In defense of Dyson...I picked up one of the first-gen yellow vacs from a neighbor for free. It had been treated like a rented mule and some of the ABS parts down at the bottom had broken and were held on with duct tape. Fearing a huge parts bill, I called Dyson. I got a nice human on the phone almost immediately. Told them about getting it for free, broken parts, etc. She ID'd every part from my description. When I asked how much it was going to cost, she acted surprised and said, "No charge". Could hardly believe it! Three days later I had the parts. It's been nine years and the thing is going strong. Aside from all the ABS creaking like a Lego tower, it still works like a champ (and I haven't broken any parts). If their customer service is still that good today, it's worth taking into consideration.
Kettletrigger Be sure to keep an old yellow one. Those old ones were real work horses we had one for years. Then we upgraded to the ball Models and even got one of these useless garbage handheld with the bad switches that you can’t replace. None of those were worth a nickel. Stick with the old ones like the DC 14 and you actually have something
It's an example of value engineering if you compare the DC01 to the later models. The tube in the handle, is, for example, metal (aluminium I think) in the DC01/03 but plastic in the later models. The free parts is great for the consumer but also excellent information for Dyson - they have millions of running hours of data and know which bits to further (value) engineer because they don't fail, and which bits to strengthen/redesign because they regularly fail. My modern DC33 is nowhere near as good but it's still better than most vacuums that come with a long hose and could be outdone by an ashmatic octogenarian in terms of the amount of air that they move.
volvo09 I found a dc25 animal along the side of a road net to some trash cans and immediately pulled over T snatch it, if anything, I wanted to tear it apart out of curiosity. Got it home and it fired right up, only thing it needed was a new brush roll motor. Got one on ebay and lived happily ever after!
Sitting in a hospital room right now with a possible bad ticker at 38. Thanks for putting this stuff out, it really is taking my mind off of what might be happening to me right now.
I fixed vacuums for a living, dysons were the bane of my existence. If you asked Dyson to design the wheel it would have 187 moving parts, each part would be $220, it wouldn't roll as well as a normal wheel and it would wear out in the first year. And you would have to ship it across the country to get it fixed. Dyson is marketing wank plain and simple. With these handhelds, the boards go after about a year. You hold the trigger and it revs and stops, revs and stops. No way to fix it and the warranty on these guys is 2 years instead of their standard 5. Despite the hype, a good bagged vacuum will outlast a bagless every day of the week. If you have too much money and want something good buy a sebo or high end Miele. The other problem with Dyson is people believe the marketing wank and think they never have to maintain them at all so the (expensive) filters hardly ever get changed. Also, people think Dyson is some kind of genius but he designed a Venturi system to suck up dirt. You know, the kind of Venturi system that relies on clean passages for good flow. And there's no way to clean the venturis without taking out about 60 mini torx screws. Long and rambling, I know, but I needed to get that off my chest. TL:DR : Don't buy a fucking Dyson, they're 80% marketing, 20% quality.
There was a vacuum repair guy on reddit. He said the exact same thing. overrated, horrible to repair, nothing beats a well made bag-vac. Damned if Dyson isn't ever incredible at that there marketing wank, though.
Gogle Gogle I worked for a year fixing vacuums and I agree completely! I never fixed one myself because of how complex and fragile they are and the only reason my boss sold and serviced them at al was because that’s what the people want. But The Sebo is a great though and I only saw one come in for service in my short time in that line of work.
hey you Steep buy in for that, though. Have to buy a drill I don't really want. Cool form factor, though. I'm gonna buy a relatively inexpensive compact plunge saw instead. I only buy brushed tools that are corded now anyways.
MINI-SAW! I hope he's a regular on the channel now. I'm still lookin for a good reason to waste the money on one. I don't think opening dyson hand held vacs is enough though
Yeah, thank god he's not working with tree carcasses. They require more than just a shopvac. But machining metal never released any horrible allergens that need the chip-collectors and air-filters and dust-collectors and a shop-vac on top of all that.
I keep my worn out, used-for-everything, 10-year-old Karcher wet and dry shop vac for cleaning up. It screams, it howls. The hose is as much tape as hose due to cracking and wear. But Too much frustration using anything more subtle. I like a machine that will have a serious go at undoing any loose nuts and can hear that part you dropped rattle down the hose. :)
verdatum: Dust from grinding/cutting nickel-alloy metals can have you sneezing all day. Used to deal with that in the Navy shipyards way back when, during ship-alts or whatever. So some metals can be considered allergens.
I got me a genuine shop-vac brand mini vac that does alright, decent enough to do the jobs we're talking about here, and its not much bigger than a gallon of milk.
The key with they Dysons is to wait till the neighbor tosses one because they got it clogged with Easter grass and are to lazy to fix it. They are pretty easy to refurbish and have a robust parts supply chain. At least with the uprights.
Absolutely! I got two D40s out of neighbors' trash cans. Both clogged with pet hair. I cleaned them both and they work great. Now I've got one for the house and a spare waiting in the garage if i I need it!
So happy to see you review this! I bought one last week for $156 Australian doll hairs. Nice to know it is somewhat craptacular, whereas the Black and Decker Dustbuster it replaced has now been transitioned to the art bin.
Had one of these baby's for 5 years now. Works like a charm, super easy to clean out. 7:18, nope the filter hardly gets anything getting to it at all, that's how well the cyclones work. 12:41 no melting happening and why need alloy of the provided impeller works?
The cyclonic separation in the Dyson works very similar to the way Uranium is enriched by gas centrifuge... The slight different in mass between u235 and u238 is enough so separate the isotopes. it just shows that basic engineering principles that work well get used in a wide range of applications
The filter is pretty skooum though. I was watching one of AvEs vajios when the kid dumps a whole tub of paprika on the ground, only for the wife to suck the whole pile down the Dyson. It sounded like when it was hooked up to the vacuum gauge.. First filter cleaning in 3 years. Not Tee bag! Good job on the vids!
With a big pile of fine dust like that you want to go at it slower as too much sucked up at once will slow the cyclonic air speeds down to the degree they no longer work and fine dust can get pulled through into the filter. Other than that I love my various Dysons for what they are :)
Not the least bit surprised the little one got your approval. Our old yellow Dyson upright is still going strong after 15+ years, even after the motor being submerged for a few days in 6" of dirty water several years ago. Took it apart and dried it out and put it back together...good as ever.
