CONSERVATIVES LOSING IT OVER MY OLD CHARLIE KIRK DEBATE
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- Conservatives are reacting to my old debate with Charlie Kirk and losing there minds
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I forgot about the whole "Nazis were actually socialists" thing. That shit was HILARIOUS. Conservatives actually said that and legitimately believed it was some kind of dunk.
Say* believe* is* 💀
It's not past tense, they still believe it 😂😂😂
What do they think bolshevism is, do they it’s capitalism?
@@pencilwren No that’s Judeo- Bolshevis SORRY I meant Cultural Marxism 🤓
Dinesh D’souza has made a career of making this claim lol
85% of jobs are small businesses 😭😭🤣🤣🤣 Walmart must be a mom and pop operation
And the DOD
it's a family owned business 😂
Hey now, Walmart has feelings!!!
It is a person, don’t ya know….🤣😂🤣😂
@@CapnPink28nah it has more rights
@@ashdog9235 Touché 😉
referring to charlie kirk as “my boy” is possibly the most embarrassing thing i’ve ever seen anyone do
Like of all the right wing talking heads, at least pick a cool one or one with some aura. Charlie Kirk has a face that's way too small for his head and debates teenagers for a living😭😭. But i guess most right-wing kids nowadays can relate cuz of how much of them are soyboys feasting off daddy's money
Charlie Kirk has never owned anyone in a debate, He relies on debating college kids with a prepared list of talking points
and if it doesn't work just call them communist
Get a life simp
@TihetrisWeathersby Says the simp trapped in an echo chamber
This comment read like a rehearsed talking point 💀
Pretty much every conservative does that. They’re so chickenshit to speak with/debate college professors, scholars, historians, scientists, politicians, etc.
Scary to see the alt-right pipeline still being active for a lot of young people. I’m glad Hasan has become a large counter-weight in the RUclips and Twitch sphere
yeah, whether we like it or not. Vaush and Destiny are also helpful in combating the alt right rhetoric.
@@AbysmalEnd I’d agree, Vaush has been doing a great job pointing his base towards activist and volunteer movements. Destiny is alright for tackling talking points but beyond that I hope people move past him when they look for someone to listen to beyond a debater
@@AbysmalEndironic, destiny is just the alt right but vaguely masked under the asthetic of liberalism
@@AbysmalEnd maybe destiny used to be but im not sure as of now. i never watched his content, i did watch vaush like 4 years ago. i think vaush does talk more about social issues and such rather than about more complex stuff so its probably more palatable for someone younger and susceptible to falling down the alt right pipeline. then again kids are dumb, and if hasan wasn't like the punching bag for idiots who don't actually know anything ab his content, i think a lot more people would listen to him over vaush. its proven people are taken more seriously intellectually when they're attractive, not to say hasan is the beacon of intelligence surely
He low key saved me from getting dragged down the pipeline around the time Ukraine got invaded and I’m happy to say that I’m no longer a edgy teen who browses 4chan
Most of Kirk’s points didn’t age well. He thinks this was winning.
Didn't age well? They were already a moldy corpse back then.
@@stormageddon2223or maybe never matured past in utero. which he wouldn’t recognise from a dolphin
Kirk is like a doll where you pull the string on his back and he says one of five easily disprovable lies about communism that have been repeated non stop by american propagandists for over 100 years
The crowd cheering still pisses me off though 😂😂😂💀 why tf would they clap for him 💀
It will have vanished into disintegration in a couple years
The Lasik eye surgery being used by right wingers is absolutely hilarious for a reason Hasan didn't mention. Lasik eye surgery technology was invented by the Soviets LOL.
They also say "Socialism no iPhone" when the soviets invented cellular CDMA communication that is still used to this day
@@trinodot8112 and most iphones were made in communist China, lmao!
It’s also famously shit now!!!!
I had such surgery for both eyes 8 years ago and if I check same places I checked before, free market didn't decrease prices at all, actually some went up, actually. Kirk is full of $#!+
@@rdavieeeHow????
We throw away food before it even reaches markets. Trucks leaving plants are full of processed food go directly to land fills. It's truly disgusting.
Another favorite of supermarkets is faking that they recycle and compost food waste...they don't, they just collect the bags and throw it right into the overprotected trash compactor. Never understood why most supermarkets refuse to sell reduced-price food that is near expiration.
