BOLTR: Hilti Cordless Grinder | "Never seen this before!"
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2019
- I been using this expensive Hilti and wanted to see how the build quality stacks up to Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee grinders. Surprisingly it IS brushless and the drive mechanism is nothing like we've seen before. It's got a brushless motor and a chinsy little coupling arrangement.
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Ave please don't worry about the splatter as i wiped it off this end 🤪
It's spatter like he said not splatter
@@blairforce1755 Its splatter on his side...
BlairForce 1 betcha his phone changed it from spatter to splatter, cause that’s what mine did.
Many a good crystal were ruined by the inevitable “I’m just hitting it for a second, who needs leathers?”
juan gonzalez I got 3 kids outta that attitude
Thanks for never changing. One of only a handful of RUclipsrs left who hasn’t completely changed his content and delivery due to success and changes in RUclips’s policies and algorithms.
Thank you for being real, for being the content creator I love to learn from.
Keep up the amazing work as always and just be you. We love you just as you are, don’t change.
Haha according to sources AvE has 0 subscribers and should not be viewed by anyone. Kinda like British Columbia, the place is a complete and utter shit hole that no one should ever visit.
So true my man
T 25, great big bouncy tits! Well those ell always get a lick out me partna’ ;)
@captainzero I love his content just as much as the next guy and probably You. But the fact of the matter is that even AvE WILL change over time. That's just how things go - nobody does the same thing forever. People grow, learn new things and with that change their habits and preferences.
@@T25de : When you put it that way ...
I like how Hilti doesn't even mark the tool as brush-less. Basically saying, It's a Hilti you don't need to worry about it.
Like a Rolls.
For real, these Liechtensteiners don't mess around
@@m4554k3r 😁Yes. On a Rolls in the papers under "Horsepower" it says "sufficient"....
Snap On be like virtue signaling that their tools are 100% made in the USA
Why bother having stickers saying what it doesn't have. My tools are all gluten free. I put stickers on them saying so.
" I may not be much of a welder, but I'm a hell of a grinder !" - AvE.
Never a dull moment when it comes to AvE vocabulary and descriptions ! 😜😄
Grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't.
You've never heard that one before? 😀 We usually rib Homegamers with the classic "A Grinder and Paint for the Welder you ain't." 😝
My old weld instructor always said that a grinder and black flat spray paint makes the welder you aint!
"I'm a hell of a grinder." I didn't know you used dating apps.
A "friend" sure
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind "friend"
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind Scruff > Grindr
@@InsideOfMyOwnMind Actually, yes. I haven't gotten around to installing any of those apps on my own phone.
I work for these guys. The detached pinion is indeed a design choice. One of the big selling points of these grinders is the "active torque control", basically a safety feature that shuts it off should it bind on something. They work for a bit after they do bind but the thing eventually strips.
Fun fact: Hilti is headquartered in Lichtenstein, the only major company in one of the smallest "countries" of Europe with not more than 40.000 people.
Damn, I read the title as "Hilti COFFEE Grinder". I got so excited for a second.
All my jobs only require 2 beers. The first and the last those ones in the middle don’t count.
You got your planning beer and your celebration beer. Work beers are a separate budget.
In Australia we have 6 practice beers before we actually start the real drinking 😆
I usually base a job on the number of beers it'll take to get it done.
The important part is that they were proper Molson pils
When you're workin one-handed in the dark that soft start is so helpful, stops you giving yesself a premature nose job
Lol
yeap i use the corded hilti grinder and for that one better be ready for the kick as soon as you press
You can’t beat a Hilti. The old man bought a TE-17 rotary hammer drill back in the late 70s maybe 1980, and that thing has shifted more masonry than Chinese Great Wall worker. Still works. I do remember going without Christmas presents one year, this was probably the cause.
We went through two Milwaukee cordless grinders 4 1/2 inch in one year. Used them every day at full capacity ( misc metals trade). Bearing went on one and the other seized solid. We then bought the Hilti grinder same capacity and it's going on nearly three years now and we beat it up every day as well. Loved your video, was surprised to see how well built the Hilti grinder is.
