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Corpos call out Attractive Women in Games, backfires TERRIBLY
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Many male gamers are overweight. In fact it's a stereotype that gamers are fat and is made fun of in media but you don't see us asking for fat male leads in games.
still mad they took away fat drake mode in uncharted. shit was funny, but firmly an Easter egg.
I mean fat characters are great but not for the body positivity but for the funny
Usually a fat character is either an NPC or supporting character. Typically obese male characters are the butt of jokes or their weight alludes to their skills in other areas. Such as intelligence or the like. You don't ask for fat male characters to be the soldiers on the front lines. (Unless you're mocking the very idea in itself.)
@@Polomance862 unless it’s like a nurgle demon or warframe Grendel that do the “fat feirce” thing but ones a demon and the other an advance war rig
Well, Mario is overweight. But that was done to give him a square-like hitbox.
We should never apologize for finding attractive women attractive.
Mfs when we find a sexy girl attractive: *surprised Pikachu face*
Church!
Rizz 100%
We find different kind of sexy. But pushing fat as sexy is not very healthy
Of course not! It's in our nature to love beauty.
If game devs actually made games that cater to narcissists like these, the games industry would absolutely collapse
well I mean there's Saints Row 2022 and BF2042 off the top of my head
it's already happening
kinda
Imagine being jealous about fictional characters, these women need theraphy
Well, in today's era, Waifu girls ( literal png ) get more attention than actual women, so they get jealous 🤣
@@lexnight8345 life is hardship theres no easy way lmao
@@oneplay5570 life is hard if you lack some type of bonus... beauty charisma strength intelligence if you have one of those you're doing fine. I mean have you seen beautiful women doing bad in life ? Or charismatic men ? Or anyone with above average IQ ?
@@lexnight8345 There is still some gender inequality between men and women in this society. Men work hard to get to where they want to be. Women take the easy way which is laziness.
Being fat is not something to take pride in. Because being fat means you got high levels of cholesterol which severely affects your body's organs.
"I'm not fat, I'm big boned"
-Eric Cartman
It's not always cholesterol.
Not to mention it is oftentimes a side effect of having plenty of time to sit around and eat instead of using time that could have been spent exercising.
or it could be your eating too much for your metabolism to handle so the body stores that extra food as fat or you could be eating a lot of bad fatty foods (Saturated fats, and trans fat basically the fats that are hard for your body to get rid of)
@@VirtualAustin with me its hard just to get the mental energy to even get out of bed, and lately ive had the mental energy of a 2 year old, not able to do much but to comment and watch videos.
This strikes as obese women hating women for not being obese. My sister is rather slim, and she gets mean comments from overweight women for being thin, as did my mom when she lost weight due to cancer. These people have issues.
There is a reason envy is one of the seven deadly sins. You don’t even have to be religious to acknowledge this either.
I hope your mom is doing well! God Bless Her!
@@Hyperslayer_X I try to stay as far away from envy as possible. I may succumb to Lust, Pride, Sloth and sometimes Wrath but I always make sure to stay away from envy since when I'm angry, I'm supposed to have a good reason and being jealous isn't one of them
Lashing out at others because they are insecure.
I used to get bullied on school for being too thin, even they called me as a 'stickwoman'.
I just don't get why people nowadays could bully someone for not being fat or losing weight for the sake of their health. I guess they're another form of SJWs.
Society as a whole needs to stop bowing to the complaints of insecure and narcissistic women.
Do you mean West Europe and the US? Where I live if a woman doesn't know her place she will belong to the streets.
It always amazes me that US citizens think what they do is the norm.
Here is how real women acted in the old times: My grandmother bought the first two cars of my father from selling meat and fruits for years on the market. After the wedding, she bought all of the furniture for their new home. When there was a food shortage (because of the Russian occupation) she started to collect flour from the neighbors and made bread for all of them for years.
@@WriteAnEmailIFYouHaveAProblem it's not the majority of Americans that think that it's the insane screeching vocal minority that the corporate/media/academic/medical industry/government has manufactured and promote is what is portrayed as normal because it increases their profits.
It seems like the more women get into creative positions within movie, TV & gaming studios the worse content is becoming.
dont care if that sounds sexist, its an observable fact over the last 2 decades.
In this case I think corporatism is to blame.
@@HereticDuo less "woman" and more people fresh out of liberal college, without passion to exell in their craft. Mostly because that would require hard work and time.
I see people online whining about how we need "body positivity" yet those same people will mock my taste in men because they find their faces ugly 💔 real hypocritical
If Dove wants to market themselves as a company that cares about body positivity, then why are they in the business of selling beauty products that alter your looks?
Tbf nowadays makeup styles don't just cover up your existing looks with pretty templates, some enhance existing beauty(or beauty potential)
Because they don't care about body positivity. They care about making money from people that think they care about body positivity.
@@revimfadli4666lets be honest most of that shit is about chaning ones appaeance even if its for.ones self its not commonaly a hobby for people
Fatter people means more skin to use soap on, which means more soap sold.