This is insane; I had no idea. Could you point me to some reading?
Commercial food businesses also throw away a lot of leftover food after hours too. It's a real waste.
@@lemonsgalore93 it happens with so much more than food too. I worked at some retail clothing stores and when there was a slight stain on a shirt or just something that was considered "wrong" it would be thrown out with the garbage. Really sad cause some im sure can even wash out or be donated (hell some i would have taken but company policy meant you could lose your job for taking clothes from the garbage). these companies would rather waste their product than letting one of the "poors" get their hands on it for free
@@zacharyguesmia3083 logically thinking, in a capitalist system, a business who throws away profit rather than selling it goes bankrupt. Unless this person is referring to the great Chinese famine brought on by communist and socialist policies
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
A guy got a piece of metal in his eye, a doctor saved it by slicing a small amount of the lens and afterwards the patient recovered and his eyesight was slightly better. This would eventually lead to lasic and this happened in the Soviet Union. Pretty sure Kirk doesnt know this.
That occurred when I was a teenager, I've watched the development of this treatment. Near-sighted since childhood, I still wear glasses because nobody I've met who got the surgery was happy with it. It's just been sold very well.
bro 1 mill views in 2 days on an 8 year old debate where you offer barely any commentary at all, being a conservative grifter is so easy
they told me u can't print money but obviously someone lied
I love that the “reactor” of the original video is just a still image of himself looking in the corner 😂
Half way of the video I already forgot that this was somebody else’s reaction video 🤣
Trying to make his most serious faces like he’s listening to a pastor too 😭
Omg 😂
You know, for the side that loves to go "Facts before your feelings", they sue to love Charlie Kirk getting emotional when he couldnt produce any facts besides his emotions
When the opposition is emotional it's to mask their lack of evidence, when the guy I like is emotional it just shows how passionate they are.
"Facts don't care about your feelings*"
* = only mine.
He truly does live like a capitalist, every single day
you didnt watch the debate then
@@TCS266lies are facts kiddo
Every conservative talking point has already been disproven, most often by simply citing conservative actions.
True lolz
Yet it never matters and they get more of a say than educated people. This can be seen in the fact that they make up less than half the population yet are catered to more than half the time.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I am not a leftist but to say the main point of conservatism is to use "facts and logic" to counter leftist talking points is not worth. Specifically,they look for those who don't make the best intellectual arguments and are easy targets. Conservatism is more about thinking they are smarter and logically more consistent than actually having solutions to problems. Even if you hate nationalism with a passion, it has a spine. Whenever conservatives come close to having any type of backbone, they run away in fear. Having principles and being confident in your views to make a positive difference are completely different.
That's the greatest shame of capitalism is that those 7 million starving children are starving while there's an over abundance of resources; food, clothing, wealth itself are all being produced in excess and yet children starve to death. We suffer not from a lack of resources but from a lack of just and fair distribution. Almost every single issue we face today can be traced back to capitalism!
Not only the issues, but the technological advancements, too!
@@cartdog3 the technological advancements are the result of industrial growth, and that is not necessarily inherent to capitalism
If you want to go deeper, one of the main killshots against capitalism is the epidemic of mental illness in the youth of this country. How depression, anxiety and suicide is increasing with every new generation. Think about capitalists has no incentives to fix bridges and roads that don't affect the elite. Then realize that any key changes that have every happened in a society, regardless of the ideology, were started by the Youth. It follows then the authoritarian capitalism which runs this country is incentivized to keep the youth docile and weak. To eliminate the biggest possible threat to their power even if it means their quality of life is horrible. Kirk talks about Americans not being in poverty. So what if existential malaise and mental illness is the killing the ability of new generations to thrive.
Why does no one EVER talk about the Great Irish Famine as an example of deaths under Capitalism? Over 1 million people died while the country was exporting hundreds of thousands of tons of food. Make that make sense
it was way over 1 million lol.
Anyways the artificial famine in India was even worse.
The famine was caused by a potatoe disease not capitalism
Why does no one ever talk about the current pandemic of mental illness among the youth that increases with every new generation. Not just depression and anxiety, but attempted suicides. How can our country not be in a state of dying when 1/3 teenage girls are contemplating suicide. Ask capitalists where their monetary incentive is to care bc apparently there isn't one.
