Door Bumper Clear Reacts to Ross Chastain’s Hail Mary Move at Martinsville | Door Bumper Clear
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2022
- Ross Chastain’s Hail Mary move riding the wall gained him enough positions to make the NASCAR Cup Series Championship 4.
Door Bumper Clear's T.J. Majors, Freddie Kraft, Brett Griffin, and special guest Jeff Gluck, from The Athletic, explain how shocked they were to see him make the move, debate whether he prepared for it, and discuss if NASCAR should rewrite the rules to prevent it.
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Dale Jr. said it all in the broadcast:
"How bad do you want it? That bad".
Unforgettable moment.
Well. He never said 'That bad.'
Yes he said that bad
gtta admit. ross broke the internet with this move.
100 💯 I’m still seeing it all over
I don’t watch nascar but, all I know is a video essay on Dale and this wall ride
over 200 million views on every platform known to man kind is just absolutely insane for our sport
Props to Ross for making the move work, though if he’d hit someone or suffered a concussion, then there’d be yells of dumb a$! move. Not advocating for a rule, just saying the Watermelon Rule 😆😆😆
I am still watching the vid of the last lap… the man grabbed 5th and didn’t lift hats off to him And I wasn’t a fan until this it was beautiful to watch as a fan
That was a one in a million move. Martinsville is probably the only track it would work on. Hats off to Ross.
It might work at Phoenix. I seriously doubt it but it might, can't rule it out. Richmond seems like a possibility but I don't know with how sharp the entry into 3 is. That could really hurt
Edit: I forgot Loudon. I bet it would work great there but man that's going to be risky at those speeds
could it work at bristol?
@JGR4LIFE larson was doing it with banking, but his pass was blocked each time by the leader
@@shaunmilor The problem with bristol is you already have people running near the wall so you're just going to run over someone and wreck doing it there.
@@wingracer1614 Didn’t Larson try that in Phoenix? And now he’s salty that Chastain made it work
“Whiners.” Amen to that.
"If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough." Facts
Absolutely not, thats even dumber logic
@@lightsoutracingproductions I'll take "Missed jokes" for $500 Alex
@@lightsoutracingproductions in certain situations that is a fact but I totally understand where you and Freddie disagree with that
@@whiteyshark5826 “facts” = missed jokes apparently. Freddie just comes off as the typical southern toxic mentality
Whether they make a rule or not, that was the coolest move I have ever seen. I have been watching Nascar for 50 plus years.
Why make it a rule???? No one has EVER had the balls to pull it off.
if they make it illegal i quit nascar
@@servantofthemosthigh7443 he is 😂
@@Bramon83 Agreed!!!!
Same here. Been a fan since the mid-90s or so. That was a Sr type move.
No rule needed. This move is self correcting. The car is toast afterwards. It really is a last lap move of assperation/desperation. The stars aligned for Chastain and we got to see an incredible show.
Personally, I think Ross single handedly may have found something the next gen car is good at/for. 😄😆🤣
All of these people who are criticizing Ross's move let's just enjoy the moment. In my 50+ yrs of watching Nascar that was definitely a stand out move probably never to be seen again. He did what he did to get in the top 4. Racers have a different mindset than those of us who aren't. This is exactly what Nascar needed and probably gained some fans over it. I loved it!!
right its HMS fans that cant stand ir
If Denny had known he was coming, he would have moved up to block, but Ross still would have picked up enough positions to pass Denny in points. But….to add insult to injury, he PASSED Denny to finish 5th!!! It was amazing.
I’d honestly be very surprised if Denny doesn’t “accidentally” crash into Chastain at Phoenix or at the very least do all he can to interfere with his race and slow him down
@@chrisboswell3406 Then Ross will dump his ass. Stop posting stupid comments.
@@chrisboswell3406 And Denny does own that to Ross. But I don't think he will.
@@chrisboswell3406 Maybe...but then Denny has a long history of making threats and then never following through.
