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    00:00 - 00:29 - Introduction
    00:30 - 01:09 - Musical Examples
    01:10 - 02:52 - Current Drama
    02:53 - 04:32 - Legal Eagle's Advice
    04:44 - 05:29 - Let's Continue
    05:30 - 06:29 - Icons
    06:30 - 10:49 - Taylor Swift
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Комментарии • 906

  • @JasonKnowsPodcast
    @JasonKnowsPodcast 2 года назад +44

    You know how smart you are; you scare me! So on target with niche topic, celebrity storyline; personal reflection, and guest tie in with another of my favorite YT personalities! You are hitting all cylinders with this one! The Amazing Mary Spender!!!

  • @DiegoSita
    @DiegoSita Год назад +22

    THIS! My ex broke up with me 18 months ago. Since then I wrote an entire album which I believe it's the best work I've done so far. It still need a lot of tweaking but the overall ideas are make me finaly feel proud of myself. I always used to say the best songs are the ones written when the artists are sad, especially when heartbroken.

  • @benboo6351
    @benboo6351 2 года назад +28

    On a different note, Laura Marling gave co writer credits to her partner because she used a chord progression that he'd practiced over and over

  • @cloudsanddoubt
    @cloudsanddoubt 2 года назад +30

    Got the Legal Eagle in!!
    Heartbreak is so universal, it's why I think songs like this resonate. I like it when they're more ubiquitous, and speak to feelings in your life :)

  • @JochenVogel
    @JochenVogel 2 года назад +118

    "I'll never date a musician!" I've heard that so often and even said it myself occasionally. And now I spend my life with a wonderful musician, who is definitely at least of equal talent; and I wouldn't want it any other way. We have even recorded two CDs together as "The BirdHouse".
    In my wilder days I did dedicate quite a few songs to my ex-partners, but I wrote them as instrumentals. That helps avoiding the above-mentioned issues. ;-)

    • @frankshailes3205
      @frankshailes3205 2 года назад +4

      Next best thing, date a drummer: the musician's best friend (or just someone who hangs around with musicians, according to some)...

    • @bulltastik
      @bulltastik 2 года назад

      Good one👍🏼

    • @vetlerradio
      @vetlerradio 2 года назад +8

      @@frankshailes3205 It's a weird saying though, most drummers I know can play at least 4 instruments (voice being an instrument).

    • @weehudyy
      @weehudyy 2 года назад +9

      @@vetlerradio Yep , I have always been a singing drummer , I play the ukulele well enough to teach teenage schoolgirls , and busk ... I am a bad guitarist and bass player , love my piano ( which is after all , a percussion instrument ) I have a couple of fine arts degrees too ... but yeah ... drummers . One thing I will say is most people don't notice a good drummer but they sure as hell know when there is a bad one .

    • @frankshailes3205
      @frankshailes3205 2 года назад +2

      @@vetlerradio Yes, it's a bad joke. That's probably a big part of the joke itself.

  • @toneshepherd8300
    @toneshepherd8300 Год назад +15

    In my approach, despite the hurt I experienced from my ex's "parting", I wrote songs about her strong points and the good times of the relationship rather than the hurt. Also, being somewhat obscure with the lyrics is like a privacy gate to me, the words could be interpreted in so many ways rather than making blatant clues... bad or good relationship, the relationship always started out beautifully, and it is the beautiful parts I keep for inspiration.

  • @shaigluskin1225
    @shaigluskin1225 2 года назад +34

    Beautifully coherent video that covers a lot of ground while also being personal. Well done Mary Spender!

  • @hulkslayer626
    @hulkslayer626 2 года назад +24

    Really really like the whole vibe of this video with the piano. And also really love when 2 RUclipsrs I watch randomly do a collab 😁 Especially 2 you wouldn't expect to cross paths

  • @richegyud5419
    @richegyud5419 2 года назад +27

    This was great! I really enjoyed the style, the little stories, the minimalist piano music in the background, cutting the video back to the piano occasionally. More like this please.

  • @courtclimbs
    @courtclimbs 2 года назад +4

    The subtlety in this video is amazing.

  • @j_yh
    @j_yh 2 года назад +96

    What a wonderful topic and brilliant execution. There’s probably a lot more that could be said on this and many many more examples. Perhaps someday you can do a part two. Thank you.

    • @robcunningham8908
      @robcunningham8908 2 года назад +3

      Yes please - this was fantastic!

    • @77chickox
      @77chickox Год назад +2

      Excellent description of the topic and well delivered. In other words good song writing and well sung.