You'll be surprised how effective those vortex separators are. That puny filter has no trouble with the residual airflow. We have pets so the problem is never blockage it's just the STANK of minute doggie particles that need washing out, before there's any loss of suction.
Helicopters sometimes use centrifugal separators smaller than this but in mass. So like a few hundred small holes that have swirl vanes to induce the vorticity.
Like Sanyo red. Google Sanyo 1300mAh, -> Sanyo UR18650SA here you go. 1300mAh and the discharge graph tell you they are LiMn2O4 cells, self balancing so they can cheap out on balancing. What do you want more :D
I own one of these cordless Dysons for quite some time now. Interestingly the filter never gets really dirty. What happens is it catches quite a bit of gritty sand-sized stuff but the fine powder dust doesn't seem to ever get to it. I suspect this was a compromise they had to make to fit this into the size they did. I hear bigger Dysons have much better separation.
thanks for taking it a-part so I don't have to do it to my wife's! measuring absolute vacuum against the dead stop is meaningless. My huge dust collector in woodworking shop will brobably produce even less gauge reading than milwakke, but it moves so much air, that it sucks assload through 4" hose. As for pleats and surface area of post filter - who cares as long as it doesn't get clogged and restrict the flow. It's there just to keep odd ballbearings that made it through the cyclone out. I have mobile dust station made with a shopvac connected though the small aliexpress cyclone cone I mounted on top of the 5 gal bucket. after three full buckets of finest sawdust from sanding, the pleated filter in the actual shopvac is still virgin clean. As long as you empty the cyclone before it overfills and burps it's contents to that last filter, it will stay clean.
Watching AvE everydAy is like having Deathpool tv series. And we can't thank you enough for the entertainment and the education you manage to drill into our soft heads
I've got one of these, very happy with it - it does seem to work as it says on the box. The brushless DC motor does seem oomphier than the competition.
That's the second Dyson video I've seen from you where it's 90% attack and 10% appreciation - followed by the product then proving itself to be well up to scratch! I'm glad you did the vacuum gauge test as that showed its true colours! :) Dyson said himself that he got into making these by seeing an industrial cyclone and wondering how he could make it smaller, well worth looking up the back story for a read.
I gotta ask AVE why a home grade vac for the shop especially a metal working shop like yours? I mean you can get a shop vac for 50-200 bucks that will be wet/dry and do everything that you need from heavy aluminum chips to sucking out the septic tank? just curious
ontheEDGE Those mini Dysons may be 90% marketing wank but they do chooch and they’re so fucking convenient. Pick it up, suck it up, put it back. No plugging shit in and dragging hoses around. Don’t know how long it’ll last in a metal shop but mine is 3 years old now and as well as normal domestic stuff it happily sucks up dead tree carcasses, brick dust, plaster dust and whatever other mess I make. The plaster dust clogs the filter, but you can just wash it out and you’re back in business.
I saw that the filter was marked with a running tap. Assumed that meant it was washable. Seems I was right for once. I do like that it's just one filter. I've seen a cyclone vac with no less than three filters. First a sponge filter to catch the most of the fine dust that made it out of the cyclone, then a charcoal filter because???, and finally a HEPA filter that still was clean as new after three years. Kind of felt that was way over the top, and that charcoal filter was a hog. Cut the airflow by something like 75%.
I have a Dyson upright I bought in 07. Still haven’t bought a new filter. I’ve had to replace the hose. But the filter is still clean. Have several pets.
They work when new, but they don't have some of the little details like the dyson. Strange things can kill them and their batteries are run hard. Good vacuum, but those batteries will die fast if you don't take great care of them.
Dysons like this deliberately pulsate when turned on and no air flow, so the pulsations while you tried to measure vacuum are normal. Like you said, the most important issue is airflow. Mine caught a big piece of crud that blocked the pipe into the cyclone cylinder. Otherwise, it works great.
Dysons cost way the electric hell too much. They suck. I mean, they're designed to suck. But they don't do it well enough for the price! Gimme a Riccar or a Filter Queen any day of the week.
I've used a Dyson vac in my house for about 5 years, and only needed to clean the washable filter once or twice. It really doesn't get much that reaches it.
Came out to my shop to clean it up and clean up the barn but dammit I threw the heat on grabbed a beverage and here I sit watching this channel...love seeing the shmooo fly and the smoke getting out... let her chooch!
Had a similar version in bits dozens of times. The power getting to the head is the weak point. Whether it is dust and dirt getting between the contacts, the board burning out and not providing power, or on the flexi head, the small wires rubbing away till they break as it it twists back and forth in use.
I want Dyson to make a hand held version of the air-blade hand dryer you see at nicer restaurant and Costco. Hand held air-blade for drying yourself off after a shower sans mold infested towel. I'd say you should fab an attachment for the hair dryer 9000 but didn't that thing end up in the art bin by way of the blendtec?
I got the DC65 animal upright and DC34 hand vac for $600 almost 5 years ago. The filter on the hand vac may look tiny, but it never clogs. Both are running just as perfect as the day I got them. Known that a product will actually do what it's designed to do is worth every penny. The hand vac can suck up crap without being directly over it, and the upright easily picks up 5-10x more dirt than any other vacuum I've used without slowing down.
Bought one of these specifically for vacuuming our front and rear staircases (already have 2 Dyson full sized “ball” cyclonic vacuums, used to supplement our weekly cleaning service). in a 5k sq ft home with two parents, 2 teens and 4 dogs...quit working after 12 months of 1xwk use... found a few DIY repair videos that referenced the need to remove any built up crud, etc.... still only runs for about 2 mins then shuts down (even with fully charged battery)....
centrifugal separators were also used to clean the intake air on vehicles. For example on the Tiger. Paper-filters would clog up rather quickly given the amount of air they need to burn their fuel.
