Tithing - Is it for Today? - 119 Ministries
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- What is tithing according to the Bible? Why did God command his people to tithe in the Torah? Can the tithing laws even apply to believers today? Tithing, is it for today?
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Sadly, I’m struggling to find a pastor who actually preaches the entire word of God. 😭
Without a doubt, hands down, the most biblical teaching on tithing ive ever heard. This was deeply insightful. Shalom
Excellent teaching as always! Thank you.
Funny how most xtian churches will like to say the commandments are done away with but will pick and choose
Idk how many times I've heard "God wants us to tithe" but they'll literally go and have unclean animals for food right after
Patients is key of wisdom, I almost stop the video half way because it was against what I see but thank God I watched till the end, a new understanding for me indeed❤️
They are wrong by d way. Very wrong. They lied
Great teaching 119
Thank you
Perfect ending thoughts to a good out line of the word on giving. God Bless you !
This teaching is contrary you the other tithe video. A long time ago. Times are tuff and people and ministries need 💰 thus this new teaching. We don't have to tithe to any ministry. Its not torah. But we should be helping the poor the orphans and widows- That is Abba ❤ - to help them.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Amen!
@@Yah1stp2nd36 P2nd, could you please make your comment more understandable? Thank you.
@@statutesofthelord from what I understand, the church uses this scripture to speak of the tithe. However this scripture was a rebuke for the Levite priests I believe. Look at verse 14. It did not profit them to keep Elohims ordinances. Then verse 18. This who thought in this way were wicked....... This verse in Malachi is not a reference to us about tithing. Tithing was done unto the Levite in the Temple in Jerusalem. People gave thier first fruits of thier crops and from thier herds as tithing as Yahweh commanded.... The example of New Testament Church giving was in Acts. Each gave to the brethren as it was needed.... Today, the church institution, does not see them importance of the Old Testament. But they do however use it to thier advantage you point out the tithe. However, out of context. Today we are to give free will offerings, and to those brothers and sisters in need. Remember James 1:27 says pure religion is this, to visit the orphans and widows in thier affliction, and keep oneself unspotted in the world... The New Testament believers in Jerusalem were under heavy persecution and Paul was collecting what believers in Yahshua could give to those who were being afflicted.......
Give as you are lead to give. However do know that it is a heart issue not a law issue. Or a must to do in the church institution of today.. the New Testament Church met in homes and met each other's needs. They were not giving to keep up a building and pay one man too lead..... Gifts were given to each member of the body by the Holy Spirit to minister to one another as a group effort. True togetherness..... The single man leader came out of the reformation from the catholic idea of a pope. This excludes and quenches the work of the Holy Spirit thru the body to each other, as was our New Testament example....... I know I went on here. Oops. I hope this helped a little. It's been a long day!
@@Yah1stp2nd36 Thank you J1 for clarifying your previous post. The Bible is to be taken as a whole. What is commonly called the "Old Testament" today is what Jesus called the "Scriptures". All of the Scriptures are holy, and to be kept, except for what was expressly prophesied to end at the cross, as written in Daniel 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
No animal sacrifice can possibly add to the value of Jesus' infinitely valued blood, so they, and oblations, are done away with.
Everything else, however, including tithing (Statute), 7th day Sabbath (Commandment) etc. are still in force today, whether most Christians choose to keep them or not.
Absolutely agree. Great teaching.
The message that i concluded from this video (and please do correct me if needed) is that though OT Tithing is no longer possible to do perfectly as they did in ancient Israel, The NT still highly emphasizes the importance of supporting ministries and helping them out monetarily ( though a strict 10% 'tithe' is no longer a requirement)
Giving is encouraged not commanded
Because it is not technically a biblical tithe it should not be called as such. A Freewill Offering is more appropriate as YHWH do delight in a cheerful giver.
Nothing in the New Testament is from YHWH.
@@John-th6kd Many people believe Yeshua (Jesus) is YHWH.
@@John-th6kd The new covenant is the old carried over through Yahshua. Everything taught was from the old covenant.
@@John-th6kd 😳??
Amen!
Very clear. Thank you!
Thank you.
I would like to say to 119 ministries that I admire and honor your organization and this is one more reason: Many organizations disable comments on their videos but you all do not which means you face the many criticisms leveled by sometimes inane viewers. I don't wear a hat but if I did it would be off to you sirs. :)
I do not watch any video with disabled comment section. I like to read the comments.
I too admire that they do not disable to comments. I just was watching some videos on the Hebrew roots refuted and their accusations were aimed at 1:19 ministries. They disabled their comments… Not willing to hear both sides of the argument!
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I pray 119 ministries would create a Bible school. 🎉
Tithing is 10% of your crops only. It’s not financial, its food related. It’s only meant for Levites and the Greek text of the NT absolutely doesn’t support the Ecclesiastical Conspiracy of Church hierarchy positions. Deacon, minister, and Bishop are horribly mistranslated terminologies in English and other languages I have seen. This has been done specifically to create a Church hierarchy that doesn’t exist according to the NT!
So should we tithe? Absolutely not. Should we give to members of our congregations in Christ who are having hard times? Yes.
Should we have oratory style preachers? Not always. There’s usefulness for it, but the congregation of Christ is supposed to be meeting less formally and having conversations and Bible studies together. It’s not supposed to be an hour and a half service, it’s supposed to be how you spend all Sabbath day as a family in Christ. The New Testament Congregation has no need of a hierarchy, period, we have Jesus
Excellently said!!
There is no condemnation to those who are in Jesus. Give as the Spirit leads you.
Romans 8:1-2
Wrong. God is the same yesterday, today and forever so what made u feel that giving according to ur spirit is tithing? That is offering. Tithe must be the exact amount and this 119 ministries lied. They are wrong. Tithing is very less stressful, not as these thieves explain.
Very thoughtful and thorough discussion about this worthy topic. Thank you for your insight and wisdom.
..a good and fair teaching not outside the same magnification of the law our savior delivered.
By the many comments, it is not hard to recognize how close money is to the hearts of even the most adamant believers.
Stay the course, your on the right track.
Well said.
Shabbat Shalom! Todah 🙏🏼
It is being a cheerful giver to those who need it. The thing is this in today's world. In rural poverty-stricken places, that don't have clean water or in a famine, what money can they use to tithe when they don't have it? Most American-style teaching of tithe is based on Greed and not on giving, and sharing resources. Acts 2 they shared everything money isn't attached to this. A person that needs a place to live, food, clothing, job isn't money but resources. Be a giver. Give out of Love, Want and Need. Some people give out of wealth and to get a tax exemption this is how the rich get richer. The real problem is many people get into a Ministry position to get money. A Minister can have a regular job.
That was very well done! This should be taught throughout the internet, this should be taught in every Church! The reason being is, look at all of The Minister's how they live, not only overweight, but obese, living in big fancy houses and fancy cars and SUVs and their children are all fat! Living high on the hog and eating everything in sight just because they are in Ministry! Shame on them! But there are a select few that have the spirit of Christ in sacrificial Ministry that do not ask for tithes and offerings from the people who work hard to give them a better life just for preaching something they got for free! This country will be severely judged for that, IE the prosperity movement! The Paula White, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, on and on we go! Every Church in America makes people feel embarrassed if they do not tithe to their well-being. They should not go to those churches, they should be in Ministry to serve not to be served like Jesus did. If you're going to start a Ministry you shouldn't depend on other people to finance you , as you freely receive so freely give! I'm just saying, I love your ministry and I will give one day, and it may shock you, but I believe in what you're teaching is true. I'm struggling, just like everybody else, but I give to the poor in Jerusalem through the international Fellowship of Christians and Jews, mainly the Holocaust Survivors and the food pantry for those who need food. I know the Lord is coming soon, just look at Daniel 9:25 the peace treaties that are being signed by President Donald Trump, are going to be confirmed by the Antichrist who comes in on a peace platform after the Rapture of the church! That's why we need to be obedient to the scripture, to pray for the Peace of Israel, because it hastens the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ Yeshua hamashiach. As in the days of Noah and the days of lot he will call us out of tribulation like it says in Revelation 3:10 keep you from the hour of Temptation that is coming on the face of the Earth. I pray for the perfect will of God to be accomplished that he may Reign and Rule Supreme and show us his word and work his will and this Earth. Baruch Haba b'shem Adonai. Your friend Daniel a follower of your ministry, soon-to-be a contributor as I am waiting for my inheritance, and in the United States the stimulus check. God bless and keep up the good work.