  • @fred993a
    @fred993a 2 года назад +8

    Mary - This is your most intellectually brilliant video. Much of the greatest modern music is about the high and low of love!

  • @rbryanhull
    @rbryanhull Год назад +5

    Your videos are so calm and soothing. Your voice sounds so safe and kind. Thank you for sometimes being a part of my self-care routine.

  • @blakewilliams3702
    @blakewilliams3702 2 года назад +5

    One of your BEST videos. Thank you. And thank you for adding me to your guitar stories 18 months ago. That video was brought up at my uncle’s funeral. You’re the best. Thank you.

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge 2 года назад +4

    When two people I subscribe to suddenly collab out of the blue ... always a delight.

  • @DukeOfTwist
    @DukeOfTwist 2 года назад +59

    “In The Air Tonight” by Phil Collins immediately comes to mind. Must be hard for him to relive the emotion of that in every performance.

    • @sapsfm
      @sapsfm 2 года назад +5

      Especially with the cans of paint on display with every performance at that time. Kudos to him for the mastery of unsubtle digs.

    • @aburrows2008
      @aburrows2008 2 года назад +8

      I Don't Care Anymore is an even better example of emotion by Phil Collins

    • @jerrypeal653
      @jerrypeal653 Год назад

      All the way to the bank .

    • @stevem-h3562
      @stevem-h3562 Год назад

      If you think that one is raw, take a look at the Classic Albums footage of him trying to play a song which didnt even end up on Face Value, but did end up on Genesis' Duke album, namely Please Dont Ask.
      That was decades after and it was still obviously raw. He couldnt finish it. You can see it in his face.

    • @dominantprime
      @dominantprime Год назад +1

      @@aburrows2008 yep some of the live performances of 'I Don't Care Anymore' I've seen, he really builds up the emotion through the song until it explodes into rage in the end, gives me chills.

  • @elderhiker7787
    @elderhiker7787 2 года назад +7

    Excellent video, Mary. I’m one of those guys who is clueless. You explained the relationship connections of songs that I sung along to years ago and, of course, was totally unaware of their real-life implications. Of course, everybody was aware of the Warren Beatty connection in Carly Simons song, but going back in music history, the songs of Hank Williams were certainly a reflection of his emotional tribulations. But, again, this was a great video on your part. Great insights.

  • @yacht199
    @yacht199 2 года назад +16

    really a big fan of the piano piece played here in the background...hope you continue to show us your talents on the keys. Additionally the storytelling here was quite good. Loved the introspective cuts interspersed.

    • @pendrew
      @pendrew 2 года назад

      I am wondering what that piece was as well. Beautiful

    • @12LongShot
      @12LongShot 2 года назад +1

      @@pendrew I believe the artist is David Nevue. He has a lot of beautiful solo piano albums.

    • @pendrew
      @pendrew 2 года назад

      @@12LongShot thank you

  • @quailstudios
    @quailstudios Год назад +2

    Unrequited love is my favorite theme. There’s something about loving someone who doesn’t love you back that is bitter sweet.

  • @edphaze6550
    @edphaze6550 2 года назад +2

    Looking forward to the new album, Mary! And, I wish you well.

  • @anthonystevens8683
    @anthonystevens8683 2 года назад +6

    Very well done Mary. In these days of (anti) social media there is no stopping some laundry being aired. As a singer songwriter/ actor/ actress/ or any celebrity the general media will explode on anything even with the slightest vague implication of scandal rarely being held accountable for the results. My rule of thumb is date someone who is different from your professional self and you'll have so much more to share and grow.

  • @borderlineguitarguy
    @borderlineguitarguy 2 года назад +6

    At the beginning of movies based on a true story you see the disclaimer: The following events are based on a true story. The names and locations have been changed to protect their identities. It also protects the writers from legal action. As a writer you have artistic license. No one knows what is in your head or what your intent is. People csn assume all they want but unless you specifically use someones name or likeness they will never have a case. Disguise it as a good writer should and you will always be safe from legal action. That being said, anyone can sue anybody for anything. It's up to a judge to decide if it's worthy of a court hearing.

  • @scottmcbride5514
    @scottmcbride5514 2 года назад +2

    Well done, learned some new things, and love the alter ego just noodling on the piano...

  • @familycraftdad
    @familycraftdad Год назад

    Love how you tied the background music to the flow of the foreground content! The moments of you commenting from the piano as you were playing really tied in the whole thing perfectly. Well well thought out video, color me impressed!