@@MegamanXfan21xx 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hate how body positivity is used almost exclusively for fat people nowadays, instead of people who actually need it, lost limbs, scars, burns, etc.
*fat women
If Fat men they're ridiculed by the media
@@francisquebachmann7375 Especially in a David Cage game
@@francisquebachmann7375 For women only... as always the female privilege rears its head around.
That's what it was supposed to be, but was co-opped.
It's pretty f'd that guys that aren't as fit are ridiculed by media, especially those that genuinely can't help it because of a disease or biology screw up in their body.
I'm really glad they are going all out. First the ad punishing hot women in bikinis and now THIS. ACCELERATE. SHOW YOURSELF.
I'm not a hardcore gamer girl by any sorts (I mostly play rhythm games, puzzles, etc.) and I've only played a bit of RPG and single player campaigns (since I suck at them), but when I do, I always choose to make my female characters attractive and sexy -- very different from how I actually look in real life, which is a potato, and I use those avatars as inspiration to live a healthy lifestyle and workout -- cuz let's be honest, who wouldn't want to be attractive in real life? Games are supposed to give people a different perspective, a different adventure and experiences larger than life. Games are literally virtual simulations to allow you to live and explore a life different from yours, not to serve as a medium of representation for "unrepresented" individuals or group. As Chris Gore said, if you can only empathize with characters who look like you or similar to you in some other way, then that's a sign of a very low level of empathy. No wonder this generation and age is acknowledged to be as the most narcissistic humans to ever live in history so far.
Funny how all these social movements were about “you should not shame or be shamed for being you or liking someone,” and yet we’ve come full circle to telling people you can’t like something again. Life is truly a joke
'Reality is often disappointing.'
Clown world, baby.
It hasn't come full circle, they have always been hypocrites in their beliefs, just now it has become more publicly known!
*America is a joke.
They never opposed shaming anybody. They only hated the idea of them not being the ones doing it.
As a female gamer I can confer that nobody asked for this. I go to video games to *escape* damn it!
Didn’t you know...corpos are stuck to understanding the world using clipboards and focus groups. Which means not listening to the demographic they pander to.
Getting harder and harder to escape these days...
My girlfriend is also a female gamer! She loves Hollow Knight, Eldarya, Persona 5, and Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne.
I'm also teaching her Dark Souls.
@@backupschmliff1156 She must be looking forward to Silksong too.👍🏻
Bravely Default is pretty fun too. I loved the outfits for different abilities. It was even better in Bravely Second aesthetic wise because there was subtle differences in styles for the same outfit for the different characters. The red mage dress was my favourite.
ESG investors asked for this
We live in an era where mediocrity is celebrated...
I, as a neck beard, also am not represented enough in games. Every time there's a nerd character that COULD represent me, they're black, or Latino, or Asian.... And not even red heads! Ridiculous. What about my representation?
"Women are under represented in video games. Fictional women need to be fat and out of shape, because that's what most women look like in real life."
- Dove
As a female gamer I’ve never felt the need to ask myself if I’ve felt represented in video games or not.
right? its stupid the only thing thats ever really annoyed me is for awhile they seemed to only do matchmaking games. i want to be a hermit lol. most of my favorite games have male main characters why cant we just have fun and not worry about it?
Same. I actually tend to like the games set in worlds so fantastic, you can hardly find human beings at all, thus providing me NO representation!
Female gamers playing as hot male characters in video games: "what?"
Same. It literally never crossed my mind. In fact when there is an option I usually pick character that looks nothing like me. In World of Warcraft I played a troll male for crying out loud. In DnD I play as Dragonborn. The weirder the better.
I dare say you speak for both male and female gamers.
Obesity and narcissism is one deadly combo
I’m glad people are calling out how the double standards when it comes to actual fit women or women big breasts- they’re always shown as negative for even existing even when they’re not even aggressive towards others. The ad could’ve at least shown that the fit body type can fight alongside the cubby body type if they truly wanted to show body positivity for any body…
But of course body positivity has now just become an excuse to be aggressively unhealthy and obese so I’m not surprised…
"Women feel unrepresenteded in video games"
Then learn to code.
Why? Women don't care about games.
It's like saying men feel unrepresented in sewing. Would you say learn to sew?
These women that say women feel unrepresented are out of touch with reality.
@@aphrodite7194 a lot of gacha game devs are women though, a lot their character designers are also women, most IT devs for corporate are male though
@@erushi5503 It's kind of ironic tbh. All these modern feminists types rail against the female gacha characters the most and call them oversexualized when the majority of them are made and designed by woman. Shouldn't even be that surprising. It's just like guys designing over the top macho characters.
@@TNTspazI feel like it comes from a place of jealousy. They'll never attain the kind of body types that women in video games have yet don't put in the effort to get that body themselves. And it's okay that some are content with being overweight but the ones who whine about fit people when they aren't is kinda hypocritical
Or learn to diet and exercise.
I'm a fat female gamer and I've never asked for any representation anywhere, lol.
There is a reason why some games have character customization. We don’t want to see ourselves into a game. We want to escape reality and immerse ourselves.