20:40 - "Despite looking like an aborted, Ridley Scott, opium den pipe dream..." Sweet Cheeseless Crust! I nearly splattered my screen with schmoo on that one!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a heck of a time getting into the battery compartment. We have the older Shark model, and it's real handy if you have kids -- you can suck up the Legos with the cereal and pick the Lego pieces out afterwards. However, he have had the primary motor, batteries, and spinning brushy attachment motor all die, but were all replaced for free by Dyson. It's not a replacement for a real vacuum cleaner, but it does allow you to hit the hot spots and not have to vacuum as much. If you have kids and can find one of the little Dysons on sale, it's worth the money in my opinion.
my brother has had this thing since the day it was released and has used it every day, draining and charging the battery at least twice a day and it just won't die. still works just as good as the day it was bought
When you're testing vacuum pressure, isn't sealing off the end with a tiny hole a flawed test? I would assume without air flowing through the impeller, it can't generate a good enough vacuum pressure, right? Just like when you stick your hand over the vacuum, you can hear the RPMs increase because its no longer moving air. Am I thinking about that wrong?
I have a vacuum test gauge, goes to 160 inches water column, (auto motive mercury gauges not enough resolution for impeller type vacuums for my liking) and an anemometer. The vacuum gauge completely covers the intake, the vacuum won't move air with the gauge fully blocking the intake, that is correct, but, it also builds up its strongest suction, and the gauge moves accordingly. Instead of air being drawn in the fill the low pressure, as air is displaced by the impeller, the internal on the gauge is moved. When you stick your hand over the vacuum, you feel the suction. Even though no air is flowing, your hand is still stuck there till you pry it away.
Indeed Spaceman Rick. Pressure (or partial vacuum which is neg pressure) are from resistance TO flow. If there is no resistance to flow there will be no pressure. Works in a very similar way with electricity too. Voltage being analogous to pressure, current to flow and resistance to flow unsurprisingly resistance.
Yea I just got one if the small shop vacs under the workbench and have the hose(roughly 1.5" Dia) ran over to the milling machine and it's works pretty good for me
I'd really like to see you compare similar Dyson and Shark vacuums as they used to do in Shark commercials. My dad fell for Shark's marketing and got one, and I have to admit that it does work better than his old vacuum, but I'd like to see if the Dyson is even better without ponying up the legal tender myself.
I can't get over how cheap the shark products look though. Maybe my thoughts will change after looking into them, but on looks alone I couldn't buy one.
They are really quite solid. My dad has had his for a year and a half and he's hard on his appliances. It's still going strong, nothing has broken, and it's just now coming time to replace the washable filters. We all have multiple pets, and it gets a lot more hair and dust out of the carpet than the other name brand vacuums we have had, although, as I said before, we've not tried a Dyson yet.
Can't comment on the quality of the newer stuff, but I've been using and abusing my DC-01 for over 20 years and it hasn't missed a beat. It is a bigger single vortex chamber but I've found that very little of the fine dust actually makes it into the filter.
I have to say, I have one of these, best gadget ever. Used all the time and is way better than an old style vacuum (with the long attachment) weighs nothing and works as well in most circumstances. Expensive though.
The filter doesn't actually get clogged up quickly because the cyclone catches most of the stuff so the filter has much less work to do. I don't have a Dyson so cannot say for sure but I do have a 10 year old Samsung 1600 watt vacuum with a simpler looking cyclone and a similar size filter. The filter is much smaller but corrugated ending up with about the same surface area. The filter lasts the equivalent of two or three bags of my previous bag vacuum before I need to wash it, which is something that doesn't take much effort as it has only very fine dust which seems to simply dissolve out under warm running tap water. I have only needed to replace the filter once in 10 years after it had eventually accumulated some undissolvable muck as well as some perforations.
In Loudspeaker design, you use an Aluminium or Plastic support structure (Basket) to reduce flux leakage suck off from the magnet. I used to measure anything up to 10% flux density loss in the magnetic gap for the voice coil when ever the same magnet structure was used with a pressed metal (iron) housing structure. I'd suggest the reason that Dyson may have used a plastic housing structure may very well be for the same reason George
*You made a mistake in the way you tested the suck!* You should have poked a hole or even a few holes in the tape, because the Mefucky sucky has an impeller that has very large tolerances, it's designed to provide suck through airflow, using the speed of the air itself to create a pressure differential at the mouth (Bernoulli's). So it sucks at sucking if it's obstructed because the air can just pass right by the impeller, it doesn't create a vacuum per say just a pressure differential with the surrounding air. In the Diesoon, the impeller is of the turbocharger type and has less than a milimeter of dead space around it, so it's good at creating an actual vacuum inside of it rather than just at the mouth. In actual use the Diesoon is better for heavy, larger particles because it can do the lifting, whilst the Milfucky will be better for dust and small, light particles because of the airflow. In fact if you test the airflow at the exaust it might beat the Diesoon. P.S. If you keep on using this fucking cute ass lill'chainsaw on video I'm gonna end up buying one. Stop now whilst the bulge in my jeans is still visible. My pocket bulge. From all the pennies.
Gotta be honest, I've had the previous model of that vacuum for a few years and have never cleaned the filter. I used it on rugs with a lot of dust and dog hair. Sometimes out in the garage.
$250 for some, literally, sucky plastic, no thanks. I'd rather spend it down at the old rub and tug factory.(Not to be confused with the rug and tub factory)
Have used Dysons way past their design limits for some time now. The filter is primarily there for when you don't empty the bin or block the airflow completely. The cyclone collapses and everything goes straight through. If you're sucking up really fine concrete dust (I was using it to extract from a homemade diamond slab grinder), the bottoms of the cones will get slightly eaten away. It's still a really nice design, but it is not too forgiving of actual work - some people like to shove their implement as far into the surface they want cleaned - which is not how these things work best. Nice teardown, felt for you when the wires went sproing.
I have one of those that I use in my office. I have had it about 2 years and while it's a pain in the ass because it gets plugged up by debris pretty easily in the spinny end, it works well.
I was hoping you were going to do a review of Dyson's cordless vac with the "digital" motor they claim took them 8 yrs to engineer... www.dyson.com/vacuum-cleaners/cordless/engineering-story.aspx
i have the same unit for years now.. but i bought a new battery bought from amazon.de with larger capacity.. i can attest that the the cyclonic thingy works good but not perfect i find sum dirt hair in the filter .. more as the unit is older now.. but your also correct the battery lasted years. i think i have it for 10yr or something like that.. and it's still going strong just a new battery ..
One of those lasted GF 2 weeks (and that was one who "never" cleaned btw). Hoovered some baking soda of the carpet, that killed the fucker. Took the thing apart and pretty much the entire motor controller had gone (Dyson, ever heard of conformal coating?!). It's an over hyped fancy glamour girls accessory, it has nothing related to getting real work done even less of a place in a workshop.
