Sex, relationships and the future | Julie Bindel, John Milbank and Olivia Fane
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Julie Bindel, John Milbank and Olivia Fane discuss sex, relationships and the future.
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In many cultures and in many times, women would not have sex with a man unless they were married to them. The world in the West is, for the great majority, a massively difference space but we still assume that sex and relationships go together. Yet the changing character of dating and the growth of hook up culture alongside studies that show sex declines in long term relationships suggest that we cannot not take the link for granted. Might we be headed towards a culture where relationships and sex are pursed independently?
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Writer and author of ‘Why Sex Doesn’t Matter' Olivia Fane, English Anglican theologian and Emeritus Professor at the University of Nottingham John Milbank and radical feminist writer, journalist and author Julie Bindel discuss the idea of separating sex and relationships. Barry Smith hosts.
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Heterosexual sex was not taboo in Greece, wtf.. by Plato and Aristotle it was upheld as natural, and homosexual sex as unnatural and to be resisted, it was definitely not upheld to be supreme love.
Milbank for the kill - as always
"Any inner life is so unsexy!" - speak for yourself!
Women should be granted whatever fantasy they desire
On the greeks, no? Did we read the same things?
Romantic relationships are dead, society tried and sell us the idea through music and media but it didn't work
"Why would anyone think love and sex are connected?” Oxytocin, for starters… But I guess sacrificing biological evidence to further social agendas is trendy these days.
I mean exercise and being in sunlight cause oxytocin levels to rise as well but we wouldn't consider that intrinsically tied to love. Oxytocin can also cause people to be more aggressive or get triggered to release in times for some forms of aggression which also doesn't feel exactly like love. If ppl want to have sex without being emotionally tied to the other person they should be allowed to as long as they consent and communicate as such.
@@ataraxia7439 Or just take care of it themselves. Make it sexy, remove any shame. As Woody Allen said about masturbation: "it's sex with someone I love". Or in the words of my first Regimental Sergeant Major, "99% of men masturbate, 1% lie about it."
When you know what romantic love is all about you would know that these people don't know what they're talking about!
@@ataraxia7439 The link between oxytocin and aggression is linked to my larger point; oxytocin primarily operates to bond people together; one of the potential downsides to tight bonding is potential hostility towards those you’re not bonded to. Oxytocin could more accurately be called “the in-group/out-group” chemical. It can be channeled into aggression towards outsiders. None of that eliminates my point and the research indicating that sex typically releases between people has the purpose of producing an emotional link between the people engaging in the act. Hence why love and sex have been seen as overlapping for most people for most of our existence as a species. Denying this comes close to denying that the oxytocin released in the mother immediately after giving birth doesn’t have the purpose of bonding the mother and child.
The dull, ordinariness of the marriage concept. Religion focused on equating the two. Intercourse was only legal, as were the children, when their God became involved. When we adapt and become more than satisfied with (mutual) masturbation: i.e. when we need a hit of concentrated Oxytocin we get it, job's done, normal service resumes. Penetrative sex is lovely, for a while, not always mutual, loaded with consequences, the 'transition to womanhood' for less able minds, the 'proof of manhood' for their natural partners. We might as well face it. Mother Nature was a blind and deaf mad experimenter and had no concept of the long game. _Expediency_ her only motto as she chased patent after patent.
OTOH love is a gift which can be spent anywhere (except on man-made c**p). To feel love, to be able to love is that feeling of wanting to be a part of making the object's experience of life better for your being there. It isn't automatic as any abuse during childhood (esp. in the pre-cognitive years) makes the ability to love more difficult. Humankind's perpetual frontier; how to raise lovely kids into fully-enabled adults.
no, it's a very simple answer: If love and sex are connected, then we would all have sex with our children, please educate yourself and learn how to think, for me this is a very very simple problem to solve. Btw: I think men have an easier time realizing that because most men get actually horny, a completely differnt thing, even THE OPPOSITE of loving, what I mean with opposite is: when I am horny I do not love, and when I love, I am not horny, those feelings are in each other ways, I can have a mix, but it's not a nice mix. A nice analogy made by Yosh the God is: love is sugar and sex is salt, and both together don't go along that well most of the time
Do you really not think there are different types of love ? I mean there is eros or romantic love which is very different from the love you maybe feel for your children or your family memebers..siblings etc or freinds even.
Strange that you seem so able to seperate love and sex...I guess that will make it dificult if you do ever fall in love and then you won't be able to have sex with the person.
@@upendasana7857you may not know if you are responding to a sane person!