  • @xicanttl
    @xicanttl 2 года назад +4

    Mary, you are so cool! First, the topic is pretty interesting but bringing in the Legal Eagle is also a pretty cool collab like many of your musical collabs. Great historical background that some of us 67 year old guys remember. Thanks

  • @andrewmize823
    @andrewmize823 Год назад +6

    There's a line in a White Stripes song that goes something like "make sure you never do it with a singer, 'cause he'll tell everyone in the world what he was thinking about the girl." I think that goes double for famous singers with highly publicized breakups.

  • @BSPIVEY100
    @BSPIVEY100 Год назад +2

    Mary,
    I'm not sure what I enjoy more. Listening to your music or your insights on life and the music industry. Keep them coming. These are great.

  • @jammergreg
    @jammergreg 2 года назад

    Great post. Your are heading in the right direction. Love your writing, singing and playing…and easy on the eyes.

  • @epoch71
    @epoch71 2 года назад +3

    Song For Whoever by Beautiful South comes to mind, as a somewhat different take on the songwriter/ex situation.

  • @JamesPorter
    @JamesPorter 2 года назад +9

    Wow, this is a really good insight into emotion in songwriting. I do remember hearing something about Adele writing at her best after heartbreak or drama, but it's amazing to see how it can also play out in social media too. The legal implications of this is also quite fascinating, I can imagine that even truths about someone could hurt another person if it's not written anonymously. I'd prefer to take your stance of trying to keep it low key for any interpretation.
    I have played guitar for nearly 20 years, written songs but never written lyrics. However, I recently had a relatively brief but simply perfect time with someone who I'll never see again, and the following heartbreak actually made me write a song about that time. It's not great, but I wrote it in such a short time because I felt my feelings were just fuelling my writing. It was surreal. And I totally get it now especially with context from this video. So thanks I guess ☺️

  • @stickman55100
    @stickman55100 2 года назад

    Can’t wait to hear and download your new Album. Love your RUclips posts.

  • @davemcginn3794
    @davemcginn3794 2 года назад

    Excellent piece Mary. I think it's part of the pleasure as a listener to assume meaning or understanding of lyrics and empathise with the singer songwriter, your song "Amy" being a really beautiful example

  • @narglefargle
    @narglefargle 2 года назад +3

    I totally understand this. A recent bad breakup cured my years-long writer's block, and now I hope to record an EP by the end of the year. Catharsis feels nice sometimes...but like you said, sometimes it's best to sit on those songs before entering the studio.

  • @michaelenosmusic
    @michaelenosmusic 2 года назад +75

    I remember the story back when Matchbox Twenty had a hit with Push that Rob Thomas' Ex girlfriend had the audacity to try to sue him for a writing credit because he wrote of his poor treatment by her.

    • @DeeEllEff
      @DeeEllEff 2 года назад +8

      Good Lord. That suit got tossed out, I hope (and presume)?

    • @patrickmckibben1932
      @patrickmckibben1932 2 года назад +3

      I remember that. It made me chuckle a little. Because… how fitting, right? Poor guy and his abusive ex. He never said her by name so there really wasn’t any likeness rights. I don’t believe she got a red cent from that case, but I don’t remember how far that went.

    • @ajhieb
      @ajhieb 2 года назад +12

      There was also so mild controversy over the song because some people misunderstood the lyrics. They assumed that _he_ was pushing _her_ around and they assumed this was "glorifying" physical abuse / domestic violence. That's fine. Mistakes happen. People misinterpret things. But some of the folks, upon being corrected _by Rob_ doubled down and insisted they knew better than him what his lyrics were about. Truly a fascinating case study into how one can get so involved with a cause that they end up seeing the world with blinders on.

    • @breifne555
      @breifne555 Год назад +1

      Yep..I got a legal letter ref a claim on writing points from an ex and her sister. My defence was it was her mother. True story.

    • @drdre4397
      @drdre4397 Год назад

      @@ajhieb well said.

  • @stevep2430
    @stevep2430 2 года назад

    Loved that piano piece you are playing there Mary.

  • @Just_Me_TG
    @Just_Me_TG 2 года назад +1

    To me this is one of the most interesting, intriguing and captivating films you have made. I want to watch it again. Thank you! I'd love to see another one of that kind!

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney 2 года назад +3

    Great video. I'm a big Legal Eagle fan, so it was a treat to see the two of you collaborating. I guess there's an upside to being an aromantic songwriter. I may miss out on a very fruitful (and often lucrative) topic for lyrics, but I don't have to worry about any of this. lol

  • @kirkb6329
    @kirkb6329 2 года назад +4

    loved all the references to other musicians and their breakups ! So Patty Boyd is with George then later Eric and even then , George and Eric played so many times together afterwards! Such an interesting subject Mary !!