What age group tends to make change in society and threaten power structures? The ones that are currently suffering the most.
@JohnLoKie it's not rising as in more ppl are getting mentally ill, it's rising because people are now more inclined to seek treatment unlike a few decades ago where u would have been lobotomised had you not fit perfectly in the wish washy society.
I really hate when people mention small businesses as an argument against the exploitative nature of Capitalism. Their argument is never "small businesses don't exploit people." It is always based on the idea that it's okay when small businesses exploit people because they're smol bean, and exploiting their workers is the only way to truly succeed. While people typically frame this as an argument against the idea that Capitalism is inherently exploitative, it is really an argument that the exploitation inherent to Capitalism is actually a good and necessary thing. They generally don't want to just come out and say that, though, because it sounds completely insane, so they have to pretend they're arguing that Capitalism isn't an inherently exploitative system.
i mean, atleast small businesses can be not or less exploitative. the problem is that they still eventually will either stop existing, get sold to the big business, or became the big business themselves
I was recently recommended some insane black and white footage of some old dude spewing nonsense about how socialism is bad. it was during my falling asleep scrolling time so i can't quite remember what he said but it was something a long the lines of "socialism is social justice which is group justice and therefore not individual justice and that's not justice at all" wtf is that? if everyone has access to the same things, gets the same amount of care, food, wealth, shelter. how would that be bad? it's people that are scared of not being able to exploit their work force anymore. there were people in the comments eating it up too.
@@jeanivanjohnson exactly, best argument they have is that capitalism's earliest stages can _sometimes_ not be _as_ corrupt
@@jeanivanjohnson
They can't "not" be exploitative.
The exploitation happens when the surplus value of labour gets extracted from the labourer.
@@Someone..................... we are talking about small business, you can be both an owner and the only laborer for your business at the same time
6:06
How British colonialism killed 100 million Indians in 40 years
Between 1880 to 1920, British colonial policies in India claimed more lives than all famines in the Soviet Union, Maoist China and North Korea combined.
By Dylan Sullivan and Jason Hickel
There entire argument comes down to
Something something socialism doesn't work
I wonder why famines and slavery and genocides under capitalist countries never count against capitalism to them 🤔
You don't need to counter capitalism with the past when the modern-day form is leading to a massive increase in the depression, anxiety and suicidal tendencies of each new generation. They have no solution or incentive to address this apparently. Capitalism seems more focused on making the 1st world have a higher quality of life. But their insistence on how money solves all problems is their undoing.
Conservatives lose it over hasan breathing
Hasan is just an idiot
I find it funny when people say to "live like a socialist", like they have any idea what that looks like..
That is fine, because I've been criticized for accepting paychecks as a socialist, like making a living is against my beliefs.
Not to mention there isn't really any socialist country in the world that an American can feasibly move to and still live a comfortable lifestyle, whether that be simply cuz of language or ability to pay to emigrate, or the massive amounts of sanctions and MIC-funded wars that have left most socialist nations to struggle. That and the so many so-called "socialists" countries that are really just mixed-economy authoritarian dictatorships
Socialism is when the government does stuff and people give all their money to charity, Communism is when bread lines and 100 million ded. It's very simple really.
They just want you to starve, because they think that's what socialism is. Famines famously never happen under capitalist societies, because starving is not under their definition of capitalism
@@sonole3
Small nitpick but: "Authoritarian" doesn't mean anything as every goverment exerts some sort of authority.
Even "dictatorship" doesn't mean much as virtually every country is a dictatorship, it's either a DotP or a DotB.
The only countries that i can think of that call themselves socialist but actually have a capitalist mode of production would be China, Vietnam and Laos.
@@Someone..................... And even then, countries like China just had to adopt 'socialism with Chinese characteristics' to adapt to their material conditions at the time.
How can our country be great if we have more empty houses than unhoused people and we throw out just so much food but people still starve to death.
Because five people have more money than half the world combined. That's pretty fuckin cool, right?
RIGHT????
@@douchopotamus3755 How can our country be great when every new generation of Youth is suffering more anxiety, depression and suicidal tendencies?
