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I have been driving on and off since 2016. Right now my biggest issue with Uber or Lyft is manipulation. It’s just sickening and demoralizing. I understand it’s a hustle but I just want to drive and earn a fair split of the fare collected from passengers without playing games.
DON'T WE ALL!! DO YOU HEAR US NOW UBER & LYFT?!! These companies do NOT CARE about either the driver, nor the rider, so it's up to both driver and rider to care about each other. This creates success for both driver and rider. They should've never tried to fix what was not broken. It all started going bad when they went IPO.
If they weren't conning us, that would be a different story. They know exactly how they are deceiving us and do it wherever they can get away with it, blaming it on the mysterious algorithm doing it.. I call BS!
I used to drive in the opposite direction just to revolt. They now offer you a choice if you want to "switch" to the new ride, often providing some B.S. justification like "Higher Rated Rider" or "Higher Paying Ride"
UberEats keeps sending the bogus warning "In order to raise your status, accept more orders." I used to have NO problem remaining at Platinum status ~ all i did was worked. But now the $/miles ratios are RIDICULOUSLY low. I keep declining orders. AND THEN they will cont to offer THE EXACT horrible order, sometimes 5 or 6 times; thatz something fairly new too. I feel this is even a manipulation to not only pay us as little as possible but to also keep our status low so we earn less perk$. Plz share a response. Thank u💪
All of us drivers regardless of its Uber or Lyft we need to come down together nation wide and stop driving for a few days (2-3 days every month) , stop driving during major events concerts sporting events or any event that draws high demand(revenue for Uber and Lyft) and if possible get media attention
As soon as you get a ride turn off the ride requests until you drop the person off and then you won't have the offers hitting your screen. Then when you drop them off turn the ride requests back on. I've found it to be a less stressful way to deal with being bombarded with offers while I'm driving and usually having a conversation with the customer. So much safer that way.and I can actually see what I'm accepting instead of just blindly accepting sometimes.
@ladystormhealing its true if many drivers do the same than uber or algorithm doesent have many choices.but unfortunately many many new naive drivers do accept as couldn't see the navigation and after accepting they dont want to cancel the ride as they dont want loose their bonuses status which i never bothered! So a win gor uber at the moment till newbies understand or not that deliberate.....
I always call the passenger before arriving to let them know they can leave early as soon as I arrive. Most say they will leave early….therefore, very minimal wait time. I hate having to be online 40 minutes before a scheduled ride. Really is a waste of time to blow 30 minutes before a 10 minute ride to pickup location.
Another one is choosing Quest. Once you pick a Quest you give Uber the power to control and manipulate you. Nowadays I don’t bother picking Quests since they have been essentially reduced to zero. Choosing a Quest is telling the algorithm to abuse you by giving you 3.75 rides since it knows you need a certain numbers of rides to complete the Quest.
If only it were that easy! You can take a ride that seems high paying and still be screwed. I took a ride that paid $33.71 for 22mi or so... guy paid 117.98 for the trip. For me, that was about $1.53/mi... good right? $33.71 for 40ish min of work, but overall that means Uber kept 72% while I got a measly 28% when I'm doing all the work and their system just pairs passengers with drivers. Not to mention, when I don't have any riders set up in my queue and the trip thing pops up... I'll select the ones I want, but then not get any of those, another ride will come direct to my phone and it'll be away from the surge area even though I choose rides that had surges attached. So... the ability to pick high paying rides isn't really there. I do cherry pick, I do take only rides that are above $1.00/mi and if I do a lot of driving... I generally make about $2k/wk. I prefer to stay busy and moving, knowing that I might have a small fish now, but I could be moving to an area where a whale is waiting that's also a tipper!
@@ssunkite1 generally if I do things of 12s... I'll make 2300-2700 based on bonuses and tips. 2k or there abouts is from maybe 45-60hrs of driving. It's random, as we all know and is based on a large number of variables. I'm in a large city, large metro, with a lot of impoverished people and a lot of well off people enjoying their money. It's a good mix, honestly.
I've learned that once I'm on a ride, I have to click "no new requests" so basically going offline. otherwise uber and lyft will sneak in a very lowball offer. Now that does mean I have wait time in-between each ride but I feel better that I've stopped them manipulating me in that way. heartless companies!
You forgot how Uber hustles and removes you from a profitable area with short pick up distances and send you to unprofitable areas where every pick up is at least 15 minutes or more than 5 miles. They do it by starving you with small $4.59 fares and then showing you a $25 fare that will still take about an hour to complete to nowhere. Once there and an hour away from city center, you will be shuttling riders 15 to 20 minutes away and essentially losing money. In the past Uber used to pay for doing this manipulative technique by paying for completing 3 consecutive rides with the last one taking you to no man’s land. Now the algorithm just trick you and dump you in an area where you’re forced to offer losing rides.
Blew a gasket a month and a half ago. Went back to a W-2, 9 to 5, and getting an independent contractor remote customer service job You're not burning up gas and killing your car. After the pandemic, Uber went downhill. Also, from you last video, they're stealing tips Another class action is coming....
Uber didn't go downhill. It's just you people thought the economy would get bad, and while every other company on the planet increases their prices, for some ignore reason you guys thought Uber and Lyft would just lose money and keep paying you guys the same.
Jay, I have a pet peeve that has been going on with passengers. I often get people with walkers to and from doctor appointments. This I do not mind because the walkers fold up easily. BUT…I had 2 pick ups last week with people who were wheelchair bound. The first one, the woman had her daughter with her so she took care of getting her mother and the chair in my suv. The second was a man on his own. I refused to pick him up and canceled the ride saying “item’s would not fit”. We are not medical transport. This may not be Ubers fault but these doctors offices using Uber for wheelchair transport is wrong. Thoughts???
And if you get hurt on the job trying to physically load a passenger into your car, even knowing that the medical offices do not tip, you have no recourse for medical leave or Worker's Comp! But if you cancel this kind of ride, your cancellation rate is affected and you are PENALIZED! Foul Uber/Lyft/medical offices!!
@@robinrienerth6521 when I canceled it didn't affect my rate because I put in that their items wouldn't wouldn't fit it's also not our responsibility to transport patients and transfer them into our vehicle
Yeah, and if those rides are third party booked, by the doctor/clinic/hospital/etc. I guarantee you the doctor/clinic/hospital/etc. is billing the patient's insurance the max allowed.
In Arizona the transportation Company that had the medical transport contract with the state actually uses Uber to do the transport for most rides. What a joy to take methadone clinic and dialysis rides. One lady gamed the system to pick up her prescription at Walmart and bought a cart full of groceries that needed to be loaded and u loaded all for $4.
I do food delivery for uber eats and uber is taking 50 60 up to 70 % base fare and making me go 3.5 4 5 miles and I'm noticing there algorithm is taking base fare as from tips meaning if I get a nice tip the base fare will be 30% to me and 70% to them
I'd argue that Lyft having Auto-Accept is manipulation, and I'm so glad they finally gave me the option to disable it, so I don't end up driving 70+ miles out of nowhere.
only problem is there are still rides that could be sent to another driver if they are closer than you, but you won't receive anything for your effort.
