A Championship Wouldn't be Enough to Make Jalen Brunson a Superstar | THE ODD COUPLE
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker discuss if there's any way Jalen Brunson could be considered a superstar at this moment.
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Brunson wins a championship = Not a superstar
Edwards after winning 1 series in his career = Bonafide superstar
😂😂😂 but it’s not hating according to them
It’s a personality & playstyle difference whether it’s fair or not
@@z-mane1438 They fell in love with Edwards aura + rob and chris has always ripped on the knicks cus their fans hype them up despite lack of championship success
Yeah I have the same problem with it lol
@@z-mane1438Yeah, play well and winning has nothing to do with it. They decide and detrrmine who are "superstars". What happens on the court has little or nothing to do with it.
@@17thNO I’m just letting you know how it is lol jimmy butler did wonders while in miami and he’s not considered a superstar
It's pathetic the amount of hate they have for Brunson at this point. They just sound stupid
Yeah I agree
He’s not a superstar respectfully
Kyries better than him
@@Big_AL_Nowitzki facts
You watched the game tonight?
Even if he won a chip without 3 starters he’s not a superstar…Rob out here sounding like a whole crack head.
😂
They think athleticism means superstar
@@cantbecanceledpodcastwhich goes to show you why European or basically any top players from other countries are kicking the a** of the US players
Not even a Brunson fan but this cap
So Brunson isn’t a superstar, but we’re calling Devin Booker, Anthony Edwards superstars?? Oh okay.
you mean Kobe Booker
@@Anthony-id6gu Kobe Lite.
booker not edwards are superstars..only 7/8 superstars in the league
Those are some good players now😎
They really don't like this guy
@77amitd facts. Nba teams are nba teams. You shouldn't be discredited because of who u play. And if he wins a ring he should go into next season as the top guard. Clearly hating
If a champion won't then why TF is Jayson Tatum talk the way he has been talked about in media terms
True but Tatum has a way longer resume this is the first year post season where Brunson is leading his team to glory
Tatum has been to the finals and is consistent I don't see Tatum as elite but he's better than most.
5x ECF
2x 1st team all NBA
Multiple time all star
🤷♂️🤷♂️
No comparison to Tatum
They going hard and saying the east is easy but completely ignored that when LeBron was in the east
😂😂😂that’s their favorite argument idk what you been watching
@@ISweat392lol no cap
@@ISweat392 Yep. Everyone was calling it the Least when LeBron was there.
What are you talking about? Both these guys, especially Rob, will talk about the weak East
Uhmmmm Rob & Skip love bringing that up whenever they talk trash about Bron 😂
If dude won NEW YORK a championship he’d emerge as the 2nd biggest star point guard behind Steph overnight
Regardless he is second to steph
He’s arguably better than Steph rn. Brunson made the Knicks 2nd in the East with more injuries than GSW. Steph couldn’t even make the playoffs
@@tjleaf3510c’mon ain’t nobody taking Brunson over Steph
@CtrlDGame Right now I’d take Brunson over steph , steph is 36 Brunson is 27 🤷🏻♂️
@@irvingzeistman9828Facts
This is the worst take I’ve heard. You ninjas is trippin fr
Yes it would are you nuts? If this dude carries them to a ring over Denver he won’t be a superstar? These two need to be put in journalism timeout. My gosh.
Y'all just reaching now on Jalen Brunson. KNICKS 4 CLICKS
Hold that L
Knicks in Cancun!
This is the dumbest take I’ve heard all year and I’m not exaggerating
So Jalen doing what Luka, Embiid, Harden, Westbrook, Tatum, Booker, Butler, Dame, Shai and Ja (to name a few) haven't done in leading their team to a title isn't good enough to join them as superstars? So it's just a celebrity thing based on hype from the media? What is with this level of gatekeeping?
Brunson has been the driving force of this team. All throughout these playoffs he's been the best player in the every series and is one game away from making it to the ECF something a former MVP in Philadelphia hasn't done yet.
