Here's How Sony Made The PS3 Smaller
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- The PS3 went through several revisions since it released back in 2006, but the most drastic change came when Sony announced the PS3 Slim. This revision changed everything about the system inside moving to an entirely new layout and fabrication for the Cell Processor. Today we'll take a look inside the first generation Slim to see what they did to make it happen.
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Yes, I'd absolutely love to see a teardown of the super slim top loader
Yess please
Also yes please Super Slim!
No, I wouldn't.
Same I loved the super slim
Other people have already done that
The Slim was my first Sony Console - Got it for Uncharted 3. It's still got a prominent place in the entertainment unit.
Nice
That's cool
Neat choice. My first Sony console was also a PS3 Slim with a 120GB hard drive. Got it just in time for Uncharted 2. Had it for 6 years until I traded it for an OG PS4 console. Good times.
It was my last console.
Same
Still have my PS3 slim and play on it a lot! Specially without BC, the PS3 still is a great system to own. So many exclusives and great games.
Homebrew and mod scene on it has gotten really impressive, same for Vita.
You should be able to play ps1 games
You can get a lot of ps2 games to run on the slim and superslim with hen exploit. Granted it's not as good as the og ps3
Yep, please do PS3 super slim, wanna hear your take on that system.
Yes please do
It would be awesome if he compared all 3!!!
Cant do it
Can’t wait for “How they made the PS5 Smaller”
I'll get one PS5 when it has the XSX size (or less). Although the really nice size is the XSS.
I got the 1st slim, then the 2nd and final slim.
They better shrink it substantially in the future to justify the lack of a disc drive, since that won't need to be taking up space anymore.
Trust me it will get shrunken
Edit: I’m still going the PS3 and 4 approach: buying launch models first, then selling to get the slim improved version
@@valrond I'd rather it not look like the XSX. Classic console look appeals to me more, something that fits well and looks good horizontally under a TV.
I don care about the size of ps5 as long as it isn't a jet engine like the og ps4 and the ps4 pro
Spawnwave, I think you are the only RUclipsr that genuinely got me into video game hardware. Because of you I find taking apart Joy-cons and other console hardware really enjoyable.
Thank you.
He's very thorough with his tear downs too love these videos
I'm still impressed by technology 10+ years old.
Japanese technology
Me too still playing my ps3 console amd that vibe never make me down😇
I’m guessing someone said “hey let’s take that PS2 out of this PS3...” - Full disclosure I’m commenting before I watched the video 🤘
they did that within like a few months. by the time it released in Europe they jumped to a hybrid hardware-Software emulation, and long after that it was gone completely
Someone commented and yea they did, the difference on xbox 360 the try to hardare backward emulation project fusion to FU . Which is embarrass knowng there isn't a good xbox original emulator
@J.C. Denton PS3 slim can play PS1 games.
Well that was really mean of them to remove that
It was a conspiracy
The fact the ps3 had a logo change must drive ocd people crazy since the games have two different label styles.
yeah but they had to, that Spider-Man font was a terrible choice
LOL AS a kid i literally saw it as, they took that sht from spider'man
It does. Getting PS3 physical games on a shelf is hell, because you have the older PS3 labels, the new ones, and the greatest hits red label with both - and there's the platinum hits label as well, it's really annoying.
@@pedrosobral4335 Well uealol i know that was problematic
@@kevboard it was a perfect choice.
PS2 Slim:
Am I joke to you?!
Nice pfp
@@christophergribben5210 thanks!
To be fair that's an easy one without even a teardown hah. External power brick, no HDD bay, no motorized drive.
Who knows what they did to the board or if they really needed to
Snotnarok actually, the very last PS2 slims did have an internal power supply.
@@strykah92 Oh you're talking the revision of the slim. That I didn't know. I got a slim myself with the PS2 style front, I know they got another one a very different front.
I love the design of the PS3 Slim and how reliable it is. I have this model since 2010, and I got also the Super Slim brand new in 2016. I would love to see the teardown of this model too.
I still love this console, despite it being old and out dated. Pretty good Blu-ray player too.
It has some great games.
It's even better now that it's so easily hacked.
I ripped all my ps3 games to my pc and run all the games on my ps3 through network folder.
Really convenient.
ilikeitalot29 indeed it did have some great games, the only thing is that online is just a bunch of hackers now so it’s almost unplayable.