When Uber switches you to that reserved ride and you had to wait for 30 minutes you should have turned on Lyft and taken a ride or two then come back to the reserved ride.
Dont do the chart thing... it's always too hard to follow where youre going with it. I always turn off my app on each ride, because of your second point. I'd rather concentrate on my current ride and worry about the next one when I'm finished with the current one.
Something else that needs to be added. Twice, Lyft has done a bait and switch on me. I getna notification for a ride with a high dollar figure. After accepting it. That same ride(s) price drops. Initially it's subtle to the eyes. But it has happened. Take screen shots of your rides
This has happened to me on a lux ride with lyft.... changed 43.99 upfront price on a 2 mile ride during an event, to 19.99 +4 bonus due to longer than estimated (according to them). The ride was no different than the other rides of similar length. Thats what made me remember the original fare. I complained, they played stupid.
Lyft just screwed me out of a reservation ride by giving the ride to someone else after I drove 17 miles and 25 minutes to pick up Allan and would not allow me to "Arrive," saying that I was too far away! And now Lyft has deleted the entire reservation from my app! They just keep getting worse, not better. If you have stock in Lyft, sell it fast!
Jay I agree 100% with what you said but in addition to making more money it's about being efficient too. With $5 a gallon gas price's some days where I make less money I actually nett more by taking rides that make more sense. Some small rides for $4 are ok if your driving a half mile away to drive someone 1 mile as opposed to driving 5 miles to drive somewhere 3 miles.
The trouble is, many drivers out there are not intelligent enough to spot the low paying stuff and not accept it. They will simply accept it when they see it on their screen. We should work together and not ACCEPT THE LOW $$ offers they send us!! Please drivers dont work for peanuts or you will bring us all down, making us desperate and unber lift and bolt will love it.
Some of those people need rides some drivers regardless if the person is at there door they won't do a 5 $ trip but someone needs to get to work some people.need to get home from doctor office I'm pissed too but this kind of sounds greedy do you care about your customers at all there hands are in your lives.
I drive both at Disney in Orlando; I set a filter each to accept rides in a 5 mile circle on Disney property. Gives you the chance to get more rides which means better tips than just one tip on a long ride. Also keeps your driving area to a minimum so saves miles and gas. Take advantage of gas discounts. I’m a platinum driver and average .30 cents off per gallon which gives me a free tank of gas every 5th fill up. I average $30 an hour and drive 2/3 hours driving 50 miles a nite. Remember to also think outside the box…
Uber has an "auto-accept" option in my market (Tampa Bay). I've never turned it on, but it's there. For awhile we had the same problem with getting scheduled rides as a normal ping. There was nothing to tell you it was a scheduled ride until you arrived and that was usually 15-30+ minutes too early. They substantially fixed these issues now. The ping is clearly marked "scheduled ride" (so at least you know) and after you accept it, the little icon is different so you can tell, and you can immediately look at the trip details and the exact scheduled pick up time. This is the messed up thing about it. If uber can give that information to drivers in my market, why can't they give to drivers in Jay's market?
In Chicago they lock you out of further reservations if you cancel them, even though they got you to accept like a normal ride using their dishonest tactics.
Im starting to wondif the algorithm punishes you for being more selective by not giving you more rides. I seemed to have had a terrible dry spell whenever I choose not to accept rides in attempts to discriminate as you said.
In Boston last winter I would get reserved rides for the next day. But I would have to look after 11 pm and these rides are always around 4 am to 6 am. Also ALWAYS to Logan Airport of course. Now nothing just what Jay said you don't know until you excepted the ride. I definitely make sure I let my passengers know that I just received the ride. Make them aware that RESERVATIONS mean nothing. I've also received many private clients this way and always a great tip!
What burns my ass is the trip notifications being shown in time as opposed to distance, the way Lyft does. A 15-minute trip in Toronto can mean 1 km in distance in rush hour traffic. a 45-minute trip can mean anything as well. But what's really ire-inflicting is the 1 + hour trips that can take you out of the city and preclude you from getting trips in that region. Decline a trip and you still get penalized from even getting to see trip notification information AT ALL. As a diamond driver, this is unconscionable to me and offends me no end. In Toronto, not only are you penalized for a high cancelation rate, but they get you on a low acceptance rate as well.
I'm in Los Angeles, Uber does have an auto accept feature which I don't use because I wanna know what i accept. So I stop accepting request as soon as I accept one, then turn it on as soon as I'm done. But what are your thoughts on prop 22? Every two weeks I get anywhere between 150 and 300 dollars because I was underpaid apparently.
In my city they show “reservation “ in the bottom left corner when reserved ride comes through during a trip. A lot of these things are based on area. What is going on in one city is different in others as far as functions go.
Now , FUBER Los Angeles CA, only sends me $3 - $4 trips only all day with bad rating riders trip requests. After the expenses i make $6.50 an hour. 😂 Its Time to drive with local taxi cabs 😂
I would not have waited 25mins for the scheduled ride. In my market, it tells me when the rider needs to be picked up, so if its a good ride I can hop on Lyft to do a short ride and then head for the scheduled ride. You can also call the pax and ask them if they're ready, explain that waiting 25mins is a waste of time/money. 99% of the time, the rider is ready. Only 1x a rider wasn't ready but he tipped me $15 because I called and gave him the option of coming right away or waiting
That's exactly what I've learned to do. I don't even do those bonuses anymore, they're just a trick for you to pick up those micro rides. When you add a regular day up, of your selective rides, compared to picking up micro rides to get that 100 bonus, for picking up 60 rides, you'll still be way short of your regular selective ride day. Beware of those bonuses, they're just a waste of gas and no money.
Often Uber Eats offers $6 bonus every three deliveries completed.. so it seems that at least one request of every three is really low.. while you do get 2 more dollars per request when you complete a set of three only it no longer feels above and beyond .. one would need that bonus just to make what the usual
Agree 100%. I refuse to take that lowball offer. I’ve sacrificed the $6.00 intentionally because I refuse to take that $3.00 or $2.50 offer. I say “f*** you” to the phone screen and decline the request. I won’t play that stupid game.
The third one is always delayed and sends you as far away from where you want to. drive as possible... On night aaaccepting streaks I ended up 3 1/2 hours from home... Never again...put it on Black only and cherry pick
have two phones, Uber and Lyft. Reserve and airport reserves are the worst type. You lose money on reserve 1 hr prior and waiting (airport late flight are always delay).
Jay, regarding reserve rides, I don’t know about your market but when I get a notification for a reservation ride,it always says reservation. And the pick up times have always been within the arrival time.
Some markets are super slow and some drivers accept every ride because they may only get one off an hour and it may pay $4.59. In my market, the rides are unlimited. In 6 hours, I know I deny Over 60 bad offers and do 20.
