I'M STILL WITH YOU PHIL, I'M STILL WITH YOU!!!😅😅😅😅 This would have been a bloody nightmare to read but you've saved me and half my life, which I only have half left of............I hope. If you're ever in Prague drop me a line!! Right.... Back to part 5....😁😁
Mr. Tipping, I return to this series after some months away (doctorate) and rewatching from the beiginning continue to be impressed by your knowledge, brevity and insight into what people really need to know.
@aneyesky hope you're pleased with it when it arrives :) Don't forget to check/update the firmware and use a good recommended sd-card before you do anything serious with it. Thanks for stopping by.
Thank you Phil - that only 2 effects with guitar effect inserted was a huge gotcha and no troubleshooting process to undo it. Saved me hours of head scratching; I think I'll be watching the rest of the series to begin to get my head across this wee timorous beastie
Thanks so much for clarifying the limitations of concurrently running the Source Insert Effects and the Track Insert Effect. You should be on Tascam’s payroll.
Thanks Phil, You make mastering this machine a lot easier. There are some quircks that in the beginning make no sense, but your excellent walkthrough makes it a lot easier to operate the recorder. Looked up some reviews and decided to get the 24 track. Your videos were actually a part in the decision making.
+Mike Hydropneumatuc thanks Mike, glad they helped. Hope you made the right decision re. the 24 track. My 2 main justifications for the 32 track model were: 1. I was always short of stereo inputs on my analogue mixers, and this is a pain if you want to route synths, keyboards and effects (especially reverb) through it as they are all stereo. You *can* use pairs of mono tracks but you have to keep any level & EQ adjustments in sync. 2. Extra tracks are always useful for multiple takes if you are only recording a few tracks at once. As mentioned in the videos, it's more convenient to audition these than to use the virtual tracks. Obviously if these don't apply to you then the dp24 will save quite a bit in cash :) Anyway hope it all works out, so good luck with your new multi-track ventures.
As an amateur 24 tracks is enough. Got a Roland Jupiter 50 and Moog M32, will be adding a (undecided yet) Moog Sub Phatty or Sub 37 a drummachine (Roland TR-08 maybe) and some sort of vocoder. A guy at work pointed me to a digital mixer because of the error messages in case something wasn't ok. He does all sorts of production for amateur bands as he is educated as a recording engineer. Basicly I needed something that could mix and record 8 track simultaniously. Analog does sound better but recording analog will cost tons of money so the Tascam at €417 seems a perfect compromise. Where would this kind of money get you in the 80s?
Agreed Mike, sounds like you made a good choice. Some nice gear on the horizon - I can spot GAS when I see it ;) Might need tact to get it passed "the other half" if you've got one :)
A bit of GAS but i want to check gear for a month or so before making the plunge. Some really cool and affordable synths out there for now (ARP, Moog, Roland, Korg King Korg).
@ Jon Bristol no worries Jon, it's worth it in the end! If it helps at all, my step-by-step guide is full of practical 'how to...' tasks so you can tackle lots of things without getting too bogged down with the detail - no mention of block diagrams :) - full details and a link to the contents list are here: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Jon no idea who you are fellow stranger, but Ive just joined this same circus with basic knowledge of sound engineering and desire to make some beautiful noise. I picked up an SD 24 last week second hand off a whimm. Firstly i am going to have to repair the power supply input which is wonky, but I am excited already tho, just because Phil's explanations in detail and clarity are just SO good! Even tho I have no idea what I am going to do with this machine! im still Amped :)
Thank you for the tutorials! The manual isn't always as clear as your videos. So, cheers. Keep on going making those nice vids. PS I subscribed to your channel.
@dereksmallsuk Absolutely :) It's the careful application of effects (aka 'tools') like these which can turn a 'meh' recording into something to be proud of. As with all tools, they vary in quality, so you may prefer to use external devices to perform these functions, or you may find the built-in ones perfectly adequate; it all depends on your requirements. The how & why these tools are used is a complete topic in itself and is not specific to the Tascam machine, which is why the videos don't cover this, but there are lots of articles available if you search for recording/mixing techniques. Thanks for stopping by.
@philtipping I got a the Tascam DP-24SD a few days ago. It's a bit of an upgrade, kinda , from various multitrackers I've used, even though it's an old machine. I'm impressed so far with just simple condenser mic recordings of acoustic guitar.
Hi Phil, many, many thanks for your outstanding, patiently explained videos. I have a question - i like to use many varying effects across many tracks. I also like to record the effect onto the track as im recording, because i like to use the effect as part of the performance AND hopefully so i can also free up the effects for different options on later tracks. So is it possible to record the effect in real time to the track during the recording process, and then change the effect say from reverb to delay later on a different track, without altering the effect applied to the first track? Many thanks in advance.
@dosvidaniya397 I replied to this question in an email to you yesterday, but here's a copy in case you didn't get it, or if anyone else is interested... There are 3 types of effects - here's a summary if you haven't already seen it: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf They are configured in different ways due to how they are 'pre-wired' into the signal paths. If you're specifically after reverb & delay, these are in both the Insert(Guitar) effect and the Send effect. It's the send effect which causes all the problems as the return/output from this effect goes directly into the stereo bus, which is where all the tracks and inputs are mixed together. This mix is normally what you hear in the monitors/headphones so the effect is audible during recording, but that signal is not routeable to a track for recording there unless you are in bounce mode. This means a send effect can only be recorded during a mixdown, where it appears in the master file (as opposed to an individual track file), or during a bounce, where you nominate a target track for the bounce. Normally, bouncing is done after the recording (tracking) stage, but you can record live during bounce mode if you really want to - see video #11 for an example. You don't have these complications if you use the reverb & delay in the Insert(Guitar) effect, as this can be inserted into any track record path.... but the catch is there is only one effect block so you can only record it onto one track at any one time. I'm not quite clear on the last part of your question as once you've recorded an effect onto a track, the effect is permanently embedded in that track's audio, so the effect is free to assign for any other purpose without impacting the effect applied to the original track. It's not like automation in a DAW, where effects can be added non-destructively. The normal way of overcoming the limitations with assigning multiple effects is to use bouncing, so it's well worth learning the bounce process. As shown in the videos, there is no degradation no matter how many bounces you do. It just needs patience to run through the process multiple times :) This is where having lots of tracks is a bonus; many people ask why would they need so many tracks as they only record one thing at a time. But you can bounce whichever tracks you like and apply effects and/or pan, fades, eq etc, and the result will go to a separate track. You can repeat this as many times as you like, then choose which combinations of tracks you want to use in the final mixdown. You can even adjust the track faders in real-time during the mix to vary the combinations on-the-fly. An even if you still run out of tracks, you can 'park' some into the virtual tracks, or do a bounce of a few of them to free up tracks. The possibilities are endless. Hope this helps.
hi ,great info on your vids thanks, i have a newbie question , im thinking about buying dp24 for home recording song creation just myself not a band ,does this play nice with external effects ,i have tc helicon vocal effects and guitar pedals etc ,this way i would not be using any of the inbuilt effects , cheers
@tbeardmore1 Thank you Thomas. Yes there are 2 send outputs which you can use for driving external effects - see video 5. The only issue is the send output levels are not very high, so may struggle if your external effect devices can only accept the 'professional' +4 level. Some devices can accept the lower 'consumer' level of -10, and others may handle both (possibly via a +4/-10 switch). The user manuals should have this info in the specification section. You could also insert effects into the signal path *before* it reaches the Tascam... depends on the type of device. The Tascam inputs accept all levels; the 1/4" inputs are for higher line-level signals, and the 3-pin XLR inputs are for lower mic-levels. The H input can also be switched into high-impedance mode for handling signals direct from an electric guitar pickup. All of these are worth experimenting with if you are using a guitar pedal.
Phil, Does this insert sequence work with delay and reverb as well? I am trying to figure out how to use the internal delay on a vocal track and internal reverb on a drum track.
+Dave Hewing Hi David, you're getting 8 pre-amps plus the mixer & recorder for the money so logic implies they won't match more expensive ones... but it all depends what your yardstick is; they may be perfectly ok for your requirements. I haven't seen any comparison reports so can't really advise. There's no bypass as such, but the trim controls vary from line to mic so I guess when they're in the line-level position any colouration from the pre-amp will be minimal, so external pre-amps should be feasible if you prefer them.
Is it possible to use a usb memory stick (with a mini b adapter to the tascam) as the drive rather than a computer? Then, the follow-up - if I want to transfer track files from, for example, a tascam model12/16/24 to the DP24, I could just get a usb hub which would be connected to both tascams as well as a memory stick, allowing both tascam machines to access to each other's files via folder(s) on the stick (?) I'm trying to save steps in this process . . .
@mpr8570 I believe some members on the Tascam forum have used an adapter successfully, but I'm not sure of the details. It may have just been an extender for the sd-card as opposed to the USB socket, so you'd best confirm by asking on the forum. The USB port expects a 'host' device at the other end, which is normally a computer, so a normal hub between 2 machines won't work. There may be a free-standing device which can act as a host, but I don't know any off hand. As far as I know, the song structure for the DP machines is different to the Model series, so you would only be able to transfer wave files between them... individual tracks and/or stereo mixdowns, as opposed to complete songs with song settings. For tracks, you would also need to use the export & import functions; the zz wave files are track fragments so cannot simply be copied between different machines.
@@philtipping Thanks Phil. I'll look for that on the forums. In the meantime, my idea is to get a mini pc with each of the tascam units connected via usb... Just trying to make recording on two machines and then getting all files onto the DP as efficient as possible. Yes- I understand that I will need to export/import etc, to turn files into complete useable wav files. Thanks again!
@mpr8570 great idea; a mini pc should work a treat :) You should be able to copy files directly from one sd-card to the other... although I would be tempted to copy them via the computer hard disc so you always have a backup.
What a very clear and easy to understand video. It seems the manual is driving everyone nuts! Am I right in thinking that I can't add both compression and a noise suppressor (gate) to a vocal track? And if i can only add one of these, can I still add reverb and delay as well? Totally confused about the effects limitations. I can't find this information anywhere online!! Thank you so much, Holly
Thanks for the kind words +TheHollyQuigley. You *can* add both of those effects (to one track at a time). They're both in the Track Insert (Guitar) effect block. The block contains 4 different effects chained together and 2 of them are the ones you mentioned. Delay is also in that same block. Reverb is only available as a Send effect so can be added but not recorded unless you bounce the track or mix-down (will be covering these topics soon). If you want to see a summary of all the effect combinations, there's a definitive list here www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162
Thanks so much for that Phil. I also agree you should be on Tascam's tech support! I really wish this info had been more readily available when I decided to buy the portastudio - I'm afraid I'm going to have to return it now as it is not flexible enough for my needs. I'm so glad I didn't spend weeks recording vocal tracks before discovering the effects limitations. Thank you again! Holly
Ok Holly, shame it doesn't meet your requirements as it's a good rugged system. There doesn't seem to be much choice for a self-contained multi-tracker nowadays unless you buy 2nd-hand or switch to a computer-based solution, so let us know what you end up with. Good luck with your music projects.