Good to know. What would be the difference between a shop vacuum with and without one of those preclean cone shaped things and or and normal vac for comparison. Cheap v’s half the cost of a 🐄
That water faucet outline printed on the filter tells me the Dyson filter can be washed clean. That Milcrappy filter doesn't take kindly to a lot of water I'm thinking.
We wash the cleanable filter out of ours about once or twice a year. Every two years or so I take apart the full sized one and run the cyclone parts through the dish washer.
AvE your not comparing like with like on the filter, the one in the milwaukee has to do ALL the filtering of big and dusty chunks but the one in the dyson only has to filter out the smallest particles. This in turn means that the dyson filter doesn't have to be as big or have pletes as it can make use of the electrostatic effect to capture the fine dust particles in its fabric filter, meaning it can be a washable reusable filter. A bit like a K&N auto air filter but without the oil.
Got the spousal unit one of these a while back. Sucks great, but doesn't last a long time. Wish the batteries were hot-swap. Wonder if I could adapt a Milfucky one to go on it.
I wonder if they use pet in the motor since pet can flex quite a bit before breaking. Pet bottles dont just break in half. I use petg for 3d printing and it holds up pretty good and can take some abuse.
The phallic appendage out front is designed to entice the Mrs to buy.
John Ratko I firmly believe that.
Cici Bradley firmly ;)
John Ratko time for your daily circle jerk fella,/
Worked for me....LOL
John Ratko i was taught centrifugal "force" is the the over powering of centripetal force
I told the Mrs to sell our Dyson....It's just collecting dust.
Haha
Ba Dum Tish .....
This joke sucks
😂😂😂 haha omg that is tooo funny! I'm Soo going to use that next time I have the chance 😁
@@sauledcoch8156 it won't suck when you'll become a dad.
In defense of Dyson...I picked up one of the first-gen yellow vacs from a neighbor for free. It had been treated like a rented mule and some of the ABS parts down at the bottom had broken and were held on with duct tape. Fearing a huge parts bill, I called Dyson. I got a nice human on the phone almost immediately. Told them about getting it for free, broken parts, etc. She ID'd every part from my description. When I asked how much it was going to cost, she acted surprised and said, "No charge". Could hardly believe it! Three days later I had the parts.
It's been nine years and the thing is going strong. Aside from all the ABS creaking like a Lego tower, it still works like a champ (and I haven't broken any parts). If their customer service is still that good today, it's worth taking into consideration.
like you, I'll get my first Dyson when I come across one in the trash. I totally want to fix one up.
Kettletrigger Be sure to keep an old yellow one. Those old ones were real work horses we had one for years. Then we upgraded to the ball Models and even got one of these useless garbage handheld with the bad switches that you can’t replace. None of those were worth a nickel. Stick with the old ones like the DC 14 and you actually have something
My wife still has one of the old yellow ones. She wanted it for Christmas. We got it on Black Friday for about half price.
It's an example of value engineering if you compare the DC01 to the later models. The tube in the handle, is, for example, metal (aluminium I think) in the DC01/03 but plastic in the later models.
The free parts is great for the consumer but also excellent information for Dyson - they have millions of running hours of data and know which bits to further (value) engineer because they don't fail, and which bits to strengthen/redesign because they regularly fail.
My modern DC33 is nowhere near as good but it's still better than most vacuums that come with a long hose and could be outdone by an ashmatic octogenarian in terms of the amount of air that they move.
volvo09 I found a dc25 animal along the side of a road net to some trash cans and immediately pulled over T snatch it, if anything, I wanted to tear it apart out of curiosity. Got it home and it fired right up, only thing it needed was a new brush roll motor. Got one on ebay and lived happily ever after!
Sitting in a hospital room right now with a possible bad ticker at 38. Thanks for putting this stuff out, it really is taking my mind off of what might be happening to me right now.
Hope all goes well Rob!! Try not to pinch the cure nurses...
go to a clock maker if the hospital doesnt help. might get your ticking right
Take care dude, a co worker went through something similar last year at 45, they got him sorted. He just has to be careful.
volvo09 thanks bud. Its just been non stop poking and prodding so far. I appreciate the kind words though
Jared Connell thanks man. Things are looking up
Thank you from the bottom of my ear tubes for muting the sound of the Dyson. Fark i hate the scream on those things
That is what you get for thinking!! :)
Steve James have you heard the new ones? They're the quietist vacuum there is. The Dyson he's using in the vid is old.
I'd scream too if I was brought into this world looking like that abomination.
norweeg: . . . 'You must assimilate, resistance is futile . . . . .'
Steve James lol yes i know how it feels we've got a dyson dc49 ball its irritatin
I fixed vacuums for a living, dysons were the bane of my existence. If you asked Dyson to design the wheel it would have 187 moving parts, each part would be $220, it wouldn't roll as well as a normal wheel and it would wear out in the first year. And you would have to ship it across the country to get it fixed.
Dyson is marketing wank plain and simple. With these handhelds, the boards go after about a year. You hold the trigger and it revs and stops, revs and stops. No way to fix it and the warranty on these guys is 2 years instead of their standard 5.
Despite the hype, a good bagged vacuum will outlast a bagless every day of the week. If you have too much money and want something good buy a sebo or high end Miele.
The other problem with Dyson is people believe the marketing wank and think they never have to maintain them at all so the (expensive) filters hardly ever get changed.
Also, people think Dyson is some kind of genius but he designed a Venturi system to suck up dirt. You know, the kind of Venturi system that relies on clean passages for good flow. And there's no way to clean the venturis without taking out about 60 mini torx screws.
Long and rambling, I know, but I needed to get that off my chest.
TL:DR : Don't buy a fucking Dyson, they're 80% marketing, 20% quality.
Gogle Gogle Old Tri-Star vacuums go for cheap on EBay. Such a good vacuum, but nobody knows about them.
Why don't you tell us what you really think?
Thank you for your service, sir.
There was a vacuum repair guy on reddit. He said the exact same thing. overrated, horrible to repair, nothing beats a well made bag-vac.
Damned if Dyson isn't ever incredible at that there marketing wank, though.