This is great insight into the topic of tithing. But there is one thing I feel you neglected to address: The fact that, in the Body of the Messiah, *all* are priests.
Correct the truth
We are all supposed to be priests, but not everyone devotes their time to acting as priests. I think its still a choice to be a Levite in the sense they are talking about.
And the fact that the doctrine of "ordination" was forced in to the bible. The bible does not mandate special offices or a church hierarchy in the new testament
Please share your Scripture reference that says, “...in the Body of Messiah, all are priests.” I can’t seem to find any Scripture that says that. What I did find is that the members of the Body of Christ are Ambassadors. (ll Corinthians 5:20). I don’t see how we could be “priests” seeing how the word means “mediator,” there is only one of those, Jesus Christ (l Timothy 2:5).
Do you work full time preaching the Gospel? Are you a missionary in Africa or another remote place? Do you teach the Gospel to others as a full time job?
Very helpful. Thank you
Thank you!
Giving as I've seen it for today is simply to further the cause of the gospel at home and to the furthest ends of the earth.This seems perfectly possible to do if we are focused in our giving and led by a vision for God's kingdom.
One thing we do know is that the need is great, especially outside of the west, where many many millions of Christians don't have the basics in material needs and spiritual ones either.
There are different types of tithe we are told,we'll yes and there is many different ways of giving in a practical sense too,--time, gifts and talents.
Over the years I've raised much support for causes giving aid just by working with different Christian charities,sending aid and bibles and resources through appeals etc.
We can make a bigger difference than we think in this world as we ask the Lord to open the doors for us.This will give much joy and enthusiasm I've found in reaching a lost world
None of this is happening in those tithe churches and people aren't forced to give to a church building
The difference is that support must come from giving and these ministers aren't owed a tithe
What about the tent makers, carpenters, etc. tithe was only agricultural goods-
Also, the disciples worked while ministering and encouraged it.
That is correct.... Tithe was for the Levites. It was first harvest, fruits from what I understand.... now we I've to each other, Acts being the New Testiment standard. So that none in the body would do without. Not to preserve a building or pay a mortgage. House churches was the standard. And everyone ministered to each other as the spirit led with gifts given. The one man, pastor, was put in place after the pope. The leaders were elders, bishops, and deacons, that devoted the selves to prayer and scripture. It's a far cry now from what the church body was intended to be...
Jesus said, sell everything and give alms. There's no more tithing. Give it all.
So own nothing ?
@@kylerichard2040 I would say, own it as you if you would have rented it. Paul said be married as you were still single. Hope it does make sense?
I love how you put it
That never was a mandatefor anyone but that one particular case
@@michaelmerck7576 no, its for everyone. Luke 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
Interestingly, I have a non-tithing testimony..I know that sounds crazy, but it's true. I am still blessed every day ever since I stopped tithing! One day when I read Hebrews...I realized that Jesus became the last perfect Tithe for me on the cross..I broke down crying...
The Best of Heaven's first fruits was spent for me...How could I then dare to revive a law which God had ended through the death of His only Son? He ended tithing for a reason.
My heart's cry is that Christians will see the truth for what it is, and stop tithing! ...and start giving. 2nd Corinthians 9 explains it beautifully. Don't let preachers and teachers complicate it for you. May The Holy Spirit give you understanding and wisdom in this matter...God Bless You!
I believe you're right but it's such a paradigm way of thinking among so many Christians I'm not sure they could ever shake it. I believe the one thing God wants to get across though is ones should reach out not be being compelled to but to seek more freedom...as an example is one open to the possibility that God might ask one to give away their whole paycheck, maybe not all the time....but hey...just to see what you would do. Could one believe for God to bring it in to them. Just talked to one lady today who visited Jamaica. Quite a story. She gave 1OO dollars to a poor family there. Didn't have the money hardly to do it...then walked down the street and the wind blew 500 dollars to her feet. True story. Doesn't mean God would ask someone to stretch out their faith this way BUT maybe an odd time he would just to see what you're trusting. I agree with you though. Give in the way that 2 Cor 9 explains.
you’re delusional if you think you’re blessed and into idolatry
HalleluYah
Absolutely true, tithing done away with. Yahshuah is our High Priest forever. Animal sacrifice and tithing are no more. Re: The feast days we do our level best. No human Levite Priest necessary to keep feasts.
@@767Robsonfine but a preacher can't demand it
Give offerings, not tithes. Tithes are meant for Levitical priests.
Desire Of All Nations
Wasn’t the Messiah’s point that they paid tithes (of mint, anise & cummin)?
@Desire Of All Nations Your motive seems to be to promote your own viewpoint rather than seek the truth. Yeshua did not hold up a coin nor demand anything. The words He said when "being shown the coin" was that Caesar's image was on the coin therefore give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
@Desire Of All Nations When a person clearly misrepresents a biblical passage one does not have to presume they have an axe to grind. It becomes obvious. Your description of the events described in that verse as well as your editing of what Yeshua actually said were clearly designed to deceive. own it.
@Desire Of All Nations in Mathew 23 the same verse you twist to support the tithe. Jesus himself calls tithing a matter of the LAW. Also did Jesus and the apostles tithe? Did Paul ever teach tithing to the gentile church who knew nothing of the law?
Fair teaching. What say you about what should happen should the temple and Levitical priesthood be reestablished, do we then abandoned non-levite ministers or do we pay a double tithe?
While the overall principle of taking care of YHWH people is good, to apply the tithe to those leading American style ministries that do nothing to actually lead people in their walk before him. The catholic style service is more of attending a show or concert and paying for it is like paying for the show. When a group of 100 or more gather and only 8 to 10 determine the entire service, songs and words spoken, while the rest sit and watch the show...this is harmful and not instructed by YHWH. The levites took care of either the temple/tabernacle or the sacrifices offered by the people according to Torah. That happens not in man made temples today. To give to such ministries is to enable such to continue. What Paul urged was giving for tjr needs of the saints and providing for those that took care of such matters. This teaching far misses the point and one further aids others in continuing the churchianty heresy. While I financially support 119 ministries among others I would never again give to some one calling themselves a Pastor because he serves at some man made temple and altar. This teaching is unfortunate 😕
I agreee. Very disapointed in 119 ministries....
My main point of agreement with you is that many modern day ministries are worthless and deserve no support. We would in fact be funding disinformation to do so. I would also like to say that there really is no biblical support for any church offices or hierarchy in the new testament so therefore there is no priesthood other than individual believers to tithe to, but if a church hires a man to perform certain services they ought to pay them and if someone partakes of that fellowship they ought also to partake of it's responsibilities.
Shabbat Shalom Family!
Yes I have been blessed by your teaching 🙏🏽❤🙏🏽🤗🤗🤗
Thanks for this teaching. A question came to my mind though, the temple was standing for about 40 years after the crucifixion so were Jewish believers in Jerusalem expected to pay tithes to the temple and also support the work led by James?
If you go by what Yah lays on your heart, you'll probably be giving more that you expect. You can give by buying bibles, sending bibles and messianic books to prisoners. You can visit prisoners and writing to them. You can donate to so many organizations.
Why not just talk about freewill offerings instead of all the technicalities. We can’t tithe but if we are right in our motives then through our offerings we can still take care of those who are less fortunate.
Agreed but no they want that noose of a mandatory payment
There are no Messianic Congregations near me. The closest one is 91 miles away. 2 months ago I reached out to 9 people in my area who were listed on Fellowship Finder and I got no response.
119ministries is now towing the line of these same proponents of tithes. However, Paul talked about giving as a spiritual interpretation of tithing, makes sense, scripturally, logically but not technically and literally as you have explained. Paul was careful not to make it a compulsory exercise (because of these constraints) but in the line of not muzzling ones ox you can do your giving as your heart pleases and not grudgingly 2 corinthians 9:7-9. I didn't see this teaching emphasise this aspect of Paul's teaching. It shows biase and change in your previous teaching about tithing. I think giving should be when pleasing, able and willing so that it will be giving cheerfully until we are able to have all the tithing structures.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
@@statutesofthelord go read Malachi 1 ans see who he is talking to. THE PRIESTS!!
The context of the whole chapter was that they were trying to Offer up lame, battered, beat up animals as a sacrifice to God, and God said wont do this to your own Governor yet you to try to offer it to me, that is what Malachi 3 is talking about when he said who will rob God, because they were trying to offer up sacrifices they didn't and shouldn't been offering vs unblemish animals that they should have been offering
@@SAAN27 The whole Old Testament speaks of Jesus. Throwing out one teaching in it, means throwing out one teaching about Jesus.