    • @robinleebraun7739
      @robinleebraun7739 Год назад +1

      Bro’s before (a very unflattering depiction of women)

  • @weepingscorpion8739
    @weepingscorpion8739 2 года назад +1

    Yes, a cross over event I didn't know I wanted but I am totally loving! Great job as always with your videos and your music, Mary, and fair winds with your release! :)

  • @samfreedman6108
    @samfreedman6108 2 года назад +1

    Great little video essay!! Bravo!! 😀
    One safe subject, is to get ideas from other people's break ups and then write based on how you would feel in those situations.

  • @bungopony
    @bungopony 2 года назад +3

    Mary, this was a great subject to cover. As a songwriter myself, I have written about certain people in my life, but I always kept it poetic so that no one would know who that song, line or verse is about. Many of those are actually complimentary. Sometimes a song can be about a subject and within that subject, feature various people who come to mind. Without ever discussing people we've met through our short time here, we wouldn't have many interesting things to talk about.

  • @tonyeagle3912
    @tonyeagle3912 2 года назад +5

    Again Mary, you’ve approached a subject from a different angle and in real depth - brilliant! I know you have acting skills and your expression on this video cover image almost led me to believe you were in hot water somewhere, but thankfully appears not. Certainly you need to keep your guard especially in the music business. As you say, Social media adds to the labyrinth of reactions and possibilities especially in opening up cans of worms when you least expect it.

  • @richardcamp8301
    @richardcamp8301 2 года назад +1

    A great listen. And very well written and balanced opinion. And congrats on the subscriber number - I hadnt noticed how its rocketed

  • @ZijZijnZijnZoons
    @ZijZijnZijnZoons Год назад

    Very interesting videos you put together. I've seen about a half-dozen or so in the past week. There's a lot to digest, but it's very profound and thought-provoking.

  • @kjbunnyboiler
    @kjbunnyboiler 2 года назад +8

    Mary, how could you miss out Phil Collins? The Face Value album has to have the ultimate “don’t go, I miss you, I hate you” format🤣🤣🤣

  • @soulofash2112
    @soulofash2112 2 года назад +5

    One of my old band's biggest hits, "Nothing Gold Can Stay," was written about my previous band's vocalist, and some drama between us. We're famous mates now (was even the best man at his wedding), but be damned if it didn't give me a great song from the anger and pain I felt at the time.
    As to breakups, I've deliberately avoided writing anything about those, as the one time I did... I realized the way I write lyrics coupled with the way that style of song generally goes was not great.
    And say what you will about your song, Mary--it's an amazing piece, and one of my favorites of yours (granted there's quite a few of those)!
    I myself would love to date a songwriter. Then I'd never have to worry about writing lyrics (not my strong suit) again! :D

  • @peterbondmusic
    @peterbondmusic 2 года назад

    This is very thoughtful, and I really like the structure and editing.

  • @OliveOliFera
    @OliveOliFera 2 года назад +2

    This was such an interesting video! Thank you!

  • @tylerpalmer8973
    @tylerpalmer8973 2 года назад +22

    This was a pretty interesting video. As a teenager, anything I wrote musically was pretty much always about heartache. Now much, much, older, I don't write like I used to. When you're happy, it's so much harder to get that deep emotion out. But, hey, it's better to be happy and not be able to write, then miserable and writing all the time!
    BTW, I very much enjoy your story telling on the channel! I think I like it equally as much you music! Keep it up!

    • @franklee1205
      @franklee1205 2 года назад

      Which begs question 🤔 ...are artists happier when their going through crap ?!?!..because ...now they got a hit song with that , 🤔.....or is it in the Artist nature .....to stir the pot.....mix up the paint. So to speak...🤔.😳...Hollwood has sure created some..messed up pallets 😏. for family and lives...I suppose for "Arts sake"..😏....🤔....warped...? Or Art....?.... sic🤔....Or both..😳...or is not all "Art" realy "Art" ....The age old first year Art student question..( my thought..🤔 if it realease s a thought , Joy pain(healthily) or feeling that helps or results in at least a bit of Healing for someone else (and does not continually damaging, individuals or society....or if it inspires one to act , or speak out of or for good of a person or group of people,or if it just makes the person give pause to compasion, if only for a moment ITS Art..)

    • @GiraelCS
      @GiraelCS 2 года назад +3

      Can't happines get just as deep as the most miserable sorrow? And have you tried writing a happy song during that mood? I'm honestly curious.

