Bill and Andrew Probert are still definitely my favorite ship designers. So much thought and nuance goes into their design, and it always shows. And I totally agree with Bill that the impulse crystal/warp governor being in a square hole totally doesn’t fit with the shape language of the ship!
The one thing I notice more than anything amongst the ship designers (Bill, Doug, and so forth), is the crazy amount I respect and humbleness they share among each other! I know lots of car designers as well as electronics designers that can never agree on the exterior aesthetics and so forth. And if it's a hit, oh it's mine it's mine not his and if it's a miss, that was his design....😅 It's definitely not that way in the Star Trek universe at least that is how it's received by me and a lot of others. Mr. Bill Krause, thank you for all you do and are going to do for your fans!
Super nice guy and a very talented model builder! This ship looks great, and in era. My only reservation is overly complicated nacelles. Throughout trek from TOS through the Enterprise E, nacelles are pretty simple, functional looking, fuss-free shapes. These have a lot of asymmetrical openings and changes in diametre and "stepped" shapes that seem to have no function, and hurt the flow imo. They look pretty alien, compared to designs that came before. But overall, the excellence of the rest helps mitigate the fussy nacelles, and I am so glad his designs were used and incorporated into Trek. Such an improvement. The G is way out of it's time, would have been a great A, but still, a beautiful design.
I like the ship. (I know the comment about you either love or hate it, but I just have a nice liking to it.) It's nice to see how the designers (and S3 is blessed with good designers with good ideas) designed their ships given the time constraints of the series.
Great to see Bill again! Love all his ships all the way back to the late 80's! I will be doing the USS Wasp master CGI schematic this next week, maybe we can coordinate, huh? Fun nice episode!💯
That has to be fun, to be the fan that designed the hornet class ship, to have it picked up by designers working for the shows and then ultimately see it (hopefully on a fancy 60" OLED) in all her glory on screen, obviously upgraded and tweaked but having your original design come to life like that. A pursuit ship, wow. How obviously designed for such a purpose! I wonder how alien (non-earth human) biology reacts to earth hornet stings. What if it is a legendary deadly animal, barely survivable by earth humans with centuries to develop immunity/defense against the potent toxins.
I would like to see a shorter but beefier version of it in the same era, where the pylons swoop forward and the nacelles coming over the saucer (with the cutout like earlier versions, or the Titan) a little, almost like a Bird of Prey in profile.
To be honest, I wouldv preferred this as the Enterprise-G. Im flying this in STO, just wish it wasnt primarily science-based... great looking ship, but Id change the nacelles.
To me the USS Intrepid does not make enough sense. Why has it the same warp nacelle casing like the Neo-Consitution that houses old Luna class warp coils? Also the registry is so low. This would have been a replacement to the Intrepid class prototype ordered from the shipyards as early as around 2380
Your first mistake was expecting any sense from a Bill Krause “design”. All he does is copy old TOS movie era designs without understanding their purpose or artistry then pastes them onto his own junkers.
@@ReelMeurik Ah yes because of course I should demonstrate some modelling work to critique an obvious talentless hack. Oh wait. That's not how it works. And the very fact that you have to resort to that excuse proves my point.
This may apply to Zephyr's response as well. You've missed something. The design of the Chaparral is Bill's design. But, as was the case with the Titan/Enterprise, Production had other requirements. Doug Drexler no doubt would have added the New nacelles to honour visual consistency. That's a production decision. To my mind, these new nacelles could be configured to handle older tech to upgrade older designs to the latest standards.
hate to go off topic but does anyone else find the stargate promethius scaling they give incorrect. I took screenshots and then used the numbers stated to make sure they had the right proportions but it always distorts the screenshot in a obviusly wrong way, i think the height might be wrong, anyone else attempted to scale the 303 with trekyards numbers? did i mess up or what? need help as trying to make a layout to plan out some SG tabletop wargame ships but proportions are messed up for me!
