Does the Tory Party hate young people? Home Secretary quizzed on LBC

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  • Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
  • James Cleverly has said a proposed new National Service for 18-year-olds is "compulsory" but those who refuse will not receive "criminal sanctions".
    On Saturday, the Prime Minister announced the new election pledge and confirmed all 18-year-olds will be made to enrol in a year-long military placement or spend one weekend each month volunteering under the plan.
    Mr Sunak has received backlash to the proposal but said he wanted the changes to instil a "shared sense of purpose” in youngsters.
    The Home Secretary has defended the idea to Lewis Goodall on LBC on Sunday and said he hopes the scheme will help fix social fragmentation.
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Комментарии • 2,2 тыс.

  • @riffraff9506
    @riffraff9506 22 дня назад +1286

    Restore national pride, vote a Tory out.

    • @rachelmatthews3070
      @rachelmatthews3070 22 дня назад +73

      That's a national service I will happily volunteer for! 😂

    • @ebillyboi
      @ebillyboi 22 дня назад

      vote a socialist in and ruin the country for decades as the previous labour time did

    • @johnclements6614
      @johnclements6614 22 дня назад +89

      Vote out to help out.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 22 дня назад +7

      Red and blue tory

    • @theplasteredfinger5942
      @theplasteredfinger5942 22 дня назад +14

      @@johnclements6614 love it... going to nick it, thanks!!

  • @Bella_Kilcher
    @Bella_Kilcher 22 дня назад +810

    I may be confused here, but isn't mandatory unpaid work a euphemism for slavery

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +2

      @Bella Not confused but ill informed.

    • @Flash_Mexxy
      @Flash_Mexxy 21 день назад +47

      ​@@chatham43 misinformed you say? It's definitely one foot in that particular grave.

    • @LuciferOnEarth1234
      @LuciferOnEarth1234 21 день назад +59

      in Austria we do have something like this policy(only men have to sacrifice a year of their life, while their female friends move on with their life) and this really is legally excepted from the anti slavery law.
      I really wish the british youth to not have to get robbed of a year of their life, like myself and most Austrian males were...

    • @user-bb3hg5ql3f
      @user-bb3hg5ql3f 21 день назад +4

      Yes

    • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
      @user-ol6rd7pl5t 21 день назад

      They are already trying to enter the people trafficking market with their Rwanda scheme why branch out into the slavery market too.

  • @paulastevenson387
    @paulastevenson387 21 день назад +77

    Commenting as an old woman and I have never heard such disgraceful nonsense in all my life.

  • @user-jo9yw6bj6z
    @user-jo9yw6bj6z 21 день назад +59

    Cleverly using the word 'honest' from a party that told us they did not party in lock down, told us that brexit would make food cheaper, that told us £350 million per week would be given to the NHS, told us they were going to build 40 hospitals!

  • @danielcraig4974
    @danielcraig4974 22 дня назад +649

    Send the Tories to the front line.

    • @niltonc.7333
      @niltonc.7333 22 дня назад +11

      if the tories are sent to front lines, prince harry and william will be piloting the helicopeters !!! LOL

    • @marcusantoniusAfterDark
      @marcusantoniusAfterDark 22 дня назад +2

      Why? In case of being save every country must be prepared and bec of Putin it’s time to get that into your head.
      Do not understand why it’s bad to learn how to take responsibility, 6 month in a „social“ job or military

    • @40yearoldvirgil15
      @40yearoldvirgil15 21 день назад +3

      ​@@marcusantoniusAfterDark small government 😂😂

    • @inspectortanzi
      @inspectortanzi 21 день назад +2

      ​@@niltonc.7333 That's OK - they're disposable.

    • @Adam-pu6jg
      @Adam-pu6jg 21 день назад +14

      Send the tories to Rwanda!

  • @davidbradford8542
    @davidbradford8542 22 дня назад +771

    The Tories are running out of people to alienate.

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin 22 дня назад +23

      They still have the pensioner left...

    • @alimantado373
      @alimantado373 22 дня назад +21

      @@franklingoodwin Pensioners have boomed with the rule of the Tories. Other people on benefits were sent out to the streets in chain gangs to earn their benefits, pensioners have had their benefits increased in line with inflation, thats why they have voted Tory, prolonging austerity.
      No they are the Tories core voters, they wont attack them.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 22 дня назад +12

      @@alimantado373 But they have. Think this through. You're elderly, need dressings changed. There's a knock at the door, an untrained yoof is there, can't do the job, and waltzes off with your purse.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +2

      @david True

    • @niltonc.7333
      @niltonc.7333 22 дня назад +6

      @@franklingoodwin they will f... the pensioners to be able to cut the NI

  • @imaca6538
    @imaca6538 21 день назад +35

    I don’t think it was possible for the Conservative Party to absolutely disgust me more but here we are

  • @williammccusker1722
    @williammccusker1722 21 день назад +53

    If this is "the best country in the world" I'd be petrified to travel abroad.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 21 день назад

      @william It isn't so you're free to go.