It’s still one of the best Blu-Ray players to date. It also upscales DVD’s to better quality
Jesse yeah, I had two Blu-ray players that broke during the time I owned a PS3, both of those broke, ps3 still standing. It also plays 3D so that was cool at the time.
A ps3 slim with hen xploit will play most ps2 and upscale those too fairly decently
Had a 60 gig fat PS3. That thing was a beast, also flipping hot. But in 2006, having a system that was also a blu ray player, could output 1080, and was also a PS2 was pretty sweet.
The 3000 slim model have some differences (based on my model, 3000A NTSC-J):
- Disc (Blu-ray) drive now use ribbon cables
- Most components are changed (not the same model), though layout still the same
- RSX and Cell are smaller in size (as far as I remember its between 40 and 30 something nanometers)
- Any type of CFW is not compatible, only PS3HEN
- Reduced power consumption and reduced PSU wattage (around 200 instead of 250ish)
- Heatsink (and cooling solutions) are slightly different, although works the same
Also you see the cmos battery right there🤣 my slim 2501A I have to get to the board to replace the cmos.
Nec tokens also changed in later slim models
@@Neo_Rain146to what? The NEC/TOKINS seem to be pretty durable
PS3 Slim 2001 is the very best because you can install full Rebug. My baby was just sitting gathering dust until PS3Xploit came out a few years ago and luckily I did not update it for a long time. So now it has a 500 GB SSD filled with titles and I cleaned the insides and applied new paste. Interestingly enough my PS3 Slim is 11 years old but the paste underneath the IHS is fine. I only applied paste on top of the heat spreader and I used MX4 compound. My temps are 55 Celsius on both CPU and GPU. I wonder if my Slim is a unicorn? I hear a lot of people say they get bad temps without delidding. I only cleaned it and applied new paste once in 11 years because the fan was slightly louder and now it is almost completely silent.
Earlier this year my friend gave away his overheating PS3 slim. The overheating was pretty bad, 30 minutes of playing and it turns off. I took it apart, changed the thermal paste between the heat spreader and the heat sink. It helped slightly, I could play as long as I need, but the fan was roaring, driving everyone mad.
I took it apart again, the new thermal paste was already dry after a few months of work! Checked the RUclips, learned that you need to remove the heat spreaders and changed the thermal paste underneath. So I did, but instead of using thermal paste, I’ve applied gallium. Unfortunately you can only use it between the chips and the heat spreaders, because the heat sink is made of aluminum and gallium will corrode it.
Now it works so silent, I can hardly hear the fan under the full load.
I own a ps3 super slim so i would love to see a teardown.
Spoiler: They used the shrinkinator.
Ok Dr. Doofenshmirtz.
A platypus?? PERRY the platypus?!!?!
Curse you Perry the platypus.
I’ve seen you before
Oh, where can I buy it, I just have that slower shrinkinator 2000
I customized my PS3 Slim. I made the letters "PS3" white just like the thumbnail to this video, and I added the old original "Playstation 3" logo to mine as well
I love (LOVE!) the technical info and teardowns on this channel. I could watch stuff like this for hours.
Love your tear-ups, you are one of few who got the guts to delid the ps3 💪🏼
Bought my slim in june of 2010. Its been shipped to alaska and back, dropped on a hardwood floor twice, and has hundreds of thousands of hours of playtime on it and its still running strong today. Ive even gone through 2 controllers since ive had it. Played it so much the joysticks wore out. A beast of a system.
This is perfect timing. I just delidded the IHS on my fat PS3 60GB and changed the thermal paste underneath. Now I just need a PS5 and I'll have the two best backwards compatible consoles!
Technically you own 5 consoles
Me: "I don't need to watch this. They just took out the PS2 they stuffed in there."
PS2s.
This is too true
You're doing just fine yet modders added it back in via custom firmware
Also you: watches it anyway 😅
@@bubblesnopemporium5880 got me there
This channel is starting to be one of my favorite.
I only ever owned a Super Slim model, so yea I would appreciate seeing a teardown of that system too.
Do more of these tech videos. Absolutely fascinating. Thanks man.
Yes, please do the PS3 Super-Slim. It's the model I have. The door can be a bit annoying sometimes but I just love how small it is. It'd be cool to see you open it up.
that door wasn't annoying at all. it looks like a traditional japanese tatami door
I needed this video on Friday, just picked up a slim for $30, cleaned it, new thermal paste, and it runs perfect
Still got my PS3 slim and it still works great!