Jalen will now be playing the Cavs in the Cancun Eastern Conference Finals
If the Knicks won the chip Brunson would be an INSTANT superstar
.. No doubt
Wrong
@@jonathanlopez3315 ok pal
You mean to tell me that if he brought a Championship to knicks he's still not a superstar???? Yeah y'all must be on something
He won't, but if Brunson and the depleted NY Knicks win a Championship while he's dropping 45 left and right, he is absolutely a superstar!
Donavan Mitchell is NOT better than Brunson at all , Brunson outplayed him two straight years in the playoffs in 22 and 23 and had a better year this year
I can not visualize how the Knicks would win a TITLE, the Knicks first in over FIFTY YEARS, and Brunson would not be a superstar!
I watched the whole video just to make sure it wasn’t clickbait. It wasn’t. STRAIGHT HATE. At least Brou basically admits it. Nothing to do with facts “i dont feel it in my bones” which means ignore the data ignore whats happening in front my face. I go with my feelings
I'm commenting and haven't watched the clip. If Jalen Brunson wins a chip he'll be a superstar in NY and that's the only place he needs to be superstar.
yup. im from philly and ever since he decommited rom temple university (verbal commit) and went to nova Brunson has been a throne in my side since. ONLY because i wish he was a Temple guy hahaha. hes a great player to watch. and if he brings NY a title he will be enhrined. like you said thats all that matters
@@Anthony-id6guthat’s interesting to hear . I would have thought of Nova as a school Philly fans think of as their home team.
@@schuylersavage276 some do some don’t because it’s outside the Philadelphia zip code. But don’t get me wrong many Philadelphians still like nova. I just happened to be a Temple University alum. So when Brunson didn’t follow in his father’s footsteps and go to Temple( rumor was he was gonna go and his dad was gonna be assistant coach. But after allegations against his dad temple pulled the offer) and went to nova instead… then brought my schools rival two titles 🥲
Brunson carrying the Knicks
Without 3 starters,
And Bojon Badonavic.
Exactly. Their takes are ridiculous
@@oneshot1824 he is not a superstar. He has been an all star once
Exactly. He's put up big numbers on top of that.
@@brian6816 popularity contest. That's all the all-star game is. That is a weak argument.
@@brian6816he has been leading his team for only 2 years. He had to play behind luka
He's like 2001 Allen Iverson if he gets this team to the Finals
Then gets torched. Great.
He isn't winning squat.
He can't defend he flops worse than lebrick and is a ball hog.
lol hell nah ai played against way better competition that year
ive used this Analogy before just comparing the their team and scenario they are in. they arent the same type of player tho
Yall need to give Brunson his flowers. He’s a superstar.
I agree
No he is not. Scoring a lot of points on a mediocre team does not make you a superstar. Being a consistent championship/mvp player does. Brunson is neither.
He is most certainly not a superstar. If that the case than so is Trae young
😂😂😂😂 anybody a superstar these days
No he ain't, u clowns listening?
These two senior citizens be hatin 😂
This makes zero sense lol come on now
If Brunson was flashy like kyrie or curry yall would be calling him a superstar
or if he was better
kyrie is not a superstar
If Brunson did this for 5 years he would be a Super Star.
U😂
Have rob ever dribble a basketball before
😂
But y’all give KD all the credit for joining a 73-9 team winning 2 rings with them even thoe they won without him told him to leave we gonna win without u again and they won without him again NOBODY TELLING BRUNSON TO LEAVE THE KNICKS!!! And KD is the “superstar”
shut up 😂
@@mccainbros7745😂😂😂
Kd was a superstar in KD though. He was a MVP, Scoring champ...
KD was a MVP and a top 5 player before the Warriors. He was also a 2 time Finals MVP on that very same team and cooked Lebron who they just lost to. Scoring 40 against the Pacers and getting traded to the Knicks isnt top tier.
They become fools. Brou with nick wayy too much deluded him. Used to be decent media guy. Funny how things change
This is pure hate lmao. Brunson bringing a Chip to the KNICKS! With all these injuries. Cmon yall
Dorito chips?
