Callas had to rely on "other things?" No one denies that Callas was a great actress, but to say that she had to rely on "other things" to make up for vocal deficiencies is an untruth so big that it should not be necessary to refute it. Callas was first and foremost a great vocalist, so for those "experts" who dwell on her vocal problems, well, there's nothing one can say. Just listen to the recordings, particularly the live ones. There are countless singers who would love to have such deficiencies!
*I read a comment and description somewhere with which I most agree: Tebaldi was the greatest opera singer, but Callas was a goddess who happened to sing opera.*
Tebaldi looked so boring. Callas was a beautiful, sensual Greek goddess that could seduce people by just looking at them. She had a magnetism that hypnotized her audience and made them listen. Her voice was so much better than Tebaldi’s, Tebaldi had a nice voice, but that was it. Callas had a voice that was DIVINE. There’s no way to categorize Callas’ voice. She could sound so girly and elegant in Bellini, then a force of nature in Medea. She could be seductive and sensual in Carmen, then make people cry there eyes out in Tosca. She was it.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ridiculous "reporters" milking 70-year-old non-existant animocities to gain views. Says much about the death of Opera and its singers today... :/ The same idiotic question: the one or the other? As if they're both singing somewhere in our city tonight and we have to decide which one we'll go to listen. Pathetic...
What beautiful tone? Tebaldi’s sound here is hard and lacking vulnerability. Singers in all genres are not just spinners of sound but ‘story tellers’ and they can’t be considered great unless we believe their words. Callas was not only believable in her roles but was a superior musician as well.
Renata Tebaldi est magnifique dans le répertoire Vériste en particulier et dans certains opéras de Verdi .En réalité on ne peut pas vraiment la comparer à Callas qui avait un répertoire extrêmement large ,vu l'étendue de son registre de trois octaves .La technique de Callas ,fabuleuse lui permettait ,avant qu'elle eût maigri de trente kilos de chanter aussi bien la Walkyrie de Wagner ,que les Puritains de Bellini ,et ceci à deux soirées d'intervalle .Un exploit ,donc ,comme les contre mi bémol dans Aida à Mexico ,ces années là .Donc il est assez agaçant d'entendre dire toujours que Callas était surtout une bonne interprète ,plutôt qu'une bonne chanteuse .C'est ridicule ! Callas a été durant les années 47 jusqu'à 1954 un véritable phénomène Vocal sans précédent dans l'histoire de l'Opéra ,grâce à sa technique et son étendue vocale,qui lui permettaient de pouvoir chanter Tous les rôles écrits pour Soprano et dans le Ton .
As for Tebaldi, well she was without a doubt a great opera star and a superbly trained vocalist. I find it interesting that she sang with so little vibrato. My main complaint about listening to her recordings is her lapses in intonation.
I'll take Maria Callas any day. She has a better voice and beautiful looking as well. She certainly knew what she was singing about. I don't understand why Renata Tebaldi is admired by so many people and I don't think someday I will change my mind on Tebaldi. But Tebaldi-worshippers can't even construct a legitimate and objective argument about why she is better than Callas.
Tebaldi a dove? Lol, she was a tiger too in Tosca and had power in her voice and in her stage presence She was a lady while divine Callas was hated for her temperament and egocentric manners The two reconciled after a Tebaldi performance when Callas went to congratulate her...
the entire premise is so lame. fred plotkin, the gentleman who said callas had to reply on 'other things' - do we assume he only knew of her work after the weight loss? who ever put this clip together did neither lady any favors in his/her choice of recording used. lol there are those who have their reasons for loving one over the other and, sadly, feel they also need to disparage the one they do not favor. and there are others who see the greatness of both these legends. put me in that second camp.
Hell, even after the weight loss she was better than anyone else. Goodness, “other things”… The statement is as devoid of intelligence as the sound of his voice🤦🏻♂️
El Diamante = RENATA TEBALDI el brillante = María Callas . El Platino = TEBALDI el oro = callas . El Océano = TEBALDI el río = callas Lo Divino = TEBALDI lo terrenal = callas . La Diva absoluta RENATA TEBALDI , la actriz cantante María Callas y esto fue por eso sus actuaciones que escondía su voz carente de técnica y belleza voz desgajada cascada en entonaciónes línea de canto irregular fue antes que nada actriz grande como cantante mediocre no se puede ni se debe comparar con la más grande soprano de todos los tiempos RENATA TEBALDI voz de ángel como en su momento la nombró el maestro Arturo Toscanini y quién sabe más que el ninguno de nosotros
¿Qué te has tomao que no me has dao? Amos, no me jodas. Tebaldi era una bonita voz. Sin más. No cantaba bien, tenía problemas de entonación, sentía un respeto mejorable por la partitura, poca agilidad, mal gusto, entre cero y menos tres en musicalidad, y por supueso, un palo en el escenario. Tebaldi no está ni entre las mejores cien cantantes de ópera del siglo XX.