    • @RockdownPlus
      @RockdownPlus 21 день назад

      ​@@chatham43why are you telling him to leave the UK? Are you some kind of internet immigration officer🤡🤡

    • @neildonaghy123
      @neildonaghy123 21 день назад +3

      ​@@chatham43twit

    • @user-yt5yf4zc5f
      @user-yt5yf4zc5f 20 дней назад +2

      Spain is a FAR better country.

    • @BrofessorDG
      @BrofessorDG 20 дней назад

      Hah may I steal?

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 22 дня назад +911

    I say anyone who still plans on voting Tory should be recruited to a new national service in which they're taught critical thinking and selflessness.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +1

      @hg By you? If so we thank you for giving up your valuable time.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 22 дня назад +17

      Great idea 💡.

    • @kamranraja9197
      @kamranraja9197 22 дня назад +11

      Absolutely correct

    • @segue2ant395
      @segue2ant395 22 дня назад +64

      ​@@chatham43 Nah, doesn't need to be someone qualified. The average toddler has a firmer moral compass and better work ethic than a Tory.

    • @shelleyscloud3651
      @shelleyscloud3651 22 дня назад +3

      Tory OR Labour

  • @thomascostello5431
    @thomascostello5431 22 дня назад +417

    "Were sick of young people protesting our horrendous policies, so lets make them spend their weekends in work camps"

  • @thegoat11111
    @thegoat11111 21 день назад +36

    The Tory plan to have zero seats gathers momentum. 😂

  • @BevMattocks
    @BevMattocks 21 день назад +20

    Isn't this unpaid 'voluntary' work what criminals who don't go to jail get sentenced to?

    • @Dryhten1801
      @Dryhten1801 21 день назад +4

      yes. 300 hours community service is a punishment proportionate to severe property theft

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t 21 день назад +220

    Don't worry kids, it's not just you they hate, it's the sick, the disabled, the unemployed, doctors nurses, teachers, train drivers & anyone who wasn't born in the UK.

    • @Ryoko007
      @Ryoko007 21 день назад +6

      yep, spot on. Great comment. I hate the tories.

    • @timthegallant
      @timthegallant 21 день назад +2

      Have said the same.the tories rely on those with the same narrow mindset.those that choose to look back to a britain that may or may not have once existed.anyone with genuine empathy and compassion need not apply.

    • @FallenPhoenix86
      @FallenPhoenix86 20 дней назад +2

      ​@@timthegallant
      You have to wonder what their plan is once those that remember the "glory days" have died off... wont take much longer.

    • @timthegallant
      @timthegallant 20 дней назад +1

      @@FallenPhoenix86 true those tory voters are closer to the end of their lives then they are to young people or understanding the mindset of the youngsters that will be the population of the future.

    • @stevemcloughlin4136
      @stevemcloughlin4136 18 дней назад

      And everybody else...except themselves 😊

  • @ianhalsall-fox
    @ianhalsall-fox 21 день назад +340

    Divide the country over 14 years and blame the 18 year olds!

    • @mvdp3784
      @mvdp3784 21 день назад +9

      Spot on

    • @AmillionpraiseTV
      @AmillionpraiseTV 21 день назад +2

      No blame the terrorists

    • @7dtdfil730
      @7dtdfil730 20 дней назад +9

      ​@@AmillionpraiseTVso that'd be the tories... and nearly all other politicians and lobbyists then. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @MetalRocksMe.
      @MetalRocksMe. 16 дней назад

      Even though they were four years old when they came into power 🤷‍♀️🤷

    • @oyoyism
      @oyoyism 16 дней назад +1

      Well a combination of four year olds and labour from 14 years ago, and people escaping war torn countries. Everyone except rich CEOs basically

  • @williamtudor
    @williamtudor 21 день назад +33

    As a Gen X I can honestly say that young people do NOT live in 'their own little bubble', they are literally the most diverse and inclusive generation we have ever had. They also have to work harder than any previous generation and for an awful lot less. It's the boomers who absolutely live in their own little comfy bubble with little to no understanding of how others think or feel, or indeed, the challenges they face. Perhaps its time we looked at how the boomers could make an actual contribution to society instead of the current condition wherein they are the beneficiaries of everyone else's hard work. These tories are absolute crackpots and clearly in full troll mode now that they know they will lose at the next general election.

    • @sammanthorpe
      @sammanthorpe 19 дней назад +2

      Thanks for saying this. It needed to be said. Fellow GenXer with young adult kids.

    • @speciesmg7537
      @speciesmg7537 19 дней назад +2

      Same. Also GenXer. I've found them, on average, more open and curious than we were at that age - and certainly more than our parents' generation

    • @sadies2820
      @sadies2820 18 дней назад +2

      I certainly agree that this suggestion by the Tories is ridiculous and pointless. However I also see that as a Gen X you get a lot of your frustrations out by blaming the baby boomers of which I am one. Please do not tar us all with the same brush. Not all boomers are wealthy and living comfortable lives. I am 70. I have worked as a nurse all my life - at times, when on call, working a 24 hour shift with no sleep and for a fairly low pay at the time. The government changed our pension ages by six years without informing us in time to make provision for our old age. This lost me approx £45,000. I live in a terrace house in Barnsley - when I bought it the mortgage interest rate was around 17% - and due to ill health had to leave work when I finally got my pension. I now volunteer to walk dogs for elderly and people with terminal illnesses so they can keep their pets at home. I help raise money for local theatre which has a very active youth group and I volunteer to help raise funds for our local hospice. I litter pick every week and help with litter bins on our local walking trail. I would not say that I am in my own little comfy bubble. Lets not get angry with other generations - lets get angry with the governments that put us in this position.

