That is the reason I subscribed to his channel. I only pay attention to him talking during walkaround part. Once he starts driving, especially manual cars, I only focus on his hand movements between steering wheel and gear shifter and also his driving maneuver.
This, the new BRZ, Gr86, GTI, GLI, Elantra N, Kona N, Mazda3 turbo, upcoming Miata refresh, upcoming Z, upcoming Integra, upcoming GR Corolla, upcoming WRX/STI, the list goes on.........what a great time to be alive. I wonder if GM/Ford have a little bit of regret for leaving this segment. Thanks for this review!
This is the only car I considered over my GLI when I was getting a car a year ago. The updated SI makes it a serious contender. With the 2022 versions of those cars I'm honestly not sure which one I'd pick. What a great car for such a good price
I would also consider the new GR Corolla if it’s anything like the GR Yaris it’s gonna be a monster. It’s AWD and you can chose how much front wheel and rear whee drive basis it has.
I may wait until the model refresh. This doesn't have fog lights and other options that the Canadian one has, and it sells for cheaper up in Canada too. So, yes. The US version has less options/features for more money. I'm hoping that the model refresh will roll in those added items. That fuel economy sounds very good though!!
Almost perfect. Makes me excited for the Integra, more than I was before. They could directly rip everything but upgrade the front bumper and improve materials and it would be a winner. Anything like 360s, SH-AWD, or heat/vent seats would just be icing on the cake.
I have this Civic Si 2024. It's great if you have kids. I've had many cars, SW20, AE86, Evo X, 90s Sentra, then switched to trucks and Suvs. I had to get a new daily driver and bought a 24 Civic Sport 2.0 automatic trans at first. I returned it for a different Civic, test drove a 2.0 hatchback touring and then my Civic Si. I ended up with the Civic Si, because it reminded me of my Evo X. Not as fast as my Evo X but ride is more comfortable and quieter in this Civic Si. I'm a Toyota fan and wanted the GR86 Trueno but wouldn't work for my small family in the case of emergencies. It's a great daily, good for long drives on freeway, good gas mileage, good sedan body because the HB gets water in the trunk when it's raining. Overall so far I love this Civic Si.
The Civic Si should never be overlooked~ Yes, you have the Honda Civic Type R which is a very sporty vehicle, but I feel like some people do not give the Si the credit it deserves. I've always loved Honda manual transmissions, I think their transmissions are the best in the business, and the Si is definitely no slouch. I just love the Civic lineup in general, and you can never go wrong with a Honda Civic. These things are bulletproof for years.
The 2.4 K-series have proven themselves. On the other hand, these 1.5 engines (same size as the GoldWing motorcycle) have not. As gearheads have been saying for decades: "There's no replacement for DISplacement".
If you close your eyes, that engine can almost sound like a rotary at times, and it looks like so much fun to toss around... suddenly this is high on my list of reasonable dream cars! Also, someone could totally make a beat with the drive mode selector sound like at 3:24
Many reviewers have been so impressed with the 11th gen Si and not as many was on the 10th gen Si. So this must must be no fluke. Will definitely test drive this and can't wait for the new Type R :)
Mr Topher really didn’t sound happy for one second when ever driving the last SI, but many love it. I own the 9th gen, and it is plenty fast. Sheesh, my wife’s 2019 2 liter corolla is fast enough once the CVT catches up to your throttle input. It really depends what you want; the philosophy of what your vehicle needs to be. For many of us, our vehicle needs to be cheap or hold a child’s seat.
I have a 9th gen as well, the K series that can make 500 N/A if you want. (4PISTON also makes a de-tuned version that does 360hp up to 9,000RPM) This 11th gen with it's juiced up 1.5 is going to throw a rod. No way it lasts like a 2.4 N/A, which is why K-swaps are so popular.
Coming from someone who used to drive muscle cars, once I drove a honda/acura manual I never went back. Once I got into a 95' GSR I was sold, that thing was so fun to drive and the shift feel was superb.
The rev hang isn't because of the flywheel, I heard its because of the emission standard. The gas needs fully leave the engine before shifting so it doesn't create excess pollution, meaning that the car automatically will stay on the gas a little before shifting.
Yes, it is primarily there for emission reason. However, it doesn’t happen to higher priced vehicles. It truly shows that u got to pay to play! Lol… Well, I’m driving a 8th gen si and every since I refreshed w hodata the rev hang has been a thing of the past. 👌
You can "tune" out whatever is left of that rev hang. At least to the point of it being barely noticeable. I had a 10th gen SI and factory rev hang was unbearable, I ended up trading it back to dealer. I've rode inside a tuned 10thgen since and can say it's more of an ECU emission thing than a flywheel problem. Not to say a single mass doesnt help.
@hon solo I'm just saying they shouldn't do a cash grab at nostalgia if they aren't going to make it look, feel and drive like the old one. Look at the new Z. That is how you do it. The "Integra" is an Integra in name only. If I put the new Integra in between the ILX and the old Integra, you'd think it was the new ILX all day.
