Massive respect to the ‘moderate’ Tim Pool for bringing on a right-winger and a leftist, and then only agreeing with the right-winger. True enlightened centrist.
@@sheldonshell-hi9nj The reason its any deal (not sure if its a big one, but its worth noting) is because Pool markets himself as a moderate/left-leaning person and gets quite upset if people say he is right wing at all. His grift is that he is trying to convince people that he's a "reasonable leftist" but he only ever agrees with the right.
Asks questions, talks over the answers, makes strawmen arguments and constant red herrings. For a debate bro, it’s hard to take this projecting charlatan seriously. Not to mention his flip flopping in attempts to not pin him down politically. We can all see Tim is a conservative, he looks more pathetic when attempting to hide it.
@@sprig5173 exactly, every time he was getting pinned he changed the subject (red herring). I can see why it would be futile for emma to call him out on the many red herrings he made because his goal was to trigger her by talking over her or just saying nuh uh. He wasn’t about to have his mind changed. There was one point when emma and freaky racist guy were talking about Ukraine, (even agreeing with one another) and Tim just chimes in like a child, do you guys want to go to war with China? Like, what a childish, irrelevant statement. Dude wants us to take him seriously?
My favorite thing about Pool is how he reads an article for the first time on the air then quickly clicks out of it when he realizes it's not parroting his propaganda. He's done that on several occasions and it's hilarious everytime he does it.
He's maybe the least threatening or imposing dude I've seen. Watching him try and steamroll over Emma while she is just calm and occasionally bemused was glorious. Also, why was it so hard for that other dude to say if he'd done illegal drugs or not? Is he afraid his audience would be angry at him or something?
i mean that guy is blatantly racist. he doesnt care if white people do drugs. but if a black person does, he's horny for them to be rounded up and brutalized in rikers
Y'know, when in doubt, saying "no" to having done illegal drugs is always the best bet because then if your family sees the clip you don't have to explain it to them, and then if your fans call you uncool you can say "I was lying bc my mom watches". WTF is 'maybe' as an answer?
@@ICTS22 i mean the first video I clicked on of theirs isn’t eq’d at all, sams voice has way too much low end in it so yes, I believe her when she says they don’t eq or have the stuff to eq
We are talking about a man who wears a winter hat all year round to avoid facing the fact he's bald. How are you going to talk "truth" with a guy that can't face his own reality
As a dude who genetics has 100% promised me will go bald: I cannot fathom thinking the beanie looks better. It just says "I'm immature and can't deal with reality". Then he said Prohibition made crime go down and confirmed yes, that's an accurate assessment of himself.
Has he ever addressed the beanie? I mean, we're all curious what kind of dome he's hiding. You'd think someone would've brought it up on one of his shows by now, lol.
Tim proving every aspect of his show is a hoax: Tim Pool: "If there is a story, and the story is exaggerated or manipulated in an effort to sway people to believe one faction over another, you are engaging in a hoax." Emma: "That's what you guys do? You post about small events of extreme crime." Tim: "We don't do that, you don't watch the show." Tim later: "Homeless people are pushing people in front of Subways! 25 people out of millions do it and we need to talk about it across the country!"
I know, it’s unfortunate Hasan isn’t aware of who AJW is. I know I’m going to sound like debate lord, but sometimes debates online aren’t useless, I’ve seen him in debate circles and he straight up dog whistles intentionally or unintentionally all the time. He likes to act professional and scientific but he’s a complete weirdo. He literally defended the 90s Broken Window policing strategy in NYC, which is why he was so excited when Emma brought up crime. I don’t know him enough to say he is a Nazi, but a lot of stuff he says is Nazi adjacent and he agreed to debate on the same side as a race realist so I mean there’s pretty fucked up. I think he cherry picked a bunch of data because he doesn’t think poverty causes crime because he probably believes the classic “fatherlessness and culture” bs. He basically thinks Black Americans are more prone to crime. Which is completely ridiculous if you have any academic knowledge whatsoever. But if he admitted poverty and crime were correlated his whole belief system would unravel. I mean his name is “Actual” justice warrior he perpetually stuck in gamergate era politics
As soon as the guy said poverty doesn't cause crime, I knew he would say "it's because black people are just criminals". Right wingers have been using the same talking points for eons.
You lefties are such hypocrites. "Stop making fun of what people choose to wear", don't you know the left loves to go after their own if they say something that doesn't fit the left's narrative?
@@SuperKiao aww it's really cute how you're at least trying to branch out and try more things instead of commenting "lmao cope" under every Hasan video. Good job! Still very low effort and childish but it must've been particularly difficult for you, so good job nonetheless, troll!
@@TheNewton*Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.* Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.* *In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.* *Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.* *Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._ *Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers. *Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.* What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole. Literally what you're doing
They like to think of themselves as super special snowflakes who are outside the binary of right and left wing and are the only wise ones who can see that both parties have flaws. Then they vote for every single right winger they see and fantasize about killing leftists. You know, a "centrist" position, not a right wing one. Ugh. The cringe is bad even secondhand.
Emma: "I think your show appeals to aggrieved neo-nazis, because there is evidence of them engaging with your content" Tim: *sobbing* " you are slandering me" *sobbing* "your Jew boss told you what to say" *sobbing* " you made my music sound bad" *sobbing* Really, what other response should we expect.
His whole game is to bully his guests until they get upset, then claim his "information" triggered them 😂 Dude lost his pissing match against someone who pees sitting down, lol
@@beastlydevil777 bro Tim's ancestors are making cave paintings as hard as they can to warn him from all the way back in the Seditious Era (that's the one where Republicans were formed) "Beware the competent woman- she bears receipts"
it's very funny to watch these supposedly intelligent & strong-willed men struggle to not lean so far into misogyny and arrogance while emma takes their ideas apart, but they're clearly cracking at the seams over her ability to talk through and above their nonsense.
Tim: "We have ads." Also Tim: "We actually don't have ads, it's all memberships." Also Tim: "We have 4 advertisers- actually no, we have no ads, we got rid of them all."
Also Tim.. “I am rich I live in a bunker designed for children.” “You’re poor, you’re a grifter.” “Everyone but me is a groomer… hey kids, isn’t my skate park cool and did you see I paid the guy from offspring to be here? That’s cool, right?”
@@SuperKiao Are you slow? The fact he was able to get huge ads and sponsors was Emma's point, and Tim was trying to hide the fact he still has advertisers and sponsors by bringing up the few instances where he doesn't use them. In other words: he's getting plenty of outside money and lying about it.
It's only one factor in the big picture along with dysfunctional family life, abuse, personality disorders, social class and culture - look into that a bit more because it's important that you understand the topic.
@@potatopotatow humans aren't inherently good, opportunity, lax enforcement, family structure, ect. As proven repeatedly, we have periods of poverty and wealth inequality throughout history that don't correlate to crime
Emma Vigeland didn't just beat Tim Pool in this debate, she beat that random frat boy too. She beat them while they both interrupted her and would not let her finish sentences. Emma destroyed them both.
@@vitaminwater9662took dude less than 10 min of video getting posted to show up and try to rebut the entire comments section thread by thread... ...with his dead lock of an argument, "lol cope"
@austinbrittain3923 are you sad seeing the America you love get stolen from you? How does it feel that all of us queers and trans people are slowly taking control over your home? Does it make you feel uncomfortable, seeing your 'American' values be destroyed? Because we revel in it. We love seeing all of you seethe and pretend that you are relevant. We cant wait to see the last of you fade, and will be celebrating each and every single one of your pathetic little temper tantrums while we get there.
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@@Uncanny_Mountain We also need social democracy in the workplace too! A lot of this is by corporate demand to cut healthcare under the guise of religious morality, which has now extended as far as everyone on the left always guessed it would be-they’re not stopping at banning abortion, they want voting rights revoked for minorities, they want to ban and revoke the rights of the LGBTQ community, they want books banned, and they clearly want healthcare and all workers rights revoked. As far as they push the conversation to the right by stawmanning everything-we all need to push it completely back to the other side and not just fight for our rights by doing something like another mass strike, but we need to finally CODIFY them like Trump did by changing everyone in office to an R we need to change them all back to D’s.
@@Uncanny_Mountain this is putting the cart before the horse. no matter what system you try to put in place it will be systematically destroyed by the capitalist ruling class. your basically rocking up to a feudal kingdom and saying the people should elect the king
The guy who talking about how poverty doesn't lead to crime is so, so funny. Poverty preceding crime is not only basic logic, but is categorically supported by every data set across the globe. It's like the main thing that everything comes back to in any criminology course. He's not even cherry picking, he's straight up just totally, categorically wrong in every possible facet and then skipping over that and arguing semantics with her
Mad respect for anyone who watches Tim pool debate from beginning to end. I’ve watched clips from his “debates” and his five head winning strategy seems to be “if I shout a lot of nonsense very quickly. I’ll confuse the hell out of the person I’m arguing against and win” Edit: for the Incels saying “cope” Please learn some self-awareness
Pool and Shabibo are living proof that if you talk fast enough and throw in random racist buzzwords/statistics the conservatives will throw money at you and believe everything you say
Having seen extended Tim Pool interactions only recently: I find it hilarious he literally tries to Jedi Mind Trick his way in these heated discussions; often declaring "You don't believe that!" Or "False argument!" and just moving on because he doesn't want to defend his positions.
He uses the mega common low IQ conservative move of telling his opponent "what you people believe" Right wingers are so very massively off on any and every topic left wing related it's a constant laugh riot... thanks to Matt Walsh for instance, it's 'common knowledge' that no one on the left knows what a woman is. 😂😂😂😂😂
Emma Vigeland is 29, has a bachelors degree, graduated cum laude with honors in Government & Law. Tim dropped out of school at 14 and is now 37, having done nothing but been a reactionary since 2011. Oofie ouchie my beanie horts
@austinbrittain3923 hope you have fun with your non-degree having surgeon then lmao. Im sure every scientist is wrong globally and its not that you listen exclusively to morons on the internet.
