I'm kinda mindblown by how effective I find your explanation of the size using everyday items works. The quarters are only so-so for me since I don't live in the USA, but using an A4 paper is straight genius. A request for next time it's relevant: Please try to hold the pads next to each other from different angles more time in front of the camera. It would have helped seeing the difference in key height, for instance.
@@nullfield1126 Thanks 🙏🏾 much appreciated That's a great point I'll add that to my checklist to better help you all get a view of these products Like you said I try to use house hold items because everything looks huge in a picture... So things like the paper test let you virtually feel the devices before hand and get a better idea Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
When you compared it to the mayflash, it really made me think that the R16 is Haute42's line of controllers that is made for people who own a levered controller and want to try leverless. What reinforced that, is the buttons are part of why I'll be buying one with my next paycheck. The buttons are incredibly reminiscent of your levered arcade controller. It's also really nice that it's wide so it passes the lap test like a levered controller would.
@@ferndiesel great points the R is a great entry point to the leverless life I think you're really gonna like it Can't wait to hear your thoughts Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Update: I love it! I really enjoy that I have options between thumb for up or to go WASD style [which I went with] and dear goodness, it's so nice. The guaranteed precision, using SOCD for easy KBD, the low time for inputs due to key switches. I feel like my ability to play Tekken levelled up off this switch alone! It feels like reading for the first time after finally getting glasses lmao. The buttons really help me feel at home, too. It really does feel like it's the logical next step if you wanted to use leverless after using a lever. And np! Thank you for the great content!
@ferndiesel Nice glad you like it that's a great pad And that style is so popular right now you picked a good one Glad I could help Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
just sold my snackbox micro to a (smaller) friend and was researching some of the larger pads(I'm 6'4) - and after of long time of convincing myself I was going to get a micro XL, I stumbled upon the Haute42 series and figured it couldn't be beat for the price. This review is no less than amazing. Not only the number of comparisons to similar devices on the same screen, but the usage of coins and flash drives, items people can easily picture/imagine, for size/thickness relativity is perfect. My only complaint was that you didn't highlight the lighting capabilities at all which can be a selling point for some people and I believe that this version does use the "crystal" switches that are specifically for the aforementioned lighting effects compared to their previous iterations. Thank you sir.
Thanks much appreciated I try to be as practical as I can paper test and all lol Great point I need to bring up the lights and custom color patterns you can set and custom button mappings you can do Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Good to know. I really prefer the smaller layout of the S13 or Mayflash even. The T13/16 are too spread out for my fingers. And it sounds like the R16 would still be too spread out for my fingers, despite the smaller button sizes. Hopefully Haute42 released a S-series wide lineup as you mentioned for folks with smaller hands like myself.
@@mintiefresh yeah it's definitely a great pad I show 2 friends and they love this pad and ordered 1 each But if you need tighter spacing this isn't it The ASI LvL would be a better fit It's a really nice pad and replaceable parts But ... Be aware the switches are taller like the G series not low profile like the S or T Review on the channel that shows the comparison Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Just got the R because i wanted to upgrade from the S and its so good, the rims really are a big difference for me when i do supers in strive I can just slide mi fingers through the left right down buttons. Also I am missing a tiny part of my left index finger so some imputs where difficult, but with the rims its much easier.... Great vids man thanks for the review
Thanks much appreciated I try to help as much as I can to inform everyone on what these pads and other things feel like in person to help you all make a good decision on what's right for you Glad it helped Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Thank you so much for this review. I was literally on the order page ready to buy it and I'm glad you talked about the button spacing. I have an S16 with the closer spacings and I thought the R16 was going to be a bigger S16, so very disappointed to hear that the spacing is the same as the T series.
No problem glad it helped much appreciated 🙏🏾 I had to delete my 1st review of this product and redo it because I thought not being a S wide was a negative at 1st not being an S wide Then I played with it some more and realized no this is a new product line and style on their line up and found out later that an eSports player in China won a tournament on this style and that's what made this style popular as well So coming from a different angle it's really nice for those looking for this style or a flatter lighter box style pad device For those looking for S wide which I get asked about a lot hopefully it comes soon definitely a market there fingers crossed for you Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
So disappointing to see that the spacing is pretty much the same as the T models, despite having smaller buttons... What were they thinking? There are many people with smaller hands that just wanted a bigger surface model with the smaller/closer spacing. I guess we'll have to keep using the S/G models.
That was my 1st thought also and ended up doing this review twice going from a negative because it wasn't a wide S To a positive that this is a new product that the box players are going to love and folks that never tried a box will love as well. When I looked at it that way I had a lot of fun with it And leaving hope for the S wide an S with no major changes just a wider base or the T base with an S pad inside The only issue is they're probably thinking folks will get confused by the T and S wide and maybe hurt T sales but I don't think so T and M Plus are my favorites so we'll see Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Yeah, I'm thinking the same. Ordered my R16, it's on the way and I'm kinda disappointed with the spacing. P12 has perfect button spacing but the size is not for me.
It's definitely a nice new design in the line My brother loves the button style so he liked the fact this is flatter or Flat Box style you could call it and easier to customize Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@hermontarmand2404 Thank you much appreciated 🙏🏾 I try to use what a normal person would have in the house to hopefully get the details to help folks struggling with their style purchase decision Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Yeah it's a tough one. The R16 is very compact and portable and so easy to customize both are nice to play on but I see where your coming from A lot of folks like the heavier base at events or in person and the audio passthrough is a really nice feature But the R16 with the wind engine or ghost switches and the o rings is almost silent when you play and really nice It's a tough decision Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Just here to say that even with the those button rings it's still hard to do those slide techniques you see on RUclips. The stem of buttons are high. It's possible but not as smooth as a leverless using standard buttons.