@hon solo You're fooling yourself if you think names for BEV won't be recycled. They will continue to make use of nostalgia and associated heuristics just like the Mustang and Lightning names.
You hit directly on my cross shopping. I have a BRZ on order but this is a such a nice, practical package that really rips in SCCA autocross but can still carry my family on weekdays.
Exactly. BRZ is a true entry level sports car. but this SI has its place for sure. This and the new GLI only options as the Elantra N will be way more $$
@@JFlogerzi People seem to forget about the Elantra N-Line. Same power, really only missing the LSD. But that depends on what the consumer plans on doing with the car. Most will not notice it.
@13:47 Jesus, that's a straight drop down on the right. Props to Topher's POV camera work for capturing all the driving experience! Damn you Honda for not giving us a Si hatch!
The Integra is gonna be the si hatch. Won't be as budget and basic interior so for pure enthusiasts it won't be the same but it's there. I also prefer the more basic interior, cloth seats and less interior options hold up better in the long run.
@@redlinearroyo847 true but I'm not sold on the Integra design yet. If I'm going to be spending 30~35K on the Integra, it's not going to be much of a stretch to go for a Civic Type-R at 40K.
@@eloneatmyshorts yeah but the difference in performance is big from type r to si is big but so is day to day usability. You can't use 87 octane or buy use nornal tread wear tires, the sound insulation isn't as good in a type r, the Integra will probably be much better day to day for less. Depends on what you can live with. I live in a cold town with shitty roads so fatter tires would be nicer and the Integra would just be better for me.
Love Honda for having really good experience driving without high speed. You go 1,2,3 shifts with a lot of good engine noises, and you've got like 60km/h
People rag on this car for being slow - but I see a really quick car navigating those challenging twisties. Wow. At least GTI level. I'm excited with this, GR86/BRZ, new GTI,and the N triad. Wow. Affordable performance finally. Then of course there's the AWD Golf R, new Corolla GR, new Type R and new STI that will turn up the price and the performance wick.
Problem is, the GTI, and damn near everything else at this point, is considerably quicker. We're talking a full second quicker to 60, and 7 tenths in the quarter mile, in the case of the GTI vs. this new Si. 🤷♂️ If the car is marketed towards enthusiasts, acceleration certainly matters. At 28K it's going to be a bit harder of a sale.
@@GoDsSoN770 straight line speed does not matter. The 10th gen type r was slower then every other competitor in a drag race, but was almost minutes faster around the nurburgring and holds the record for the fastest fwd car in that course
Gotta say love love the new 11th gen SI. I would drive this no problem as a daily. With the Hondata FlashPro to give this car a bit of extra juice it would be the icing on the cake :)
@@JFlogerzi sounds good to me! $30,000 is still a lot of cash! And it’s getting harder & harder to buy a new car for under $30,000 especially with the world falling apart now and dealers capitalizing on that. And it’s all unnecessary
I was lucky enough to get mine yesterday, only ended up happening thanks to your recommendation. It'll be my first stick but I'm super excited to learn. Thanks bro!
I wish Honda sold this Si in Europe. I feel like this kind of spec could be very attractive to the average young european family. 6MT, reasonably priced mid-size sedan (for euro standards), with an efficient engine and some sporty vibes to deal with the twisties that are so usual around here. I'm sure they will offer some sort of 'sport' model here but, as for every previous gen, it will be a lot further from the Type R in terms of feeling than the Si.
Great totally drive focused video. I am used to your normal videos where you cover everything including the quality of the audio system from Bose. This was the the soundtrack of the car itself which was great.
I love this car. I come from a heritage of Nissan Z, 3 series, infinity G. The SI walks the line between fun and economical like no other car I've ever had
Phenomenal video. By no means, at this moment I can't afford to buy this car now, but just watched to give me the feeling I needed to inspire my goal and keep going! I was really anxious seeing you driving on those canyons (I'm from Brazil) ... never saw them that close ... lol ... Amazing video and explanations about the little details that Honda have incorporated into the car. Thanks !!
If Honda just made the Si hatchback, instead of the Si sedan, Sport hatchback manual, and Sport Touring hatchback manual; I bet it would sell more of the former than the latter 3 cars combined.
Of course they put you on some great roads to savor the car, as opposed to SE Michigan. Big question: can you really feel a performance difference over a Sport touring with the 6spd?
Reminds me of my old 89 Integra, which was a joy to drive on twisty roads. Topher came close to scaring me on that canyon road, especially where there were drop offs. 😮 Definitely looks like a great car for the next time I'm in the market. Nice review.
It’s so hard for me to go from a nice Acura leather interior to the Si Cloth interior, seems like such a downgrade for me, but honestly it’s the only car I want on the market. Sporty, reliable, manual, cheaper side.