How does raising the income of lower class people beneficial if the rate of mental illness continues to skyrocket among all Americans?
Finally what is the incentive of those capitalists in power to address the failing health of those who would pose the most threat to their power?
As if a Wallstreet hedge fund company or Google/Amazon has any reason to give a shit about any of this.
@@douchopotamus3755 The issue is not that people shouldn't be allowed to make a large sum of money. The issue is the correlation between psychopathy and sociopathy among billionaires. You can't get to that level without screwing average or poorer people on a regular basis. Without using your money to buy yourself out of crime and sketchy situations as well find loopholes.
A person who truly loves their family and tries to treat people will respect will lose the incentive to make more money at some point. Whether that means a million or a few million dollars. To the point where the health and success of their family means they are less likely to act like their taxes being raised equals theft. If we have a cap on the amount of money CEOs can make, it can help perhaps lower the amount of corruption in gov't. But someone who has basically evil and self-serving tendencies and craves power over wealth will never stop in their pursuits.
@@JohnLoKie no, the problem is that too few people have too much money.
@@douchopotamus3755 We agree.
i'm cryinff. this guy really used a 2021 article to "debunk" your 2018 statement and thought he did something
HOW did he not see the date of its publishing??🤣
Simple, they don't care. They just exist to "own the Libs"
And he spends most of the video in the corner smiling in 40 Year Old Virgin pose
it's so dishonest it's painful, and people actually eat this shit up
Conservatives are not sending their best!
@@TankNinjaMage you guys elected Joe Biden LMAO
@@aidanelligott562 Would have been a great own if you didn't elect bush and trimp lololol
@@aidanelligott562 babe, who is “you guys” 😂 I can promise you, no actual leftist remotely likes Biden
@@em.vanegas Literally, we (for the ones that do vote for Biden on the left) only choose him because he's the better option of the two. It's like choosing to eat a McDouble out of the deep recesses of your fridge (Biden) over a McDouble out of the dumpster (Trump). Like both suck like shit but at least one ain't covered in flies and trash
Dude probably thinks Joe biden is a communist
I saw the thumbnail for this video and kept skipping it because I watched that debate when it happened and I thought I was being recommended a really old video
small face beta male vs alpha normal sized face male
big head small face beta vs small head big face alpha
alpha normal sized face but smol head male 🤏💪
Omfg I'm glad someone else notices it. His proportions are so weeeiiiirddd
The guy isn't even reacting to the debate, he's just looking at the screen. Hasan's actually engaging with the video in a way thay constitutes fair use while he just sits there blank face. Right wing grifting is a fucking gold mine
Holy shit! Charlie Kirk was INSUFFERABLE! All he did was yell, talk over Hasan, not let him get a single word in because he couldn’t shut tf up for two seconds to let Hasan make his point. Then at the end, makes himself look like a complete idiot losing his mind at some random guy in the audience. How can anyone watch that and say he destroyed Hasan? Lmao. Charlie Kirk destroyed himself.
Welcome to debating the right wing. Where they drag you down to idiocy beat you with experience and then make a million clips they use to brainwash the masses. Straight up why there's no point in debating. It is not the vehicle for finding the truth but since everyone in this country is stupid.
> Learn your talking points
> Polish your rhetoric
> And get ready to mud wrestle some hogs
It's uncanny how dude has no hair on his face but his neck is fucking COVERED
I haven't watched much of Charlie Kirk, but it seems like he gets ahead in debates by not shutting the hell up for more than five seconds.
Yeah capitalism is only "supposedly" inherently exploitative. It's not like it's based on the exploitation of people's labor or something, that would be crazy.
At what point does the rising mental illness of the youth in this country count as something they need to ignore for exploitation of their labor?
conservatives bigger fans than me because I had completely forgotten about the Charlie Kirk debate, they really keep you rent free in their heads
It’s so funny/sad his audience won’t even do the basic fact check that would disprove one of his main arguments. They’ll just take his word and move on to the next right wing clickbait.
Having more people in the labor force is not something to brag about. In a world that makes sense, shouldn't labor be decreasing over time with improved technology? Shouldn't labor be at an all time low? Instead we're working more than ever before.
