DWARFS vs. CHAOS DWARFS - A Grudge Too Far - Total War Warhammer 3
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2023
- An Ancient Rivalry manifests in this DWARFS vs. CHAOS DWARFS matchup on Total War Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires, with the Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs DLC. Astragoth Ironhand and the mighty Bale Taurus take on Ungrim Ironfist and a host of elite Dwarf infantry in this epic battle and A Grudge Too Far.
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DWARFS vs. CHAOS DWARFS - Total War Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires
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imagine having prosthetic legs to make you 6 foot and being called a monster for it
Lol 🤣
Milk and cookies really outed himself as a 2 foot stunty jealous of the 6 foot chad
@@smartcakes303 short kings unite against the evil 5 foot 11 overlords
You’d have to be a pissed Taurus to be guilty of such a thing
@@smartcakes303 he will joins jerma in the gremlin youtubers' den
I shed a tear for my Dawi, we did it. For Grimnir
The abomination we do not speak of was destroyed.
Hashut has plans for you. You will burn one day.
We slayed them Uzkul-Dhrazh-Zharr ! Kazuuk!
@@emprahsfinest7092 This sounds like a story where this one we do not speak of will be revived. 😁😁( You never know if the evil sorcerer is really dead.)
I’m only 5mins in but can I just talk about how good these replays always are with how much you zoom in an focus on hits and things like that, it makes the video so much more entertaining. Amazing work as usual tbh
glad you enjoyed it
agreed. a lot of the other total war youtubers just have the "strategic view" all the time, which makes it rather boring to look at imo
I just see the banners and a billion arrow indicators in other channels
It would be cool if dwarfs got an upgrade in the form of a DLC, they feel like they got the short end of the stick in terms of variety of units.
apparently they're getting silver shields
SHORT!?
NO ALLIANCE!!
rather than units i would love to see some mechanics, dwarfs are craftsmen afterall so why can orcs/chaos dwarfs/skaven upgrade their units but dwarfs cant forge better armor, sharper axes or tinker with altilery etc outside of hero/lord equip that you can farm from battles anyway
@@janovmi2 they are known for craftsmanship true, but they are also known for not doing a job subpar. I would rather see more of the runes. Instead of just upgrading unit stats how about an effect of some kind? That way it's not just ripping off the greenskins rework and leans into an aspect still not fully used.
This is exactly how I would see a dwarven fight going kin vs kin... Nobody is winning because everybody is to stubborn to die.
everyone is too stubborn to run or give up or concede defeat so EVERYBODY dies
@@sinitall As Grimnir intended
12:20 "The future is now Old Man!!"
can we just mention the chuckling after saying "blunderbussies" lmao that was great
So I get why it can SEEM like Astragoth should be a large unit, but we are talking about Dwarfs here, and he'd probably not look as tall next to other races. And as far as actual size goes, there are definitely some very large infantry sized characters that are probably bigger than him. Grimgor comes to mind!
Yep. Another example is Azazel. He is classified as infantry as well.
Agreed. The only weird thing about him is the 60 move speed. The rest is perfect.
@@PhilosophicallyAmerican I mean if a chaos dwarf made mech suit moved slowly id be pretty confused tbh
@@masonsudul1643 I would say more along the lines of 40. 60 is a bit high.
So the game's definition of a 'large' entity is horse sized or bigger, and while astragoth looks big compared to other dwarfs, i think he's actually about the same size as a human or elf
Large (For a Dwarf)
@@Galloglaigh. Thats a grudgin' boy.
Great video! The Dwarfs have incredible staying power, I was really impressed by how many of them got back into the fight with their remaining models in the single digits
Oh wow the new flamestorm looks spectacular, thought it was a new Hashut spell for a second
It seems more like a static vortex now, but it's damage output looked super underwhelming compared to the others.
That Bull Taurus looks badass
Bull Taurus, Bull Bull?
@@CruentusMessor Cow of Conflagration, Burning Brahmin, Blazing Bovine?
@@Redsauce101 Poacher of Unicorns.
Gorgers with hooves since they are definitely going to get nerfed before launch xD
Killing it as always mate. Astrogeezy 😂😂
Magma cannon shots is where I expected Dwarf accuracy to be in general.