"It's bigger when you get it into your hand" lol...I'll have to remember that one.
Name it "Tardis" - then tell her it's so much bigger on the inside. :-)
“A Grinder and paint, makes me the welder I ain’t!” And my own... “Do your best and caulk the rest”
@@cm01 Angry boy
The soft start is an EU directive to improve worker ergonomics. 8 hours of stopping and starting it makes a big difference for us not so strong in the wrists.
@@asbestosfibers1325 dude you're having a stroke
It's the soy
Get a new job then you weak wrist having bastard lol
Wow..
Fuckin waman’s not used the the good ol’ back and forth wrist trainin’
"Doing some grindin' and paintin'...y'know...typical welder stuff."
Good to know I've been doing it right all these years.
"A grinder and paint/ makes me the welder I ain't"
That front shaft arrangement being hollow and the motor shaft going so far up in is because the one bearing there is not just the pinion bearing, but also the front motor bearing. She’s pulling double duty on ya.
Oh, and that rubber o-ring is traveling at the same rpm as both the shafts, being that they are locked together till they destructively decide to not turn in unison.
JackANSI the concern is in the heat transfer from the friction at the dingus tip down the shaft, breaking the rubber and releasing the schmoo that can cost a man more than his daily Timmies.
I got that same grinder, a hammer drill and driver plus 3 batteries and a charger - $100 out of the local pawn shop because the lowest price on their sticker for everything was $200. It was on a "closeout" table with a "up to 50% off" sign on it and a yellow closeout sticker on the price tag.
When the store manager confirmed the $100 price, I had to hold back the love explosion facial expression and just quickly ran to the register to swipe my card.
You.....got one hell of a deal!
When I checked the tags, it was in the system over 2 years. She comes out with all 3 batteries, puts them all into the tools and they fire right up. All the batteries held a charge over 2 years.
I bought them a year maybe 18 months ago and over that timespan, have charged all 3 batteries each only one time.
They were used pretty hard but they're fine, mostly cosmetic wear on it. I use the angle grinder pretty regularly for light stuff but have never fed it anything to get it hot.
I've ran the hammer drill in some concrete once with the wrong bit and it was fine even though it got warm enough to the point of being concerned so we just let it cool off. I think that was the one battery drainer.
So...I need some lotto numbers to play on Wednesday...whatcha got?
Bravo! I spend a lot of time at pawn shops looking for just such occasions. But hearing that you got yours brings a smile, though I can't tell you why.
at that kinda price, i'd be wondering where they'd been stolen from..
I'd be happy to take that grinder for a spin! I work in a mattress store, so my employer probably won't be happy about it...
Man, a cordless grinder is one of my favorite tools. Like you said it will never replace a corded jobby, but you can walk out to the parking lot and do some actual REAL work. Even some of the nicest battery powered ones only give maybe an hour of hard work, but an hour of hard work on an angle grinder is a LOT of work.
It would be so fun to run around NYC stealing bikes with that thing.
Many do! Though, if they are using a hilti, odds are they stole that too...
Bike people.
Louis!
BUT CAN YOU FIX AN APPLE PRODUCT WITH THE GRINDER FOR LIFE.
@Vyacheslav government
Loved the Neil Young reference. "A kinder, gentler machine gun hand" Definitely a maple leafer...
Excellent. Hilti tools are now in my sights as something to consider. Thanks for all the information and the humor, AvE. You rock, as always.
Soft start also helps reduce shock loading to the discs, helps reduce the old OSHA vidjo look
Helps for the genius who starts the tool while touching the work piece.
Jason this sounds like total BS.
Farmer's nut rounder, called an agricultural lathe over here.
I’ve heard it called an all-16ths wrench
Left handed nut lathe
@@PlatypusVomit absolutely
@@ryanlukens9280 and a blowtorch is a true universal wrench
We call it a ‘Staffordshire Fits-All’
Love your plan to let a craftsman work the tool! I worked in commercial steel stud and drywall for a while and know the Hilti quality is best by far!
When debating on either makita or dewalt, and after watching some of your videos. I went with makita. You have the best teardown vids I've found on das interwebs. Keep it up.