Best move in Nascar history .. I'm not even a Chastain fan .. Props to him for having the highest iq on the track ..I love seeing drivers cry and pout about chastains move..but it would be totally different if they did it .. Same with the fans.. people that don't like chastain are doing nothing bout crying bout it .. but if their driver did it then it would be different..and they would be praising their driver
The issue with making a rule is this... If you go back to the Darlington Xfinity race - Larson and Creed, were in a battle for the lead, Noah was right there in 3rd. Noah ended up with the win, but they ALL scraped the wall on the last lap going for it, and it turned out to be one of the best finishes I've seen in a long time. Would they DQ them all??? Impossible,
There's a clear difference between wall riding and a Darlington stripe.
@@WastdTrashPanda no creed was wall riding at the end he kept it in the wall from turn 4 all the way to the finish line
@@sundaxe10 Absolutely- Creed rode the wall the entire time, and Noah hit the wall, then advanced his position on Creed. it wasn't just a "darlington stripe" Also in the podcast one of their proposed rules was not being able to use the wall to gain a position.
But he didn't just scrape the wall . He intentionally geared up and hit the wall . It was a great move but that will end up in a crash 99% of the time and hurt or kill the driver and other drivers too
My guess NASCAR will lock out 5th gear on short tracks. Problem solved.
Best move ever made. Plain and simple. He did what he had to do to get the position he had to have.
NASCAR is going to rule themselves right out of an audience!!
Same thing happened to football
Haters are gonna hate...Best Move ever!
It shows determination.
Put him in Toyota and you’re a hater
A one in a lifetime move and he snookered Hamlin in the process...
Everyone: That's the greatest move in Nascar history!
Nascar: Let's make a rule so you can't do that again.
I mean if he wrecked because of his idiot move, which he could have easily done, wrecked half the field, would people still think it was so great.
NASCAR has said no such thing….
i'd be embarrassed if I were Larson too. Ross is legend
I love Ross and his attitude. You're saying Ross is a legend for this? Awesome move. Not legend status. Took 0 talent to pull it off, just big balls.
@@cliff4695 big balls makes legend.
@@shaundiltz5821 big balls make you, dumb/stupid/brave. In this case, brave. Legends win races, championships, multiple championships, multiple series wins, other legends call you the goat, etc. Dont get it twisted, I love Ross and this move but, the move will be legendary, not the driver. The pass in the grass, which was never a pass, became legendary. The driver that performed it, is the goat when it comes to legends. The pass in the grass had 0 to do with his legend status.
@@cliff4695 this move, his name, the finish will be replayed for hundreds of years. Instantly top 5 highlight of all racing in hundred year history. No amount of wins would even be comparable. It’s legend. My kids kids kids will be asking me about this if I live that long.
@@shaundiltz5821 exactly! Top 5 highlight. Not top 5 driver or talent or year or career or anything else. The move will be legendary, not the man or his name, just the move. It takes a hell of allot to be crowned a legend. His wall ride will go down in history, people will talk about this for a few decades or so, they will not know who Chastain is tho. Its just that simple
Days of Thunder, Talladega Nights rolled into one at Martinsville, the move of the century.
If NASCAR wants to further ruin themselves…make a rule. Ross made the kind of move that attracts more fans.
The only reason this worked is because of how slow of a cornering speed there is at Martinsville, anywhere else the speed difference wouldn't be so high and you'd scrub off too much for it to work.
Common sense told me that. Thanks though.
The other thing is that it literally only works on the last set of corners. You wouldn't throw the hail Mary to win a stage and have a junked car for the rest of the race. He also didn't win the race. He sacrificed the car for 5 spots. You can't enforce or create a rule on this. Jmo.