Gogle Gogle I worked for a year fixing vacuums and I agree completely! I never fixed one myself because of how complex and fragile they are and the only reason my boss sold and serviced them at al was because that’s what the people want. But The Sebo is a great though and I only saw one come in for service in my short time in that line of work.
I need one of those chain saws. Absolutely the best way to open a box
Scott Saladino Bosch needs to stop being so inconsistent with what they will release overseas.
Have you seen the Black & Decker drill saw multi tool?
It has a miniature circular saw that is perfect for large size cardboard.
hey you Steep buy in for that, though. Have to buy a drill I don't really want. Cool form factor, though. I'm gonna buy a relatively inexpensive compact plunge saw instead. I only buy brushed tools that are corded now anyways.
It would appear that he really does like that nano chainsaw. Ive never seen him open so many boxes in the same way.
even though it's useless in every possible way it's god tier at opening boxes and being an everyday carry chainsaw
Like he's in a race every time
Has the "focus you fuck"-camera been retired? I miss it
MINI-SAW! I hope he's a regular on the channel now. I'm still lookin for a good reason to waste the money on one. I don't think opening dyson hand held vacs is enough though
funkyzero cutting lil' sticks, cutting lil' fingers, cutting lil'... Tree carcasses
The mini -saw is just about the best cardboard box mutilator I've ever seen.
What a time to be alive.
Applying alulilum tape and then using the plasma cutter is still my fave.
Every man needs one in his sewing kit
MattOGormanSmith what video did he do that?
Use a Shopvac (or equivalent) to clean up your mill. The Dyson and Milfucky are for cleaning your purse....
Yeah, that pumpkin spice powder gets everywhere.
Yeah, thank god he's not working with tree carcasses. They require more than just a shopvac. But machining metal never released any horrible allergens that need the chip-collectors and air-filters and dust-collectors and a shop-vac on top of all that.
I keep my worn out, used-for-everything, 10-year-old Karcher wet and dry shop vac for cleaning up. It screams, it howls. The hose is as much tape as hose due to cracking and wear. But Too much frustration using anything more subtle. I like a machine that will have a serious go at undoing any loose nuts and can hear that part you dropped rattle down the hose. :)
verdatum: Dust from grinding/cutting nickel-alloy metals can have you sneezing all day. Used to deal with that in the Navy shipyards way back when, during ship-alts or whatever. So some metals can be considered allergens.
I got me a genuine shop-vac brand mini vac that does alright, decent enough to do the jobs we're talking about here, and its not much bigger than a gallon of milk.
This channel is what RUclips should be. My brain works better because of AvE.
The key with they Dysons is to wait till the neighbor tosses one because they got it clogged with Easter grass and are to lazy to fix it. They are pretty easy to refurbish and have a robust parts supply chain. At least with the uprights.
Absolutely! I got two D40s out of neighbors' trash cans. Both clogged with pet hair. I cleaned them both and they work great. Now I've got one for the house and a spare waiting in the garage if i I need it!
So happy to see you review this! I bought one last week for $156 Australian doll hairs. Nice to know it is somewhat craptacular, whereas the Black and Decker Dustbuster it replaced has now been transitioned to the art bin.
Seems like they could get the paint right when they're charging so much for it.
Had one of these baby's for 5 years now. Works like a charm, super easy to clean out.
7:18, nope the filter hardly gets anything getting to it at all, that's how well the cyclones work.
12:41 no melting happening and why need alloy of the provided impeller works?
The cyclonic separation in the Dyson works very similar to the way Uranium is enriched by gas centrifuge... The slight different in mass between u235 and u238 is enough so separate the isotopes. it just shows that basic engineering principles that work well get used in a wide range of applications
just got around to seeing this. But for sliding the rubber i learned you should just spit a big green one on there, works great every time.
I'm waiting on him to cut something in half with his little finger remover!
AVE..... you are by far,above and beyond, the absolute best entertainment on RUclips! Keep up the good videos. Nothing compares.
The filter is pretty skooum though. I was watching one of AvEs vajios when the kid dumps a whole tub of paprika on the ground, only for the wife to suck the whole pile down the Dyson. It sounded like when it was hooked up to the vacuum gauge.. First filter cleaning in 3 years. Not Tee bag!
Good job on the vids!
With a big pile of fine dust like that you want to go at it slower as too much sucked up at once will slow the cyclonic air speeds down to the degree they no longer work and fine dust can get pulled through into the filter.
Other than that I love my various Dysons for what they are :)
Not the least bit surprised the little one got your approval. Our old yellow Dyson upright is still going strong after 15+ years, even after the motor being submerged for a few days in 6" of dirty water several years ago. Took it apart and dried it out and put it back together...good as ever.
You'll be surprised how effective those vortex separators are. That puny filter has no trouble with the residual airflow. We have pets so the problem is never blockage it's just the STANK of minute doggie particles that need washing out, before there's any loss of suction.
Helicopters sometimes use centrifugal separators smaller than this but in mass. So like a few hundred small holes that have swirl vanes to induce the vorticity.
the first most dangerous tool being uncle bumblefuck?
Did you just call him a tool? He's very dorky but a useful tool he is not.
Arnþór Gíslason I think it is the mini saw he used for the unboxing
The most dangerous tool in the shop is the one he recommends keeping in a vice.
He might not be the dangerous, but the sharpest one for sure.
We need more reviewes! I'm in my tow truck 6 out of 7 days at about 70+ hours a week. I wish he had reviews up every 2 days. I'd be much happier haha
I like how you destroy the battery, and all you gain is discovering its colour.
But that tells us which cells are used
Yeah, red ones.
Like Sanyo red. Google Sanyo 1300mAh, -> Sanyo UR18650SA here you go. 1300mAh and the discharge graph tell you they are LiMn2O4 cells, self balancing so they can cheap out on balancing. What do you want more :D
M1 K. Wupti doo
This guy batteries
I own one of these cordless Dysons for quite some time now. Interestingly the filter never gets really dirty. What happens is it catches quite a bit of gritty sand-sized stuff but the fine powder dust doesn't seem to ever get to it. I suspect this was a compromise they had to make to fit this into the size they did. I hear bigger Dysons have much better separation.
thanks for taking it a-part so I don't have to do it to my wife's! measuring absolute vacuum against the dead stop is meaningless. My huge dust collector in woodworking shop will brobably produce even less gauge reading than milwakke, but it moves so much air, that it sucks assload through 4" hose. As for pleats and surface area of post filter - who cares as long as it doesn't get clogged and restrict the flow. It's there just to keep odd ballbearings that made it through the cyclone out. I have mobile dust station made with a shopvac connected though the small aliexpress cyclone cone I mounted on top of the 5 gal bucket. after three full buckets of finest sawdust from sanding, the pleated filter in the actual shopvac is still virgin clean. As long as you empty the cyclone before it overfills and burps it's contents to that last filter, it will stay clean.