I work for a company where we use three of those angle grinders almost daily, they're heave duty stuff, we even cut concrete with those, been working flawlessly for the past 3 years. No broken parts yet, even that locking tab you said would most likely break are still intact.
As a dirty dead tree carcass sculptor with some Festool products, the dust collection is second to none. And while I can’t speak to the skookumness I have been happy and dust collection is a priority.
I'll pass that around the chain gang like that picture of Johnny's wife, keep it real warm with all the work we're seeing lately.
Had that grinder for bout 4 years. Still working. Upgraded to the new one with the big battery. Bad ass. Get the tool- les collet thing. Love it.
I'm old and crusty. I don't really understand this youtube comment stuff. I simply wish to say thank you for making this type of content accessible to us simpletons.
"Like ya do yer reyint." AvE, that was some dang convincing Murican.
I'd like to try that out but I'm in the uk, and that's a left hand drive. Not impossible but makes overtaking tricky. Keep up the great work big man.
Looks like the handle is reversible.
Another vote for posting it over the pond to team splendid
I love that he added the bit about the Hilti company rep showing up in a "red shirt and a pony tail" because that has been my entire experience in 15 years with Hilti. I'm not saying it is a bad thing, but it is THE commercial sales 'model'.
I use a Bosch 18V-60C cordless drill everyday at work and I love the thing! I smile everytime i look at it.
As an autistic viewer I appreciate the hell out of you lowering the volume when grinding/cutting and so on
as a viewer, I too appreciate it.
@@pi3ize rfcfuccu
@@coopercooper58 what
@@pi3ize my phone full glitched out 🤣
@@coopercooper58 lol I thought I was behind on the hip acronyms or something
The slow start probably helps with that key thing
Makes the edges stay sharp and not roll over as quickly
This guy is has an awesome sense of humor and is very knowledgeable. Not a combination always easy to come by.
I have a HILTI DCG125-S corded grinder and it’s a freaking beast!
It starts off slow like that but also has a feature they call “smart power” where the grinder automatically increases power if it starts bogging down.
"Theres no accounting for some filthy wood elves taste" 😂😂
1:26 Filthy wood elf? That's me!
I'm a vintage wormdrive Skilsaw man, myself.
after 30 years it still shows up to work everyday despite knowing it'll probably get a hot lunch. ;-)
That snap action is one of your best forays into the scritchy world of ASMR. I'd pay for that content.
Hello, your videos have been a great help for me lately, thanks for all your work!
Yeh! 22 is 2 more than 18. 😂
It's just one more.
I think he meant 1 more cell on each row, the first and last part of that sentence never left his brain
Theres no 22v things. Theres 18 20 24
Bubba he’s using imperial counting :-)
Canadian maths
Before Home Depot switched to Hilti, they were/are still carrying Bosch and Makita for the rentals. All my cordless are Bosch, other than a couple niche tools from Milfukie.
Didn't expect the slow start disapproval, just got done with the Kitchen Aid vid where you learned us to love the warm up.
I have had a week long borrow of one of those grinders, absolutely fantastic machine, I don't want to give it back.
Take apart the festool domino tool and tell us why it’s like $1500!
@@piciu256 very few wood pixies like fesstool but the one's that do shout and scream about it.
@@piciu256 why do woodworkers need precise? it's wood. it grows and shrinks more than the kerf of any cut throughout the year
Hmmm, I was looking at getting the Festool T 18 Drill Driver, but not a good idea? I have a Hilti impact wrench, but don't really need the 22v drill and separate driver.
@@SuperAWaC because if the angles aren't precise it looks like it was made by a kindergarten class. It can shrink and expand all it wants as it will do it together.
@@jaydunbar7538 but it's wood. you work in tape measure dimensions
Hay Ave. I could put that tool though he'll and back for you. I work in heavy industry at a maching shop thats over 110 + years old that does all the repairs for all of the coal mines in the northern part of the States. We even do repair field jobs for over 6 large coal mines in Canada. We got guys that weld the heavy chain links that connects the big coal buckets on the dragline. Repairing where they wear. We go throw grinders like there is no tomorrow. We now are testing some of the newer brushless 110ac drills that are out there. I've seen guys push grinders so hard that there is more smoke coming out of the grinder than the smoke that comes off from stick welding. We got big welders pushing 1300 Amps burning 1/8wire putting on 1000's of pounds of steel on sheaves for the dragline. Its pretty impressive. Be glad to put some work that there tool of yours.