We want to see ourselves after 5 years of roids workout + some scars and some mean tattoos amirite
As a fat female that occasionally games
It’s kinda cringe as are “MaKe ThIs ChArAcTeR fAt” bs cause most of us don’t really care
It's true, as long as it has a customization feature we pretty much can style the character however we want and feel like we are apart of the characters and their lives, take sims as an example.
Dove should stick to making soap
Reason why I stick to Dial
They should shov the soap up theirsAYYYEEEnuz
Reason why I stick to Axe
Bruh their soap sucks! I use Dr Squatch great value, good scents and cleans great!
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 you do know Axe is under Unilever which Dove also is. Use Old Spice instead
Why is it that men apparently never have an issue with their characters being attractive? Do these people think that women want to play like... ugly or bland-looking characters? I don't want to play a dude that looks like me, I want to play a dude that's hot af lmao
The reason they shame eating healthy is because dove and many skin care companies are owned by proctor and gamble, who also own many food brands.
This weird commercial: *exists*
Mr. Perfect Cell: "Okay but why though?"
Vegeta: You ruined it. You ruined it and I'm leaving.
Semi perfect cell: "I have so many questions!!!"
This is the comment chain. xD
Goku: Do you see this shit Vegeta?
I’m a lady, I’m 40 years old, I like to play games. I don’t want to be too hard on the ad, but part of me just wants them to leave us alone, lol. I’m happy to see all kinds of avatars and play as them, too. But goddess warrior avatars are awesome. I don’t like the implication that we are “being objectified” by them. Leave the hot lady characters be.
There's also this weird idea where if we had the magic to change ourselves *we absolutely wouldn't* which is a common criticism thrown at especially Chinese games with all their thin and elegant goddesses and witches spilling out all over the place.
It even comes up in some of them as a plot point, when you beat this one empress in a Sword of Legends event quest, instead of dying she loses all her magic *and reverts to a fat old lady* then gets literally *shoveled* onto a palanquin and carried off by her minions 😂
@@Poglavnit_Pferdefuhrer That’s an interesting insight, too! Like there are some ideas out there that changing means you don’t love yourself. Often, changing shows you DO love yourself.
Holy cow, that scene you described! 😂 East Asian beauty standards go hard
You know it always starts with "just let us have space" and actually means "You will no longer have attractive characters because sexism"
She had to shoot the enemy with a sword because actually using it as a sword would have taken too much energy.
74%?
CITATION NEEDED!!!
The woman in that advert's biggest enemy is the treadmill
Land whales: "Stop making woman characters attractive in video games, it's harmful and disrespectful to REAL women! Make them look like us instead!"
Game developers: "How is that supposed to help us sell our products and make money?"
Land whales: "It's not supposed to be about that! It's supposed to be about giving us representation and making us feel validated in our identities!"
And then they will say that refusing to give them "validation" is basically "genocide"... Genocide, LOL. For a TES player, that's just another Tirdas. I also plan to get Goblin Genocider... Uh, Slayer Nightmare Feast when it comes out.
The advertisement doesn't seem to reflect that as much as it reflects just giving more diversity. To make more heavy characters doesn't mean you have to convert the skinny ones. The video represents a fat woman playing a thinner character rather than a thin character being made fat.
@@DarkAdonisVyers Genocide is just another term for Wednesday afternoon for seasoned gamers.
@@japaengliss1544 What they want is for all the female characters to be like that, what they want is the female NPC characters in the game to be like that. The can't stand that most of the female characters don't look like them. They want constant validation, for us to find attractive that kind of body type, and for everyone to praise them for being brave and beautiful at 240 pounds.
@@juanjoseleonvarea2495 well being so fearless in the face of slow agonizing future death can be counted as brave.... wait it's called stupid i meant stupid.
Well... they basically called 3/4 of girls playing games 'fat and unhealthy'.
From all I've encountered so far: the more common trope would be being skinny due to skipping meals for efficiency and savings.
Most the time they can actually have eye bag, dried skin and messy hair, why not focusing on those instead.
They can make it so female gamer can still become pretty even if they glued to gaming most hours instead doing this stupid things.
@@TheMattVis Indeed, all You mention is common.
yeah lol I'm a skinny girl and I play games I don't know why 74% gamer girls are fat now
@@morimori33 They likely count all the candy crush / pure mobile gamers who play on phones while eating McDonalds... I have no other explanation for their claim.
@@dandare9055 oh absolutely probably feminist fat acceptance twitter users too
If the message was "Don't feel pressured to uphold yourself to what others think is beautiful, be happy with who you are", I would support it. Too many people try to push their opinions on other people and need to respect boundaries.
A man who loved golfing once said “A Woman chooses, a consumer falls in line”.
"74% of women feel unrespresented in gaming" is a nicer way to say "74% of the women we talked to are jealous of Samus Aran".
Like really, it shows that they don't actually play games, when they talk about how girls aren't represented when one of the games that defined the metroidvania genre has a female protagonist, and that's why i call super metroid the mother and SoTN the father.
or Jill Valentine. it still is bs tho
💯
They've been purposely ignoring the existence of female characters to advance their agenda since "Jill of the Jungle," remember when all the soy simps in the 90s cheered Lara as "the first female lead?"