Watching AvE everydAy is like having Deathpool tv series. And we can't thank you enough for the entertainment and the education you manage to drill into our soft heads
I've got one of these, very happy with it - it does seem to work as it says on the box. The brushless DC motor does seem oomphier than the competition.
Don't dare call it brushless! It's DIGITAL!! Haha
That's the second Dyson video I've seen from you where it's 90% attack and 10% appreciation - followed by the product then proving itself to be well up to scratch! I'm glad you did the vacuum gauge test as that showed its true colours! :)
Dyson said himself that he got into making these by seeing an industrial cyclone and wondering how he could make it smaller, well worth looking up the back story for a read.
“Ya never get what ya don’t pay for , unless of course you work for the government !”
Simple yet profound wisdom
Thank you!! My lady watched this and no longer wants the Dyson she has been pestering me for!
I gotta ask AVE why a home grade vac for the shop especially a metal working shop like yours? I mean you can get a shop vac for 50-200 bucks that will be wet/dry and do everything that you need from heavy aluminum chips to sucking out the septic tank? just curious
ontheEDGE Those mini Dysons may be 90% marketing wank but they do chooch and they’re so fucking convenient. Pick it up, suck it up, put it back. No plugging shit in and dragging hoses around. Don’t know how long it’ll last in a metal shop but mine is 3 years old now and as well as normal domestic stuff it happily sucks up dead tree carcasses, brick dust, plaster dust and whatever other mess I make. The plaster dust clogs the filter, but you can just wash it out and you’re back in business.
I saw that the filter was marked with a running tap. Assumed that meant it was washable. Seems I was right for once. I do like that it's just one filter. I've seen a cyclone vac with no less than three filters. First a sponge filter to catch the most of the fine dust that made it out of the cyclone, then a charcoal filter because???, and finally a HEPA filter that still was clean as new after three years. Kind of felt that was way over the top, and that charcoal filter was a hog. Cut the airflow by something like 75%.
@@blahorgaslisk7763 the charcoal is for sucking up farts.
I have a Dyson upright I bought in 07. Still haven’t bought a new filter. I’ve had to replace the hose. But the filter is still clean. Have several pets.
What abotu the Mini Shark? They claim to be as good as dyson and theyre like 60 bucks
I have an extremely old one, they have one hell of a motor in them, the start up torque just about makes it jump out of your hand. Certainly works.
ditto, corded model worth every cent
They work when new, but they don't have some of the little details like the dyson. Strange things can kill them and their batteries are run hard. Good vacuum, but those batteries will die fast if you don't take great care of them.
Picked up the small one that looks like the willfuckye, works well on small stuff but can't pickup a penny on hardwood.
Probably not hard to re-cell the batteries with something that'll last though, and cheap to boot.
Dysons like this deliberately pulsate when turned on and no air flow, so the pulsations while you tried to measure vacuum are normal. Like you said, the most important issue is airflow. Mine caught a big piece of crud that blocked the pipe into the cyclone cylinder. Otherwise, it works great.
250 doll hairs!? For that kind of money, I'd expect smooth, and modern trimmings.
Yeah, and no ABS.
watch woot.com they have refurbs now and again.
home.woot.com/offers/dyson-dc56-handheld-vacuum-white-44?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_home_17_1
Dysons cost way the electric hell too much. They suck.
I mean, they're designed to suck. But they don't do it well enough for the price! Gimme a Riccar or a Filter Queen any day of the week.
@ Eric Do you have one? I have one and by this video does a better job. That and my woot link has'em, for 80$... sooo yeah
I've used a Dyson vac in my house for about 5 years, and only needed to clean the washable filter once or twice. It really doesn't get much that reaches it.
This is an older model. The new ones feel more rigid and better built.
Came out to my shop to clean it up and clean up the barn but dammit I threw the heat on grabbed a beverage and here I sit watching this channel...love seeing the shmooo fly and the smoke getting out... let her chooch!
My favorite thing from Milwaukee is...
Red Letter Media.
100%
Mr. Plinkett would be proud.
does the plastic motor housing prevent eddy currents?
I've been using one of these as a tradesman for years. I can say it's brilliant. Filter only blocks if you over fill with sanding dust.
you must have child sized hands, how has that fucking plastic around the trigger not given you endless blisters?
Had a similar version in bits dozens of times. The power getting to the head is the weak point. Whether it is dust and dirt getting between the contacts, the board burning out and not providing power, or on the flexi head, the small wires rubbing away till they break as it it twists back and forth in use.
I want Dyson to make a hand held version of the air-blade hand dryer you see at nicer restaurant and Costco. Hand held air-blade for drying yourself off after a shower sans mold infested towel. I'd say you should fab an attachment for the hair dryer 9000 but didn't that thing end up in the art bin by way of the blendtec?
First time I seen one of them air blades I thought it was a urinal.....that got messy in a hurry.
i just wash my towels
jokkerb A recent study said the Dyson hand dryer spreads the most germs. The least? Disposable paper towels.
And hang it up to dry.
You know you can wash towels...
that cycling off and on is a feature that helps trapped stuff get dislodged and fall back out on their own.
every thing you own has pry marks on it... lmmfao i love it...
I got the DC65 animal upright and DC34 hand vac for $600 almost 5 years ago. The filter on the hand vac may look tiny, but it never clogs. Both are running just as perfect as the day I got them. Known that a product will actually do what it's designed to do is worth every penny. The hand vac can suck up crap without being directly over it, and the upright easily picks up 5-10x more dirt than any other vacuum I've used without slowing down.
Next he's gonna complain the hole is too large on the suck end.
The blue language is my least favourite part of dear old uncle BF; but your comment gave me a guilty smile.
My Mother got one of these recently due to her decreased mobility. The lightweight of the device is actually really helpful for her.