You are replacing the agricultural tithe for an unbiblical money tithe I'm sorry pal but you are just going to have enough faith in the people giving because no one is required to pay a money tithe
@michaelmerck7576 I don't do money tithing, but I give without grudging to the poor and the widows, Deuteronomy 14:28-29 & Deuteronomy 26:12 .
However, you can exchange your tithes for money with the conditions mentioned in... Deuteronomy 14:24-26 (festival tithes). Remember, also that Abraham tithe the spoil of a war to Melchizedek, and this was not agricultural tithe. Although he still eventually gave the rest of the 90%, we are not clear why the bible had to break it down that way by reporting the 10% and the 90% instead of saying 100%. However, Melchizedek blessed him after he had given the tithe, which was significant.
However, all these tithes had specific location, the temple (where the ark of the covenant resided and where YHWH dwelt, where YHWH has put His name) to be taken them and to specific people, the Levites, a tribe of the sons of Israel. Are these still applicable today? They were not applicable since 70AD. So, Paul encouraged Christ-like living people to give generously, with grudging so that the ministry can grow. Tithe may not be seen as only agricultural tithe, bro.
Thank you for this teaching! What we do with our money is directly correlated to where our heart is, and many are looking for ways not to give to the work of the Father for some selfish reason. I'm always surprised to see 'believers' who think they have no obligation to care for those that they glean from, as they would never expect a restaurant or retail store to give them what they need physically for free, but expect ministers to do that very thing. Another great job! Shalom!
Israel was a Theocracy when the tithe was established. The tithes from the tribes paid the Levites (who had no inheritance) and worked in the temple and performed in a sence, some modern day government work. The Levites in turn , who in-turn used their income to pay the Priests (son's of Aaron). During Jesus's time on earth era, only the Jewish remnant was recognized and it was difficult times trying to run the temple while also paying taxes to Caesar. What I was hoping to hear from this teaching was how the Theocracy practices play a role in many modern day governments in the form of taxes. I do fully support paying money to ministries that preach. Just as the gentile converts in N.T., they need to abstain from a few things, but they would continue to go to the synagogues and be taught more and more of God's word. If those synagogues were not there, it would be difficult to learn all Gods' ways. Look at all the confusion we have today from the error of dispensationalism.
I call my giving a tithe, because that is the purpose of my giving to the ministries that feed me, and I want to be practiced up when it comes time me to flow to Jerusalem...🙏
@@shabbatsongs4801 :
Your entry into Jerusalem will be by faith and salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ which includes Acts 2:38 and Ephesians 2:8-9. Additionally, bringing forth fruits ( good works ) meet for repentance.
Paul is speaking of apostles. The apostles traveled and were unable to keep a permanent job.
"While it is true that Priests serving in the Tabernacle, and later the Temple, could eat of the grain and meat that was brought as sacrifices, it must be noted that this was only for the Priests who were serving at the time the sacrifice was made.
How often were Priests serving in such capacity? According to 1 Chronicles 23-24, the Priests were divided up into 24 divisions (Luke 1:8), with each division serving about two weeks out of each year. For the rest of the year, they had to provide for their own needs and that of their families.
But how did they do this?
While the Levites were not given an inheritance of land in the same way the other Tribes of Israel were, they still were given portions of land around various cities scattered throughout Israel. Numbers 35 indicates that they were given 48 cities throughout Israel, and the land around each city extending out from the city walls for 2000 cubits, which is about two-thirds of a mile (cf. also Joshua 20-21). They were to use this land for their herds and crops.
If the Levitical priests were only serving in the Tabernacle (or Temple) two weeks out of the year, and the rest of the year, dwelled in one of the 48 cities scattered around Israel, what did they do in those cities? The same thing everybody else does in cities. They lived, worked, and raised their families.
One thing they were not doing was living off the tithes of other people. After all, the tithes were only brought to Jerusalem during the times of sacrifices and feasts.
So the Levites worked in their cities and the surrounding fields. Some were farmers, while others were herdsman. A few were potters, or weavers. Every trade that could be found in any other city would also be found in a Levitical city.
These were not cities filled with a bunch of Bible teachers who sat around reading the Bible and waiting for people to bring them food and meat. No, they worked and earned their living like any other person in the country, except when they had to leave their job for two weeks out of every year to serve in Jerusalem. At those times, they ate from the sacrifices and offerings that people brought."
There should be no such thing as a fully supported Levite nor "elder/pastor". A fully supported missionary who is traveling around unable to find work can and should be supported just like the apostles who were missionaries NOT stationary elders of an assembly of people, and even though missionaries had a right to receive support, Paul labored himself to pay for all expenses (except one occasion).
Forgive that in the past I have wasted so much , I believe, by giving to crying tv evangelicalism to keep their royal lifestyle. God teaches me in ways only he can. I am thankful he keeps score of how gifts are being used.
God does not need our money.” I desire mercy not sacrifice “ he says.
I am blessed to help local ministry for the hungry and homeless. No more jet fuel support from me.
I enjoy giving before paying any bills.
It’s a leap of faith for me to not have extra income but to give anyway, first. Jesus is always faithful with food, clothes and shelter. I lack for nothing. All praise and glory to Jesus Christ!
George, God commands us to tithe:
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Hi George, I’m glad you are not wasting you money on tv evangelicals anymore and have started helping the needy at a local ministry. Don’t pay the other commenter any mind. He has put himself needlessly under the bondage of the Law.
There is no tithe command today. Even the Jews who God gave the tithe command to aren’t tithing right now because the temple and the priests are gone. God has set us free from the Law and placed us under His loving Grace. He isn’t dolling out curses or handing out blessings during the Age of Grace.
@@debraann8412 Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Jesus commanded us to tithe.
@@statutesofthelord No, He did not. Jesus commanded His chosen people Israel, who were under the Law, to tithe food for the Levitical priesthood. Even the Jews don’t tithe today. There is no priesthood because there is no temple with sacrificing today.
The only reason anyone should need for not tithing is Romans 6:14. Tithing was part of the Law, which we are not under today.
For those who don’t understand Romans 6:14, here are a few more verses:
Matthew 23:23; Romans 8:3 - The Law of tithing is weak (Galatians 4:9) and beggarly.
Hebrews 8:8 - The Body of Christ is not God’s covenant people.
Galatians 2:21, 3:31; l Corinthians 1:17 Christ has redeemed The Body of Christ from the Law of tithing.
Galatians 5:3; James 2:10 - Law tithing obligates the doer to “keep the whole Law.” Good luck on that. People who are tithing, keeping the Sabbath, feast days, etc are not and cannot keep all the Law, therefore they are choosing to do some Laws and neglecting others. What do you think God thinks of that? I can give you more Scriptures if you still don’t understand.
@@debraann8412 Your attempt to erase God's words falls short.
It is thought that Paul died before the temple was destroyed, so he could not have been encouraging believers to give their tithe to "pastors." He could have only been asking for offerings, as he did for the poor believers in Jerusalem. If we are going to tithe to our pastors, etc. today, then we should be giving them food for that is what the tithe was; it was never money. Money brings with it a whole lot of problems, and maybe that's why the LORD used agriculture as the tithe. A person can only eat so much and the rest has to be given away to the poor. Money was only used for the temple tax to keep it repaired.
Ohhhhh. I dident know that. Thank you
Regardless of when Paul died or the temple was destroyed, Paul never addressed “the tithe” for the Church/the Body of Christ. Since we aren’t under Law, but under Grace, we listen to Paul who tells only of Christian giving. He does so often: Romans 15:25-26; l Corinthians 9:7-14, 16:1-3; ll Corinthians 8&9; Galatians 6:6-10; Philippians 4:10-19; l Timothy 5:9-18.
@@debraann8412 I'm not sure why you are at this channel if you don't think believers are supposed to be obedient to God's instructions. It doesn't matter what Paul said to anyone about anything if he contradicts what Yeshua (Jesus) said. (Acts 3:23) Paul didn't die for anyone, and said so himself. I don't think you really believe we're not under law because every Christian I've asked still thinks it's wrong to murder. That is a part of the law.
@@OneHighwayWalker should we collect wood to build an ark? Does that apply to the church too? Giving is mentioned 170 times under the dispensation we are currently in. Tithing is mentioned 0 times.
@@elohimsaves4374 Is your name Noah?