@stephen hargreaves not sure what you mean by the term 'channel' so can't give you a definite answer. There are 3 types of effects and some are pre-wired on the 8 input paths, some on the track recording & playback paths, and some on both. The number of effects which can be used concurrently depends on the type, but this can be overcome to some degree by either using effects which are duplicated on the 3 types, e.g. delay and compression, or by multiple bouncing, where you can apply effects to different tracks, say, during each bounce. You can also bypass the 'pre-wiring' by using external cables to connect outputs to inputs, but this requires understanding of the signal flow to avoid feedback. Most of this is covered in the videos but this written summary may help www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/
@debunker300 understood, but input and track paths are both used when you are recording, as in your scenario with input A assigned to track 1. It also makes a difference if you want to *record* all those effects in a single pass, or just *hear* them on the monitors. The link I posted shows you can insert a dynamic effect into an input path, but they cannot be chained in series (there is a work-round to this later on). If you then assign an input to a track, you can also insert the guitar effect block into that track path, and the 4 'sub' effects within the block *can* be chained. You can also send the track to the send effect, but this can only be one of the 3 send types (reverb, chorus or delay) at any one time. So this is why you have to be clear about what you're trying to do. If you want Compression, a DeEsser, Noisegate and Reverb, you can see that the first 3 are in the dynamic effects, but you can only pick one of these for any one input... but there's also a noise suppressor and compressor in the guitar effect block, so you could use the de-esser from the dynamics and the noise suppressor and compressor from the guitar effect. Reverb is only available in the send effect, so you could achieve what you want, albeit not quite in the same order... but then comes the question re. recording vs. monitoring. The dynamic and guitar effect can easily be recorded live, but the send effect is trickier. Normally you'd add the send effect after the initial recording by using bounce or mixdown, but there are ways round this as shown in video 11. There are also other work-rounds to the dynamics limitations once you've understood the signal paths. e.g. you *can* daisy chain the dynamic effects by routing one input through send-1 back into a 2nd input, then routing this through send-2 back into a 3rd input. This would give you 3 different dynamic effects - say your compressor, de-esser and noisegate - all chained in series on your single vocal source. Obviously, use of send-1 in this example limits use of the internal send effect for reverb, but you get the idea.
I have followed allong the tutorials and using the latest firmware but when I select dynamics and turn an insert effect on pressing select through the four shows them all on. If I select off they all go off. So can i now have more than one dynamic insert effect on? I am just going simple with a condenser mic on input A. Of course a deesser, and noise suppression on the one input would be nice but as I understand it, I am only allowed one insert effect per track input.
@For Synth's Sake I agree it is confusing :) There are 8 different dynamic effects corresponding to the 8 inputs. Each dynamic effect can only be one of 4 possible types (compressor, de-essor etc.) at any one time, so you're right in that you can only have one of these effects per input (although see videos 14A & 14B for some advanced work-rounds). Whichever effect is displayed on the dynamics screen is the chosen effect for the input shown at the top-right of the screen. When you press Select, you are just *changing* that effect for that input. When you press on/off, you are inserting or removing that effect from that input path; no other routing is changed. The dynamic effects can also be inserted/removed via the mixer screen, but I don't recommend that method due the 'gotcha' shown in the videos... you can inadvertently change the type of dynamic effect without realising it (unless Tascam have fixed this quirk with a firmware upgrade). This effect summary guide may be useful: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf
Phil, thank you for this video, but I have one question and I called Teac support and they never pick up. Why is it that they do not let you insert effects into more than one track? So for instance, and in this video, if I select Insert Effect with the jog wheel for Track 1 and then go to the Mixer screen and select Track 2, if I turn on Insert Effect with the jog wheel, Track 1's Insert Effect is now off. This is frustrating. Is there a way to insert effects on more than one track?
@Bruce Chamoff - Musician and Songwriter thanks for stopping by Bruce. The limitation on the guitar insert effect is just how it is, unfortunately; it can only be inserted into one track at any one time. There are various ways round it, e.g. you could bounce tracks one at a time and pass each one through the insert effect. Or you could consider the other effects - there are 2 other types - the Send effect and the Dynamic effects, so it depends exactly what effects you want. There's a handy summary here: www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/ Whatever you do, you'll find you need a lot of patience... and that's the whole thing about being a recording engineer :) The machine is a complete recording studio in a box, so you need to think like a rec. engineer in order to get the most out of it.
@@philtipping Thank you. Yes. I do think like an audio engineer when using this device which is still awesome, although I am disappointed that we cannot apply guitar or send effects to more than one track, so what I am doing is using the device like a recording studio and then polishing the master file in my DAW. I will probably use the export each track as a WAV file, import into muy DAW and then apply effects to each track.
I bought a DP32 recently and I have recorded a dry vocal and tried to add compression tonight. I have followed the manual and youtube video guidance to the letter and still can't see why it doesn't seem to be working. There's just a few short steps to follow, so it's not difficult, but whatever I do, turning the compression on sounds exactly the same as off. Input is correctly displayed top right, but still the vocal is dry.
@fanfanackapan It's not clear from your comment but are you trying to add compression *after* making the recording? Normally you use the dynamic effects *during* the recording, so the recorded sound contains those effects. If you try and add them later, the signal doesn't go back through the input path so the dynamic effects will have no effect (although video #14A shows a way round this).
@@philtipping thanks for your reply; yes I was trying to add after the recording. It states that you can in other videos and also that you can add the dynamic effects to all tracks separately A through to H inputs, but last night, I couldn't seem to get any to work. They say to record tracks dry and then add effects/dynamics, which is what I was trying. I thought the send effects weren't working either, but I will study them later.
@fanfanackapan that's the problem with posts which just use the term 'effect' without qualifying it to say which type of effect they mean. You have to be precise with the terminology to avoid confusion or misleading info. You can certainly record dry and add guitar(insert) effects and send effects later, but you can't easily add dynamics(insert) effects later unless you use the trick shown in video #14A. Using the send system can be a bit tricky to set up, especially if the concept of 'send/return' is new to you, but video #5 tries to explain the principles. There's a free 'FX Summary' link on my website www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html#fx or if you get really stuck, there's always the step-by-step guide www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
¿Donde puedo conseguir estos tutoriales en español...?.. os lo agradecería muchísimo pues tengo una tascam d24 y las instrucciones me resultan muy liosas
+Sergio Orero sorry, I do not know if anyone has translated these videos. I've corrected the automatic sub-titles on a few of the videos so if you know how to translate these into Spanish, that may help. Or you could buy the step-by-step guide and either pass it through a translator program or find someone who could translate it for you. Details of the written guide are here www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Phil por favor.¿podria pagar en euros las cosas que me digiste? Unas instrucciones paso a paso que me indican en la direccion que me indicaste..muchas gracias.por tu amable ayuda.un abrazo
@@Sergius1234 If you click the paypal links shown on www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html it will automatically convert the amount to your currency when it takes the money from your account/card. If you want to do the conversions yourself, look up 'GBP to Euros' on the internet, then adjust *both* the currency and the amount in the paypal link before you click Next. If you need more help, please contact me on my email address: patipping (at) gmail (dot) com
Hi Anton. Yes you can do this by connecting an output to an input, although you need to be careful to avoid feedback. Here's one way using one of the Send outputs, e.g. to pass track 1 through Send-1 to dynamic effect on input A and record the result onto track 2: Turn all track and stereo faders down. On track 1, set Eff-Send-1 to Pre and turn up both Send-1 and Master-1 levels. Set the Monitor to listen to Send-1 (via the Monitor Select button), and confirm that when you press Play, you can hear track 1. Note do not move any faders, just the monitor knob. Press Stop, then rewind. Connect a jack-to-jack cable from Send-1 to Input A. Assign Input A to track 2 for recording the result. Arm track 2 Change monitor select to Stereo. Turn up stereo fader. Turn up fader for track 2. Confirm by pressing Play that you can hear the signal reaching track 2. For Input A, turn on the reqd. dynamic effect. Adjust settings while Playing. When happy, press Record. There are 2 send outputs so you could use 2 cables to process 2 tracks this way and record them via their own dynamic effect onto 2 separate tracks, all in one pass. You could also use the stereo or monitor outputs for looping back but there's even more risk of feedback!
Hi Phil. Thank you for your quick answer! It was very helpful. Although I don't understand this: 'As there are 8 dynamic effects, you can process up to 8 tracks and record them onto separate tracks, all in one pass.' Could you give an example? Thanks
Oops my mistake Anton - was getting carried away with the 8 recordable inputs :) You could only do this if you had 8 separate ways of getting the tracks out of the machine, but this is not the case. You could certainly do 2 tracks at once by using send-1 for one of them and send-2 for the other, then use 2 cables to connect the send outputs to 2 spare inputs, and assign them to 2 separate tracks for recording. There may be some devious way of also using the monitor outputs as well, but haven't really thought that through, so I'll stick at 2 concurrent tracks for now :) I'll amend the comment so it doesn't confuse others.
Thank you for making this video. I have one quick question. Is it me or does it seem like the dynamic affect compression doesn't really compress? I know the guitar effect compressor does very well but it seems like the dynamic compressor only controls volume. I can't seem to get that squash to sound
+king kroll invention thanks for the feedback. Haven't compared the two myself, but there is a bit of a knack to operate a compressor. There are several articles on the internet which may help, e.g. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/compression-made-easy and www.residentadvisor.net/features/1595 Failing that, try asking on the Tascam forum if there's a specific issue with the dp machine's compressor.
Phil Tipping thank you,,, many years ago when I first got the machine I called Tascam to talk to them about it. His explanation was it really didn't work as a normal compressor which I found hard to believe. Why call it a compressor when all it does is control volume?. I've had awesome results with this machine it took a while to get to know how to use it and I had to do an upload from the internet because there was something I think that needed correction
That's very interesting, thanks for the heads-up. I'll do some experiments when the studio is re-assembled - can't check right now as am in the middle of moving house - but like you I find it hard to believe. It wouldn't be the first time Tascam sales/marketing have got their facts wrong... their official video on the dp24/32 says the dynamics effects must all be the same across the 8 inputs, but this is incorrect, so they're doing the machine a dis-service by saying it's more limited than it really is. Might be worth starting a discussion on the Tascam forum - I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the compressor before so would be an interesting topic.
Phil Tipping it could be that mine are defective? The gain on it works but the ratio threshold and attack seem to do nothing. The desser works the noise suppressor works and the e Exciter works. I just took his word.
That sounds very odd. I'm sure I would have noticed if these weren't working. I'd be very surprised if your machine is defective as it's all done in software inside the machine so the only way it wouldn't work is if the firmware was corrupted - in which case I would expect the whole thing to crash - it would need a very specific type of corruption to just affect those controls. Are you using the latest firmware for your model? If you are, then the only thing left is operator error - are you definitely sure you are using the controls correctly? *Update*.. have just unpacked the dp32sd and tried a dynamic mic with headphones. Not a very good test as I could hear myself directly as well as through the phones, but it was enough to show the controls work. I tried setting them to the extremes - threshold -32, ratio inf:1, attack 2ms, release 1000ms, and the gain at about 18db so I could hear the background noise in the room. If you make a short sound, you'll hear the background noise instantly drop, then you'll hear it rise slowly over the 1 second release time. You can test the other controls... e.g. turn the attack up to delay the onset of the gain reduction. Although this is a very crude test, it certainly seems to be working. I'll need to do a more thorough test with a different sound source but maybe this is enough to convince you to try some more tests yourself.
