Thanks for another great video, much appreciated. I just bought the Quinn at HF and really like it, feels well-made and is easy to read and set. If I need to go into the upper torque ranges on this I'll just chuck the bit into my ¼" drive electronic torque wrench, as it scales down to about 12 inch lbs.
Thanks for doing this test! I have a wheeler and the instructions say to put the top of the line at the number you want then if you call the company they say to use the middle of the line lol. The instructions do suck with it but it is.
Thank you! Those clips add so much value to RUclips, that it shows (again) how much the number of views and subscribers is utterly irrelevant in real life...
Thank you for video, was looking at 3 of these and this helped a lot. I always thought the digital would be best but after hearing the buzzing ill stick with the click style like my automotive wrench.
The basic Wheeler is currently the number 1 selling torque driver on Amazon - made it my choice just on that fact, now I see your video showing it to be the most consistent for the price range - I hope it suits me well in the long range the same.
@@garoristic This is from the product description bulletin on amazon. "INCLUDES: 10 bits (hex to square adapter, #10 flat blade, #32 flat blade, #11 flat blade, 5/32 hex, 7/64 hex, 3/32 hex, T20 torx, T15 torx and Leupold specialty flat blade), ¼” socket and a convenient plastic storage case" I think the answer is no, but there's no reason you couldnt buy the bit separately and use it - assuming its the right diameter to fit into the device.
Excellent content as always!! Would love to see comparison with the Sloky torque sticks (also sold by Fix-It-Sticks and a few other brands). Thanks as always!!!
Saw a short video from someone who wrote Wheeler about how to align the scale. They told him to use the center of the red line, though it appears you found bottom of red line worked best. Have to question why they made the red line so thick. Now I want to find a local calibration test facility.
FYI THE BLACK & GOLD DIGITAL WHEELER IS 5-100ft lbs, BLACK & YELLOW DIGITAL IS 15-100ft lbs…… I just thought I should point that out because sometimes people think it’s just the colors!
I would love to see something like this that could go down to maybe 5 in. lbs. Front sights on handgun and many of the red dot sights require 7-9 in. lbs., requiring the user to "guess".
The wheeler digital has two modes. Live and Peak. I think you should have used Peak to replicate the mechanical torque as it's a single beep at the specified setting
Great stuff, thanks again for your videos! I would like to see the more expensive torque screwdrivers tested. I can attest to torque screwdrivers not being very accurate, I had a Neiko that stripped out alot of screws. I threw that one out and got a Capri Tools which hasn't stripped any threads yet. I actually tested both screwdrivers by having them turn a beam style torque wrench. It was easy to see the Neiko was over torqing at the high end of its scale. The Capri Tools seemed to be slightly under torqing throughout its range but wasn't too bad. No matter what you decide to film I'm here to watch it!
No problem, I’m definitely planning on testing the Capri and probably a Neilo. Thanks for the info, it will be interesting to see if I get the same results.
That looks like some quite strange grip ergonomics on those screwdrivers. All my VDE torque screwdrivers are a standard screwdriver shaped handle. Can be a little tough to use at the higher ranges, but I don't go up to them very often 3.5 Nm is about as high I usually go with them.
Interesting, I thought the digital Wheeler would be extra accurate which I suppose it is. But not clicking when you reach your desired torque, I can see as maybe being kind of annoying.
When you say you cycled 1000 times, can you explain exactly how you accomplished that? It would take days to complete 4000 cycles by hand. Did you use some type of automatic device?
would you rather get the Quinn for $52 or the wheeler for $60? The Quinn has lifetime HarborF warranty which is nice. I will do 10-15 but sometimes around 45. hard to decide between the 2 because of ease of the quinn warranty if i never need it.
It's really hard to say, I would also have to consider the Real Avid toque screwdriver. But I do agree the warranty on the Quinn and the ability to take it right back to the store is something to consider and the Quinn is easier to read.
It's hilarious that the digital one goes up to 100. What are you going to be using a screwdriver on that needs 100 inch-pounds and is secure enough that you can lean into it like that without being afraid of jamming the screwdriver right through whatever you're working on?
I just got a rebranded SanLiang one. I thought I had good grip strength. I am happy to use the smallest Knipex pliers wrench. Above 50 in-lb I just can’t squeeze it tightly enough to turn it. I don’t understand why you’d make something with that much torque that you have to squeeze like that.
8:50 ----> I have the one with the red tip on it and it has the white line with the red strip in the middle and the instructions are also garbage and dont say where the 10 or 20 or 30 inch lb would be ... Do you set the middle of the red line on the # or what ?? Is it the top of the red line or bottom of red line to set the #
I set it middle of the the red line and the values came in under the desired torque. Personally I would probably aim for setting it at the bottom of the red line.