Hats off to Ross. Let’s admit it, he out smarted Hamlin. 😂😂😂😂 Great job Ross 🎉
If NASCAR is dumb enough to make a rule, then the rule should be that "Only Ross May Attempt". Done 🍉❤
What are they gonna do paint a yellow line on the walls? the Watermelon Crawl
It was the last lap and he did what he needed to do to advance to the championship race in Phoenix
how do people not realize this will never be the "normal" move. Thats why its never happened before lol. Such a rare situation to where you would be able to do this and succeed from it. He didnt need to pass Denny he needed 2 spots. In a regular race guys running 1 and 2, P2 isnt just gunna send it along the wall to pass p1 can just block and get taken out but yeah. Wont be the norm, hence the rarity of the move. Well done Ross, was insane to watch
Leading by 8 car lengths. P2 gotta get in?
^^^this^^^
Remember Ricky Craven and Kurt Busch?
Right, it will never be the norm, I'd bet if 25 guys went out now and tried to duplicate it, none will get it right. I mean, it was that one perfect move that went perfect in every way for him. A once in a lifetime move. I honestly don't think it could be done again or too many have the guts to try it.
It never happened before because there was never a car that could handle it. Now we have one.
I got nothing but RESPECT for Chastain after that move.
I left NASCAR behind about 10 years ago. this weekends coverage of the move brought me back runnin'. good job on the move #1, booo to new rules.
Best move in the history of racing!!! Nuf said 😱✌️
It was history in the making- The Martinsville Paperclip Wall Whip
I don’t think most tracks are shaped to be able to pull a move like that
Exactly this only works at Martinsville on the last lap of the race, and you destroy the car. Everywhere else you're getting beat by whoevers on the bottom.
I hope nascar leaves this alone and dose not make a rule. This is the best thing that has happened in nascar history 👏 🙌 way to go Ross.
Hell has frozen over! These guys actually defended Chastain!! It's a Christmas Miracle!
I've never watched more than 10 minutes of Nascar at once at any given point. If I watch another minute of this, I'll break that mark today.
... It's getting broken. This is absolutely awesome. I want to watch other angles of it. Balls out baby, if you're not first you're last.
That move was unreal. My wife and I were talking about it for an hour after we saw it. Just unreal. One of the best I've seen in all my years watching NASCAR. Will NASCAR make a rule? Probably. Should NASCAR make a rule? Probably not. But I'll say this and it was mentioned by the guys. When the camera was on Ross when he got out of the car and took off his helmet, he looked like he was "off". After being in EMS for over 17 years and having been on hundreds of accident scenes, I've seen that look before. He was a hurtin unit! And Ross made mention of that later on. I can see that being the only reason something comes out of this rule wise.
But that was awesome.
Probably not? He was lucky he didn't end up wrecking everyone near him. Hell yes nascar should make a rule.
@@donaldbott8331 Are you a little girl named Karen ?😂🤣😝🙄
@@donaldbott8331 make the speed limit 40 mph, they're going to fast and might get hurt.
@@donaldbott8331 with that logic Daytona, Talledega should be removed from the schedule.
@@donaldbott8331 Beta Soyboy found.
“What if the gate caught the car!” So dumb considering any car can crash at any time into the same gate. What if… what if… what if..
Asking "What if....?" may increase safety without reducing the racing or excitement.
Your argument reminds me of the members of a city council or a group of town selectman who carelessly have a blinking yellow light installed at the crosswalk of a school on a main road after a child gets hit.
You're right about not being able to forecast every plausible scenario, but if you can think it, it can happen.
If any car had lost a tire or had been pushed up into the wall by another trying to pass on the last lap, Chastain never could have stopped and would have clobbered that car.
In that situation, I think may who are lauding his move would not hesitate to call him reckless. I think he was anyway. A "What if....?" may prevent it.
@@mikelavin9704 this isn’t a crosswalk… it’s a dangerous sport where everyone knows the risks. “What if another car blew a tire at the EXACT right moment and Ross couldn’t avoid him!” Give me a break lol
IF YOU STAY TO THE OUTSDE YOU CAN HOLD IT.