@radiovoice1968 I'm not sure what you need for a podcast. The machine has multiple mic inputs and can be used as a live mixer with effects. It might be overkill for what you want, but without seeing a diagram showing the gear you plan to use and how you want to connect it, it's difficult to advise.
Hi, Phill. I have a question about the dynamic effect that is: Is it possible to adjust the noise of a channel only before recording? Or beforehand? For example, if after recording a voice on a channel and realizing there is a lot of noise I can not use threshhold to mitigate or eliminate this noise? Thank you in advance for the answer
Hi +Joanilson Rodrigues. You cannot re-use the dynamic effects after recording as they can only be inserted in the *input* paths. You could route the track playback signal back to the input using a cable and record it onto a spare track, but there is an easier way... use the noise suppressor in the track insert (guitar) effect. This effect can be inserted in the track playback path so you can record the result, either onto a spare track via bouncing, or onto the master file via the mixdown process. You can see the duplication of effect types in this summary www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/
On TascamDP24SD with firmware 1.09, adding any of the Insert Dynamics Effects the source channel, seems to add all four of the Dynamics effects on that particular source channel as displayed by presssing the SELECT (F3). Is this a bug on Firmware 1.09? thanks.
@Tony Fernandez no it's not a bug. It's the display which is confusing; it does not add all four effects. Only the effect which is currently showing on the Dynamics screen is the one which is inserted. If you press Select to choose another effect, you are just changing the effect from one to the other. Hope that clarifies it.
I’m thinking about buying this portastudio. Does anyone know if you can you hear insert effects (reverb and delay) on the input bus - or are you only able to apply them on mixdown? Thanks!
+Danny Kuperberg if you really mean 'hear', as opposed to 'record', then yes you can do this, although there is no 'reverb' in the insert effects. Reverb is only available in the send effect, which can be heard during recording. Delay is in the send effect and also in the guitar insert effect. There is a summary of all effects here www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/ Inputs can be routed to the send effect via the stereo assign path and/or the track assign path. The guitar insert effect can be inserted in either the track record path or the track playback path. If you really meant 'record', then only the insert effects can be recorded easily. It is possible to record (and hear) the send effect by physically connecting the output to a spare input, but this needs care to avoid feedback. A safer way of doing this uses the bounce system, and is shown in video tutorial 11. More details and explanations are in the Step-by-Step Guide www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Thanks - and yes I did mean 'hear' and 'record'. As someone who's worked in the analog mixing desk world for about 30 years, I'm trying to get my head around the world of digital mixing, so your videos are INVALUABLE. Thank you. My big issue with the DP32 is the long-winded way for its setup and re-routing as a basic line-in mixer. Everything else stems from this. And also the very basic nature of the effects capacity and parameters; and of course the dinky small size of it the mixer itselfl! @@philtipping
@@PianoDanny Thanks Danny. Well it's fairly straightforward to configure as a straight-through mixer with 'traditional' track faders (shown in vid 6A)... you just need to assign your 8 inputs to tracks, and to arm them so they are routed to the stereo mix bus. Setting up a template is fiddly but that's just a one-off exercise and well worth the hassle. I agree the FX & EQ controls are fiddly as there's only one set of knobs... quite a shock when you're used to a channel strip on a traditional mixer :) Another option may be the new Model 24, but this isn't really geared for post-processing in the box like the DP models unless you link in a computer. Hope you find something suitable.
Hello again Phil (sure glad I found you : ) I have a follow up question for you. I don't understand why the Dynamic effects (compression, noise suppression, etc.) can all be utilized and heard on any selected tracks when recording live but the Send effects cannot be, especially in regards to reverb as I originally asked you about. When singing and recording live vocals, using reverb is a traditional necessity so I'm having a hard time grasping why this basic feature is absent. Thanks again for the assistance. Jeff R.
Jeff - yes, as mentioned in the tutorials, the operation is not intuitive once you start digging down. That's why I've emphasised the block diagram so much - it may alienate people but it's the only way of explaining how the different effects work. The Dynamic effects are 'Input Insert' effects so they intercept any of the 8 inputs, whether they're being recorded or just being passed straight though. The Send effect is fed by tapping off a portion of any track or input signal. The Send effect output only goes to the stereo output in normal multi-track operation. This means you can always hear it, but it is not recorded unless you can route the output back to a recordable input. This is what Bounce does. You're right when you say using reverb is a traditional necessity, but the feature is definitely not absent - it can be added and heard during recording and/or playback. The catch is that is cannot easily be recorded. As mentioned on the other comment, it's easy to fool yourself that the effect has been recorded as the Send effect is tapped off the track signals regardless of whether they are being recorded or played back.
Hi Phil, I think I am beginning to understand more about this now. Your block diagrams are actually very helpful in explaining the process. You said that the "Send effects" can be heard during recording... I think that is where I'm having trouble. How do you accomplish that? I've tried multiple times to monitor reverb while recording live but nothing works. I'm sure I'm just missing something simple. The Tascam user manual is pretty useless. Thank you very much. Jeff R.
Are you already able to hear (monitor) your signal while it's being recorded? If so, then you just need to 'send' some of that signal to the internal send effect... Turn up the levels for the Send-1 path. Don't use Send-2 as this only goes to the external socket. The details are in tutorial no. 5, but basically you turn up the two send levels which are shown in the mixer screen. There's a level for each track or input (i.e. whatever you 'Select') - this is called Send EFF 1, and a master level which controls all the sends in bulk - this is called Send MASTER 1. This is only half the story as you also have to get the signal back from the effect itself - this is the Return level, and is set in the Effect screen. If any of these levels are zero, you won't hear any reverb. The effect output is mixed with any other signals on the the stereo bus, so you'll be able to hear the reverb on the stereo outputs and the monitor outputs/headphones, assuming the Monitor Select is set to Stereo.
Ok great Phil! I'm going to watch your tutorial video # 5 and follow these steps you provided and get this to work. There is certainly a little more of a learning curve to this unit compared to the DP03 SD. I was so used to having a simple reverb knob for each track that I guess I was spoiled. Thanks for explaining how this all works. Jeff R.
Yes, it would have been much better to carry forwards the dp-03 system with a reverb (send) knob for each track on to the dp24/32, but I guess it would have increased the cost too much. More tracks means more knobs, but also there are 2 send paths so they'd have to double that. Far easier & cheaper to move it all into a menu. This is one of my pet hates with 'modern' gear - I much prefer one function per knob and no menus, but then the gear is so complex nowadays it would cost the earth and be too big to fit in the room! :)
I have a Tascam DP24 and I took the mempry card out to put a new one in and I cant get the new one to work. Am I needing to do something I aint doing to make the new card work
@Jerry Hall you need to format the new card in the DP24. If it won't format, there are a few things to check. Is the sdcard 32GB or less? The machine cannot handle larger ones. Is the card on the recommended list of cards on the Tascam website? The card may be fake or faulty - did you buy it from a reputable source? Is the write-protect slide switch on the side of the sd-card set correctly. You can't format it if the switch is in the 'locked' position. Is the machine running the latest firmware? If not, you need a working card in order to update it, so you can use the original card for this. One last thing you could try - the card may be in a state which the DP24 cannot recognise, so try formatting it on your computer, then put it in the DP24 and re-format it there. Good luck.
Hi Phil, I have a Synth ULTRANOVA, a ROland 707 Drum machine and a BOSS 505 Looper. I have the TASCAM 32sd . I want to record my synth sounds and druk kit beats to the BOSS 505 Looper and create a song and then RECORD everything on the TASCAM 32sd. WOuld I connect all 3 instruments to the TASCAM by Stereo input and Would I be able to record the synth sounds and drum patterns to the Looper through the TASCAM? All of the instruments , once connected to the TAscam can hear each other or share the Sound source , Like a Mixer would correct? Your videos are amazing and I am going to def send donate~ Thanks again and much appreciated~
@mpix00 yes you can use the DP-32SD as a mixer to blend the ultranova and drum machine together, and then feed the combined output into the looper. You can also connect the looper output to another input so you can hear/record the final result. There are several ways of doing this depending on what level of control you want, and whether you have another means to monitor the looper output. If you want to use the DP-32 for monitoring the looper, use the the eff-send outputs (as opposed to the stereo/monitor outputs) to feed into the looper to avoid feedback; just enable the sends on the ultranova and drum channels. The inputs can be assigned directly to the stereo bus or to tracks, depending on what processing you want to add to the source tracks or final result, and where you want the final recording. Details for these are shown in vid 3 onwards for the 'simple' configuration, or vid 6A onwards for the 'advanced' configuration, but you can use one method for building up the loop and another for recording the result. Note the send controls are different for the 2 methods; one uses the inputs sends, the other used the track sends. Good luck, and thanks for the kind words.
@@philtipping Thank you Phil, I just sent you a lil Ppal for the thanks;) When you say another means to monitor the looper, do you mean by say hooking the looper up to a mixer? Sorry I am new to the tascam and using alooper as well. I believe I will watch the vid 3 onwards while using the tascam so that I can get a sense as to everything. Thank you ~
@mpix00 thank you Michael, that's very kind of you... much appreciated :) I meant you could monitor your looper by plugging it into a guitar amp for example. This would mean you wouldn't have to connect it to the Tascam while you're building up the song loop. The routing would then be simpler as you wouldn't have to use the send system to avoid feedback... just connect the Tascam output (either the main stereo output or the monitor output, whichever is most convenient) to the looper input. You only need to connect the looper's output to the Tascam when you're ready to record it. This all presumes that you you want to build up the loop within the looper *before* recording it onto the Tascam, but I may have misunderstood what you are trying to do. If the videos are a bit too in-depth at first, you may find the step-by-step guide useful; full details on my website www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
@philtipping ok that's interesting as I do want to build up the loops from the synth and roland 707 before I record. Now am I able to do that with the looper plugged into the Tascam? Also, how do I connect the Speakers to the Tascam for sound out of all instruments?
@mpix00 yes you can leave the looper plugged in to the Tascam. It's up to you what you do with the input signal(s). The assign screen is your 'patchbay', so you can leave an input disabled, or route it directly through to the stereo bus for monitoring or recording in bounce mode or mixdown modes, and/or route it to the track paths where it can be monitored and/or recorded in any mode. So you can leave everything plugged in and do all the routing as & when by simply using the Tascam controls. Speakers can be connected either to the monitor outputs or the stereo outputs at the back of the machine. There are pros & cons for using either of these; the videos show the difference, but basically the stereo output will be a mix of whatever signals are on the stereo bus at that time, so this will be any inputs and/or tracks as mentioned above. The monitor outputs (which also go through a headphone amp to the headphone socket at the front of the machine) will be whatever you've selected via the Monitor Select button; normally it will be the same as the stereo bus, but it can be other signals if you like. Both of the outputs at the back are line-level signals so you'll need an amplifier unless you are using active speakers. The routing possibilities are very flexible, and you can solve many 'problems' by understanding the signal flow, which is why the videos emphasise the usefulness of the block diagram. As mentioned, if the videos are too in-depth to start with, the step-by-step guide shows how to do all this as a series of steps without getting bogged down with the deeper understanding.