It almost always great in the beginning but not for those who don't get in on the beginning. I got in 2018. I did experience the multiplier before they changed it. Started getting ripped off since late 2018. Could have made so much more back in 2016. But it wasn't my timeline to start. I can speak to how to make a lot of money. There are things I know that I haven't heard yet about how to make a lot of money especially in Nashville.
How do we deal with the devil? It’s like if we become selective, every other driver thinking the same thing? So how many good offer is there going around? Plus the devil will punished the driver by ghost pausing, I think the only way to show them is to quit!
It boils down to this in Texas RGV market.... Minimum wage plus tips and 95% of people don't tip. No matter how clean and fresh my car and I are and how nice and accommodating I am only few people tip. FYI minimum wage is $7.25 in Texas
I've often seen the notification thing as more of a benefit to riders, so that they'll at least have one person who could take their ride. Yeah, it sucks as a driver, since you never look at your phone for those until they are gone. But from the rider side, it's great for them since there'll be at least one driver who'll likely see their request. Some of these other things I never noticed, thanks for pointing them out.
I have a couple of manipulations. One most people should know already is that if you take a small fair (for what ever reasons you have) the AI will give only small fairs until there isn't anyone around to take the good stuff. And a new one with Uber Eats. A store owner told me about a new Uber policy to combat people sitting around where if you wait to long at a place for an order the system registers the driver as a bad match for the store and basically bans them from the store. This will reduce your pick up locations without notice. So if you're waiting to long, to avoid being banned you jave to cancel the order. That will still mess with your cancellation rating. It's a no win situation.
Does anyone have an idea how those algorithms work? How come I pick up the call and as soon as I pick up suddenly I receive a message” something went wrong”. This happens to me a lot and then I check my acceptance rate and it goes down like rain. Surreal! This is disgusting 😏
One thing that I don't like is the difference between your app and my app. Uber doesn't auto-accept? A tiny notification? Not in my app. I believe that you don't have that. I do.
Hi Jay I agree with you and I found it hard to win against these companies I found a way to make them loose money after I complet a trip but that can only work one or two times a day, by the way things got worse for the drivers after Uber and Lyft went public,i try to limit how many trips i accept and i try to work when I'm short on cash and I also drive when there's a big event i avoid accepting long trips with my strategy i make at least $ 2.00 a mile.
Hello, I am brand new to lift and Uber and I’ll be working in the Saint Petersburg Clearwater area. I am being brand new. I don’t know if I’m supposed to drive around in a big circle and hoping to get close to a customer and get the get the fair or if I’m supposed to just sit somewhere and wait for thefor the ding and go get the fair. Can you please help me know how to do this, I would really appreciate it. I tried driving the other weekend and I just felt frustrated because I didn’t know where to go or what to do.
You can no longer cancel Lyft rides after the ride is auto accepted. You can but it will count against your cancel rate. This change happened in the Nashville market about 3 weeks ago.
I'm sorry Jay but Lyft's auto-accept is the bane of rideshare driving. I'd be willing to bet that 99 times out of 100 the rides you auto-accepted are trash $2 - $4 rides you woulda/shoulda/coulda opted out of to begin with. By auto accepting you're now in the position of either taking that crap or cancelling and watching your cancellation rate climb to potential platform expelling amounts.
Correction here. With Lyft, you can decline an auto accept any time you stop your vehicle, at a light, pull over, or when you drop off the current customer before you end the ride, and it is not a cancelation.
Hi Thanks for sharing. It is interesting. I tried to apply for Uber with my 2022 Toyota 4 Runner. I was rejected because this type of vehicle is not accepted on Uber platform. Do you guys know anything about this? Thanks in advance
Here is something else happening while I wait on a rides… when I cancel a ride.. park somewhere “safe” and wait wait wait…🙄then I turn to a social media and what I notice they don’t send me anything.. it’s not like it was before.. before I could put my phone on low battery and surf the internet and still get rides, but now they say they can’t see my location… that’s a bunch of BS when they already know where I am at my phone is on.. and I have my location set to precise and sharing with them.
About 5am I canceled a reserved ride on lyft since it was surging. The ride was about $11. The same ride in the surge area came back shortly around $7.9ish. I am sure based on the addresses.
Uber doesn't show me how much the rides pay upfront. I contacted them and they said they don't offer that in my area. I said well I would like to know how much it pays before I accept it or not. They didn't care.
@Therideshareguy is there anything I can do about them shaving time off of the rides since my pay is based off of time and distance? Will they adjust it or am I stuck just accepting whatever they it is.
I have a 54% and 53% acceptance rate with Uber and Lyft respectively. Which I know they consider to be very low. Honestly, I'm surprised it's that high. I feel like I turn down 2 or 3 rides for every one that I accept. They have ZERO CONCERN for drivers making money. So, I'm pretty picky about the rides I accept. I believe that their algorithm actually rewards picky drivers, even though they strongly encourage drivers to accept every ride they are offered. And here's the thing... They are about customer satisfaction, even though they don't give a crap about drivers. So, if there is a customer that needs a ride and they know you are a picky driver, they will pay you whatever they think it's going to take to get you to accept that ride and take care of that customer. Today I got an offer for $18 that I accepted. In talking to the customer I found out he only paid $20 and change for the ride. So they paid me around 90% of that fare. Why? Because the algorithm has figured out that I look at the pickup distance and the drop off distance and I will not accept the ride if it's not profitable. So, they made me an offer that I couldn't refuse, to make sure the customer was taken care of.
Hi. I’m an Uber driver from Melbourne Australia. My account was deactivated without any fault of mine, the customer sitting on the back seat opened the door on to the cycle track. And Uber has deactivated my account saying I have voided the community guidelines. Is there any chance I can get my account back and drive again?? Pls advice. Thank you.
I only accept extremely high paying airport reservation orders, I've taken ones that were normally $30 for the distance and ended up with a reservation order for $80, it was a good deal to wait 30 minutes and get an extra $50. and cuz gave 20 tips BTW. 😁
I'm being manipulated by uber in usa Pennsylvania they are charging a rider for 20$ but giving driver $5 for the ride. They are litterly taking 75% here in Pa. I am litterly converting my uber riders to personal private riders now. It's business but I am slowly converting them now.
With Uber you have to check not only the hourly rate but also the earnings per mile - in about 5 seconds. It may be a good earnings per mile, but have stops that make the trip take too long. Or it might be a trip that takes you to an area that's not busy. I heavily use the last trip feature, especially when I anticipate that there will be surge near my destination. I also heavily use Lyft's area filter to keep me in the busier areas. You cannot rely on one app or the other. Incentives change week to week, and usually one i better than the other on any given week. If there are no incentives to work towards, then I will run both apps at the same time and take the best available trips. Given all the gimmicks they throw at you, I have primarily focused on earnings per mile. I make about the same per week as I did in 2019, but I am driving 300-400 miles less per week, and am in the car less. I don't have much tolerance for down time. I won't sit in my car for an hour doing only one short trip. I'd rather go home and do chores.