Same
Hard to believe that they made it even smaller towards the end of the cycle
The Wii did it with the Wii mini
Christian Jacobson get that monstrosity out of here
@@TruTrae you mean *the pretty useless system
it a pos... it just what you play on before you had to find slim ps3...
People dont even notice that at the end of PS2's cycle, they redesigned it again called the 9000 series in which they reduced the size of motherboard which made ot possible to make the power supply built into the system
The PS3 slim is a classic design. Still using mine to this day.
Changing the thermal paste and soft modding it so you can manually adjust the fan speed is a must if you want your PS3 to last
Excellent advice. Thank you.
Use carbon paste or pads, they are inferior to a top thermal paste but are better than the factory paste + they don’t degrade overtime, one application is forever
That's actually a good idea
I remember on hot summer days when I was younger I would overheat this thing and think it was fine but now I realize that's not good for it
So I need to take it apart clean it but i don't have a ifixit kit and that's 60 bucks I don't have
I think this is the best looking PS3 by far.
I mean I've had both and i liked the whole glossy look of the og and the spiderman font was nice but the overall design of the slim was just better
@@Darklord_tK The glossiness is part of why I don't like the OG PS3! Each to his own I guess.
The super slim was the worst.
@@dericjames2018 agreed, although it does get some points from me for it's size.
PS3 was a beast at the time, imagine if console nowadays still use cell processor
The PS3 looks like a engine to a supercar when you take the top off, they did a cool redesign. I would love to see a prototype of the slim someday, just to see the path they took in the redesign.
I have a 12 GB super slim that I bought new in 2012 and put in a 750gb hard drive. Please do a tear down of the super slim ps3. I love these videos and find myself watching them over and over.
The PS5 is even bigger than the PS3 Phat... that's insane
That’s ridiculous
So much for futuristic design.
@@j.k.1239 so much for good cooling
Is also way more powerful. Is not that big of a deal. Still smaller than PCs with the same specs. And cheaper.
H. E. M. Incorrect
Now we need the How Spawnwave made the Nerds Bigger video. Need that workout routine vid
Still have the release 60 gig ps3, it still works and it looks badass XD
Storage needs for consoles as we head forward through the digital age is crazy. I just bought a 512gb memory card, and soon even that will seem too small
Not enough choices for 1TB micros though. $240+ for an A3 Sandisk card with no alternative is pretty shitty. I'm stickin' at 512 GB as well.
You know the concept of after-taste? It always feels great when the storage mediums of a console generation become super cheap 1-2 console generations down the line.
I really, *really* hope that consoles going all digital actually forces these storage manufactures to cut costs and increase storage amounts, because it feels like storage has been pretty stagnant recently.
@@Freak80MC the day a 1tb card won't cost an arm and a leg. Hopefully effects the Switch card production as well and 64gb cards become cheaper.
@@Freak80MC Well digital versions should be optimized/shrunken this gen because of built in SSD. Optical Disc games have the same files littered around the disc so they can cut down on seek time and drive thrashing.
This is fascinating stuff; I would love to see you do a tear down of the super slim.
I was watching PS1,2,3 history videos today and you just come out with this video! Very cool.
xbox is getter better but ps are our best memory... don't know how sony will surived without ps.. they stat off don't like the market... thank nitendo or we still had only had wii power to play game on 2020...
My PS3 slim is the CECH-2501A where the drive PCB is actually integrated into the motherboard. So replacing the drive is actually a little easier since you don't have to swap PCBs.
How spawn wave made the ps3 slimmer.....
He crushed it with his hulk arms
As an owner of both the first slime and super slim PS3, I would be thrilled to see you break down the super slim and explain the further changes Sony made.
Wow just watching up random ps3 teardowns and never noticed how easy the cmos battery is to get to on this thing (just in case) until this video
I had a PS3 slim. Great console.
Would of liked if you had a side-by-side comparison of the fat PS3 to the PS3 slim - like you did with the PS1. Easier to see the difference as to how they made the PS3 smaller.
Just seems they reduced the transistor size to have less cooling and power supply to make it work. Right?
Great video! I’d love to see a tear down of the Super Slim PS3!
For me this ps3 is the best looking system for any console and mine is still going strong since 2009
As someone who owns a SuperSlim, I would totally love to see its teardown in the future. 🤘🏽
the superslim stop loader was so terrible, on mine the locking mechanism broke so I had to tape it shut once the disk I wanted to play was in.
