Interesting analysis. I do find that A1 users are more inclined to favor their A1 over the newer A9 III. I don’t blame them. It’s a built in bias. But I have met several A1 users who decided to get the A9 III who like shooting with it much more. I never had an A1 but have been shooting with the A9 III for over a month and absolutely love it. I did entertain the thought of the A1 because of the resolution argument but in the end decided I didn’t want to pay full price for technology over 4 years old. And as far as 120 for being overkill? Malarkey. Not in my case. It’s absolutely killer for shooting. Plus. You have the ability to choose your shot in camera, protect and delete the rest in your group bursts so no issues with tons of files to go through on your PC. Resolution? Easily addressed in post. A non issue. Negligible. If you want old get the A1. If you want the latest and greatest with the updated tech and AF get the A9 III. You won’t be disappointed. It’s a beast! 👍🏻. My humble opinion.
I do not believe that statement to be true, as I for one, would buy an A9iii if I thought it could add anything to my style of bird photography. It's not about bias, it's about facts - similar autofocus abilities and much better resolution at the end of the day on the A1, that's why I have 2, I could easily sell one and buy an A9iii, for example. If I needed the technology that the A9iii has, which would be on very rare occasions for me personally, I would rent one I think. I'm sure the A9iii is a great camera but not for me and many bird photographers photographing wild birds at distance mainly. I come from a many camera background, including the A9 & A9ii (in recent years), but previously Nikon and Canon back in the 1990 through to 2020. perhaps I would think differently about buying an A9iii if my wild birds were consistently close to my camera (not a fact generally in the UK despite fieldcraft skills built up over 40 years) and I had good light - that global shutter has introduced noisier images than the Sony A1. I do concede that many would counter by stating that you can use DXO and upsize software, that's true, so it's up to you as a photographer. Both Sony, both very good imo.
Thanks for the comments and discussions I disagree that it is bias. Many A1 users could own several bodies including a few A1's and a few A9 III's if they wish to. It does not need to be A1 or A9III. could be both. cost of one extra camera body is a drop in a bucket compared to the investment on lenses and other costs to create photographs that are worth anything, including travel. If you step up from an A7 to A9 III it will look amazing of course but it will look even more amazing if you step to an A1. But in some ways disappointing if you step from A1 to an A9 III. It sounds you have never owned an A1. The 9's 24 mega pixel sensor can be viewed as stepping 5-6 years back in time for some. you cannot increase resolution in post, you can enhance sharpness but you cannot somehow add details that were not there..... Perhaps you mean adding fake detail by AI software but creating detail that was not captured by the camera using AI software is plain cheating in my view and worthless in the eyes of most respected photographers, not to mention not accepted in any precocious peer-judged contest. resolution is determined by Nyqvist limit of the image sensor, no post processing....
@@ArashHazeghiI really enjoy your videos. In my case I also have the A7RV for resolution etc. I do a lot of my post with software that manages the issues addressed with the A9 III and it handles it beautifully and my intent was not to diss A1 users. I just could not see spending full price on a camera that was 4 years old. Plus I love the newer tech packs and form factor of the newer bodies. If Sony comes out with an A1 Mark II in the future I will probably get it as I have been in the Sony ecosystem for over 10 years and love all their lenses and products. I have had the A9 III for about 2 months now and absolutely love it! For those who have reservations about this camera because of resolution, ISO and DR the pluses of the global shutter and blazing speed make all of that neglible IMHO. Great comparison but like I said A1 users do have that built in bias. I know because I didn’t pull the trigger on an A1 and got an A7 IV instead and was treated like I had an inferior camera. Nobody likes that. So I say whatever you shoot it’s all good! Oh. And whatever a “respected” photographer is I respect my wife who shoots with an iPhone and gets amazing shots! And she likes my stuff which is all that matters. ☺️ Oh just a small plug for the A9 III. The AF blows away the A1. Especially in tandem with the new 300 GM. No comparison. That alone makes the A9 III IMO great for birds in flight and bird photography in general. That has been the general feedback from my longtime A1 user pals who have the A9 III also. 👍🏻 Also I think Sony had major issues with their firmware updates on the A1 which didn’t make many A1 users very happy. Oh and precapture in the A9 III is simply awesome! And so easy to use. You see? I have a built in bias for the A9 III! 😂 Oh and personally I never believe in “contests” per se. What’s the value? Nothing. If you love photography whatever you shoot and whatever you can afford is fine IMO. These video reviews are great. Don’t get me wrong but like you said each body has its strengths. That’s why I got the A7RV. For landscape. Portrait. Where maybe the detail and low light is more important. The A9 III for speed and capturing those shots that an A1 could never get. Just my HO. Thanks again for your detailed and informative videos. No disrespect intended. 🙏🏻
It seems to me you have never used A1. I have used both and as I said I find no difference in AF for birds in flight . So I disagree but only 100% as Artie would say ! But to each his own 😊 not to disrespect your friend but “blows out of the water”usually means user has no idea what they are talking about or they grossly exaggerating after a big purchase adrenaline
I believe you are not the target audience for the A9III. For hybrid work, the A9III features the best exposure latitude of any mirrorless. Additionally, the A9III features a global shutter, making it a great choice when working with LED panels, as most cameras produce artifacts when shooting in these environments. There is no crop at 120p. This is also a big plus for video work. It really contes down to what you are shooting. For birding clearly resolution and AF are the main concerns. That’s fine… that’s why Sony makes both.
that's right, my review is for bird and wildlife photography. For wildlife video the crop is actually a plus but for other work it could be a negative.