@emtytunes1 The dynamic compressors are physically 'wired' into the input paths so if you want to use them on track signals, you have to route the signal back through an input. Videos 14A & 14B shows how to do this.
Phil, I just bought the DP24 and can't thank you enough for this video series. I'll definitely buy the video disc and step by step in short order. Thank you for jump-starting my getting started. It would have taken me months to figure out all of this. How long did it take you to put all of this together? It's invaluable!
+Bob Chekoudjian thanks for the kind words Bob. Well it was a lot longer than I first thought :) - the upload dates span about 9 months. A lot of problems people were having seemed to be around general recording concepts as well as the machine itself, so it ended up being more 'in-depth' than planned... even then, some topics like punch-in and track editing had to be left out. Anyway, glad it helped and look forward to hearing from you.
Just a quick question, if you don't mind. How would you handle a click track? Would you just take a metering device and record it to a separate track? I haven't seen anything stating that the DP24 would generate a click track. I might be doing some long distance recording with other musicians and I'll need something they can reference to keep things steady. Thanks!
The built-in metronome can be recorded but it's a bit fiddly. The signal only appears on the monitor outputs so you need to connect a monitor output to a spare input... and be careful of feedback! The sound is very basic, so I prefer to use a drum machine or something more musical. There's plenty of tracks so dedicating one for a timing guide is normally no problem... and if you do run out of tracks, you could always 'park' one or more tracks onto the virtual tracks temporarily.
Phil i hope you can help me please Sir, i cant seem to be able to figure out how to connect an external effects processor to my tascam dp-24sd, can you please help me.
+Nightstalker john keel - Hi John, it depends how you want to use the external effects. The video on Send Effects (tutorial 5) might help, or you can buy the step-by-step guide which explains various ways of coupling up an external effect unit - full details and latest contents are here www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
+Emanuel Schinhan - see page 59 in the manual. There's no 'count-in' so you'll have to just count a few beats yourself before you start recording. The metronome screen also has an option to change the position indicator at the top of the home screen to display bars & beats instead of mins & secs.
+living here yes you could insert it between your source and the dp machine if your source signal is large enough to drive the compressor, or you could use the effects send to drive it. The signal from the sends may not be enough if your compressor uses +4 dbu 'pro' signal levels, but some comps have an input sensitivity setting or gain control so this might be ok... you'd need to experiment.
'input sensitivity setting' mine doesn't have that. I think I'm going need a preamp but was hoping there were another way around it. Thanks for the reply and tutorials.
The compressor threshold control caters for different input levels so that might have enough range, and there's nothing wrong with turning both the send and master send levels up full, so you may get away with it. Have you got both bits of gear so you can test it?
The only way I could only test the comp (because it's new and I don't have other gear yet) was with a consumer line out which I believe is -10db and it was very quiet . Yeah, the send and master up full was what I was thinking but I can't be sure it would drive the comp. I've seen preamps that mic/line in and have around 60-70db boost, do you think that's plenty?
It depends on the preamp output levels - if that too works at consumer levels, it may still only be -10dB. I think the Tascam Sends are somewhere in between the -10 and +4 standards, so I would just try it... although if you're using this to decide whether or not to get the Tascam machine, that could be tricky :) Don't forget there's always the built-in FX. There are compressors in each input path, one in the track path, and a 3-band one in the mastering stage. If you're careful to avoid feedback, it is possible to connect the machine's output to an input and re-utilise the input path compressors (or any other dynamic effect) on pre-recorded tracks.
@Robert Ironside no there's no socket for an external monitor... can only suggest an external camera/monitor system directed at the screen or a DIY hack (if there is one)... or a very big magnifying glass :)
i should have read the previous comments and I would have seen Phils answer "If you try and follow the block diagram as shown in the tutorials, you'll see that the dynamics effects are only in the input paths, not in the track paths, so you cannot use them to add effects to pre-recorded tracks unless you route the output back to the input... possible, but need to be careful to avoid feedback. However, there is a compressor in the Guitar effect block, which is a track insert effect, so you can insert that into a track as it is playing back. This means the effect will be recorded during the mixdown process or a bounce process. Whether you mixdown or bounce is up to you - the pros & cons are described in the tutorials. Note there's only one guitar insert effect so you can only process one track at a time. Hope this helps. If not, drop me a line on the email shown at the bottom of my www.philizound.co.uk web site."
@Bernd Fachinger thanks for the kind words, Bernd. Haha - yes that would be nice, but I've had zero contact from Tascam, not even an acknowledgement. Feel free to start a petition :) Thanks for stopping by.
@Angel Palermo there are several values which affect the compression. The threshold defines the signal level at which compression begins. The ratio defines how much compression is applied. The attack defines how quickly the compressor responds. More details are in the step-by-step guide, or just search the web for 'how to use a compressor'.
@Des OConnor depends if your DP machine has built-in MIDI or not. If it hasn't, see video #13 ruclips.net/video/ipAWAlqNtWo/видео.html If it has, there are MIDI settings in the Menu. I don't have one of these machines so can't tell you the exact buttons to press, but someone on the Tascam forum will know.
@@philtipping thanks Phil ..I will take you advise and check the video out and report back . I’ve given up on computer DAWS for complete projects and recently reverted to using my ancient Akai 16 track ..it does sync but the work flow and metering with 32 is so superior…thanks 👍🎩
@@desoconnor7445 Glad it helped. Those 2nd-hand sync boxes do crop up regularly so keep your eyes peeled... and be patient :) There's a list of candidates in the description so there are more choices than just the Yamaha box. Good luck.
I Want to connect my Tascam DP 24 on my computer I Do not Know what cable one should use for it to work on PC makes me a tutorial to see how it can be connected please Bro👍
Hi +Lansan Rappeur - it depends what you want to do with the PC. To transfer digital wave *files* in either direction, you can use a USB cable or just physically move the sd-card. To record audio in real-time from the PC into the DP24, you need an audio cable which splits into two - one end needs a 3.5mm stereo jack plug for the computer line output, the other 2 cables need a 1/4" mono jack plug for using two of the inputs on the DP24 - these will be the left & right signals. To playback audio in real-time from the DP24 into the PC, the same splitter cable can be used to connect the DP24 monitor outputs (left & right) to the line input on your PC. It may overload it if the PC input only has a mic input although some PCs can switch the input sensitivity between mic and line. If you want to use the DP24 stereo outputs instead, you'll need phono/rca plugs instead of the 1/4" jack plugs. Hope that helps. If not, give me a shout using the email address at the bottom of my website www.philizound.co.uk
I mean, it's nice to have these effects as an option. But the limitation kind of makes me just record dry channels, import them in my daw, and just go on from there right? why go through all the hassle? I say this is kind of a con for this device, you got all these possible input effects, but you can only assign 8 at the same time. Nice that you can compress each input though.
@The humble musician there's nothing wrong with doing that. There's no such thing as a perfect system so you just have to learn to work round the shortcomings :) These 'portastudio' machines are targeted at people who don't have (or don't want to use) a DAW - the Model 16/24 machines may be more suitable for what you're doing, but they're more expensive. Another option might be a free-standing audio-to-usb interface box, although these are not as 'hands-on' as the above.
@KountryCuz1 Basically it 'brightens up' the sound. It's more complex than just using EQ to increase high frequencies, as it uses other techniques such as creating additional high frequencies from the original sound. According to Wikipedia - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exciter_(effect) - an exciter (also called a harmonic exciter or aural exciter) is an audio signal processing technique used to enhance a signal by dynamic equalization, phase manipulation, harmonic synthesis of (usually) high frequency signals, and through the addition of subtle harmonic distortion. The Aphex Aural Exciter was one of first commercial units - www.aphex.com/products/exciter
Phil, I have one more question. Is the Dynamics screen only good for inputs and not tracks? In your video, when you selected a source input and pressed Dynamics, the Input letter showed in the Dynamics screen. Can you also apply this to tracks?
@Bruce Chamoff - Musician and Songwriter you're right, those effects are 'pre-wired' in the input paths... but you can still access them from tracks if you route a signal back to them. Videos 14A & 14B show some ideas.
@Jaime Povea the send-1 bus goes to the internal send effect. This video shows the 'dynamic' effects which are completely different to the send effects. Video #5 in this series describes the send effect. This summary shows which effects are available and where they can be used: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf
I'M STILL WITH YOU PHIL, I'M STILL WITH YOU!!!😅😅😅😅 This would have been a bloody nightmare to read but you've saved me and half my life, which I only have half left of............I hope. If you're ever in Prague drop me a line!! Right.... Back to part 5....😁😁
@jonnyhead keep at it Jonny... that platinum album awaits :)
Mr. Tipping, I return to this series after some months away (doctorate) and rewatching from the beiginning continue to be impressed by your knowledge, brevity and insight into what people really need to know.
@reverendayglow many thanks for your kind words. Good luck with your recordings.
Treasure trove master class. And I don’t even have my dp24sd yet. A few more days , and I’m already way ahead mentally. Thank you Phil!
@aneyesky hope you're pleased with it when it arrives :) Don't forget to check/update the firmware and use a good recommended sd-card before you do anything serious with it. Thanks for stopping by.
Dude these are gold for me. Thank you for this series.
@Andrew Dressler thank you; glad you found them useful.
Thank you Phil - that only 2 effects with guitar effect inserted was a huge gotcha and no troubleshooting process to undo it. Saved me hours of head scratching; I think I'll be watching the rest of the series to begin to get my head across this wee timorous beastie
@musicteacher4you thank you, glad it helped. Not heard it called that before, but beastie it is :)
Best wishes for 2022.
Thanks so much for clarifying the limitations of concurrently running the Source Insert Effects and the Track Insert Effect. You should be on Tascam’s payroll.
Thanks Wes... if only :)
Wes Anderson nailed it! 👍
100% agree here. Phil your work on this turorial as a whole is magnificent. Thank you!
Thanks Phil,
You make mastering this machine a lot easier. There are some quircks that in the beginning make no sense, but your excellent walkthrough makes it a lot easier to operate the recorder.
Looked up some reviews and decided to get the 24 track. Your videos were actually a part in the decision making.
+Mike Hydropneumatuc thanks Mike, glad they helped. Hope you made the right decision re. the 24 track. My 2 main justifications for the 32 track model were:
1. I was always short of stereo inputs on my analogue mixers, and this is a pain if you want to route synths, keyboards and effects (especially reverb) through it as they are all stereo. You *can* use pairs of mono tracks but you have to keep any level & EQ adjustments in sync.