Compared to stock buttons I agree they do sit higher I tried to use the coins as some form of reference to a button A coin doesn't seem that talk but in situations like this they do sit higher than a standard button People will get used to it But I agree they do sit higher Same compared to the T or S they sit 2 coins higher which doesn't sound like much higher but it's a difference compared to the other models Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
What about comfort comparing the T16 and the R16? I'm planning to buy one but I don't know which one has the most comfortable layout, taking in mind the increased height of buttons on the R16. Also noise, does the R16 case produce less sound than the T16 when using it?
@@gabrielst527 R16 is quieter than the T16 Comfort is hard to explain neither is better I prefer the T large caps A lot prefer the R spaced out and rings Everyone's hands are so different and play style different I try to give the paper test and the quarters to help show if you put a piece of paper on a table with coins and tap your fingers you'll get a clue if you'll like it or not But honestly there is no better pad just more options for everyone to find what they like Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
It feels thinner and lighter for sure you will notice but not cheap in my opinion It's not half the size of T so feels similar just a little thinner Just the top last layer layer of acrylic is cut in half the rest of the body feels the same from what I can tell so far on the top you'll notice when you change the art If you just use it out the box it feels fine and sized and button spaced very similar to the T This is a nice alternative to a box style device Hope that helps Hard to explain without writing a paragraph paper in the comments lol I did a live stream with it last Sunday talking to the audience and talk more about it and playing with it that you can skip through about 13 minutes in and hear and see it more where I explain the pad throughout and compare live to other devices on camera Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment ruclips.net/user/liveQ6z1Ak5DNTE?si=fz3qxJbsa2jfraCr
There is only one problem and that is I don't see a link to order this Haute42 R16 controller. I have looked at each of the links you provided except for the Japanese. Please post the exact link that I need in order to order this controller 😅
Hi I put the links in the description. You have to use either of the 2 Aliexpress links. They haven't released it on their Amazon store yet. Haute42 Official Stores - Aliexpress Aliexpress Haute42 Official www.aliexpress.com/store/1103014184 Aliexpress Haute42-COSMOX www.aliexpress.com/store/1103683986 Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Great videos man. Really like the videos you do comparing the different Haute42s, I was able to narrow down my choices between the T16 and R16 just can't decide which one to go with. Do you have a personal recommendation between the two? Not sure how much a difference the button layout will make.
1st Thank You much appreciated!!! If I was live streaming I would explain and show the pads live so going to try and keep it short here. typing on laptop so here we go. 2nd If cost is not an issue then you should consider adding the Wind Engine switches with the T or R for about $90 total or $75 total for T or R alone. Also dont forget your adapter for PS5 or Xbox if you need it for about $40... Its simply about style and button height for T or R after that point like I showed in the video and the time lapse video today I would say comparing the T and R I prefer the T. The button height that's what I am used to at this point and prefer the lower travel to activate the button. But that's just me The layout is nice on both and basically the same button spacing apart and diameter round to me so no preference or any issues there. Box players will probably feel more familiar with the R and will have no issues and will notice its super light. The to a box player T will feel find and new a flat and more like a keyboard and I prefer that, that's just what I like as far as button height and travel. Box players have no issue with the T either and may like having a lower quicker travel to press the button. 3rd Check for coupons if your ordering off Aliexpress and there are old codes in the Haute42 discord in the general channel search for coupon or code or something like that or the announcements channel a couple dollars here or there possibly. Also the Aliexpress algorithm changes prices daily so add to cart and it might lower the price if it sits there for a couple hours to entice you to buy or a 1st time buyer it might instant sale so IDK... Also get the Ugreen USB C cable I put in the description (all my things are in the description with links also) off Amazon no matter what pad you order throw their stock cable to your phone as a charger cable... Sorry for long message typing on laptop lol Cant wait to hear what you decided to get Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 1st thanks for the detailed response appreciate it. 2nd since cost isn't that much of an issue, I will take your suggestion and also order the Wind Engine switches so I can give them a try and I don't really need an adapter since I will be playing on PC. 3rd I think I will go with the T series since you mention it will feel more like a keyboard and since I'm already a big fan of mechanical keyboards, have 5 different mechanical keyboards, it will feel more natural to me. Lastly, thank you for the tip on checking out the discord for coupon codes and having it on the cart to see if the algorithm price changes, never thought of that! Keep up the really good work on releasing those helpful videos!
@@kaitoshiragawa4437 no problem 1 more point.... lol since cost is not an issue... and since you said you like the T... Get the M Plus and the Wind Engine switches should be about $135 together when I check it today It is the upgrade to the T style More decisions for you I know but T or M Plus is what your looking at now its only about cost decisions and how much you plan to customize the art T is better for art you will see on the discord art channel They both are great I use both daily but in this style The M Plus 12 or 16 with the UGreen USB cable is nicer and better built its metal if cost is not an issue Thanks again
hi the key caps I used are below and all my gear I use I put the links in the description so you can find everything Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment Keycaps Kailh/Cherry/TTC Switch 24MM/30MM www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805783956880.html
Which Haute42 product would you recommend that can be used in a WASD format and the normal hitbox format (obviously with some profile changes)? I am mostly asking about comfort of button placement/spacing/button size in which WASD would be achievable in the most comfortable way.