I, a man, am jealous of Samus Aran. Her legs muscles are intimidating
The only kind of representation I desire is fully customizable options. That way we can just choose our own skin colour, height, and body sizes.
I’ll never use sliders to make my unfit characters amorphous blobs. Out of shape characters will just be the default middle size.
Souls games, innit. I guess their only downside are mediocre and limited hair styles.
Ark Survival Evolved had a pretty good range, although I always made my character a towering, stick of a man with snow white skin, black hair, and green eyes, like some kind of knock-off Slenderman.
@@chilomine839 the only time I use sliders, is when I'm replaying a game and want my character to look ridiculous on the cutscenes.
You're missing costumes. Sure you can change anything you want to, but costume are inclusive to "customization".
When it comes to body positivity 99% of the people complaining about "fat shaming" and not feeling represented in games and media are themselves overweight and usually morbidly obese. They mistake denial for self confidence. I had someone actually tell me that being obese was not unhealthy because she "identified as healthy" I shit you not. The thing is, its much easier to complain about other people's opinions on your weight or health than it is to actually do something about it. The same woman who told me she identified as healthy had a heart attack at age 32 and at 375lbs. After that and several bypass surgeries she realized what she was doing to herself and worked hard to get healthy and has been doing much better. The amount of crap she got from former body positive "friends" was unreal. She actually had to move cities and close all her social media accounts to get away from them. There is nothing wrong with liking how you look or feel, but ignoring health problems and attacking other people for actually being healthy and working at it is not a sign of good mental health. They turn the shame they feel for letting themselves go into hate they direct at anyone that looks thinner or healtheir than they do. I had another acquaintance- not friend, I barely knew her- who was obese but trying to get healthy who went down the body positivity rabbit hole. Now she has developed type 2 diabetes and has had borh feet amputated- almost her entire left leg below the knee because she waited so long to get treatment. She stopped physical therapy after the 2nd amputation because she hated the therapists suggesting she try and get healthier and lose weight. Last I heard she's living with her grandmother because her parents refuse to help her anymore. She's gone full tumbler with being a non-binary, gender fluid, mental divergent, polyamorus wolf kin furry. I really wish I was kidding. Whats really sad is she has a kid and ex-husband that she refuses to see any more. What a f-ed up world we live in.
The sword had to shoot a lazer because if she actually tried swing it around she'd get winded quickly lol
"Someone should make more positive representation for women! Oh but not me! Someone else please!"
??? That's like walking up to a starving child and telling them that you're sure someone somewhere will want to feed them. lmao.
Perfectly said!!! Bravo!!
don't forget
Lady Dimitrescu was very body-positive, and somehow the eternal gamer embraced it in full
They need to add the tag: *This ad was paid by c-suite executives that don't know any better.*
Idk about you guys but caring way to much about how a fictional woman looks doesn’t seem to “progressive”
It’s armchair activism at work
its not about being progressive or anything, its just a beyond dumb way of saying "hey we wanna destroy the human race by making unhealthy eating acceptable and mental illness aokay so that we can get the population down to 300 million after the next pandemic we release "accidently""
I want woman to look like shrek with 6pack mooscles and 10 foot pp
Oh it’s so not. Dove has a history of crappy and regressive marketing in their attempts to seem “progressive.” I miss the “silence, brand” meme more and more.
Shhhh, they'll hear you. 😂
74%? Where the hell did they get that statistic from? Citation needed!
Also, having an overweight character in a video game is usually a hindrance because that means they have a larger hitbox. "Be yourself, because then you're a bigger target" probably isn't the message they intended.
it was a study performed by a professor with a BS in gaming psychology at the University of Anusanrectum
@@Shiirow you forgot that professor also has a masters degree in coping mechanisms by the University of Voceincapite and a PhD in victimization by the University of Tookitoutofass.
@@Shiirow Psychology is a stupid “science”. Wishy washy experimental designs and interpretation of results. How they do studies is extremely flaky and easily criticizable
I think San Andreas is the only game I’ve ever played where being fat actually makes the game harder
@@kneeofjustice9619 Yeah not many games take it into consideration, there is also Project Zomboid and Scum, both have some pretty advanced mechanics in terms of body stats, including being overweight.
I can't think of anything else tho, besides the hitbox example which applies to some FPS games..
Incredible how fictional people can make someone insecure. Now, since when representation matters more than the artist freedom of expression?
How to feel represented:
>make character ugly
>make character fat
My sides, man.
As the two people at the end pointed out, it takes a lot fo discipline to actually work out and change your eating habits. I myself went from being grossly overweight at 150kg down to about 110kg. I am still fat but feel a lot less bad about myself (also my knees aren't in constant pain anymore).
These ads aren't about promoting body positivity, they are targeting the people who didn't have the strength to change their lives and are feeling bad about themselves. Instead of picking them up and saying "hey, we know it's tough but we know you can do it" and giving them support they are basically telling them it's ok, hand them a dozen donuts and ask them to buy their soap.
