Doesn't "indie" mean "independent"? Something like a small company that crafts the fragrances (almost) entirely in-house and distributes/sells them by themselves.
Yes....and no.There are quite a few "indie" brands partially owned by bigger names houses,or even sub-brands .It's like in the music business - it's trendy for a singer/rapper ... to say "Oh you know i'm not with a label atm-i'm indipendant" , but actually most of them are not. Sure there are indipendent small perfume businesses , but NOT every "indie" house is indipendent.For quite a few brands it's just a way to promote themselves . Also lately you can find a lot of of indie fragrances in boutiques , and online stores...mostly in US. P.P. Как сме?
yeah indie is very hard to classify, and I don't think anyone really knows exactly how to define it. The only way to know a scent is indie is just to know it's indie. An "independent" definition is a good start, but gets muddled with houses that are considered niche and are also independent. Imaginary Authors and Slumberhouse are two lines that I think most would consider niche even though they are technically independent houses. But at any rate, I hope this video adds to the discussion and others can add on to what is said. :)
I would categorize niche and designer like you did, I disagree with your definition of „indie”, though; to me the main thing about indie is that their creators are more connected with the perfume-community or even are part of it. I agree that there's a remarkable high percentage of indie-companies who focus more on natural ingredients and it could be interesting to discuss why that is, but brands like Imaginary Authors or Zoologist obviously have no problem with using synthetic ingredients. Indie is a pretty new thing in perfumery, I suppose no definition can be seen as official yet. Also there's the question which direction indie-perfumery will be going in the future. Anyway, cool video, thx!
And then we have also artistic fragrances that are very expensive and the bottles are usually a masterpiece on their own, very often includes gold and diamonds 👌 And then we have celebrity perfumes...similar to designers, but cheaper, sometimes they can surprise with interesting scent... And then there is some more categories...
Love Guerlain, but they are hard to classify. They are a classic perfume house, you'll find them stuck in the designer section. The ambition and tradition far surpasses the likes of Mugler and Boss. By the way, great video.
I’m not sure that Indie is what you describe. Indie is short for independent. I think the original classification was to identify typically niche perfume houses whose owner is also the perfumer of the house, in contrast to niche perfume houses that outsource their perfumers. Whether the ingredients are more natural or not is a factor. Concerning niche, I agree with 90% of what you said, but I don’t think price , quality, and accessibility are necessarily high and exclusive for all niche perfumes. There are many niche houses that offer perfumes in the same price range as designer perfumes, and even lower, and whose quality are not necessarily above average. But I do agree that their smell profiles target that customers who seek scents that are not mass-appealing, non-department-store scent profiles, but unique, differentiating, and “artisan” in quality. Last, yes, I do agree that indie perfumes are a subcategory of niche perfumes. All indie perfumes are niche, but not viceversa.
Are there sub-categories? What do you consider fragrances from stores like Zara, Bath & Body and Banana Republic? How about companies like Sterling (Armaf), Al Harmain, Rasasi or ScentStory? These companies don't seem to fit into the designer, niche or indie classification. Then there are celebrity fragrances. I like smelling good. If it is a good fragrance, I don't care if it is designer, niche or indie. If I find an indie house that I like and can afford, I will support it, because they are usually small and need all the customers they can get. Also, they tend to be more daring in the fragrances they release and I sometimes like something a little daring. Not Sécrétions Magnifiques daring, but somewhat daring nonetheless.
yeah, I think there probably are (or should be) more categories for scents. The ones you mentioned are great examples of lines that don't seem to fit into designer/indie/niche. Maybe I should invent some new categories. LOL. I may add this to another video. :)
I’m tired of designers they all smell similar no switch up I got 41 bottles rn and 38 of them are designer rest are niche I’m on the niche train not going back to designer unless the fragrance is a absolute game changer
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Doesn't "indie" mean "independent"?
Something like a small company that crafts the fragrances (almost) entirely in-house and distributes/sells them by themselves.
Yes....and no.There are quite a few "indie" brands partially owned by bigger names houses,or even sub-brands .It's like in the music business - it's trendy for a singer/rapper ... to say "Oh you know i'm not with a label atm-i'm indipendant" , but actually most of them are not.
Sure there are indipendent small perfume businesses , but NOT every "indie" house is indipendent.For quite a few brands it's just a way to promote themselves .
Also lately you can find a lot of of indie fragrances in boutiques , and online stores...mostly in US.
P.P.
Как сме?
yeah indie is very hard to classify, and I don't think anyone really knows exactly how to define it. The only way to know a scent is indie is just to know it's indie. An "independent" definition is a good start, but gets muddled with houses that are considered niche and are also independent. Imaginary Authors and Slumberhouse are two lines that I think most would consider niche even though they are technically independent houses. But at any rate, I hope this video adds to the discussion and others can add on to what is said. :)
Yeah, like Office For Men by Jeremy.