@@NoobSaibotVII not sure I understand your question But if you prefer Wasd format The Haute42 B16 or the ASI LvL wasd model would be best from my experience in that format You could get both and cover your large and small sizes Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Thank you for the recommendations! I haven't heard of the ASI before, and it looks nice. But to clear up what I was asking, I just meant that since the buttons on the left side of the Haute controllers tend to follow the WASD format in regards to location (not actually being WASD keys like on the B16). I was wondering if remapping UP to the extra button above the left, down, and right buttons is viable to use in that format for games like platform fighters? Or, would the layout be too uncomfortable to play and getting an actual WASD layout would be a better choice?
@@NoobSaibotVII makes sense the top left button is a second up button out the box and will give you the style your asking for so you can play both styles on all pads from Haute42 that are 13 or more buttons Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment That way you will have 2 uo buttons andit
Hey Doc, i know you have it listed in the description (maybe for your T16) but can you recommend keycaps for the R16? Haute website says for the R-series 20.6mm and 25.8mm for the "UP"
Sure in the description click on the link for this Keycaps Kailh/Cherry/TTC Switch 24MM/30MM I used the smalls for the keycaps and 1 large for the up button on the bottom I know Haute42 is releasing their own keycaps soon just waiting for the announcement Join the discord server link in the description and that'll keep you up to date on everything Also on the discord there is a channel for keycaps and switches where you can chat and get more detailed replies and specific questions answered Folks have used all kinds of things they talk about in there hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805783956880.html
For small hands in this brand would be the S13/ S16 model or if you like the mechanical keyboard feel and taller button height the G13 / G16 The frame is small though I show it in the comparison section of this video The R buttons are technically small but wider apart that the S Hope that helps I go into on the Livestream I did with this pad also my last Leverless Talk show about 15 minutes in Might help also Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
The buttons are the same space apart So ergonomics is a tough one The T keys are by 2 quarters so they are lower and easier to press in my opinion I use both but I personally prefer the T I like the lower wider keys Hard to explain but hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
did you see the booter 5 released by haute42? maybe tested? it seems an adaptor like brook for ps5 ps4... and beacuse is short it resolved the problem to break the usb passthrough Port, and is cheaper than the brook .
Funny you mention this the package just arrived LoL I played for about 30 minutes so far and it fits great and no issues so far Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
So the r16 has the same button spacing as the t16? My small hands gets tired after a while on the t16 so I wanted something where the buttons are closer
@@yeyeye7316 makes sense So here's some suggestions brain dumo so bare with me.. The S is what you want smaller and tighter button spacing But... The frame is small it's as wide as the T is tall Check the S vs M vs T video for visuals I actually use it with a Tupperware top underneath to it fits on my lap So it's a great option and priced great but you will need something under to play on your lap There is the ASI LvL that is exactly what you want also The spacing is what you want and body is what you want You would replace the large caps with small caps all across and you'd be set But... The switches are high like the G Which you might like if you like the R So not a negative just something to think about Hope that makes sense and helps Sorry for long reply on laptop Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment ruclips.net/video/13BPBs7F-nE/видео.htmlsi=odksBXQiSrdpPEx7
@@yeyeye7316 the Duelpad is a great option too if you want a tighter T The ASI LvL feels more like you have a G and want a bigger base The Duelpad A16 and ASI LvL are what your looking for it's more knowing which style you like in button height lower or higher And the ASL is slightly tighter all around too than the Duelpad More decisions lol But those are the 2 you want if you want a larger base Or get the S and use a Tupperware lid from target which I do all the time and you'll be really happy and less cost
@@NFiniteCombos you have to buy from AliExpress links in the description at this point until it's released on n Amazon Their Discord has all their different store links as well Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Trini!! Nice glad it helped you make your decision R16 is a nice new style The S16 is so nice but so small... facts perfect for travel and etc but for lap and long play my hands are to big Here's where I'd point you Haute42 M Plus / T / R are same body size and button spacing And The Duelpad A16 / A14 is also same size the buttons are same size large but closer together for those that want a tighter feel I show it in the A16 review Tough decision adding more to your plate to choose from lol The R16 is nice you'll like the style Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@drjones694 lol you just made me think for a bit lol but I'll go with the R16 or the M16 plus....your reviews are always very informative..keep up the good work brother and I hope you make that 1000 subs this week and soon 10000 plus.....
Thank You!!! Fingers crossed !!! if your on the fence between the M Plus $120 and the R16 $75 thats a big difference in cost lol. If I was live streaming I would explain and show the pads live so going to try and keep it short here.. typing on laptop so.... 1st check for coupons if your ordering off Aliexpress codes in the Haute42 discord in the general channel search for coupon code or the announcements channel a couple dollars here or there possibly and the Aliexpress algoriythm changes prices daily so add to cart and it might lower the price if it sits there for a couple hours to entice you to buy Also get the Ugreen USB C cable I put in the description off Amazon no what pad you order throw their stock cable to your phone as a charger cable... 2nd So sounds like the cost is not an issue. In that case I prefer the M Plus. The build quality is nice it's a great buy less customization options, but very nice product and with the Wind Engine switches 20 pack really nice for about $135 total. if cost is an issue then your considering the Wind Engine switches with the T or R for about $90 total or $75 for T or R alone. Its simply about style and button height for T or R after that point like I showed in the video and the time lapse video if you were comparing the T and R I prefer the T style the button height that's what I am used to but that's just me. The lower button height. The layout is nice on both to me so no preference or any issues there. Box players will probably like the R because it will feel more familiar Then again for the price of 1 M Plus $120... you could basically get both the R and T $150 for a little more the cost of 1 M Plus about so lol ... To many decisions... Sorry for long message typing on laptop lol Cant wait to hear what you decided to get
@drjones694 ohhh well this got me thinking now..I was going with the R16 because of the button size..I also own the original hitbox and the buttons size is perfect but I'll surely think about the T also..thanks much yo...