After the last two Si’s being not so great, I am thrilled to hear your glowing review on this one. I’m seriously interested in this car! I miss driving a manual and this might be the perfect answer. Nothing too fussy about it. I wish I could opt out of the red seats inside. Otherwise I’m loving it. Keep up the great work!!
I just watched a Topher video of the 2020 Civic SI and he said it was a great car, always loved them, super handling, awesome shifter "one of the best" some rev hang but it could be tuned out. Now something new comes along and it is "Last two were a miss" Meh. I think the 9th and 10th looked better but to each their own. Peace!
Thanks for putting this video together; the drive makes me miss living in SoCal and the miles and miles of amazing canyon roads. PCH ain't half-bad either!
going to a single-mass flywheel is really good for the new gen, the responsiveness even sounds like it's there. dual-mass can be such a hog, which is why i'm changing the clutch and flywheel on my 10th gen haha
I don't understand why Honda did that in the first place. It can't help with emissions. Doesn't make sense. I'm still rocking my 8th gen Si sedan for now. I like the Accord Sport, but I actually am curious about the new Integra. I really wish Honda would make a dual clutch automatic like some German manufacturers
Glad I found your channel. I hate most car reviews on youtube; most of them are nothing but clickbait and people assing off on camera and acting like a muppet for views. Your video and sound quality are great and really lets me get an idea of what driving the cars you feature are like.
@@siddharthsharma8940 At 35k there are alot of other choices. Granted in this market, a car that was 35k might be 40k. Idk tho, I saw a 22 Veloster N listed for 36k...that car has 75 more HP. 35k for the Si just doesnt make sense and no one should pay that. The Si is suppose to be a sporty car that is AFFORDABLE! a 7k 'market adjustment' is just disappointing
@@equi Right!? when topher said msrp I was like good luck finding one for that. I got a 2020 si new for 25k out the door. You cant find one used with 40k miles for that much now. The car market is horrible especially for new cars. The new civic hatch base is more than my si was. Even at msrp I find the SI overpriced by about 2-3 grand. I would try to wait the shortage out before buying new, these prices are a joke.
Wow I didn't expect that! What a hoot! Very nice sound, and it seems so composed and nimble at the same time. But...here in Europe, we never had the Si version, only 1.5t 182hp and type R, and guess what, with this new 11th gen, we will only get ONE( yes, you read correctly), ONE engine option, and that is a 1.5 n/a engine with hybrid and about 129hp and cvt .Yes, seriously. Thank you green bullshit, you completely killed the car industry.
Yeah I would 100% pick this up if it had the fog lights, heated seats, and indicators on the mirrors the other things aren’t as important to me personally
Hey Topher which would you recommend? This SI or the GR86? They are both approximately the same price here in Canada. No family to worry about, just me.
Wow 🤩 that thing is one sharp looking sedan ! It sounds really great ! Sporty , and economical, really nice blend of everything for sure . It seems very responsive and punchy . I gotta go test drive one right away !
So hondata just dropped a Dyno video and it seems Honda underrated the the Hp and torque. It's makes 222 hp so I guess they did it to make room for the Integra.
Come to Canada, the new SI has both and a full digital gauges display for our version. I don't know why they took them away for the US version though, unless if it is just for the southern states.
Really interested in trying one of these out to see how it feels compared to my 2018 Accord Sport manual (1.5). The Accord isn't bad but there is a disconnect or inconsistency in the clutch and/or engine, which makes it really hard to drive smoothly.
Update…I now have a 2023 Civic Si in sonic gray pearl and it is SO MUCH BETTER than the Accord in every way other than back seat and trunk space, insurance and gas cost 😂
Sooo happy with what I see int he new civic line up in general! looks like a real winner. But if I were in the market, the fact that the SI isn't available as a hatchback would be 100% a deal breaker for me. No available heated seats or heated steering is super sad for a brand new car too. If I didn't have cold weather to deal with, I would just get the GR86 anyway. Of course if you actually need the backseats regularly the 86 is out of the question. Veloster N has the same problem with no heat options, even though the non sporty ones have it. And both cars come standard with heat features in Canada, at a lower converted price. Why do foreign car companies think that we don't have cold weather in the US?! Total rip off. Super and about it. Next time I buy a car I may see if I can go buy it in Canada and drive it 20 hrs back if needed. Sorry, rant over
Okay, let's put cars aside. We have to admit that sometimes it is so relaxed by just watching Topher driving! Excellent driving skill, Topher!
That is the reason I subscribed to his channel. I only pay attention to him talking during walkaround part. Once he starts driving, especially manual cars, I only focus on his hand movements between steering wheel and gear shifter and also his driving maneuver.
@@hananani3518 He drives with such Grace
for sure
I want Topher to walk around my car and review how shit it is
Lmao
This, the new BRZ, Gr86, GTI, GLI, Elantra N, Kona N, Mazda3 turbo, upcoming Miata refresh, upcoming Z, upcoming Integra, upcoming GR Corolla, upcoming WRX/STI, the list goes on.........what a great time to be alive. I wonder if GM/Ford have a little bit of regret for leaving this segment. Thanks for this review!
lets not forget the new type r
GM comes out with an Trax SS lmao.