My boy hadn't seen the mini chain saw yet, he was cracking up.
Bought one of these specifically for vacuuming our front and rear staircases (already have 2 Dyson full sized “ball” cyclonic vacuums, used to supplement our weekly cleaning service). in a 5k sq ft home with two parents, 2 teens and 4 dogs...quit working after 12 months of 1xwk use... found a few DIY repair videos that referenced the need to remove any built up crud, etc.... still only runs for about 2 mins then shuts down (even with fully charged battery)....
Dyson just sponsored Linus Tech Tips. They're coming for you next AvE!
centrifugal separators were also used to clean the intake air on vehicles. For example on the Tiger.
Paper-filters would clog up rather quickly given the amount of air they need to burn their fuel.
20:40 - "Despite looking like an aborted, Ridley Scott, opium den pipe dream..." Sweet Cheeseless Crust! I nearly splattered my screen with schmoo on that one!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a heck of a time getting into the battery compartment. We have the older Shark model, and it's real handy if you have kids -- you can suck up the Legos with the cereal and pick the Lego pieces out afterwards. However, he have had the primary motor, batteries, and spinning brushy attachment motor all die, but were all replaced for free by Dyson. It's not a replacement for a real vacuum cleaner, but it does allow you to hit the hot spots and not have to vacuum as much. If you have kids and can find one of the little Dysons on sale, it's worth the money in my opinion.
Isn't that centrifugal not centripetal forces?
Evergreen I believe you are correct sir
Neither, rotational inertia.
MJorgy5, nope, rotational inertia is if the cyclone kept going, drawing air and dust after the impeller stopped spinning.
my brother has had this thing since the day it was released and has used it every day, draining and charging the battery at least twice a day and it just won't die. still works just as good as the day it was bought
How did I just get the notification for this video now?
I'm not sure, but it's got something to do with ones and zeros.
its usually 15 minutes after a vaginao is poked, i mean posted for me.
He posts a week early unlisted for patreons to check if its gunna get flagged for bullshit
Yeah same, but RUclips says the video was posted today but it's showing comments from 5-6 days ago. RUclips what in the FUCK - FOCUS!
He uploads them as unlisted videos for a bit (a week maybe?) for patreon viewers only, then he releases them to the public.
Wouldn't the vacuum gauge only read as low as the air bypass spring to prevent the motor from overheating?
You should open a box with a plasma cuter again only the greatest RUclips videos on the internet my dad loves the videos
Worked great first two times but burned up on third use hope I can return it.
When you're testing vacuum pressure, isn't sealing off the end with a tiny hole a flawed test? I would assume without air flowing through the impeller, it can't generate a good enough vacuum pressure, right? Just like when you stick your hand over the vacuum, you can hear the RPMs increase because its no longer moving air. Am I thinking about that wrong?
Just overthinking it a tad there. Vacuum is just that a "vacuum". All the air sucked out of it...
I think you are correct here. The impeller, laminar air flow, yada yada yada.
I have a vacuum test gauge, goes to 160 inches water column, (auto motive mercury gauges not enough resolution for impeller type vacuums for my liking) and an anemometer. The vacuum gauge completely covers the intake, the vacuum won't move air with the gauge fully blocking the intake, that is correct, but, it also builds up its strongest suction, and the gauge moves accordingly. Instead of air being drawn in the fill the low pressure, as air is displaced by the impeller, the internal on the gauge is moved.
When you stick your hand over the vacuum, you feel the suction. Even though no air is flowing, your hand is still stuck there till you pry it away.
Indeed Spaceman Rick.
Pressure (or partial vacuum which is neg pressure) are from resistance TO flow. If there is no resistance to flow there will be no pressure. Works in a very similar way with electricity too. Voltage being analogous to pressure, current to flow and resistance to flow unsurprisingly resistance.
Care to look into the new V11? The brushes pack some torque, glad I checked with my finger first.
Plastic housing for weight saving? You do have to carry it around...
James Taylor that was my assumption.
plastic is softer for the hands of the wife thats got to use it.
Plastic is heavy. You get a lot more strength with less weight using metal, unless we get into fancy composite stuff.
Ray Cathcart It is fancy composite stuff indeed. Glass fiber composites, not the lightest, but strong
Yeah well I thought we were talking about weight! :)
I’m still waiting for the day that he does a BOLTR on a Dyson bladeless fan.
At least the vacuum doesn't talk back "me love you long time".
Oscar Gonzalez
If by "long time," you mean about 8 and a half minutes, sure.
Yea I just got one if the small shop vacs under the workbench and have the hose(roughly 1.5" Dia) ran over to the milling machine and it's works pretty good for me
I'd really like to see you compare similar Dyson and Shark vacuums as they used to do in Shark commercials. My dad fell for Shark's marketing and got one, and I have to admit that it does work better than his old vacuum, but I'd like to see if the Dyson is even better without ponying up the legal tender myself.
I can't get over how cheap the shark products look though. Maybe my thoughts will change after looking into them, but on looks alone I couldn't buy one.
They are really quite solid. My dad has had his for a year and a half and he's hard on his appliances. It's still going strong, nothing has broken, and it's just now coming time to replace the washable filters. We all have multiple pets, and it gets a lot more hair and dust out of the carpet than the other name brand vacuums we have had, although, as I said before, we've not tried a Dyson yet.
Shark vacuum works very well
Can't comment on the quality of the newer stuff, but I've been using and abusing my DC-01 for over 20 years and it hasn't missed a beat. It is a bigger single vortex chamber but I've found that very little of the fine dust actually makes it into the filter.
I have to say, I have one of these, best gadget ever. Used all the time and is way better than an old style vacuum (with the long attachment) weighs nothing and works as well in most circumstances. Expensive though.
The filter doesn't actually get clogged up quickly because the cyclone catches most of the stuff so the filter has much less work to do.
I don't have a Dyson so cannot say for sure but I do have a 10 year old Samsung 1600 watt vacuum with a simpler looking cyclone and a similar size filter. The filter is much smaller but corrugated ending up with about the same surface area. The filter lasts the equivalent of two or three bags of my previous bag vacuum before I need to wash it, which is something that doesn't take much effort as it has only very fine dust which seems to simply dissolve out under warm running tap water.
I have only needed to replace the filter once in 10 years after it had eventually accumulated some undissolvable muck as well as some perforations.