2. Extra tracks are always useful for multiple takes if you are only recording a few tracks at once. As mentioned in the videos, it's more convenient to audition these than to use the virtual tracks.
Obviously if these don't apply to you then the dp24 will save quite a bit in cash :)
Anyway hope it all works out, so good luck with your new multi-track ventures.
As an amateur 24 tracks is enough. Got a Roland Jupiter 50 and Moog M32, will be adding a (undecided yet) Moog Sub Phatty or Sub 37 a drummachine (Roland TR-08 maybe) and some sort of vocoder.
A guy at work pointed me to a digital mixer because of the error messages in case something wasn't ok. He does all sorts of production for amateur bands as he is educated as a recording engineer.
Basicly I needed something that could mix and record 8 track simultaniously. Analog does sound better but recording analog will cost tons of money so the Tascam at €417 seems a perfect compromise. Where would this kind of money get you in the 80s?
Agreed Mike, sounds like you made a good choice. Some nice gear on the horizon - I can spot GAS when I see it ;) Might need tact to get it passed "the other half" if you've got one :)
A bit of GAS but i want to check gear for a month or so before making the plunge.
Some really cool and affordable synths out there for now (ARP, Moog, Roland, Korg King Korg).
Phil we’re grateful sir thank you
Thank goodness for your wonderful instructions. I had to come back to refresh my often-obstinate grey cells. Thanks Phil.
@collinstanton Cheers Collin :)
Thanks again for these videos. Going to take me quite a while yet to really get used to this machine but your videos give me a chance!
@ Jon Bristol no worries Jon, it's worth it in the end! If it helps at all, my step-by-step guide is full of practical 'how to...' tasks so you can tackle lots of things without getting too bogged down with the detail - no mention of block diagrams :) - full details and a link to the contents list are here: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Jon no idea who you are fellow stranger, but Ive just joined this same circus with basic knowledge of sound engineering and desire to make some beautiful noise. I picked up an SD 24 last week second hand off a whimm. Firstly i am going to have to repair the power supply input which is wonky, but I am excited already tho, just because Phil's explanations in detail and clarity are just SO good! Even tho I have no idea what I am going to do with this machine! im still Amped :)
Greetings from the Czech republic. You're a great musician.
@Jaroslav Koukola thank you Jaroslav.
Thank you for the tutorials! The manual isn't always as clear as your videos. So, cheers. Keep on going making those nice vids. PS I subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for feedback & sub +Frits Muziek. Hope to start part 6 this week.
Good video. But...are all these compressors, de essers, exciters, actually any use??
@dereksmallsuk Absolutely :) It's the careful application of effects (aka 'tools') like these which can turn a 'meh' recording into something to be proud of. As with all tools, they vary in quality, so you may prefer to use external devices to perform these functions, or you may find the built-in ones perfectly adequate; it all depends on your requirements. The how & why these tools are used is a complete topic in itself and is not specific to the Tascam machine, which is why the videos don't cover this, but there are lots of articles available if you search for recording/mixing techniques. Thanks for stopping by.
@philtipping I got a the Tascam DP-24SD a few days ago. It's a bit of an upgrade, kinda , from various multitrackers I've used, even though it's an old machine. I'm impressed so far with just simple condenser mic recordings of acoustic guitar.
Thank you Phil.
Great stuff Phil. I appreciate you insights. I just bought one of DP-24SD Thank you much
@Colin La Borde thanks for stopping by Colin. Good luck with your recordings.
Hi Phil, many, many thanks for your outstanding, patiently explained videos. I have a question - i like to use many varying effects across many tracks. I also like to record the effect onto the track as im recording, because i like to use the effect as part of the performance AND hopefully so i can also free up the effects for different options on later tracks. So is it possible to record the effect in real time to the track during the recording process, and then change the effect say from reverb to delay later on a different track, without altering the effect applied to the first track? Many thanks in advance.
@dosvidaniya397 I replied to this question in an email to you yesterday, but here's a copy in case you didn't get it, or if anyone else is interested...
There are 3 types of effects - here's a summary if you haven't already seen it:
www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf
They are configured in different ways due to how they are 'pre-wired' into the signal paths.
If you're specifically after reverb & delay, these are in both the Insert(Guitar) effect and the Send effect. It's the send effect which causes all the problems as the return/output from this effect goes directly into the stereo bus, which is where all the tracks and inputs are mixed together. This mix is normally what you hear in the monitors/headphones so the effect is audible during recording, but that signal is not routeable to a track for recording there unless you are in bounce mode. This means a send effect can only be recorded during a mixdown, where it appears in the master file (as opposed to an individual track file), or during a bounce, where you nominate a target track for the bounce.
Normally, bouncing is done after the recording (tracking) stage, but you can record live during bounce mode if you really want to - see video #11 for an example.
You don't have these complications if you use the reverb & delay in the Insert(Guitar) effect, as this can be inserted into any track record path.... but the catch is there is only one effect block so you can only record it onto one track at any one time.
I'm not quite clear on the last part of your question as once you've recorded an effect onto a track, the effect is permanently embedded in that track's audio, so the effect is free to assign for any other purpose without impacting the effect applied to the original track. It's not like automation in a DAW, where effects can be added non-destructively.
The normal way of overcoming the limitations with assigning multiple effects is to use bouncing, so it's well worth learning the bounce process. As shown in the videos, there is no degradation no matter how many bounces you do. It just needs patience to run through the process multiple times :)
This is where having lots of tracks is a bonus; many people ask why would they need so many tracks as they only record one thing at a time. But you can bounce whichever tracks you like and apply effects and/or pan, fades, eq etc, and the result will go to a separate track. You can repeat this as many times as you like, then choose which combinations of tracks you want to use in the final mixdown. You can even adjust the track faders in real-time during the mix to vary the combinations on-the-fly.
An even if you still run out of tracks, you can 'park' some into the virtual tracks, or do a bounce of a few of them to free up tracks. The possibilities are endless.
Hope this helps.
@@philtipping Hi Phil, thank you - I'll reply to your email this evening.
hi ,great info on your vids thanks, i have a newbie question , im thinking about buying dp24 for home recording song creation just myself not a band ,does this play nice with external effects ,i have tc helicon vocal effects and guitar pedals etc ,this way i would not be using any of the inbuilt effects ,
cheers
@tbeardmore1 Thank you Thomas. Yes there are 2 send outputs which you can use for driving external effects - see video 5.
The only issue is the send output levels are not very high, so may struggle if your external effect devices can only accept the 'professional' +4 level. Some devices can accept the lower 'consumer' level of -10, and others may handle both (possibly via a +4/-10 switch). The user manuals should have this info in the specification section.
You could also insert effects into the signal path *before* it reaches the Tascam... depends on the type of device. The Tascam inputs accept all levels; the 1/4" inputs are for higher line-level signals, and the 3-pin XLR inputs are for lower mic-levels. The H input can also be switched into high-impedance mode for handling signals direct from an electric guitar pickup. All of these are worth experimenting with if you are using a guitar pedal.
Phil,
Does this insert sequence work with delay and reverb as well? I am trying to figure out how to use the internal delay on a vocal track and internal reverb on a drum track.
Part 7 holds the answer.... thanks Todd
Hi are the preamps in this machine nice ... Is it possible to by pass the preamp and use like a neve ... Thanks David
+Dave Hewing Hi David, you're getting 8 pre-amps plus the mixer & recorder for the money so logic implies they won't match more expensive ones... but it all depends what your yardstick is; they may be perfectly ok for your requirements. I haven't seen any comparison reports so can't really advise. There's no bypass as such, but the trim controls vary from line to mic so I guess when they're in the line-level position any colouration from the pre-amp will be minimal, so external pre-amps should be feasible if you prefer them.
Is it possible to use a usb memory stick (with a mini b adapter to the tascam) as the drive rather than a computer? Then, the follow-up - if I want to transfer track files from, for example, a tascam model12/16/24 to the DP24, I could just get a usb hub which would be connected to both tascams as well as a memory stick, allowing both tascam machines to access to each other's files via folder(s) on the stick (?) I'm trying to save steps in this process . . .
@mpr8570 I believe some members on the Tascam forum have used an adapter successfully, but I'm not sure of the details. It may have just been an extender for the sd-card as opposed to the USB socket, so you'd best confirm by asking on the forum.
The USB port expects a 'host' device at the other end, which is normally a computer, so a normal hub between 2 machines won't work. There may be a free-standing device which can act as a host, but I don't know any off hand.
As far as I know, the song structure for the DP machines is different to the Model series, so you would only be able to transfer wave files between them... individual tracks and/or stereo mixdowns, as opposed to complete songs with song settings. For tracks, you would also need to use the export & import functions; the zz wave files are track fragments so cannot simply be copied between different machines.
@@philtipping Thanks Phil. I'll look for that on the forums. In the meantime, my idea is to get a mini pc with each of the tascam units connected via usb... Just trying to make recording on two machines and then getting all files onto the DP as efficient as possible. Yes- I understand that I will need to export/import etc, to turn files into complete useable wav files. Thanks again!
@mpr8570 great idea; a mini pc should work a treat :) You should be able to copy files directly from one sd-card to the other... although I would be tempted to copy them via the computer hard disc so you always have a backup.
What a very clear and easy to understand video. It seems the manual is driving everyone nuts! Am I right in thinking that I can't add both compression and a noise suppressor (gate) to a vocal track? And if i can only add one of these, can I still add reverb and delay as well? Totally confused about the effects limitations. I can't find this information anywhere online!! Thank you so much, Holly
Thanks for the kind words +TheHollyQuigley. You *can* add both of those effects (to one track at a time). They're both in the Track Insert (Guitar) effect block. The block contains 4 different effects chained together and 2 of them are the ones you mentioned. Delay is also in that same block. Reverb is only available as a Send effect so can be added but not recorded unless you bounce the track or mix-down (will be covering these topics soon). If you want to see a summary of all the effect combinations, there's a definitive list here www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162
Thanks so much for that Phil. I also agree you should be on Tascam's tech support! I really wish this info had been more readily available when I decided to buy the portastudio - I'm afraid I'm going to have to return it now as it is not flexible enough for my needs. I'm so glad I didn't spend weeks recording vocal tracks before discovering the effects limitations. Thank you again! Holly
Ok Holly, shame it doesn't meet your requirements as it's a good rugged system. There doesn't seem to be much choice for a self-contained multi-tracker nowadays unless you buy 2nd-hand or switch to a computer-based solution, so let us know what you end up with. Good luck with your music projects.
Hi, can you basically add four effects to one channel for vocals like Reverb - Compressor- DeEsser and EQ ?