Yeah, I thought it was me crack it up but they do switch the rides I pick the ride that was a mile to pick up and a half mile drop off which turned into a mile to pick up and 28 miles to drop off and only paid $19 but I wanted to know if you select every job that pops up when you’re out there with Lyft or are you just criminate? Do you only except jobs that are over nine dollars or over eight dollars
Uber doesn't show us what we are making for a trip. All I see is length of trip and minutes to pickup. I have zero clue what I'm being paid until the trip is done. It's crazy! I'm averaging ( depending on tips) about $17-$20 an hour. I've been doing this for a year now.
Guys - not sure how to reach you, but as of Thursday, I am no longer receiving up-front pricing and Uber has no real explanation as to why or how to fix it. I no longer see the ride distance, the signal of a multi-stop request, the price (or even an estimate) - and no ability to select anything to look up such info before accepting a ride. Making me quite concerned. Are others experiencing this?
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I actually like that Uber doesn't automatically connect me with the next ride and let's me choose. I only do Uber anymore and this allows me to decide if I want to take it or not while I'm driving which often dictates where the current ride ends. In Nashville you often can't get the rider exactly where they want to be so I may drop them off on the opposite corner. Knowing ahead where I'm going next helps to maximize this. I do agree with the last point regarding scheduled trips which I generally hate but I ALWAYS call every rider as soon as I show up and ESPECIALLY on scheduled trips for that reason. If they told me they were still going to be 25-30 minutes there is no way I would wait and I would explain to them I'm going to cancel and another driver will be along closer to their selected time. Why would you NOT call the rider and just sit there for 30 minutes??? Sorry, but that's just wasting your time. Often on scheduled trips the rider will be ready and able to leave early. Again, why I ALWAYS call...also let's them know I'm there and verifies I'm in the right spot
On the early scheduled UBER ride, text the passenger that you will be there at X amount of time, and then use that in-between time to gas up or pull over and get some shut eye for 25 minutes. * The key thing is to make every ride a last ride in settings. It protects your rating and forces them [ The Lyft/Uber Driver Managers ] to play fair with you with offers. Bottom line, None of these companies survive without good, reliable drivers.
here is the trick of maximizing your profit of each trip, in another word de-converging their algorithm. you have to study your market and see the right point of inflection in terms of how many minutes the ride is far from you, never accept rides that are closer to you because that is where you loose money and they profit up to %60 of that specific ride. personally my threshold is 7 minutes, and that will keep their profit between 25%-30%. so imagine if all uber drivers pick rides in their market pick that are far by 7 minutes or so what will do to the algorithm.
I keep getting riders saying they'll tip me but they never do. Riders, don't tell the driver you'll rip because I know you won't. I'm tired of being taken advantage of
Text the forgot item...when they respond...text I know. You did not forget to tip me, because you're a great person and you said you'd tip me $20, but Lyft/Uber has been caught stealing our tips repeatedly....would you send me a screenshot of you receipt showing the tip so I can force them to pay me what you paid me... I'd really appreciate it because $5 here and $20 here they steal in tips adds up to thousands over the year...
Prop 22 give you guarenty 19.20 hr plus. . 35 mile. Its averaged over 2 wks. If you earn less they give an adjustment. Ive never earned more than this minimum 19.20 because i get a adjustment every 2wks. Pay and bonus on each ride dosent mean a thing. Because a high paying ride will reduce your adjustment and you dont get any more for that ride. Its almost impossible to make over the prop 22 minimum.
Its the non active time that you get no pay for. Only accept rides to locations where you will get a quick new ride. And that keeps you where you want to go.
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Travis did pay the drivers well 2014 - current =36k trips
I have been driving on and off since 2016. Right now my biggest issue with Uber or Lyft is manipulation. It’s just sickening and demoralizing. I understand it’s a hustle but I just want to drive and earn a fair split of the fare collected from passengers without playing games.
DON'T WE ALL!!
DO YOU HEAR US NOW UBER & LYFT?!!
These companies do NOT CARE about either the driver, nor the rider, so it's up to both driver and rider to care about each other. This creates success for both driver and rider. They should've never tried to fix what was not broken. It all started going bad when they went IPO.
New companies need to come out
@@thedemocratnetwork rideshare tech companies shouldn't exist from the get go. They just drop it's market and destroy industries, exploits workers
@@robinrienerth6521 they can replace you with immigrants that work 60-80 hours week without complaining . Why should they care ? 😭
If they weren't conning us, that would be a different story. They know exactly how they are deceiving us and do it wherever they can get away with it, blaming it on the mysterious algorithm doing it.. I call BS!
He forgot to mention Lyft's switch-a-roo. You finally accept a ride you like and then they change it to another ride without your acceptance.
When they do that, I immediately cancel the ride. I know what they're trying to do. Cancel those kinds of rides and save yourself the headache
I stopped driving for Lyft after a week. So awful.
I used to drive in the opposite direction just to revolt. They now offer you a choice if you want to "switch" to the new ride, often providing some B.S. justification like "Higher Rated Rider" or "Higher Paying Ride"
@@ChadDorothywhich we know isn’t always true. They slick.
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Excellent advice! New drivers, listen to this man. Acceptance rate does NOT matter and is NOT required to reamain active on the platform. Thanks Jay!
UberEats keeps sending the bogus warning "In order to raise your status, accept more orders." I used to have NO problem remaining at Platinum status ~ all i did was worked. But now the $/miles ratios are RIDICULOUSLY low. I keep declining orders. AND THEN they will cont to offer THE EXACT horrible order, sometimes 5 or 6 times; thatz something fairly new too. I feel this is even a manipulation to not only pay us as little as possible but to also keep our status low so we earn less perk$.
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All of us drivers regardless of its Uber or Lyft we need to come down together nation wide and stop driving for a few days (2-3 days every month) , stop driving during major events concerts sporting events or any event that draws high demand(revenue for Uber and Lyft) and if possible get media attention
tried that, didnt work.
@@SallyBlickenstaff I don't believe you, if 90% of drivers stopped driving for a weekend, something will be done.
We need to do a national stop for one full week who is with me ?
I’m in
I’m all in
As soon as you get a ride turn off the ride requests until you drop the person off and then you won't have the offers hitting your screen. Then when you drop them off turn the ride requests back on. I've found it to be a less stressful way to deal with being bombarded with offers while I'm driving and usually having a conversation with the customer. So much safer that way.and I can actually see what I'm accepting instead of just blindly accepting sometimes.
I always always do that.
Uber doesent like that!i do that last 2 years seems like uber doesent offer any better rides when turn off the request option.They are crazy.haha
This also helps make surge because you're off when you're driving a passenger. This is awesome and I've been doing it for many years no problems
@ladystormhealing its true if many drivers do the same than uber or algorithm doesent have many choices.but unfortunately many many new naive drivers do accept as couldn't see the navigation and after accepting they dont want to cancel the ride as they dont want loose their bonuses status which i never bothered! So a win gor uber at the moment till newbies understand or not that deliberate.....