@@maskedentrepreneur22egrees don’t necessarily mean you’re smart, but finishing high school sure helps your ability to think critically, do math and tell good information from bad. But Tim would have had to start high school to finish it. Lucky he has his grift or he’d be in trouble.
I've already said this in the Serfs' comments and Rational National's about him coping to "playing low quality audio" while making fun of his band. Some of my favorite albums have spotty to absolute dogshit production. Over distorted guitars, bass that drowns out the band, vocals clipping the mic, instruments that sound like they're scraped against washboards, and with equipment that is so lo-fi, you'd think they recorded it in one guy's garage (and many times, they did). And those are some of my favorite records. The quality of the audio isn't the issue, Tim.
So true. For example I'm a big JF fan boy and this one vid for some reason I just can't get enough of despite the quality being azz lol. ruclips.net/video/59W1oFds1GI/видео.html&ab_channel=Isauria
even if he bought the best mixing and mastering the industry could provide, it will never make such uninspired and unoriginal songwriting entertaining.
I love the part where Emma says "isn't that what you do?" And Tim starts stammering "wha..wha..what are you talking about?" I think its at about 16:12. So funny. How does anyone take him seriously?
The reason Tim wants people to come to his show, and refuses skype, etc is because he wants to atrip his guests feom being able to fact checkk in real time. Cuz if people are able to call out his bullshit, with citations. Its over for him.
Serious kudos to her to going on the show and absolutely CRUSHING it. She's hitting them hard with facts and their only response is "prove it". On top of that no one is fact checking so again it's all in bad faith and she is still balling 😂
I still think she should have pushed in a little more with the other guy. He was conflating statistics and talking points in a hurry, and passively admitting to a couple her points.
@@mons3020he also had Tim running interference trying to shift the conversation constantly whenever he made an unhinged take it's hard to pin someone down when you have two people talking over you.
@@mons3020 the whole point was to overwhelm her, like trying to get her to list issues on the spot when he's jumping from one unproven claim to the next The Gish gallop /ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/ is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality.
Holy fuck, I didn't think tim would be dumb enough to take her up on her offer on the majority report, but Emma really rolled him as a result. Her casual confidence is going to make tim have a hard time cliping it in the future.
"When you say poverty leads to crime, what are tou basing that on?" -this is how to announce that you are knowingly and pathetically arguing in bad faith lol holy shit
I'm gonna need a round of applause from everyone on Emma's patience and persistence in that environment, please. And her abilities to *masterfully* hone in on what needs to be said in each passing moment, as well as using her judgement on the fly to decide what needs to be refuted on the spot, what's a trap that won't lead her (or anyone else who isn't a weird, pointdexter, right wing troll) anywhere, and how she's able to weave these impressive empirical arguments, ALL WHILE not getting thrown off dealing with two of these people at once, each EMPLOYING DIFFERENT TACTICS than the other? I mean come on, folks. I didn't need to say anything, because Emma clearly _beyond speaks for herself_ through word and action. So all I'm going to say is fan-f#%king-tastic work, Emma, and thank you for doing it.
i don't listen to/watch many debates so idk how they're normally argued but he just sounds so unprofessional almost like a child😭i mean i understand maybe getting a little emotional but his tone at times just sounds like a literal kid
@@starry.octolingg582 He usually gets away with his debating tactics because he usually doesn't have guests on that are anywhere near as competent as Emma. She really got under his skin, and afterwards she was able to use his emotions against him when making factual statements and calling out his various lies and debate tactics so he couldn't steer away from the point. The only thing she could of done better when he was trying to paint himself as more liberal was saying "so which politicians are you voting for that are going to achieve those goals?" That said, excellent work completely dismantling him and the other dude (who Emma basically got to say he was only in favor of Gun Control for people of Color).
This is the first time I've ever watched a video with him in it (I'm Australian), but it really is astonishing how painfully dim-witted he appears to be.
@@DietersYT... That was the worst attempt I've seen at ownership online since that time cryptobros bought that 50k$ book for 2.5m$ because they thought buying Dune would give them the whole IP
No, they are claiming Pool and Emma are children in comparison to Fitzgerald. Irrespective of your political leaning, he was the only one who could back his claims.
@@welovecheshirecats4557There is no evidence that Garcia's posts were a psy-op and of course they would say Fitzgerald won it he's a rightwinger like them and supposedly yourself.
@Radjhitoocool how do you figure they aren't different? We literally have better overall material conditions now than ever before, significantly fewer people die of poverty than ever before, statistically miniscule portion of larceny crimes involve basic necessities, ect. People aren't stealing bread because they are Aladdin, they are stealing TVs because they know they will get away with it
@@MrGgabber ppl are stealing tvs and selling them for money to buy food. There’s not enough social safety nets the cost of living is rising faster than wages. GDP look good but it’s not trickling down to the working class American most of whom live pay check to paycheck and can’t afford a 1000$ emergency expense.
@@Radjhitoocool lmao, no they aren't selling them to buy food. 🤣 I know, the answer is always "more socialism", doesn't change the fact people are not dying from starvation in this country. One is stealing to live, the other is stealing from jealousy. I know commies don't understand the difference. Makes no mention of the fact violent crime has nothing to do with poverty, when over 85% of assault and murder don't involve robbery Also that "$1000" nonsense (though it's sometimes $500, or $800) is based on surveys of people opinions, not that they couldn't get $1000 if they really had to, just that they would prefer not. It's been debunked repeatedly. Also r@pe increases with violent crime rates, so are people committing SA to feed their family?
I get that he was going for some alpha male posturing but it just looked like what it was: a guy getting more and more worked up while Emma calmly watched him work himself up into a state of incoherent lunacy. This is like a guy who can't do tic-tac-toe going up against a chessmaster.
@@morganqorishchi8181 incoherent because u didnt understand, tic tac with someone that doesnt understand what moralism is while accusing the other. damn sucks to be dumb
@@maskedentrepreneur22your logic there is very much that of a person whose brain is still forming, and not just into the finishing touches or something but like .. idk man Sometimes we wonder if people like you are bad faith af on purpose or if you're just legit cognitively limited, and imho it's a coin toss at this point
I like the implication from Tim that some dumb woman would have never thought to bring up the mass shooter, so obviously somebody told her what to say. Really revealing.
NOTHING could've hurt Tim's music more than Tim. His music is ok but it's 20 years too late, it sounds like every mainstream emo rock song from the early 2000s
First, it would appear that the uptick in violent crime levels in 2020 are roughly equivalent to what they were during the great depression in the 1930s. This bolster Emma's point about poverty and crime being related. Second, they are arguing the numbers in the 90s without the context of the time. As someone who was born in 1972 and watched the 90's unfold as an adult, I can give some perspective. The minimum wage was raised three times during the 90's and the economy grew so long without a crash they called it "the new economy". The 90's were a time of economic prosperity for everyone, not just the rich, so it bolsters Emma's point. As for the 60's and 70's with a huge spike, this was a time when integration and civil rights activity was rising and many racists were doing lynchings which contributed greatly to the violent crime rates, along with the minority militia groups that formed to protect themselves since the police weren't doing it. I suppose you could make the argument that a lynching is not financially motivated, but if you leave out that context and just point to raw crime numbers you're being misleading. By the time the 90's rolled around, you had an entire generation that grew up integrated and people became a lot more chill and less territorial. The 90's was well known for being PC, becoming accepting of gays, accepting interracial couples as normal, very liberal. The internet was born which jumpstarted a new economic revolution that regular people could get in on without being gatekept by institutional wealth, but social media didn't exist yet so our brains had not been rotted. And on top of that we got rid of lead in gas and paint. There are several; contributing factors to the violent crime rates dropping in the 90s.
Wages (and employment) did not track growth or inflation for the lower economic class. The economy grew steadily but distribution changed. Personal and national debt climbed radically and much ‘wealth’ was from new/over-valued markets or financial products. Domestic manufacturing largely went overseas.
@@Uncanny_Mountainso you’re denying that OSHA attempted vaccine mandates underneath the Biden administration? Also new New York tried to do vaccine passports. Sounds like they are bad that’s why they weren’t implemented.
It’s so embarrassing because he has this look of smugness and pride on his face, as if he’s doing really well here, while spewing out random nonsense. He just keeps talking over her and at some points even seems incredibly aggressive/violent towards her in his tone and the loudness of his voice and he’s not even making any points.
Did you notice she is fine with kids being groomed by pedophiles. And, taking porn out of schools is "censorship" you weirdos just keep killing your babies then rape them,.support men walking naked with small kids in pride parade. No wonder narcissism and Psychoticism is linked to leftism.
Probably the owner of the store and their family. If the theft continues to the point that they can't make rent anymore then everyone who works there lose their jobs which makes the community poorer. Thieves suck.
@@MarcHendry I thought it was franchised, but I just looked it up. It isn't. That still doesn't mean that theft doesn't have a negative affect. The store could still have to shut down which would cost people their jobs. It would also suck pretty bad to have multiple people rush the store that you work at looting shit. Not good. Thieves still suck.
there are many things that could be said about this debate, about Tim Pool, but the thought that just keeps coming back to me is: damn. what a strange, sad, angry little man.
You have to picture this happening in his creepy little compound where people have to come to him cause he has some kind of paranoid agoraphobia, I guess? I hope Emma went with a security person or she might have ended up like that cat he held hostage.
@@fatmonkey4716 unlike the substance of any tim pool argument, of course... which has told grown adults with fully formed brains for years and years now that dude has no actual arguments 😂
As someone cognizant of the world we live in, I think she did good. Too bad Tim’s audience don’t live in the same reality as the rest of us, every correct point will go over their heads. Also wth was that yes man doing there? Where they only there to make Tim look good? Honestly, a very weird debate
To be fair, towards the end of the conversation they have (when they dive into the Ukraine issue), the co-host begins to push back and disagree with Tim Pool on certain things. Not that it means much in the grand scheme of things.