No regret for them as they are making a killing on high profit trucks and suvs- now selling for MSRP plus market adjustments.
Eh, the new integra isn't all there, but it's still manual, so that's good.
They don't regret it because they couldn't compete.
You can literally hear how good that shifter is. Always loved Honda’s (and Mazda’s) slick shifters.
Yeah man I have owned a 2006 civic now a 2009 mazda 6 and their manual gearboxes are just absolutely spot on. Nobody does it like them
I’ve only driven manual mazdas (na, nb miata) and hondas (cl9 tsx, fk8) … until today. Holy shit my friends Corolla has the worst feeling shifter ever
yea their gearboxes are manual heaven.
its one of the reasons why i will forever love the MX-5s
@@1whitedan great car, fun to drive.
I hear the new Toyota GR 86 shifter is really good too
I feel blessed to wake up to Topher reviewing the new Si 😌
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This is the only car I considered over my GLI when I was getting a car a year ago. The updated SI makes it a serious contender. With the 2022 versions of those cars I'm honestly not sure which one I'd pick. What a great car for such a good price
I would also consider the new GR Corolla if it’s anything like the GR Yaris it’s gonna be a monster. It’s AWD and you can chose how much front wheel and rear whee drive basis it has.
Thee Si 🤝
check out the Elantra N and maybe Mk8 GTI/Golf R
Kristiāns Ozoliņš Elantra N interior is insane
I may wait until the model refresh. This doesn't have fog lights and other options that the Canadian one has, and it sells for cheaper up in Canada too. So, yes. The US version has less options/features for more money. I'm hoping that the model refresh will roll in those added items. That fuel economy sounds very good though!!
13:44 the confidence around this corner is insane 😮
yes
I was going to thumbs up your comment, but it was perfect as is.
Not really.
@@Not_Lewis look to the right of the road to see the outcome of oversteer
Good cornering.
WoW what a fun video to watch! Great job
From the man himself! Thanks Jason, great meeting you at the event.
Woah didn't expect you here! Love your vids too man
Topher drove it like he stole it 😎
Yep... he killed that road. Takes a lot of skill to drive like a boss..... without guardrails!
We're really seeing a little comeback of the driver's cars in the last couple years.
Last hurrah for fans of cheap fun ice cars before they become more of a novelty. Like mechanical watches vs quartz/phone
Almost perfect.
Makes me excited for the Integra, more than I was before. They could directly rip everything but upgrade the front bumper and improve materials and it would be a winner. Anything like 360s, SH-AWD, or heat/vent seats would just be icing on the cake.
AWD would be amazing. Honda seems to keep away though.
No. The integra doesn’t need awd. Tlx already has that.
The integra will almost certainly be fwd
I'm sure the Integra type S will be more like a nicer type R. And thats fine, since the type R is great
Lol, this comment didn’t age well. 40 grand to get the manual, 52k for the Type S.
I have this Civic Si 2024. It's great if you have kids. I've had many cars, SW20, AE86, Evo X, 90s Sentra, then switched to trucks and Suvs. I had to get a new daily driver and bought a 24 Civic Sport 2.0 automatic trans at first. I returned it for a different Civic, test drove a 2.0 hatchback touring and then my Civic Si. I ended up with the Civic Si, because it reminded me of my Evo X. Not as fast as my Evo X but ride is more comfortable and quieter in this Civic Si. I'm a Toyota fan and wanted the GR86 Trueno but wouldn't work for my small family in the case of emergencies. It's a great daily, good for long drives on freeway, good gas mileage, good sedan body because the HB gets water in the trunk when it's raining. Overall so far I love this Civic Si.
Just got mine in sonic gray
The Civic Si should never be overlooked~ Yes, you have the Honda Civic Type R which is a very sporty vehicle, but I feel like some people do not give the Si the credit it deserves. I've always loved Honda manual transmissions, I think their transmissions are the best in the business, and the Si is definitely no slouch. I just love the Civic lineup in general, and you can never go wrong with a Honda Civic. These things are bulletproof for years.
The 2.4 K-series have proven themselves. On the other hand, these 1.5 engines (same size as the GoldWing motorcycle) have not. As gearheads have been saying for decades: "There's no replacement for DISplacement".
Does the si not come in automatic?
@@zachb69 no. 6 speed only and all have a lsd.
@@zachb69 no only manual
@@zachb69 That's a negative. The Si's have always been manuals.
If you close your eyes, that engine can almost sound like a rotary at times, and it looks like so much fun to toss around... suddenly this is high on my list of reasonable dream cars!