Great video, thank you. I cannot go back to 24mp, having used a couple of Sony A1 cameras now for my BIF work. I am sorry to A9iii owners, but I do not get this camera. I do not need 120 fps and pre capture is something that does not interest me one bit. I say this because I like to photograph the beauty of birds in flight, real flight, not taking off from a post. I appreciate that there are other uses for pre capture, but not for me. That then leaves you with a camera with 50% the pixels, poor low light performance and its cost. I shall keep going with my A1 cameras as they have given me work and output that I never thought possible 25 years ago. Richard Bedford, RSPB Agency Bird Photographer.
So, if sheer resolution and AF performance is key to your BIF then where would the A7RV stand in the mix? Also, whats your take on using Electronic shutter for your type of work?
unfortunately that camera is not suitable for critical BIF and action. To pursue action at long focal length a zero-lag blackout-free finder is a must, this is only possible with A1 and A9 series cameras with e-shutter that used is 100% of the time for BIF. in addition, the A7 series unfortunately has a slow readout speed causing significant rolling shutter effect with e shutter and a slow burst rate. the high ISO performance of that camera is not as good as either A1 or A9 series which can further limit action usage. The A7RIV is primarily a landscape and studio camera,.
@@ArashHazeghi By your metric the older A91 and A92 with stacked sensors and black out free EVF would also work? Albeit with the caveats you stated in your videos regarding resolution (24mp)?
Interesting analysis. I do find that A1 users are more inclined to favor their A1 over the newer A9 III. I don’t blame them. It’s a built in bias. But I have met several A1 users who decided to get the A9 III who like shooting with it much more. I never had an A1 but have been shooting with the A9 III for over a month and absolutely love it. I did entertain the thought of the A1 because of the resolution argument but in the end decided I didn’t want to pay full price for technology over 4 years old. And as far as 120 for being overkill? Malarkey. Not in my case. It’s absolutely killer for shooting. Plus. You have the ability to choose your shot in camera, protect and delete the rest in your group bursts so no issues with tons of files to go through on your PC. Resolution? Easily addressed in post. A non issue. Negligible. If you want old get the A1. If you want the latest and greatest with the updated tech and AF get the A9 III. You won’t be disappointed. It’s a beast! 👍🏻. My humble opinion.
I do not believe that statement to be true, as I for one, would buy an A9iii if I thought it could add anything to my style of bird photography. It's not about bias, it's about facts - similar autofocus abilities and much better resolution at the end of the day on the A1, that's why I have 2, I could easily sell one and buy an A9iii, for example. If I needed the technology that the A9iii has, which would be on very rare occasions for me personally, I would rent one I think. I'm sure the A9iii is a great camera but not for me and many bird photographers photographing wild birds at distance mainly. I come from a many camera background, including the A9 & A9ii (in recent years), but previously Nikon and Canon back in the 1990 through to 2020. perhaps I would think differently about buying an A9iii if my wild birds were consistently close to my camera (not a fact generally in the UK despite fieldcraft skills built up over 40 years) and I had good light - that global shutter has introduced noisier images than the Sony A1. I do concede that many would counter by stating that you can use DXO and upsize software, that's true, so it's up to you as a photographer. Both Sony, both very good imo.
Thanks for the comments and discussions
I disagree that it is bias. Many A1 users could own several bodies including a few A1's and a few A9 III's if they wish to. It does not need to be A1 or A9III. could be both. cost of one extra camera body is a drop in a bucket compared to the investment on lenses and other costs to create photographs that are worth anything, including travel.
If you step up from an A7 to A9 III it will look amazing of course but it will look even more amazing if you step to an A1. But in some ways disappointing if you step from A1 to an A9 III. It sounds you have never owned an A1. The 9's 24 mega pixel sensor can be viewed as stepping 5-6 years back in time for some.
you cannot increase resolution in post, you can enhance sharpness but you cannot somehow add details that were not there..... Perhaps you mean adding fake detail by AI software but creating detail that was not captured by the camera using AI software is plain cheating in my view and worthless in the eyes of most respected photographers, not to mention not accepted in any precocious peer-judged contest. resolution is determined by Nyqvist limit of the image sensor, no post processing....