I haven't accuracy tested that low yet. I would probably use CDI, thats one of the few brands I feel confidant in without testing them. Seeing CDI is owned by Snap-on. I found a 5-30 on Amazon amzn.to/3Kh08aI.
That CDI is a nice looking unit. Out priced for my purpose. Your reviews have been very interesting as the failure is high in my mind after a 1000 cyclings. That's a good effort. On the Wheeler I saw you set it on the bottom of the line for 10inch lbs, did you work out where the line is supposed to be as its could make a difference? Thanks
Good testing, and summary eval. But that table is hard to read since the column headers and data are not consistently justified the same way. If you used Excel, look up "center justified"... or "left justified".
Yeah sorry noticed that after I published it, I don’t know why the justification changed, it’s the same table I have used in the past. But probably a Apple thing seeing it was made in Keynote.
Quick question about the mech wheeler. I bought one based on your video. Once I reach the set torque I can feel it slip quite a bit before it clicks. Does that seem right?
It seems like NO ONE really knows how to use the red line on the Wheeler! They say it's either the "top of the red line indicates the number" OR the "bottom of the red line indicates the number" lol! So which is it???
@@Tools-Tested the one I’m looking at is a digital version, idk if they’re better or worse 😊, $193. I’m working on a computer part and it needs to be anywhere in the range of 0.03-0.06n-M. The part does have witness marks and instructions to tighten if you don’t have a torque screwdriver, but I’d rather be precise if I can 😊
Wheeler mechanical- used 1 time put up for about a year in case and climate controlled. When used again I couldn't get to go past 40 in lbs. When backing off, something broken and is now useless. Won't buy again
I’m not sure how this title can be “best” when these are all low end or cheap-o. You’re testing looks great, but too bad you didn’t include a great product like Wiha or Wera. Can’t be a great hand tool test of any kind without any German engineered tools.
I like the extra effort you put in by doing thousands of cycles. It gives a better idea for long-term use over time. 🐺🔧
Yep it definitely showed in this case with the SanLaing, out of the box it looked decent until after 1000 cycles
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Thank him after 10k cycles. ..😘😘
Glad to see quinn and wheeler holding up after testing on the 25 and below.
Thanks for another great video, much appreciated.
I just bought the Quinn at HF and really like it, feels well-made and is easy to read and set. If I need to go into the upper torque ranges on this I'll just chuck the bit into my ¼" drive electronic torque wrench, as it scales down to about 12 inch lbs.
Thanks! Yeah the Quinn is good quality for the $.
Nice to have a review that actually checks for accuracy.
No problem! Yeah I'm more about testing to get a real idea.
Thanks for the review! I have the click style Wheeler and I wasn't sure exactly where to put the line. thanks to your video, now I know.
No problem, yeah those instructions suck!
now you know ..?? He made an assumption on where it should be set
Bought a wheeler mechanical, certificate with it. Was very close . And economical..
I have the Wheeler mechanical and will be getting the Quinn.
I just bought the Quinn today, I’m glad I didn’t waste my money
The Quinn is just as good as all the rest really. All are made in China or Taiwan. I’ve had the Quinn for awhile and it get the job done 👍🏻
Thanks for doing this test! I have a wheeler and the instructions say to put the top of the line at the number you want then if you call the company they say to use the middle of the line lol. The instructions do suck with it but it is.
No problem, yeah I like the wheeler but the instructions suck. I prefer the the Real Avid because it has single number indication.
First time watching your video. Definitely one of the most useful channels on RUclips. Thank you for your work.
Thanks! I’m glad you are finding them helpful!
Thank you! Those clips add so much value to RUclips, that it shows (again) how much the number of views and subscribers is utterly irrelevant in real life...
No problem! Glad it was helpful! Yeah funny how that works.
thanks for doing the hard part for us, liked and subscribed!
No problem! Thanks for the sub!
Excellent test. I've been using a CDI Torquing screwdriver for some years now.
Thank you! I hope to test the CDI at some point.
Thank you for video, was looking at 3 of these and this helped a lot. I always thought the digital would be best but after hearing the buzzing ill stick with the click style like my automotive wrench.
No problem! Glad to hear it was helpful, yeah mechanical is the way to go in my book.
my leupold mark 4 steel rings spec @ 65# for the keeper .
thanks for increasing my confidence in my mechanical FAT wrench .
No problem! Glad it helped.
Thanks was about to buy one of these now I know which one to go with
No problem! Glad to hear it helped.
Awesome review, very helpful--thank you! Subscribed!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the sub!
The basic Wheeler is currently the number 1 selling torque driver on Amazon - made it my choice just on that fact, now I see your video showing it to be the most consistent for the price range - I hope it suits me well in the long range the same.