That's because capitalism locks society's resources behind a paywall designed to make rich people richer. It doesn't matter how much technology improves, we still have to sell our labor to make money and gain access to those resources. This forces us to work multiple jobs and make up jobs that otherwise wouldn't exist.
More people in the labor force is a good thing. More time spent per person in the labor force is a bad thing. We want everyone to have jobs and no one to have to work 40 hour weeks
@@Zoinks3245 you want slaves
Shouldn't mental illness be decreasing and not rising exponentially among the youth? Or is that not a part of "quality of life" under capitalism.
I love the 100 million number. And how they count Nazis as "socialist"
People that call the Nazis socialists are so close to holocaust denial
Nazis were not socialist lol
Anyone familiar with the Gish gallop? It's a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm an opponent by abandoning formal debating principles, providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments and that are impossible to address adequately in the time allotted to the opponent.
This is what Kirk does.
It’s also called shotgunning
There has to be a solution to this that doesn't involving stapling their mouth shut
I genuinely didn't know Charlie Kirk was still a recognizable name to Gen Alpha
It's kinda sad. He's gotten so much wilkes brother dark money and still feels irrelevant
As someone who used to be right wing, I remember his story well. He was a hardcore libertarian with beliefs even worse than in this debate before Trump came along. So he was a never Trumper who eventually had to change bc it was not profitable for him to be that way. His problem is his originally stupid ideology is still present in his fake new one. The only reason Turning Point seeks to represent the current mainstream Trump conservatism is because that is the common ideology of the right wing youth today. It would go out of business otherwise. This also explains his reliance on gotchas and unresearched talking points. Whenever Turning Point goes after leftists, they focus on the easiest targets that really aren't politically educated.
Small businesses haven’t employed 85% of the workforce since like 1900. In 2018 it was 47.5% and the latest information I could find about today is it’s shrunk to 46%. Small business will continue to decline and Charlie Kirk has to lie to make a point.
I refuse to believe that the man in this video didn't realize he was pulling from a 6 year old video and a 3 year old article. He really thought he was gonna get away with some manufactured gotcha moment.
Bro is the human internet explorer with how delayed his reaction to all that was lmao
at the time Hasan's salary wouldn't even cover my student loans lol
steamrolling and refusing to let the other guy speak is not "obliterating"
"Today is Friday? Well you said it was Thursday yesterday so I'm gonna have to say it's still Thursday buddy 😂"
That blob in the bottom left barely even reacted, just reuploaded some old ass content
I'm sure the "Hasan steals content!" crowd will point that out. Lol
Man I hate the HasanAbi Industrial Complex for already making me watch an excerpt of this and thus potentially stealing a view from the official vid. But worry not, I'll play it in the background with the tab muted o7
I just avoid those vids when the topic sounds like something the HasanAbi channel is also going to upload.
Just comment for the algo
WOKE Grifter DESTROYED by GIGACHAD FACT SPITTING MACHINE Ben Shabibo in EPIC Debate.
Bro why is this goofy ass shit format is pumped by the algorithm?
That ending shows me one thing. It shows me that Charlie Kirk wanted so desperately to stop arguing with Hasan because he knew he was getting his back walls destroyed. 😂😂😂 He was looking for any escape from that conversation and when he saw Cenk yelling in the crowd he went for that like it was the last life vest on the Titanic.
“85% of all jobs are created by small businesses.”
That’s not a dunk.. that means if you have less that 500 employees you’re a small business. So duh it makes up the vast majority of jobs.
“Poverty rates have gone lowest in the last 65 years.”
The rates had been consistently falling for 5 years prior to trumps election. Credit to the prior president.
“3.9 million Americans have gone off food stamps.”
Again not a dunk. That figure had already been trending down for years prior to trump.
I'm also wondering if those people got off food stamps because their conditions actually improved or because the program was reduced and its criteria became stricter meaning those people just got their stamps taken away and their lives made worse.
This dude reminds me of the time Ben Shapiro debate lorded John Lennon over the song Imagine. Like you have to pick a fight with someone who cannot fight back.
Lennon didnt participate in the debate and still won
the og video is insane lmao buddy just sat there 80% of the time wiping his nose, and then said the biggest bullshit commentary i've ever heard
They still make memes about the 2016 beanie lady at the Trump victory!