    • @tylerpalmer8973
      @tylerpalmer8973 2 года назад +1

      @@GiraelCS, for me, sadness or depression is something I have to get off my chest, and always found it easier to write when in that state. Same thing applied to me for drawing, etc. Not that I drew sad or depressing pictures, but I always seemed to be able to be better at it when it was dark and rainy and I felt a little more down.
      When I'm happy, which is quite a lot, I'm more focused on doing other things. Sadness has a way of making me center in on myself and my feelings more.
      That being said, I can write music when I'm happy, just not lyrics.

    • @Hahnsoulo
      @Hahnsoulo Год назад +1

      @@GiraelCS I think many songwriters write songs primarily as a form of therapy. Like they write songs to get things off their chest in lieu of going to a therapist. When someone like that is in a period of happiness and contentedness they don't feel the need to get anything off their chest.

    • @GiraelCS
      @GiraelCS Год назад

      @@Hahnsoulo That's what I imagined is often the case.
      I don't have any experience with songwriting or even music writing for that matter, but I remember my favourite times drawing and how serene or even exciting it felt to get ideas from my head onto paper and it wasn't easy to draw anything when I felt down. Also many of my favorite musical pieces are ether exciting, insipiring or straight up "feel good"-vibes, so I doubt they were written in a mood on the opposite part of that spectrum, but I could be wrong.
      I think to me it speaks more to the way we approach our emotions and feelings, so I will ponder on it further, because it's quite an interesting topic.

  • @lewiscrow
    @lewiscrow 2 года назад +56

    For years I've thought that dating Taylor Swift pretty much guarantees you'll end up as the subject of a song.

    • @Rick_Cleland
      @Rick_Cleland 2 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @tele68
      @tele68 2 года назад +10

      Probably. But at least you could say you used to date Taylor Swift.

    • @cuber3603
      @cuber3603 Год назад +1

      Seems like she's settled down now

    • @aitornavarro6597
      @aitornavarro6597 Год назад

      I would her writing about me or break-up or whatever hah

    • @jokeassasin7733
      @jokeassasin7733 Год назад

      2 ways to establish your mark on history.
      Do something worth writing about, or write something worth reading.

  • @scottcher
    @scottcher Год назад

    Fantastic. So good and such a perfect piano accompaniment. Really outstanding content and a great execution. Clearly the result of a lot of work and passion for the topic.

  • @rk1362
    @rk1362 2 года назад +2

    Beautifully done video.

  • @spacemissing
    @spacemissing 2 года назад +3

    It is impossible to keep one's strongest emotions out of one's artistic efforts,
    as most of those efforts are made under the influence of those emotions.
    Just be careful to make suitable adjustments before releasing a song.
    And, Mary, you look incredibly good in the inserts of yourself during the Legal Eagle section.

  • @seanhallahan14
    @seanhallahan14 2 года назад +5

    Pretty good! Beyond that really. Very good! Well thought out, well and interestingly presented, poignant and entertaining. Way to go!
    Please do consider a follow up on "I'll never date a musician, I know too much." I think there's lots there that could be as helpful, even more edifying and enjoyable as this one. There was a wonderful quote from some learned musicologist, perhaps Howard Goodall, or perhaps Tchaikovsky or Rachmaninoff about himself, quoting a famous other composer or themselves to the effect "I put in every emotional trick in the book in it". Sorry I can't recall the players and content.
    Please do give it consideration.
    Best & cheers,
    Sean

  • @maxblack2347
    @maxblack2347 Год назад

    The format and presentation was so nice and refreshing, wow, very nice

  • @XOChristianaNicole
    @XOChristianaNicole 2 года назад +1

    What a wonderful video, Mary.

  • @LysanderLH
    @LysanderLH 2 года назад +8

    The thing about this, is that we can all name plenty of songwriters who, through a lack of extreme enough emotional turmoil, sought ever more extreme emotional turmoil and experiential anomalies through abuse of themselves, others and the physical environment around them. Sometimes it was expected and demanded of them. This belies a level of dishonesty; a pattern of thinking, which forces further psychologically traumatising events in order to feel productive as a writer.
    My advice to those who try to outdo their lived experiences by consciously choosing to cause more to happen than nature might have otherwise provided them, is to stop. Sometimes things, life, changes. Sometimes the person you were changes. Sometimes those around you change. Trying to squeeze every last drop out of every given situation is potentially an emotionally unhealthy, psychologically damaging thing to do. Reflection and looking for answers and meaning is not the same thing. Feeling and experiencing emotions and responding appropriately to them, is not the same thing.
    Just my thoughts on this.