@@emmy8526when Lando Canadian (aka Lance from de Serfs) attended a very special episode of Timmy Hottubs' Fash Fun Club recently, there was rarely a moment where two or more Americans weren't shouting over the dude They said "let's just blanket the Canadian dude with stupid mouth noises" and it made Lance look "clueless" to Tim's audience. Then again, That's never been an audience capable of interpreting data or stimuli of any sort 😂
@@WapitalismandWreedom what do you mean “the argument” poverty causing crime is a widely studied and agreed upon fact. There’s not much of an argument against that other than, nuh uh, it’s the other way around. Pretty sure I fully understood the “counter” not argument. Dude didn’t even “argue” or have an argument. He literally said, it’s the other way around, and failed to explain how, went on to his opinion of he thinks justice should act or be. And obviously crime and poverty become cyclical, that doesn’t remove the root of the problem which is poverty causing the first “shop lift”. Do you think people are just stealing for funzies and that causes the neighbourhoods to “decay” thus causing poverty? Or that poverty causes both the decay and crime initially? Also, retell “the argument” if you know it and I don’t. It’s pretty vague to just claim my knowledge of something with out explaining where you think I went wrong. I doubt you’d like vague comments. My comment is obviously a parody on dudes “counter”. What ever attempt at evidence he provided failed and they agreed the problems of crime and poverty become a cycle with both causing both to happen simultaneously. Remember how they agreed on that and reviewed the study of lead causing crimes too? Gee, I wonder what communities suffered the most lead exposure. I think we can both agree that poverty is sort of baked into our system and some communities in the us have been deliberately neglected and kept in poverty over decades to where it’s all but impossible for the communities to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” with out the nation’s government assisting them. These communities that experience the most poverty are mostly black and brown communities that’s not because the people are black and brown it’s because of systemic and systematic racism keeping it that way. The fact that there are still different communities based on color is a result of racism. Sucks we don’t just have “communities” over the few centuries we’ve been a nation. No, we need a “China town” and “black community”. I used to always wonder why that was, I’m willing to bet it was discrimination laws that sort of forced people to form their own communities and we haven’t really broken the needless trend.
@@adrianmetzler2523Criminals don't live in a bubble where only crime happens. They live in the real world and have seen good and bad, and still chose to commit crimes against innocent people. Why do you ignore that?
@adrianmetzler2523 I'd love for you to show me a single conclusive study that shows poverty CAUSING crime. They are correlated, yes, but a causal relationship has never been established to any significant degree. youre talking out of your ass and making assumptions based on your feelings and intuition, not data.
@@fatmonkey4716 I don’t know what you mean by “criminals”. We’re talking about poverty causing “crime”. I don’t ignore that people cause crime outside of poverty ridden communities. I don’t agree with some when they call an immigrant who came here “illegally” for example a “criminal” gay word gets used loosely. So again, I don’t know what you mean by “criminals” most all of us have done some form of “law breaking”. At what point do we get labeled “criminals”? 1 time in jail? 2 times?
I could not have done this holy shit If two people just straight up lied to my face for hours, and talked down to me like this I wouldn’t be able to talk She’s incredible
@@macin6931 Not one of you kids have been able to name a specific lie from Tim or AJW. Because you are all too lazy and ideologically captured to verify any information Hasan gives you.
It's like he took debate class in hs and was really bad at it, but made it his whole identity anyways, that you can be objectively wrong and still "win" the debate, and thinking that makes you super smart. It's the most annoying personality type. Debate-pedos is such an apt assessment
Yeah, those that bask in logical fallacy and aggression toward opponents and believe that they've won, not understanding that their opposition was just being a sensible human and not sinking to their level.
It's just so cringe and hard to watch people literally be stupid and try and justify it. The goal posts move each time she contradicts their points. TBH, all of these guys who make content like this probably need their hard drives checked.
@mickeyfickey1252 yeah I did and she did not do that. They were doing that. Every time they made a point and she countered it they moved the goal past. Just say your a dick rider and move on.
@mickeyfickey1252so should 10 year olds carry a fetus to term? And in that same breath we ban anything to explain what sex is in an age appropriate way? Explain please.
They're Jesuits using Psychological warfare, mainly Gaslighting aka Grooming *Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.* Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.* *In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.* *Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.* *Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._ *Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers. *Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.* What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole. Literally what they're doing
I was a 4chan user and supported Trump because I didn't hear the left side of the story from anywhere. Now I am becoming the thing that I was scared of back in the day amk
As a Hispanic, I feel insanely overlooked and hardly recognize unless it deals with crime. Even Hassan didn't recognize Hispanics were also in the stats. Can't even be a criminal. T^T
Funny how he cites the great depression, a time when reporting crimes was not as easy and records weren't kept as well, and the recession, which mostly affected the wealthy and higher middle class in his argument that poverty "doesn't create crime" And the best he has is when crimes were hardly reported and people affected who had enough money to recover. Amazing
"So what i said was, the fact that they politized this to win a political point is the hoax, not that the child is abused." - Tim Pool "This is why i say ladies and gentlemen, i do believe its a hoax." - Tim Pool
I mean it was though in some aspects right it's true that she was raped and she was pregnant what isn't true is that she couldn't get an abortion there's laws in place that would allow her to get an abortion didn't the mom actually go to a different state so that her boyfriend (the rapist) wouldn't get in trouble
+jessiebates6858 A lot of doctors (or more properly the clinic lawyers) have turned a lot of people away because they don’t want to take the legal risk on an edge case. These abortion laws are written vaguely specifically to create that chilling effect. There also not many abortion providers in Ohio, so it may have been easier to go out of state.
+jessiebates6858 Taht isn’t a “hoax,” that is a person not having a full understanding of the law and deciding to not take chances by going to a state where the procedure is fully legal.
@@samiamrg7 no one would have turned away a 10 year old I've only seen one person actually say she shouldn't have gotten and he's straight up wrong it's true that one in another state could be closer but that's not what the story was the story was because of the law she couldn't get one which wasn't true
@@samiamrg7 that's not why she went to another state she went to another state because she cared more about her rapist boyfriend then her own daughter it wasn't her that caused the hoax it was the media that created the hoax (a malicious deception) to try to change abortion laws by saying a 10 year old couldn't get an abortion when she could
@@maskedentrepreneur22 lol how do you not get that no one sees this and says "man that guy is smart" They see this debate and at best they're saying "holy crap, who gave this moron a podcast?"
But, Hasan..using Skype or Zoom during covid was tantamount to bending the knee to the right's boogeyman of the pandemic, Emperor Anthony Palpatine Faucci!
Emma during the debate defended children going on grinder and a book showing how to give blowjobs In children’s schools. It’s not hard to look reasonable when that’s your opponent…
So you think it’s appropriate for children to have books that instruct then how to get hook ups on grinder? You need to evaluate yourself, because if you don’t think there’s a problem with that, you are the problem. And if society wasn’t on these people’s side, you would get dealt with accordingly.
@@Getout634 once upon a time, there was a war between video formats... JVC made one, I think Panasonic the other. One was called VHS, which won enormously. The other was called BETAMAX, which is hilarious in 2023 for altogether separate reasons than the Japanese could've known. One of my all time favorite Chris Rock jokes (written by Wanda Sykes): "I met a woman that doesn't give blowjobs... it's *current year* and I'm looking at this bitch like she's a goddamn BETAMAX. THEY STILL MAKE YOU?"
The sword and the old style rifle on his wall behind him does it for me. Mega-insecure beta who puts weapons on his wall like a reddit mod thinking he's a ninja because he owns a reproduction katana.
I’ve been thinking about this all day and I still can’t get my brain to understand this dude’s point that income inequality is separate and non-dependent on poverty and how either of these factors play no factor in crime. That dude was just being condescending and contradicting to Emma for the sake of it.
*Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.* Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.* *In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.* *Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.* *Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._ *Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers. *Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.* What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole. Literally what tim is doing
Did the criminals grow up in a bubble that only had crime? Or did they grow up in the real world where there is good and evil and they still chose to commit crimes on innocent people? How was someone able to manipulate you into such ignorance that these people didn't know good from bad?
@@fatmonkey4716 you sound like someone that can’t put cause and effect into use. I’m talking about how poverty leads to crime. I think crime is bad. What is the point you’re trying to make?
@@Umberto2 In America, you have lots of opportunities to get out of poverty. Investing is a good way to start, it takes a long time, but is passive, so you can invest and still work. Get another job, start a business, get skills that will increase wages. Your choices keep you poor. Poor people make poor choices that come with poor consequences.
@@fatmonkey4716 you can’t seem to understand basic sociology or social science. Poverty leads to crime. This is established fact. I don’t care about the other stuff you are saying. It doesn’t matter.
I had a look at the comments on the original video... It's a cesspool of completely backwards think from people who somehow still think Tim "Trump will beat Biden in a landslide" Pool is someone worth listening to.
@@kawasakithegeneral2367 regular working class people who listen to Tim pool say Donald Trump will win the election in a 50 state landslide? those kind of “regular” people?
@@boondocksdragon8959 I didn't think m*rd*r was allowed on YT but I've seen gobs of videos of Emma's double m*rd*r allll over the place w/zero content warnings 😂😂
Tim’s background seems like it was generated from ChatGPT. “The most male background is a guitar next to samurai sword in crossed position with shotgun - combat or double barrel. Art piece in corner - preferably abstract to derive own interpretation and convince others theirs is incorrect.”
The premise was that conservative women are more attractive. Emma not only put Little Black Beanie Boy in his place, she'd never looked better than when she did!!😊
@@ellamayothethird906she is much better looking than most libs which usually have blue/pink hair and r overweight etc. But sure there definitely more attractive🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Ironic that a cope poster like you would utter the word cope. And of course that considering that the most prominent examples for reichwing women are Blowbert and Perjury Traitor Greene it is most ironic indeed.
"The Left" in Ohio proposes an abortion ballot initiative and our conservative state representatives change the rules in an effort to circumvent said abortion initiative.
