For anyone playing along at home, string runs of cheap Kmart fishing line between your uprights to retain the insulation batts. The industry utilises flat packing strap material, but the cost is considerably compared to cheap nylon line
I did mine when I built it, kingspan closed cell, shed is 14.5 metres wide and 14 metres long, the other day it was 34° outside and the shed was 29°, I'm on the Gold Coast so it gets warm at times, I have two 750 diameter fans that keeps it pleasant. And if it's too hot, I have a fridge with beer and chairs to sit on. Lol Loving the shed life. 🤣🤣
The shed insulation works well. Most people don’t install it correctly though. Being a reflective type insulation it needs a 40mm gap minimum. Easy to do on the roof, but most don’t install foam blocks on the walls to maintain the gap to the wall sheets and this makes it no better than glorified sarking.
I had my shed built nearly ten years ago, 7x8 4 metre walls, I at least got the reflective insulation just on the roof due to budget. Even in central Australian sun with one whirly bird it is not noticeably warmer inside than out. But im lucky enough the front, rear and morning side don't get much sun because next doors shed and trees.
My life in a sweat shed, I got rid of the whirly birds as it brought in the fire embers and removed the clear sheets to solid sheets. Now looking for insulation to fill the roof first .. Shed is 14mtr x 6 x 2.75h 12 deg roof .. built it in 2000 ... Who knew I got old 25yrs ago and hate the shed heat now..lol
And you can screw stuff to the walls now too. There's a warehouse in Caribbean industrial park that's fully insulated, originally it was for medical supplies and now an electrical wholesaler (IYKYK), and they used glasswool in the walls and roof, inner liner is a perforated colourbond. Using full sized purlins all over, so there was more space to work with for insulation. Not fun running wires around, but you work with what you get. Stable temperature all the time, really nice especially compared to a 'normal' warehouse, which are cooler because of space but can still get quite warm/cold. If I remember right, it was a paper backed glasswool which held it in place. similar to what what normally used on roofs, just a lot thicker. Also done a lot of work with coolroom panels, that's next level. It's not weather resistant though, so you have to build a 'shed' over it all so it doesn't rust away or seal it fully and make sure the seal is kept in good condition. Not really DIY stuff, better to learn how to use it on someone else's coin. When we get a place where I can have a shed, first job after it's put up will be insulation. I'll have the luxury of planning it out before I fill it up though. So, when is the DIY mezzanine floor going to happen? You got the height to do it!
I don’t go out there often enough for long enough to worry about any form of a/c or cooling other than the fans. It’s rarely warm here, and was out there the other day when it was 33 ambient temp, and was 28 only and felt very comfortable working. The biggest hurdle for where I am is low single digit temps in winter, and I have a large diesel heater which is very efficient and cheap to run and think will work really well now with all the insulation.
Yep, the insulation is great. But like the carpet on the outside, it stops the metal from heating up in the first place. As you said before, you wouldn't get the wife's agreement on visuals. That is the great thing with standardization you can just get others' items and fit them in, some can be a bit fiddly but you can do it. Another thing you will see/hear is the noise reduction.
Don't let any sparks get inbetween any gaps mate I'd nearly go over it with something retardant to seal the board and gaps if by chance a spark did manage to get it's way in🍻👍
Fiberglass insulation is class A, which means it’s non combustible. Also tested this by holding a blow torch to a square of it for minutes and would not ignite.
Great acoustic properties as well, but very expensive. One cool room panel wall panel the same size as one of these wall panels (which cost around $7 inc insulation) is around $150. Most dyno cells are made of cool room panels.
I need to do my roof. I did my walls with white laminate chipboard on a frame with thick earth wool insulation. I just don't know how to go about the roof. But i have the blue insulation layer that goes on houses on everything which helped the roof slightly.
I did the roof panels with scissor lift, and then slid the roof panel into the top wall batten cavity, and then screwed them to the roof battens. If you have a lower roof, you could do it easily with two people on a ladder. I used the scissor lift as an extra pair of hands. It’s just 6.5mm OSB, so fairly light and flexible to work with (standard size of them is 2440x1440 and about 10kg a sheet). (The 3600x900x12 wall chip board were more like 40+kg a sheet! ) I had the walls done for about a month before I did the roof and it made a small difference to comfort level. As soon as even half the roof was done, the difference was as amazing. I’d say the walls being done will play a bigger role in winter at keeping the heat in, but for people only looking for relief from the sun, if you had to choose, I would only do the roof.
@BroomysGarage yeah you can get heat reflective paint, I'm going to paint my house roof with it. Would work the same for a shed roof and further cool down the interior.
For anyone playing along at home, string runs of cheap Kmart fishing line between your uprights to retain the insulation batts. The industry utilises flat packing strap material, but the cost is considerably compared to cheap nylon line
I did mine when I built it, kingspan closed cell, shed is 14.5 metres wide and 14 metres long, the other day it was 34° outside and the shed was 29°, I'm on the Gold Coast so it gets warm at times, I have two 750 diameter fans that keeps it pleasant.