How do you view living and energy costs?.. In most cases in ancient Israel, there were people that had their own house, and land to tend flocks or grow fruits, grain etc. and there were also poor people (called slaves) that worked for people, I'd say that is similar to someone today who works for someone/company and is an employee. In Europe it's not so common to own a house but renting a house or a flat... so my question is, is it legitimate to first deduct fixed costs from wages? And then take the 10%?
There are a lot of points that can be debated on this issue but the answer is simple. No point could be clearer in the bible than that Yeshua offered himself as our final High Priest and we became the temple of Yah. Therefore no more temple required and no more priesthood required thus no more tithe required however if you agree with a man to serve your church as a pastor or as a janitor you should pay him and church buildings need maintenance so if you attend that church you should share in those responsibilities. What's the dilemma here?
Very well presented,..more focus should have been on helping the poor, widows, and fatherless.
Those called into ministry the Father will look after, just as he did his only begotten son. The same made no pleas for tithes.
Paul endeavored to support himself as a tent maker. It's not to say he never received for his labor, but often he did not according to accounts in Acts and other epistles.
Quick question: why does Ezekiel prophecy the return of the temple, sacrifices, and priests in the temple vision, in a time when Jesus himself will be present, ruling the nations, and participating in the worship in the temple?
Then who supported the Messiah in his ministry???
Those who gave to it, money or otherwise. Biblical, systematic tithing wasn't giving, it was making payments required under Mosaic Law.
I've a genuine question.. I don't attend a church because they're all Sunday worship/easter/Christmas churches where I live. So who would I tithe to?
You don't have to "tithe" money anywhere. Give as you feel led.
Whenever I heard someone say we should not be tithing because it’s no longer a biblical expectation I always thought in the back of my mind it makes no sense to me how will the pastors get paid how are those doing gods work get paid and I still have some today who will not tithe they say we are to give offerings Which means it’s not 10% but what one can. Thank you for your explanation and study of the Scriptures I appreciate you
It makes plenty of sense to just be a cheerful giver if a money tithe was demanded then that is giving under compulsion
Most pastors work and own businesses. We should help them if needed by offerings but that's not tithing. Help all those in need.
Malachi was to the corrupt priest! And it was never money!
Not your fault but I was always told tithing was to give 10% of what you earn monetarily and I’ve never heard this, so now I’m gonna have to pray about it.
Because the church system today is not biblical. Tithing was first fruits of your produce to the levite priest...... New Testiment giving example is in Acts. They gave to one another as they had need......
Everyone is trying to justify their reasoning for receiving money For tiding
Tithes 10% paycheck is a money maker for churches. It might as well be a membership fee.
Tithe was food not money. 3 types: (1) Festival tithe (2) Levitical tithe (3) Poor tithe. If you add all those it become to about 23%.
Should a pastor's salary be more than the music teachers? I ask because I cannot find a church today where the pastor's salary isn't more than other church workers. Are all these fake pastors?
Wow, you have discussed it clearly and honestly. The teachings of most Christian churches in our present time about Tithing are rebuked by your explanations.
It can be observed that most Christian churches perennially quote Malachi 3:6-12 to prove and remind their members to TITHE the way the Israelites did. But I can name names of "Christian" churches whose founders are now very rich, who own a lot of wealth while their members continue to be the poorest people of their societies, it is very disappointing and discouraging!
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This was made during a time of hard ship. 119 used to teach the opposite_now there teaching to pay tithes to ministries( like 119) . Pasters need to work . Like Paul says. If you don't work you don't eat. Paul was the preacher then.
God made tithing a commandment of the law when he gave the law to Israel. But we see tithing was voluntary even before the law was given. "....And he (Abraham) gave him(Melchizedek king of Salem) a tithe of all. (Gen 14: 18-20) what we give God must come generously from our hearts. What we have still belongs to him. Nothing did we bring and nothing could we take to the grave. God's generosity is clear by the sacrifice he made for us on the cross of calvery. What could he offer him fire his sacrifice?
What Abraham did was voluntary, but the Torah tithes are for Levites for they do not have land inheritance plus their works are for the temple. So the whole house of Israel support them. Plus the poor.
May I add that Abraham gave Melchizedek a tenth of the spoil of war not his personal tithe and during that time Abraham was rich and well off. It’s in the Torah. Shalom.
True to be generous in giving to the body who might be in need...... Abraham gave from the spoils of the battle not what he had originally......
I don't know why the Torah keepers preachers wear a hat when they preach? In my country, inside the classroom or in a pulpit we are not allowed to wear a hat. Here in the USA, when I went to college, my one classmate wore a hat and my teacher asked him to take off his hat. Now, I observe that the preachers, especially the Torah/ Hebrew Roots guest speakers wear a hat. I was thought that it is disrespectful to wear a hat when you speak in front of the pulpit.
Wow! What a flip flop from your prior teaching on tithing. Which I have referenced to many people after I had tested it. That teaching will remain my gold standard. I am amazed that you are using Paul to justify this change. Yet another person/ministry using Paul to their own ends. You should read The Pauline Paradox by 119 Ministries (that’s called irony). No Levite’s, no Priests, no Temple so no tithing. Anyone can gift their money to whoever but it is a gift not a required tithe. There are far to many people and ministries running around out there all claiming to be called by God personally. You must pray and study for yourself. Yesterday I would have held this ministry up as one you could trust.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Let's obey God.
@@statutesofthelord Malachi 1:13.....And you say, 'What a burden!' and you sniff at it contemptuously," says the LORD Almighty. "When you bring injured, lame or diseased animals and offer them as sacrifices, should I accept them from your hands?" says the LORD.
@Nothing New Under The Sun Hebrews 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
I think you misunderstand this teaching. I do not feel compelled to tithe or feel them saying that the biblical tithe is mandatory. They encourage it but in principle not commandment. Overall, I think this is good. Is it perfect? Perhaps no. But are you perfect? Do you hold all the answers? Have you ever been blessed by this ministry? Instead of writing negative things, pray for them. Shalom.
@@markbeal5834 Mark, you do not feel compelled to follow the direct words of the Bible. Salvation is not by feeling, but by believing and doing.
Slightly problematic interpretation, when it's extrapolated that in essence we are to do a bit of replacement theology - Levites are now substituted by pastors.
I understand what you're saying. But there is no "spiritual principle" in Torah to tithe to modern day ministers/church/synagogue/temple. (Yashua took the place of the levitical priesthood, Hebrews7)
However, with there still being the poor/the widowed/ the less fortunate. We absolutely are to help them.
Shalom brother.
Thank you for your studies, so we cannot tithe to the Levitical priesthood, nor in Jerusalem you say that we can apply the tithing principle to the true ministry, correct? So then the principle of how we are to apply it is only your opinion because we cannot apply it as it was stated. If one applies the principle of helping, giving loving and growing in the grace of Jesus Christ, not putting a number on what you earn as a physical nation would have done, but the principle of becoming like God, isn’t that what Christ was fulfilling as he expanded the understanding of not only tithing or giving, whether it has to do with adultery or other sins of life Commandments I might say? Don’t get me wrong ministers have their place law has its place but both not used properly constrains people from becoming like God
I agree on tithing!
And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
Mark 12:41-44 KJV
Did you notice she cast in all her living. Because of the way the scribes and Pharisees taught. They guilt tripped people for money. Like the Catholics do.
@@deanndubois3738 true. also Yahshua did not say that it was wrong to tithe. it's sad many use tithing as a way to get rich.
treasury was not a tithe
@@georgebalderrama32 Yashua did say:
Matthew 5:17-20 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Tithes ended when Yashua gave up the ghost on the tree rendering the veil of the Temple into two. Hence, no more priestly sacrificial system.
@@soundjudgement3586 tithing has been around since genesis... he didn't come to abolish anything but to fulfill. he is the same yesterday and today
We MUST tithe. That is our part. We tithe to honor God and we tithe to keep our blessings overflowing.
Like the loaves and fishes miracle, our tithes show God that we believe in Him, and are wanting to help Him win souls. He doesn't need our portion for Him to do anything - God doesn't need anything from us to exist. Rather, our tithes show our respect for our God. It is our part of the teamwork.
We belong to God's family, and we pitch in to help the family. We do our part. Our ten peecent is a small portion compared to God's 90 percent. We give because we love God, and are honored to be in His family.
Why would we NOT show our love for the God who created us, loves us so much that He gave the life of His own Son as ransom for our souls, so we could once again join the fold and commune with the One who showers us with His blessings?