I thought the the durtastat aka paicards intrepid class looks like a tmp to st6u type 1 hand phasee pistat with warp nacelles and tng type 2 dustbuster phaser and excelsior neck grills
I think Discovery ( Not a very good trek series ) did something cool by putting the bridge below the saucer....on that one ship. The bridge on top is an easy target.
Why? In space, the bottom IS the top, if you approach at 180 degrees lol. In other words, there is no up or down in space, for "protection" I can understand the logic of having it buried in the middle of the hull, like the Battle Bridge, but if deflectors and shields are working, the bridge is just as well protected as the engineering section "down" in the secondary hull, as demonstrated in Wrath of Khan.
Why did you have to add that little snippet of it “not being a very good series”? If you’re going to do that then add the phrase in my opinion with it. In my opinion that wasn’t relevant nor necessary to the context of your comment, but then again just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
Bill and Andrew Probert are still definitely my favorite ship designers. So much thought and nuance goes into their design, and it always shows.
And I totally agree with Bill that the impulse crystal/warp governor being in a square hole totally doesn’t fit with the shape language of the ship!
The one thing I notice more than anything amongst the ship designers (Bill, Doug, and so forth), is the crazy amount I respect and humbleness they share among each other!
I know lots of car designers as well as electronics designers that can never agree on the exterior aesthetics and so forth. And if it's a hit, oh it's mine it's mine not his and if it's a miss, that was his design....😅
It's definitely not that way in the Star Trek universe at least that is how it's received by me and a lot of others.
Mr. Bill Krause, thank you for all you do and are going to do for your fans!
Great ep. Thanks, guys for contacting Admiral Krause from the Star Fleet design bureau.
One of my newest starship design obsessions! Cannot wait to hear the behind the scenes for the creation of this style of starship! 🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽
Love the "Outro" on this. Awesome models and ships.
Super nice guy and a very talented model builder!
This ship looks great, and in era.
My only reservation is overly complicated nacelles.
Throughout trek from TOS through the Enterprise E, nacelles are pretty simple, functional looking, fuss-free shapes.
These have a lot of asymmetrical openings and changes in diametre and "stepped" shapes that seem to have no function, and hurt the flow imo.
They look pretty alien, compared to designs that came before.
But overall, the excellence of the rest helps mitigate the fussy nacelles, and I am so glad his designs were used and incorporated into Trek. Such an improvement.
The G is way out of it's time, would have been a great A, but still, a beautiful design.
My thought on the nacelles is it's a way of avoiding the damage to subspace at warp.
I like the ship. (I know the comment about you either love or hate it, but I just have a nice liking to it.) It's nice to see how the designers (and S3 is blessed with good designers with good ideas) designed their ships given the time constraints of the series.
Bill is an incredibly skilled model maker. He also has a great eye for detail ❤
Great to see Bill again! Love all his ships all the way back to the late 80's! I will be doing the USS Wasp master CGI schematic this next week, maybe we can coordinate, huh? Fun nice episode!💯
Some of the best designs ever 👍
Oh, the Chaperral is awesome 👌 the organic language works well. 💪 the Dudderstadt rising after it was 'bitten' looked incredible.
Love that ship
My favourite new ship design for NU TREK...along with the Excelsior 2
Playing with those starships in Star Trek Online feels... AWESOME!
Never watch anything live on youtube. Love it this way, so I can fast forward through the B.S. ( No...Trekyards is Awesome )
That has to be fun, to be the fan that designed the hornet class ship, to have it picked up by designers working for the shows and then ultimately see it (hopefully on a fancy 60" OLED) in all her glory on screen, obviously upgraded and tweaked but having your original design come to life like that. A pursuit ship, wow. How obviously designed for such a purpose! I wonder how alien (non-earth human) biology reacts to earth hornet stings. What if it is a legendary deadly animal, barely survivable by earth humans with centuries to develop immunity/defense against the potent toxins.