People who preach body positivity but shame others for having different body types are dumb, doesn't matter what your body looks like as long as your healthy and happy
"74% of women feel underrepresented in games".
So we made a video about a fat chick in a video game.
Bruh idk if this should be taken offensively by women, or gamer girls lol. Remember the days when a woman could get offended by telling her she looks nice today? And somehow twist that to imply she doesnt look good other days? Lol.
We need some of that energy again on these woke companies
It ain't even just a "offended to be offended" deal either, they're straight up shaming thinner women with boobs or bodies similar to her before image in the armor for being "unrealistic and inherently sexual" again. "Let's change beauty" how about don't put others down to lift up someone else? It isn't hard man be nice to both people 😭
You know, if fat chicks did standard video game stuff like jumping, running and fighting, they would stop being fat real soon...
They really called female gamers fat and ugly to their face...
Just what I was looking for in my escapist fantasies: Realism!
I'm a woman and i hate this ad
I'm a girl and I hate the ad as well
Same, it’s disgraceful. No one asks for this. At least no one that’s sane.
I'm a carbon based lifeform of the male variety and I hate this ad
im also a women who hates this ad and the entire movement. its so hypocritical.
Everyone hates this ad
Surprised you didn't mention that "Women in Gaming" also follows feminist frequency, which tells us all we need to know about that profile. Just another case of feminist grifters trying to shame people.
There is this type of thing that can be referred to as white feminism that kind of is just trying to rail on men and express hatred towards them. It’s really annoying as that’s where we get the feminist stereotype
funny that they claim to be a feminist yet probably hate men and attractive women. lmao
Reminder that FemFreq actually tried to claim that the human trafficking scene from Watchdogs was an example of 'playing to the male sexual fantasy' despite the fact it was portrayed disturbingly and horrifically straight in order to play up exactly how evil the villains were in order to make the player want to kill them. At absolutely no point of the scene, nor the side-quests you can do to rescue some of the victims, is any of it supposed to make the player feel good, let alone aroused, quite the opposite actually, and yet, Anita was trying to label it in the same category as allowing the player to hire a prostitute in GTA.
@@rugalbernstein5913 They completely disregard the very concept of context. I've seen this type of stupid complaint on other things too. Basically nowadays we can't depict anything negative in media, ever. A movie depicting slavery as the terrible, horrible thing it is? oh that must be supporting slavery...right? it's so dumb. They want everything sugarcoated, cause to them simply depicting something means you like and support it.
I love Watch Dogs, and I liked when I got to save those women in the quests and also taking down the bad guys. I didn't like seeing them enslaved like that, hence why I wanted to save them which like you said is the entire point.
They once complained about "lack of diversity in Vidya" and posted a poll back in like 2015 then blocked everyone who replied with examples and gave flimsy dodges like "it doesn't count if it's an ensemble cast, _they have to be the main character_ or it's just Tokenism" like *WUT* 😅
Bruh, that 2 point diff is from all the puzzles we gotta go through to get to the next lv/area. Im surprised I've beaten the games I played as when i was lil.
How to know corpos haven't ever played a game: a case study
Big corporation complaining and not even using there own money to make games they want to see, I don’t really care if those type of games exist as long as they don’t try to push developers into something they don’t want to do
Unilever doesn't actually want to see these types of games, though, they just want to sell more soap and more ice cream to women that they are actively working on making feel bad about themselves. They want women buying comfort food, so they invent problems for women to worry about, thus selling more comfort food. It's bloody Machiavellian.
At least Nintendo wasn't like that in the past. (Sega is in fact pushing developers and rushing out for at least more demand way back when Sonic 06 released.)
@@DeerOnTheRun919 my guy I never even mentioned Nintendo, plus Pokémon is second party technically not first
True enough
Why is a soap company talking about video games?
Why is a soap company, which should be about promoting good hygiene, promoting poor health decisions?
Why is a soap company abetting unattractive qualities?
There's a reason why the men/women we find most attractive also happen to be fit and healthy.
There's a reason why fat people aren't a regular occurrence in video games, if not for parody or comedic purposes.
Fat and gross people need more soap, so this soap company is encouraging them to be fat and gross so they'll buy more soap.
People will use up more bottles of soap if they have bigger bodies. Its all a long con by Dove lmao
@@nandanthony LMAO
@@nandanthony this is big brain time
3:43 all right there in the video, note the comment he *didn't* read
There is no feeling like being able to manipulate your body however way you wish and feeling like a well-oiled machine. These people are so used to living sedentary, unhealthy lifestyles that they can't even comprehend that there's a different and better way to live. I was 260lbs a year ago. Now im hovering between 195-200. Imagine carrying around 60lbs every single day. Or even just 20. Now imagine taking off your 60lbs back pack. That feeling itself is enough. More than doubling my strength was a bonus.
6:32 That's the new MLK statue, which is just two sets of arms hugging each other, it was also mocked for being incredibly ugly (which some people suspect is by design), and looking like somebody holds a particular body part with 2 hands.