Tithe to your God. Do your part to show He's number one in your hearts, lives, and souls. He promises no regrets. He promises eternal life, and eternal love.
What you said is opinion and not Biblical. There is no way you can give God your money. Which Church do you pick to give your money to? How do you know what they will do with it? Which organization will spend it on good and not salaries for the executives? You are not instructed to give a tithe unless you are a blinded Jew under the Law trying to work your way to heaven.
“We tithe to keep our blessings overflowing.” Physical blessings are no longer granted. The Law tithe taught physical blessings to Israel from God. Without a covenant with God, a priesthood, a promise, or a temple, tithing for a profit will not work.
Christ revealed to Paul His spiritual blessings for the Church/the Body of Christ. These blessings are in heavenly places in Christ, not on Earth (Ephesians 1:3). We live under God’s Grace today free from obedience for blessings and disobedience for curses.
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We give because we are blessed not the other way round. You do not bribe God to bless you.
Whatever...all I know is that God blesses me with more the more often I give...and I don't do it out of a sense of duty, that would never work...foolishness.
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That's great. Tithing money to a church does nothing for God - for it's material. Albeit, if you know for sure the tithes are being used to bless others that's honoring God. Under the LAW, God ordained tithes for two purposes: 1) Obedience and Sweet Smelling Savor sacrifice, and, 2) Support for the Levites and Priest. Money was not tithed.
Thank you for this, I've been conflicted about it, so many different perspectives about it! I am a single old lady, living only on what Social Security provides, always "robbing Peter to pay Paul." I want to be obedient, thought 10% of my income was the definition of obedience, yet sometimes that means I can't pay 1 of my utilities that month. Did you say we are not "commanded" to give a certain amount, like the full 10%? Thank you again, God bless you!
No, Deb, you are not commanded to give a monetary 10% of your income away. Being under God’s Grace today frees you from the bondage of the Law. Why would a loving God demand you to pay some religious organization money that you need to survive on? He wouldn’t!
Churches and other religious organizations try to get your 10% by making you feel guilty. God’s Grace teaches us to give generously, but not grudgingly or with feelings of necessity. We are to give as we feel led to by our hearts.
We’re to give to those things that will help accomplish God’s will. It doesn’t have to be money! You can give of your time or something material you no longer need (clothes, furniture, etc), but wish to share with others. Who receives your “gifts,” what and how much you give, is a matter for your own heart to decide (ll Corinthians 9:6-10).
If you have been giving more than you had to give then Jesus likens you to the old woman who gave more than she had to give. Sister, if your Church isn’t helping you when you’re having a hard time with your bills and you’re giving them 10% then what do you think GOD expected your Church to do with that 10%?
The true definition of the word we translate Church from is better translated “Congregation” in English. The Church isn’t supposed to be a building and a hierarchy, it’s supposed to be a community that looks out for each other. When a member of a Church can’t afford their bills that’s exactly when the congregation is supposed to help.
It’s not about a 10% tithe, and the 10% tithe was never financial in the Bible, it was specifically agricultural. The Jews also had money in those days and the tithe was still only agricultural and not financial. Financial giving was always a matter of you personal ability and your heart even in the OT.
This video literally claims it’s not teaching a replacement theology and yet the only thing they are doing is teaching a replacement theology. Jesus never accepted a tithe. That’s a fact. We are his priesthood, not Levi’s.
If we really love a ministry, we will give to it if we are able. But it’s better to love our congregation first and foremost so that we are seeing GOD’s will done in our local community.
GOD Bless! ❤️
The tithe was for the levity priest in the temple. The tithe was the first fruits of your crop. ... the New Testiment example is in Acts. Each gave to the other as they had need......Yahshua said, Jesus, that if you give a drink of water to the least of these that you do it unto me. It's what's in your heart to minister to people. Not 10 percent. Not to support a building or a single pastor. The New Testiment Church example was home churches.... so if the Father shows you a need then provide that need. Even if it is a glass of water. .... remember give from the heart what you can do, not what others say you must do.... Peace....
Tithes (Tenth) in *Judaism* - Genesis 28:22; Leviticus 27:30-34; Numbers 18:21-32; Deuteronomy 14:22-29; Deuteronomy 26:12-15; Malachi 3:1-10; Luke 11:42; Luke 18:12; Matthew 23:23.
Alms (Charitable Deeds) in *Christianity* - Matthew 6:1-4; Luke 11:41; Acts 10:1-4; Acts 24:17; 1 Corinthians 16:1-3; 2 Corinthians 9; Philippians 4:15-16.
Hebrews 7:11 Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law [Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18; Matthew 5:43; Matthew 22:36-40]), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek [Psalm 110:4], and not be called according to the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law [Matthew 5:44; John 13:34].
2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read [Deuteronomy 6:5; Matthew 5:43; Leviticus 19:18], a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord [Matthew 5:44; John 13:34], the veil is taken away.
Matthew 13:9 ”He who has ears to hear, let him hear!”
You didn't cite 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 where the Apostle Paul refers to the support given to the Levites and Priests and says that "Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel." %10 is the minimum for Christian giving or it cannot be "even so"
All Old Covenant scriptures'. Even Luke and Matthew as well if you understand before the Cross things for the Jews were still under the Old Covenant reality.
@@767Robson Matthew and Luke are not old covenant scriptures in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh). You're being dishonest.
@@pierreferguson5257 The New Covenant or New agreement started after Jesus was raised from the dead. Paul talked about the better covenant established on better promises after the curtain of the temple was torn from top to bottom as Jesus died on the cross. I am not being dishonest.
@@767Robson Judaism does not recognize the New Testament, originally written in koine Greek, as being part of the Old Testament originally written in Hebrew. And I believe that the New Testament started at the shed blood, and one time death of the Lord Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God - Matthew 26:28; Mark 14:24; Luke 22:20; 1 Corinthians 11:25; Hebrews 12:24.
The only difference of then and now we do not earn from the land, jobs , professions . Industries , businesses etc. all have different incomes so 10%100 is different for each, and $ $$. $$$ $$$$+++ how would they tithe. ? Millionaires would have to pay 10% of their million earnings to a minister.? To a church denomination? Very tricky,! Not similar law should be applied. today.
119 used to have honor “support us if you think we are doing good things and want to help us keep doing it”
Now they’ve give into their Christian roots...you should give me your money or you aren’t righteous!
There is no considerations for any Christian to give 10 percent of their income to a church and there is no basis for 10 percent to be a starting point in givng.surely you see how ridiculous that is
Question on deuteronomy 14:26. Basically says if you are too far to bring in the tithes then turn it into money go to the place that the Lord chooses and spend it on whatever you desire including strong drink and share it with your family and the levite with you . The word desire also translates lust or covet. Explain the leniency here from Yahweh allowing someone the become intoxicated and to lust or covet after something. Doesn't make sense .
That is to eat your tithe in front of YHWH, for it is a Feast. You share it also with others who has no capacity to bring anything in front of YAH. Not all tithes are for Levites, but also for less fortunate. But never for pastors or preachers of man made priests that we have in Christianity.
Kurtis, strong drink was poured over the altar sacrifices, it wasn't used for getting drunk.
Sweet and thank you for the explanations. YHWH is so faithful, merciful and just. I knew He wouldn't cause a stumbling block for his people. I struggled with alcohol most of my life and I know the God who delivered me last year through Descipleship wouldn't tempt me or set a snare. We know what happens to idolaters, sorcerers, drunkards and those practice witchcraft. Those the Son has set free are free indeed. Hallelujah! Thank you JESUS! This lesson on tithing did not really elaborate and came across as a party that included the consumption of alcohol. No worries. I am excited about celebrating the feast this year outside of the realms of Jerusalem to honor YHWH. Thanks 119 ministries
I guess the beer was more like a basting or marinade LOL
Why do you assume the person will or is encouraged to become intoxicated on the strong drink?
A lot of ministers get rich off of the masses who are often poor. I don't believe the Bible says to give to ministers or any house of worship! 32:21
Wrong: It's the 10th of the 10 that passes under the rod. If 9 passed under the rod, then no tithe because no "tenth." If 19 passed under the rod, then only 1 was tithed. The tithe IS NOT a 10th; it is not 10%.
Wrong: They "COULD" use the money to buy all the produce, beer, etc. is not what the text says. It says they SHALL buy all those things back. It's not optional. Money is not a tithe. Money is only for the trip.