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Massive respect to the ‘moderate’ Tim Pool for bringing on a right-winger and a leftist, and then only agreeing with the right-winger. True enlightened centrist.
We’ll that’s what he agrees with just like I would think you would agree with the left why is that a big deal
@@sheldonshell-hi9nj I refuse to believe you don't realize how this sentence reads.
@@sheldonshell-hi9nj The reason its any deal (not sure if its a big one, but its worth noting) is because Pool markets himself as a moderate/left-leaning person and gets quite upset if people say he is right wing at all. His grift is that he is trying to convince people that he's a "reasonable leftist" but he only ever agrees with the right.
@@sheldonshell-hi9nj well that’s why you disagree with just like you would would agree with the right why is that a big deal? 🤔
@@sheldonshell-hi9nj Because a centrist that sides primarily with right wingers is what? C'mon use your brain you can do it!
Asks questions, talks over the answers, makes strawmen arguments and constant red herrings. For a debate bro, it’s hard to take this projecting charlatan seriously. Not to mention his flip flopping in attempts to not pin him down politically. We can all see Tim is a conservative, he looks more pathetic when attempting to hide it.
Calls something a hoax and then redefines the word "hoax". So disingenuous, just move the goalposts when you're getting beaten.
@@sprig5173 exactly, every time he was getting pinned he changed the subject (red herring). I can see why it would be futile for emma to call him out on the many red herrings he made because his goal was to trigger her by talking over her or just saying nuh uh. He wasn’t about to have his mind changed. There was one point when emma and freaky racist guy were talking about Ukraine, (even agreeing with one another) and Tim just chimes in like a child, do you guys want to go to war with China? Like, what a childish, irrelevant statement. Dude wants us to take him seriously?
god tims such a grifter its crazy
My favorite thing about Pool is how he reads an article for the first time on the air then quickly clicks out of it when he realizes it's not parroting his propaganda. He's done that on several occasions and it's hilarious everytime he does it.
@booyahcah29And the just the non chalant way she dismissed every BS argument he made. It was hilarious.
He's maybe the least threatening or imposing dude I've seen. Watching him try and steamroll over Emma while she is just calm and occasionally bemused was glorious.
Also, why was it so hard for that other dude to say if he'd done illegal drugs or not? Is he afraid his audience would be angry at him or something?
He said “MaYbE 😮”
i mean that guy is blatantly racist. he doesnt care if white people do drugs. but if a black person does, he's horny for them to be rounded up and brutalized in rikers
Remember that time when he was talking shit to R.A. the Rugged Man and damn near got his ass kicked on his own dumb show
You people are delusional
Y'know, when in doubt, saying "no" to having done illegal drugs is always the best bet because then if your family sees the clip you don't have to explain it to them, and then if your fans call you uncool you can say "I was lying bc my mom watches". WTF is 'maybe' as an answer?
“you don’t have audacity? it’s free”
YOU DON’T HAVE ZOOM? IT’S FREE
@@nakitai4402Who so ever is next to don that beanie... may republican Jesus have mercy on your soul, because the Majority Report cats won't
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Boom.
Are we supposed to believe that The Majority Report don't eq their shows?
@@ICTS22 i mean the first video I clicked on of theirs isn’t eq’d at all, sams voice has way too much low end in it so yes, I believe her when she says they don’t eq or have the stuff to eq
His denial over the neo-nazi shooter liking his podcast is actually psychotic
He's really hanging everything on the shooter not being subscribed. Next shooter will be subbed but didn't ring the bell. Really spineless.
@feistygheisty1980 Most people who watch videos on RUclips aren't usually subscribed lol it's a baseless argument
@@feistygheisty he didn't scream that he watches Tim Pool while committing the crime, so it must be false
There was a mass shooter Who watched the majority report does that mean the majority report is popular with mas shooters?
So would Hasan and Emma be to blame for the destruction caused during the BLM protests?
We are talking about a man who wears a winter hat all year round to avoid facing the fact he's bald. How are you going to talk "truth" with a guy that can't face his own reality
As a dude who genetics has 100% promised me will go bald: I cannot fathom thinking the beanie looks better. It just says "I'm immature and can't deal with reality". Then he said Prohibition made crime go down and confirmed yes, that's an accurate assessment of himself.
I believe one of the guys said: the ending of prohibition.
Has he ever addressed the beanie? I mean, we're all curious what kind of dome he's hiding. You'd think someone would've brought it up on one of his shows by now, lol.
Tim proving every aspect of his show is a hoax:
Tim Pool: "If there is a story, and the story is exaggerated or manipulated in an effort to sway people to believe one faction over another, you are engaging in a hoax."
Emma: "That's what you guys do? You post about small events of extreme crime."
Tim: "We don't do that, you don't watch the show."
Tim later: "Homeless people are pushing people in front of Subways! 25 people out of millions do it and we need to talk about it across the country!"
All part of the con, those that recognize his logic means he's a huckster leave, the suckers stay behind to pay for more grifting.
What Tim describes as a “hoax” is just called framing lol which is what all media does.
I do not think it’s a con... per se. Tim Pool is basically a bourgeoisie sympathizer... and engages in what is basically “Rich Guy” worshipping.
@@Ozzie_Mandias I think he's bought and paid for. I think all these rightwing podcasts that pretend they're liberal are run by the same entity.
@@Ozzie_Mandias It's a con, he isn't ideological, he's an opportunist.
Tim saying Nazis and racist don’t watch his show and get inspiration while having a dude 13/50 right next to him is nuts
Tim's perception skill is like 1/10 max
That statistic is based in truth tho, cope🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 lol, it's a massively debunked baby brainer talking point... dude just outed himself as having a sub room temp IQ 😂
@@maskedentrepreneur22me when I choose racism over critical analysis of socioeconomic conditions over time
Wide
This man said crime fell during the prohibition is one of the most dumbest things I’ve ever heard
Yeah I know organized crime got their biggest gains from prohibition and it made them more powerful for decades after the fact
I know, it’s unfortunate Hasan isn’t aware of who AJW is. I know I’m going to sound like debate lord, but sometimes debates online aren’t useless, I’ve seen him in debate circles and he straight up dog whistles intentionally or unintentionally all the time. He likes to act professional and scientific but he’s a complete weirdo.
He literally defended the 90s Broken Window policing strategy in NYC, which is why he was so excited when Emma brought up crime.
I don’t know him enough to say he is a Nazi, but a lot of stuff he says is Nazi adjacent and he agreed to debate on the same side as a race realist so I mean there’s pretty fucked up.
I think he cherry picked a bunch of data because he doesn’t think poverty causes crime because he probably believes the classic “fatherlessness and culture” bs. He basically thinks Black Americans are more prone to crime. Which is completely ridiculous if you have any academic knowledge whatsoever. But if he admitted poverty and crime were correlated his whole belief system would unravel. I mean his name is “Actual” justice warrior he perpetually stuck in gamergate era politics
@@nicholasemmendorfer8748 Hasan and AJW have debated before
@@noahsugarman8434When?
@@voxomnes9537 Like 4 yrs ago, AJW had snippets on his channel, not sure if Hasan did too
As soon as the guy said poverty doesn't cause crime, I knew he would say "it's because black people are just criminals". Right wingers have been using the same talking points for eons.
Yep which is why it's easy to debunk anything they say.
U can always count on libs to make excuses for ppl committing crimes. Imagine saying that being poor means u need to go commit serious crimes🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22imagine ignoring basic reality that has been settled science for decades. Ohh wait..
@@bece00Science doesn't support any of those racist positions.
He never said that. You're imagining things.
The emotional support beanie didn’t work this time
More like emotional support cohost 💀
It worked overtime. It saved him from actual tears several times.
You lefties are such hypocrites. "Stop making fun of what people choose to wear", don't you know the left loves to go after their own if they say something that doesn't fit the left's narrative?
😂
I love how tim brought his “black crime expert” friend for back-up
This was like watching a mom try to explain to her child why coloring on the wall isn’t okay.
"If you're telling me that its pride month, i should be allowed to spray paint rainbows all over your wardrobe
"Eww, Tim, stop finger painting with your feces!"
"So much for the tolerant left 😯"
Waaaa waaaa people die in Rikers for committing crimes waaaaah waaaah
@@SuperKiao aww it's really cute how you're at least trying to branch out and try more things instead of commenting "lmao cope" under every Hasan video. Good job! Still very low effort and childish but it must've been particularly difficult for you, so good job nonetheless, troll!
@@SuperKiao cope
Ah yes, the Andrew Tate method of denying you said thing you clearly said online.
The race war thing was an unfounded allegation, nothing has ever been shown to prove he said what he's being accused of saying.
@@TheNewton No, he's been talking about coming race wars over and over
@@TheNewton*Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.*
Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.*
*In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.*
*Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.*
*Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._
*Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers.
*Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.*
What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole.
Literally what you're doing
It worked out so well for him, why not try it too? lmao
All you have to do is scroll through Tim Pool’s comments section. That’s all the proof you need he doesn’t attract centrists.
The worst fucking racists you’ve ever seen
Oh they're BIGLY triggered by this. One even suggested violence to deal with "the left" because of Tim's humiliation.
They like to think of themselves as super special snowflakes who are outside the binary of right and left wing and are the only wise ones who can see that both parties have flaws. Then they vote for every single right winger they see and fantasize about killing leftists. You know, a "centrist" position, not a right wing one. Ugh. The cringe is bad even secondhand.
A self declared alpha lying male who gets crushed by a strong intelligent woman bringing factually correct information. What a delight.
He never got crushed🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22Cope.
Tim’s dog runs the house. When walking down hallways. Tim moves out the way.
He got so triggered. It was glorious to watch.
@@maskedentrepreneur22cope
Emma: "I think your show appeals to aggrieved neo-nazis, because there is evidence of them engaging with your content"
Tim: *sobbing* " you are slandering me" *sobbing* "your Jew boss told you what to say" *sobbing* " you made my music sound bad" *sobbing*
Really, what other response should we expect.