Dove wants people to be overweight because, assuming everyone has equal habits about hygiene, having a larger body mass means using more soap, so Dove would make more money
Bold of them to assume someone who isn't interested in taking care of their body is going to take care of their body.
@@camil3545Lol true
Nah the number of obese people is already the majority. Dove just doing project evil, just tell those obese people what they want. side with them. Alienate the smaller number of attractive people. Attractive people are bad, obese are good. also eat our ben & jerry.
Make walle fiction again
How devilish...
Rejecting fat is true body positivity. Pin to show I am right.
Except for animals like polar bear. Polar Bear contains fat for body warmth. So as penguins. The more colder it gets, the more fat you accumated. As for comfort, that's probably going to benefit over that over body positivity. (It uses thick fat to protect from harsher cold weather)
@@DeerOnTheRun919 … what does that have to do with anything? We are talking about human females here, not animals. We got clothes to keep us warm.
Dahmer: don't say that i like a girl with meat on her bones
@@DeerOnTheRun919 LOLLLL WOWLAHWHALES
@@DeerOnTheRun919 Thing is, we are not polar bears.
That tweet with her belf paladin specs felt so damn good! That made the campfire roast a true trashfire roast (in a good way). Dove might need to add some burn salve in their line for their wounds!
it's literally fictional why do people get so bothered whether characters are ugly attractive anything. why can't we just have good things and nobody get offended it's FANTASY😭😭😭 why can't we enjoy things without seeing ourselves in it. why does it have to reflect real life. I prefer fantasy and games when it's actually unrealistic and amazing I don't come to games and fantasy just to see people make it like ""real life""
The self insert is strong with this one XD
You want representation? Play something with character customization. Especially if they don't genderlock classes.
I prefer having two separate classes, similar as to how there are both space marines and sisters of battle in 40k
Sorry no.. cute dresses and female accesorios have to be with the gender they were designed in mind
women in games play some of the weirdest shit though, like lalafells, those creatures are like demonic babies. I dont know what representation dove was talking about. maybe weirder options are needed in games.
@@Mixhy553You’ve obviously never seen a 6’2 big buff muscular guy with facial hair thicker than cement killing everyone while in a pretty pink dress
Heh.
Look at their surprised Pikachu faces as women got mad when the body "positivity" nonsense went from "it's okay to be fat" to "we expect you to be fat."
I'm not overweight and a female gamer, but when I have the option to create my character, I NEVER make them look like me. I don't want my game characters to look like me. I want them to look cute, sexy, idealized. Because it's a fantasy.
The whole thing is patently absurd, of course. But with respect to the gamer IQ thing, tbh it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Most people tend to think of games as nothing more than interactive movies, but really they're problem solving tests: You encounter an obstacle (enemy, boss, some part of the stage itself etc.) and you have to figure out how to overcome it with the tools at your disposal. That's problem solving, and problem solving is like 90% of what IQ tests are testing for.
I agree with this. Even many shooters I play(such as Gears of War) genuinely require me to figure things out; what's the angle this grenade needs to hit the enemy? Where's a light source to keep the mutant bats from attacking me? How do I time my reload so I can get it done faster? Things like this genuinely help people think.
My vocabulary became more expanded playing fallout than learning from English class. I kid you not, one time I was in class and went “I know what this word means, a smart super mutant kept using it”
"Cut! Janet, why are you not in costume? This is the third time this week you've done this. If you do this again we WILL consider this a breach of contract and discuss your exit from the company."
"NO WAIT I need this job to pay for my many health issues that I mysteriously have!"
Nah she will just call them fatphobic and they will bow down like queen has arrived -_-
Health issues? I wonder why? 🤔
Imagine a soap company like Dove being filled with egomanicism and acting so self centered that they go as far to make a PSA like THIS?! Can’t have anything in video games according to them...
“Let’s change beauty.”
Wtf.
They say women need to stop being sexualized, but when we flip their argument back on them in regards to mega masculine males they call it a power fantasy and say it's different. Why not just encourage women to see sexualized women in games as a power fantasy as well, instead of trying to change it? Also, Nina Infinity!
as a woman i agree. literally it's a game as long as she's of age why does it matter even if they are sexualised. but nowadays a woman needs to have big breasts even if she isn't wearing or doing anything sexual and it's over sexualised apparently. absolutely nonsense 🙄
so sick of the pc bs
When I played City of Heroes back in the day we had a lot of female players, given how many I ran into and played with regularly it was a pretty high percentage. They also tended to make female characters with the breast slider cranked to the max and chose the skimpiest costume items.
@@zerrodefex my experience tells me those are guys playing as chicks and "wishful thinking" guys hoping they are girls to be flirted with (and often give stuff to). Still do not care how you play your games, more options in body types are nice (and armor options), but I find that most games have already achieved this. I find the "battle" has been fought and won, esp in "character creation" games. I know people in wheelchairs, and they sure as hell would not want to "play as person in wheelchair" unless it is a story element or a goof.
They don't want sexualized women anymore, they just want to sexualize children and declare "Sex work is real work!" but no sexualization of adult women, that's gross to modern progressives.