Also, someone could totally make a beat with the drive mode selector sound like at 3:24
yoooo call metro boomin he would make some fire as shit with that sound
Yea, maybe if you close your eyes, shut your ears, and scream "LALALALALA", you can begin to imagine it sounds somehow anything like a rotary lmao
Omg it does sound like a low rpm rotary. Weird
Many reviewers have been so impressed with the 11th gen Si and not as many was on the 10th gen Si. So this must must be no fluke. Will definitely test drive this and can't wait for the new Type R :)
gasp* its almost like honda listened to its customers
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1.5 VTEC is like a 4.0 V8 from the 90s ! awsome
Mr Topher really didn’t sound happy for one second when ever driving the last SI, but many love it. I own the 9th gen, and it is plenty fast. Sheesh, my wife’s 2019 2 liter corolla is fast enough once the CVT catches up to your throttle input. It really depends what you want; the philosophy of what your vehicle needs to be. For many of us, our vehicle needs to be cheap or hold a child’s seat.
I drive a 9th gen too. And the interior noises drive me crazy. But I love the K24
I thought he gave the Civic Si here lots of praise and liked the speed.
I have a 9th gen as well, the K series that can make 500 N/A if you want. (4PISTON also makes a de-tuned version that does 360hp up to 9,000RPM) This 11th gen with it's juiced up 1.5 is going to throw a rod. No way it lasts like a 2.4 N/A, which is why K-swaps are so popular.
@@bbartlow0307 it’s not going to throw a rod what are you even saying?
@@bbartlow0307 get your head out of the sand, the future is now old man
Honda never fails to amaze me, this is a really nice car!
Yes, but the 2.0t in it would've been nicer. The Type R interior is too much for me
you are a professional driver and your steering controlling is amazing ,, god save you
Even with a HP drop, I think Honda reworking how the power is delivered is what makes the car better.
Man I love this car love the interior and really love the exterior design looks to me like Real JDM Honda Sedan of Japan from the late 90s and 2000s
Exactly. Looks like a reimagined eg
I'm going to get my brand new Si in 1month (Canadian version). I literally can’t wait to have it!!
0:49 This doesn't get enough appreciation. TheTopher does it again!
Coming from someone who used to drive muscle cars, once I drove a honda/acura manual I never went back. Once I got into a 95' GSR I was sold, that thing was so fun to drive and the shift feel was superb.
Thought this was a smokingtire vid! Great to see you in the canyons.
Just got this in black and I think is my favorite car stock car that I driven.
The Accord Si- I mean the Civic Si is looking pretty good, was never a fan of the last gens look.
The rev hang isn't because of the flywheel, I heard its because of the emission standard. The gas needs fully leave the engine before shifting so it doesn't create excess pollution, meaning that the car automatically will stay on the gas a little before shifting.
I thought they said that the rev hang was going to be gone for this new generation. What a bummer I guess
Yes, it is primarily there for emission reason. However, it doesn’t happen to higher priced vehicles. It truly shows that u got to pay to play! Lol… Well, I’m driving a 8th gen si and every since I refreshed w hodata the rev hang has been a thing of the past. 👌
@@richardzhao792 my 8th gen was one of the few that has no or extremely small rev hang, I was lucky, plus no turbo lag😊
@@richardzhao792 Nice!
You can "tune" out whatever is left of that rev hang. At least to the point of it being barely noticeable. I had a 10th gen SI and factory rev hang was unbearable, I ended up trading it back to dealer. I've rode inside a tuned 10thgen since and can say it's more of an ECU emission thing than a flywheel problem. Not to say a single mass doesnt help.
This is making me hopeful for the Integra!
You mean, the new ILX? That thing they showed wasn't an Integra by any stretch of the imagination.
If you didn't like the type s TLX, you won't like the new integra.
@hon solo I'm just saying they shouldn't do a cash grab at nostalgia if they aren't going to make it look, feel and drive like the old one. Look at the new Z. That is how you do it. The "Integra" is an Integra in name only. If I put the new Integra in between the ILX and the old Integra, you'd think it was the new ILX all day.
@@PotatosPotatoes guess what the ilx is? A rebadged civic. And guess what old integras were? Rebadged civics.
@hon solo You're fooling yourself if you think names for BEV won't be recycled. They will continue to make use of nostalgia and associated heuristics just like the Mustang and Lightning names.
The amount of shenanigans I’ve gotten into on Deer Creek Rd.. Ah, the memories…Lucky enough to have learned how to drive 30 mins from there.
You hit directly on my cross shopping. I have a BRZ on order but this is a such a nice, practical package that really rips in SCCA autocross but can still carry my family on weekdays.
Exactly. BRZ is a true entry level sports car. but this SI has its place for sure. This and the new GLI only options as the Elantra N will be way more $$
@@JFlogerzi People seem to forget about the Elantra N-Line. Same power, really only missing the LSD. But that depends on what the consumer plans on doing with the car. Most will not notice it.
@@JTube571 they have an i20n with the 1.6 and lsd in Europe so they will bring it here hopefully
@@Szcza04 I wish they would, but they are not.