Guys 6 more months let's wait for A1 ii
@@ArashHazeghiI really enjoy your videos. In my case I also have the A7RV for resolution etc. I do a lot of my post with software that manages the issues addressed with the A9 III and it handles it beautifully and my intent was not to diss A1 users. I just could not see spending full price on a camera that was 4 years old. Plus I love the newer tech packs and form factor of the newer bodies. If Sony comes out with an A1 Mark II in the future I will probably get it as I have been in the Sony ecosystem for over 10 years and love all their lenses and products. I have had the A9 III for about 2 months now and absolutely love it! For those who have reservations about this camera because of resolution, ISO and DR the pluses of the global shutter and blazing speed make all of that neglible IMHO. Great comparison but like I said A1 users do have that built in bias. I know because I didn’t pull the trigger on an A1 and got an A7 IV instead and was treated like I had an inferior camera. Nobody likes that. So I say whatever you shoot it’s all good! Oh. And whatever a “respected” photographer is I respect my wife who shoots with an iPhone and gets amazing shots! And she likes my stuff which is all that matters. ☺️ Oh just a small plug for the A9 III. The AF blows away the A1. Especially in tandem with the new 300 GM. No comparison. That alone makes the A9 III IMO great for birds in flight and bird photography in general. That has been the general feedback from my longtime A1 user pals who have the A9 III also. 👍🏻 Also I think Sony had major issues with their firmware updates on the A1 which didn’t make many A1 users very happy. Oh and precapture in the A9 III is simply awesome! And so easy to use. You see? I have a built in bias for the A9 III! 😂 Oh and personally I never believe in “contests” per se. What’s the value? Nothing. If you love photography whatever you shoot and whatever you can afford is fine IMO. These video reviews are great. Don’t get me wrong but like you said each body has its strengths. That’s why I got the A7RV. For landscape. Portrait. Where maybe the detail and low light is more important. The A9 III for speed and capturing those shots that an A1 could never get. Just my HO. Thanks again for your detailed and informative videos. No disrespect intended. 🙏🏻
It seems to me you have never used A1. I have used both and as I said I find no difference in AF for birds in flight . So I disagree but only 100% as Artie would say ! But to each his own 😊 not to disrespect your friend but “blows out of the water”usually means user has no idea what they are talking about or they grossly exaggerating after a big purchase adrenaline
u nailed it
I’m using the Fuji xt4 for indoor video / photos what would you recommend I upgrade to?
it would depend on what you like to photography. the Fuji is a capable camera unless you like to shoot specialized subjects
great vid, thx
I believe you are not the target audience for the A9III. For hybrid work, the A9III features the best exposure latitude of any mirrorless. Additionally, the A9III features a global shutter, making it a great choice when working with LED panels, as most cameras produce artifacts when shooting in these environments. There is no crop at 120p. This is also a big plus for video work. It really contes down to what you are shooting. For birding clearly resolution and AF are the main concerns. That’s fine… that’s why Sony makes both.
that's right, my review is for bird and wildlife photography. For wildlife video the crop is actually a plus but for other work it could be a negative.
I should imagine for sports photographers also, this is a very compelling camera.
Great video, thank you. I cannot go back to 24mp, having used a couple of Sony A1 cameras now for my BIF work. I am sorry to A9iii owners, but I do not get this camera. I do not need 120 fps and pre capture is something that does not interest me one bit. I say this because I like to photograph the beauty of birds in flight, real flight, not taking off from a post. I appreciate that there are other uses for pre capture, but not for me. That then leaves you with a camera with 50% the pixels, poor low light performance and its cost. I shall keep going with my A1 cameras as they have given me work and output that I never thought possible 25 years ago. Richard Bedford, RSPB Agency Bird Photographer.
@@RichardBedford-p3q let's wait for A1 ii
Gracias, realmente no estoy ni cerca de comprar una de estás cámaras, pero es bueno saber de que son capaces. :)
Gracias
So, if sheer resolution and AF performance is key to your BIF then where would the A7RV stand in the mix? Also, whats your take on using Electronic shutter for your type of work?
unfortunately that camera is not suitable for critical BIF and action. To pursue action at long focal length a zero-lag blackout-free finder is a must, this is only possible with A1 and A9 series cameras with e-shutter that used is 100% of the time for BIF. in addition, the A7 series unfortunately has a slow readout speed causing significant rolling shutter effect with e shutter and a slow burst rate. the high ISO performance of that camera is not as good as either A1 or A9 series which can further limit action usage. The A7RIV is primarily a landscape and studio camera,.
@@ArashHazeghi By your metric the older A91 and A92 with stacked sensors and black out free EVF would also work? Albeit with the caveats you stated in your videos regarding resolution (24mp)?
@@sumitinoyes correct. Both A9 and A9 II work well for BIF. A9 II was my first Sony camera, you can find my review on my blog as well as many images.