    • @sammanthorpe
      @sammanthorpe 18 дней назад +3

      @@sadies2820 I agree, and my Mum has already corrected me on this. My reaction to this was that I found it infuriating that the home secreatary was trying to blame young people for the country's problems after they (the Conservative party) have been in power for 14 years. No offence intended to boomers, love genXer.

    • @sadies2820
      @sadies2820 18 дней назад +3

      @@sammanthorpe the government prefers to set the generations against each other rather than them. Thank you for your comments.

  • @nigelstones
    @nigelstones 21 день назад +17

    This is just unbelievable, I’ve 2 sons 18 and 21……. I want my kids to have choice….the Tories have lost it completely….. they have just lost millions of young votes. I think they know they are going to lose, and they are making sure they lose by a record margin!

    • @frankcooke3859
      @frankcooke3859 19 дней назад +2

      Have they forgotten APPRENTICESHIP? What party was it that abandoned Youth Training? 😅😅

  • @Rexel4th
    @Rexel4th 21 день назад +288

    Step 1: Cut support services for young people, saddle them with debt, spend a decade denigrating them.
    Step 2: Force them to work for free
    Step 3: Use their tax money to pay your friends at G4S, Serco etc. to "coordinate" the National Service.
    Step 4: Wonder why younger people overwhelmingly hate the Tories.

    • @robertlocock5636
      @robertlocock5636 21 день назад +15

      And make it harder for them to vote or complain about it.

    • @Ryoko007
      @Ryoko007 21 день назад

      wow that sounds so much worse. I hate the tories so much. they have destroyed anyone liking living here in the uk now.

    • @fin1131
      @fin1131 20 дней назад +3

      Step 5, make idiots think the tories and labour are not a WEF uni party

    • @petewylde1227
      @petewylde1227 20 дней назад +2

      'Step 3: Use their tax money to pay your friends at G4S, Serco etc. to "coordinate" the National Service.' THIS

    • @Sup3rH4ns
      @Sup3rH4ns 13 дней назад

      And give none of those who would be affected by this the opportunity to vote in this election. The only people who will be making this decision, will by definition be the people who are not going to have to do it.

  • @trevorsimmons3811
    @trevorsimmons3811 22 дня назад +301

    Says the party responsible for stoking culture wars. Shameless

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 21 день назад +1

      @trevor Well both main parties are responsible for that. Always been thus. Wake up.

    • @rodbenson5879
      @rodbenson5879 21 день назад

      Exactly.

    • @francescapowell1538
      @francescapowell1538 21 день назад +5

      @@chatham43Fair point… However, with the likes of Patel and Braverman at the helm when it comes to culture wars one can see how the tories have been at the forefront of this of late.
      The lockdowns didn’t help, had whole families at each others throats and not speaking for a while there.

    • @yetidodger6650
      @yetidodger6650 21 день назад +9

      @@chatham43 any examples of Labour stoking a culture war?

    • @PatOfTheRick
      @PatOfTheRick 21 день назад +1

      Problem with the both sides argument is one side has government ministers stoking the culture war in lieu of governing, and the other side is some people on Twitter.

  • @stevewilliams8606
    @stevewilliams8606 21 день назад +14

    I am in danger of urinating with laughter at this . Monty Python has nothing on this.

    • @alexanderstefanov6474
      @alexanderstefanov6474 21 день назад

      You couldn't make up a government this incompetent and corrupt at the same time

  • @markwelch317
    @markwelch317 21 день назад +16

    Rishi doesn't want to win. They've taken or destroyed everything. They just want an excuse to leave now

    • @johnnyhall3942
      @johnnyhall3942 21 день назад

      I think that is pretty clear to see.

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 22 дня назад +403

    Not content with taking away people's right to free speech and to protest; having saddled students with debts running into £100k with no prospects of owning a home or a stable job, they're now trying to trap them into indentured servitude.

    • @lestrem11
      @lestrem11 22 дня назад +8

      You should become a dentist children. Mine just charged me £2,000 for 2 visits.👍🤪

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 22 дня назад +8

      ​​​@@lestrem11and you payed it!.??and could afford to pay it 😂?you must be minted 😂.

    • @lestrem11
      @lestrem11 22 дня назад +7

      @@paul8161 Hardly. The choice was having ill fitting dental plates or paying for some new ones. I had saved the money for such ‘emergencies’ by going without other things. It is called taking responsibility for your life.👍

    • @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
      @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword 22 дня назад +7

      Make sure you vote if you want to get rid of them.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 22 дня назад +11

      @@lestrem11 you are lucky u are in a job to save that kind of money not everyone is, and that's taking responsibility is well. And yes dentists are a rip off I agree..bit of smugness I see in your reply. 🤣

  • @patrickhowell5578
    @patrickhowell5578 22 дня назад +464

    July 4th can't come soon enough! I can't stand the Tory BS any longer!