Love these basic videos because I'm just learning about how great fragrances are.
I would categorize niche and designer like you did, I disagree with your definition of „indie”, though; to me the main thing about indie is that their creators are more connected with the perfume-community or even are part of it. I agree that there's a remarkable high percentage of indie-companies who focus more on natural ingredients and it could be interesting to discuss why that is, but brands like Imaginary Authors or Zoologist obviously have no problem with using synthetic ingredients.
Indie is a pretty new thing in perfumery, I suppose no definition can be seen as official yet. Also there's the question which direction indie-perfumery will be going in the future.
Anyway, cool video, thx!
Indie is a really nebulous category in general. I don't doubt that there will be many who disagree with either of our definitions.
True.
And then we have also artistic fragrances that are very expensive and the bottles are usually a masterpiece on their own, very often includes gold and diamonds 👌
And then we have celebrity perfumes...similar to designers, but cheaper, sometimes they can surprise with interesting scent...
And then there is some more categories...
What an excellent video! So well spoken! To the point! And answering exactly the questions I had about these three labels! Thank you!!!
Such an awesome comprehensive video for beginner fragrance enthusiasts!
thank you!
Hi there Dave, that was very helpful thank you for that!
Your honesty is top of the notch Daver!! Thanks for Sharing.
thank you!
Love Guerlain, but they are hard to classify. They are a classic perfume house, you'll find them stuck in the designer section. The ambition and tradition far surpasses the likes of Mugler and Boss. By the way, great video.
I’m not sure that Indie is what you describe.
Indie is short for independent. I think the original classification was to identify typically niche perfume houses whose owner is also the perfumer of the house, in contrast to niche perfume houses that outsource their perfumers. Whether the ingredients are more natural or not is a factor.
Concerning niche, I agree with 90% of what you said, but I don’t think price , quality, and accessibility are necessarily high and exclusive for all niche perfumes. There are many niche houses that offer perfumes in the same price range as designer perfumes, and even lower, and whose quality are not necessarily above average. But I do agree that their smell profiles target that customers who seek scents that are not mass-appealing, non-department-store scent profiles, but unique, differentiating, and “artisan” in quality.
Last, yes, I do agree that indie perfumes are a subcategory of niche perfumes. All indie perfumes are niche, but not viceversa.
Are there sub-categories? What do you consider fragrances from stores like Zara, Bath & Body and Banana Republic? How about companies like Sterling (Armaf), Al Harmain, Rasasi or ScentStory? These companies don't seem to fit into the designer, niche or indie classification. Then there are celebrity fragrances.
I like smelling good. If it is a good fragrance, I don't care if it is designer, niche or indie. If I find an indie house that I like and can afford, I will support it, because they are usually small and need all the customers they can get. Also, they tend to be more daring in the fragrances they release and I sometimes like something a little daring. Not Sécrétions Magnifiques daring, but somewhat daring nonetheless.
yeah, I think there probably are (or should be) more categories for scents. The ones you mentioned are great examples of lines that don't seem to fit into designer/indie/niche. Maybe I should invent some new categories. LOL. I may add this to another video. :)
Loving this series man keep them coming.
thank you!
I heard confessions of a rebel cologne or perfumes are unisex and also a niche is that true???
Great video!!!
Where could I get Andy Tauer?
Any relaible place?
I just shot something like this. Good job.
cool man. I just subbed!
I love them all!!
Nicely explained Dave, cheersh :)
Where do you consider LUSH Fragrances belongs to?
They're hard to categorize within these three definitions. I suppose we need to make a few other categories. :)
I’m tired of designers they all smell similar no switch up I got 41 bottles rn and 38 of them are designer rest are niche I’m on the niche train not going back to designer unless the fragrance is a absolute game changer
Do you think he’s sponsored by FragranceX?
of course. I mention that in the video. There's even a pop up that says "sponsored content"
1:32 Why does he keep mentioning Dior Sauvage in that type of way? Is it over-rated???
It's a fragrance that people love or hate.
great video
first
i hate sauvage.
That is impossible. *Everyone* loves the smell of dried vodka vomit on metal with accompanying instant headache. It has universal appeal.
Scent Snob Well, Sauvage smells better than those stinky ass niche snobs that most of the time smell like a coyote area in the zoo 🍷
Designer scent means metallic synthetic mess.
Exactly, thank you. Every single scent at the mall outside of Mugler smells exactly as you described; all variations of synthetic metal vodka vomit.
Abdul Sufi Bullshit.