Your tires are matched perfect and staggered special !
"I know Cole, he'll try to take me on the outside"
Dale Sr used to flatten his right rear corner on the wall that stuck out on what was then turn 2 at Phoenix . He said it helped his speed going. Into the dogleg and also the aerodynamics. So there is history of drivers using a wall to gain an advantage.
This new Generation car is why it worked .
Every NASCAR driver is on Sim or iRacing this week practicing and trying to see how this works at Phoenix.....
I’ve never watched nascar in my life. I was watching football when I saw the clip and now I’m here listening to a nascar podcast. So I’d say marketing wise, chastains move worked lol.
Coolest move ever and automatically people want rules.
There is already a rule...car in the wall..yellow flag.. bringing out caution on purpose, tail end lead lap cars or 1 lap penalty
@@vze2fnfg my point is that it was so super cool and fun and got everyone talking. Then there are guys like you
The pass in the grass. The hail melon. 2 greatest moves ever!!
Let them just race!!! No new rules needed!
I’m not even a nascar fan and I can’t stop watching this. My dad watched nascar back in the day and I never watched it. But MAAAANNNN that was sooo cool. I think it’s an equivalent of like a 75 yard field goal to make the playoffs.
Hi America. I am a Dane - As in from Europe. I watch F1 - and frankly I instantly change the channel when NASCAR is on. Every time I have tried to watch it, someone has been pushed off the track by someone OBVIOUSLY doing it deliberately with 0 consequence - or it has been a boooorrrriiinnnggg races going round and round with nothing happening. Well... I - for the last 2 hours have been watching NASCAR and entire videos relating to what Ross did here. I love it! Actual guts and skill combined with luck to make a moment in your sport which rivals the all time best moments of motorsports...
1: Don't make a rule about this - before you make a rule which black flags people for pushing other people off the track and into the wall!
2: This is not an embarrassment - this is bloody brilliant!
3: Stop talking over each other guys! Being rude does not = being right!
You should have told Bubba, YOUR FIRED!
chastain really said "I'm fast af, boyyy!"
Reminded me of my days slot car racing on big tracks. If you were running your wing car racer on the outside lane, you literally had it wide open and ran the wall.
That was a Cole Trickle move. Lol
Who all remembers Dale Sr.'s pass in the grass back in '79 At least I think it was his first year when he did that. Richard Petty has talked about it.
I think that NASCAR will wait to make a rule for a couple of reasons. 1. How much the viewership of the last race increases. 2. Might not need it because after they make the changes to the cars it might just be impossible to do.
I can't wait for him to be introduced at Phoenix...the roar gonna be huge
The best part was him knocking Hamlin out. Watch for NASCAR to make a rule against something like this. NASCAR wanted that number 11 in the championship run they make too much money from Toyota sponsorship.
So true
If they wanted the 11 in they would’ve penalized chastian. The 20 is in anyways on speed so your point is moot
Ross Chastain, not only gained a huge number of fans for himself, but also for the sport itself. This has gained world wide attention and the Phoenix race may very well have the best TV ratings in decades. This is exactly what the sport needed. This guy is a daredevil. He will do whatever it takes to win.
All of us have watched the video bunches, watching it in real time I thought that a camera had malfunctioned. You all that work in this sport were surprised by this move -- as for it becoming the new Norm I will remain on the side of caution. The reason I say that is there are way too many variables in a choice like Ross made and in his case this one worked out, the next one maybe not. I will say that one of the reasons I believe he made the move was -- He has been one of the few driver's who did not get caught up in how unsafe this car is -- he stated numerous times that other driver's did not speak for him -- therefore he felt safe enough to send it. Geez what a moment all of us witnessed.
Earnhardt Sr: “Put casters on the right side, I’ve got an idea.”
RCR Fab Shop: “Yes sir.”
This moment reached so far out of the sphere of NASCAR it was insane!