@@Szcza04 I'm in UK and own a 19 brz and have just ordered an i20N 😜
@13:47 Jesus, that's a straight drop down on the right. Props to Topher's POV camera work for capturing all the driving experience!
Damn you Honda for not giving us a Si hatch!
Kinda scary. 😁
The Integra is gonna be the si hatch. Won't be as budget and basic interior so for pure enthusiasts it won't be the same but it's there. I also prefer the more basic interior, cloth seats and less interior options hold up better in the long run.
@@redlinearroyo847 true but I'm not sold on the Integra design yet. If I'm going to be spending 30~35K on the Integra, it's not going to be much of a stretch to go for a Civic Type-R at 40K.
@@eloneatmyshorts yeah but the difference in performance is big from type r to si is big but so is day to day usability. You can't use 87 octane or buy use nornal tread wear tires, the sound insulation isn't as good in a type r, the Integra will probably be much better day to day for less. Depends on what you can live with. I live in a cold town with shitty roads so fatter tires would be nicer and the Integra would just be better for me.
Love Honda for having really good experience driving without high speed. You go 1,2,3 shifts with a lot of good engine noises, and you've got like 60km/h
Probably the single best driver of all the youtube car channels if this dude went F1 I bet he'd win
People rag on this car for being slow - but I see a really quick car navigating those challenging twisties. Wow. At least GTI level.
I'm excited with this, GR86/BRZ, new GTI,and the N triad. Wow. Affordable performance finally. Then of course there's the AWD Golf R, new Corolla GR, new Type R and new STI that will turn up the price and the performance wick.
Problem is, the GTI, and damn near everything else at this point, is considerably quicker. We're talking a full second quicker to 60, and 7 tenths in the quarter mile, in the case of the GTI vs. this new Si. 🤷♂️ If the car is marketed towards enthusiasts, acceleration certainly matters. At 28K it's going to be a bit harder of a sale.
@@GoDsSoN770 straight line speed does not matter. The 10th gen type r was slower then every other competitor in a drag race, but was almost minutes faster around the nurburgring and holds the record for the fastest fwd car in that course
@@gavinmersman4209 It matters to a good majority of people who aren't interested, or never will drive their cars around a track in that manner.
@@GoDsSoN770 I can see where you are coming from. But in an instant like this on a back road it would be perfect
@@GoDsSoN770 people need to stop looking at 0-60. This car is "slower" because it requires a 3rd gear change before 60. It's the gearing.
Gotta say love love the new 11th gen SI. I would drive this no problem as a daily. With the Hondata FlashPro to give this car a bit of extra juice it would be the icing on the cake :)
What would you drive on the weekends ?
@@2004cyrus hard to say. My personally can't afford much past the 30k range. Probably a roadster 2 seater car or a older/used off-road capable SUV
@@JFlogerzi sounds good to me! $30,000 is still a lot of cash! And it’s getting harder & harder to buy a new car for under $30,000 especially with the world falling apart now and dealers capitalizing on that. And it’s all unnecessary
i find it hilarious that even this car would absolutely smoke a hellcat on a road like this
Wow those roads are mind boggling - takes quite a bit of courage!
I think it’s the crest highway in Los Angeles, Ca
I was lucky enough to get mine yesterday, only ended up happening thanks to your recommendation. It'll be my first stick but I'm super excited to learn. Thanks bro!
I wish Honda sold this Si in Europe. I feel like this kind of spec could be very attractive to the average young european family. 6MT, reasonably priced mid-size sedan (for euro standards), with an efficient engine and some sporty vibes to deal with the twisties that are so usual around here. I'm sure they will offer some sort of 'sport' model here but, as for every previous gen, it will be a lot further from the Type R in terms of feeling than the Si.
VTEC IS BACK LETS GOOOOOOOO!
Great totally drive focused video. I am used to your normal videos where you cover everything including the quality of the audio system from Bose. This was the the soundtrack of the car itself which was great.
I love this car. I come from a heritage of Nissan Z, 3 series, infinity G. The SI walks the line between fun and economical like no other car I've ever had
Phenomenal video. By no means, at this moment I can't afford to buy this car now, but just watched to give me the feeling I needed to inspire my goal and keep going! I was really anxious seeing you driving on those canyons (I'm from Brazil) ... never saw them that close ... lol ... Amazing video and explanations about the little details that Honda have incorporated into the car. Thanks !!
If Honda just made the Si hatchback, instead of the Si sedan, Sport hatchback manual, and Sport Touring hatchback manual; I bet it would sell more of the former than the latter 3 cars combined.
Picked a perfect road to do this POV on. Don’t know if the SI is as sick as the R, but still pretty dope.
Where is this road?
@@BeastFromTheEast79 Cali
Two different cars for two different purposes
But each one excels at what it was produced to deliver
@@1anre totally agree.
Interior looks much better!
As a rev matcher, I’m glad to see we have the option to use it or not.