Brunson doesn’t make these 2 tingle, that’s what it boils down to.
Rest in Peace Kevin Samuels
I don’t normally write, I just listen to y’all because I love the show but this was one of the dumbest opinion takes I ever heard y’all do in the history of this show!! You telling me Jaylen Brunson can win a chip beating most likely Boston and Denver and not be a superstar??? WTF????? Yall sound crazy as hell!! Smdh
If. And if, Brunson carried a bruised and injured Knicks to a Chip he would be doing what Melo could never do. But Melo was a Superstar but Brunson is not?
yall got a heat fan defending a Knick smh…. if brunson beats BOSTON and DENVER he’s a not a superstar? take their mics away smh
Brunson wins a championship, he’s a superstar
He won't and he isn't.
The only people who can call a player a superstar are that players' teammates and the opposing teams/players in the league. Clearly, JB gets that respect with the amount of double and triple teams he's getting on a nightly basis (for a small guy) and the trust his teammates and coaches give to him by allowing him to take control of the offense 90% of the time. These oldheads use MJ as the standard for a superstar. They dont even understand JB's ordeal in trying to get all these wins - 6'1, not very athletic, no all star teammate, severely depleted roster. If he wins the championship, for me he's the best Knick ever and one of the best to ever play the game. And I am a Mavs fan
This man never lets Rob talk
Do you guys realize knicks don’t have their 3 key players and still whooping ass, that boy Jalen a Killa 4real
Brunson was easily the best player on the Knicks one year ago today. The playoffs were when everyone finally accepted that, even though a lot of us knew it from way earlier in the year.
So they say the Knicks shouldn't get past Pacers but if Brunson leads them to the trophy and he wouldn't be a superstar. Clowns
"No disrespect" allows Rob to be as disrespectful as possible it seems.
Brunson is averaging 40 in wins and dragging this Knicks team which a superstar like Carmelo couldn’t do
Brunson cooked Trae Young Dame Lillard, Donavon Mitchell and Tyree Maxey.
Wheelchair hoopsters can cook Trae.
Lol none of these guards can defend to save their lives
If Jalen Brunson is not a superstar after winning a championship neither should Kawhi be.
no, kawhi is a superstar when he plays
Chip a definitely make him a superstar.. getting knicks a chip a be big like Bron in Cleveland
Why does Brunson need to get 27 and 8 next year and win in the playoffs to be a superstar but you have Donovan Mitchell as a superstar lol
They just wanna be right about him not being a difference maker when he got to NY. They hate being wrong and can't bring themselves to admit it. As long as he's a star in NY fan base screw everyone else. SMH
Sports media and its arguments are tangled in Christmas tree lights
It’s amazing how these guys give you the reasons he would be a superstar and still fix their mouths to say otherwise. So lemme get this straight, if he wins a championship going thru Boston in the ECF, and probably, potentially the Nuggets in the Finals doing what he’s doing WITH a bad foot and WITHOUT having an all star teammate(Randle been out since before start of the playoffs) something we praise Jokic for being able to do even tho Murray is definitely an all star level player, he still wouldn’t be a superstar?!! Shiiii…. Y’all buggin.
They are selling this point hard, only 2 idiots with this narrative
They need to put some respect on Jalen Brunson's name, he is a flat out hooper , 'nuff said
These guys vote on the mvp and argue why he not mvp yall voting him out for ur argument to work
Right now Brunson is absolutely better than Durant! If you switched them KD would get swept by the Pacers!😂
Rob is right! The term Superstar is thrown around way too loosely. There's only a handful of Superstars.. Nobody is saying you're not great if you're a star, but Superstars are the elite of the elite.
I only count about 7/8
lebron, curry, kd, giannis, jokic, luka, kawhi (healthy), embiid
@brian6816 I would add Anthony Edwards & possibly Ja Morant too, but other than that, I agree with your list. Wemby will be the best player in the league sooner than later tho lol.