@@rodolfoalonso7568, a ver: la anécdota de Toscanini y la "voce d'angelo", convenientemente amplificada y repetida hasta la náusea por la propia interesada, es eso simplemente, una anécdota de cuando Tebaldi acababa de salir del conservatorio (o quizá aún no) y no era más que un simple proyecto de cantante. Si te das cuenta empiezo mi comentario diciendo precisamente eso, que tenía una bonita voz. Y añado: muy estable y con un timbre precioso. Pero para ser una grande de la ópera le faltaba todo lo demás excepto, quizás, la pose. De ego siempre anduvo sobrada.
Las dos fueron y serán únicas. Callas expresa las emociones del alma mientras que Tebaldi canta a Dios. Callas interpreta al hombre compungido de dolor que se revela al designio de los dioses, mientras que Tebaldi canta com los querubines dando gracias. No son enemigas ni contrarias sino que son el complemento de esos tiempos. POR SIEMPRE CALLAS Y TEBALDI!!!
@@asyaredmendoza5617 Lee bien lo que escribí amigo. Estoy reconociendo a las dos más grandes cantantes de la ópera de esos tiempos. TEBALDI es una de las voces más hermosas y majestuosas. Callas es una de las voces que puede interpretar las arias con el mayor sentimiento humano. TEBALDI es una voz angelical. Callas interpreta el dolor humano. Las amo a las dos. Las dos son mis grandes ídolos.
This is dumb. Callas's tone was just conventionally uglier than Tebaldi's glorious voice. That's all. For the rest of the voice, Callas was far superior to Tebaldi. She had stronger chest voice that could rival mezzo sopranos with a deep and dark tone, she also had better high notes (Tebaldi relied too much on squillo that starting from high B, she lost full support for lack of head voice development). Don't even get me started on coloratura. Tebaldi's coloratura in Sempre Libera was just laughable. Callas voice is larger in size than Tebaldi's too, can sing lower and higher, and is a lot more agile. Not to mention, Callas was a much better stage actress than Tebaldi. Callas gave it her all when performing in operas. Renata only cared for the singing.
"Callas's tone was just conventionally uglier"? What are you talking about? Thinking that Callas had an ugly timbre has already become "political correctness" among the critics.
So, in other words, you are saying that you…prefer Callas? I don’t understand your statements here. In every part of singing and acting you are praising Callas, and yet you are saying that her tone is “conventionally ugly”. How can she be praised if she sounds ugly? And anyways, ignoring that incredible bit of contradiction, I’d just like to point out that I completely disagree with you. I think that Callas has a beautiful tone. It’s more subtle than most sopranos. I’m no expert or analyst, so I may find it hard to describe, but sometimes her voice sounds more like she’s humming than singing. Except that it’s also extremely powerful and projects greatly. I don’t know, but regardless, I think that in many human endeavors, it’s easy to find more than a few people at the top. In tennis, there’s The Big 3. Violinists, we have Heifetz, Stern, Perlman, etc… But not in opera. In opera, for me, there is only one singer for the men and one for the women who is clearly head and shoulders above the rest. For the men, it’s Pavarotti. For the women, it’s Maria Callas. Always was, is now, and always will be.
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Callas had to rely on "other things?" No one denies that Callas was a great actress, but to say that she had to rely on "other things" to make up for vocal deficiencies is an untruth so big that it should not be necessary to refute it. Callas was first and foremost a great vocalist, so for those "experts" who dwell on her vocal problems, well, there's nothing one can say. Just listen to the recordings, particularly the live ones. There are countless singers who would love to have such deficiencies!