@stephen hargreaves not sure what you mean by the term 'channel' so can't give you a definite answer. There are 3 types of effects and some are pre-wired on the 8 input paths, some on the track recording & playback paths, and some on both. The number of effects which can be used concurrently depends on the type, but this can be overcome to some degree by either using effects which are duplicated on the 3 types, e.g. delay and compression, or by multiple bouncing, where you can apply effects to different tracks, say, during each bounce. You can also bypass the 'pre-wiring' by using external cables to connect outputs to inputs, but this requires understanding of the signal flow to avoid feedback. Most of this is covered in the videos but this written summary may help www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/
@debunker300 understood, but input and track paths are both used when you are recording, as in your scenario with input A assigned to track 1. It also makes a difference if you want to *record* all those effects in a single pass, or just *hear* them on the monitors. The link I posted shows you can insert a dynamic effect into an input path, but they cannot be chained in series (there is a work-round to this later on). If you then assign an input to a track, you can also insert the guitar effect block into that track path, and the 4 'sub' effects within the block *can* be chained. You can also send the track to the send effect, but this can only be one of the 3 send types (reverb, chorus or delay) at any one time. So this is why you have to be clear about what you're trying to do.
If you want Compression, a DeEsser, Noisegate and Reverb, you can see that the first 3 are in the dynamic effects, but you can only pick one of these for any one input... but there's also a noise suppressor and compressor in the guitar effect block, so you could use the de-esser from the dynamics and the noise suppressor and compressor from the guitar effect. Reverb is only available in the send effect, so you could achieve what you want, albeit not quite in the same order... but then comes the question re. recording vs. monitoring.
The dynamic and guitar effect can easily be recorded live, but the send effect is trickier. Normally you'd add the send effect after the initial recording by using bounce or mixdown, but there are ways round this as shown in video 11.
There are also other work-rounds to the dynamics limitations once you've understood the signal paths. e.g. you *can* daisy chain the dynamic effects by routing one input through send-1 back into a 2nd input, then routing this through send-2 back into a 3rd input. This would give you 3 different dynamic effects - say your compressor, de-esser and noisegate - all chained in series on your single vocal source. Obviously, use of send-1 in this example limits use of the internal send effect for reverb, but you get the idea.
I have followed allong the tutorials and using the latest firmware but when I select dynamics and turn an insert effect on pressing select through the four shows them all on. If I select off they all go off. So can i now have more than one dynamic insert effect on? I am just going simple with a condenser mic on input A. Of course a deesser, and noise suppression on the one input would be nice but as I understand it, I am only allowed one insert effect per track input.
@For Synth's Sake I agree it is confusing :) There are 8 different dynamic effects corresponding to the 8 inputs. Each dynamic effect can only be one of 4 possible types (compressor, de-essor etc.) at any one time, so you're right in that you can only have one of these effects per input (although see videos 14A & 14B for some advanced work-rounds).
Whichever effect is displayed on the dynamics screen is the chosen effect for the input shown at the top-right of the screen.
When you press Select, you are just *changing* that effect for that input.
When you press on/off, you are inserting or removing that effect from that input path; no other routing is changed.
The dynamic effects can also be inserted/removed via the mixer screen, but I don't recommend that method due the 'gotcha' shown in the videos... you can inadvertently change the type of dynamic effect without realising it (unless Tascam have fixed this quirk with a firmware upgrade).
This effect summary guide may be useful: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf
Thank you so much for all the posts.
Thanks for support +Jay Mentzoni
Phil, thank you for this video, but I have one question and I called Teac support and they never pick up. Why is it that they do not let you insert effects into more than one track? So for instance, and in this video, if I select Insert Effect with the jog wheel for Track 1 and then go to the Mixer screen and select Track 2, if I turn on Insert Effect with the jog wheel, Track 1's Insert Effect is now off. This is frustrating. Is there a way to insert effects on more than one track?
@Bruce Chamoff - Musician and Songwriter thanks for stopping by Bruce. The limitation on the guitar insert effect is just how it is, unfortunately; it can only be inserted into one track at any one time. There are various ways round it, e.g. you could bounce tracks one at a time and pass each one through the insert effect. Or you could consider the other effects - there are 2 other types - the Send effect and the Dynamic effects, so it depends exactly what effects you want. There's a handy summary here: www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/
Whatever you do, you'll find you need a lot of patience... and that's the whole thing about being a recording engineer :) The machine is a complete recording studio in a box, so you need to think like a rec. engineer in order to get the most out of it.
@@philtipping Thank you. Yes. I do think like an audio engineer when using this device which is still awesome, although I am disappointed that we cannot apply guitar or send effects to more than one track, so what I am doing is using the device like a recording studio and then polishing the master file in my DAW. I will probably use the export each track as a WAV file, import into muy DAW and then apply effects to each track.
I bought a DP32 recently and I have recorded a dry vocal and tried to add compression tonight. I have followed the manual and youtube video guidance to the letter and still can't see why it doesn't seem to be working. There's just a few short steps to follow, so it's not difficult, but whatever I do, turning the compression on sounds exactly the same as off. Input is correctly displayed top right, but still the vocal is dry.
@fanfanackapan It's not clear from your comment but are you trying to add compression *after* making the recording? Normally you use the dynamic effects *during* the recording, so the recorded sound contains those effects. If you try and add them later, the signal doesn't go back through the input path so the dynamic effects will have no effect (although video #14A shows a way round this).
@@philtipping thanks for your reply; yes I was trying to add after the recording. It states that you can in other videos and also that you can add the dynamic effects to all tracks separately A through to H inputs, but last night, I couldn't seem to get any to work. They say to record tracks dry and then add effects/dynamics, which is what I was trying. I thought the send effects weren't working either, but I will study them later.
@fanfanackapan that's the problem with posts which just use the term 'effect' without qualifying it to say which type of effect they mean. You have to be precise with the terminology to avoid confusion or misleading info. You can certainly record dry and add guitar(insert) effects and send effects later, but you can't easily add dynamics(insert) effects later unless you use the trick shown in video #14A. Using the send system can be a bit tricky to set up, especially if the concept of 'send/return' is new to you, but video #5 tries to explain the principles. There's a free 'FX Summary' link on my website www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html#fx or if you get really stuck, there's always the step-by-step guide www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
¿Donde puedo conseguir estos tutoriales en español...?.. os lo agradecería muchísimo pues tengo una tascam d24 y las instrucciones me resultan muy liosas
+Sergio Orero sorry, I do not know if anyone has translated these videos. I've corrected the automatic sub-titles on a few of the videos so if you know how to translate these into Spanish, that may help. Or you could buy the step-by-step guide and either pass it through a translator program or find someone who could translate it for you. Details of the written guide are here www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Phil por favor.¿podria pagar en euros las cosas que me digiste? Unas instrucciones paso a paso que me indican en la direccion que me indicaste..muchas gracias.por tu amable ayuda.un abrazo
@@Sergius1234 If you click the paypal links shown on www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html it will automatically convert the amount to your currency when it takes the money from your account/card. If you want to do the conversions yourself, look up 'GBP to Euros' on the internet, then adjust *both* the currency and the amount in the paypal link before you click Next. If you need more help, please contact me on my email address: patipping (at) gmail (dot) com
Thank you for the well explained video! I have one question. Is there a possibility to add a dynamic insert effect to a recorded 'track'?
Hi Anton. Yes you can do this by connecting an output to an input, although you need to be careful to avoid feedback.
Here's one way using one of the Send outputs, e.g. to pass track 1 through Send-1 to dynamic effect on input A and record the result onto track 2:
Turn all track and stereo faders down.
On track 1, set Eff-Send-1 to Pre and turn up both Send-1 and Master-1 levels.
Set the Monitor to listen to Send-1 (via the Monitor Select button), and confirm that when you press Play, you can hear track 1. Note do not move any faders, just the monitor knob. Press Stop, then rewind.
Connect a jack-to-jack cable from Send-1 to Input A.
Assign Input A to track 2 for recording the result.
Arm track 2
Change monitor select to Stereo.
Turn up stereo fader.
Turn up fader for track 2.
Confirm by pressing Play that you can hear the signal reaching track 2.
For Input A, turn on the reqd. dynamic effect.
Adjust settings while Playing.
When happy, press Record.
There are 2 send outputs so you could use 2 cables to process 2 tracks this way and record them via their own dynamic effect onto 2 separate tracks, all in one pass.
You could also use the stereo or monitor outputs for looping back but there's even more risk of feedback!
Hi Phil. Thank you for your quick answer! It was very helpful. Although I don't understand this:
'As there are 8 dynamic effects, you can process up to 8 tracks and record them onto separate tracks, all in one pass.'
Could you give an example? Thanks
Oops my mistake Anton - was getting carried away with the 8 recordable inputs :) You could only do this if you had 8 separate ways of getting the tracks out of the machine, but this is not the case. You could certainly do 2 tracks at once by using send-1 for one of them and send-2 for the other, then use 2 cables to connect the send outputs to 2 spare inputs, and assign them to 2 separate tracks for recording. There may be some devious way of also using the monitor outputs as well, but haven't really thought that through, so I'll stick at 2 concurrent tracks for now :) I'll amend the comment so it doesn't confuse others.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your work.
Hi Phil This is my last question ;-). Can you also give an example of this method with an 'external fx device', please?
Thank you for making this video. I have one quick question. Is it me or does it seem like the dynamic affect compression doesn't really compress? I know the guitar effect compressor does very well but it seems like the dynamic compressor only controls volume. I can't seem to get that squash to sound
+king kroll invention thanks for the feedback. Haven't compared the two myself, but there is a bit of a knack to operate a compressor. There are several articles on the internet which may help, e.g. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/compression-made-easy and www.residentadvisor.net/features/1595
Failing that, try asking on the Tascam forum if there's a specific issue with the dp machine's compressor.
Phil Tipping thank you,,, many years ago when I first got the machine I called Tascam to talk to them about it. His explanation was it really didn't work as a normal compressor which I found hard to believe. Why call it a compressor when all it does is control volume?. I've had awesome results with this machine it took a while to get to know how to use it and I had to do an upload from the internet because there was something I think that needed correction
That's very interesting, thanks for the heads-up. I'll do some experiments when the studio is re-assembled - can't check right now as am in the middle of moving house - but like you I find it hard to believe. It wouldn't be the first time Tascam sales/marketing have got their facts wrong... their official video on the dp24/32 says the dynamics effects must all be the same across the 8 inputs, but this is incorrect, so they're doing the machine a dis-service by saying it's more limited than it really is. Might be worth starting a discussion on the Tascam forum - I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the compressor before so would be an interesting topic.
Phil Tipping it could be that mine are defective? The gain on it works but the ratio threshold and attack seem to do nothing. The desser works the noise suppressor works and the e Exciter works. I just took his word.
That sounds very odd. I'm sure I would have noticed if these weren't working. I'd be very surprised if your machine is defective as it's all done in software inside the machine so the only way it wouldn't work is if the firmware was corrupted - in which case I would expect the whole thing to crash - it would need a very specific type of corruption to just affect those controls. Are you using the latest firmware for your model? If you are, then the only thing left is operator error - are you definitely sure you are using the controls correctly?
*Update*.. have just unpacked the dp32sd and tried a dynamic mic with headphones. Not a very good test as I could hear myself directly as well as through the phones, but it was enough to show the controls work. I tried setting them to the extremes - threshold -32, ratio inf:1, attack 2ms, release 1000ms, and the gain at about 18db so I could hear the background noise in the room. If you make a short sound, you'll hear the background noise instantly drop, then you'll hear it rise slowly over the 1 second release time. You can test the other controls... e.g. turn the attack up to delay the onset of the gain reduction. Although this is a very crude test, it certainly seems to be working. I'll need to do a more thorough test with a different sound source but maybe this is enough to convince you to try some more tests yourself.