His whole game is to bully his guests until they get upset, then claim his "information" triggered them 😂
Dude lost his pissing match against someone who pees sitting down, lol
@@thepolarphantasm2319That burn? That heat reached me through the phone screen.
@@thepolarphantasm2319 if you think so lol
@@beastlydevil777 bro Tim's ancestors are making cave paintings as hard as they can to warn him from all the way back in the Seditious Era (that's the one where Republicans were formed)
"Beware the competent woman- she bears receipts"
Hasan show appeals to racist that hate white people ? guilt by association what is your point
The fact that these 2 idiots were just bombarding her and speaking over her and she still held her own is so impressive.
it's very funny to watch these supposedly intelligent & strong-willed men struggle to not lean so far into misogyny and arrogance while emma takes their ideas apart, but they're clearly cracking at the seams over her ability to talk through and above their nonsense.
I especially liked the part where she said she was ok with children being exposed to pornography. Lolol
You did not watch the debate. Nobody who actually thinks Emma came out on top watched the debate.
@@atriggeredsjw8532 anyone who thinks actual justice warrior and Pool are honest actors are as unhinged as someone who has read the Necronomicon.
@@nataliaofthenightlords Idk about TP, but AJW uses stats and facts to back up his positions, not EV and her trash, feelings based positions.
Its crazy how quickly he just devolved to "Some one told you to think and say that" and then adds "some man" later lol
Tim: "We have ads."
Also Tim: "We actually don't have ads, it's all memberships."
Also Tim: "We have 4 advertisers- actually no, we have no ads, we got rid of them all."
Tim has a billionaire buddy like Clarence Thomas
And all those statements weren’t even far apart. Does he listen to himself?? 😂
Also Tim..
“I am rich I live in a bunker designed for children.”
“You’re poor, you’re a grifter.”
“Everyone but me is a groomer… hey kids, isn’t my skate park cool and did you see I paid the guy from offspring to be here? That’s cool, right?”
Are you slow? He literally explained that they had ads initially to earn money but got rid of them
@@SuperKiao Are you slow? The fact he was able to get huge ads and sponsors was Emma's point, and Tim was trying to hide the fact he still has advertisers and sponsors by bringing up the few instances where he doesn't use them. In other words: he's getting plenty of outside money and lying about it.
Lol dude straight up denied the link between poverty and crime 😂
the link is conviction rate. There is as much or more crime happening by the uber rich. The kind of crime that destroys entire countries
It's only one factor in the big picture along with dysfunctional family life, abuse, personality disorders, social class and culture - look into that a bit more because it's important that you understand the topic.
He didn't deny it, he admitted the truth that crime causes poverty
@@MrGgabberso what causes people to commit crimes?
@@potatopotatow humans aren't inherently good, opportunity, lax enforcement, family structure, ect. As proven repeatedly, we have periods of poverty and wealth inequality throughout history that don't correlate to crime
Emma Vigeland didn't just beat Tim Pool in this debate, she beat that random frat boy too. She beat them while they both interrupted her and would not let her finish sentences. Emma destroyed them both.
No she didn’t🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22she did lol cope little guy
@@vitaminwater9662took dude less than 10 min of video getting posted to show up and try to rebut the entire comments section thread by thread...
...with his dead lock of an argument, "lol cope"
@austinbrittain3923 are you sad seeing the America you love get stolen from you? How does it feel that all of us queers and trans people are slowly taking control over your home? Does it make you feel uncomfortable, seeing your 'American' values be destroyed?
Because we revel in it. We love seeing all of you seethe and pretend that you are relevant. We cant wait to see the last of you fade, and will be celebrating each and every single one of your pathetic little temper tantrums while we get there.
honestly surprised how well she did. good shit emma.
The fact that a little girl COULD have legally been forced to carry a pregnancy to term is deplorable and means the laws must be changed.
This is why we must call for Direct Digital Democracy without parties or politicians. Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract means Communities can vote their own laws. As well as a Public Authority to audit police and prosecute bad actors in our own courts.
Thorium energy renders their global energy monopoly obsolete
@@Uncanny_Mountain We also need social democracy in the workplace too! A lot of this is by corporate demand to cut healthcare under the guise of religious morality, which has now extended as far as everyone on the left always guessed it would be-they’re not stopping at banning abortion, they want voting rights revoked for minorities, they want to ban and revoke the rights of the LGBTQ community, they want books banned, and they clearly want healthcare and all workers rights revoked.
As far as they push the conversation to the right by stawmanning everything-we all need to push it completely back to the other side and not just fight for our rights by doing something like another mass strike, but we need to finally CODIFY them like Trump did by changing everyone in office to an R we need to change them all back to D’s.
Dam, she could've but than the little would get taken away if the truth was said.
@@Uncanny_Mountain this is putting the cart before the horse. no matter what system you try to put in place it will be systematically destroyed by the capitalist ruling class.
your basically rocking up to a feudal kingdom and saying the people should elect the king
What are you even talking about
The guy who talking about how poverty doesn't lead to crime is so, so funny. Poverty preceding crime is not only basic logic, but is categorically supported by every data set across the globe. It's like the main thing that everything comes back to in any criminology course. He's not even cherry picking, he's straight up just totally, categorically wrong in every possible facet and then skipping over that and arguing semantics with her
Member when Hasan debated AJW and he made hasan look like a retard 😂😂😂😂
Mad respect for anyone who watches Tim pool debate from beginning to end.
I’ve watched clips from his “debates” and his five head winning strategy seems to be “if I shout a lot of nonsense very quickly. I’ll confuse the hell out of the person I’m arguing against and win”
Edit: for the Incels saying “cope” Please learn some self-awareness
Changing the "facts" of the matter sometimes three or four times a sentence 😂
I really wanted to watch Emma on there but listening to Tim is almost painful.
😊😊❤
Pool and Shabibo are living proof that if you talk fast enough and throw in random racist buzzwords/statistics the conservatives will throw money at you and believe everything you say
The Ben Shapiro school of “debate”
The funniest part is him bringing in a ringer so he can just “moderate” and he still couldn’t help but getting owned.
black crime expert *
This is why Tim gets so pissy over people refusing to travel to his compound. He's insecure about his need to control the debate venue.
They know they're propagandists, that's why
It was hard work but Tim managed to find someone even more insufferable than him.
They literally tried 2v1ing and failed horrendously 😂
The fact that the Daily Mail is Tim's only news source tells you everything you need to know about him
Having seen extended Tim Pool interactions only recently: I find it hilarious he literally tries to Jedi Mind Trick his way in these heated discussions; often declaring "You don't believe that!" Or "False argument!" and just moving on because he doesn't want to defend his positions.
He uses the mega common low IQ conservative move of telling his opponent "what you people believe"
Right wingers are so very massively off on any and every topic left wing related it's a constant laugh riot... thanks to Matt Walsh for instance, it's 'common knowledge' that no one on the left knows what a woman is. 😂😂😂😂😂
"What did I say?"
"ERRONEOUS!!! ERRONEOUS ON ALL COUNTS!!!!"
Emma Vigeland is 29, has a bachelors degree, graduated cum laude with honors in Government & Law. Tim dropped out of school at 14 and is now 37, having done nothing but been a reactionary since 2011. Oofie ouchie my beanie horts
Degrees don’t equal intelligence as we see with many college kids, nice try tho🤣
@austinbrittain3923 hope you have fun with your non-degree having surgeon then lmao. Im sure every scientist is wrong globally and its not that you listen exclusively to morons on the internet.
@@maskedentrepreneur22egrees don’t necessarily mean you’re smart, but finishing high school sure helps your ability to think critically, do math and tell good information from bad.
But Tim would have had to start high school to finish it. Lucky he has his grift or he’d be in trouble.
@@maskedentrepreneur22 We can tell you didn't attend college🤣🤣🤣, touch some grass and cope harder.
@@maskedentrepreneur22hope Tim sees this
I've already said this in the Serfs' comments and Rational National's about him coping to "playing low quality audio" while making fun of his band.
Some of my favorite albums have spotty to absolute dogshit production. Over distorted guitars, bass that drowns out the band, vocals clipping the mic, instruments that sound like they're scraped against washboards, and with equipment that is so lo-fi, you'd think they recorded it in one guy's garage (and many times, they did). And those are some of my favorite records.
The quality of the audio isn't the issue, Tim.
So true. For example I'm a big JF fan boy and this one vid for some reason I just can't get enough of despite the quality being azz lol.
ruclips.net/video/59W1oFds1GI/видео.html&ab_channel=Isauria
even if he bought the best mixing and mastering the industry could provide, it will never make such uninspired and unoriginal songwriting entertaining.
tim pool saying "c'mon c'mon c'mon" makes me mad in an extremely strong and specific way
C'mon c'mon c'mon. If you're just irrationally biased against Tim you can be honest about it. You don't have to posture like this. /jokes
Makes me think of Nicholas Cage saying "No YOU come, on, maaaaaan!"
@@kayvee256 GRRRR!
What's the hurry? Don't they wank on for hours on his crappy podcasts?
Tim is so 1993 that his verbal tics are straight outta Soundgarden's spoonman
I love the part where Emma says "isn't that what you do?" And Tim starts stammering "wha..wha..what are you talking about?"
I think its at about 16:12.
So funny. How does anyone take him seriously?
But dude he has a sword and a guitar and a black powder pistol. How serious is that?
She made a strawman argument, she couldn't back any of it up.
The reason Tim wants people to come to his show, and refuses skype, etc is because he wants to atrip his guests feom being able to fact checkk in real time. Cuz if people are able to call out his bullshit, with citations. Its over for him.
Cope harder
I tried to watch... it's very hard to listen to Tim for long without jumping out a window, and that Fitzgerald guy made it even harder.
And you don’t think Emma is hard to listen to?
You lefties are known for that.
Looking up "malding" in a dictionary and you'll see Tim Pool's picture
In the Tim Pool dictionary "hoax" has a different meaning.
That other dude is the embodiment of the quote "There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics".