    • @DeGuerre
      @DeGuerre Год назад +1

      In the classical world, Felix Mendelssohn is often singled out as a composer who produced amazing music, but had an unusually comfortable life and was reasonably well-adjusted. Yes, he died early at the age of 38 (of some medical condition that ran in the family), but he had a pretty decent life before that.

    • @nitroanilinmusic
      @nitroanilinmusic Год назад +1

      @@DeGuerre Not everyone needs to channel some extreme emotional energy to create music. As a musician myself, I love creating music that *sounds* emotional, but never needed a source of said emotion to channel to it. And in the off-chance I actually utilize my negative emotions in my work, it's mostly for therapeutic purposes and probably wouldn't do if it made me feel worse.
      This post wouldn't be the first I've heard of abusing oneself's emotions to create more art, though... That sounds very dangerous.

  • @psa110
    @psa110 2 года назад +3

    Mary, I've always hoped your songs about broken relationships were not actually your personal experience...they are too painful and sad, leaving me with the desire just to give you a big, warm hug of comfort. I guess your songs achieved their aim but it is still too bad you had to go through what you did.

  • @JamieMPhoto
    @JamieMPhoto 2 года назад +2

    Love this video, and Legal Eagle rules! Also, love your piano interjections. ha ha.

  • @seandaeley7079
    @seandaeley7079 Год назад

    A fun, funny, and informative video essay, Mary! Thank you!

  • @hughmungus1767
    @hughmungus1767 2 года назад +31

    At the risk of being taken for a contrarian, let me suggest a completely different approach. Scottish-born songwriter Al Stewart, probably best known for The Year of the Cat, went a very different way. His songs are about historical events, many from long before he was born. I read an interview with him that asked about that and he said love songs (which include breakup songs) had been done to death and he was bored with them so he chose to do songs about major and minor historical events, including WW II, the Napoleonic Wars, and the death of Buddy Holly. I think it can be argued that writing about something OTHER than affairs of the heart adds a huge level of interest to a song. While love and heartbreak are universal experiences and therefore have a certain appeal, such songs can be seen as so routine that they lack interest. At the very least, it might be a fun challenge to write about something OTHER than a romantic entanglement.
    By the way, I want to make one observation/compliment about Mary's songs that I haven't heard anyone else mention in the comments I've read on this or other videos. The fact is that Mary camouflages her exes so well that I honestly don't know if she is heterosexual, bisexual or lesbian. I commend her artistry in keeping her private life private, as it should be.

    • @rexwave4624
      @rexwave4624 Год назад +1

      You had me at Al Stewart, then his point about love songs. I've been following a band called The Warning, partly because I'm very tired of the classic rock that is pushed at my cohort, partly because they compose and play heavy riff rock that I loved when I was a youngster (which became classic rock), partly because their current progress from kids in the basement to rock stardom is compelling (Mary's video about ambition is very relevant and disturbing) and partly because they write about very unsettling topics (to your point) such as loneliness, murder/suicide, the angel of death, choking/drowning as an allegory for emotional trauma, etc. - not as a celebration of these topics, but trying to express pain in the soul. Are pretty young girls supposed to feel and elucidate such things?

    • @HackerHaus
      @HackerHaus Год назад +1

      “She comes out of the sun in a silk dress running like a watercolor in the rain…”

    • @rexwave4624
      @rexwave4624 Год назад +1

      @@HackerHaus “the ghost moon sails among the clouds”.

    • @wturber
      @wturber Год назад +1

      Any subject that a person can feel deeply about can work. And then sing it like you really mean it. "What's Up" and "Zombie" are examples that jump into my head. Going back in time, there's "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald", "Riders on the Storm", "The Hurricane", "Where do the Children Play", "Harper Valley PTA", "Boy Named Sue" and two of my faves, "Sultans of Swing" and "Money for Nothing". The list is rich and long. The world is chock full of things that we care about - all great potential for song lyrics.

    • @TomBombadil515
      @TomBombadil515 Год назад

      Some of my favorite artists create music based on completely fictional events, using their storytelling and musicianship to draw in the listener. Dream Theater springs to mind with most of their material, especially their concept albums like Scenes From a Memory. Then there’s stuff like Godzilla from Racer X with high-octane, overstimulating, and shred-type playing.
      The whole progressive genre, rock, metal and otherwise, is all about experimenting with different sounds, instruments, and subject matter that makes for engrossing listening. Soen by Lotus also comes to mind.

  • @johnsauer9067
    @johnsauer9067 2 года назад +57

    Kind of a imbalance of power when one is a musician with a "bully pulpit" to pronounce their anger at someone and the other person is not. Particularly when the world knows who the song is likely about. As we all probably would agree, there are two sides to any romantic break-up. A huge hit by a well-known artist at the expense of an ex leaves the other person screwed. Funny thing about George Harrison and Eric Clapton - they both remained lifelong friends after Pattie Boyd left the scene. I think I recall George saying in an interview that he wasn't all that upset about it when Pattie moved on to Eric.