Ornamental iron worker here, down in new Orleans heat , that heat sink get would some proper testing, those 22 volts of chooch would come pretty handy installing a handrails on a third floor balcony!! Spanks for the chuckles!
Had my hilti cordless grinder for 3 years now, use it all the time in the Millwright industry and the only trouble it’s givin me is the tabs that hold the paddle trigger in at the bottom broke and now the trigger pops out. Still works the trigger just falls out. Love the hilti cordless tools.
"In heavy industry, the surefire way to let the smoke out of an electric motor is to over grease it..."
Unless it's a steel mill, in which case you pack everything as right full of calcium sulphonate grease as she'll suffer to purge (and keep out) the water and scale...
I do the tool crib creeps a favor by dipping them in the pickleline before returning...
In heavy diesel, you keep greasing till only clean grease comes back out. Why? Because odds are it was supposed to have been serviced 3 times since the last service.
Same name lol
Since I started working where I work now, doing maintenance on a few different machines, and no one has been there before me to do this stuff, I just greased until the grease was falling out. There was no dirty grease in there, each machine took its own grease cartridge. Now, that I'm doing it regularly, the job is quick and easy. I think grease ever 10 hours meant grease once a year before I got there.
@@john.t645 lol did you have to use the "." because it wouldn't let you use just "John T" when you created your profile?
Ave I’m a pipeliner (welder) in West Texas and I’ll have my dull beaver feed that thing a hot supper. He can break anything.
Do they actually have steel lines in West Texas? Last time I was there, there were a hundred plasti-steel composite pipelines by the hundreds running on the surface everywhere.
I work building residential and commercial pools..... between grinding steel, concrete and woods. We would sure give her a good testing!!!
Either way, thanks for giving me someone to enjoy watching on RUclips and keep the great content coming!!
Oh sweet, that beer you had is the only type I’ve tried that I’ve been able to care about so far; everything else I have to wait a year between cans so I forget whether I tried it yet
Awesome video. 👍
I've been using my Hilti cordless tool's in the industrial sense for around 6 years now and I must say they are second to none, and I've used them all.
I did manage to finally break the upper casing on my grinder thow- I guess they should have given instructions on how to throw it at the boss man with a bit more finesse.😡
“It’s been value enginerded into complete chintzyness” love it
I have OCD when it comes to my electrical componentry! 😂😂😂 i have to have my resisters, caps, leds, diodes and chips all perfectly sorted Etc! Lmao I have an O.C.A. obssesive compulsive addiction to componentry! Collecting, scrapping, building, Ect! I have since childhood! My favourite snack is bits and bites! Chips! Cap n crunch serial! I took all day friday to inventory on my thinkpad all my components! Lmao! Labour of love! I love all you,re videos! I learn alot from them to! So thank you AvE! 😎👍🏻👍🏻
High-dollar research, and right out of the pocket. That's why BOLTR is the only comprehensive review source. There's only one guy in one place on the planet who will check it out and show you what you need to know.
I had the whole set but someone else liked it more then i did
I use the Kobalt 24V stuff professionally. Not only does it chooch flawlessly but nobody gives them a second look. Inb4 shill ok cool show me the tools you use that aren't branded
AvE's bed time stories help me sleep
We got this grinder with the te 4 22a for work two years ago (electricians).
Very dirty enviroment (iron formery, lots of Metal and quarz dust) and manages it like a charm. No problem with the gear locker
So glad you are fighting the good "beg the question" fight. We are few but we are (a little too) proud.
I'm curious how well this would last in our waterjet shop.. We've been using "team red" for some time now, and it looks like 2yrs is about all they'll suffer in our hydraulic fluid and garnet filled shop.