I was shocked I hadn't been watching NASCAR since 2020, so after a few years not watching I see this and I'm shocked to see almost everyone everywhere taking about this
new rule "whiners not allowed to play" go set on the side lines.
although it was awesome but we all know the successfull chances of that happening again are very slim I can appreciate what he did it took a few seconds of IDGAF humanity rides on the shoulders of people who took a chance..the sport needed this it really did good video yall!
The ONLY time someone is going to pull a 'rim-job' is for the win or a position in the chase.
If you hit the wall during a wrecking finish at Talladega and advance a spot, I guess a new rule would make it illegal.
Fernando Alonso said this was the greatest moment in racing this year.
You can dump the leader , but you can't use everything to your advantage to better your position, guys have use the wall at darlington for years to make up positions
never watched a second of nascar, but that was awesome
If Nascar makes a rule then a lot of people will turn it off. This is the definition of doing what it takes to make it for a chance for the trophy.
Does anyone remember the Darlington stripe??? The fastest way around Darlington was to rub your right side of the car against the guard rail. Good drivers had the stripe bad drivers stayed away from the wall.
No no no. This is the most positive coverage NASCAR has had all season. People that don't watch NASCAR are talking about this. This was a good thing.
Nascar making a rule against it makes Chastain legendary as the only driver to EVER. DO. THAT.
No rule, 👍👍 to Ross Chastain
He Forsure was driving at 100%..Kyle L tryed and could not do it--that is why he was embarrassed .This is racing..Fans loves it. NASCAR can't buy this much publicity.. WATERMELON RUN..
"Let your balls hang out & do that" - quote of the year
No new rules. Rules are bad. Just make changes to the car to make it more difficult.
If Reddick really did experience issues of not feeling right in the head from a bumper to bumper stack up on a restart, imagine the damage that could be done if someone is traveling 40+ mph faster than you and hits you in the back bumper while trying to do what Chastain did. If they want to allow wall riding as a legal move, then they need to soften up the ends of the cars again to absorb some of that force.
I feel like an element of the "make a rule" conversation I haven't seen much mention of is the damage report. Freddie touched on it with the missed joke opportuniy.. but I don't seen the wall ride being an option in any other situation than the hail mary last lap gotta get a position type play. I have yet to see any info on how buckled the car was, but I doubt it could have completed any additional laps.. My point is, I think everyone is talking about it, but it was a one in a million move.
No Rule!!! Chastain Got Lucky, if anyone ahead of him was running that top line he wouldn't have been able to run the the wall. Goes to show "Who wants it bad enough"? Chastain certainly did, he was hungry to be in the top 4 @ Phenix!👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Ross the boss Chastain is the reason I watch the races honestly I'm a dirt racing fan and what he did is what dirt racers do every race,put on a show and sale some shirts
The only thing that would have been even cooler is if he was a few cars behind the leader and made that move and passed the leader just before checkered flag and won the race! But all in all he wanted it and took a big chance but he damn sure done it and was awesome!
My take on that move is it'll probably only work on a small course like Martinsville. The curve is so tight that everyone going for the inside has to slow down a considerable amount, and the course is so small that, while Chastain carried this through turns 3 and 4, there still wasn't a whole lot of time or distance that he spent going along the wall. In terms of legality, I feel like if the rules are going to change to prevent this in the name of safety, let people meddle with the sport and dilute it as much as they want, but any rule against using the wall to your strategic advantage shouldn't be enforced retroactively, and it will almost certainly end up similar to, or possibly worse than, the double yellow line/shoulder penalty shenanigans.
Long story short, Ross Chastain is a mad genius masquerading as a NASCAR driver, and I live for his antics.
I tried it in IRACING at a handful of tracks.
TRACKS THAT IT "WORKS" AT;
Works- .4 of a second faster than normal fresh tires.
MARTINSVILLE, NEW HAMPSHIRE, PHOENIX, BRISTOL, LA COLISEUM.