Charlie's entire strategy then was shotgunning, throwing a bunch of wrong, inaccurate, and subjective points at his opponent all at once with conviction, aggression, and shout as if he lacks a microphone.
19:58 Why is this guy wiping his nose like a toddler
Average conservative processing speed is 6 years to make 29 minutes of semi coherent thought
What conservatives think winning a debate is: talking very fast and repeating right-wing talking points regardless of whether or not they are true. Also, don't give your opponent the opportunity to refute your bs.
In order to be a capitalist, you have to believe bribery is for the greater good and accepting a bribe is sinful and immoral.
This is how I found you - the VA funding rant you had was amazing and here I am years later
THE MOMENT WITH CENK I'M DEAD
The chatter saying this guy is sssniperwolf but for commentary killed me 🤣
Dude literally self dunked on himself by posting that video 😂
It's awesome that you said directly what you believe in. I'm very grateful for this honesty. I like honest people who are socialists.
Free Palestine! And free the world of capitalism!
Can someone remind me that Charlie Kirk wasn't the guy who wanted to abort dolphin babies cuz he couldn't tell the difference between that and a human baby?
That's him
Literal pigeon chess
From india and listening to you bro i have to keep searching about all this shit you're like a fucking teacher learning alot thankyou i guess .
I've been so productive today 🌸✨(reporting bot comments under hasanabi videos)
I love when they start crying how RUclips keeps deleting their comments 👀
Reps living 10 or more years behind the rest of us as always lolz
What’s blud yapping bout
20:35 *conservative watching this after 2 presidential cabinets and a cost of living crisis* wait Hasan Piker makes less money than me
True American Hank Pecker DOMINATED tiny-faced man in that debate.
21:49 Amazing... You can actually see kirk's face shrink when he gets mad... Wait! Is THIS when it started?! Hasan, what did you DO?!
I don‘t know why Hasan said LASIK itself was developed by the Soviets, I think it was developed in Columbia. However, as far as I know they commonly use Excimer lasers which were first proposed by an Austrian communist and then later developed by Soviet scientists.
So the laser itself for sure was a state funded invention.
Radial keratotomy was discovered in the USSR in the 70s, the laser aspect was refined mostly in the US in the 80s.
there were a few times I thought the guy reacting in the bottom left was just a still image lmfao
Rightwing brainrot is evergreen
9:57 The deference is Stalin didn’t create any famines they happened cuz of natural disasters while capitalist famines happen cuz of the profit motive
"Let me get six years to figure out a retort and make a SLAM and OWNED video about it"
This RUclipsr actually makes a great Point even though it goes against the right's talking points. The fact that on a 60 K salary you'd have to save for 50 years not spending a dime just to buy a house. And 3 million can only get you a moderate house in some areas. Also 60k is around $28.85 an hour which is over double the average minimum wage
Incredible that guy literally argued that famines are not caused by lack of food, which is caused by design of the current capitalist system we're living under. Even his attempted spin can't hide that fact.
“Cuba is awesome.” How is Cuba awesome? Have you lived in Cuba?
Seeing this very obviously botted video and this sweaty conservative doing shower therapy for a video from *2018* is a vibe 😊🚿🌈🍿
MY BOY HASAN
Damn, I've been watching Hasan videos since last week and I've realized I kept getting dumber each day and reading the comments of his supporters approves my point😂
Someone thinks “owning” is keep talking over the other side and not let them speak 😂
Healthcare is good in America, if you have the money. Even with insurance the costs are absurd. I've lived abroad and experienced healthcare in multiple countries without insurance and my out of pocket costs were pennies on the dollar compared to the US. I met a specialist and got an MRI for $50, and I got to KEEP my scans to go and show another doctor if I wanted a second opinion. With insurance here in the US I met a specialist and got a CT scan and it cost me $400. Without insurance I shudder to think. And I didn't' even get to keep my scans.
I love it, we live in a world in wich content creators called Millionaire Mentor greenscreen themselves to look like they live in a penthouse are called Millionaire Mentor and have poor greenscreen quality. I mean, pay someone a million to do a better job than you or just show your actual penthouse, lmao.
I like the allusion chuck kirk did that nazis were socialists...