    • @lestrem11
      @lestrem11 22 дня назад +4

      Already being replaced with Labour bs , child.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +6

      @patrick Sorry to bring you down to planet earth...but the BS ain't going away.

    • @niltonc.7333
      @niltonc.7333 22 дня назад +10

      @@lestrem11 two wrongs don't make one right, so as we had the bs of tories for 14ys, lets try the bs of Labour now for a change, shall we?

    • @lestrem11
      @lestrem11 22 дня назад +2

      @@niltonc.7333 Doesn’t bother me in the slightest who is in government but let’s not pretend Labour offer ‘change’ when they won’t 🤪even nationalise the water companies.

    • @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
      @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword 22 дня назад +6

      @@niltonc.7333At least they're not going to do this.

  • @user-zn2ki7ne1n
    @user-zn2ki7ne1n 21 день назад +9

    They despise young people. Imagine them implementing this and finding out just how little young people are invested in a country that consistently kicked them to the curb their entire conscious life.

  • @timmk94
    @timmk94 21 день назад +3

    Lewis,
    I’m 30 this year, and my entire voting life the tories have actively made my life harder at every twist and turn. I have no reference for adult life without a government deliberately making my life harder. I hope the next 5 years are different.

  • @susanfrancis3966
    @susanfrancis3966 21 день назад +203

    James is very cleverly showing us why we should NOT vote Tory.

    • @martynsmith8120
      @martynsmith8120 21 день назад +13

      For someone named Cleverly he is really thick.

    • @andersonking73
      @andersonking73 21 день назад

      I see what you did there 😂

    • @fin1131
      @fin1131 20 дней назад

      They are preparing the agenda for their WEF uni party mate STARMER, wake up.

    • @amranmarhubi7290
      @amranmarhubi7290 20 дней назад +1

      Very uncleverly

  • @leesimpson6334
    @leesimpson6334 22 дня назад +460

    Except..the Tories caused the break up of community. They have constantly cut services to youth centres, demolished sure start and Thatcher introduced everyone for themselves neoliberal capitalism

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq 22 дня назад +16

      Exactly.

    • @ashleywilson2072
      @ashleywilson2072 22 дня назад +34

      .. also young people cannot afford a mortgage, rents are expensive, the prospect of having children diminishes as a result. Will they want to fight for a future in a bedsit / house share / tent

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 22 дня назад +36

      "There's no such thing as society" said Thatcher, and we're still reaping the rewards of that mindset.

    • @sluglife9785
      @sluglife9785 22 дня назад +1

      Does that mean we won't allow them to change?

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 22 дня назад +1

      ​@sluglife9785 who are you referring to changing?

  • @rtimewell7746
    @rtimewell7746 16 дней назад +4

    Young people live in a bubble? Have you ever spoken to a boomer?

  • @matthorner35
    @matthorner35 21 день назад +5

    Jesus. Christ. Any tory not feeling embarrassed right now must have super human powers.

    • @ArtyFactual_Intelligence
      @ArtyFactual_Intelligence 21 день назад

      Rhinoceros skin.

    • @kevinhutchinson8336
      @kevinhutchinson8336 18 дней назад

      The country is run by idiots. Thankfully this current government should make sure the tory party isn't in power for a very long time

  • @RussySprout
    @RussySprout 22 дня назад +252

    Let’s see how many children of Tory Ministers take part in this “compulsory” practice!

    • @40yearoldvirgil15
      @40yearoldvirgil15 21 день назад +20

      Big fines to the parents who don't force their kids to do it...oh wait so hitting the poorest most

    • @placebo2020
      @placebo2020 21 день назад +14

      They set the rules so will be exempt 😂

    • @faithpearlgenied-a5517
      @faithpearlgenied-a5517 21 день назад +8

      ​@@placebo2020They won't be though because in a month and a half they'll be gone 😂

    • @paulandhisguitars
      @paulandhisguitars 21 день назад

      @40yearoldvirgil15 Big fines to parents? For what adults refuse to do?

    • @craftinghome
      @craftinghome 19 дней назад +2

      I imagine, if they take part at all, their voluntary work will be in art galleries, opera houses, museums, yacht clubs and TV studios such as GB News or BBC.

  • @stevejw52
    @stevejw52 22 дня назад +210

    Hats off to Lewis, he's asking some pleasantly, awkward questions.

    • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
      @user-sd3ik9rt6d 22 дня назад +16

      Quiet words spoken quietly make the loudest sound.

  • @Human_Herbivore
    @Human_Herbivore 21 день назад +7

    He is central to a party that foments division and hate in everything is says and does. Yet he has to deal with that sort of thing. Shameless.

  • @Mr.Edd3905
    @Mr.Edd3905 21 день назад +7

    Didn't Sunak have a promotional video saying "we don't want to interfere with your lives", yet he wants to bring in National service for young people, ban smoking for people of a certain age, and flirts with leaving the echr.

  • @Silver-st2zq
    @Silver-st2zq 22 дня назад +214

    "Bringing people together" the Tories!!!! 😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 22 дня назад +11

      Once the people come together, they'd better run.

    • @pplesandoranges
      @pplesandoranges 22 дня назад +13

      They do! Against the Tories, that is.

