HR 3247 Bill to Ban Rifle Rated Body Armor Introduced Again
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- HR 3247 Bill to Ban Rifle Rated Body Armor Introduced Again
Just like it sounds. They're trying to ban body armor for civilian use once again. Something that is inherently defensive in nature. Here we go!
Body armor is a defensive tool that anyone should be allowed to have access to. Especially those who aren't capable of owning other measures of self defense. And yet, some of our politicians believe that us mere civilians do not need body armor because of the obvious threat we pose I guess? You tell me.
Here is a link to the bill. This is the 3rd time it has been introduced: www.congress.gov/bill/118th-c...
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Do you think HR 3427 has a chance? Why do they keep trying to ban something only defensive in nature?
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I like the Premier Everyday Armor, but it's still pretty warm. Couple Ts, set of inserts. And another backpack insert. So far the Ts do a good job of keeping the inserts where they might do some good.
I mean typically the only reason to ban body armor is so they can disappear you easier.
Most any legislation always has a chance of passing. I don't think this one is likely to for the reason that it's not something that looks like a priority that the right people are willing to spend political capital on. Bills like these are usually introduced so some politician can hold a press conference and say they are "doing something" about crime or gun violence.
Now, with that said, all that can change in a hurry if there is some mass shooting incident where the gunman uses armor and appears to have prolonged the rampage even a little bit with it. I think that's what got New Yorks's ban passed after years as a perennial bill that got nowhere.
If it's important to you, take the time to write your congress people. Give some intelligent reasons why it shouldn't be banned and don't include crazy rants about how it's time to rise up and water the tree of liberty or anything like that.
The surest way to get a body armor ban passed is to give them the political cover to be able to paint civilian body armor ownership as an extremist or domestic terror thing.
I thought body armor was a DEFENSIVE thing. Weird how a tyranical gov would not want people to own it UNLESS........
How many elected politicians are dual-citizens? How many secretly embrace com munism or bribes from the Red Dragon? More than anyone is willing to admit. Hell, even N0RAD lied about the damn špÿ balľoōns
Hmmmm 🤔
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brother, this is what the Citizens of the U.S. fail to comprehend, we have been infiltrated from the inside, what our brothers warn of, what most informed citizens fear, is already here. pay attention.
Poof goes another of my replies. YT and their algorithmic censorship is quite a frustration
Body armor has never un-alived anyone
You know why they are doing this
I hate when people ask why I need something. I'm American, my life is filled with wants, including a want to live.
As they sip on their latte
Imagine trying to take something away that can save your life
World bank wants to stop all farming by 2030 to help save the earth.
I agree. Having body armor, especially lightweight level 3+ or 4 is an asset.
Get it while it's available.
them trying to do this repetitively is a sign of who and what they are, and it isn't for The People.
Exactly the thousands of attempts to take our rights away over and over again consistently never-ending has become a serious problem for this country and the biggest problem is that most of the people don't see it
Just remember the armies plea's to congress on why they wanted a new rifle platform, they literally said people in america can buy body armor that can stop the 5.56 ammunition, and they wanted something that can defeat it
Army’s*. No run on sentences. Edit your post. Or you are Chinese.
Very disturbing, isn't it?
@tasty_waves_007 yes, I watched it live, and now I cannot find the video on it
@@Commonsensepreps 👍
I don't remember that. Chinese proliferation of acceptable-performance rifle-rated armor, yes. Domestic considerations? Oh, no doubt they _thought_ about it, but I'd be interested in hearing more about where they came out and said it openly and on-the-record.
Also. Sig USA has already released a .277 Fury bolt-action rifle and at least plans to make the .277 Fury versions of the MCX Spear available to civilians. As long as the DoD doesn't kill the M7 program, other manufacturers will inevitably start releasing products in that caliber.
As far as its ammo, a high-pressure hybrid-case bonded softpoint load is already on the open civilian market. Granted, that ammo is also _very_ expensive for the time being, but considering the currently limited adoption by the civilian market so far and the fact that Lake City hasn't come close to tooling up for true mass production, that's not a surprise.
Im getting mine asap.....tired of elected idiots taking away my right to protect myself🖕🖕🖕
*Selected, not elected
The brand he lists in his pinned comment has a fair price for the soft level III and it's on sale for under $300. That's not too bad for something you can wear everywhere, including on a plane.
Check out the agilite K-zero if you don't have a PC yet. A little pricey but super nice
@@feoxorushe's talking about rifle rated armor. And $300 is crazy for IIIa, I'm stocking IIIa soft panels for around $35 per panel
Botach makes a decent ceramic/polyethylene level IV plate for around $120
Time to outlaw spare tires , fire extinguishers and VACCINES !
Arms and armour are from the same root word.
How can they ban a sheet of metal, or porcelain floor tiles, UHMWPE thermoplastic polyethylene you know.. milk jugs.
Exactly
This is an on going game. That’s why a lot of the marshal arts weapons started life as farm implements. Tyranny doesn’t take a holiday.