I always call the passenger before arriving to let them know they can leave early as soon as I arrive. Most say they will leave early….therefore, very minimal wait time. I hate having to be online 40 minutes before a scheduled ride. Really is a waste of time to blow 30 minutes before a 10 minute ride to pickup location.
Decline all rides with stops.
And how u r supposed decline once the riders is inside your car? U don’t know there’s going to be 2 stops or more until u starting the ride.
Riders have gotten smart and add the stop one the ride has started.
Another one is choosing Quest. Once you pick a Quest you give Uber the power to control and manipulate you. Nowadays I don’t bother picking Quests since they have been essentially reduced to zero. Choosing a Quest is telling the algorithm to abuse you by giving you 3.75 rides since it knows you need a certain numbers of rides to complete the Quest.
I got an ev so I get 4.75
@@Okcdriverwatch their video that shows that EV drivers actually get .80 more instead of $1.00 more per ride.
@@Okcdriver 😂 allegedly 😂
Sounds like some Zelda type bull💩
I'll pick a quest, but I still don't hafta take the crap stuff. If I hit the bonus, I hit it. If not, oh well. They aren't gonna get me with that!
In short, select the high paying rides to maximize your hourly rate. Time is money.
But they gonna start sending you only cheapest one with bad rating riders trips requests only all day. 😂😂
If only it were that easy! You can take a ride that seems high paying and still be screwed. I took a ride that paid $33.71 for 22mi or so... guy paid 117.98 for the trip. For me, that was about $1.53/mi... good right? $33.71 for 40ish min of work, but overall that means Uber kept 72% while I got a measly 28% when I'm doing all the work and their system just pairs passengers with drivers. Not to mention, when I don't have any riders set up in my queue and the trip thing pops up... I'll select the ones I want, but then not get any of those, another ride will come direct to my phone and it'll be away from the surge area even though I choose rides that had surges attached. So... the ability to pick high paying rides isn't really there. I do cherry pick, I do take only rides that are above $1.00/mi and if I do a lot of driving... I generally make about $2k/wk. I prefer to stay busy and moving, knowing that I might have a small fish now, but I could be moving to an area where a whale is waiting that's also a tipper!
@@iwontbebeat7111 Simply turn off the phone, clear cache and data from the app. Log out then log in. See what happens.
@@EndingBigotry 2k/week is good money. In my market that is impossible to achieve unless you do 12 hrs/day/7 days/week.
@@ssunkite1 generally if I do things of 12s... I'll make 2300-2700 based on bonuses and tips. 2k or there abouts is from maybe 45-60hrs of driving. It's random, as we all know and is based on a large number of variables. I'm in a large city, large metro, with a lot of impoverished people and a lot of well off people enjoying their money. It's a good mix, honestly.
Forgot to mention the surge that every time I go there, surge is gone
I've learned that once I'm on a ride, I have to click "no new requests" so basically going offline. otherwise uber and lyft will sneak in a very lowball offer. Now that does mean I have wait time in-between each ride but I feel better that I've stopped them manipulating me in that way.
heartless companies!
Yuppp! Try to. Switch to black they log you out and require the. Full verification bullshit
You forgot how Uber hustles and removes you from a profitable area with short pick up distances and send you to unprofitable areas where every pick up is at least 15 minutes or more than 5 miles. They do it by starving you with small $4.59 fares and then showing you a $25 fare that will still take about an hour to complete to nowhere. Once there and an hour away from city center, you will be shuttling riders 15 to 20 minutes away and essentially losing money. In the past Uber used to pay for doing this manipulative technique by paying for completing 3 consecutive rides with the last one taking you to no man’s land. Now the algorithm just trick you and dump you in an area where you’re forced to offer losing rides.
Blew a gasket a month and a half ago. Went back to a W-2, 9 to 5, and getting an independent contractor remote customer service job
You're not burning up gas and killing your car. After the pandemic, Uber went downhill. Also, from you last video, they're stealing tips
Another class action is coming....
Uber didn't go downhill. It's just you people thought the economy would get bad, and while every other company on the planet increases their prices, for some ignore reason you guys thought Uber and Lyft would just lose money and keep paying you guys the same.
20k + rides here. I sold my car last week. Such a thankless job.
Jay, I have a pet peeve that has been going on with passengers. I often get people with walkers to and from doctor appointments. This I do not mind because the walkers fold up easily. BUT…I had 2 pick ups last week with people who were wheelchair bound. The first one, the woman had her daughter with her so she took care of getting her mother and the chair in my suv. The second was a man on his own. I refused to pick him up and canceled the ride saying “item’s would not fit”. We are not medical transport. This may not be Ubers fault but these doctors offices using Uber for wheelchair transport is wrong. Thoughts???
And if you get hurt on the job trying to physically load a passenger into your car, even knowing that the medical offices do not tip, you have no recourse for medical leave or Worker's Comp! But if you cancel this kind of ride, your cancellation rate is affected and you are PENALIZED! Foul Uber/Lyft/medical offices!!
@@robinrienerth6521 when I canceled it didn't affect my rate because I put in that their items wouldn't wouldn't fit it's also not our responsibility to transport patients and transfer them into our vehicle
Yeah, and if those rides are third party booked, by the doctor/clinic/hospital/etc. I guarantee you the doctor/clinic/hospital/etc. is billing the patient's insurance the max allowed.
In Arizona the transportation Company that had the medical transport contract with the state actually uses Uber to do the transport for most rides. What a joy to take methadone clinic and dialysis rides. One lady gamed the system to pick up her prescription at Walmart and bought a cart full of groceries that needed to be loaded and u loaded all for $4.
They bill the insurance $120 and then order Uber for $12. You get $4 for doing all the work.
I do food delivery for uber eats and uber is taking 50 60 up to 70 % base fare and making me go 3.5 4 5 miles and I'm noticing there algorithm is taking base fare as from tips meaning if I get a nice tip the base fare will be 30% to me and 70% to them
I'd argue that Lyft having Auto-Accept is manipulation, and I'm so glad they finally gave me the option to disable it, so I don't end up driving 70+ miles out of nowhere.
only problem is there are still rides that could be sent to another driver if they are closer than you, but you won't receive anything for your effort.
Uber and Lyft are masters at disrespecting both driver and riders time. Facts
Jay.. Uber has auto-accept. Sometimes Uber randomly turns it on, then I have to turn it off.
Had that mess off since the beginning , and then soon as lyft made that Option available I turned that mess off too😊
I Turn My Off
Not in every market. I don't have auto accept in Chicago. I wouldn't use it anyways.
When Uber switches you to that reserved ride and you had to wait for 30 minutes you should have turned on Lyft and taken a ride or two then come back to the reserved ride.
It’s not possible because Uber makes u be online 40 minutes before u start the reserve ride. It’s a bs.
Not enough rides in South Florida to be selective and unfortunately the rides they offer us are garbage!
Dont do the chart thing... it's always too hard to follow where youre going with it. I always turn off my app on each ride, because of your second point. I'd rather concentrate on my current ride and worry about the next one when I'm finished with the current one.