The T and R in my opinion don't fly off at all MPlus neither The G do fly off after they break in sometimes If yours are flying off You can tear a tiny piece of paper and apply it to the T sign on the bottom of the keycaps and then plug in the switch It will wedge the paper and connect tighter and you can slip it back off at anytime if you change key caps colors later Hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
So in spacing The T and R are basically the same distance apart But the button surface is smaller in diameter on the R and slightly higher in height I like them both but I prefer the T but use the E all the time too So it's more do you want rings on your button edges just or just a full sized button hope that makes sense lol Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 that does make sense. What difference does the rims make in terms of feel or execution if any? do you notice any miss inputs or anything with the R or quality issues?
@@I3asyl no missed inputs on either for me I just prefer the T button height and full round buttons I also wear a XXXL riding glove so long fingers I'm honestly in a weird space with big hands My brother and nephew came over 1 preferred the R16 and other Duelpad A16 So it's your style For me I don't use the rings to slide or anything and prefer the T full button less ring style over the ring with the smaller buttons So when you own them you will adjust to what you own with no issues A lot to write lol But if you catch me on a Tuesday Thursday live stream I can show on camera
Yes the same as pretty much all the box styles They are all generally the same this box the directionals are slightly slid to the left but you wouldn't notice Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
I'm waiting for arrival excited to see how it fits I just got the Mayflash boot for Xbox series x in too. Tested and that is working great So when the Booter arrives I'll probably redo my adapters video adding the new and maybe a 1 or 2 minute separate review on each booter adapter Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Can you do slide on t16? I bought r16 as my first leverless to learn fighting game since it look like a hitbox, been trying to do the slide but my finger keep getting caught between the gap probably due to the button height sticking out more than a normal sanwa button?
You can slide on the T / S / M / M Plus Best reference is, if you look at the rims on the R you have Thats how high the other pads caps are The G and R seem to be in the same higher button style family I have a G on order just havent arrived yet So you can slide from ring to ring if there were no buttons there and the top was flat Hope that makes sense Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
No the T caps will not fit They are larger caps the R uses smaller caps I put a link to all my gear in the description the keycaps as well you want the smaller size The R16 uses the smaller keycaps all across Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
yesterday the controls of my haute 42 arcade stopped working, while all other buttons work fine, and on the mini screen you can see that all the buttons work very well without any problem, I have also tried it on the test the controls page and it appears that everything is fine, it's like the ps5 stopped accepting the controls of this arcade, can anyone pass this on or can help me, thanks
Hi so my 1st advice would be join the discord link in the description There is a channel called support not the general channel post this same comment on the support channel it is a very active channel so someone will reply throughout the day depending on time of day you will get instant live help also haven't seen that before hope that helps Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Great it's a larger pad so lots of space. I need to start adding that point to my reviews also to help. Good point Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Dude u should double down on the size comparison thing and start using strawberries or something random each video just for the laughs trigger people who don't realize you have the devices sitting on measure mat/grid haha
@@casinoz8013 LoL that would be pretty funny I try my best to find any means to show how big or small the pads are to help people make their decision on the devices whatever helps RUclips life is tough out here lol Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
this is the worst and most useless review i have ever seen. all you did was compare the size of the controller to other controllers, that's not even a review
I said I liked it Reviewed and said what I thought about it Compared it to other things Gave you a full size analysis with the paper test Style analysis compared to what you've seen in the past So curious what is missing Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Thanks!! Nice!! when you remove the cover the rings come off with it. The step by step time lapse will be out in the AM tomorrow at 9am central Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
![Is this what you're looking for? [Haute42 M16]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ayocVNTDiBc/mqdefault.jpg)
Please Subscribe and Like
So close to the 1000 subs goal to make more content
Thank You much appreciated
I'm kinda mindblown by how effective I find your explanation of the size using everyday items works.
The quarters are only so-so for me since I don't live in the USA, but using an A4 paper is straight genius.
A request for next time it's relevant: Please try to hold the pads next to each other from different angles more time in front of the camera. It would have helped seeing the difference in key height, for instance.
@@nullfield1126 Thanks 🙏🏾 much appreciated
That's a great point
I'll add that to my checklist to better help you all get a view of these products
Like you said I try to use house hold items because everything looks huge in a picture...
So things like the paper test let you virtually feel the devices before hand and get a better idea
Glad it helped
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
When you compared it to the mayflash, it really made me think that the R16 is Haute42's line of controllers that is made for people who own a levered controller and want to try leverless. What reinforced that, is the buttons are part of why I'll be buying one with my next paycheck. The buttons are incredibly reminiscent of your levered arcade controller. It's also really nice that it's wide so it passes the lap test like a levered controller would.
@@ferndiesel great points the R is a great entry point to the leverless life
I think you're really gonna like it
Can't wait to hear your thoughts
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Update: I love it! I really enjoy that I have options between thumb for up or to go WASD style [which I went with] and dear goodness, it's so nice. The guaranteed precision, using SOCD for easy KBD, the low time for inputs due to key switches. I feel like my ability to play Tekken levelled up off this switch alone! It feels like reading for the first time after finally getting glasses lmao. The buttons really help me feel at home, too. It really does feel like it's the logical next step if you wanted to use leverless after using a lever.
And np! Thank you for the great content!
@ferndiesel Nice glad you like it
that's a great pad
And that style is so popular right now you picked a good one
Glad I could help
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
just sold my snackbox micro to a (smaller) friend and was researching some of the larger pads(I'm 6'4) - and after of long time of convincing myself I was going to get a micro XL, I stumbled upon the Haute42 series and figured it couldn't be beat for the price.