That dove video completely misses the point of escapism. The woman is an actress pretending to fight monsters. Typically, we like to imagine the character is actually in that world doing the fighting, which is why we'd expect them to be fit.
Exactly. Internal consistency is always the first thing out the window when the pandering patrol steps in.
You would think all that running around and fighting would burn off a lot of fat and gain muscles but apparently not
it would be ridiculous to do all these things fight so many battles... as a fat character
"Are you sure this will help us sell more soap?"
"Soap?"
they come for your sexuality, image, family, children, religion, business, and now our games?! wth
Why on Earth in video games where you can have reality be whatever you want, would you ever want there to be ugly?
Fat doesn’t equal ugly, obese is ugly, unhealthy is ugly, but just fat alone isn’t necessarily ugly
Roleplaying for escapism?
@@bowenjudd1028 It does though. If you are above the healthy range that is usually something between 15% and 20%.
I can see someone does that for shit and giggles but beyond that is actually insanity
@@BlackCroft666 15-20% of what, a bmi of 15-20% of your weight is fat? Idk what the point necessarily is. Some people may have a slower metabolism and could be in a healthy range for themselves
The Corpos are Maidenless.
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Aaaaaand there it is. Potentially explains everything that the blank account is following Feminist Frequency, implying that they are connected.
Also, it is yet another commercial/piece of media obsessed with a self-insert on a character. I'm again reminded of that study that Lego researched with; boys became the character, girls projected themselves onto the character. Oh, we're being told that some game franchise should be risked because some unknown number of female gamers can't insert themselves over a character for one reason or another (leading to a situation of no one being satisfied still)? Don't change something because you can't play/watch something the way others do, male and female alike.
Anyone else also get reminded of the trope in media that feature a scene showing a girl playing with her brother's action figures, the brother then finds out and sees her not just playing with his toys without permission, but also making the characters behave in a manner that they never would? And in some situations the girl is going to be like "What? I made it better!"
The whole Dove commercial doesn't feel like it's for the betterment of games, gamers, or the characters in the games. It comes off as announcing another topic to throw blind support/advocacy behind for the sake of benefitting a group that wants every aspect of society to behave and believe like they do.
5:36 I 100% agree with that. I tend to make characters that couldn't be more different from myself, usually going for monstruous characters like orcs, kobolds, tieflings and similar, because they allow for interesting thought processes (since I also enjoy roleplay, and I play DnD too, so, sometimes I try to think of how would my character act knowing their upbringing and who were they before the game started), like, a kobold isn't going to act the same way as a gnome, or an orc, or a human, because their upbringing and culture is completely different, and understanding that allows for some funny interactions that make them a lot more unique and memorable to me than an avatar who is exactly like me.
Thinking that people want to be represented in everything they consume it's honestly quite asinine. People don't want to see themselves in the characters, people want to be able to relate to the characters, not because they go through the exact same thing, but because they understand the core idea behind the character, and can look up to the character and root for them to achieve their goal. Maybe something as simple as the character being determined in their goal can be enough, because the players have been in their own sittuations where they wanted to do something and decided that they weren't going to buckle, because they wanted to see it through to the end (or maybe they admire that ability because they lack it, but wish they didn't lack it). Humans are complex, and trying to paint with such a broad brush the whole picture will end up looking nothing like things are in real life
Given that the majority of male characters in video games have bodies with big muscles chiseled jaws and little to no fat on them how much of a percentage do you think of the male gaming community fits that look 😂
Exactly, they would hate playing a fat dude double standards
Heckler and Koch recently had some drama that is somewhat similar.
They wised up and made some changes and deleted those tweets .
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🐍 no step on Snek!!🇺🇸🇭🇰
Huh? Did they make their guns more useable for fat people? Or what? Lol
Only time I've ever seen anyone in a video game that even remotely looks like me was in back 4 blood. Hoffman is damn near my spitting image when you give him the beard.
Bro she wasn't hot or overly sexualized even before she removed all her gear ☠️
Like you can't make this up even if you tried.
Could tell something was off and her face looked fat before she removed the helmet.
I think we should normalize calling out a lot of these ppl out for what they really are. They're just incels. It's just weird to me that they're just a reflection of male incels raging about unfair standards but instead of deriding them we're expected to not only accept it but change the world to meet what they want...
Femcels*
74% I'm so confused where this fucking stat came from and who the hell they asked.
I'm female and I know A LOT of females that play videogames who don't have an issue.
Yeah I would love to know where this stat came from. Seems out of nowhere and seems to promote that 3/4 of women are that size which...yeah I can't see even if women don't have the same body type as some game women.
Vara Dark did a video on it too, apparently the statistic came from Dove's on study a few years back. Totally unbiased/s
The 74% sounds like a garbage study that wasn’t representative of the actual gaming community. Probably took a bunch of like minded people and asked them
it was a study performed by a professor with a BS in gaming psychology at the University of Anusanrectum
@@Shiirow As a Bioinformatician undergraduate at university, there is a reason we hate sociology with a passion - their studies have horrible experimental design and flaky interpretations. It’s a shitty science lmao
I understand why a soap company would go this direction.