Yeah I expect it will, seems good quality and held accuracy after 1000 cycles.
Did it come with a t-10 torx bit
@@garoristic This is from the product description bulletin on amazon.
"INCLUDES: 10 bits (hex to square adapter, #10 flat blade, #32 flat blade, #11 flat blade, 5/32 hex, 7/64 hex, 3/32 hex, T20 torx, T15 torx and Leupold specialty flat blade), ¼” socket and a convenient plastic storage case"
I think the answer is no, but there's no reason you couldnt buy the bit separately and use it - assuming its the right diameter to fit into the device.
The wheeler does not. I had to go buy a t-10 for my sig romeo 5. :)
strange you don't have a t10 around. its usually the larger ones that don't come with other too kit. like action screws are t30 or t35
Great video I’d love to see some more brands tested such as cdi, wera, wiha, capri, and fix it sticks
Thanks! hope too, probably be next month though. I still need to order them.
Excellent content as always!! Would love to see comparison with the Sloky torque sticks (also sold by Fix-It-Sticks and a few other brands).
Thanks as always!!!
Thanks!
I will add that to the list.
👍 Yes, please
Saw a short video from someone who wrote Wheeler about how to align the scale. They told him to use the center of the red line, though it appears you found bottom of red line worked best. Have to question why they made the red line so thick. Now I want to find a local calibration test facility.
FYI THE BLACK & GOLD DIGITAL WHEELER IS 5-100ft lbs, BLACK & YELLOW DIGITAL IS 15-100ft lbs…… I just thought I should point that out because sometimes people think it’s just the colors!
Thanks for the info!
Always good information, thanks for your time
No problem! Glad it was helpful!
Yes I was gunna comment hot dog you are definitely a good review guy. The dedication is nice to see
Thanks!
I would love to see something like this that could go down to maybe 5 in. lbs. Front sights on handgun and many of the red dot sights require 7-9 in. lbs., requiring the user to "guess".
Hope to at some point, my testers range goes down to 1.25 In Lbs.
I just count the clicks from 15 to 18 inch pounds then hope it’s at 18 but my fat wrench works great I’m glad I got the manual model
The wheeler digital has two modes. Live and Peak. I think you should have used Peak to replicate the mechanical torque as it's a single beep at the specified setting
Awesome video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it! No problem!
Great stuff, thanks again for your videos! I would like to see the more expensive torque screwdrivers tested. I can attest to torque screwdrivers not being very accurate, I had a Neiko that stripped out alot of screws. I threw that one out and got a Capri Tools which hasn't stripped any threads yet. I actually tested both screwdrivers by having them turn a beam style torque wrench. It was easy to see the Neiko was over torqing at the high end of its scale. The Capri Tools seemed to be slightly under torqing throughout its range but wasn't too bad. No matter what you decide to film I'm here to watch it!
No problem, I’m definitely planning on testing the Capri and probably a Neilo.
Thanks for the info, it will be interesting to see if I get the same results.
That looks like some quite strange grip ergonomics on those screwdrivers. All my VDE torque screwdrivers are a standard screwdriver shaped handle. Can be a little tough to use at the higher ranges, but I don't go up to them very often 3.5 Nm is about as high I usually go with them.
Yeah the grips are kinda weird, I really wish they had a spot for a T handle.
Have you ever tried the Vortex Optics Torque Wrench? a bit more expensive than these but had decent reviews.
I haven’t yet, it’s on the list but probably a few months out before I do.
Just got the quin needed to replace a T30 Hex bit they never sell just the one
Interesting, I thought the digital Wheeler would be extra accurate which I suppose it is. But not clicking when you reach your desired torque, I can see as maybe being kind of annoying.
Yep it is if* you can keep a steady hand on it.
I have the wheeler and it stiffened up recently. I think it may be because I might not have reduced the torque to store it.
Yeah you might let it sit untensioned for a while.
When you say you cycled 1000 times, can you explain exactly how you accomplished that? It would take days to complete 4000 cycles by hand. Did you use some type of automatic device?
would you rather get the Quinn for $52 or the wheeler for $60? The Quinn has lifetime HarborF warranty which is nice. I will do 10-15 but sometimes around 45. hard to decide between the 2 because of ease of the quinn warranty if i never need it.
It's really hard to say, I would also have to consider the Real Avid toque screwdriver. But I do agree the warranty on the Quinn and the ability to take it right back to the store is something to consider and the Quinn is easier to read.
@@Tools-TestedI just bought the quinn for 50. Hopefully it works out well. Having the warranty to take back to the store helped sway my decision.
Did the price go up on the Quinn? it’s now $80?
Do you also have to back town torque driver to minimum after use for storage ?
Thanks
Yes you do, always back to the min when storing.