Check your app. When you log out during a ride I noticed your acceptance rate doesn't increase.
Something else that needs to be added. Twice, Lyft has done a bait and switch on me. I getna notification for a ride with a high dollar figure. After accepting it. That same ride(s) price drops. Initially it's subtle to the eyes. But it has happened. Take screen shots of your rides
This has happened to me on a lux ride with lyft.... changed 43.99 upfront price on a 2 mile ride during an event, to 19.99 +4 bonus due to longer than estimated (according to them). The ride was no different than the other rides of similar length. Thats what made me remember the original fare.
I complained, they played stupid.
Lyft just screwed me out of a reservation ride by giving the ride to someone else after I drove 17 miles and 25 minutes to pick up Allan and would not allow me to "Arrive," saying that I was too far away! And now Lyft has deleted the entire reservation from my app! They just keep getting worse, not better. If you have stock in Lyft, sell it fast!
They are a horribly run company. Don't get me started on their typical passengers either.
Lyft is the worst
Jay I agree 100% with what you said but in addition to making more money it's about being efficient too. With $5 a gallon gas price's some days where I make less money I actually nett more by taking rides that make more sense. Some small rides for $4 are ok if your driving a half mile away to drive someone 1 mile as opposed to driving 5 miles to drive somewhere 3 miles.
i try my best not to get screwed by these greed balls
The trouble is, many drivers out there are not intelligent enough to spot the low paying stuff and not accept it. They will simply accept it when they see it on their screen. We should work together and not ACCEPT THE LOW $$ offers they send us!! Please drivers dont work for peanuts or you will bring us all down, making us desperate and unber lift and bolt will love it.
I use an app called maxymo to auto reject trips that don't meet my standards. I make comparable money this way, but I put way less miles on my car.
Some of those people need rides some drivers regardless if the person is at there door they won't do a 5 $ trip but someone needs to get to work some people.need to get home from doctor office I'm pissed too but this kind of sounds greedy do you care about your customers at all there hands are in your lives.
I drive both at Disney in Orlando; I set a filter each to accept rides in a 5 mile circle on Disney property. Gives you the chance to get more rides which means better tips than just one tip on a long ride. Also keeps your driving area to a minimum so saves miles and gas. Take advantage of gas discounts. I’m a platinum driver and average .30 cents off per gallon which gives me a free tank of gas every 5th fill up. I average $30 an hour and drive 2/3 hours driving 50 miles a nite. Remember to also think outside the box…
Uber has an "auto-accept" option in my market (Tampa Bay). I've never turned it on, but it's there. For awhile we had the same problem with getting scheduled rides as a normal ping. There was nothing to tell you it was a scheduled ride until you arrived and that was usually 15-30+ minutes too early. They substantially fixed these issues now. The ping is clearly marked "scheduled ride" (so at least you know) and after you accept it, the little icon is different so you can tell, and you can immediately look at the trip details and the exact scheduled pick up time.
This is the messed up thing about it. If uber can give that information to drivers in my market, why can't they give to drivers in Jay's market?
it's not in my market either - Maryland.
In Chicago they lock you out of further reservations if you cancel them, even though they got you to accept like a normal ride using their dishonest tactics.
Im starting to wondif the algorithm punishes you for being more selective by not giving you more rides.
I seemed to have had a terrible dry spell whenever I choose not to accept rides in attempts to discriminate as you said.
Thos is actually the best video you ever produced in my opinion.
Guys would you drive more with Uber or Lyft for XL rides? I need recommendations
In Boston last winter I would get reserved rides for the next day. But I would have to look after 11 pm and these rides are always around 4 am to 6 am. Also ALWAYS to Logan Airport of course. Now nothing just what Jay said you don't know until you excepted the ride. I definitely make sure I let my passengers know that I just received the ride. Make them aware that RESERVATIONS mean nothing. I've also received many private clients this way and always a great tip!
The surge in the philly mkt is a joke anymore when your in a $5 surge zone and a 5 mile ride pops up for $5 all in why even drive in a surge zone?
What burns my ass is the trip notifications being shown in time as opposed to distance, the way Lyft does. A 15-minute trip in Toronto can mean 1 km in distance in rush hour traffic. a 45-minute trip can mean anything as well. But what's really ire-inflicting is the 1 + hour trips that can take you out of the city and preclude you from getting trips in that region. Decline a trip and you still get penalized from even getting to see trip notification information AT ALL. As a diamond driver, this is unconscionable to me and offends me no end. In Toronto, not only are you penalized for a high cancelation rate, but they get you on a low acceptance rate as well.
They do tell you if it was a reservation trip. It's on the bottom of the accept button.
I'm in Los Angeles, Uber does have an auto accept feature which I don't use because I wanna know what i accept. So I stop accepting request as soon as I accept one, then turn it on as soon as I'm done. But what are your thoughts on prop 22? Every two weeks I get anywhere between 150 and 300 dollars because I was underpaid apparently.
6:43 I don’t agree I think uber got it right, hate lyft’s “adding new rider to que”
The same is happening to my Uber account. They are sending me trash calls and taking money away thru the surges.
In my city they show “reservation “ in the bottom left corner when reserved ride comes through during a trip. A lot of these things are based on area. What is going on in one city is different in others as far as functions go.
What are your thoughts on declining a ride then your rating goes down faster than you can bring it back up.
Now , FUBER Los Angeles CA, only sends me $3 - $4 trips only all day with bad rating riders trip requests. After the expenses i make $6.50 an hour. 😂 Its Time to drive with local taxi cabs 😂
I would not have waited 25mins for the scheduled ride. In my market, it tells me when the rider needs to be picked up, so if its a good ride I can hop on Lyft to do a short ride and then head for the scheduled ride. You can also call the pax and ask them if they're ready, explain that waiting 25mins is a waste of time/money. 99% of the time, the rider is ready. Only 1x a rider wasn't ready but he tipped me $15 because I called and gave him the option of coming right away or waiting
That's exactly what I've learned to do. I don't even do those bonuses anymore, they're just a trick for you to pick up those micro rides. When you add a regular day up, of your selective rides, compared to picking up micro rides to get that 100 bonus, for picking up 60 rides, you'll still be way short of your regular selective ride day. Beware of those bonuses, they're just a waste of gas and no money.
Often Uber Eats offers $6 bonus every three deliveries completed.. so it seems that at least one request of every three is really low.. while you do get 2 more dollars per request when you complete a set of three only it no longer feels above and beyond .. one would need that bonus just to make what the usual
Agree 100%. I refuse to take that lowball offer. I’ve sacrificed the $6.00 intentionally because I refuse to take that $3.00 or $2.50 offer. I say “f*** you” to the phone screen and decline the request. I won’t play that stupid game.
The third one is always delayed and sends you as far away from where you want to. drive as possible...
On night aaaccepting streaks I ended up 3 1/2 hours from home...
