was practicing just like this in my house a couple days ago and shattered the light fixture above me ahaha thank god i didnt get cut glass fell all over me
Woden of the Angles I’ll listen to your argument. Run it down for me. In the meantime, I’ll cite Mike Dunaway, Michelin Long Drive Champion, answering question about his power secret.... ‘keeping my trailing elbow close to my body in my backswing.’ I suppose it depends on how literally you interpret the positioning.
@@theopenstanceacademy487 - with respect, he's an anecdotal example and an outlier. 99% of long hitters do the opposite and 'fly' their elbow.. Easy way to test it is to simply throw a tennis ball while keeping your elbow tucked in - it restricts leverage and reduces speed (power) massively. people sometimes cite Ben Hogan, but he was a very short man, so his swing plane dictated much of his action. Interesting point to note, Matt Kuchar with his new coach has been working on freeing up his elbow to get more distance.. Thank you for taking the time to reply anyway. Appreciate it and look forward to hearing more from your channel.
Woden of the Angles Sure, I’ll stipulate as much. However, the point of my book, teaching, and video is simply to incorporate an idea - that leads to a structure - that prepares for repeatable impact. This is not a method where one-size-fits-all. I don’t believe in that. The thing I want people to get out of this idea is to get their elbow, as much as possible, inside the trailing hip pre- impact. Don’t forget, this is an Open Stance necessity, not an any stance necessity. Certainly, we can agree all great ball-strikers and long hitters on tour maintain the recommended elbow positioning. Moreover, I’m not trying to say the gorillas in the long-drive mist are normal golfers. These guys are all outliers. But, we can see pretty quickly how difficult it is for them to repeat solid impact. Their timing has to be MUCH MORE precise. Also, their strength allows them to maintain positions impossible for normal tour pros and amateurs. And, again, their golf swings are only meant to last as long as their musculoskeletal system will allow. (e.g. Jason Zu-back problems). I was hoping maybe you’d explain the Physics in your argument. I’m open to being disproven. At least then, I could move on with my life. Get back to me if I didn’t hit the right chord.
Woden of the Angles Almost forgot your mention of Hogan and Kuch.... I submit that Hogan’s elbow determined his plane and not vice-versa. He wasn’t trying to flatten. He was trying to keep his club from closing through impact. I wrote an article on Hogan. You can find on my website, openstanceacademy.com. As for Kuchar... watch what happens to either Kuch’s set-up or misses. He will square up, open up, or maintain his current foot orientation and shell it wayyyy right trying to get more distance.
@@theopenstanceacademy487 - don't get me wrong, I play open stance for many reasons. One of which is better speed.. But, my point does not require a physics interpretation. It's a simple leverage dynamic. And frankly is nothing new. It's a well understood bio-mechanical standard. I didn't mention long-drive guys at all. They are not particularly useful to teaching fair-weather weekend golfers (however study of their swings can serve to better highlight certain fundamental 'truths'). I'm not sure I accept the notion that restricting the elbow has bearing on quality of impact per se. That's not been my experience down the years. There are other, more significant, factors at play. Let's look at the greatest golfer to have ever played the game - Jack Nicklaus, a renowned ball striker. Fred Couples (as featured on your channel) is another good example in point. As is John Daly. All of them long-hitting, elbow-flying, 'open stancers'...
This is a very helpful video. Thanks.
I’ve created a BitChute channel now that YT wants ownership of all video. Stop by. JW
Interesting golf channel but the sound quality on your videos is very poor. Very hard to hear you.
I don’t disagree. Thanks for you comment. BTW, I’ve created a BitChute channel now that YT wants ownership of all video. Stop by. JW
How do I get your book?
Hi, Gary. If you haven’t found out already... it’s on Amazon. I’ve created a BitChute channel now that YT wants ownership of all video. Stop by. JW
was practicing just like this in my house a couple days ago and shattered the light fixture above me ahaha thank god i didnt get cut glass fell all over me
F the golf swing, learn how acoustics work.
Keeping the elbow tucked-in is a massive power loser..
Woden of the Angles I’ll listen to your argument. Run it down for me. In the meantime, I’ll cite Mike Dunaway, Michelin Long Drive Champion, answering question about his power secret.... ‘keeping my trailing elbow close to my body in my backswing.’ I suppose it depends on how literally you interpret the positioning.
@@theopenstanceacademy487 - with respect, he's an anecdotal example and an outlier. 99% of long hitters do the opposite and 'fly' their elbow.. Easy way to test it is to simply throw a tennis ball while keeping your elbow tucked in - it restricts leverage and reduces speed (power) massively.
people sometimes cite Ben Hogan, but he was a very short man, so his swing plane dictated much of his action. Interesting point to note, Matt Kuchar with his new coach has been working on freeing up his elbow to get more distance..
Thank you for taking the time to reply anyway. Appreciate it and look forward to hearing more from your channel.
Woden of the Angles Sure, I’ll stipulate as much. However, the point of my book, teaching, and video is simply to incorporate an idea - that leads to a structure - that prepares for repeatable impact. This is not a method where one-size-fits-all. I don’t believe in that.
The thing I want people to get out of this idea is to get their elbow, as much as possible, inside the trailing hip pre- impact. Don’t forget, this is an Open Stance necessity, not an any stance necessity. Certainly, we can agree all great ball-strikers and long hitters on tour maintain the recommended elbow positioning.
Moreover, I’m not trying to say the gorillas in the long-drive mist are normal golfers. These guys are all outliers. But, we can see pretty quickly how difficult it is for them to repeat solid impact. Their timing has to be MUCH MORE precise. Also, their strength allows them to maintain positions impossible for normal tour pros and amateurs. And, again, their golf swings are only meant to last as long as their musculoskeletal system will allow. (e.g. Jason Zu-back problems).
I was hoping maybe you’d explain the Physics in your argument. I’m open to being disproven. At least then, I could move on with my life. Get back to me if I didn’t hit the right chord.
Woden of the Angles Almost forgot your mention of Hogan and Kuch.... I submit that Hogan’s elbow determined his plane and not vice-versa. He wasn’t trying to flatten. He was trying to keep his club from closing through impact. I wrote an article on Hogan. You can find on my website, openstanceacademy.com.
As for Kuchar... watch what happens to either Kuch’s set-up or misses. He will square up, open up, or maintain his current foot orientation and shell it wayyyy right trying to get more distance.
@@theopenstanceacademy487 - don't get me wrong, I play open stance for many reasons. One of which is better speed..
But, my point does not require a physics interpretation. It's a simple leverage dynamic. And frankly is nothing new. It's a well understood bio-mechanical standard. I didn't mention long-drive guys at all. They are not particularly useful to teaching fair-weather weekend golfers (however study of their swings can serve to better highlight certain fundamental 'truths').
I'm not sure I accept the notion that restricting the elbow has bearing on quality of impact per se. That's not been my experience down the years. There are other, more significant, factors at play.
Let's look at the greatest golfer to have ever played the game - Jack Nicklaus, a renowned ball striker. Fred Couples (as featured on your channel) is another good example in point. As is John Daly. All of them long-hitting, elbow-flying, 'open stancers'...