Artillery shots leaving behind AoEs is something I’ve been wishing for years, for units like Dwarf Flame Cannons and Plagueclaw Catapults.
Flame cannon absolutely needs this
the crackling sounds of the cannons is W.O.W., impressive battle sir, thanks for all of this wonderful content !
I love your slo mos after each interesting event of the battle! Great work!
7:15
Love the rage against the machine lyrics added in and matching the action. A moment of epic art in your presentations. :)
@milkandcookiesTW new cover album is... fire
The question on _my_ mind is: do you get the "Beard Collector" trait from fighting chorfs?
My only guess is that the Chorfs have their own version of "Beard Collector" or some other trait similar to Beard Collector.
@@opusmagnus26 Hat collector
@@FirstnameLastname-uu2zf 😂
Place your bets before watching gentlemen, dawi or dawi-zhar? Who shall fall "short" of victory?!
Dawi-Zhar
SHORT!?
@@versok2999 *Comedically loud vine boom*
Do you even speak for your people......
Dawi!!!!!
46 dlc now and cant wait to try my favorite faction. big hats over all
I have to say ur def the best warhammer MP youtuber there, great edits and great cinematic shots coupled with pretty good commentary. Also that was a super close game was very surprised dawi somehow came back from that.
wow wow wow I thought this was OVER in the begining like you said, hell of a fight! Def one of my favorite videos you've ever put out! Number one still is that amazing fight Ungrim Vs Archaon or Grimgor I think, fighting until the very end with Ungrim making it out with just under a few hps
The bulls on parade reference is so good. Especially since you know, bulls, Hashut. Good stuff.
Chaos dwarfs have so many stun/staggering attacks baked in
Pumping out these land battles more industriously than the Chaos Dwarves themselves! I love it!
Really close game, great to watch as usual, thanks.
Amazing footage of my two favourite factions! Also love the RatM references🤘🙌
oh all those references to "rage against the machine" lyrics is just glorious!!
That final 360 swing was just icing on the cake.
Dwarfs need a grudge mechanic, the more units lost in a unit should give them a buff to make them feel like they're as strong no matter the unit counts since they're dwarfs through an through
nah that doesn't make sense dwarfs aren't slaanesh, they get great shame from defeat. Would suit campaign better where you get buffs and higher chance of slayers after a big defeat.
@c e well that's almost how it works since losing usually spawns a grudge and the more grudges you have the more slayers you get.
Why? They're already extremely powerful in battle. Their only "weakness" isn't even one of performance, but that the TT didn't give them a whole lot of units and CA have been neglecting them DLC wise. They could use some grudgeraker and drakefire pistol infantry variants, but that's more or less all they're missing.
@@G1ingy Dwarfs need Engineer Lord and Thunder Barge. These 2 would fill the roster holes.
@@ce5122 Yeah, makes sense as a unit gets slight buffs for losing a few models in a unit to avenge them that'll anger them. More of a why not since many units are getting these battle buffs by simply existing.
Just working an guessing with what we got. An we literally have a bare bones version of what you said
Those dwarfs might not have been tall. But they certainly were *wide*
Dwarfs vs the cooler Dwarfs
No, just no. Grombindal and gotrek could take the whole chorf empire on just them two. Dawi are giga chads
@@Manlikepegasus ok mr plot armor fan
@@LuzikArbuzik77 Only gotrek has plot armor, and who cares cause that just means they clap even harder. Grombrindal and Gotrek are broken
amazing commentary.. i am now in love with magma cannon.
A grudge... too far? Preposterous!
So glad they reworked the lore of fire VFX, it really needed it
Great replay!
It'd be cool if they buffed the accuracy of dwarf cannons and gave them an explosive ammo type. IDK why the elves get multiple ammo types while the most artillery reliant faction in the game doesn't.
I think that mainly is for the fact the elf’s only get the 1 artillery piece. Now I’m not saying ammo types wouldn’t be something to add. But I think they decided to keep them standard ammunition but more specialized in their roles. Cannon being anti large/counter artillery, organ gun anti infantry armor piercing, flame cannon anti blob etc.
Love the Canon hit effect at @13:30
The amount of Rage Against the Machine references in this vids makes me happy
Loving the Rage references :D
"He needs a walker and a subscription to life alert." I cracked up with that one.