Wrong: The passage where every tithe is given to the Levites who worked in the tent of meeting, is not speaking about Israel's tithe (the people's tithe) but instead, the Levite's tithe to the priests in Aaron's line which they were commanded to do. THEY (Aaron's line) are who worked in the tent of meeting. This tithe is what is referenced in Malachi 3.
Wrong: Deut 14 is not "an additional tithe." It is the same tithe all people of Israel took to the Temple and shared with everyone, including the Levites, the poor, their families, their servants, etc. The only time a tithe was different was every 3rd year. This third year tithe is not an additional tithe. It is the same tithe but the third year. Even then, the same poor, non farmers, widows, etc were still to have access to this 3rd year tithe.
Wrong: There are not 3 tithes. There is only 1. And it's not 10% for the people. It is the 10th tenth, taken to Jerusalem and shared with all or left in hometown every 3rd year ALSO to be shared with poor, etc.
WE CANNOT TITHE TODAY! We have no levites/temple. We are not in the land. We are certainly NOT allowed to give money. It's not that the laws of Torah are invalid; it's that those today claiming we are to substitute them for the levites, are false teachers! We also cannot keep the feast days and ALL THOSE WHO ARE TEACHING US TO DO SO, ARE FALSE TEACHERS! Yehovah destroyed Jeraboam for this kind of presumption.
Yehovah vomited Israel from the land and the feast days 'CEASED' according to Hosea 9 & 2. Israel did not keep feasts in foreign lands. Lamentations confirms. Even Ezra confirms. Too many people these days are totally ignoring Yehovah and making up their own commands. And NO, YOU"RE WRONG! There is no gift of the Holy Spirit that comes with a salary over and above any other gift of the Holy Spirit. Man doesn't get to decide if his gift is leveraged for monetary gain while his neighbor's gift is not. Those who consider themselves "ministers" have no command to not work, not inherit land, pretend to be levites, etc. He is not allowed to put himself in the position only levites had. This is a twisting and distortion of the text. If anyone uses their gifts and is in need, we are to be helpful. But it's false teaching to use Paul's words to contradict Yehovah.
Did Yehovah bless a guy in ministry and expect compensation for it? Yet those same guys turn around and leverage that same information to others and you think that's biblical? How about the need for 1 day in lecture and 6 days in lab (so to speak) in order to actually have a transformation in one's life. Sabbath is not just the 7th day. It is the only day treated and talked about differently in the Bible. That day is the day set aside for learning from the true Teacher. The other 6 days are to be the days we put into practice what was learned on that one day. No one gets to ignore these principles and set themselves up as any different. This is ludicrous! WE ARE ALL CALLED INTO THE MINISTRY! Therefore, should we all have a PayPal account to receive "the living" we are supposedly biblically entitled to?
You show yourself false!
The spiritual principle of the law NEVER contradicts the law.
1 Corinthians 9, who treaded the grain? IOW, who worked and deserved wages? Who planted the vineyard? Who worked and deserved the wine? Who took care of and fed the flock? Who worked and deserved the milk? Those statements are all about WORKING for what they were to receive. They are not about leveraging your own personal spiritual gift as your occupation and expecting others to compensate you over and above anyone else who uses their gift. If you have an actual job as Paul did and need additional assistance, the least you can do is show your hard work and good faith in not distorting Yah's word.
The whole problem here is that you guys are blind to much of your own false teaching because you are attempting to justify what is not of Yah. He decided who the Levites were and you are not a Levite with no inheritance anymore than any other guy. You are also ignoring Yah's own words that FEASTS CEASE. Even a lunar calendar decision is for a priest only; another command you are totally ignoring. A great deal of blood on your hands here.
There is no biblical mandate for a wage money tithe
The church is in heaven Heb 12:23 How are we going to "Tithe" to a Spiritual Church Body that was taken up in Matthew 27:52-53? This is the Church Jesus is building which the gates of the grave could not contain. This is the fellowship of the Mystery Paul taught the Gentiles. Eph 3:8-9. Even if money had ever been tithed (and it wasn't) there is no way anyone can tithe to the church today.
It would be Faithfully said that" a free will offer from the heart is what is the Lord delights in this is tithing
""Also to the faithful Minister's of the Lord
The worker is worth his hire again a offering of the heart ""
And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
Nehemiah 10:37 KJV
Now this is for the those who have abundance to offer if they are in a position not nessiary who have a heart to sow into the the Holy citys and and to see and take pleasure with all the people it's beauty and people abound
If you would strain your self by no means do so for he loves you and his yoke is easy
""He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.""
Matthew 10:41 KJV
Also
""But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him""
Hebrews 11:6 KJV
And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
Hebrews 7:8 KJV
Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
Isaiah 55:1 KJV
I mean what does the Holy spirit put into your heart
It's for the needs of the Lord
and needs of his people and the habitation there of
Their are those who know In their hearts who have been blessed with increase
And know that is is from the Lord this increase came
"""And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins."""
1 Peter 4:8 KJV
My understanding of tithes is only the produce of the land, the only time money was used is if you lived to far away. I have spoken to many and mostly they use Malakhi 3:6-12. I remind those that use this verse Malakhi 1:1 is to Israel. what I have seen written is absolutely horrific, telling other christians that they will go to hell, or will not be raptured if they don't tithe. If scripture says tithes are the fruit of the land, then fruit of the and it is. If tithing laws are for today then the tithes will still be the fruit of the land.
So ignore YHWH, and listen to Paul?
Paul taught Torah, there was not Brit until much later
“Listening to Paul” is following Jesus’ instructions for us today. Jesus only had a message for His chosen people, Israel when He walked the Earth (Matthew 10:5-6). He told the Canaanite woman, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24).
He made Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles. Jesus Christ instructs us to follow Paul, “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ” (l Corinthians 1:11). Paul is our pattern (l Timothy 1:16).
@@aviyahchaverim9388 Saying Paul taught Torah is absurd. Take a pencil going verse by verse underlining Law teaching in Romans through Philemon and let me know how many you find. Paul didn’t teach “Torah.” He taught “the mystery, the unsearchable riches of Christ” revealed to him by Lord Jesus Christ.
Salvation by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ’s work of the Cross, His death, burial, and resurrection (l Corinthians 15:1-4). The beginning of the Body of Christ and others. The “mystery” was a secret kept hid in God from the beginning of the world (Romans 16:25; Ephesians 3:1-9). None of this language even sounds like Torah.
@@debraann8412 1 Peter 2:21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps,
@@statutesofthelord “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea though we HAVE KNOWN Christ after the flesh, YET WE NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW HIM NO MORE” (ll Corinthians 5:16).
In order to follow Christ today, we must follow the Risen, Ascended Christ in Glory, according to the revelation of the mystery given to Apostle Paul.
This teaching arrives at problematic conclusions based on subjective, questionable, assumptions. Here are just a few points as to why.
1. Biblical systematic tithing under Mosaic Law wasn't giving, it was a compulsory payment, only it could not be received as money. That's a tax, not a free-will gift. Tithes and offerings are two very different things.
2. You are assuming that money was not available so that is the reason for the "barter system" of tithing. That's not an accurate assumption. The mention of money in the bible occurs well before the era of Mosaic law, all the way back to Genesis where the shekel is mentioned several times. It would appear that laborers did, in fact, earn monetary wages according to Haggai 1:6 “…You earn wages, only to put them in a purse with holes in it.” In Deuteronomy, 14:22-27 tithe items were sold as a convenience for travel but not received after arrival (for the feast) as the money was used to purchase food and drink items to be consumed. This indicates A) money existed and was readily available B) tithes were not received as money.
3. You are disregarding the fact that Levites were not allowed to be landowners. The Levitical tithe provided for items of the land from within the Holy Land to be shared, not money.
4. There was never a tithe received on earned monetary wages, New Testament, or Old.
5. Nowhere in the bible is tithing described as a principle. The real "principle" of systematic tithing was taxation. Systematic tithing was facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances under Mosaic Law. These are all obsolete in the New Covenant.
6. Levitical tithes supported the government as well as the ceremonial system of atonement. Both are now obsolete in the Christian faith.
7. There was never a biblical tithe collected for the purpose of evangelism or for Pastors.
8. Have you ever considered that money cannot be Holy to the Lord, and as such could not be received as a biblical tithe item? Money is man-made, items of the land are God-made.
9. 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 says nothing about money and if it were a direct reference to the tithe(s) under Mosaic Law, Paul wouldn't have the right to refuse it as he does in verse 15.