@@infinitewisdom7777Wemby is a poor man’s Durant. If he’s not shooting over 50% then his buckets will go to waste… while the pace the Spurs play at is too fast for his defense to mean anything.
The Brunson hate is crazy. That boy is a superstar. Putting the team on his back!!!
Goat James haters becoming jalen bunson haters
I’ve never seen the media go against a player being g a superstar like they do Brunson . I mean he’s not calling himself that brother is his teammates or coach . So why keep creating segments about it
He wouldn’t be a superstar he would become a LEGEND!
I guess it pays to hate on the Knicks 😂😂😂
If knicks win a ship this year Brunson could retire then and there and be a legend
Too bad it's not gonna happen lol
Brunson has to cure cancer and stop the wars in the middle east to be a superstar.
So now you have to be an MVP to be a superstar?Got it.According to Rob winning a championship doesn’t make you a superstar winning an MVP does
I don’t even care but to say if he won the title he wouldn’t be a superstar is outrageous all the players who’ve won titles recently have validated superstar status with a championship
AND THEY TALK ABOUT BRUNSON LIKE HE JUST CAME OUT OF NOWHERE HE DID WIN A COLLEGE CHIP AINT HE
he won two as well! 2016 and 2018 (soph and senior yr). they are crazy
They’re too undermanned to do it, but if they did win the Finals you have to call Brunson a Superstar. Only players who can say they’ve lead their team to a chip is LeBron, Steph, Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic and KD (depending on if you count him).
wtf are these guys talking about? Now your judging if the ring is a fluke? So Boston winning the chip will be a fluke then right?
The problem with them is that they give the title to superstar to other folks that haven’t hit the same marks that they want Jalen to hit. SMH.
Super Star is not just winning a ring, Super Star is also multiple years of excellence. Even if KD had never won a ring he would still be a Super Star. Luka is a Super Star without any hardware. At any moment against any team he takes the game over and looks like the best player on the court. Can you honest say Brunson would average 40 against the Nuggets or average 30 next season? I guarantee you with watching a single NBA game next season i can tell you Luka, KD, Steph, Lebrons and Jokers state line. It's a very good season, most people like myself would just like to see him do it longer.
Next up: A 3-peat would not make Jalen Brunson a superstar.
Im glad to see everyone agreeing this 🧢 as hell chris and rob stop it
In these guys eyes NTN he does can make him a superstar Media is pathetic these days smdfh
This feels like the Brock Purdy discourse. Why does it matter so much if Brunson is a star or superstar, or if Purdy is a game-manager or actually good? What matters is the results on the court and field.
Jalen Brunson is damn near a superstar if not he is already one. Especially if he keeps playing like this and gets better. He’s carrying a knicks team that is depleted of its starting players and still has his team in it. Don’t tell me Donavan is better he outplayed him when he carried the Mavs without Luka and he beat him last year against the cavs
Man, this segment is stupid. Chronicles of Judah has the best definition for a super star. It's an MVP of Finals MVP level player that leads a team to a championship. Currently, we have 2-5 max super stars in the league by this definition. Jokic, Giannis, Curry. The rest either haven't proven it or can no longer do it.
So you felt Kawhi was a Super Star winning his first ring with the Spurs or Iggy with the Warriors? Super Star is not winning a ring, Super Star is multiple years of excellence.
@@enigma13ffNo by the criteria I mentioned. Those two couldn't lead their teams to the finals. Curry led the warriors there. Kawhi did end up proving he was indeed a super star in his 2nd finals run. I disagree with multiple years of excellence because this leads to people calling chokers like Embiid and Harden super stars when they're clearly not capable of leading a championship team.
He's superstar
If the Knicks were to win the title this year, not only would Brunson be considered a superstar by everybody, but both of you would be genuflecting to him and to what a superstar he is.
But, not to worry, the Knicks have gone as far as they are going to go this year.