You and the damn Bosch saw....
In Loudspeaker design, you use an Aluminium or Plastic support structure (Basket) to reduce flux leakage suck off from the magnet. I used to measure anything up to 10% flux density loss in the magnetic gap for the voice coil when ever the same magnet structure was used with a pressed metal (iron) housing structure.
I'd suggest the reason that Dyson may have used a plastic housing structure may very well be for the same reason
George
*You made a mistake in the way you tested the suck!* You should have poked a hole or even a few holes in the tape, because the Mefucky sucky has an impeller that has very large tolerances, it's designed to provide suck through airflow, using the speed of the air itself to create a pressure differential at the mouth (Bernoulli's). So it sucks at sucking if it's obstructed because the air can just pass right by the impeller, it doesn't create a vacuum per say just a pressure differential with the surrounding air. In the Diesoon, the impeller is of the turbocharger type and has less than a milimeter of dead space around it, so it's good at creating an actual vacuum inside of it rather than just at the mouth. In actual use the Diesoon is better for heavy, larger particles because it can do the lifting, whilst the Milfucky will be better for dust and small, light particles because of the airflow. In fact if you test the airflow at the exaust it might beat the Diesoon.
P.S. If you keep on using this fucking cute ass lill'chainsaw on video I'm gonna end up buying one. Stop now whilst the bulge in my jeans is still visible. My pocket bulge. From all the pennies.
Gotta be honest, I've had the previous model of that vacuum for a few years and have never cleaned the filter. I used it on rugs with a lot of dust and dog hair. Sometimes out in the garage.
$250 for some, literally, sucky plastic, no thanks. I'd rather spend it down at the old rub and tug factory.(Not to be confused with the rug and tub factory)
Have used Dysons way past their design limits for some time now. The filter is primarily there for when you don't empty the bin or block the airflow completely. The cyclone collapses and everything goes straight through. If you're sucking up really fine concrete dust (I was using it to extract from a homemade diamond slab grinder), the bottoms of the cones will get slightly eaten away. It's still a really nice design, but it is not too forgiving of actual work - some people like to shove their implement as far into the surface they want cleaned - which is not how these things work best. Nice teardown, felt for you when the wires went sproing.
"Ridley Scott aborted opium den pipe dream"
The reason why I watch this channel.
got mine off woot for like 80$ refurb. Had it for a couple years now. works OK... battery life is VERY short on overdrive with the floor sucker going.
I'm sure you have multiple "Fleshlights". All 3 orifices. LOL
I have one of those that I use in my office. I have had it about 2 years and while it's a pain in the ass because it gets plugged up by debris pretty easily in the spinny end, it works well.
I was hoping you were going to do a review of Dyson's cordless vac with the "digital" motor they claim took them 8 yrs to engineer... www.dyson.com/vacuum-cleaners/cordless/engineering-story.aspx
K. Soze He did do a review of a dyson hair dryer featuring the digital motor. ruclips.net/video/YfnyhoEZXhM/видео.html
Why? It's basically a glorified alarm clock motor, shaded poles and all...
Yeah the v8 ones are more expensive and seem to be quite a bit better in all aspects.
i have the same unit for years now.. but i bought a new battery bought from amazon.de with larger capacity.. i can attest that the the cyclonic thingy works good but not perfect i find sum dirt hair in the filter .. more as the unit is older now.. but your also correct the battery lasted years. i think i have it for 10yr or something like that.. and it's still going strong just a new battery ..
Dyson is the apple of domestic wares, fancy lookin, but NFG
As the end of this video shows, this device actually works well. Whether it is actually worth the money or not is up to you.
so you didn't watch the video then?
It's built decent. But you pay for fancy colors and marketing
One of those lasted GF 2 weeks (and that was one who "never" cleaned btw). Hoovered some baking soda of the carpet, that killed the fucker. Took the thing apart and pretty much the entire motor controller had gone (Dyson, ever heard of conformal coating?!). It's an over hyped fancy glamour girls accessory, it has nothing related to getting real work done even less of a place in a workshop.
Not sure what planet you live on buy my animal 2 sucks better than any other vac and cleans the dog hair off my couch in no time.
Good to know. What would be the difference between a shop vacuum with and without one of those preclean cone shaped things and or and normal vac for comparison. Cheap v’s half the cost of a 🐄
Just can't bring myself to buy Dyson. He's a cock womble, I'm apparently investing in UK manufacturing buy sending it to Malaysia.
That water faucet outline printed on the filter tells me the Dyson filter can be washed clean. That Milcrappy filter doesn't take kindly to a lot of water I'm thinking.
all just stick with my bluepount pneumatic vacuum no moving parts and no battery to deal with I avoid angry Pixies as often as I can
One of the only snapon tools not to cost your firstborn.
Yes but what powers your compressor?
MR PORKCHOP HAHAHAHA it's a dusan 185 so yeah it's bad ass 185 cfm at 110 psi . I chooches!
We wash the cleanable filter out of ours about once or twice a year. Every two years or so I take apart the full sized one and run the cyclone parts through the dish washer.
AvE your not comparing like with like on the filter, the one in the milwaukee has to do ALL the filtering of big and dusty chunks but the one in the dyson only has to filter out the smallest particles. This in turn means that the dyson filter doesn't have to be as big or have pletes as it can make use of the electrostatic effect to capture the fine dust particles in its fabric filter, meaning it can be a washable reusable filter. A bit like a K&N auto air filter but without the oil.
12:10 how would a thermoset plastic be injection molded? I always thought thermoplasticity was a must for injection molding.
Got the spousal unit one of these a while back. Sucks great, but doesn't last a long time. Wish the batteries were hot-swap. Wonder if I could adapt a Milfucky one to go on it.
Yep.. especially when you use that turbo "MAX" button. Batterly life is absolute shit.
By far the best box opening apparatus I have ever glued my eyes to!!!
Dear lord I love the commentary! Throws out the knowledge, then throws out the farks! Great stuff
Well you just taught me the relationship between Zorro, his name and his mask. Never taught I'd learn about literature from a vacuum cleaner teardown.
I wonder if they use pet in the motor since pet can flex quite a bit before breaking. Pet bottles dont just break in half. I use petg for 3d printing and it holds up pretty good and can take some abuse.
The placky engine block would to be save some weight yes?