*I read a comment and description somewhere with which I most agree: Tebaldi was the greatest opera singer, but Callas was a goddess who happened to sing opera.*
Tebaldi looked so boring. Callas was a beautiful, sensual Greek goddess that could seduce people by just looking at them. She had a magnetism that hypnotized her audience and made them listen. Her voice was so much better than Tebaldi’s, Tebaldi had a nice voice, but that was it. Callas had a voice that was DIVINE. There’s no way to categorize Callas’ voice. She could sound so girly and elegant in Bellini, then a force of nature in Medea. She could be seductive and sensual in Carmen, then make people cry there eyes out in Tosca. She was it.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Ridiculous "reporters" milking 70-year-old non-existant animocities to gain views. Says much about the death of Opera and its singers today... :/
The same idiotic question: the one or the other? As if they're both singing somewhere in our city tonight and we have to decide which one we'll go to listen. Pathetic...
The actress/singer....and the other one
(The most important voice of that part of the century? Tebaldi?!? Get a grip)
What beautiful tone? Tebaldi’s sound here is hard and lacking vulnerability. Singers in all genres are not just spinners of sound but ‘story tellers’ and they can’t be considered great unless we believe their words. Callas was not only believable in her roles but was a superior musician as well.
Renata Tebaldi est magnifique dans le répertoire Vériste en particulier et dans certains opéras de Verdi .En réalité on ne peut pas vraiment la comparer à Callas qui avait un répertoire extrêmement large ,vu l'étendue de son registre de trois octaves .La technique de Callas ,fabuleuse lui permettait ,avant qu'elle eût maigri de trente kilos de chanter aussi bien la Walkyrie de Wagner ,que les Puritains de Bellini ,et ceci à deux soirées d'intervalle .Un exploit ,donc ,comme les contre mi bémol dans Aida à Mexico ,ces années là .Donc il est assez agaçant d'entendre dire toujours que Callas était surtout une bonne interprète ,plutôt qu'une bonne chanteuse .C'est ridicule ! Callas a été durant les années 47 jusqu'à 1954 un véritable phénomène Vocal sans précédent dans l'histoire de l'Opéra ,grâce à sa technique et son étendue vocale,qui lui permettaient de pouvoir chanter Tous les rôles écrits pour Soprano et dans le Ton .
*Tebaldi: a most beautiful voice. Callas: the voice reaching heaven and hell and encapsulating both-La Diva, La Divina, La Callas.*
*I also believe there were and there will be other tebaldis. But there was only one Callas.*
As for Tebaldi, well she was without a doubt a great opera star and a superbly trained vocalist. I find it interesting that she sang with so little vibrato. My main complaint about listening to her recordings is her lapses in intonation.
dana winsor little vibrato. The heck are you talking about
from which docu is this???
A comparison with Callas and Lilli Lehmann would be much more interesting.
I'll take Maria Callas any day. She has a better voice and beautiful looking as well. She certainly knew what she was singing about. I don't understand why Renata Tebaldi is admired by so many people and I don't think someday I will change my mind on Tebaldi. But Tebaldi-worshippers can't even construct a legitimate and objective argument about why she is better than Callas.
Tebaldi a dove?
Lol, she was a tiger too in Tosca and had power in her voice and in her stage presence
She was a lady while divine Callas was hated for her temperament and egocentric manners
The two reconciled after a Tebaldi performance when Callas went to congratulate her...
yes! I'm sick of reading Tebaldi compared to angels, doves all kinds of heavenly creatures. She could be a fucking DEMON too.
m.ruclips.net/video/ZTXFRY1x4zI/видео.html
I always feel like their real personalities are actually reversed from what most people think.
the entire premise is so lame.
fred plotkin, the gentleman who said callas had to reply on 'other things' -
do we assume he only knew of her work after the weight loss?
who ever put this clip together did neither lady any favors in his/her choice of recording used. lol
there are those who have their reasons for loving one over the other and, sadly, feel they also need to disparage the one they do not favor.
and there are others who see the greatness of both these legends.
put me in that second camp.
Hell, even after the weight loss she was better than anyone else. Goodness, “other things”… The statement is as devoid of intelligence as the sound of his voice🤦🏻♂️
Tebaldi only sings while Callas can do both.
Yes ~ I found weird that, they try to suppress Callas' singing legacy to make this match between these two great soprano ~ Comparing is rude tbh
Maria.
who is Tebaldi????
Are u for real?
Who are you?
Who cares????
la tebaldi quando canta nella voce ha tutto ...la callas no ..deve per forza fare qualcosa d altro ..lha fatto benissimo.,,
Renata Tebaldi’s voice was more beautiful, but she was a bad vocal and physical actress unlike Maria Callas. Both were fantastic musicians.
Tebaldi who?