I dont understand. Isaiah gets credit for being a dominant small superstar, and he wasn't athletic, tall or big either. All he did was lead a team and put the ball in the hole. That's exactly what brunson does.
If Brunson's Knicks were in the west, they would either get knocked out in the play-in or swept( or nearly swept) in the first round.They are just lucky to be in the East. The warriors or Sac could beat them in a 7 game series and no one would bat an eye...and neither of them were even in the playoffs out west...
If he continues is historic playoff run like he has this series and follows that up also in the finals then yes but it can’t be no basic 26 a night
Attach Love's, Rodgers, irving, Luka, yadayada not superstar status chip or not
These two have all these requirements for Brunson but none for Ant Man who im sure they both consider a superstar
They don't pay attention to their takes at all. Chris is like the Pacers should beat the Knicks because of all the injuries, but if the Knicks win Brunson still isn't a superstar, even though he's the only starter still playing and is dragging this team to wins, while other guys like Booker, Embiid, etc. are superstars and can't win with stacked rosters? This is just stupid at this point.
The hate is unbelievable...
There are def two types of fans/viewers in this context. Some fans are base on stereotypes and size and resume, others are about what is happening in the moment, what they are seeing with their two eyes. I wonder if the first type actually watches games. If they don’t it would make sense why they don’t care how well antone is playing, they only care about the stereotypical data that needs to be met to meet their requirements
For me at this point it’s just about how people feel about about a player wether the personality or the swag cause clearly Jalen Brunson numbers are crazy this year not only season and postseason as well and they still make a way to classify him like that .. they are not objective it’s just preferences to me
The fact that he just said if the Knicks win the championship this year, he’s not a superstar because their path was easy? Well, that has to be the dumbest take I’ve heard all year. Because they didn’t have to go through the West and they played teams with injured players? What about all the injuries on his team? I don’t think he’s a superstar yet but if wins it all with that team. Then yes he’s a superstar
Winning a championship in NY would make anyone a megastar lol
With all the talent I'm the West if Brunson led the Knicks to a title he's definitely a superstar. To say otherwise you're just hating
Brunson is scoring 30+ a night in the playoffs! He is a star and of he beats the best in the west he would be super
He will not be a superstar if he wins a ring that's true because he'll be a legend!
KNICKS ARE THE MOST HURT BUT THEY USE INJURIES FOR THEIR ARGUMENT STILL
Yall tripping. Brunson is a superstar.
Not true. He’s a star player. But for him to be a superstar. He has to be the type you make it a priority for example to watch every single game he plays or he’s a top merchandise seller of jerseys. Jus sayin🤷🏿
He would have to do it multiple years the reason Steph lebron kd and some others are superstars is because they do it every year . A lot of ppl have great seasons . Even Bradley Beal averaged 30 b4
I’m not even a Brunson fan but if he wins a chip how the hell wouldn’t he be a superstar ??
Julius is not a proper comparison. He’s hands down the best player on the team, Julius is in the way
I think Brunson is a star, a superstar cross over to popular culture, you don't have to watch wrestling to know Hulk Hogan.
If the knicks win the championship he would definetly enter another realm, New York is the media capital of the world, he would get so many tv appearences on late night television, cameos on tv shows and movies, he'd be headed places, that city is desperate for the knicks to win.
I agree the term superstar is thrown around too much these days but Brunson has done a great job and he still gets barely any love and I’m not even a Knicks fan! 🤣
Loooooool yeah Chris lost me here. So does he need to three-peat? Chris will be the only one saying this
To say if he won the ring, he still wouldn’t be a superstar is laughable. I’m not even a knicks fan. But Anthony is a superstar already, it’s all media driven
I think anyone that knows anything would take Brunson over KD. KD has booker and Beal and can’t make it out the first round and he hasn’t done anything since joining a 73-9 team
Yes, bro, if he wins a championship for New York, he is definitely a superstar.That's the only way If he does not do that no, he is not a superstar. If he puts this team on his back and they end up winning a championship benjamin he is a superstar What kind of question is that😳😳😳