I just love how threatening this design is
Ahh thanks also for explaining what "Governors" are 😊 I had heard them before, but wondered if the were functional different from impulse crystals.
Awesome episode!
Thanks guys!
By 2400 amd 2401 how coming were wer phaser turrets were expecially with the defiand class pulse phaser being adapted for larger ship?
Just at random, I thought it was another Constitution-III when it warped in.
I would like to see a shorter but beefier version of it in the same era, where the pylons swoop forward and the nacelles coming over the saucer (with the cutout like earlier versions, or the Titan) a little, almost like a Bird of Prey in profile.
I would’ve preferred if it had those sovereign style nacelles over the Picard ones
Awesome video today
To be honest, I wouldv preferred this as the Enterprise-G. Im flying this in STO, just wish it wasnt primarily science-based... great looking ship, but Id change the nacelles.
Hit that like button!
Will you cover the Grissom Class Light Science Vessel from Star Trek Online next, please?
Cant say next :) we have other episodez filmed.
Cant say we have the grissom ink the bank of things we can look at, at the moment anyway
@power543 Appreciate you taking the time responding. Loving your content👍
amazing design but go do i hate that underslung secondary hull....
To me the USS Intrepid does not make enough sense. Why has it the same warp nacelle casing like the Neo-Consitution that houses old Luna class warp coils?
Also the registry is so low. This would have been a replacement to the Intrepid class prototype ordered from the shipyards as early as around 2380
Your first mistake was expecting any sense from a Bill Krause “design”.
All he does is copy old TOS movie era designs without understanding their purpose or artistry then pastes them onto his own junkers.
@@zephyr8072 Love to see some of YOUR work, considering how awesome you seem to be, based on your extremely biased and negative comment about Krause.
@@ReelMeurik Ah yes because of course I should demonstrate some modelling work to critique an obvious talentless hack.
Oh wait. That's not how it works.
And the very fact that you have to resort to that excuse proves my point.
This may apply to Zephyr's response as well. You've missed something. The design of the Chaparral is Bill's design. But, as was the case with the Titan/Enterprise, Production had other requirements. Doug Drexler no doubt would have added the New nacelles to honour visual consistency. That's a production decision. To my mind, these new nacelles could be configured to handle older tech to upgrade older designs to the latest standards.
As Sean Hargreaves would call it. "Design By Committee"
hate to go off topic but does anyone else find the stargate promethius scaling they give incorrect.
I took screenshots and then used the numbers stated to make sure they had the right proportions but it always distorts the screenshot in a obviusly wrong way,
i think the height might be wrong,
anyone else attempted to scale the 303 with trekyards numbers?
did i mess up or what?
need help as trying to make a layout to plan out some SG tabletop wargame ships but proportions are messed up for me!
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I thought the the durtastat aka paicards intrepid class looks like a tmp to st6u type 1 hand phasee pistat with warp nacelles and tng type 2 dustbuster phaser and excelsior neck grills
I think Discovery ( Not a very good trek series ) did something cool by putting the bridge below the saucer....on that one ship. The bridge on top is an easy target.
Why? In space, the bottom IS the top, if you approach at 180 degrees lol.
In other words, there is no up or down in space, for "protection" I can understand the logic of having it buried in the middle of the hull, like the Battle Bridge, but if deflectors and shields are working, the bridge is just as well protected as the engineering section "down" in the secondary hull, as demonstrated in Wrath of Khan.
In Star Trek if your shield go down, you are screwed anyway, no matter where the bridge is.
actually the bridge is on top so its more shielded from reentry & crash landings in emergencies,
so bridge crew might die on that ship then.
I mean if trek made any sense, the bridge would be as far in as possible
Why did you have to add that little snippet of it “not being a very good series”? If you’re going to do that then add the phrase in my opinion with it. In my opinion that wasn’t relevant nor necessary to the context of your comment, but then again just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
The secondary hull looks like the bottom of a golf club.