I feel like if you played this same match 10 times it would come out slightly differently each of those times. Very evenly matched groups overall, and so lots of the variability is down to how they're played and capitalizing on mistakes.
Great match!
Bulls on parade lyrics earned my sub
I'll be honest High King. That blunderbussy got me actin' unwise...
great battle, short but sweet.
I caught that Rage against the machine reference there milikandcookies ;)
The Magma cannons are stupidly OP. Most ridiculous is that the AoE stuns the targets caught within it on top of their accuracy. Makes it more or less impossible to compensate with good micro.
Damn those Magma Cannons are hella sexy. The Chorfs axes look so awesome too, definitely my favorites
Great fight, so close.
Oh hell yeah! Lets go!
I feel like a slayer campaign in the dark lands is going to be fucking awesome when the chaos dorks come out
Blunderbussies!!! btw love the rock and metal song jokes XD
cannot wait to get in on them 😁
Love the Rage Against the Machine reference haha
Wow, what a match !
You get a like just for the RatM quotes all being in context
Norgrimlings always have this tendency too "be dead" before combat even hits due too everyone and their mother focusing them but still stick around for the better part of the battle with 5% health.
Their little bombs did help alot with getting the blunders off the field
7:25 I'm picking up what you're putting down, here
The new Firestorm animation reminds me of the inside of a marble.
Chorf blunderbussy got me unwise
Beautiful game
Great now I'm listening to rage against the machine after this.
Can’t wait to get my hands on the C-Dwarfs!
They looks so fun. I’d be interested to see what a cheap unit spam would look like in multiplayer. Haven’t seen the slaves highlighted too much yet.
LABOURERS, Laboureres. Remember , as a dark elf you can have a favourite slave, but labourers are just a resource. Think like a Chorf.
@@markosimunic4770 hahaha true!
loving the RATM references haha
I suppose that the chaos dwarves issue was not having some strong infantry upfront but the pesky goblins, but the other units earned their weight in gold
The axe of dargo demanded blood
Many grudges settled many more written that day.
Seeing how good those blasting charges did even against Chorf infantry makes me wonder if miners with blasting charges might be a good pick. It could also be worth putting a couple of chevrons on the cannons to improve their accuracy, since they seem like a very strong pick against most Chorf builds but clearly struggle to match the accuracy of magma cannons.
Miner with blasting charge or an irondrake are absolutely a good pick against chorf, as their are very reliant on laborer to fight with even number, as everything else in their roster is expensive. In the case of the hobgobbo, I would even say extremely overpriced, as the cutthroat and archer cost almost as much as a regular dwarf warrior and quareller.
There is absolutely no point in taking hobgoblin cutthroat, unless you rank already has plenty of laborer or you are not bringing blunderbuss to the fight, as you need something to tied down the enemy that you don't mind shooting through for the blunderbuss, as they kill everything in their firing cone, without discrimination, once they start shooting. Due to their short range and firing cone, there is absolutely no way to not do friendly fire with blunderbuss from a safe position, except for shooting downhill.
I really hope they give the regular dwarf thunders the blunderbuss reload animation.
Uzkul-Dhrazh-Zharr now bow down for your new lords in the mountains! Kazuuuuuk!
Nice😮
Yesssss never mess with the real dawiiii
With regards to damage reflection, have you played the rotblood tribe mod?
The whole roster has it, including diseases peasant type units who do no other dmg. It really showed me how powerful reflection can be. Its very situational though and only worth it on units with low melee defence, and ideally high entity numbers. Great vid mate
So I'm gathering from this, magma cannon op
I will always wonder what indie pride looks like in real life
extremely handsome
@@milkandcookiesTW we can only hope
I'm pretty sure we seen him before at a total war tournament or something. About 2 years ago. (Indeed handsome fellow)
@@Adrian_Zamora98 I’m assuming you mean someone filmed it
@@Adrian_Zamora98 I just scavenged RUclips and found a photo of him. Not what I expected
So we've seen alot of crazy artillery over the years from the various races, from the Queen Bess Cannon to the Hellfire Rocket Battery, but i don't think we've ever seen a more DISGUSTING and busted pair of artillery options than the Magma Cannon and the Dreadfire Launcher - the fact the first one has very good accuracy and drags in nearby models and the second one has a gargantuan aoe that causes continuous gobs of damage is maddening.