Anyway a few months after I got a last gen system I decided to get a cheap original slim which was way better
L
I've been reading up on all models, and I'm probably gonna end up getting the super slim despite its dull loader. Turns out all super slims (and some specific normal slims, hard to differentiate those on used market tho) got rid of the NEC Tokin capacitors. Used to own a fatty and it YLOD'ed most likely due to those capacitors
The PS3 2500 series is my favourite version, I use two of them as my primary media players even though I have newer devices attached to the TVs. The 3000 series may be a bit quieter, but it looks and feels cheaper plus I recall it removes the indicator LEDs.
@@subtegral CECH-25xx vs 30xx series
@@subtegral Slim was 20xx, 21xx, 25xx, and 30xx. Superslim was 4xxx.
Always good to learn something new everyday🙂
Congrats on having the correct bits for those security screws, and not taking a Dremel to it!
He has more than 8-Bits, Guy!
I just bought an ifixit kit for like 40 bucks it has all the weird bits in it
I bought one from a thrift store recently and the drive had like four discs jammed into it so I had to open it up. Didn’t have the right tools so I just used a small flathead and they unscrewed easy😂
@@ilikeitalot2923 for 40 bucks you could have bought another playstation
And today: PS5 Size is "fine". I still don't know where i put that Monster and maybe have to w8 until a PS5 Slim is made.
You realize you can lay it horizontally and it doesn't take up THAT many more inches in space over the PS4 right?
I guess, based only on rumours of how it's constructed, they went for a very unusual approach on cooling and, because of that, it had to be SO BIG.
A PS5 Slim will most probably have a different cooling solution. How about being discless only? The disc drive version was clearly an afterthought, considering the design.
@@chriswiandt4907 it's literally 50% bigger than the Series X and the Series X is already very big
@@chriswiandt4907 this is actually my Problem. It doesn't matter if i lay the PS5 down or let it stay like a Skyscraper. It will not fit in my TV Rag. Even the first Xbox One Model fitting in there. So i hope the Slim get's reduced in lenght, so it will be the same or smaller then the Xbox One.
@@robertoacj I don't think they make a Digital Only Slim. But yeah, if they make both, it also depends on where they put the Discdrive on the Slim. Im actually not even sure how a PS5 Slim will look like. But it will take years until this happen and i still have alot of PS4 Games to play. So i have to (and will) wait.
(and i totaly understand the form factor, to cooling the Console, but it's still to big^^)
I remember taking this apart to apply Arctic silver five
Yo, same 💪🏼
It's pretty neat how they did that. It reminds me on how they did the same thing with the PS2 Slim, which is still impressive on how they did that, too.
Yeah, a Super-Slim teardown would be great to see.... that was/is, my PS3.... works perfectly; a lovely system!
The 250gb PS3 Slim was my first ever Playstation. I remember getting it in 2011 on my birthday.
Would love to see a tear down of the PS3 Super Slim and how it compares to the Slim!
Yes do a teardown of the super slim, i wanna see what the weird stuff is
ive had the ps3 slim for years. almost 10 now. i just cleaned it and its like the insides were from the 1920s
Yeah superslim tear down would be awesome 👌
Tech wave is not the same after seeing Spawn's gym photos online. I only see a WWE wrestler with a gamer's personality showing us the tech... Spawn Wave, more like Spawn Gains!
I still have my 80gb model 🙂Ps3
yeah 50gb fat one.. i think i only had few game on it since i get ps3 slim 3 or 4 years later jailbreak...
Give me
PS3 slim heatsink: I’m small & compact
PS5 heatsink: hold my beer 🍺 , I’ll show you the darkside
Love PS3 playing 2023 😎❤🔥
The original backwards compatible Ps3 is still the best looking console in my opinion and still looks modern
PS3 Slim: Good console 👍 . Can't wait to see how lessons and feedback from all the PS3 and PS4 systems influence the PS5.
Yes please I love the way you do teardowns!
They removed the ps2 backward compatibility was a mistake and I know they have to removed it for reasons
@Falco Gaming - They still had bc via emulation (software), in 40 & 80GB models. They only removed the hardware, not the feature entirely on fat model systems. Didn't the original 120GB slims drop it completely?
@@subtegral - You fucked up, bro. Reread my shit. It's accurate.
EDIT: Okay 80GB was & 40GB wasn't. Clear. Still not completely off base. I didn't know so many fat models lacked the feature. Doesn't matter anyway..... cfw fixes that little limitation.