This review is no less than amazing. Not only the number of comparisons to similar devices on the same screen, but the usage of coins and flash drives, items people can easily picture/imagine, for size/thickness relativity is perfect.
My only complaint was that you didn't highlight the lighting capabilities at all which can be a selling point for some people and I believe that this version does use the "crystal" switches that are specifically for the aforementioned lighting effects compared to their previous iterations.
Thank you sir.
Thanks much appreciated
I try to be as practical as I can paper test and all lol
Great point I need to bring up the lights and custom color patterns you can set and custom button mappings you can do
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Another amazing review, please keep posting these reviews because they're so helpful!
Thank you!!! 🙏🏾 Much appreciated
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Best review for these. I was between the R and S16s and this greatly helped
@@TechnoTurtle9974 Thanks much appreciated 🙏🏿
Glad it helped
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Thanks for the review. I just purchased this leverless. Excited to try it out.
Nice!! No problem, glad it helped.
Hope you like it
It's a new style
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Good to know.
I really prefer the smaller layout of the S13 or Mayflash even.
The T13/16 are too spread out for my fingers. And it sounds like the R16 would still be too spread out for my fingers, despite the smaller button sizes.
Hopefully Haute42 released a S-series wide lineup as you mentioned for folks with smaller hands like myself.
@@mintiefresh yeah it's definitely a great pad I show 2 friends and they love this pad and ordered 1 each
But if you need tighter spacing this isn't it
The ASI LvL would be a better fit
It's a really nice pad and replaceable parts
But ...
Be aware the switches are taller like the G series
not low profile like the S or T
Review on the channel that shows the comparison
Hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Just got the R because i wanted to upgrade from the S and its so good, the rims really are a big difference for me when i do supers in strive I can just slide mi fingers through the left right down buttons. Also I am missing a tiny part of my left index finger so some imputs where difficult, but with the rims its much easier.... Great vids man thanks for the review
Thanks much appreciated
I try to help as much as I can to inform everyone on what these pads and other things feel like in person to help you all make a good decision on what's right for you
Glad it helped
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Thank you so much for this review. I was literally on the order page ready to buy it and I'm glad you talked about the button spacing. I have an S16 with the closer spacings and I thought the R16 was going to be a bigger S16, so very disappointed to hear that the spacing is the same as the T series.
No problem glad it helped
much appreciated 🙏🏾
I had to delete my 1st review of this product and redo it
because I thought not being a S wide was a negative at 1st not being an S wide
Then I played with it some more and realized no this is a new product line and style on their line up and found out later that an eSports player in China won a tournament on this style and that's what made this style popular as well
So coming from a different angle it's really nice for those looking for this style or a flatter lighter box style pad device
For those looking for S wide which I get asked about a lot
hopefully it comes soon definitely a market there
fingers crossed for you
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
So disappointing to see that the spacing is pretty much the same as the T models, despite having smaller buttons... What were they thinking?
There are many people with smaller hands that just wanted a bigger surface model with the smaller/closer spacing. I guess we'll have to keep using the S/G models.
That was my 1st thought also and ended up doing this review twice going from a negative because it wasn't a wide S
To a positive that this is a new product that the box players are going to love and folks that never tried a box will love as well. When I looked at it that way I had a lot of fun with it
And leaving hope for the S wide an S with no major changes just a wider base or the T base with an S pad inside
The only issue is they're probably thinking folks will get confused by the T and S wide and maybe hurt T sales but I don't think so
T and M Plus are my favorites so we'll see
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Yeah, I'm thinking the same. Ordered my R16, it's on the way and I'm kinda disappointed with the spacing. P12 has perfect button spacing but the size is not for me.
Nice like a flat box style that's cool and way easier to carry than my box
It's definitely a nice new design in the line
My brother loves the button style so he liked the fact this is flatter or Flat Box style you could call it and easier to customize
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Just found your vid. Amazing review. Very thorough and helpfull with everyday items comparison. 👍🏻
@@hermontarmand2404 Thank you much appreciated 🙏🏾
I try to use what a normal person would have in the house to hopefully get the details to help folks struggling with their style purchase decision
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
That F500 Flat is huge! not sure why someone would want something that bulky, but more power to you.
Yeah it's a tough one. The R16 is very compact and portable and so easy to customize both are nice to play on but I see where your coming from
A lot of folks like the heavier base at events or in person and the audio passthrough is a really nice feature
But the R16 with the wind engine or ghost switches and the o rings is almost silent when you play and really nice
It's a tough decision
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Just here to say that even with the those button rings it's still hard to do those slide techniques you see on RUclips. The stem of buttons are high. It's possible but not as smooth as a leverless using standard buttons.
Compared to stock buttons I agree they do sit higher
I tried to use the coins as some form of reference to a button
A coin doesn't seem that talk but in situations like this they do sit higher than a standard button
People will get used to it
But I agree they do sit higher
Same compared to the T or S they sit 2 coins higher which doesn't sound like much higher but it's a difference compared to the other models
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
have you seen the COSMOX Booter 5? is a new adapter from the same company.
I have I'm pretty excited
I ordered I'm just waiting for it to come in lol
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
What about comfort comparing the T16 and the R16? I'm planning to buy one but I don't know which one has the most comfortable layout, taking in mind the increased height of buttons on the R16.
Also noise, does the R16 case produce less sound than the T16 when using it?