Never again...put it on Black only and cherry pick
have two phones, Uber and Lyft. Reserve and airport reserves are the worst type. You lose money on reserve 1 hr prior and waiting (airport late flight are always delay).
Jay, regarding reserve rides, I don’t know about your market but when I get a notification for a reservation ride,it always says reservation. And the pick up times have always been within the arrival time.
I get them also in Phoenix. I arrive and then get notified I have to wait for the reservation.
Some markets are super slow and some drivers accept every ride because they may only get one off an hour and it may pay $4.59. In my market, the rides are unlimited. In 6 hours, I know I deny Over 60 bad offers and do 20.
It almost always great in the beginning but not for those who don't get in on the beginning. I got in 2018. I did experience the multiplier before they changed it. Started getting ripped off since late 2018. Could have made so much more back in 2016. But it wasn't my timeline to start. I can speak to how to make a lot of money. There are things I know that I haven't heard yet about how to make a lot of money especially in Nashville.
1000% correct. Lots of rides i do not take because of their manipulating system. SUCKS!! THEY BECAUSE THEIF NOW.
My Uber app does have auto accept option I use it all the time just like Lyfts option
In North Carolina uber only shows pickup location no drop off no rate. Which is a violation of FMCSA law.
How do we deal with the devil? It’s like if we become selective, every other driver thinking the same thing? So how many good offer is there going around? Plus the devil will punished the driver by ghost pausing, I think the only way to show them is to quit!
It boils down to this in Texas RGV market.... Minimum wage plus tips and 95% of people don't tip. No matter how clean and fresh my car and I are and how nice and accommodating I am only few people tip. FYI minimum wage is $7.25 in Texas
I definitely have been manipulated early today. Three high paying rides they gave to another driver.
its no such as high paying rides at all you kid youself
@airgap25 when you see $30 and not far, it is high compared to what they usually give out.
Lyft is notorious for this practice
@@frankelse745 this was Uber.
Great points. Ur the best man. Thanks 👍
I've often seen the notification thing as more of a benefit to riders, so that they'll at least have one person who could take their ride. Yeah, it sucks as a driver, since you never look at your phone for those until they are gone. But from the rider side, it's great for them since there'll be at least one driver who'll likely see their request. Some of these other things I never noticed, thanks for pointing them out.
Hey Jay .....should we be concerned about the acceptance rate if we are to be more selective about rides?
What I don't understand is why after 30 rides as a driver I don't get to see upfront fares before I accept
I have a couple of manipulations. One most people should know already is that if you take a small fair (for what ever reasons you have) the AI will give only small fairs until there isn't anyone around to take the good stuff.
And a new one with Uber Eats. A store owner told me about a new Uber policy to combat people sitting around where if you wait to long at a place for an order the system registers the driver as a bad match for the store and basically bans them from the store. This will reduce your pick up locations without notice. So if you're waiting to long, to avoid being banned you jave to cancel the order. That will still mess with your cancellation rating. It's a no win situation.
Does anyone have an idea how those algorithms work? How come I pick up the call and as soon as I pick up suddenly I receive a message” something went wrong”. This happens to me a lot and then I check my acceptance rate and it goes down like rain. Surreal! This is disgusting 😏
Excellent vid sir and thanks
One thing that I don't like is the difference between your app and my app. Uber doesn't auto-accept? A tiny notification? Not in my app. I believe that you don't have that. I do.
Hi Jay I agree with you and I found it hard to win against these companies I found a way to make them loose money after I complet a trip but that can only work one or two times a day, by the way things got worse for the drivers after Uber and Lyft went public,i try to limit how many trips i accept and i try to work when I'm short on cash and I also drive when there's a big event i avoid accepting long trips with my strategy i make at least $ 2.00 a mile.
So, what is this “way” you are talking about that can only work one or two times a day?
Yes, tell us! What's in the BOX!
Hello, I am brand new to lift and Uber and I’ll be working in the Saint Petersburg Clearwater area. I am being brand new. I don’t know if I’m supposed to drive around in a big circle and hoping to get close to a customer and get the get the fair or if I’m supposed to just sit somewhere and wait for thefor the ding and go get the fair. Can you please help me know how to do this, I would really appreciate it. I tried driving the other weekend and I just felt frustrated because I didn’t know where to go or what to do.
Regarding Uber No Auto Acceptance... Assisting with Luggage is a major culprit!
You can no longer cancel Lyft rides after the ride is auto accepted. You can but it will count against your cancel rate. This change happened in the Nashville market about 3 weeks ago.
Who cares
I'm sorry Jay but Lyft's auto-accept is the bane of rideshare driving. I'd be willing to bet that 99 times out of 100 the rides you auto-accepted are trash $2 - $4 rides you woulda/shoulda/coulda opted out of to begin with. By auto accepting you're now in the position of either taking that crap or cancelling and watching your cancellation rate climb to potential platform expelling amounts.
🎯 💯
Correction here. With Lyft, you can decline an auto accept any time you stop your vehicle, at a light, pull over, or when you drop off the current customer before you end the ride, and it is not a cancelation.
@@chiron3489Not any more. Lyft removed the button "decline"😁.
@@chiron3489Not any longer.
I ise the Uber GPS so I can see the next ride info.
What you are saying used to be true. It is much worse now as there are very few acceptable rides in my area.
Hi
Thanks for sharing. It is interesting.
I tried to apply for Uber with my 2022 Toyota 4 Runner. I was rejected because this type of vehicle is not accepted on Uber platform. Do you guys know anything about this? Thanks in advance
Here is something else happening while I wait on a rides… when I cancel a ride.. park somewhere “safe” and wait wait wait…🙄then I turn to a social media and what I notice they don’t send me anything.. it’s not like it was before.. before I could put my phone on low battery and surf the internet and still get rides, but now they say they can’t see my location… that’s a bunch of BS when they already know where I am at my phone is on.. and I have my location set to precise and sharing with them.
About 5am I canceled a reserved ride on lyft since it was surging. The ride was about $11. The same ride in the surge area came back shortly around $7.9ish. I am sure based on the addresses.
Lyft seems to love shaving fares if you have a sticky or are on a challenge. That's a pretty big haircut on that one.
Mr. Cradeur, your wisdom is Stupendously Admirable. Bravo ❤
Uber doesn't show me how much the rides pay upfront. I contacted them and they said they don't offer that in my area. I said well I would like to know how much it pays before I accept it or not. They didn't care.
Unfortunately, upfront fares are not available in all areas. I know this is frustrating.
@Therideshareguy is there anything I can do about them shaving time off of the rides since my pay is based off of time and distance? Will they adjust it or am I stuck just accepting whatever they it is.
It took me about a year to figure out the system when I started Uber about 4 years ago. Now I’m going through it all again. I don’t like A.I
😂 it's not AI. It's Pre set trip parameter filter by management. They can set what kind of trips only come thru to your app by those trip filter.