@@subtegral Wrong. E model still had partial hardware emulation with PS2 GPU on the motherboard but no CPU, which resulted in slightly worse compatibility. There also was a PAL launch 60gb C model which also had partial hardware emulation and exactly the same design as A and B models.
Anyone else jealous how easily he got those heat spreaders off!?
Why can't they make a 7nm Cell and RSX on a tiny chip and have BC? Wouldn't that be super cheap to manufacture today?
At least $100
Even in 2009 with the release of CECHQxx PS3 they were able to reduce unit costs down to just 240$, and a majority of that wasn't the chips' prices
It'd be actually pretty cheap (sub-50$ just for chips) to implement one for hardware BC with a 28nm RSX/45nm SOI CELL that is still being pumped out for PS now servers
product on chip that you would kill after few year.. i doubt it.. the only good thing on ps3 is that it last 10 years life cycle..
it'd be awesome to see a super slim teardown, I've only seen fat and slim
I would definitely be interested in taking a look at some of the other playstation 3 models. I love these videos that you do. Quick question, what do you do with these systems after you get them put back together, and how many of each system do you have? Haha
As one of the few people who actually likes the super slim PS3, a teardown for that would be interesting to see.
The Slim model wasn't my favourite console design wise. By the time I could afford a PS3, the only option was the Slim 250GB. I really wanted the PlayStation 3 Fat model back then. But I really love my slim model now. It's been reliable ever since I bought it back in December of 2009.
I really miss my PS3 Fat it was a stunning looking machine but once the blu-ray died I figured it was cheaper to sell and buy a super slim at that point, I do regret it now.
i stil had fat one.. the blu-ray kind of work but it keep ejecting disc same with my ps4... it think i would used them less and less but i still love it...
I'd like a super slim teardown comparison. I replaced the thermal paste on mine earlier this year, and the worst part was clipping back the casing pieces; many tabs were broken.
You did not show how to glue back correctly the heatspreaders. A full tutotial, maybe with suggested tools, would be much appreciated.
Yes, definitely also make a video like this on the super slim, please!
It would be very interesting to also see this comparison, because the super slim is even smaller
I hope we see a slim ps5 sooner than later. The current model is comically big.
yes
I just bought me a Slim PS3 in North Pole Alaska for $10 only off a person on fb market place and it work flawlessly. 👌😁
I think this is the best looking PS3
*cutaway to Scott the Woz with a chainsaw cutting the Foreman Grill ps3 in half*
2 years later we will have the PS5 Slim for sure
In the next 2 years we will
Content like this makes you stand out.
What’s the diff from the 120 gb vs the 320 gb beside the led power button and disc button
The super slim was my first "current gen" console went from a SNES and a ps1 to the slider
I would love to see a super slim year down. I just got one to replace my original phat launch console that unfortunately died this year.
I’ve had all of them at one point but my dad just gave me his from 2006 it’s bc and the fat version even if it wasn’t bc I still like the original Spider-Man font so the launch look is my favorite plus having the guts of a ps2 in my ps3 is way better then when they removed bc all together for ps2
90Nm and now the newer generation PS5 is 7Nm. Tech has come a
One way in 15 years. That is amazing.
PS5 slim will probably be 5nm or 3nm, very small
I’ve never gotten a slim console I’ve always gotten the launch model and kept them. Just always liked the og stuff lol
Peoples PS3 slim models has a green light but mine doesn't im pretty sure i heard something about a old and new PS3 slim model
(Edit the green light that blinks when you press the eject button)
I still have my release ps3 60gb and im glad it still works. Cleaned it only once during all the years, it took me 3 hours :D
I've had every single playstation consol and started getting even more into gaming (because I actually have money now) on the end of my PS3 life. I just recognized that the "big" playstation I had was actually the slim! I never knew that mine was the small one, I always thought it was huge
well the fat one... that i got one around dmc4 come out..
Ive had my slim for 9 years now from new, has never let me down, although my HDMI port is a little melted, I must have left it on over night or something
I'm thinking of picking a Slim one of these days to use instead of my current Super Slim, mostly for the looks of it. I hear that it's also quite unreliable, but I haven't had any particular issues with it.
SS very reliable. Sexy no reliable Si
I got a 3011 metallic blue ps3 (alongside the fat bc 80gb) I wonder if it's the sweet spot version you mentioned because it is very quiet