    • @mikesmith8187
      @mikesmith8187 20 дней назад +1

      Oh they’re bringing people together alright, so they can fight each other.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 20 дней назад +1

      @@mikesmith8187 Could be the risk round here - we're on the edge of the OBF-Greens Drill War zone.

  • @grahamturner1290
    @grahamturner1290 22 дня назад +293

    Get the Tories OUT.

  • @JT71087
    @JT71087 18 дней назад +2

    We want everyone to be included, no matter if you're rich or poor, and if you don't do it, your parents will be fined. So if you're rich you don't have to do it.

  • @robertlocock5636
    @robertlocock5636 21 день назад +3

    Being lectured by a Tory about honesty is just fecking priceless 😂

  • @debb6393
    @debb6393 22 дня назад +204

    They created culture wars and now trying to use it for this totally mad policy. You can tell they’ve not thought this through, it’s an embarrassment.

    • @roderickjoyce6716
      @roderickjoyce6716 22 дня назад +16

      Cleverly isn't very clever.

    • @Seb1l
      @Seb1l 21 день назад

      The left created the modern culture war whilst the right continued the financial war on the Youth & Impoverished

    • @gtully40
      @gtully40 21 день назад +2

      What's not thought through, it's enforced voluntary work that has no actual enforcement.
      Clear as mud

    • @RockdownPlus
      @RockdownPlus 21 день назад

      ​@@wheyayeman404lol.

  • @user-bb3hg5ql3f
    @user-bb3hg5ql3f 21 день назад +120

    Lewis is brilliant calling out this BS

    • @user-hy6tl6su4z
      @user-hy6tl6su4z 21 день назад +4

      Fanstastic interview. He could replace the might JoB at some point. Very insighful. Roasted the stoopid Cleverly.

    • @richardbannister-jz8so
      @richardbannister-jz8so 21 день назад

      It is bs isn’t it?

    • @davem4131
      @davem4131 20 дней назад

      Inflation back to normality? Get over it

  • @peaseyboi
    @peaseyboi 13 дней назад +4

    Who else thinks this idea is politically suicidal for the entire party?

    • @davidmccann9811
      @davidmccann9811 13 дней назад +2

      It's like the Tories can't stop throwing themselves under the bus.

  • @kenk4269
    @kenk4269 21 день назад +6

    Send cleverly to national service it would be the first time he's ever done anything not self serving. What a clown.

  • @mickreaddin4979
    @mickreaddin4979 22 дня назад +110

    Remember, this is the same man who defended Johnson AND Truss for all their shenanigans.

  • @1967deek
    @1967deek 22 дня назад +142

    What he means they will work for nothing vote the Tories out.

    • @katong1953
      @katong1953 20 дней назад

      I've done national service. Let me tell you it's no fun. Why? The military is a very regimented place.

  • @adamcunningham6746
    @adamcunningham6746 21 день назад +5

    National Service - the Tories can f*** right off with that.

  • @knightsnight5929
    @knightsnight5929 21 день назад +3

    I guess Sunak looked back on his military service and voluntary work and thought...

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t 21 день назад +110

    See kids, this is why you should never vote Tory. It's not the only reason just one of a very long list.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 21 день назад

      @user Kids? What a condescending term. They aren't goats. They are young people!

  • @splintercast8092
    @splintercast8092 21 день назад +98

    So the Tory government has spent half a billion pounds on sending nobody to Rwanda. Round of applause. Your economic fecklessness knows no bounds.

  • @NinetySix4
    @NinetySix4 20 дней назад +3

    The young will refuse. Their freedom is not yours to take.

  • @dawnivison7678
    @dawnivison7678 21 день назад +4

    I’m embarrassed for Cleverley having to flounder in the face of logic here. The Tories seem to have totally lost the plot.

  • @ColaSpandex
    @ColaSpandex 22 дня назад +74

    This is how thick they think we are because we didn't go to Eton.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад

      @Cola Here we go again. We can't all afford to go to Eton. Get over it!

    • @ColaSpandex
      @ColaSpandex 21 день назад +3

      @@chatham43 £50k a year is peanuts. Who said anything about the fees?

  • @Altashheth08
    @Altashheth08 21 день назад +83

    If investing in young people is the smart thing…. Why have the tories cut all the youth services and education over the last 14 years?

    • @JP-hu8wi
      @JP-hu8wi 21 день назад +2

      I think because young people don’t vote consistently. Any group that doesn’t consistently vote will either not get anything or have things taken away from them so it can be given to those who do. But I agree - even inspite of my above point, Tory’s would only invest in young people if there was a way to profit from that investment - it needs to be a pipeline to take tax payer money out of the treasury and in a mate’s bank account offshore

  • @user-cs1dt2xw4c
    @user-cs1dt2xw4c 21 день назад +2

    These politicians are criminals.

  • @mike_oflynn
    @mike_oflynn 21 день назад +2

    Young people living in a bubble 😂😂😂😂
    Like, these tories are not in a bubble, are they?

  • @davidjames2910
    @davidjames2910 22 дня назад +103

    'Elections are about choices.'
    Yup, even conservative parents will turn this down.

  • @roaringscot
    @roaringscot 22 дня назад +64

    The desperation is now palpable.