10. There's no biblical evidence Jacob ever tithed but his promise could have been carried out through his lineage under Mosaic Law. Systematic tithing required by God could not have existed at Jacob's time or prior, since Jacob's offer to tithe was a contingent offer to tithe only IF God provided as Jacob requested.
11. In Matthew 23:23-24 Many note that Jesus is recognizing tithing in this passage but ignore that what the Pharisees were tithing had nothing to do with money. Again, the items “mint, dill, and cumin” are spices - produce items. It’s also noteworthy that Jesus is indicting the Pharisees, not praising them in the true context of this passage. The fact that they were practicing tithing according to the law doesn’t excuse their negligence of spiritual “more important” matters - “justice, mercy, and faithfulness.” Tithing was a compulsory statute. Spiritual decisions indicate the condition of the heart as a result of free will choice. It is this that Jesus is emphasizing in this passage.
The teaching in this video fails to prove that any tithe is biblically required today and fails in classifying tithing as any sort of "principle" unless one considers taxation to be a principle. One can choose to give a tenth of the income, time, possessions, etc... but that's an offering, not a biblical tithe. There's nothing that links biblical tithes to earned wages. There is also no minimum or limit to what or how much we can give, but we are free to give and not bound to pay. Blessings in your giving.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
@@statutesofthelord When it comes to tithing perhaps no scripture is more referenced than Malachi 3:8-12 which states: 8 “Will a mere mortal rob God? Yet you rob me. “But you ask, ‘How are we robbing you?’ “In tithes and offerings. 9 You are under a curse-your whole nation-because you are robbing me. 10 Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. 11 I will prevent pests from devouring your crops, and the vines in your fields will not drop their fruit before it is ripe,” says the Lord Almighty. 12 “Then all the nations will call you blessed, for yours will be a delightful land,” says the Lord Almighty.
At face value this passage would seem to imply that God is playing the role of either a mob boss or a slot machine - or both if one translates this passage in terms of monetary value. Who but a ruthless dictator would curse another for not carrying out this alleged indictment to regularly pay a percentage of your income - or else! Does this idea really pass the “love test”? Isn’t choice a primary component of love? And if tithing is compulsory as stated under Mosaic law, how can it really be considered a choice or any sort of act of faith? Another possible translation of this passage would suggest this is not the case. Some of the reasons why could be as follows:
1. In the first few verses of the book of Malachi the “children of Israel” are addressed in a generic sense. However, since the Levitical Priests were technically also “children of Israel” it’s possible that the passage could have been directed to them exclusively. In Malachi 1:6 the indictments are clearly and specifically directed towards the Priests. From that point forward there is no clear change in the direction of focus for whom those indictments are made. The “Priests” are again specifically address in Malachi 2:1. As such, it would seem that the indictment to “bring the whole tithe into the storehouse” was actually directed towards the priests. We see no clear change in focus from the Priests for the indictment of “robbing God” so it is reasonable to assume that the indictment could very well have been directed toward the Priests, rather than the entire nation of Israel.
2. There are reasons to believe that the Levitical Priesthood were the only ones actually allowed in the temple storehouse. Non-Jews were permitted the 'ezrat ha-nashim (the forecourt of the Temple); most Jews were permitted in the 'azarah (inner courtyard); only the priests and Levites were permitted in the heychal (inner court or sanctum); and only the High Priest could enter the kodesh kodashim (Holy of Holies). If only a select people were allowed in the storehouse, then Malachi 3:10 cannot be universally applied. It was the Levites, not all of Israel, who were to “bring up the tenth of the tithes to the house of our God, to the chambers of the storehouse” (Nehemiah 10:38). Therefore, it would seem that Malachi 3:10 was not directed at any others besides the Priests at the time which would further weaken the argument that tithing is to be universally applied today.
3. Since the biblical tithe had nothing to do with paying money from monetary earnings there is no biblical reason to think that if anyone gives money to the church they will be monetarily blessed in return or otherwise cursed.
4. It’s possible that what was happening at the time was that the Priests weren’t bringing the proper quantity and/or quality of tithe items (produce and livestock) to the temple as directed, perhaps keeping the best elements of their portion of the tithe for themselves. God could be indicting the Priests, through the prophet Malachi, to properly execute their part of the system, which included bringing proper sacrifices (quality livestock) and food (produce) for the other temple Priests and temple workers. Only the Priests were allowed to conduct sacrifices.
5. The “floodgates of heaven” has nothing to do with monetary blessing. We first find this same term used by God back in Genesis 7:11 where the windows of heaven were open and rain contributed to the flood, as the fountains of the deep were broken open. In Genesis 8:2 it says the windows of heaven were stopped and the rain from heaven was restrained. Isaiah 24:18 also mentions the windows from on high; this phrase is consistently used for rainwater. In Genesis, it was a judgment. In Malachi 3 it was to be a blessing - rain on their crops. The nation lived in large part by their agriculture (Husbandry) and depended upon the rain. God's blessing had to do with the provision of water; no rain and they couldn’t produce adequate crops or sustain livestock. Perhaps this passage is emphasizing that if the Priests mishandled their tithes, which was part of the blessing in the Mosaic covenant, a curse would be put on them. The ground would not yield food because God would not allow it to rain which of course would be a detriment to all of Israel.
6. There is no specific indictment for the entire nation of Israel to tithe as only the products of farmers and herdsmen were accepted as tithes. There is no mention of merchants, tradesmen, carpenters etc… ever bartering their crafts or services as a form of tithing or giving a tenth of their earned monetary wages. Therefore, it is unreasonable to conclude that Malachi 3:8-12 applies to the entire nation of Israel. As such, it’s also unreasonable to conclude that it applies to us today either.
7. The book of Malachi was written at the time of Mosaic law in Israel. These laws supported a system of atonement that is now obsolete in the Christian faith as we (Christians) are now under grace, provided by the blood of Jesus.
@@markb7067 Your attempt to do away with God's laws is poorly done, Mark.
@@statutesofthelord I'm happy to discuss it if you would like to bring forward any scriptural evidence. Also, systematic tithing was facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances, not the moral law. Those ordinances are long since obsolete.
@@markb7067 I gave you the holy words of God, but you rejected them. Would you like to read them again?
For the very first time I hear you distorting the truth. Where do you get the Spirit of tithing. Ministers are Not Levites neither do they play their role. This is not what you taught the last time about tithing.
Since Yeshua is our High Priest in Heaven he does not need tithes. Since temple is gone and no levites. He also said that if you visit the sick, the prisoners, feed the hungry, the widows, the fatherless and poor. We do it for him. Same in the OT Yahweh is not happy with the offerings for the Israelites are doing sins, by not bringing justice, mercy and feeding the poor, helping the widow and fatherless. Obedience is better than the offerings and sacrifices.YHWH said we should Work 6 days a Week and rest on the 7th day. So that we would have something to help the needy. EVERYONE should work not for ourselves only but think of those who needs help.
Even Yeshua and his disciples during his ministry also work, the do fishing, and they pay taxes. Yeshua was healing and feeding the hungry and never asked for tithes. YHWH said He will supply all your needs. Work, work and rest. Do charity yourselves and you will see the miracle, follow Yeshua's footsteps. He even asked the rich man to sell all his riches, give to the poor and follow him. Unless you walk by faith not by sight, you will never see the miracle provisions of YHWH, do not depend on the people. God will move anyone He wants to if He think your Ministries needs it. You give first to the needy and it will come back to you a hundredfolds. That is Law of Giving. That would be amazing.
Remember the Tithes to YHWH is Holy, Levites cannot eat them just anywhere, nor just anyone can eat them, it means death. So never ask for tithes, you are not authorized to receive them. Levites do not have land to till, they are not to work on the land. Work 6 days a week and rest. Shalom!
The Word of YHWH was given freely by the Annoited Prophets, at No costs.
Jeremiah 23
30 “Therefore,” declares the Lord, “I am against(A) the prophets(B) who steal from one another words supposedly from me. 31 Yes,” declares the Lord, “I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, ‘The Lord declares.’(C) 32 Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,(D)” declares the Lord. “They tell them and lead my people astray(E) with their reckless lies,(F) yet I did not send(G) or appoint them. They do not benefit(H) these people in the least,” declares the Lord.