One of our fab guys is excellent with a grinder, the other doesn't wear any eye protection when he welds.. so figure before long we'll have a 2nd guy pretty handy with a grinder once he's gone blind and can't aim the metal hotsnot gun worth a diddly.
On behalf of the wood elf community, I believe I could give this a proper hot supper and dust ingress test by way of tree carcass carving.
Hey now.
I believe he asked for someone that would give her all she could suffer, not for someone to energize chisels and whatnot with her.
Savage!
He wants a carving of a bear that way he doesn't have to keep going out to find them.
@@Nicmadis lol I guess chainsaw wheels do have the chisel bits.
@Kurt f Niessl But metal filings are both abrasive _and_ conductive. More bang for your buck - and after it goes bang, more smoke for your kopek, too. :-D
Love this video.... can't wait for you to review their new line of product.
Good to know that there is engineering out there that's still well done. Price point will be different, but a good starting point.
Also: why not start a 2nd channel "BOLTR 2 : Tales from the healing bench". I'm sure it will be demonetized because of some cursing, but might be a blast for the admirers of the long-form video!
I'll gladly put it though its Paces. I Use grinders daily pretty hard in an industrial weld-fab shop.
billy morrish I used to do drainage and drain tile and used cordless grinders to cut pipe and hack cement foundations so the jackhammer can get bite at 90 degrees. I guarantee that is by far the worst abuse one of these things can take. My tool of choice used to be Makita 5” angle grinders and I would burn through three or four tools per year. I switched to Milwaukee and it took me two years to kill my first. These Hilti grinders didn’t exist at the time so I couldn’t say if this pig would last. (Mud, water, concrete dust and PVC shards are brutal, although metal dust is also savage.)
Oh, whoa... Everyone stop looking... This guys used a grinder before...
flippo2388 ummmm, what?
Ave, I love your work! I remove and install ATM's for a living. On an average uninstall 4- 1" Hilti anchors have to be cut and that really tests a grinders stamina. I'd enjoy testing it for you! Thanks. BK
Hey brotha, gotta say, been watching u for a while, got my own right proper empire of dirt. I'm a welder/iron worker in seattle. Even worked on the job that had the tower crane collapse. If u really want to test the fortitude of that hilti, I'd be more than happy to take on that burden. I even showed my 19 yr old kid ur video on goals. Keep up to good work my friend,. U put out so many public service videos u should be sponsored by PBS, if'n u know what that is up in Canadia.
You can tell by looking at my name I'm not much of a welder myself, I've put many a hard hrs on a grinder or three. Also a bit of a scumbag if I do say so myself.
You do know what hes talking about when he says that dont you? And im almost positive nobody that watches these videos actually knows what hes getting at when he says that lol. But you notice he never took that thing out of a box lol and theres quite a few tools that he does not indeed take out of the box...
11:35 Two big *Japanese, low-ESR* capacitors, that is... Double-skookum right there!
They are flux capacitors.
I'm using hilti tools provided by the company I work for and they are good to the last juice drop, very heavy and you start feeling it as the day goes... Very well built for sure
My Tap chart T shart arrived this morning! Cheered me right up! Fanks Uncle B
Good feature aligning the cutting wheel and the trigger finger together
Young welder neighbor just told me that the newest DeWalt grinders have a delayed start. Burning them out left and right in the pipelines.
Soft starts never last, unfortunately a lot of grinders come with it as standard now.
Vance Graham I believe only the 60 Volt grinders do. I think the 20s still start like normal.
@Dave Micolichek Exactly! Especially when you have a gas driven power source right there.
@Dave Micolichek if you only grind a weld every 4 hours and the battery can handle at least 2 welds... That'll get u through a workday. Need more? Buy a second battery.
Until you burn up /cut/drop stuff on/trip over and hurt yourself on cords in really crappy footing areas. I don't like cordless grinders, but... They have advantages at times
Howdy AvE. I work as a welder/fitter in a shop making rail cars. Currently we use Makita rat-tails of the 4.5 and 7" varieties. it's a pain in the ass to have to run extension cords up down and around all day to sand,grind, cut, and wire-wheel. I'd love to give that there Hilti a hot supper if you wanna really see what she can do!!
I worked with a lot with hilti batterie hammerdrills.