  • @JD-mf9zm
    @JD-mf9zm 21 день назад +1

    Should MPs that back this motion and those that vote for them lead by example? Regardless of age, or perceived social standing.

  • @christiansimmons630
    @christiansimmons630 21 день назад +1

    “A duty to be open and honest” oh the utter irony James when your government has been caught lying how many times? 😂🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @s0ycapitan
    @s0ycapitan 22 дня назад +88

    This is a totally ridiculous policy which will be incredibly unpopular.

  • @cathalhex7948
    @cathalhex7948 22 дня назад +89

    hopefully this will get 18 year olds to vote

    • @jayes776
      @jayes776 21 день назад

      For Reform!

    • @carlpierce2486
      @carlpierce2486 21 день назад +17

      Reform isnt reform it is tory rejects...

    • @alexrae7348
      @alexrae7348 21 день назад +6

      Perfect example of why 16 Yr old should get the vote

  • @2ag816
    @2ag816 21 день назад +6

    What about all the kids who have weekend jobs? Waitrose won’t have any staff at the weekends, will they?

    • @zaedenuk
      @zaedenuk 20 дней назад +1

      They will at my local waitrose 80% of their workforce near me is over 50. 😆

  • @FUT-Franklin
    @FUT-Franklin 17 дней назад +1

    Imagine being a 18year old and being blackmailed with their own free time over the prospect of getting conscripted.... slavery is coming back

  • @ignoranceisbliss6259
    @ignoranceisbliss6259 22 дня назад +201

    I may be confused here, but isn't mandatory unpaid work a euphemism for slavery?

    • @ebillyboi
      @ebillyboi 22 дня назад +1

      character building is a problem for you

    • @notwhatitwasbefore
      @notwhatitwasbefore 22 дня назад

      They try to get people on job seekers to work for local companies without pay all the time. If people refuse they can have their payments cut, they talk quite openly about people needing to work for benefits that would mean working for who they are told to not who they choose to for way less than minimum wage. Its has been happening for years and this is now the second election they have been pushing the concept to be more widely utilised.

    • @millrace32
      @millrace32 22 дня назад

      extending this aside, one could raise the objection that 'slavery' refers to a way of living - or not living - & that the entity being forwarded is very different owing to the fact it's undertaken only periodically, & then by arrangement, with - no-doubt - significant latitude as to the terms of that arrangement to which the doer is allowed to contribute

    • @jamesharrison2763
      @jamesharrison2763 22 дня назад +17

      ​@@ebillyboiyou serve in the military? Will you be joining?

    • @debb6393
      @debb6393 22 дня назад +14

      @@ebillyboi you heard this part about them having a job and still having to give up time to do this ? That’s not volunteering is it? You can do that now, join TA if you want to. Who will be enforcing this too? How much will that be costing ? Most kids nowadays are fine but Tories seem to have issues with them (perhaps it’s the Tories that need character building )

  • @tonyb9735
    @tonyb9735 22 дня назад +66

    They don't hate young people, they just see that the young can be used to subsidise public services with their labour, rather than rich Tories having to do so with their cash.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 22 дня назад +1

      Oh yes, you can see it now. Multiple car crash, they add petrol just to see what happens.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад

      @tony One of the most dog eared pages in the lefty handbook.😊

    • @tonyb9735
      @tonyb9735 21 день назад

      @@chatham43 "One of the most dog eared pages in the lefty handbook"
      Just saying what I see. Under this government, the rich got richer, and students were burdened with massive debt. The Tories cut spending on the military, the rich still got richer, and now the Tories want to conscript the young.
      That's the reality of what's happening, it's no "lefty handbook".

  • @easternbrown
    @easternbrown 21 день назад +2

    Is this ridiculous? Or sinister? The more they talk, the more I think the latter. Either way I haven't listened to Cleverly before and find it shocking that he has such an important job in government given the way he's talking here. Britain really is in a bad place.

    • @gillb9222
      @gillb9222 21 день назад

      It's 1938 Germany and here comes the H*tl*r Youth programme

  • @Anton-ji4td
    @Anton-ji4td 21 день назад +2

    I am sure the police will love enforcing this! We dont have enough police to investigate todays crimes!

  • @nightw4tchman
    @nightw4tchman 22 дня назад +70

    Superb work from the tories this week, like a clown running through a mine field set to the Benny Hill theme.

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 22 дня назад +3

      Forcing the Press to stand in a downpour - Welsh soccer - Titanic speech - infernal conscription. Sauron survived.

  • @1953mr
    @1953mr 22 дня назад +66

    I presume those at Eton will be automatically enrolled in the officer class. This is real bottom of the barrel stuff. They are making this up on the hoof. Nonesense.

  • @davidcronan4072
    @davidcronan4072 21 день назад +2

    "invested in the infrastructure" Don't you mean wasted millions and millions of pounds?

  • @ArnoldFlibble
    @ArnoldFlibble 21 день назад +2

    If this shows anything it is that the Tories are fighting to survive an election not win an election. Normally they would propose much more moderate things to appeal to moderate voters but they are losing their far right base of voters to Reform or not-voting. Normally they can just take them for granted but they are actually having to try and appeal to them so they can survive the election.