False Prophecy
33 “When these people, or a prophet or a priest, ask you, ‘What is the message(I) from the Lord?’ say to them, ‘What message? I will forsake(J) you, declares the Lord.’ 34 If a prophet or a priest or anyone else claims, ‘This is a message(K) from the Lord,’ I will punish(L) them and their household. 35 This is what each of you keeps saying to your friends and other Israelites: ‘What is the Lord’s answer?’(M) or ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 36 But you must not mention ‘a message from the Lord’ again, because each one’s word becomes their own message. So you distort(N) the words of the living God,(O) the Lord Almighty, our God. 37 This is what you keep saying to a prophet: ‘What is the Lord’s answer to you?’ or ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 38 Although you claim, ‘This is a message from the Lord,’ this is what the Lord says: You used the words, ‘This is a message from the Lord,’ even though I told you that you must not claim, ‘This is a message from the Lord.’ 39 Therefore, I will surely forget you and cast(P) you out of my presence along with the city I gave to you and your ancestors. 40 I will bring on you everlasting disgrace(Q)-everlasting shame that will not be forgotten.”
Tithing is food, not money. For the tithe was taken from the crops and the cattle, and for good reasons: so that the needy and the greedy could eat, but not spend the tithe to fulfill their sins. Give a poor man money, he'll go buy heroin. Give a pastor money, he'll go buy a Tesla. But if you give a poor man and a pastor tithes of stalks of barley grain for food and lambs for meat, it will take a lot of work to process them for food. It will even take work to try and sell those stalks of grain and lambs to convert them into money, to buy drugs and expensive cars. The tithe limits the needy's and greedy's capacity to sin. Therefore, if you want to give your tithe to the poor, and to your pastors and teachers, give them food for the tithe so that they may eat, but not buy drugs, houses, or cars. Just give your tithe in food, as the Scripture teaches.
If you are not from the Levitical priesthood tribe of Israel, you have no business receiving tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, period! And if you don't know what this means, don't be a teacher of the law of God.
God ordained the tribe of Levi, to receive tithes and offerings from the children of Israel, according to the law. [ Hebrews 7:5 ] God did not ordained gentile pastors, to receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles.
A pastor can eat and drink of the gospel, for doing the work of the Lord. In whatever house you entered, abide there, eating and drinking such things as they give for the labourer is worthy of his hire. [ Luke 10:7 ] Eating and drinking has nothing to do with tithes and offerings of the law.
You shall not muzzle the ox that treaded out the corn. And, the labourer is worthy of his reward. [ 1 Timothy 5:18 ] Eating and drinking has nothing to do with tithes and offerings of the law.
The church is supposed to withstand the pastor to the face, and say to him, you cannot receive tithes and offerings from Jews or gentiles, because you are not from the Levitical priesthood tribe of Israel, and if the pastor neglects to hear the church, Jesus said, let him be unto you as a heathen man, and a publican [ Matthew 18:17 ]
The church congregation is not responsible for making payments for a temple made with hands, and neither is God, because God doesn't dwell in temples made with hands [ Acts 7:48-49 ] & [ Acts 17:24 ]
And before you start building temples made with hands, make sure you have enough money to build, because Jesus said, this man began to build, and was not able to finish. [ Luke 14:28-30 ]
Freely you have received, freely give. [ Matthew 10:8 ]
It is more blessed to give than to receive. [ Acts 20:35 ]
For God loves a cheerful giver. [ 2 Corinthians 9:7 ]
A man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject; knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself. [ Titus 3:10-11 ] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and vain. [ Titus 3:9 ]
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. [ 1 Corinthians 14:37-38 ]
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, cursed is everyone that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. [ Galatians 3:10-12 ]
I see no problem with supporting a preacher. The problem is a salary with benefits & a retirement plan. Pastors can work & make a living & still preach the word of God. The preachers of today do not know the gospel & many of them get rich from the collections & the money is not going to the proper places.*Members need to know tithing Scriptures are taken out of context & are not biblical. Voluntary giving is okay. Giving from the heart is to supply the needy, hungry, sick, & homeless, with needs & religion has failed. The church budget must be revealed & explained to the members by a monthly newsletter.
Amen. I agree we give and support, however, that is problematic in todays culture, hence prosperity preachers... I would not say tithing....there is no Levitical temple, I would say offerings, which could be more or less than10%, what is in your heart, guided by the Holy Spirit. 2 Corinthians 9 from verse 5 onwards ….context yes Now we give not out of obligation, but with a good heart. Refer Malachi 3. I have been blessed regardless of tithing, giving more or at times less....what is in my heart, as I said through the Holy Spirit, And you can give to anyone in need...not necessarily a church, and mix it up...
I’m sorry, brother, I’m going to have to disagree with Paul. Adding or taking away from the Torah is a sin. Paul might’ve meant well, but shepherds have lead the flock astray.
Unless you are a blinded Jew (Romans 11:25b), Torah instructions aren’t to you. Everything for the Church/the Body of Christ is found in Paul’s epistles. Jesus Christ instructs the Church to follow Paul as he follows Christ because Paul is the Apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13).
Jesus Christ selected Saul of Tarsus to become Paul, Apostle to the Gentiles (Acts 9:25). Jesus Christ revealed through Paul “the mystery” of Salvation through Jesus’ work of the Cross, His death, burial, and resurrection. Those that believe are placed by the Holy Spirit into the “new creature” the Body of Christ. These members of Christ’s Body are not under Law, but under God’s Grace (Romans 6:14). All doctrine and instruction for this Body is found in Romans through Philemon.
You are wrong. There is only 1 type of tithe. U lack understanding. Tithing is only 1 since the beginning. Ur teaching is not correct and u are in risk of Gehenna (lake of fire)
This is a contradiction i see 119Ministries has now conformed to the wrong teaching of giving the world has influenced everyone i see very disappointed
Yes i agree. I'm very disappointed 😞to.
Very disappointing indeed! I see that some subtle changes are taking place inside that organization..so sad.
If you need to get technical, the lineage of Levi is still in existence. For example, Rabbi Jonathan Cahn, of the tribe of Levi, teaches a flock of Christians, at New Hope Ministries, in Wayne, New Jersey.
So, if you must have a Levi in order to tithe, tithe to his church. Rabbi Cahn ministers to his flock, as well as global Christians, by his sermons, his books of prophesy, and his teachings through media - all serve the LORD. And he is just one example.
Khan is a sorcerer
I agree. Kahn is a sorcerer.
ibaru sister
Why’s that?
A sorcerer?
Then choose another Levi. He is one example. Never let one person or group dictate where your soul will eventually rest.
Its a shame that you guys teach this. What about all these false teacher who use tithing to finance their false gospel that is leading so many to hell. Those leaders who error and the people who follow them will perished. Should I give to a first day minister who is teaching rebellion against Gods law and commandments?
Tithing was under the Mosaic covenant, which was temporary. It wasn't for gentiles at that time and today isn't for the church of Jew and Gentile, one new man, but grace giving is for us and is actually a gift of the spirit.
We, Gentiles, are grafted in...
@@shabbatsongs4801 We are grafted in by faith. Israel is the root, with the lineage, the Fathers, the Covenants, the Commonwealth by physical blessing, even by Messiah himself; we are the unnatural branches. We don't really belong and only by association with Israel. Israel is Israel, we are the church. Because we are grafted into God's tree doesn't mean the Law of Moses, which is what tithing is a part of, is for us. The tithe is not mentioned under the New Covenant, but giving. In the Tribulation, the natural branches will be grafted onto God's tree once more through faith in their Messiah and Gentiles once again far from God (with a small exception who show themselves to be righteous by what they do for the Jews).
@@stylus2253 - sorry, but I disagree. Scripture says it plainly:
Thus said יהוה of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all languages of the nations take hold, yes, they shall take hold of the edge of the garment of a man, a Yehuḏi, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that Elohim is with you.”
Zeḵaryah (Zechariah) 8:23 TS2009
@@shabbatsongs4801 That is a description of Israel in the Millennial Reign of Christ, a one thousand year period after the Tribulation. Other verses paralleling it are: Zephaniah 3:20 and Deuteronomy 28:13. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
@@shabbatsongs4801 Are you a blinded Jew under the bondage of the Law? That’s the only people this Law pertains to. The last instructions from our Lord were revealed to Paul the Apostle of the Gentiles. Paul says we aren’t under the Law, we are under Grace. None of our doctrine comes from the Old Testament, the 4 Gospels, or Hebrews through Revelation. Paul teaches us Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the Mysteries (Romans 16:25). You are using doctrine from the wrong section of the Bible. Paul has the last authority with Christ’s resurrection power and the Body of Christ.
Thank you