Hi Phil, is this good for podcast purposes? Im looking at this and the zoom L12
@radiovoice1968 I'm not sure what you need for a podcast. The machine has multiple mic inputs and can be used as a live mixer with effects. It might be overkill for what you want, but without seeing a diagram showing the gear you plan to use and how you want to connect it, it's difficult to advise.
Hi, Phill. I have a question about the dynamic effect that is: Is it possible to adjust the noise of a channel only before recording? Or beforehand? For example, if after recording a voice on a channel and realizing there is a lot of noise I can not use threshhold to mitigate or eliminate this noise? Thank you in advance for the answer
Hi +Joanilson Rodrigues. You cannot re-use the dynamic effects after recording as they can only be inserted in the *input* paths. You could route the track playback signal back to the input using a cable and record it onto a spare track, but there is an easier way... use the noise suppressor in the track insert (guitar) effect. This effect can be inserted in the track playback path so you can record the result, either onto a spare track via bouncing, or onto the master file via the mixdown process. You can see the duplication of effect types in this summary www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/
Phil Tipping thank you so much. I'll try it. what a pity that it is not possible by dynamics. I'll go to this way.
As always great and helpful tutorial Phil!!!!!
@charlesdufrene6244 Thanks again Charles. Best wishes.
Thank You Chuck!
On TascamDP24SD with firmware 1.09, adding any of the Insert Dynamics Effects the source channel, seems to add all four of the Dynamics effects on that particular source channel as displayed by presssing the SELECT (F3). Is this a bug on Firmware 1.09? thanks.
my question can I just turn ON any of Four Dynamics Effect without turning all ALL on that particular source channel?
@Tony Fernandez no it's not a bug. It's the display which is confusing; it does not add all four effects. Only the effect which is currently showing on the Dynamics screen is the one which is inserted. If you press Select to choose another effect, you are just changing the effect from one to the other.
Hope that clarifies it.
@@philtipping 😊
@@philtipping thanks
I’m thinking about buying this portastudio. Does anyone know if you can you hear insert effects (reverb and delay) on the input bus - or are you only able to apply them on mixdown?
Thanks!
+Danny Kuperberg if you really mean 'hear', as opposed to 'record', then yes you can do this, although there is no 'reverb' in the insert effects. Reverb is only available in the send effect, which can be heard during recording. Delay is in the send effect and also in the guitar insert effect. There is a summary of all effects here www.tascamforums.com/threads/dp24-32-fx-definitive-summary-of-effects.4162/ Inputs can be routed to the send effect via the stereo assign path and/or the track assign path. The guitar insert effect can be inserted in either the track record path or the track playback path.
If you really meant 'record', then only the insert effects can be recorded easily. It is possible to record (and hear) the send effect by physically connecting the output to a spare input, but this needs care to avoid feedback. A safer way of doing this uses the bounce system, and is shown in video tutorial 11. More details and explanations are in the Step-by-Step Guide www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
Thanks - and yes I did mean 'hear' and 'record'. As someone who's worked in the analog mixing desk world for about 30 years, I'm trying to get my head around the world of digital mixing, so your videos are INVALUABLE. Thank you.
My big issue with the DP32 is the long-winded way for its setup and re-routing as a basic line-in mixer. Everything else stems from this. And also the very basic nature of the effects capacity and parameters; and of course the dinky small size of it the mixer itselfl!
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@@PianoDanny Thanks Danny. Well it's fairly straightforward to configure as a straight-through mixer with 'traditional' track faders (shown in vid 6A)... you just need to assign your 8 inputs to tracks, and to arm them so they are routed to the stereo mix bus. Setting up a template is fiddly but that's just a one-off exercise and well worth the hassle. I agree the FX & EQ controls are fiddly as there's only one set of knobs... quite a shock when you're used to a channel strip on a traditional mixer :)
Another option may be the new Model 24, but this isn't really geared for post-processing in the box like the DP models unless you link in a computer. Hope you find something suitable.
Hello again Phil (sure glad I found you : ) I have a follow up question for you. I don't understand why the Dynamic effects (compression, noise suppression, etc.) can all be utilized and heard on any selected tracks when recording live but the Send effects cannot be, especially in regards to reverb as I originally asked you about. When singing and recording live vocals, using reverb is a traditional necessity so I'm having a hard time grasping why this basic feature is absent. Thanks again for the assistance. Jeff R.
Jeff - yes, as mentioned in the tutorials, the operation is not intuitive once you start digging down. That's why I've emphasised the block diagram so much - it may alienate people but it's the only way of explaining how the different effects work. The Dynamic effects are 'Input Insert' effects so they intercept any of the 8 inputs, whether they're being recorded or just being passed straight though. The Send effect is fed by tapping off a portion of any track or input signal. The Send effect output only goes to the stereo output in normal multi-track operation. This means you can always hear it, but it is not recorded unless you can route the output back to a recordable input. This is what Bounce does. You're right when you say using reverb is a traditional necessity, but the feature is definitely not absent - it can be added and heard during recording and/or playback. The catch is that is cannot easily be recorded. As mentioned on the other comment, it's easy to fool yourself that the effect has been recorded as the Send effect is tapped off the track signals regardless of whether they are being recorded or played back.
Hi Phil, I think I am beginning to understand more about this now. Your block diagrams are actually very helpful in explaining the process. You said that the "Send effects" can be heard during recording... I think that is where I'm having trouble. How do you accomplish that? I've tried multiple times to monitor reverb while recording live but nothing works. I'm sure I'm just missing something simple. The Tascam user manual is pretty useless. Thank you very much. Jeff R.
Are you already able to hear (monitor) your signal while it's being recorded? If so, then you just need to 'send' some of that signal to the internal send effect...
Turn up the levels for the Send-1 path. Don't use Send-2 as this only goes to the external socket. The details are in tutorial no. 5, but basically you turn up the two send levels which are shown in the mixer screen. There's a level for each track or input (i.e. whatever you 'Select') - this is called Send EFF 1, and a master level which controls all the sends in bulk - this is called Send MASTER 1.
This is only half the story as you also have to get the signal back from the effect itself - this is the Return level, and is set in the Effect screen. If any of these levels are zero, you won't hear any reverb. The effect output is mixed with any other signals on the the stereo bus, so you'll be able to hear the reverb on the stereo outputs and the monitor outputs/headphones, assuming the Monitor Select is set to Stereo.
Ok great Phil! I'm going to watch your tutorial video # 5 and follow these steps you provided and get this to work. There is certainly a little more of a learning curve to this unit compared to the DP03 SD. I was so used to having a simple reverb knob for each track that I guess I was spoiled. Thanks for explaining how this all works. Jeff R.
Yes, it would have been much better to carry forwards the dp-03 system with a reverb (send) knob for each track on to the dp24/32, but I guess it would have increased the cost too much. More tracks means more knobs, but also there are 2 send paths so they'd have to double that. Far easier & cheaper to move it all into a menu. This is one of my pet hates with 'modern' gear - I much prefer one function per knob and no menus, but then the gear is so complex nowadays it would cost the earth and be too big to fit in the room! :)
I have a Tascam DP24 and I took the mempry card out to put a new one in and I cant get the new one to work. Am I needing to do something I aint doing to make the new card work
@Jerry Hall you need to format the new card in the DP24. If it won't format, there are a few things to check. Is the sdcard 32GB or less? The machine cannot handle larger ones. Is the card on the recommended list of cards on the Tascam website? The card may be fake or faulty - did you buy it from a reputable source? Is the write-protect slide switch on the side of the sd-card set correctly. You can't format it if the switch is in the 'locked' position. Is the machine running the latest firmware? If not, you need a working card in order to update it, so you can use the original card for this.
One last thing you could try - the card may be in a state which the DP24 cannot recognise, so try formatting it on your computer, then put it in the DP24 and re-format it there.
Good luck.
"... and foot-tapping guitarists - you know who you are..." LOL!
Hi Phil, I have a Synth ULTRANOVA, a ROland 707 Drum machine and a BOSS 505 Looper. I have the TASCAM 32sd . I want to record my synth sounds and druk kit beats to the BOSS 505 Looper and create a song and then RECORD everything on the TASCAM 32sd. WOuld I connect all 3 instruments to the TASCAM by Stereo input and Would I be able to record the synth sounds and drum patterns to the Looper through the TASCAM? All of the instruments , once connected to the TAscam can hear each other or share the Sound source , Like a Mixer would correct? Your videos are amazing and I am going to def send donate~ Thanks again and much appreciated~
@mpix00 yes you can use the DP-32SD as a mixer to blend the ultranova and drum machine together, and then feed the combined output into the looper. You can also connect the looper output to another input so you can hear/record the final result.
There are several ways of doing this depending on what level of control you want, and whether you have another means to monitor the looper output. If you want to use the DP-32 for monitoring the looper, use the the eff-send outputs (as opposed to the stereo/monitor outputs) to feed into the looper to avoid feedback; just enable the sends on the ultranova and drum channels.
The inputs can be assigned directly to the stereo bus or to tracks, depending on what processing you want to add to the source tracks or final result, and where you want the final recording. Details for these are shown in vid 3 onwards for the 'simple' configuration, or vid 6A onwards for the 'advanced' configuration, but you can use one method for building up the loop and another for recording the result. Note the send controls are different for the 2 methods; one uses the inputs sends, the other used the track sends.
Good luck, and thanks for the kind words.
@@philtipping Thank you Phil, I just sent you a lil Ppal for the thanks;) When you say another means to monitor the looper, do you mean by say hooking the looper up to a mixer? Sorry I am new to the tascam and using alooper as well. I believe I will watch the vid 3 onwards while using the tascam so that I can get a sense as to everything. Thank you ~
@mpix00 thank you Michael, that's very kind of you... much appreciated :)
I meant you could monitor your looper by plugging it into a guitar amp for example. This would mean you wouldn't have to connect it to the Tascam while you're building up the song loop. The routing would then be simpler as you wouldn't have to use the send system to avoid feedback... just connect the Tascam output (either the main stereo output or the monitor output, whichever is most convenient) to the looper input. You only need to connect the looper's output to the Tascam when you're ready to record it. This all presumes that you you want to build up the loop within the looper *before* recording it onto the Tascam, but I may have misunderstood what you are trying to do.
If the videos are a bit too in-depth at first, you may find the step-by-step guide useful; full details on my website www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
@philtipping ok that's interesting as I do want to build up the loops from the synth and roland 707 before I record. Now am I able to do that with the looper plugged into the Tascam? Also, how do I connect the Speakers to the Tascam for sound out of all instruments?
@mpix00 yes you can leave the looper plugged in to the Tascam. It's up to you what you do with the input signal(s). The assign screen is your 'patchbay', so you can leave an input disabled, or route it directly through to the stereo bus for monitoring or recording in bounce mode or mixdown modes, and/or route it to the track paths where it can be monitored and/or recorded in any mode.