Serious kudos to her to going on the show and absolutely CRUSHING it. She's hitting them hard with facts and their only response is "prove it". On top of that no one is fact checking so again it's all in bad faith and she is still balling 😂
I still think she should have pushed in a little more with the other guy. He was conflating statistics and talking points in a hurry, and passively admitting to a couple her points.
@@mons3020he woudl get pinned down the just tsay shes liying or say he info is not true and there info is true its wild
@@mons3020he also had Tim running interference trying to shift the conversation constantly whenever he made an unhinged take it's hard to pin someone down when you have two people talking over you.
@@mons3020 the whole point was to overwhelm her, like trying to get her to list issues on the spot when he's jumping from one unproven claim to the next
The Gish gallop /ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/ is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality.
@@mons3020 She did the best that could have been done given they have no interest in the truth and only wanted to turn her into content.
Holy fuck, I didn't think tim would be dumb enough to take her up on her offer on the majority report, but Emma really rolled him as a result. Her casual confidence is going to make tim have a hard time cliping it in the future.
Her casual confidence in defending teaching 10 year olds to hook up with adult men on Grindr is quite impressive
"When you say poverty leads to crime, what are tou basing that on?" -this is how to announce that you are knowingly and pathetically arguing in bad faith lol holy shit
I'm gonna need a round of applause from everyone on Emma's patience and persistence in that environment, please. And her abilities to *masterfully* hone in on what needs to be said in each passing moment, as well as using her judgement on the fly to decide what needs to be refuted on the spot, what's a trap that won't lead her (or anyone else who isn't a weird, pointdexter, right wing troll) anywhere, and how she's able to weave these impressive empirical arguments, ALL WHILE not getting thrown off dealing with two of these people at once, each EMPLOYING DIFFERENT TACTICS than the other? I mean come on, folks. I didn't need to say anything, because Emma clearly _beyond speaks for herself_ through word and action.
So all I'm going to say is fan-f#%king-tastic work, Emma, and thank you for doing it.
Emma is Top G ❤
She defended children on Grinder 😂😂😂
@@SuperKiaoYep
@@SuperKiaocope
@@SuperKiao Where? Also, your comment history is pathetic how do you have over 1k angry comments on this channel what a weirdo
The more I hear Tim Pool talk, the more brain cells I lose.
i don't listen to/watch many debates so idk how they're normally argued but he just sounds so unprofessional almost like a child😭i mean i understand maybe getting a little emotional but his tone at times just sounds like a literal kid
@@starry.octolingg582 He usually gets away with his debating tactics because he usually doesn't have guests on that are anywhere near as competent as Emma. She really got under his skin, and afterwards she was able to use his emotions against him when making factual statements and calling out his various lies and debate tactics so he couldn't steer away from the point. The only thing she could of done better when he was trying to paint himself as more liberal was saying "so which politicians are you voting for that are going to achieve those goals?" That said, excellent work completely dismantling him and the other dude (who Emma basically got to say he was only in favor of Gun Control for people of Color).
This is the first time I've ever watched a video with him in it (I'm Australian), but it really is astonishing how painfully dim-witted he appears to be.
Surprised you have any left after consuming Hasan
@@DietersYT...
That was the worst attempt I've seen at ownership online since that time cryptobros bought that 50k$ book for 2.5m$ because they thought buying Dune would give them the whole IP
Funny thing is the right wingers are claiming Tim destroyed her in this interview 😂😂😂
Their safe space was violated by an attractive leftist women, they're having an existential crisis right now.
Tim couldn’t even do that with alcohol and roofies
No, they are claiming Pool and Emma are children in comparison to Fitzgerald.
Irrespective of your political leaning, he was the only one who could back his claims.
@@welovecheshirecats4557There is no evidence that Garcia's posts were a psy-op and of course they would say Fitzgerald won it he's a rightwinger like them and supposedly yourself.
@@welovecheshirecats4557😂😂
"poverty and income and inequality go hand in hand"
"nuh uh!"
I feel like if you don’t have that basic understanding you should not be allowed to debate
If one person gets 99.9% of the pizza, does that necessarily mean the person who gets 0.01% is hungry? Geniuses these two.
@Radjhitoocool how do you figure they aren't different? We literally have better overall material conditions now than ever before, significantly fewer people die of poverty than ever before, statistically miniscule portion of larceny crimes involve basic necessities, ect.
People aren't stealing bread because they are Aladdin, they are stealing TVs because they know they will get away with it
@@MrGgabber ppl are stealing tvs and selling them for money to buy food. There’s not enough social safety nets the cost of living is rising faster than wages. GDP look good but it’s not trickling down to the working class American most of whom live pay check to paycheck and can’t afford a 1000$ emergency expense.
@@Radjhitoocool lmao, no they aren't selling them to buy food. 🤣
I know, the answer is always "more socialism", doesn't change the fact people are not dying from starvation in this country.
One is stealing to live, the other is stealing from jealousy. I know commies don't understand the difference. Makes no mention of the fact violent crime has nothing to do with poverty, when over 85% of assault and murder don't involve robbery
Also that "$1000" nonsense (though it's sometimes $500, or $800) is based on surveys of people opinions, not that they couldn't get $1000 if they really had to, just that they would prefer not. It's been debunked repeatedly.
Also r@pe increases with violent crime rates, so are people committing SA to feed their family?
Just got through all 37 mins. Great video! She totally cooked Tim's ass. He looked soooo mad.
Lol
His anger was an attempt to not address the point. He’s a fucking joke.
Dude 100% had to go play in the backyard with his "wall weapons" before his nap that day
Nice joke🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Yes, you and your sugar daddy Dim Fool are indeed jokes. Keep on coping though.
He tried so hard to be as misogynistic as possible when speaking to her yet his ego imploded on itself. Absolute flawless victory for Emma.
I get that he was going for some alpha male posturing but it just looked like what it was: a guy getting more and more worked up while Emma calmly watched him work himself up into a state of incoherent lunacy. This is like a guy who can't do tic-tac-toe going up against a chessmaster.
when was he doing that
@@morganqorishchi8181 incoherent because u didnt understand, tic tac with someone that doesnt understand what moralism is while accusing the other. damn sucks to be dumb
always love these grifters thinking that any sort of corporate news media is left leaning
Most r, but how is having a different view make u a grifter🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Are you a child?
@@demoninveinswhat does what I said have to do with age🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22your logic there is very much that of a person whose brain is still forming, and not just into the finishing touches or something but like .. idk man
Sometimes we wonder if people like you are bad faith af on purpose or if you're just legit cognitively limited, and imho it's a coin toss at this point
Not just left leaning, they think it’s far left.
Tim Pool is so obviously misogynistic.
I agree
Many Republicans are
So what
@@zaab-yaoh9302 *"So what"* Obviously you care otherwise you wouldn't be here lmao.
He keeps talking down to Emma like he's the big smart man but she's so obviously far more intelligent than him
I like the implication from Tim that some dumb woman would have never thought to bring up the mass shooter, so obviously somebody told her what to say. Really revealing.
NOTHING could've hurt Tim's music more than Tim. His music is ok but it's 20 years too late, it sounds like every mainstream emo rock song from the early 2000s
no, it sucks
Am horrified to learn that he produced music. Again, a frustrated artiste turning to right wing demagoguery.
@@emmy8526 I think this time it's a right-wing demagogue turning into a frustrated artist. Still counts as a war crime though.
True. I watch Timcast IRL, but I'm not a fan of his music.
It's not bad, but it does sound like early 2000s emo pop. Not my cup of tea.
Emma: “You ARE that guy bro”
First, it would appear that the uptick in violent crime levels in 2020 are roughly equivalent to what they were during the great depression in the 1930s. This bolster Emma's point about poverty and crime being related.
Second, they are arguing the numbers in the 90s without the context of the time. As someone who was born in 1972 and watched the 90's unfold as an adult, I can give some perspective. The minimum wage was raised three times during the 90's and the economy grew so long without a crash they called it "the new economy". The 90's were a time of economic prosperity for everyone, not just the rich, so it bolsters Emma's point.
As for the 60's and 70's with a huge spike, this was a time when integration and civil rights activity was rising and many racists were doing lynchings which contributed greatly to the violent crime rates, along with the minority militia groups that formed to protect themselves since the police weren't doing it. I suppose you could make the argument that a lynching is not financially motivated, but if you leave out that context and just point to raw crime numbers you're being misleading.
By the time the 90's rolled around, you had an entire generation that grew up integrated and people became a lot more chill and less territorial. The 90's was well known for being PC, becoming accepting of gays, accepting interracial couples as normal, very liberal. The internet was born which jumpstarted a new economic revolution that regular people could get in on without being gatekept by institutional wealth, but social media didn't exist yet so our brains had not been rotted. And on top of that we got rid of lead in gas and paint. There are several; contributing factors to the violent crime rates dropping in the 90s.
Excellent post!
Slay with the history lesson
Wages (and employment) did not track growth or inflation for the lower economic class. The economy grew steadily but distribution changed. Personal and national debt climbed radically and much ‘wealth’ was from new/over-valued markets or financial products. Domestic manufacturing largely went overseas.
I thought it was lead in pipes and combusted fuel that caused ingestion but I could be wrong.
The 90s also started with a massive crash.
Tim Pool: It is a hoax unless the hospital says no and literally imprisons you to force you to deliver the baby
It's a hoax unless you're not using the definition Tim uses that nobody else uses
But also vaccine mandates (that don't exist) are bad
@@Uncanny_Mountainso you’re denying that OSHA attempted vaccine mandates underneath the Biden administration? Also new New York tried to do vaccine passports. Sounds like they are bad that’s why they weren’t implemented.
@@Uncanny_MountainLots of people lost their jobs to mandates. What kind of alternate reality do you live in?
@@fatmonkey4716 no one was forced to take a vaccine partner
But ten times more Cons died than Dems, so keep on virtue signalling Mr "I'm not a Sheep"
Extremely common W by Emma
U mean L🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22cope
@@maskedentrepreneur22Oh no, a deranged Taint AND Tool fan
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Explain.