Trophers laugh though🤣🤣 I'm sure that's every1s reaction banging gears through the turns. Great video brotha 💯🙌
Great video! Can’t wait to see you review the new 2022 Subaru WRX and get your thoughts on it. Keep up the great work!
Rev matching yourself is the best part man.
Man, you know its a good day when @TheTopher uploads another banger! Nothing but love, happy holidays mate!
Would absolutely love to see the GR86 now that it’s officially released
And the 86 is NA. Engine isn't quite as refined as a Honda... but the power is there. Rear wheel drive as well.
@@bbartlow0307 definitely
I've been watching this mans content long enough.....SUBBED.
thank you for driving the car the way you did. these other youtubers didnt drive it as aggressive as you did. i loved the video! thank you!
Such a scenic road! I want to drive there someday.
Never clicked so fast. Thanks Topher
Of course they put you on some great roads to savor the car, as opposed to SE Michigan. Big question: can you really feel a performance difference over a Sport touring with the 6spd?
@hon solo if it really made that much power to the wheels, you wouldn’t need a calendar to clock the 0-60 time.
@hon solo weird ososiks dyno guy said like 195 hp 193 tq.
@hon solo This comment is next-level brand fellatio
@hon solo My GLI is 230 STOCK to the wheels and it runs 5.6 second. There’s no way the SI is 230 to the wheels and runs 8 second 0-60 😅😅😅
@hon solo that's on a carb legal tune
Does it come in black?
This actually sounds pretty good! Throaty and muscular low down like my old Saab 9-5. Is there any active exhaust involved?
Yes, it's synthetic
It’s fake
I appreciate the fact that you tap your shoes together before you get in the car lol clean and tidy style
Absolutely Integra-ish. Great review. I can just imagine how similar Integra will be to this SI. Thank you for such a thorough review.
Reminds me of my old 89 Integra, which was a joy to drive on twisty roads. Topher came close to scaring me on that canyon road, especially where there were drop offs. 😮 Definitely looks like a great car for the next time I'm in the market. Nice review.
Oh wow, the interior is actually pleasant and not dreadful like most Hondas! Good job!!
My 2014 civic si coupe has my favorite interior
It’s so hard for me to go from a nice Acura leather interior to the Si Cloth interior, seems like such a downgrade for me, but honestly it’s the only car I want on the market. Sporty, reliable, manual, cheaper side.
Well, the new Integra is basically a luxury Si in case you haven’t heard.
13:45-13:53 i’ve concluded this man is a dare devil with a deathwish 💀
As a 10th gen Si owner who wasn't in love with the styling of my car, I'm disappointed to see a 5hp drop and loss of adaptive suspension.
5 drop on paper but the dyno results show it actually making 10-15 more
Pretty sure +\- 5hp doesn't make much of a difference
Việt Nam mong chờ Civic từng ngày🥰🥰
After the last two Si’s being not so great, I am thrilled to hear your glowing review on this one. I’m seriously interested in this car! I miss driving a manual and this might be the perfect answer. Nothing too fussy about it. I wish I could opt out of the red seats inside. Otherwise I’m loving it. Keep up the great work!!
What do you mean? The 9th and 10th are both great cars.
Last two Si’s were a miss for me too, this one is up there with the best of them imo!
@@TheTopher but is it worth 4k+ more than the 2019/2020? Emphatically no.
Ya the red seats are a little much what are they burgundy color? I can't tell and the red si stitching on the headrests gets lost in all the red
I bought my 2016 Honda civic for $19,500, $22,000 out the door. Best purchase of my life!
this is much better than the previous gen Si
Just got mine today. Came with 6 miles on the odometer.🎉 Such a fun car to drive.
Who else got car sick? 🤣 Topher out here doing some touge racing 💯
I made myself a bit car sick 😂
You guys wouldn't like riding in my Elantra Sport on my local touge. lol
I just watched a Topher video of the 2020 Civic SI and he said it was a great car, always loved them, super handling, awesome shifter "one of the best" some rev hang but it could be tuned out. Now something new comes along and it is "Last two were a miss" Meh. I think the 9th and 10th looked better but to each their own. Peace!
Simple and great design! It looks amazing! Great review man!
This guy knows how to drive bravo 👏
Awesome review! Keep up the great work 👌
Thanks for putting this video together; the drive makes me miss living in SoCal and the miles and miles of amazing canyon roads. PCH ain't half-bad either!
going to a single-mass flywheel is really good for the new gen, the responsiveness even sounds like it's there. dual-mass can be such a hog, which is why i'm changing the clutch and flywheel on my 10th gen haha
I don't understand why Honda did that in the first place. It can't help with emissions. Doesn't make sense. I'm still rocking my 8th gen Si sedan for now. I like the Accord Sport, but I actually am curious about the new Integra. I really wish Honda would make a dual clutch automatic like some German manufacturers
Glad I found your channel. I hate most car reviews on youtube; most of them are nothing but clickbait and people assing off on camera and acting like a muppet for views. Your video and sound quality are great and really lets me get an idea of what driving the cars you feature are like.