In Short - the age of gunpowder has come at last to the Old World.
Shocking result
Grudge settled for the dwarves 😤🤟🤟
Blunderbussies? Oh, BEHAVE! ;-)
needed brimstone gyrocopters to kite the bull and use the slayers to take shots to the face while infantry closed.
absolutely love all the rage against the machine puns for chorfs, please keep it up
Wow that's a bizarre take on the balance. Chaos dwarfs can't get enough of their actual dwarf units and lean on heavy chaff...that the normal dawi just chew through leaving them having more numbers (for once) to push back with. I wonder how things would have gone if the cow had stayed to kill the cannons but that would have left the blunderbuss open to be butchered so probably six if one and half a dozen of the other.
Probably would have been better to get the normal Bull Torus and bring some more infantry or something. Having so little units to actually hold the line really seemed to get him in the end.
@@xShadowbane451 Hobgoblins are kinda pointless versus Dwarfs, what exactly are they going to fight? You are spending 425 a unit, thats 1275g for units that can't even beat Dwarf Warriors. Add 600g for a Bale Tarus over a regular Taurus when all you are expecting it to do is chase artillery and archer hunting. Imagine the Dwarf Warrior ROR for some staying power, flaming attacks and flaming grenades to hold the line and take advantage of Ash Storm or Renders to run down those archers, artillery and warriors.
BUT despite my criticism it was an amazing battle and after the start I was wondering how on earth this was going to be lost.
Dawi just need their Golems and thunderbarge. If not for increasing their strength, them at least for completions sake of having variety.
Very lore accurate fight between Dawi-Zharr and Dawi, Dawi lose the initial fights and get pushed to the breaking point but they're too damned stubborn to go down for good and fight to the last, outlasting the less stalwart Dawi-Zharr
They should buff the dwarf artillery me thinks. If magma cannons have that range and mobility then flame cannons need an improvement.
astrogoth is underrated he really grew on me the past videos i watched - more than zhatan personally
How can he be underrated when everyone and their dog says that he is hands down the best C. Dwarf lord and a stupidly good fighter for an infantry lord with the speed of heavy cav?
Indie out here blunderbussin’ no blasting cap
liked the video when you went blunderbussies huehguheuheuhueuhe
Lol Giant Slayers shreddin' ass YEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW!!!!
the dwarves are tuff af. yes chaos has advantage from high ground. total war has always given buff for high ground. if you get gunners tiered on a hill in line nothing can take many volleys. you layer the guns in line like stairs on a hill and have one sword wielding unit to go through the gap that gets created in the enemy line.
Rage against the Machine Puns!
holy hashut. it's here.
expanded roster mod helps alot with chaos dawi alot the SFO one just came out
Those blasting charges won the game
ROCK AND STONE
Fine taste in games and music! The microphone explodes, shattering the molds!
LETS GET READY TO GRUMBLLLLLLLLLE!!!
Nice to see many of my TT models in action. Is the Earthshaker cannon removed?
Dreadquake you mean? Yes that's in the game if that's what you are referring to.
Earthshaker cannons are not in. Dreadquake mortar is though
@@baconsoup8346 : My models are named Earthshaker cannon. But after looking at the effects of the weapon it seems they just renamed it.
this game makes me curious on how a blunderbuss front line would do? They seem like the amount of damage they can do might make that a viable option.
I dont think so. They're 900 gold a piece and wouldn't be able to get enough damage in before melee. Bring a lot, sure, but you'd need to bring chaff as well.
@@Remixersoloman As you see in the video, they literally fire they blunderbusses while in melee, destroying one of the strongest Dwarven melee units. So it looks like they would do fine.
@@madselmvig1457 The hammerers were already on deaths door though. In a straight up fight they would get demolished just like any other ranged unit, maybe being able to do a bit more damage back, but still getting beaten.
@@madselmvig1457 blunderbusses would be extremely weak to melee, artillery, and other ranged units
@@ce5122 I'd debate their weakness to other ranged because of their shields and high armor. As long as you can get close enough you can blast them but even if you can't you could probably just ignore most other ranged units firing on them.