No problem!
It's hilarious that the digital one goes up to 100. What are you going to be using a screwdriver on that needs 100 inch-pounds and is secure enough that you can lean into it like that without being afraid of jamming the screwdriver right through whatever you're working on?
Yeah its crazy I don't understand lol.
I just got a rebranded SanLiang one. I thought I had good grip strength. I am happy to use the smallest Knipex pliers wrench.
Above 50 in-lb I just can’t squeeze it tightly enough to turn it. I don’t understand why you’d make something with that much torque that you have to squeeze like that.
@@gf2e Nice!
Yeah it’s insane, I’m guessing they must have did it because the load cell could. You loose accuracy control bc my hand started to slip.
You may have gotten a Quinn that was messed up on the high end
Yeah its posible
Do you have a way to get in contact about reviewing a product or considering them for a video? I want to get in contact from Mountz Torque.
Any opinion(s) on the Borka Torque Driver?
I just had to look it up, interesting design.
8:50 ---->
I have the one with the red tip on it and it has the white line with the red strip in the middle and the instructions are also garbage and dont say where the 10 or 20 or 30 inch lb would be ...
Do you set the middle of the red line on the # or what ??
Is it the top of the red line or bottom of red line to set the #
I set it middle of the the red line and the values came in under the desired torque. Personally I would probably aim for setting it at the bottom of the red line.
Is there any torque wrench or driver you know of accurate for a torque spec that calls for 7 inch pounds (Toyota transmission oil filler tube)?
I haven't accuracy tested that low yet. I would probably use CDI, thats one of the few brands I feel confidant in without testing them.
Seeing CDI is owned by Snap-on.
I found a 5-30 on Amazon amzn.to/3Kh08aI.
That CDI is a nice looking unit. Out priced for my purpose.
Your reviews have been very interesting as the failure is high in my mind after a 1000 cyclings. That's a good effort.
On the Wheeler I saw you set it on the bottom of the line for 10inch lbs, did you work out where the line is supposed to be as its could make a difference?
Thanks
Good testing, and summary eval. But that table is hard to read since the column headers and data are not consistently justified the same way. If you used Excel, look up "center justified"... or "left justified".
Yeah sorry noticed that after I published it, I don’t know why the justification changed, it’s the same table I have used in the past. But probably a Apple thing seeing it was made in Keynote.
I didn't even know these were a thing.. now that i do.. makes me wonder if they have a cordless electric drive version of this?
I haven't seen an electric drive, but that would be cool.
Quick question about the mech wheeler. I bought one based on your video. Once I reach the set torque I can feel it slip quite a bit before it clicks. Does that seem right?
Yeah normally you can feel it move a bit before it clicks.
Does Sanliang screw bits fit my holosun optic , I feel like it’s to bulky and it work fit cause how lil space is in my optic
You will probably need longer bits, but I cat say 100% I don’t have a holosun.
Where is the wiha driver ?
Hopefully with the Wera in round 3.
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I was thinking about getting the Quinn.. but eh….
Yeah little bit out of range on the high end.
It seems like NO ONE really knows how to use the red line on the Wheeler! They say it's either the "top of the red line indicates the number" OR the "bottom of the red line indicates the number" lol! So which is it???
No it’s not very clear, I found it to be accurate if you use the bottom of the red line. Best option is to just buy the Real Avid IMO.
I need one that can go as low as 0.03nM. Which would you recommend?
Sadly I can’t think of any that low.
@@Tools-Tested Thanks for the reply. Google search pulls some up but they’re kind of expensive 👀.
@@haies09 no problem, yeah that low I can imagine they are $500 and up.
@@Tools-Tested the one I’m looking at is a digital version, idk if they’re better or worse 😊, $193. I’m working on a computer part and it needs to be anywhere in the range of 0.03-0.06n-M. The part does have witness marks and instructions to tighten if you don’t have a torque screwdriver, but I’d rather be precise if I can 😊
Wheeler mechanical- used 1 time put up for about a year in case and climate controlled. When used again I couldn't get to go past 40 in lbs. When backing off, something broken and is now useless. Won't buy again
I’m not sure how this title can be “best” when these are all low end or cheap-o. You’re testing looks great, but too bad you didn’t include a great product like Wiha or Wera. Can’t be a great hand tool test of any kind without any German engineered tools.
All these a trash. Get a Wera.
So on the digital it just has a bad grip but still accurate? Or stick with the mechanical. Looking for one for my 10/22. 🔩
I found the digital one hard to control, it is accurate but you will need good hand control. Personally I would go with a mechanical style.
@@Tools-Tested OK thanks. Surprised you went all the way to a 1000. That's really testing them. All you need is a white lab coat. Keep it up fella. 👍