  • @acleronacleron7104
    @acleronacleron7104 22 дня назад +90

    Cleverly is a Territorial Officer, you couldn't get more in a bubble. Let him live on Universal Benefit for a year to really find out what life is about.

    • @MarkStevens8899
      @MarkStevens8899 22 дня назад +9

      Exactly, how dare he accuse youngsters of living in a bubble, and who on earth is he or anyone else to tell others how they should live and who they should mix with?.

    • @mchbayern1075
      @mchbayern1075 21 день назад +1

      All the politicians live in a bubble.

  • @hg82met
    @hg82met 22 дня назад +138

    "Fragmentation across the country" complains the Home Secretary of the party that's spent the last 14 years wreaking socioeconomic havoc and more latterly has taken on engaging in manufactured culture wars to divide people further.

    • @fenderek666
      @fenderek666 21 день назад

      Privately educated.
      That has nothing to do with fragmentation...

  • @chrishughes3206
    @chrishughes3206 20 дней назад +1

    Hearing what the Tories are planning for young people, doesn't make me feel proud to be British, quite the opposite. This is a disgraceful policy by a party that has quite clearly lose the plot. Only 6 weeks to go now until normal service is resumed.

  • @tomjones1506
    @tomjones1506 21 день назад +1

    Home secretary clearly doesn't know the british values taught in schools atm. One of them literally being individual liberty 🧐

  • @Manu-Official
    @Manu-Official 22 дня назад +70

    ''You're going to learn maths until you're 18, so you can count bullets after that.''
    Rishi ''The Plan 💩☂'' Sunak

  • @RugbyPass81
    @RugbyPass81 22 дня назад +34

    "Tories, do you hate young people?"
    Tories; "no, don't be silly, we don't hate *_all_* young people, just _working class_ young people. Look, we love the young people from our class, from the upper, billionaire, wealthy, corporate class. It's just the working class youth that we hate. Hope that clarifies"

  • @johntthomson7538
    @johntthomson7538 21 день назад +2

    First it’s pensioners they hate now it’s young people. Nuts, who is next?

  • @edge63000
    @edge63000 16 дней назад +3

    Cant afford to pay public services because your old rich mates are hording all the money... Get the young to do it for free. Just tell it how it is, you want people to work for free because you don't want to take money back from the people who fund your campaign.

    • @davidmccann9811
      @davidmccann9811 13 дней назад +2

      Yep, even minimum wage is too costly for them. They basically want the British working class to be serfs, labouring away for free to increase their already obscene profits.

  • @BlaizeV
    @BlaizeV 22 дня назад +76

    I came of voting age in 2010, I cannot even begin to describe how much damage these tories and those that have voted for them have caused. The UK has changed so much since then. They have utterly gutted it. Ghouls the lot of them.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +1

      @Blaize So you won't be voting Tory this time?

    • @BlaizeV
      @BlaizeV 21 день назад +4

      @@chatham43 never have and never will

  • @moehanadaden5127
    @moehanadaden5127 22 дня назад +44

    Tories have lost the plot it's now a insane asylum at tory HQ

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq 22 дня назад +1

      They even put their umbrella's up indoors but not outdoors now 😆😂🤣

    • @JelMain
      @JelMain 22 дня назад +1

      Poor Rowan Atkinson, they've surpassed him. How long until he's fish-slapping?

    • @alexritchie4586
      @alexritchie4586 21 день назад +1

      'Now'?

  • @wijjf8064
    @wijjf8064 21 день назад +2

    Get them out, keep them out, consignee then to the history books

  • @christinehammell6365
    @christinehammell6365 21 день назад +1

    These 18 year olds " living in their bubbles " have just come out of school. Why do they then want to have them work for nothing ? By 18 my grandchildren were desperate for jobs and earning money and indeed did .

  • @TheLampini
    @TheLampini 22 дня назад +25

    If you wanted young people to socialise - why close down all the YOUTH CLUBS??? Why close down SURE START centres?? I call BS.

  • @bowlingarry
    @bowlingarry 21 день назад +49

    Hatred and anger doesnt cover my feelings for these people. Go away. Go right away

    • @Silver-st2zq
      @Silver-st2zq 21 день назад +4

      Same here they continue to repeatly turn the stomach, roll on the 4th of July general election and they become a distant memory..................

  • @raymondharrison1425
    @raymondharrison1425 21 день назад +1

    Wouldn't trust cleverly to plan a route to the subsidised canteen at house of parliament!😂

  • @MyShilva
    @MyShilva 21 день назад +1

    Lewis Goodall, you are an amazing presenter. Thank you and to LBC for giving you a platform.

  • @splintercast8092
    @splintercast8092 21 день назад +56

    The best national service anyone can do is to not vote Tory in the general election.

  • @davidjames2910
    @davidjames2910 22 дня назад +58

    Lewis has done his homework here, quality questions.

  • @lcg8220
    @lcg8220 14 дней назад +1

    I like how he says its so both rich and poor have to work together and they've since clarified it will be a monetary fine if you don't do it.
    Wonder who is going to just take the fine.

  • @petermaitland1792
    @petermaitland1792 21 день назад +2

    "Parents to be very keen" which parents are those?