@@gabrielst527 R16 is quieter than the T16
Comfort is hard to explain neither is better
I prefer the T large caps
A lot prefer the R spaced out and rings
Everyone's hands are so different and play style different
I try to give the paper test and the quarters to help show if you put a piece of paper on a table with coins and tap your fingers you'll get a clue if you'll like it or not
But honestly there is no better pad just more options for everyone to find what they like
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
What do you think of the thinner profile? Does it make it feel cheaper/less substantial than the other Haute models?
It feels thinner and lighter for sure
you will notice but not cheap in my opinion
It's not half the size of T so feels similar just a little thinner
Just the top last layer layer of acrylic is cut in half the rest of the body feels the same from what I can tell so far on the top you'll notice when you change the art
If you just use it out the box it feels fine and sized and button spaced very similar to the T
This is a nice alternative to a box style device
Hope that helps
Hard to explain without writing a paragraph paper in the comments lol
I did a live stream with it last Sunday talking to the audience and talk more about it and playing with it
that you can skip through about 13 minutes in and hear and see it more where I explain the pad throughout and compare live to other devices on camera
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
ruclips.net/user/liveQ6z1Ak5DNTE?si=fz3qxJbsa2jfraCr
There is only one problem and that is I don't see a link to order this Haute42 R16 controller. I have looked at each of the links you provided except for the Japanese. Please post the exact link that I need in order to order this controller 😅
Hi I put the links in the description.
You have to use either of the 2 Aliexpress links.
They haven't released it on their Amazon store yet.
Haute42 Official Stores - Aliexpress
Aliexpress Haute42 Official
www.aliexpress.com/store/1103014184
Aliexpress Haute42-COSMOX
www.aliexpress.com/store/1103683986
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Great videos man. Really like the videos you do comparing the different Haute42s, I was able to narrow down my choices between the T16 and R16 just can't decide which one to go with. Do you have a personal recommendation between the two? Not sure how much a difference the button layout will make.
1st Thank You much appreciated!!! If I was live streaming I would explain and show the pads live so going to try and keep it short here. typing on laptop so here we go.
2nd If cost is not an issue then you should consider adding the Wind Engine switches with the T or R for about $90 total or $75 total for T or R alone. Also dont forget your adapter for PS5 or Xbox if you need it for about $40...
Its simply about style and button height for T or R after that point like I showed in the video and the time lapse video today I would say comparing the T and R
I prefer the T. The button height that's what I am used to at this point and prefer the lower travel to activate the button. But that's just me
The layout is nice on both and basically the same button spacing apart and diameter round to me so no preference or any issues there.
Box players will probably feel more familiar with the R and will have no issues and will notice its super light. The to a box player T will feel find and new a flat and more like a keyboard and I prefer that, that's just what I like as far as button height and travel. Box players have no issue with the T either and may like having a lower quicker travel to press the button.
3rd Check for coupons if your ordering off Aliexpress and there are old codes in the Haute42 discord in the general channel search for coupon or code or something like that or the announcements channel a couple dollars here or there possibly.
Also the Aliexpress algorithm changes prices daily so add to cart and it might lower the price if it sits there for a couple hours to entice you to buy or a 1st time buyer it might instant sale so IDK...
Also get the Ugreen USB C cable I put in the description (all my things are in the description with links also) off Amazon no matter what pad you order throw their stock cable to your phone as a charger cable...
Sorry for long message typing on laptop lol
Cant wait to hear what you decided to get
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 1st thanks for the detailed response appreciate it.
2nd since cost isn't that much of an issue, I will take your suggestion and also order the Wind Engine switches so I can give them a try and I don't really need an adapter since I will be playing on PC.
3rd I think I will go with the T series since you mention it will feel more like a keyboard and since I'm already a big fan of mechanical keyboards, have 5 different mechanical keyboards, it will feel more natural to me.
Lastly, thank you for the tip on checking out the discord for coupon codes and having it on the cart to see if the algorithm price changes, never thought of that!
Keep up the really good work on releasing those helpful videos!
@@kaitoshiragawa4437 no problem
1 more point.... lol
since cost is not an issue...
and since you said you like the T...
Get the M Plus and the Wind Engine switches should be about $135 together when I check it today
It is the upgrade to the T style
More decisions for you I know
but T or M Plus is what your looking at
now its only about cost decisions and how much you plan to customize the art T is better for art you will see on the discord art channel
They both are great I use both daily but in this style
The M Plus 12 or 16 with the UGreen USB cable is nicer and better built its metal
if cost is not an issue
Thanks again
The paper test is tight. Great video
Thank you!! Glad it helped. I try to be practical as I can.
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
great review. I wanted to ask, the leverless in this section 2:22 the one with the art what are those buttons?
hi the key caps I used are below and all my gear I use I put the links in the description so you can find everything
Hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Keycaps Kailh/Cherry/TTC Switch 24MM/30MM
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805783956880.html
@@drjones694 Thanks a lot bro
Which Haute42 product would you recommend that can be used in a WASD format and the normal hitbox format (obviously with some profile changes)? I am mostly asking about comfort of button placement/spacing/button size in which WASD would be achievable in the most comfortable way.
@@NoobSaibotVII not sure I understand your question
But if you prefer
Wasd format
The Haute42 B16 or the ASI LvL wasd model would be best from my experience in that format
You could get both and cover your large and small sizes
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Thank you for the recommendations! I haven't heard of the ASI before, and it looks nice.
But to clear up what I was asking, I just meant that since the buttons on the left side of the Haute controllers tend to follow the WASD format in regards to location (not actually being WASD keys like on the B16). I was wondering if remapping UP to the extra button above the left, down, and right buttons is viable to use in that format for games like platform fighters? Or, would the layout be too uncomfortable to play and getting an actual WASD layout would be a better choice?