@austinbrittain3923 how very tantrumpunk of you
It’s so embarrassing because he has this look of smugness and pride on his face, as if he’s doing really well here, while spewing out random nonsense. He just keeps talking over her and at some points even seems incredibly aggressive/violent towards her in his tone and the loudness of his voice and he’s not even making any points.
Calling the kettle black. Projection much? Smug pride face pony solder...
She says in a hasan piker video. Critical thinking really isn't your thing, is it?
Did you notice she is fine with kids being groomed by pedophiles. And, taking porn out of schools is "censorship" you weirdos just keep killing your babies then rape them,.support men walking naked with small kids in pride parade. No wonder narcissism and Psychoticism is linked to leftism.
Very telling that it takes two men to debate this woman.
takes two men to lose* a debate with this woman
Well the left doesn’t know what a woman is so…. You’ve already lost this argument.
@@datdude3327When did they lose?
It takes two men to *fail* debating her. Not even to come to a tie, it takes two dudes to fail. Emma is a gift.
Dummy Dore would have entirety agreed with tim pool
Those two should go on tour together…in that Titanic submarine
who gives a shit if someone shoplifts a louis vuitton bag anyway?
Probably the owner of the store and their family.
If the theft continues to the point that they can't make rent anymore then everyone who works there lose their jobs which makes the community poorer. Thieves suck.
@@yadidimeanmaine are there mom and pop LV stores?
@@MarcHendry I thought it was franchised, but I just looked it up. It isn't.
That still doesn't mean that theft doesn't have a negative affect. The store could still have to shut down which would cost people their jobs. It would also suck pretty bad to have multiple people rush the store that you work at looting shit. Not good. Thieves still suck.
@@yadidimeanmaine granted I wouldn't be friends with someone who steals, but I don't think shoplifting is a big societal issue
there are many things that could be said about this debate, about Tim Pool, but the thought that just keeps coming back to me is: damn. what a strange, sad, angry little man.
Dude really is ultra gross
Like come on, Timmy.. be like John Doyle and make everyone who reads that name go "oh yeah wtf happened to that loser"
You have to picture this happening in his creepy little compound where people have to come to him cause he has some kind of paranoid agoraphobia, I guess? I hope Emma went with a security person or she might have ended up like that cat he held hostage.
Attacking him and not his argument only proves his argument is better than yours.
@@fatmonkey4716 unlike the substance of any tim pool argument, of course... which has told grown adults with fully formed brains for years and years now that dude has no actual arguments 😂
@@thepolarphantasm2319 Can you argue a point, or not?
The more calm she is the more hype i get. I love her
“There’s a middle ground here, and I think the Daily Mail hits on it,” Tim Pool. 😂
As someone cognizant of the world we live in, I think she did good. Too bad Tim’s audience don’t live in the same reality as the rest of us, every correct point will go over their heads. Also wth was that yes man doing there? Where they only there to make Tim look good? Honestly, a very weird debate
Yeah, I went through the comments on this video, and that’s basically the gist. They’re all living in beanie world.
To be fair, towards the end of the conversation they have (when they dive into the Ukraine issue), the co-host begins to push back and disagree with Tim Pool on certain things. Not that it means much in the grand scheme of things.
I love how they needed to be two to debate her.
@@emmy8526when Lando Canadian (aka Lance from de Serfs) attended a very special episode of Timmy Hottubs' Fash Fun Club recently, there was rarely a moment where two or more Americans weren't shouting over the dude
They said "let's just blanket the Canadian dude with stupid mouth noises" and it made Lance look "clueless" to Tim's audience.
Then again, That's never been an audience capable of interpreting data or stimuli of any sort 😂
If you've seen any debate with Andrew Tate, he does the same thing. He always has one or two young bootlickers that agree with everything he says
Man, she CRUSHED him so hard he was literally going "UHM, MAKE ARGUMENTS THAT I LIKE NOT ARGUMENTS I CAN'T ARGUE AGAINST" jesus christ
Putting sources, resources and definitions on the screen directly is SUCH a good idea on a channel like this. Huge kudos to Hasan and his editors!!
This may sound barbaric to some of you but Tim Pool is the type of guy that 100% needs to get his shit rocked
That snarky "Actual Justice Warrior" would face the People's Elbow QUICK if he was caught talking the way he does to the right people
I wanted to right hook that smug look off his face so badly. You'd have to tie a winch around me to pull me off of him.
The tolerant left
@@peterjennings994Exactly! We tolerate the right's dumb shit every day. Glad you understand.
@@peterjennings994lol. There's no winning with you people. You don't have values. Only things you'd sell for material success
Emma the Goat 🐐
Tim had his boyfriend on because he couldn't handle her on his own
Shoplifters are actually just klepto millionaires who shoplift so much for avocado toast that it causes poverty.😂
it's OK to just say you don't understand the argument
@@WapitalismandWreedom what do you mean “the argument” poverty causing crime is a widely studied and agreed upon fact. There’s not much of an argument against that other than, nuh uh, it’s the other way around. Pretty sure I fully understood the “counter” not argument. Dude didn’t even “argue” or have an argument. He literally said, it’s the other way around, and failed to explain how, went on to his opinion of he thinks justice should act or be. And obviously crime and poverty become cyclical, that doesn’t remove the root of the problem which is poverty causing the first “shop lift”. Do you think people are just stealing for funzies and that causes the neighbourhoods to “decay” thus causing poverty? Or that poverty causes both the decay and crime initially? Also, retell “the argument” if you know it and I don’t. It’s pretty vague to just claim my knowledge of something with out explaining where you think I went wrong. I doubt you’d like vague comments. My comment is obviously a parody on dudes “counter”. What ever attempt at evidence he provided failed and they agreed the problems of crime and poverty become a cycle with both causing both to happen simultaneously. Remember how they agreed on that and reviewed the study of lead causing crimes too? Gee, I wonder what communities suffered the most lead exposure. I think we can both agree that poverty is sort of baked into our system and some communities in the us have been deliberately neglected and kept in poverty over decades to where it’s all but impossible for the communities to “pull themselves up by their bootstraps” with out the nation’s government assisting them. These communities that experience the most poverty are mostly black and brown communities that’s not because the people are black and brown it’s because of systemic and systematic racism keeping it that way. The fact that there are still different communities based on color is a result of racism. Sucks we don’t just have “communities” over the few centuries we’ve been a nation. No, we need a “China town” and “black community”. I used to always wonder why that was, I’m willing to bet it was discrimination laws that sort of forced people to form their own communities and we haven’t really broken the needless trend.
@@adrianmetzler2523Criminals don't live in a bubble where only crime happens. They live in the real world and have seen good and bad, and still chose to commit crimes against innocent people. Why do you ignore that?
@adrianmetzler2523 I'd love for you to show me a single conclusive study that shows poverty CAUSING crime. They are correlated, yes, but a causal relationship has never been established to any significant degree. youre talking out of your ass and making assumptions based on your feelings and intuition, not data.
@@fatmonkey4716 I don’t know what you mean by “criminals”. We’re talking about poverty causing “crime”. I don’t ignore that people cause crime outside of poverty ridden communities. I don’t agree with some when they call an immigrant who came here “illegally” for example a “criminal” gay word gets used loosely. So again, I don’t know what you mean by “criminals” most all of us have done some form of “law breaking”. At what point do we get labeled “criminals”? 1 time in jail? 2 times?
I could not have done this holy shit
If two people just straight up lied to my face for hours, and talked down to me like this I wouldn’t be able to talk
She’s incredible
Stupid people drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. She did great not to fall for it.
When did they lie?
@@fatmonkey4716its about a 15 seccond interval between lies. Starting at 0:01 and ending never.
@@macin6931 Not one of you kids have been able to name a specific lie from Tim or AJW. Because you are all too lazy and ideologically captured to verify any information Hasan gives you.
It's like he took debate class in hs and was really bad at it, but made it his whole identity anyways, that you can be objectively wrong and still "win" the debate, and thinking that makes you super smart. It's the most annoying personality type. Debate-pedos is such an apt assessment
Yeah, those that bask in logical fallacy and aggression toward opponents and believe that they've won, not understanding that their opposition was just being a sensible human and not sinking to their level.
It's just so cringe and hard to watch people literally be stupid and try and justify it. The goal posts move each time she contradicts their points. TBH, all of these guys who make content like this probably need their hard drives checked.
Sad part is his audience considers that “winning”.
@mickeyfickey1252 yeah I did and she did not do that. They were doing that. Every time they made a point and she countered it they moved the goal past. Just say your a dick rider and move on.
@mickeyfickey1252nah she bodied him you just mad your boy looked like a fool
@mickeyfickey1252so should 10 year olds carry a fetus to term? And in that same breath we ban anything to explain what sex is in an age appropriate way? Explain please.
@@maybemablemaples2144No, that sounds like it should be a medical exemption. Do you think killing a human for contraception is a good thing?
I saw this debate live Emma is the goat and somehow the guy next to Tim pool is creepier!
Ya that guy sus la..
They're Jesuits using Psychological warfare, mainly Gaslighting aka Grooming
*Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.*
Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.*
*In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.*
*Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.*
*Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._
*Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers.
*Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.*
What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole.
Literally what they're doing
Well yeah because the other guy ain't just grifting like Dim Fool, he's just a racist freak.
I was a 4chan user and supported Trump because I didn't hear the left side of the story from anywhere. Now I am becoming the thing that I was scared of back in the day amk
I bet it’s like a flash bang going off every time he removes that beanie
🤣🤣🤣🤣
People that can't argue his statements often resort to character assassinations.
LOL 'you ripped the mids out.'
What a tool.
Yep. Pim Tool.
@@cinemarxist_ I prefer Dim Fool.
When you can't beat the argument, beat the messenger. You people are fools.
@@fatmonkey4716 that's not how that saying goes, but it looks like you say a lot of dumb shit on this channel so I'm not surprised.