  • @illasbonez1708
    @illasbonez1708 22 дня назад +37

    Every time they speak I'm just so shocked how a group of people so inept, and just bad at politics, have reached the most senior political roles in the country. Its astonishing.

    • @salkoharper2908
      @salkoharper2908 22 дня назад +1

      Corruption, Nepotism, Greed and overall a complete lack of morality and integrity of the older generation voters who kept them in power.

  • @SjB-qo1pt
    @SjB-qo1pt 22 дня назад +92

    Having spent 24yrs in the army the last thing we need is people being forced into the role. I would rather be on the battlefield with soldiers who joined out of respect and wanting to do service for our country not those being forced to join.

    • @chatham43
      @chatham43 22 дня назад +3

      @SjB Doubt whether they'll be on the battlefield. Cleaning the latrines maybe..

    • @Flash_Mexxy
      @Flash_Mexxy 21 день назад

      ​@@chatham43 If they have their way with the Russian proxy war then they won't be. There's a reason they're doing this now.

    • @michaelkinsey4649
      @michaelkinsey4649 21 день назад +2

      Totally!!

    • @seamus7054
      @seamus7054 21 день назад +3

      That's a fantastic point.

    • @eddiecalderone
      @eddiecalderone 21 день назад

      @SJB
      First and foremost, thank you for your service, I mean it.
      I am sure there won’t be conscripts in any sensitive areas, but there is a lot of evidence that clearly shows a number of young people here in this country are hostile to the U.K. and what it represents……

  • @MoonPix1985
    @MoonPix1985 21 день назад +1

    A Tory minister complaining that people live in their own bubble. Amazing lack of self-insight.

  • @jonnyjaywick
    @jonnyjaywick 20 дней назад +1

    bringing people together by forcing them into boot camp. Brilliant.

  • @PrinceOfCats5
    @PrinceOfCats5 22 дня назад +122

    Compulsory community or military service. The way they're speaking today, you would think every 18 year old in the country is a youth offender

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 22 дня назад

      I honestly think some of these old Conservatives actually think this. They think if young people aren’t playing games on an XBox or on social media the rest of their time is spent listening to rap or drill music followed by committing crimes and being a menace to society!

    • @Thechatteringclasses-oj6zy
      @Thechatteringclasses-oj6zy 22 дня назад +8

      Yes, loads have jobs. Also some young girls have a baby. This isn’t thought through. It smacks of desperation.

    • @p0tter80
      @p0tter80 21 день назад

      If you are a young offender, you don’t get punished though. 🤦‍♂️😂

  • @taz09216
    @taz09216 22 дня назад +146

    I propose politicians serve at least 6 months in military before running for elections?? How about that? should be a prerequisite

    • @1953mr
      @1953mr 22 дня назад +16

      NOT in the officer class.

    • @1953mr
      @1953mr 22 дня назад +5

      Bring back Spike Milligan.....

    • @avenuePad
      @avenuePad 22 дня назад +7

      That's a terrible idea.

    • @jakel8627
      @jakel8627 22 дня назад +1

      Tobias Ellwood did. Ben Wallace did. Tom Tugendhart did.

    • @hg82met
      @hg82met 22 дня назад +11

      They should be forced to take mandatory ethics classes, for one.

  • @finlybenyunes8385
    @finlybenyunes8385 21 день назад +1

    Read between the lines: this is James Cleverly's first pitch for the leadership of what's left of the Tory Party after their defeat.

  • @speedyq7769
    @speedyq7769 14 дней назад +2

    My son is coming uo to 18, he is at college 4 days a week and works at least 2 days possibly 3 if he can get an extra shift. What this will do is essentially force him to work for free. I get the idea of national service, but I think they are going about it the wrong way. For me it would be better to target those who are not in education or working and force them to either volunteer or into a job or a trade.

  • @citizen530
    @citizen530 22 дня назад +76

    The Tories have divided the country, now they pretend they want to unite it.

    • @al-masihad-dajjal4565
      @al-masihad-dajjal4565 20 дней назад

      Not just the tories .....its all parties that call themselves the government

  • @ronturner3598
    @ronturner3598 21 день назад +34

    "Fragmentation" means rejecting Tory BS, he is fooling no one.

  • @wlchiswick
    @wlchiswick 21 день назад +1

    The Irony that most 18 yr olds for the past 2 decades literally already do charity work for the country as most are either: doing unpaid work, working for less than could sustain their basic needs or the lucky ones are swimming in student Debt.

  • @PeterKitching
    @PeterKitching 21 день назад +1

    I haven't listened to Lewis Goodall before - which appears to be a gross oversight on my part. Hearing the HS questioned about the tory National Service Policy my first impressions are that Lewis is a very astute interviewer, well armed with relevant facts at his fingertips. His tone is polite and respectful whilst being able to strike right to the heart of the subject to expose and challenge flaws, weaknesses and absurdity of the policy. You can see the HS start to flounder when faced with the logical challenges resulting in him resorting to a personal attack - a sure sign of defeat. It's such a valuable public service when media can effectively call the government and politicians to account. It's something that doesn't happen often enough elsewhere. Well done Lewis and LBC.