@@NoobSaibotVII makes sense the top left button is a second up button out the box and will give you the style your asking for so you can play both styles on all pads from Haute42 that are 13 or more buttons
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
That way you will have 2 uo buttons andit
I will play Tekken 8 on the computer, will I have problems if I buy Mayflas F500 flat without sleeves?
Hey Doc, i know you have it listed in the description (maybe for your T16) but can you recommend keycaps for the R16? Haute website says for the R-series 20.6mm and 25.8mm for the "UP"
Sure in the description click on the link for this
Keycaps Kailh/Cherry/TTC Switch 24MM/30MM
I used the smalls for the keycaps and 1 large for the up button on the bottom
I know Haute42 is releasing their own keycaps soon just waiting for the announcement
Join the discord server link in the description and that'll keep you up to date on everything
Also on the discord there is a channel for keycaps and switches where you can chat and get more detailed replies and specific questions answered
Folks have used all kinds of things they talk about in there
hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805783956880.html
Would you say this is good for small hands? But the spacing is as wide as bigger button size models? What would you choose
For small hands in this brand would be
the S13/ S16 model or if you like the mechanical keyboard feel and taller button height the G13 / G16
The frame is small though I show it in the comparison section of this video
The R buttons are technically small but wider apart that the S
Hope that helps
I go into on the Livestream I did with this pad also my last Leverless Talk show about 15 minutes in
Might help also
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
In terms of ergonmics which would you choose between the T and the R ? Also which are you less likely to miss inputs with ?
The buttons are the same space apart
So ergonomics is a tough one
The T keys are by 2 quarters so they are lower and easier to press in my opinion
I use both but
I personally prefer the T I like the lower wider keys
Hard to explain but hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
did you see the booter 5 released by haute42? maybe tested? it seems an adaptor like brook for ps5 ps4... and beacuse is short it resolved the problem to break the usb passthrough Port, and is cheaper than the brook .
Funny you mention this the package just arrived LoL
I played for about 30 minutes so far and it fits great and no issues so far
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
a brook universal board can be used in this arcade controller?
Universal board no
This is an all in one flat pad
Brooks Adapter yes to connect to the PS5 conosle
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
So the r16 has the same button spacing as the t16? My small hands gets tired after a while on the t16 so I wanted something where the buttons are closer
@@yeyeye7316 makes sense
So here's some suggestions brain dumo so bare with me..
The S is what you want smaller and tighter button spacing
But...
The frame is small it's as wide as the T is tall
Check the S vs M vs T video for visuals
I actually use it with a Tupperware top underneath to it fits on my lap
So it's a great option and priced great but you will need something under to play on your lap
There is the ASI LvL that is exactly what you want also
The spacing is what you want and body is what you want
You would replace the large caps with small caps all across and you'd be set
But...
The switches are high like the G
Which you might like if you like the R
So not a negative just something to think about
Hope that makes sense and helps
Sorry for long reply on laptop
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
ruclips.net/video/13BPBs7F-nE/видео.htmlsi=odksBXQiSrdpPEx7
@@drjones694 appreciate the reply. how about the duel pad? is the button spacing similar to the s16?
@@yeyeye7316 the Duelpad is a great option too if you want a tighter T
The ASI LvL feels more like you have a G and want a bigger base
The Duelpad A16 and ASI LvL are what your looking for it's more knowing which style you like in button height lower or higher
And the ASL is slightly tighter all around too than the Duelpad
More decisions lol
But those are the 2 you want if you want a larger base
Or get the S and use a Tupperware lid from target which I do all the time and you'll be really happy and less cost
How can I specifically get the r16. I don't see it advertised anywhere and I need the smaller buttons
@@NFiniteCombos you have to buy from AliExpress links in the description at this point until it's released on n Amazon
Their Discord has all their different store links as well
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Great review.....i shall be getting the R16...the S16 is good but too small..I'll keep it as a souvenir lol thanks man
Trini!! Nice glad it helped you make your decision R16 is a nice new style
The S16 is so nice but so small... facts
perfect for travel and etc but for lap and long play my hands are to big
Here's where I'd point you
Haute42 M Plus / T / R are same body size and button spacing
And The Duelpad A16 / A14 is also same size the buttons are same size large but closer together for those that want a tighter feel
I show it in the A16 review
Tough decision adding more to your plate to choose from lol
The R16 is nice you'll like the style
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@drjones694 lol you just made me think for a bit lol but I'll go with the R16 or the M16 plus....your reviews are always very informative..keep up the good work brother and I hope you make that 1000 subs this week and soon 10000 plus.....
Thank You!!! Fingers crossed !!!
if your on the fence between the M Plus $120 and the R16 $75 thats a big difference in cost lol. If I was live streaming I would explain and show the pads live so going to try and keep it short here.. typing on laptop so....
1st check for coupons if your ordering off Aliexpress codes in the Haute42 discord in the general channel search for coupon code or the announcements channel a couple dollars here or there possibly and the Aliexpress algoriythm changes prices daily so add to cart and it might lower the price if it sits there for a couple hours to entice you to buy
Also get the Ugreen USB C cable I put in the description off Amazon no what pad you order throw their stock cable to your phone as a charger cable...
2nd So sounds like the cost is not an issue. In that case I prefer the M Plus. The build quality is nice it's a great buy less customization options, but very nice product and with the Wind Engine switches 20 pack really nice for about $135 total.
if cost is an issue then your considering the Wind Engine switches with the T or R for about $90 total or $75 for T or R alone.