And if it's too hot, I have a fridge with beer and chairs to sit on. Lol
Loving the shed life. 🤣🤣
The shed insulation works well. Most people don’t install it correctly though. Being a reflective type insulation it needs a 40mm gap minimum. Easy to do on the roof, but most don’t install foam blocks on the walls to maintain the gap to the wall sheets and this makes it no better than glorified sarking.
I had my shed built nearly ten years ago, 7x8 4 metre walls, I at least got the reflective insulation just on the roof due to budget.
Even in central Australian sun with one whirly bird it is not noticeably warmer inside than out. But im lucky enough the front, rear and morning side don't get much sun because next doors shed and trees.
My life in a sweat shed, I got rid of the whirly birds as it brought in the fire embers and removed the clear sheets to solid sheets. Now looking for insulation to fill the roof first .. Shed is 14mtr x 6 x 2.75h 12 deg roof .. built it in 2000 ... Who knew I got old 25yrs ago and hate the shed heat now..lol
And you can screw stuff to the walls now too.
There's a warehouse in Caribbean industrial park that's fully insulated, originally it was for medical supplies and now an electrical wholesaler (IYKYK), and they used glasswool in the walls and roof, inner liner is a perforated colourbond. Using full sized purlins all over, so there was more space to work with for insulation. Not fun running wires around, but you work with what you get. Stable temperature all the time, really nice especially compared to a 'normal' warehouse, which are cooler because of space but can still get quite warm/cold. If I remember right, it was a paper backed glasswool which held it in place. similar to what what normally used on roofs, just a lot thicker.
Also done a lot of work with coolroom panels, that's next level. It's not weather resistant though, so you have to build a 'shed' over it all so it doesn't rust away or seal it fully and make sure the seal is kept in good condition. Not really DIY stuff, better to learn how to use it on someone else's coin.
When we get a place where I can have a shed, first job after it's put up will be insulation. I'll have the luxury of planning it out before I fill it up though.
So, when is the DIY mezzanine floor going to happen? You got the height to do it!
Now time for a reverse cycle aircon and it’s 22degrees all year
Installed costs 9kw around $3000 you won’t regret it
I don’t go out there often enough for long enough to worry about any form of a/c or cooling other than the fans. It’s rarely warm here, and was out there the other day when it was 33 ambient temp, and was 28 only and felt very comfortable working.
The biggest hurdle for where I am is low single digit temps in winter, and I have a large diesel heater which is very efficient and cheap to run and think will work really well now with all the insulation.
Great idea, I want to do something like that
Yep, the insulation is great. But like the carpet on the outside, it stops the metal from heating up in the first place. As you said before, you wouldn't get the wife's agreement on visuals.
That is the great thing with standardization you can just get others' items and fit them in, some can be a bit fiddly but you can do it.
Another thing you will see/hear is the noise reduction.
Don't let any sparks get inbetween any gaps mate I'd nearly go over it with something retardant to seal the board and gaps if by chance a spark did manage to get it's way in🍻👍
Fiberglass insulation is class A, which means it’s non combustible. Also tested this by holding a blow torch to a square of it for minutes and would not ignite.
Nice work and on a budget
Just needs a lick of paint to bring some uniformity to it all
Great advice. Thank you.
I've heard using Asbestos is great for insulation 😂😂
just kidding Broomy, but god from 2200 to 350 is crazy! more money for big turbos and tires!
I was thinking cool room panels would be good for the walls
Great acoustic properties as well, but very expensive. One cool room panel wall panel the same size as one of these wall panels (which cost around $7 inc insulation) is around $150. Most dyno cells are made of cool room panels.
Never knew that about dyno cells.
Hard to find videos on people using cool room panels on a pre existing shed though
I need to do my roof. I did my walls with white laminate chipboard on a frame with thick earth wool insulation. I just don't know how to go about the roof.
But i have the blue insulation layer that goes on houses on everything which helped the roof slightly.
I did the roof panels with scissor lift, and then slid the roof panel into the top wall batten cavity, and then screwed them to the roof battens.
If you have a lower roof, you could do it easily with two people on a ladder. I used the scissor lift as an extra pair of hands. It’s just 6.5mm OSB, so fairly light and flexible to work with (standard size of them is 2440x1440 and about 10kg a sheet). (The 3600x900x12 wall chip board were more like 40+kg a sheet! )
I had the walls done for about a month before I did the roof and it made a small difference to comfort level. As soon as even half the roof was done, the difference was as amazing. I’d say the walls being done will play a bigger role in winter at keeping the heat in, but for people only looking for relief from the sun, if you had to choose, I would only do the roof.
Would painting the roof surface help lower temps further also?
As in the outside of the roof or the inside of the roof ? If it was a dark colour roof and you painted the outside white it would make a difference.
@BroomysGarage yeah you can get heat reflective paint, I'm going to paint my house roof with it. Would work the same for a shed roof and further cool down the interior.
HI What brannd of extractor fan did you end up using Please ? And where did you purchase it from? Thank you
I didn’t want to buy a big dollar one straight up if it didn’t work well, so this is just a Vevor one from eBay