Ban self protection ? What are they planning ?
They bought lots of ammo in years past. About all the 3 letter agencies have SWAT teams, even the Dept of Agriculture.
how could they pass something like this? It’s like banning a fire extinguisher
Stop right now. Don't give then any more ideas.
MP. You’ve been absolutely SLAYING it lately, brother. Truly appreciate you keeping us up-to-date. May need to spend a little money this weekend.
If the Government tells you, vis a vis The Law, you shouldn't own or possess something, then you know it's something you need...besides, when was the last time the Government was right about anything???
It's just one extra chip from our "Freedoms."
1000 cuts
Don't worry about body armor yourself, think about how to defeat it. Assume everyone is wearing it. Head , Pelvic girdle etc.
Sure would be a shame if the CMP had sold millions upon millions of rounds of .30-06 M2 AP to civvies. 😏
Cross the eyes and dot the T
Time to buy another set!
Good thing is Memorial Day sales weekend!
Another super informative video. As a former Military and Civilian Law Enforcement personnel, I have never seen an article of body armor, vest or helmet used as a weapon. (Wore it daily as an employee.). It is exactly what it is meant to be, a defense logical wearable article of clothing to aid in preventing an injury. I was highly trained to recognize a threat wearing such equipment. Practiced two shots Centered mass, one to the face (head). Criminals in most states are barred from owning such with severe penalties. (Oregon.)
Next they will do something more invasive of personal defense. (Criminals are known to lock doors. Must remove locks or have locks with universal keys which law enforcement or military can use.). Just saying!
Thanks for the heads up MP, I just ordered two level 4 ceramic plates.
Good video, thanks for sharing YAH bless !
Definition of arms under United States Constitution 2nd amendment includes "anything worn on the body for defense"
The right to have or use something is not predicated on "need".
If this bill passes, it will ban the possession, transfer, and sell of body armor levels 3 - 4.
😂😂😂 demarcates - fascist
We both know why they want all this.
Um, no!
I bought my first one the night before this bill came out. The timing was on point.
Literally they can’t ban steel. Just buy whatever grade of steel you need. Ar450, 500, 550, etc etc
Censorship
Stainless Steel works better
That 'enhanced grade' steel?
Ask Cleveland or Pittsburgh, about banning steel. Once it's all recycled 20 times, it's just pot metal.
Clearly this chat is heavily censored. As if that has never come back to bite one in the the butt.
Pittsburgh and Cleveland and a few others, would like a moment of your time...
Lost mine in the same tragic boating accident that took all my pew pews. Guess I should really stay on land. 😕
Regurgitating dumb psyop memes...
Thank you Magic !!!
Thank You for the information 👍
body armr has made me change my training to legs groin and head shot placement becuase it seems to me that it is just becoming common to have , 30-06 to the groin is a darn good game changer in my view
They tried that in Massachusetts once , put the fear in the preparedness community here including me , I went out bought a set of level 4 curved ceramics kits for everyone in my house hold. Bill failed, not even close to passing & I dropped a ton of money but glad I got them but wish I got them a little cheaper at the time but it was during the panic.
Would this affect New York, or the entire country?
Entire country.
Lol is there anything left to take from New York, probably can't defend yourself with a broomstick
There are people in NY that are armed to the teeth.
Someone write back to this politician, "thanks but fu** off".
10yrs in prison is a better price to pay than paying with your life in a defensive situation. If you're alive you can always fight the 10yr charge. Just saying.
Not if the only thing you did wrong is having it in the first place
@@Darthdoodoo that's what I'm talking about
Body armor is protected under the 2nd Amendment. And the courts have said so also. Arms at the time of writing the Constitution including things worn for protection.
Which is likely true but it would take a decade and more of litigation to get that sorted out.
The only reason to ban a purely defensive item is the desire to use offense against the subject.
Or to put it another way: The criminals the ATF *should* be going after are going to use body armor regardless of the laws. Since criminals, by definition, don't follow the laws.
Well I don't have any but now that they tell me I can't have it I'm gonna get it. 👍
They can try. I'm pretty sure my Rep will vote against it without any input from me but I'll let her know anyway.
If "they" want to prohibit me from ANYTHING, it's not for my benefit. That being said, I really don't care what they want or do anymore, those days are ancient history, as far as I'm concerned. I'm going to do whatever I think is best for me and rifle-rated body armor is one of those things.
I’m sure the Ukraine politicians were in the same mindset.
Weather looks beautiful there.
I picked up MIRA plates for $50 off each plate, so $400 for the set and then picked up the Agilite K-zero at $250. I'm happy but definitely plan on a second set in the foreseeable future.
Premier did an interview on the Hard Men podcast recently. Good company with good values.
I thought this was only for New York state. But we all know, give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
Pseudo-dystopian ??
We're already past that.
Ooohh yayyy. I guess it's time to buy a couple more sets. The bill probably doesn't have a chance anyway but if they wanna drive the market up again. I might as well. Lol
crazy
10 gauge steel stuffed in a plate carrier, or little pieces stuffed in a weight vest or paintball vest. Make shift body armor.