When you love driving 😊
That was the most therapeutic video I’ve ever watched. Thanks Topher!
bro...watching this is killing me. I called a few local dealers yesterday and they want 35k for it! and I want one bad!
Rather get a V8 challenger or mustang for that money
@@siddharthsharma8940 At 35k there are alot of other choices. Granted in this market, a car that was 35k might be 40k. Idk tho, I saw a 22 Veloster N listed for 36k...that car has 75 more HP. 35k for the Si just doesnt make sense and no one should pay that. The Si is suppose to be a sporty car that is AFFORDABLE! a 7k 'market adjustment' is just disappointing
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@@equi Right!? when topher said msrp I was like good luck finding one for that. I got a 2020 si new for 25k out the door. You cant find one used with 40k miles for that much now. The car market is horrible especially for new cars. The new civic hatch base is more than my si was. Even at msrp I find the SI overpriced by about 2-3 grand. I would try to wait the shortage out before buying new, these prices are a joke.
Elantra N was just announced at $32k for 6-speed manual. Assuming you can find one without a markup, way better option performance wise.
I would never be able to drive like that in mountains.
Wow I didn't expect that! What a hoot! Very nice sound, and it seems so composed and nimble at the same time. But...here in Europe, we never had the Si version, only 1.5t 182hp and type R, and guess what, with this new 11th gen, we will only get ONE( yes, you read correctly), ONE engine option, and that is a 1.5 n/a engine with hybrid and about 129hp and cvt .Yes, seriously. Thank you green bullshit, you completely killed the car industry.
Wow..
they made the Canadian version of this car so much better yet its like a grand cheaper
Yeah I would 100% pick this up if it had the fog lights, heated seats, and indicators on the mirrors the other things aren’t as important to me personally
Hey Topher which would you recommend? This SI or the GR86? They are both approximately the same price here in Canada. No family to worry about, just me.
I would go with the 86.
Honda over Subaru
GR86 if you want a real sports car, Si if you want a fun practical daily driver.
86 holds its value better and is a better driver. It’s shifter is far better and rev hang really isn’t noticeable.
33:15 test drive both, personally I won't take the boxer engine over honda reliability
I was waiting for an Integra review, thanks!
How would you compare the SI to the 6 speed touring hatch?
Wow 🤩 that thing is one sharp looking sedan ! It sounds really great ! Sporty , and economical, really nice blend of everything for sure . It seems very responsive and punchy . I gotta go test drive one right away !
So hondata just dropped a Dyno video and it seems Honda underrated the the Hp and torque. It's makes 222 hp so I guess they did it to make room for the Integra.
TO THE WHEELS
Sounds like a naturally aspirated engine. Nice!
The main thing I’m disappointed about is not having dual climate. It also would have been nice to keep heated seats and steering wheel
Come to Canada, the new SI has both and a full digital gauges display for our version. I don't know why they took them away for the US version though, unless if it is just for the southern states.
@@danebezemer6336 I also hear the Canadian version is cheaper than the US spec car
Just have your passenger open a window like the generations of the past had to do
Finally!!! Topher reviewing new Si!!!
Who else was annoyed with the backpack placement 🤣
✋me lol
More annoying is missing spare 😀
The sound reminds me of my Gen8 Si.
Really interested in trying one of these out to see how it feels compared to my 2018 Accord Sport manual (1.5). The Accord isn't bad but there is a disconnect or inconsistency in the clutch and/or engine, which makes it really hard to drive smoothly.
Update…I now have a 2023 Civic Si in sonic gray pearl and it is SO MUCH BETTER than the Accord in every way other than back seat and trunk space, insurance and gas cost 😂
@@alexp6409good to know thanks for coming back and telling us as I was curious as well! I have a Blue one myself with the Yofer body kit!!
Anybody notice his reflection and the way he opens the doors almost like those pov had games?!?!?!🤣🤣🤣👀👀
Sooo happy with what I see int he new civic line up in general! looks like a real winner. But if I were in the market, the fact that the SI isn't available as a hatchback would be 100% a deal breaker for me. No available heated seats or heated steering is super sad for a brand new car too. If I didn't have cold weather to deal with, I would just get the GR86 anyway. Of course if you actually need the backseats regularly the 86 is out of the question. Veloster N has the same problem with no heat options, even though the non sporty ones have it. And both cars come standard with heat features in Canada, at a lower converted price. Why do foreign car companies think that we don't have cold weather in the US?! Total rip off. Super and about it. Next time I buy a car I may see if I can go buy it in Canada and drive it 20 hrs back if needed. Sorry, rant over
The Si hasn't been a hatchback in the North American market for a dog's age! The Type-R (if it comes) will use the 4-door hatchback platform.
I've been waiting for this video!!! Thank you Topher!
fake sound is really bad