    • @samsowden
      @samsowden 2 года назад +4

      He referred to Eric as his "husband in law"

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns 2 года назад +7

      I agree. These songs are enjoyable on their own, but in the context of their authors, I usually assume they’re a bit neurotic to write them in the first place 😂 For narcissists, a normal part of breakups is dragging the other person’s name through the mud in a very public way to destroy their reputation as much as possible. A popular singer who publicly shames their ex in their music has an above average likelihood of being narcissistic and lacking self-awareness. And let’s face it, musicians disproportionately include the emotional, brooding, neurotic types of people who want others to adore them on stage and listen to whatever they have to say in their one-sided musical stories ;)

    • @michaelboggus9993
      @michaelboggus9993 Год назад +2

      Maybe and maybe not about being upset. George eventually got over it but according to Patty he broke half the stuff in the house when she first told him

  • @InspiredMoney
    @InspiredMoney Год назад

    Love the storytelling in this video. Thank you!

  • @fosterern
    @fosterern 2 года назад

    Well done. Well said. You beautifully captured the nuance of this sensitive topic Mary.

  • @yackohoopy
    @yackohoopy Год назад +75

    @Mary Spender, there’s a saying, “Never break the heart of a musician or a comedian. You’ll end up in the act”.
    I was in an abusive relationship for 3 years. I got 3-4 songs out of my relationship with her, “Deadly Lover”, “Drama Queen”, and “Little White Liar”.

    • @jcmangan
      @jcmangan Год назад

      Little white sucker sounds like a hit.

    • @gordonmills2748
      @gordonmills2748 Год назад +4

      I did stand up for a hot minute some years ago. My ex wife inadvertently wrote the set up for one of my best bits.

    • @gregster61
      @gregster61 Год назад

      I love the title "Little White Liar"!

    • @YYZed12
      @YYZed12 Год назад +1

      Damm, those title of The songs sounds like something Queen would write

    •  Год назад

      @@YYZed12 Drama Queen?
      :D

  • @Markothunder
    @Markothunder 2 года назад +5

    This video taught me a lesson. Never get into a romantic relationship if you don't wanna have problems. Stay single and happy forever

  • @ButchWilson
    @ButchWilson 2 года назад

    This is an excellent and insightful commentary. Well said, and thank you. And that piano piece is outstanding.

  • @JuanCaly
    @JuanCaly Год назад

    What a great video! Loved the piano soundtrack. So emotional.

  • @SunnyIntervalsORG
    @SunnyIntervalsORG Год назад +7

    It's so weird to see 2 people that I've followed separately on RUclips or social media for years suddenly doing a collaboration out of nowhere! Pretty cool as well!

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai Год назад

      My brain shortcircuited and said "Wait Mary and the LegalEagle are dating?!" LOL

  • @dominicsedillo1980
    @dominicsedillo1980 2 года назад +5

    I think the differences you pointed out between “Dear John” and “Paper Doll” are articulated so well and I have thought the same thing.
    I think the level of maturity as a person and as a songwriter show themselves in such things.

  • @bsvenss2
    @bsvenss2 2 года назад

    Didn't think I'd stay so long, but this was a very interesting and fascinating video. Thumbs up!

  • @mathispenel22
    @mathispenel22 Год назад

    Very interesting video about a topic I wouldn't thought of, thank you Mary !

  • @thedduck
    @thedduck 2 года назад +3

    Dang, his webcam must be hella expensive. His zoom / live stream must be cinematic af 😂

    • @friendofships
      @friendofships 2 года назад +1

      you can plug in your DSLR, mirrorless camera or dedicated video camera and use it as a webcam, that is probably what he is doing.

  • @theboysown
    @theboysown Год назад +7

    The breakup songs of ABBA are unique in the fact that Björn wrote lyrics about his break up with Agneta and the had her sing them.

    • @Sam-vy8ye
      @Sam-vy8ye Год назад +2

      Same for Fleetwood Mac

    • @calewis55
      @calewis55 Год назад

      Oh, God..... So rough.

  • @jesushernandezpitito
    @jesushernandezpitito Год назад

    Greetings from Morelia, Michoacan, Mexico The best to you. Keep us posted of your coming performances.

  • @antunkatona5674
    @antunkatona5674 Год назад

    This video was brilliant, Mary! Very interesting and funny too! Thanks!