"Dachau was one of the first concentration camps built by Nazi Germany and the longest running one, opening on 22 March 1933. The camp was initially intended to intern Hitler's political opponents, which consisted of communists, social democrats, and other dissidents" wikipedia
10:08 “those famines? Not because of Russia being fuck ass cold, not because of the low amount of arable land no it was because of the economic system obviously”
the famines were due to miscalculations, and the fact that the farmers ended up burning the crops in retaliation to more crops being allocated to urban areas. regardless, afaik im pretty sure there was no mass famine post 1947
I like the part where Charlie said insurance brought down the price of healthcare when the opposite is true. They just tell objective, obviously lies and people eat it up like, "Yeah that's true," instead of, oh I don't know, doing their own research.
3:29 sleeve wipe like a toddler lmaoo
that 85% of jobs are small businesses was a talking point left over from the fighting about Obamacare, and I don't think it was even true then.
best I can tell with some googling, right now (or last year) less than half of private-sector jobs qualify as small business, and that's probably doing some fudgy math with what's considered "private-sector" and "small business". like... if your city used to have a robust Parks division, but now most of that is done by private contractors? yes, those are technically private sector jobs, but they didn't USED to be.
13:23 Kirk is using the strategy of using basic arguments and grievances with the current system, and randomly, stating as sort of a way to establish dominance in a debate
4:39 OH NO, HASAN IS GOING FOR ANOTHER NEW YORK TOWER????!?!???!?
only thing getting destroyed was the audio quality
Debates like this are so stupid because all you have to do is point to the highest quality of life nations on earth. Show what makes their standard of living so good. And the answer is always the same: STRONG SOCIAL/INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS.
“Is North Korea not democratic?”
It’s the “oh no he’s stupid 😧”
Over half of jobs are now from corporations and not small business. In 5 years, that’s a pretty huge difference
So much of the argument for capitalism consists of confusing it with having an economy in general. Kirk repeatedly says that "capitalism" and "free markets" are the reason things get cheaper and more available. But that's just a truism: any time you raise the scale of production and development of a technology it necessarily becomes less scarce. In a market-based society, that means cheaper and more available. They just ignore the qualities of capitalism actually unique to capitalism and give it credit for basic economic realities. How do the unlimited property rights, labor exploitation, and anti-democratic institutions inherent to capitalism help according to them? Basically just based on circular logic. The capitalists are the ones given all the resources and control in our society, therefore they deserve credit for anything good about our society.
12:14 we don’t live in a mixed economy
He looks like the undecided voter from the washington post short
Ah yes, a 3 million dollar mansion with that 60k salary. You're advocating for socialism yet you got rich off of capitalism. What a hypocrite you are.
he says a million times in the video he was making 60k back in 2018 which is when the video took place
@@LinKubPin Believe what he says without research just like the rest of you sheep and you will stay ignorant. Learn to think for yourself.
@@TheMERC222just because you got rich from a system doesn't mean you have to be a fan of it lmao
Also, how much money did Hasan make in 2018 then?
@@ClaspedDread It is hypocritical to criticize a system and glorify another while getting rich off the system you hate. That's like a just stop oil rioter owning a refinery; complete hypocrisy. Hasan bought his 3 million dollar mansion and 300k car among other things in 2021, so that's only 3 years after the year he said he made 60k a year. So out of no where he just makes 3 million?
@@TheMERC222 so first of all thats not like that at all. we all live in a capitalist world where no true form of communism exists. We're allowed to criticize that while still making the best of what we're given. You can't expect him to go homeless as a form of protest. Second of all I don't think you have any idea how social media works. 3 years is not a crazy short time to have a major salary increase, people blow up fast. Lastly idk if you're just a kid or if you've just yet to make any form of major purchase but he would've taken out loans to pay for his house and car. He didn't just suddenly make 3 mil a bank decided he was making enough that he'd eventually be able to pay off 3 million dollars over a long period of time so they loaned it to him.
Hasan if you’re a real socialist you should give all your money to me and I’ll get myself soup from a kitchen. I’d never go hungry again. You know how much soup I could get with $60,000? Smh
Conservative hindsight is, "It could have been worse"
Conservative foresight is, "It will be worse"
Conservative enablism is, "It can be worse"
By “destroys” he means didn’t let Hassan talk during the entire debate so it looks like he’s winning