I have a 54% and 53% acceptance rate with Uber and Lyft respectively. Which I know they consider to be very low. Honestly, I'm surprised it's that high. I feel like I turn down 2 or 3 rides for every one that I accept. They have ZERO CONCERN for drivers making money. So, I'm pretty picky about the rides I accept. I believe that their algorithm actually rewards picky drivers, even though they strongly encourage drivers to accept every ride they are offered. And here's the thing... They are about customer satisfaction, even though they don't give a crap about drivers. So, if there is a customer that needs a ride and they know you are a picky driver, they will pay you whatever they think it's going to take to get you to accept that ride and take care of that customer. Today I got an offer for $18 that I accepted. In talking to the customer I found out he only paid $20 and change for the ride. So they paid me around 90% of that fare. Why? Because the algorithm has figured out that I look at the pickup distance and the drop off distance and I will not accept the ride if it's not profitable. So, they made me an offer that I couldn't refuse, to make sure the customer was taken care of.
Hi. I’m an Uber driver from Melbourne Australia. My account was deactivated without any fault of mine, the customer sitting on the back seat opened the door on to the cycle track. And Uber has deactivated my account saying I have voided the community guidelines. Is there any chance I can get my account back and drive again?? Pls advice. Thank you.
I only accept extremely high paying airport reservation orders, I've taken ones that were normally $30 for the distance and ended up with a reservation order for $80, it was a good deal to wait 30 minutes and get an extra $50. and cuz gave 20 tips BTW. 😁
Sound like Russian roulette to see if you're going to get tipped or bad ratings or a false complaint
Great video!!😎
There have been times I was called to a person and they are in another uber again you have to cancel and get that negative on your
I'm being manipulated by uber in usa Pennsylvania they are charging a rider for 20$ but giving driver $5 for the ride. They are litterly taking 75% here in Pa. I am litterly converting my uber riders to personal private riders now. It's business but I am slowly converting them now.
Or waiting for a scheduled ride that doesn't cancel or show up.
With Uber you have to check not only the hourly rate but also the earnings per mile - in about 5 seconds. It may be a good earnings per mile, but have stops that make the trip take too long. Or it might be a trip that takes you to an area that's not busy. I heavily use the last trip feature, especially when I anticipate that there will be surge near my destination. I also heavily use Lyft's area filter to keep me in the busier areas. You cannot rely on one app or the other. Incentives change week to week, and usually one i better than the other on any given week. If there are no incentives to work towards, then I will run both apps at the same time and take the best available trips. Given all the gimmicks they throw at you, I have primarily focused on earnings per mile. I make about the same per week as I did in 2019, but I am driving 300-400 miles less per week, and am in the car less. I don't have much tolerance for down time. I won't sit in my car for an hour doing only one short trip. I'd rather go home and do chores.
Yeah, I thought it was me crack it up but they do switch the rides I pick the ride that was a mile to pick up and a half mile drop off which turned into a mile to pick up and 28 miles to drop off and only paid $19 but I wanted to know if you select every job that pops up when you’re out there with Lyft or are you just criminate? Do you only except jobs that are over nine dollars or over eight dollars
Last night, I did Uber and Uber to keep busy eats as Tuesday is slow I git 3 orders in a row for eats drove 20 odd kms to find all 3 had closed?????.
Any way to avoid Share Rides on Uber?
Uber doesn't show us what we are making for a trip. All I see is length of trip and minutes to pickup. I have zero clue what I'm being paid until the trip is done. It's crazy! I'm averaging ( depending on tips) about $17-$20 an hour. I've been doing this for a year now.
And number 4, stop driving for them like I did.
Thanks that is so true.
Your a good person.
Guys - not sure how to reach you, but as of Thursday, I am no longer receiving up-front pricing and Uber has no real explanation as to why or how to fix it. I no longer see the ride distance, the signal of a multi-stop request, the price (or even an estimate) - and no ability to select anything to look up such info before accepting a ride. Making me quite concerned. Are others experiencing this?
In some cities, you may have to meet certain criteria for upfront pricing. Have you tried to contact support?
Good video to learn how to drive for Uber Eats, Doordash and other food delivery in South Africa , for new drivers to learn, drive and earn very good money. Thank you. Good luck with your youtube channel Brother. God bless you.❤️✌️👍💕🙏🙂😁
Thanks for watching!
I actually like that Uber doesn't automatically connect me with the next ride and let's me choose. I only do Uber anymore and this allows me to decide if I want to take it or not while I'm driving which often dictates where the current ride ends. In Nashville you often can't get the rider exactly where they want to be so I may drop them off on the opposite corner. Knowing ahead where I'm going next helps to maximize this.
I do agree with the last point regarding scheduled trips which I generally hate but I ALWAYS call every rider as soon as I show up and ESPECIALLY on scheduled trips for that reason. If they told me they were still going to be 25-30 minutes there is no way I would wait and I would explain to them I'm going to cancel and another driver will be along closer to their selected time. Why would you NOT call the rider and just sit there for 30 minutes??? Sorry, but that's just wasting your time. Often on scheduled trips the rider will be ready and able to leave early. Again, why I ALWAYS call...also let's them know I'm there and verifies I'm in the right spot
On the early scheduled UBER ride, text the passenger that you will be there at X amount of time, and then use that in-between time to gas up or pull over and get some shut eye for 25 minutes.
* The key thing is to make every ride a last ride in settings. It protects your rating and forces them [ The Lyft/Uber Driver Managers ] to play fair with you with offers.
Bottom line, None of these companies survive without good, reliable drivers.
Great Tip!
here is the trick of maximizing your profit of each trip, in another word de-converging their algorithm. you have to study your market and see the right point of inflection in terms of how many minutes the ride is far from you, never accept rides that are closer to you because that is where you loose money and they profit up to %60 of that specific ride. personally my threshold is 7 minutes, and that will keep their profit between 25%-30%. so imagine if all uber drivers pick rides in their market pick that are far by 7 minutes or so what will do to the algorithm.
Now I am mega selective!! Need file class action for not paying NOTHING FOR 0 Return drive of 150 miles!!!
I keep getting riders saying they'll tip me but they never do. Riders, don't tell the driver you'll rip because I know you won't. I'm tired of being taken advantage of
Text the forgot item...when they respond...text I know. You did not forget to tip me, because you're a great person and you said you'd tip me $20, but Lyft/Uber has been caught stealing our tips repeatedly....would you send me a screenshot of you receipt showing the tip so I can force them to pay me what you paid me...
I'd really appreciate it because $5 here and $20 here they steal in tips adds up to thousands over the year...
I’m confused because Uber auto expects all of my rides if I have auto except on? So that’s not true.
Prop 22 give you guarenty 19.20 hr plus. . 35 mile. Its averaged over 2 wks. If you earn less they give an adjustment. Ive never earned more than this minimum 19.20 because i get a adjustment every 2wks. Pay and bonus on each ride dosent mean a thing. Because a high paying ride will reduce your adjustment and you dont get any more for that ride. Its almost impossible to make over the prop 22 minimum.
Its the non active time that you get no pay for. Only accept rides to locations where you will get a quick new ride. And that keeps you where you want to go.