So you can leave everything plugged in and do all the routing as & when by simply using the Tascam controls.
Speakers can be connected either to the monitor outputs or the stereo outputs at the back of the machine. There are pros & cons for using either of these; the videos show the difference, but basically the stereo output will be a mix of whatever signals are on the stereo bus at that time, so this will be any inputs and/or tracks as mentioned above.
The monitor outputs (which also go through a headphone amp to the headphone socket at the front of the machine) will be whatever you've selected via the Monitor Select button; normally it will be the same as the stereo bus, but it can be other signals if you like.
Both of the outputs at the back are line-level signals so you'll need an amplifier unless you are using active speakers.
The routing possibilities are very flexible, and you can solve many 'problems' by understanding the signal flow, which is why the videos emphasise the usefulness of the block diagram. As mentioned, if the videos are too in-depth to start with, the step-by-step guide shows how to do all this as a series of steps without getting bogged down with the deeper understanding.
how do I route the dynamic compressor from input A to channel 8 ?
@emtytunes1 The dynamic compressors are physically 'wired' into the input paths so if you want to use them on track signals, you have to route the signal back through an input. Videos 14A & 14B shows how to do this.
Phil, I just bought the DP24 and can't thank you enough for this video series. I'll definitely buy the video disc and step by step in short order. Thank you for jump-starting my getting started. It would have taken me months to figure out all of this. How long did it take you to put all of this together? It's invaluable!
+Bob Chekoudjian thanks for the kind words Bob. Well it was a lot longer than I first thought :) - the upload dates span about 9 months. A lot of problems people were having seemed to be around general recording concepts as well as the machine itself, so it ended up being more 'in-depth' than planned... even then, some topics like punch-in and track editing had to be left out. Anyway, glad it helped and look forward to hearing from you.
Just a quick question, if you don't mind. How would you handle a click track? Would you just take a metering device and record it to a separate track? I haven't seen anything stating that the DP24 would generate a click track. I might be doing some long distance recording with other musicians and I'll need something they can reference to keep things steady. Thanks!
The built-in metronome can be recorded but it's a bit fiddly. The signal only appears on the monitor outputs so you need to connect a monitor output to a spare input... and be careful of feedback! The sound is very basic, so I prefer to use a drum machine or something more musical. There's plenty of tracks so dedicating one for a timing guide is normally no problem... and if you do run out of tracks, you could always 'park' one or more tracks onto the virtual tracks temporarily.
Thank you, Phil.
Phil i hope you can help me please Sir, i cant seem to be able to figure out how to connect an external effects processor to my tascam dp-24sd, can you please help me.
+Nightstalker john keel - Hi John, it depends how you want to use the external effects. The video on Send Effects (tutorial 5) might help, or you can buy the step-by-step guide which explains various ways of coupling up an external effect unit - full details and latest contents are here www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/dp24-32.html
I m trying to set a pre-count for the metronom when I m recording...how does it works?
+Emanuel Schinhan - see page 59 in the manual. There's no 'count-in' so you'll have to just count a few beats yourself before you start recording. The metronome screen also has an option to change the position indicator at the top of the home screen to display bars & beats instead of mins & secs.
Phil Tipping
thx !:)
Can I use a hardware comp as an insert or by any other method? Mono effects send?
+living here yes you could insert it between your source and the dp machine if your source signal is large enough to drive the compressor, or you could use the effects send to drive it. The signal from the sends may not be enough if your compressor uses +4 dbu 'pro' signal levels, but some comps have an input sensitivity setting or gain control so this might be ok... you'd need to experiment.
'input sensitivity setting' mine doesn't have that. I think I'm going need a preamp but was hoping there were another way around it. Thanks for the reply and tutorials.
The compressor threshold control caters for different input levels so that might have enough range, and there's nothing wrong with turning both the send and master send levels up full, so you may get away with it. Have you got both bits of gear so you can test it?
The only way I could only test the comp (because it's new and I don't have other gear yet) was with a consumer line out which I believe is -10db and it was very quiet . Yeah, the send and master up full was what I was thinking but I can't be sure it would drive the comp. I've seen preamps that mic/line in and have around 60-70db boost, do you think that's plenty?
It depends on the preamp output levels - if that too works at consumer levels, it may still only be -10dB. I think the Tascam Sends are somewhere in between the -10 and +4 standards, so I would just try it... although if you're using this to decide whether or not to get the Tascam machine, that could be tricky :) Don't forget there's always the built-in FX. There are compressors in each input path, one in the track path, and a 3-band one in the mastering stage. If you're careful to avoid feedback, it is possible to connect the machine's output to an input and re-utilise the input path compressors (or any other dynamic effect) on pre-recorded tracks.
Can you use an external [larger] video monitor??
@Robert Ironside no there's no socket for an external monitor... can only suggest an external camera/monitor system directed at the screen or a DIY hack (if there is one)... or a very big magnifying glass :)
An excellent explanation. Thank you.
+Hit channel thanks for the feedback.
how do i bounce tracks with effects so the new track has the effect recorded with it?
i should have read the previous comments and I would have seen Phils answer "If you try and follow the block diagram as shown in the tutorials, you'll see that the dynamics effects are only in the input paths, not in the track paths, so you cannot use them to add effects to pre-recorded tracks unless you route the output back to the input... possible, but need to be careful to avoid feedback. However, there is a compressor in the Guitar effect block, which is a track insert effect, so you can insert that into a track as it is playing back. This means the effect will be recorded during the mixdown process or a bounce process. Whether you mixdown or bounce is up to you - the pros & cons are described in the tutorials. Note there's only one guitar insert effect so you can only process one track at a time. Hope this helps. If not, drop me a line on the email shown at the bottom of my www.philizound.co.uk web site."
Super good video and trouble shooting! Have you thought about hireing as a software tester at tascam?
@Bernd Fachinger thanks for the kind words, Bernd. Haha - yes that would be nice, but I've had zero contact from Tascam, not even an acknowledgement. Feel free to start a petition :)
Thanks for stopping by.
Fantastic tutorials, thank you
+Freddie T thanks for the feedback Freddie.
Thanks Phil Great Info Love my Tascam DP 32 !!!!!!!
+KountryCuz1 thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for your help, very informative!
@MAGNETO thanks for stopping by.
So the higher the number on the compressor the more compressed the sound, the lower numbers lesser compresion.
@Angel Palermo there are several values which affect the compression. The threshold defines the signal level at which compression begins. The ratio defines how much compression is applied. The attack defines how quickly the compressor responds. More details are in the step-by-step guide, or just search the web for 'how to use a compressor'.
I’m a novice and I can’t find a way to sync to midi with my 32,can you help
@Des OConnor depends if your DP machine has built-in MIDI or not.
If it hasn't, see video #13 ruclips.net/video/ipAWAlqNtWo/видео.html
If it has, there are MIDI settings in the Menu. I don't have one of these machines so can't tell you the exact buttons to press, but someone on the Tascam forum will know.
@@philtipping thanks Phil ..I will take you advise and check the video out and report back . I’ve given up on computer DAWS for complete projects and recently reverted to using my ancient Akai 16 track ..it does sync but the work flow and metering with 32 is so superior…thanks 👍🎩
@@philtipping #13 is a great solution ..now I just need to find a YMC or similar device …thanks 🎩
@@desoconnor7445 Glad it helped. Those 2nd-hand sync boxes do crop up regularly so keep your eyes peeled... and be patient :) There's a list of candidates in the description so there are more choices than just the Yamaha box. Good luck.
Hi,the fader is motoring?
@Jey bhan prod no the faders are not motorised. If you saw them move in the video, it was probably just an edit ;)
I Want to connect my Tascam DP 24 on my computer I Do not Know what cable one should use for it to work on PC makes me a tutorial to see how it can be connected please Bro👍
Hi +Lansan Rappeur - it depends what you want to do with the PC. To transfer digital wave *files* in either direction, you can use a USB cable or just physically move the sd-card. To record audio in real-time from the PC into the DP24, you need an audio cable which splits into two - one end needs a 3.5mm stereo jack plug for the computer line output, the other 2 cables need a 1/4" mono jack plug for using two of the inputs on the DP24 - these will be the left & right signals. To playback audio in real-time from the DP24 into the PC, the same splitter cable can be used to connect the DP24 monitor outputs (left & right) to the line input on your PC. It may overload it if the PC input only has a mic input although some PCs can switch the input sensitivity between mic and line. If you want to use the DP24 stereo outputs instead, you'll need phono/rca plugs instead of the 1/4" jack plugs. Hope that helps. If not, give me a shout using the email address at the bottom of my website www.philizound.co.uk
I mean, it's nice to have these effects as an option. But the limitation kind of makes me just record dry channels, import them in my daw, and just go on from there right? why go through all the hassle? I say this is kind of a con for this device, you got all these possible input effects, but you can only assign 8 at the same time. Nice that you can compress each input though.
@The humble musician there's nothing wrong with doing that. There's no such thing as a perfect system so you just have to learn to work round the shortcomings :) These 'portastudio' machines are targeted at people who don't have (or don't want to use) a DAW - the Model 16/24 machines may be more suitable for what you're doing, but they're more expensive. Another option might be a free-standing audio-to-usb interface box, although these are not as 'hands-on' as the above.
What is The Exciter and what doe's it Do ?
@KountryCuz1 Basically it 'brightens up' the sound. It's more complex than just using EQ to increase high frequencies, as it uses other techniques such as creating additional high frequencies from the original sound.
According to Wikipedia - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exciter_(effect) - an exciter (also called a harmonic exciter or aural exciter) is an audio signal processing technique used to enhance a signal by dynamic equalization, phase manipulation, harmonic synthesis of (usually) high frequency signals, and through the addition of subtle harmonic distortion.
The Aphex Aural Exciter was one of first commercial units - www.aphex.com/products/exciter
Phil, I have one more question. Is the Dynamics screen only good for inputs and not tracks? In your video, when you selected a source input and pressed Dynamics, the Input letter showed in the Dynamics screen. Can you also apply this to tracks?
@Bruce Chamoff - Musician and Songwriter you're right, those effects are 'pre-wired' in the input paths... but you can still access them from tracks if you route a signal back to them. Videos 14A & 14B show some ideas.
bonjour madame je n'arrive pas à lire l'appareil en français
+Demestre Angelo click Settings, Subtitles, English>>French
THANKS
GREAT KEEP IT UP
Thanks for the support +Michael Caliri
Omg thank you very much
@GS DIGGZ (A1A) thanks for stopping by
@@philtipping these tutorials have helped me tremendously!
Thanks Bro You can not do a tutorial so I can understand Broh because I know not Speak too much English bro👍
How do I assign effect busses to record channels on the Tascam DP-32SD?
@Jaime Povea the send-1 bus goes to the internal send effect. This video shows the 'dynamic' effects which are completely different to the send effects. Video #5 in this series describes the send effect. This summary shows which effects are available and where they can be used: www.philizound.co.uk/freebies/dp24-32/FX-Summary.pdf
Thanks