  • @DazzleRebel
    @DazzleRebel 2 года назад +6

    Carly Simon has still never revealed who "You're So Vain" was really about. As for actually writing and releasing a personal song I'd say it's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission!

    • @robinleebraun7739
      @robinleebraun7739 2 года назад +1

      I heard Cat Stevens and/or Kris Kristofferson. .

    • @DazzleRebel
      @DazzleRebel 2 года назад +1

      @@robinleebraun7739 lots of theories but she's never confirmed. Warren Beatty, David Geffen and James Taylor were all in the mix too.

    • @martinwatkins1444
      @martinwatkins1444 2 года назад +1

      @@robinleebraun7739 Widely believed to be Warren Beatty

    • @aaronbenson2767
      @aaronbenson2767 2 года назад +1

      If I was a vain person, I’d swear that song was about me…

  • @rayschoch5882
    @rayschoch5882 2 года назад +3

    "He thinks the whole thing is about him…" is just perfect… Humans are… emotional, and emotionally messy. Creative types often more so. Fortunately, I'm far too old to be dating a songwriter, or anyone. This is one of my favorite "Mary" videos - smart, sassy, that lovely Bristol accent, thoughtful. What's not to like?

  • @rusnsc7622
    @rusnsc7622 2 года назад

    Quite interesting and a very well done clever video. Bravo Mary!👏

  • @salnegromusic
    @salnegromusic 2 года назад

    Peace and Blessings to you. Love you for who you are and how you are genuine about the music. Blessed.

  • @tauzeroii-jayg1226
    @tauzeroii-jayg1226 2 года назад +6

    This reminds me of a joke told by a friend in radio, who narrated it in an official-sounding infomercial voice.
    "Have you dated Taylor Swift and had a song written about you? You may be entitled to legal compensation." (chuckling)

  • @RyanMcMusic
    @RyanMcMusic 2 года назад

    Thanks so much for making this

  • @meekoloco
    @meekoloco Год назад

    Okay so now that piano melody is stuck in my head! Well played!

  • @paultisme
    @paultisme Год назад

    Goodness Mary, that wonderful disembodied speaking voice of yours.. smooth as silk.. and your music too of course..🙂

  • @andyrharris
    @andyrharris 2 года назад

    This is one of your best videos yet. Good work!

  • @grimslater
    @grimslater Год назад

    Very high audio recording of your voice. Lovely top end especially!

  • @billwentz5014
    @billwentz5014 2 года назад

    As always, excellent video. You're the best!

  • @timwillis6292
    @timwillis6292 2 года назад

    Great Info & Advise 🌿

  • @CanyonWanderer
    @CanyonWanderer 2 года назад

    Interesting topic and very well handled. I'm getting very curious for what you've been recording. All recent playing by you being it guitar / piano / midnight singing in quiet villages 😜sounds top notch! Cannot wait!

  • @BryannaHitchcock
    @BryannaHitchcock 2 года назад

    Quality content. Thank you. Fun stuff. I have a hard time coming up with song ideas when I'm happy. Most of my best songs were those of sadness or longing.

  • @spaz_ol4485
    @spaz_ol4485 2 года назад

    Amazing video, love this sort of content. Thanks!

  • @ochjim
    @ochjim 2 года назад

    Insightful, articulate and engaging +. This would make a great springboard for multiple videos on the numerous relationships/breakups that have made it into song.

  • @catarinabarbosa2247
    @catarinabarbosa2247 2 года назад

    i think this is one of my favorite (not counting song releases) videos you've ever made!

  • @seiunbklicky4364
    @seiunbklicky4364 2 года назад

    LOVED THIS!! and LOVE YOU!!!

  • @G-Mac-3
    @G-Mac-3 2 года назад

    Hello Mary, Thanks for Posting this

  • @scottoakley3206
    @scottoakley3206 2 года назад

    This is a masterpiece composition! All of the elements held me for the entire story. That is a real job in the time of 'shorts'.

  • @busboy3943
    @busboy3943 2 года назад

    Well done Mary. Thank You!

  • @tenniswithandy
    @tenniswithandy Год назад

    creative video, I really like the musical backing as it adds to the tenor

  • @leewilson1368
    @leewilson1368 2 года назад

    Bravo! Mary, I’ve never heard anyone address this topic. You’ve done well! Cheers!

  • @ScottChasty
    @ScottChasty Год назад +2

    Content is great. But I want to take a second and point out how well put together this video is. It really keeps you engaged the entire time. It feels like you're having a conversation directly with the viewer, and the different angles keep this amazing flow going. I really like this.