I bet someone will try it if they can at Phoenix.
Ross will be this years most popular driver im calling it now
MAN If you want something bad like he does what the hell try it ! thumbs up to him !
"If you're gon be dumb, you'd better be tough"...QOTY!!! 🏆🏆🏆
That means in the case that you're talking about every time somebody's at Darlington and puts a stripe on it they got to go to the back they got to leave this alone they ain't got a leg to stand on it's just going to make it worse if they try messing with it
With this move, Chastain elevated himself to cult following status, the same as Earnhardt with "The Pass In The Grass".
As a video game designer I got it...
1. Put "Boost Wheels" on the side of the car, each race the drivers get 3 boosts.
2. Make the walls safe to boost off of, smooth with no gates....
:D You'll have dudes pulling 200mph corners and NASCAR Boost League just turned into my favorite sport :D
The safer barrier made it works pretty well
The fact that he let go of the steering wheel 😂😂 gibus had him
They will make a rule. Yep. But, part of the reason for the rule will be to preserve the most Iconic moment in American motorsports, maybe worldwide.
There will be another NASCAR movie, e.g. Days of Thunder, made from this one Iconic move. That is what we just witnessed.
Brilliant move.
What year did Harry Gant rub a hole in his fender at Darlington? Not exactly the same situation but he bounced off the wall several times that day.
As one commentator said--Watermelon-size balls!!!
LMAO i love guy in the blue shirt!
Just think if Ross wins the Cup that pass is the greatest clutch play ever.
It's not the first time it was tried successfully. It's the first time at Martinsville.
They did it at darlington for years.
Kurt Bush at Atlanta in the 2, had half the field lapped by halfway, at one point lapped into the top 10 after pit stops.
Rest assured the Martinsville track worker who has to paint the wall won't be sending Ross a Christmas card...Lastly, I'd like to think somewhere above Dale Earnhardt tipped a heavenly glass of wine to Ross. Another racer doing whatever it takes, shades of sitting in the window opening while wiping your windshield under caution, pass in the grass Riverside, whatever it takes...
You hit the nail on the head. He out smarted everyone, he has more balls and the haters are trying to find a problem with it.
I don't see it working again because everyone will be looking/waiting for it to happen again plus will the situation ever really present itself again where someone will be physically in a position to do it. Last lap your in 2nd, can you simply floor it, cut to the wall and take off? I'm not sure it would be that simple, wouldn't you need space to accelerate AND you would have to touch the wall at the perfect angle. Kudos to Ross for pulling it off, doesn't it just fit that it was him that pulled this off this year after his other adventures so far? Go get the championship dude!
Bottom line ...That dude chastain made a lot of fans that day ...The one thing myself and others loved about Earnhardt is "He just wanted it more "...That was Ross Chastain !
3:14. "A terrorists attack"?? What an idiotic thing to say. Comparing one of the best moves in NASCAR history, to one of the most horrific days in American history. Unreal!!
I can totally see a train of cars riding the wall on the last lap of next year's Martinsville race! lol
People used to "wall ride" on the old NASCAR racing sims and you could pass the entire field. The game added an engine slowdown of 5 seconds to counter this. I used to win at Martinsville in a league this way. I just had to time it to avoid cars. Then league rules added, "No wall riding".
All I heard on the radio was “Leeerroooyyy Jeeennkkiiinnsss!!” 😂
I'm usually 100% in line with all Brett says, but not today. Ross proved this move works. Any driver now that doesn't do this move from now on is not doing the most they can for their sponcers, and would be fools not to. Do you really want everyone in the field to do this all at the same time on the last lap.of every race? Thats the door Ross opened!
they talked about it on the main Dale JR download episode with letarte, but it really doesn't need to be a rule because it wont work at most places so it wont happen. plus, other drivers will know it might happen so they'll block or be more aware to stop it. this worked mostly on the element of surprise