El Diamante = RENATA TEBALDI el brillante = María Callas . El Platino = TEBALDI el oro = callas . El Océano = TEBALDI el río = callas
Lo Divino = TEBALDI lo terrenal = callas . La Diva absoluta RENATA TEBALDI , la actriz cantante María Callas y esto fue por eso sus actuaciones que escondía su voz carente de técnica y belleza voz desgajada cascada en entonaciónes línea de canto irregular fue antes que nada actriz grande como cantante mediocre no se puede ni se debe comparar con la más grande soprano de todos los tiempos RENATA TEBALDI voz de ángel como en su momento la nombró el maestro Arturo Toscanini y quién sabe más que el ninguno de nosotros
¿Qué te has tomao que no me has dao? Amos, no me jodas. Tebaldi era una bonita voz. Sin más. No cantaba bien, tenía problemas de entonación, sentía un respeto mejorable por la partitura, poca agilidad, mal gusto, entre cero y menos tres en musicalidad, y por supueso, un palo en el escenario. Tebaldi no está ni entre las mejores cien cantantes de ópera del siglo XX.
@@robert111k si amigo tu sabes más que Arturo Toscanini
@@rodolfoalonso7568, a ver: la anécdota de Toscanini y la "voce d'angelo", convenientemente amplificada y repetida hasta la náusea por la propia interesada, es eso simplemente, una anécdota de cuando Tebaldi acababa de salir del conservatorio (o quizá aún no) y no era más que un simple proyecto de cantante. Si te das cuenta empiezo mi comentario diciendo precisamente eso, que tenía una bonita voz. Y añado: muy estable y con un timbre precioso. Pero para ser una grande de la ópera le faltaba todo lo demás excepto, quizás, la pose. De ego siempre anduvo sobrada.
Las dos fueron y serán únicas. Callas expresa las emociones del alma mientras que Tebaldi canta a Dios. Callas interpreta al hombre compungido de dolor que se revela al designio de los dioses, mientras que Tebaldi canta com los querubines dando gracias. No son enemigas ni contrarias sino que son el complemento de esos tiempos. POR SIEMPRE CALLAS Y TEBALDI!!!
@@asyaredmendoza5617 Lee bien lo que escribí amigo. Estoy reconociendo a las dos más grandes cantantes de la ópera de esos tiempos. TEBALDI es una de las voces más hermosas y majestuosas. Callas es una de las voces que puede interpretar las arias con el mayor sentimiento humano. TEBALDI es una voz angelical. Callas interpreta el dolor humano. Las amo a las dos. Las dos son mis grandes ídolos.
This is dumb. Callas's tone was just conventionally uglier than Tebaldi's glorious voice. That's all. For the rest of the voice, Callas was far superior to Tebaldi. She had stronger chest voice that could rival mezzo sopranos with a deep and dark tone, she also had better high notes (Tebaldi relied too much on squillo that starting from high B, she lost full support for lack of head voice development). Don't even get me started on coloratura. Tebaldi's coloratura in Sempre Libera was just laughable. Callas voice is larger in size than Tebaldi's too, can sing lower and higher, and is a lot more agile. Not to mention, Callas was a much better stage actress than Tebaldi. Callas gave it her all when performing in operas. Renata only cared for the singing.
"Callas's tone was just conventionally uglier"? What are you talking about? Thinking that Callas had an ugly timbre has already become "political correctness" among the critics.
So, in other words, you are saying that you…prefer Callas? I don’t understand your statements here. In every part of singing and acting you are praising Callas, and yet you are saying that her tone is “conventionally ugly”. How can she be praised if she sounds ugly? And anyways, ignoring that incredible bit of contradiction, I’d just like to point out that I completely disagree with you. I think that Callas has a beautiful tone. It’s more subtle than most sopranos. I’m no expert or analyst, so I may find it hard to describe, but sometimes her voice sounds more like she’s humming than singing. Except that it’s also extremely powerful and projects greatly. I don’t know, but regardless, I think that in many human endeavors, it’s easy to find more than a few people at the top. In tennis, there’s The Big 3. Violinists, we have Heifetz, Stern, Perlman, etc… But not in opera. In opera, for me, there is only one singer for the men and one for the women who is clearly head and shoulders above the rest. For the men, it’s Pavarotti. For the women, it’s Maria Callas. Always was, is now, and always will be.
Una era intonata, l'altra no.
Garzi sono numerosi gli esempi di intonazione crescente della Callas. Farebbe meglio a tacere.
Come on. Tebaldi was just a beautiful voice. She wasn't even a good singer.