Listening to them talk about audio is ultra cringe lol
As a Hispanic, I feel insanely overlooked and hardly recognize unless it deals with crime. Even Hassan didn't recognize Hispanics were also in the stats. Can't even be a criminal. T^T
Today I learned: Tim Pool doesn't understand the word "hoax"
Funny how he cites the great depression, a time when reporting crimes was not as easy and records weren't kept as well, and the recession, which mostly affected the wealthy and higher middle class in his argument that poverty "doesn't create crime"
And the best he has is when crimes were hardly reported and people affected who had enough money to recover.
Amazing
Listening to these debate bros actually fries my brain, and makes me so angry at their willingness to push stupidity
Those pop-ups such as the 13/50 explainer were the MVPs of this video. Good editing
IKR
It's really more like 3/50 since it's black MALES 14-25 that account for the perpetration of about half of ALL violent crime in the U.S.
This is actually painful to watch, I love seeing people get destroyed in debated but tim pool just pretends he's not getting destroyed the whole time
"So what i said was, the fact that they politized this to win a political point is the hoax, not that the child is abused." - Tim Pool
"This is why i say ladies and gentlemen, i do believe its a hoax." - Tim Pool
I mean it was though in some aspects right it's true that she was raped and she was pregnant what isn't true is that she couldn't get an abortion there's laws in place that would allow her to get an abortion didn't the mom actually go to a different state so that her boyfriend (the rapist) wouldn't get in trouble
+jessiebates6858 A lot of doctors (or more properly the clinic lawyers) have turned a lot of people away because they don’t want to take the legal risk on an edge case. These abortion laws are written vaguely specifically to create that chilling effect. There also not many abortion providers in Ohio, so it may have been easier to go out of state.
+jessiebates6858 Taht isn’t a “hoax,” that is a person not having a full understanding of the law and deciding to not take chances by going to a state where the procedure is fully legal.
@@samiamrg7 no one would have turned away a 10 year old I've only seen one person actually say she shouldn't have gotten and he's straight up wrong it's true that one in another state could be closer but that's not what the story was the story was because of the law she couldn't get one which wasn't true
@@samiamrg7 that's not why she went to another state she went to another state because she cared more about her rapist boyfriend then her own daughter it wasn't her that caused the hoax it was the media that created the hoax (a malicious deception) to try to change abortion laws by saying a 10 year old couldn't get an abortion when she could
Dude got worked, just completely beat up on his own fucking show. Emma is a true legend.
Joking?🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22 lol how do you not get that no one sees this and says "man that guy is smart"
They see this debate and at best they're saying "holy crap, who gave this moron a podcast?"
@austinbrittain3923 brother you can keep trying, but you just look like a clown
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Coping still?
Emma is Top G ❤
But, Hasan..using Skype or Zoom during covid was tantamount to bending the knee to the right's boogeyman of the pandemic, Emperor Anthony Palpatine Faucci!
It must be that time of the month for Tim. He should smile more.
Brava 👏🏼 I literally spit my coffee 🖤✌🏼 I hope you have a wonderful day.
like memes aside tim came into this shit immediately giving off angry incel vibes it was fucking wild
Why r u ppl obsessed with using the word incel for ppl it has nothing to do with🤣
^ Found the incel ^
Tim Muck Pond the right winger that claims to be a centrist but we all know he's a right winger.
Pretending to be for universal healthcare is especially annoying when he supports republicans.
Tim Nuclear Runoff
I’m not saying Tim is a Nazi, but Nazis say Tim is a Nazi
I remember he cheered and clapped when Roe was removed, how is that not liberal
Which is called gaslighting aka grooming
No matter how ridiculous these guys are, they will ALWAYS look strong and reasonable to a right-wing audience.
It's relative. They're strong and reasonable compared with their base
Emma during the debate defended children going on grinder and a book showing how to give blowjobs In children’s schools.
It’s not hard to look reasonable when that’s your opponent…
So you think it’s appropriate for children to have books that instruct then how to get hook ups on grinder? You need to evaluate yourself, because if you don’t think there’s a problem with that, you are the problem. And if society wasn’t on these people’s side, you would get dealt with accordingly.
@@heffe4257 That book was never on classroom shelves grow up
@@joshuanorman2 you people are delusional, you willingly deny reality. It was.
"WHAT DID HE POST?? YOU'RE WRONG"😂😂😂 Bro chill
Tim Poole is hilarious. He get so defensive. Defensiveness is the sign of a true beta
He's.not just Beta, he's BETAMAX
Which is insane cos I thought they stopped making those in like 1985
@@thepolarphantasm2319 have no idea what this means but I’m liking your comment anyways
@@Getout634 once upon a time, there was a war between video formats... JVC made one, I think Panasonic the other. One was called VHS, which won enormously. The other was called BETAMAX, which is hilarious in 2023 for altogether separate reasons than the Japanese could've known.
One of my all time favorite Chris Rock jokes (written by Wanda Sykes): "I met a woman that doesn't give blowjobs... it's *current year* and I'm looking at this bitch like she's a goddamn BETAMAX. THEY STILL MAKE YOU?"
The sword and the old style rifle on his wall behind him does it for me.
Mega-insecure beta who puts weapons on his wall like a reddit mod thinking he's a ninja because he owns a reproduction katana.
I’ve been thinking about this all day and I still can’t get my brain to understand this dude’s point that income inequality is separate and non-dependent on poverty and how either of these factors play no factor in crime. That dude was just being condescending and contradicting to Emma for the sake of it.
*Gaslighting is a psychological term used to describe* the process of *grooming* someone into believing that they are losing it or going crazy. *Gaslighting a child is perhaps the most egregious form of child abuse.*
Gaslighting is a common form of emotional/psychological abuse and can be used as a tactic in *grooming* children for abuse. The term comes from Gaslight (1944) a movie where the technique is used by the characters. *Gaslighting is sometimes also called “crazy making”.*
*In the context of child sexual abuse (CSA) the **_gaslighting_** is often used to convince the victim all the abusive behaviours are fine, normal and an expression of “love”. It is used to ensure the victim doesn’t speak out about it and doesn’t fight back. It can also be used in concert with other **_grooming_** tactics like fear and isolation.*
*Trivializing: The victim’s feels are made to feel like they don’t matter, are **_unfounded_** or they are weak for thinking so.*
*Countering: This is quintessential gaslighting. * They _directly counter the memories and perceptions of the victim._
*Repetitive Questions: The abusive partner makes the victim doubt what they think or feel by asking the same question multiple times.* Questions are asked so many times the victim doubts their own answers.
*Diverting: The abuser diverts the subject and puts the blame into outside circumstances.*
What Others Say: The abuser tells the victim what other people think about the victim, the abuser and/or the situation on whole.
Literally what tim is doing
Did the criminals grow up in a bubble that only had crime? Or did they grow up in the real world where there is good and evil and they still chose to commit crimes on innocent people? How was someone able to manipulate you into such ignorance that these people didn't know good from bad?
@@fatmonkey4716 you sound like someone that can’t put cause and effect into use. I’m talking about how poverty leads to crime. I think crime is bad. What is the point you’re trying to make?
@@Umberto2 In America, you have lots of opportunities to get out of poverty. Investing is a good way to start, it takes a long time, but is passive, so you can invest and still work. Get another job, start a business, get skills that will increase wages. Your choices keep you poor. Poor people make poor choices that come with poor consequences.
@@fatmonkey4716 you can’t seem to understand basic sociology or social science. Poverty leads to crime. This is established fact. I don’t care about the other stuff you are saying. It doesn’t matter.
I had a look at the comments on the original video...
It's a cesspool of completely backwards think from people who somehow still think Tim "Trump will beat Biden in a landslide" Pool is someone worth listening to.
He is, cope🤣
That’s where the regular well-adjusting working class people are hanging out, you prolly wanna stay over here
@@kawasakithegeneral2367 regular working class people who listen to Tim pool say Donald Trump will win the election in a 50 state landslide? those kind of “regular” people?
@@Radjhitoocool uhh yeah bro that is a 100% accurate characterization. We all know the left is v good at accuracy
@@kawasakithegeneral2367 I can tell you’re a Tim pool fan because you’re immediately denying what he said and arguing semantics
who is the lipless lackey that Tim has on board because he can't possibly take on anyone by himself?
Idk but she bodied that guy's b.s., too. 🤣☠
@@boondocksdragon8959 I didn't think m*rd*r was allowed on YT but I've seen gobs of videos of Emma's double m*rd*r allll over the place w/zero content warnings 😂😂
Emma genuinely was enjoying herself. Omega level.
This is a good time to remind people Tim didn't even go past the first year of high school and very clearly did not grow past that stage
Tim’s background seems like it was generated from ChatGPT.
“The most male background is a guitar next to samurai sword in crossed position with shotgun - combat or double barrel. Art piece in corner - preferably abstract to derive own interpretation and convince others theirs is incorrect.”
How is everybody here completely ignoring the fact that the lady was trying to justify sexually explicit books being pushed on our kids?
The premise was that conservative women are more attractive. Emma not only put Little Black Beanie Boy in his place, she'd never looked better than when she did!!😊
They r more attractive, cope🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22yea marjorie titan greene is a real looker huh
@@ellamayothethird906she is much better looking than most libs which usually have blue/pink hair and r overweight etc. But sure there definitely more attractive🤣
@@maskedentrepreneur22you've never seen a woman outside of Walmart huh?
@@maskedentrepreneur22 Ironic that a cope poster like you would utter the word cope. And of course that considering that the most prominent examples for reichwing women are Blowbert and Perjury Traitor Greene it is most ironic indeed.
i tried so hard to watch the vod of this but i couldn’t get over having to watch the dude with no lips speak
If I were Tim I would've just pretended there was an issue with the audio and trashed the episode. This is so embarrassing for him.
What point did she win?
"The Left" in Ohio proposes an abortion ballot initiative and our conservative state representatives change the rules in an effort to circumvent said abortion initiative.