We had a big installation job (elektric ) where we can't get a cord to the place.
So one of the trainees loaded up all the chargers with batterys and brought us the fresh ones, (And we had a lot of them.)
We worked the hole day long, somthing like 10-15 batterys and head no issues.
Nice tools these hiltis! But u have to keep the batterys coming.
The timing will be fine, to reverse a 3-phase motor, you must swap any two wires, when you do a 120 or 240 degree rotation you are effectively doing 2 or 4 swaps, which will cancel out, and result in the motor going the same direction anyway (any even number of swaps will cancel out).
Thanks for the video, now i just need an excuse to buy this tool.
JuanJulio Jamirez wow, you’re not creepy at all.
18 + 2 = 22.. It's just science!
freedom units probably
20 is full pumped 18, so 22 really is just 2 more, so it has actually 20. But pumped to 22
I'm a welder/fab apprentice at a structural steel shop. I've been eyeballing these cordless grinders for hole and edge deburring. It would save me time looking for an extension cord when I go to different spots in the shop or in the yard.
I like that it cranks up slow
It prevents you from rushing and slicing your hand off
Send it to me Ave, i work above the arctic circle here in Alaska, it wont last too long here i'm sure
Standard unit of measure for time in the empire of dirt: beers
My favorite cordless grinder is the Metabo low profile. Expensive, but 4 years of use going on the original batteries and a 5 year battery warranty. It does the soft start as well
The adjectives this man uses are the best
"I'll just squint".
It was at this point a fine pilsner exited my nasal cavity at high velocity...
“I’ll just squint” 😂
I’m the heavy equipment and fleet mechanic for a concrete block company and I’ve been looking to get a new Makita grinder for work. Unless the yellow default I got is supposed to sound like a car crash while hitting the kachunk kachunck
Being a fleet mechanic is the bees knees. Getting paid by the hour instead of by the job, and overtime to boot!
Collin Dow that’s the truth, I got so sick of flat rate. For years I was the main diagnostic tech and it was always a hassle getting my hours billed properly. Now I get to work at my own pace (and do quality work), no service manager (just me), got a huge shop to myself, and work overtime anytime I want / need it.
Trouble is you've got me hooked now I've bought a band saw and drill press this year and had them both apart . While I was in there swapped out the wiring and switch on both regards Dave from Wales
This is why I am going getting my self a hilti angle grinder this week. Payday has arrived
"11 herbs and spices" 😂😂😂
Remember the good old days when hilti meant shooting nails into concrete and nothing else....
How old were those good old days? Because back in the 70s or before I'm pretty sure Hilti meant rotary hammer and nothing else
First Hilti I ever bought was a nail shooter. Used it in concrete and tarmac for cable ramps at events. Same store also had lots of other Hilti things, drills, rotary hammers, dust collection systems, etc etc. Just how fart back are you thinking? My thing was 1992.
Powder actuated fastening was amazing
Thanks for this review. I’m well invested in the Hilti cordless line and have just purchased this grinder. Hilti’s magic pixie repair centre in Mtl is first rate.
I cannot get over your mad vocabulary and command of the canadianish language 👌 absolute legend 😂
As pointed out by "first" Mr19ford93 no unboxing. You must be your running a skeleton production crew, they were cutting into the beer fund.
math is difficult. "these are 22 volts, which is far far better than the 18 volts of a typical tool. it's just 2 better which is science"
20 is fully pumped 18, so 22 really is just 2 more, so it has actually 20. But pumped to 22
Sure would like to get my grubby mitts on that. Unfortunately, I don't do enough of the kind of work which requires a tool in that category. My corded Makita has 20 years on it and only has been complaining. Enough to pick up the yellow and black plague version. Rebar is still required in foundations, even in this day and age.
Anyway, another excellent video.
Thanks for sharing!
7:20 Im pretty sure they have a fairly tight interference fit to secure that bearing. I also wouldn't be surprised if they put some sleeve locking compound on it. I took apart a small Eaton roots style blower for a rebuild that used that style of roller bearing to support the scroll shafts and even with the correct tool I could not extract them for the life of me.