Bigger/taller people need to use & buy more soap to wash themselves then smaller people.
Even with the self insert for the commercial, they couldn't help but tweak her less attractive features to make the video game character look better...
I watched Thor love and Thunder in the theater when it came out. When Chris Hemsworth had his shirtless scene all of the women SCREAMED they were cheering so loud. If they can enjoy attractive bodies Why can't I?
The thing that always annoys me about this kind of ad is when they call it "real beauty".
It's essentially telling women "you're not REALLY beautiful unless you're 100+ pounds overweight".
Which is both body-shaming AND promoting bad health.
We’ve went backwards in how we see unhealthy bodies in ads
"This is real beauty, right girls?"
Women who are skinny, have bigger than average curves, are very short, or work out to gain muscle:
Seriously I'm tired of the body shaming going on, you do NOT have to shame skinnier women to lift up bigger women, or vice versa, or replace weight and women with anything else there. "Real beauty" was a borderline offensive phrase when I was a teenager because of adults idolizing being underweight, WHY are we doing that again with a different body type and weight?
Well, back 1800+ years ago, you would be considered beautiful since that means you're wealthy enough to eat
Hard to argue with you there
@@skootergirl22 more likely those who couldn't afford to eat would hate you for hording the food not find you beautiful.
I'm a guy who is 5.1 or 185 and I always play as the wackiest character available on the games.
I try to play as the robot, the animal character or the monster because I have more fun not being ME on the games.
This people just don't understand that games are an escape from reality and should not be an exact representation...
Bro Im a guy and i customize my man ingame like Greek God. Im not upset about that. Imagine someone making a character so atractive they feel offended, like wtf
Two thirds of her body mass was compressed like a gastank. How did her face not explode?
not to be that guy but, she would NOT fit in that damn suit 😂
It's a game character, this company probably thinks fat women are like inflatable balloons.
Exaggerating, but yeah, that is not great
Of course I wanna see, fit, sexy, big booba women in my video games, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna harass any woman irl. Just like everyone said in those tweets, I like to play games for escapism and there's nothing wrong with wanting a sexy female companion to join me in my gaming adventures.
Except these companies think women will have all the money in the future so they're trying to cater to their new customer base of the future way ahead of time.
Not even most women want these though.
yeah I don't think they understand that women really don't care gaming is usually an escapism and I like fantasy worlds to be fantasy not... whatever dove thinks should happen with women lmao. also its not even hard to be a thin girl, I am, you just eat right and don't be a slob then we have nothing to worry about lol
I love the fact, that gameplay in the background was from "Ready or Not" - where having bigger body can be the cause for your teammates' death
Since you have to be extremely fit, strong and fit in the doorways.
The majority of the time I meet people in the various games I play, actual women almost never seem to play female characters, while almost all of the female characters I meet in games are pretty much always men IRL. For both genders people tend to play as what they are attracted too from what I've noticed. Which means there's lots of guys running around as either token Lolis or token Giant Oppai-monsters, and a lot of women running around in games staring at their gigachad avatars posterior.
Truer words have never been spoken. As a dude, I always play the hot girl because it is more pleasant to hear a beauty scream in my ears when attacking. Meanwhile, most women really thirst for their manly characters, and a sure proof for this are vTubers to those girls ( because of anonymity) they're truly unhinged when it comes to thirsting for Husbandos.
It’s kind of funny because they’ll do this for women, but keep a full six pack guy with a larger size. It’s just ironic how they coddle womens imaging, yet guys just have to adapt(which is fine if we reach higher goals). Of course as a guy of course I want to be as cool as Siegfried, and as shredded as shao kon, don’t forget as deadly as the chief/ doom guy.
Also ps: most women in gaming play games like candy crush and bejeweled. Checkmate dove
Guys chill in the comments, it’s taking into factor the many women that play mobile games when I state that. Get off your high horses for once, my sis plays dead by daylight daily with my mother also playing cod. I know women who game, especially my Fiancé. Smh soft peeps
lmfao the last part made me wheeze. i play stuff like splatoon, kirby, osu, and cookie run kingdom QwQ
edit: omg the part at around 5:32 is so accurate!! because i don't want to look the way I do irl!! i want to be able to create the appearance i desire in games!! most people play games as escapism!!
Gender equality am I right
I laugh at the last part.
As a female, I play RPG Mobile games and DAI, sims and Koei games, Street Fighter games. 😂
@@privspiralgalaxy pet the derpy
There are plenty of chubby guys in games too. The only women who play bejeweled now are probably going to die in 20 years, I believe you are behind the times
The Escapism of video games is a very important thing as a person i have never felt jealous of a video game character I may have liked their looks but I never felt jealous of them. Or had some ridiculous body imprinted into my head that happens with movies because before I became educated about how you can look like a Chris Hemsworth I thought you could do that naturally (you can't unless you're ridiculous genetically) video games just made me happy.
We go to video games to *escape* reality not fucking immerse in it
What I've never been able to figure out is....... who the hell even wants to be "represented" in media in the first place? Who that's 10 or older anyway?