Its simply about style and button height for T or R after that point like I showed in the video and the time lapse video
if you were comparing the T and R I prefer the T style the button height that's what I am used to but that's just me. The lower button height.
The layout is nice on both to me so no preference or any issues there.
Box players will probably like the R because it will feel more familiar
Then again for the price of 1 M Plus $120... you could basically get both the R and T $150 for a little more the cost of 1 M Plus about so lol ...
To many decisions...
Sorry for long message typing on laptop lol
Cant wait to hear what you decided to get
@drjones694 ohhh well this got me thinking now..I was going with the R16 because of the button size..I also own the original hitbox and the buttons size is perfect but I'll surely think about the T also..thanks much yo...
I order it waiting for arrival but is taking fore ever!!!
Facts mine took almost 2 weeks LoL
Hopefully soon for you
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Do the button caps pop off easily while playing? I'm considering T16 or R16.
The T and R in my opinion don't fly off at all MPlus neither
The G do fly off after they break in sometimes
If yours are flying off
You can tear a tiny piece of paper and apply it to the T sign on the bottom of the keycaps and then plug in the switch
It will wedge the paper and connect tighter and you can slip it back off at anytime if you change key caps colors later
Hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Thank you bro.
Great comparison. Thanks!
Thank you 🙏🏾!!! Much appreciated
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Button size wise do you prefer the R or the T? i feel like the R might be nice since buttons are closer together but idk if theyll feel too small
So in spacing
The T and R are basically the same distance apart
But the button surface is smaller in diameter on the R and slightly higher in height
I like them both but I prefer the T but use the E all the time too
So it's more do you want rings on your button edges just or just a full sized button hope that makes sense lol
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 that does make sense. What difference does the rims make in terms of feel or execution if any? do you notice any miss inputs or anything with the R or quality issues?
@@I3asyl no missed inputs on either for me
I just prefer the T button height and full round buttons
I also wear a XXXL riding glove so long fingers
I'm honestly in a weird space with big hands
My brother and nephew came over
1 preferred the R16 and other Duelpad A16
So it's your style
For me I don't use the rings to slide or anything and prefer the T full button less ring style over the ring with the smaller buttons
So when you own them you will adjust to what you own with no issues
A lot to write lol
But if you catch me on a Tuesday Thursday live stream I can show on camera
Is the spacing of buttons and rims compared to the mayflash hitbox the same? I kinda missed your usb dongle test on the box😅
Yes the same as pretty much all the box styles
They are all generally the same this box the directionals are slightly slid to the left but you wouldn't notice
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Yo dr, i assume the booter5 works but is it possible that you try and showcase it?
I'm waiting for arrival excited to see how it fits
I just got the Mayflash boot for Xbox series x in too. Tested and that is working great
So when the Booter arrives I'll probably redo my adapters video adding the new and maybe a 1 or 2 minute separate review on each booter adapter
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Review about the new Booter 5 Haute42 pls
Ordered waiting for arrival
Curious how it will stack up
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Can you do slide on t16? I bought r16 as my first leverless to learn fighting game since it look like a hitbox, been trying to do the slide but my finger keep getting caught between the gap probably due to the button height sticking out more than a normal sanwa button?
You can slide on the T / S / M / M Plus
Best reference is, if you look at the rims on the R you have
Thats how high the other pads caps are
The G and R seem to be in the same higher button style family I have a G on order just havent arrived yet
So you can slide from ring to ring if there were no buttons there and the top was flat
Hope that makes sense
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Great review video
Thank you 🙏🏾!!! Much appreciated
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
If I wanted button caps for the r16 what do I get? Will the t16 ones fit on it?
No the T caps will not fit
They are larger caps the R uses smaller caps
I put a link to all my gear in the description the keycaps as well you want the smaller size
The R16 uses the smaller keycaps all across
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
@@drjones694 Perfect! Thanks!
Live stream play with the new Haute42 R16
ruclips.net/user/liveQ6z1Ak5DNTE?si=jE1Tte3lI6Jov1tz
yesterday the controls of my haute 42 arcade stopped working, while all other buttons work fine, and on the mini screen you can see that all the buttons work very well without any problem, I have also tried it on the test the controls page and it appears that everything is fine, it's like the ps5 stopped accepting the controls of this arcade, can anyone pass this on or can help me, thanks
Hi so my 1st advice would be join the discord link in the description
There is a channel called support
not the general channel
post this same comment on the support channel
it is a very active channel so someone will reply throughout the day
depending on time of day you will get instant live help also
haven't seen that before
hope that helps
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
How's the wrist space?
Great it's a larger pad so lots of space.
I need to start adding that point to my reviews also to help.
Good point
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
i swear americans will measure with everything but the metric system
Dude u should double down on the size comparison thing and start using strawberries or something random each video just for the laughs
trigger people who don't realize you have the devices sitting on measure mat/grid haha
@@casinoz8013 LoL that would be pretty funny
I try my best to find any means to show how big or small the pads are to help people make their decision on the devices whatever helps
RUclips life is tough out here lol
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
this is the worst and most useless review i have ever seen. all you did was compare the size of the controller to other controllers, that's not even a review
I said I liked it
Reviewed and said what I thought about it
Compared it to other things
Gave you a full size analysis with the paper test
Style analysis compared to what you've seen in the past
So curious what is missing
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment
Hi great video.I am about to review one on my channel. How did you get the print inside the unit?
Thanks!! Nice!! when you remove the cover the rings come off with it. The step by step time lapse will be out in the AM tomorrow at 9am central
Thanks for watching subscribing and your comment