Weighs about the same, stops up to 308 as well. If memory serves me right.
*Double check by shooting some yourself. Been awhile since I made mine, and saw a video on it.
10 gauge will not stop .308 10 gauge is slightly thicker than 1/8"
You can improvise rifle rated armor with ceramic tiles over thick paper stacked tightly, but the paper is going to need to be about 3" thick. It will be combersome but it will stop most rifle rounds. I've made and tested this several times, stopped standard 5.56 & 7.62
@@paladin556 someone shot some gauge steel and yea, Not 308, but was I think 5.56 and below.
@@paladin556 It might have been thicker.
Mirasafety is a good place to stock up on armor
Body Armor is excellent for fitness training!
Indeed, and anyone that has it should be working out & running in it.
They’ll succeed eventually, I’m glad I bought some a few years back. Now I need to set a goal to get the lighter faster stuff bc I’m 47 & I’ll be 48 this year. I’m trying to not completely give up my OPSEC but let’s just say I feel like an armored tank & need to be a little lighter on my feet & feel like a flying tank instead of a grounded one…AKA a Warthog instead of an Abrams. Nonetheless I’ll tank feeling like a tank than not feeling anything at all…bc u know holes in flesh & organs with sever blood loss can lead to a bad case of rigor mortis…or as they call it in the biz “death”
There's nothing reasonable about banning passive injury protection.
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They just keep chipping away don't they
We already know why they are doing what they are doing
I would hope it would be DOA, but... why do these liberals want to restrict so much? I thought they were supposed to make everyone equal, not restrict certain groups of people? Shouldn't liberals want everyone to ha e the best protection? These guys are really missing the point of their position. Conservatives want to conserve Americans rights, so... what are liberals trying to take away every right, 1 at a time, trying to dismantle the co stitution every step of the way? You really can't make up that they are doing this right in front of the same people who continue to vote in that direction. Who knows what is next and we all know this will pass one day, and is why they keep pushing these bills. Our nation may be One Nation, Under God, but when that dorsn't matter anymore, are we still one nation? I am done before I open a rabbit hole. Thank you, Magic Prepper.
187 likes. Happens to be the number on my m16 when I was in the army.
I actually have what I invented which is a foton plasma shield which when activated it incircles me😅
Body Armor has an expiration date. What do you do after 5 years??
Keep using it. It doesn't have an expiration date. It has a warranty date of five years. It's a way to limit liability for the manufacturer, nothing more. If you take reasonable care of armor, and especially if you are only wearing it minimal amounts of time, as preppers do, it will serve you as well in 20 years as the day you took it out of the box.
Kevlar has an expiration date, few use it anymore. Modern Ceramic, Polyethylene, and steel armor does not actually go bad in the 5-10 years they list. As long as you don't let polyethylene get too hot for extended periods it will work just fine after decades. The steel is near indestructible. And the Ceramic is shock sensitive so don't throw it around, but it will all still do it's job probably longer than you'll be able to run around in it.
Its for "your safety"
Yall aint already got enough plates for your house hold..?i got 3 adults in my house and i got 4 carriers with plates, 2 are 3+ and 2 are 4. Step ya game up, especially when sales going on for the holidays
This is absolutely ridicoulus. Any common sense having american should ask why this tho? Who got harmed by body armor? This should wake them up.... By alot
You'd hope so
@@MagicPrepper yeah i see common sense is more of a super power anymore. Scary
Will never pass the senate
Been in the market for some armor. Can't decide between soft that can be concealed/grey man or hard plates/chest rig. Any recommendations on brands of armor and soft vs hard, etc?
If you take a round with soft body armor you're still going to have to go to the hospital.
I think it would depend on what you plan to use it for. I've worn both the majority my adult life. I'd say soft armor has the most versatility when the threat is unknown. You also have more mobility and agility. I'd say weigh out what you plan to mostly use it for. Personally, I do have both. I have them for specific roles though.
Both. Get some soft armor that’s concealable and a good set of level 4 plates and carrier for if/when the shit kicks off.
Both, actually. Get both. I prefer the soft kind for daily wear if I have to go to town. I only wear the hard plates in town on Election Day.
Why decide. Get both. For most civilians in most situations, soft concealable IIIA is a good start.
Common sense self defense laws.🤣
FAFO
They’ve been fucking around atf killed somebody recently and we did nothing but complain
Per NIJ standards? Ok if it passes just buy non NIJ rated body armor.
Is @MagicPrepper actually wearing body armor in this video? Is that a plate carrier he is wearing even? Are the mags even loaded? From appearance of his movements he seems like he have very little weight on his chest. I am not trying to call him out but just trying to be able to identify what I am seeing.
Could be a light weight plate or soft armor
Your priorities might be skewed. Does it matter what he's wearing in the video? What if he's wearing a ballistic schlong-thong under that? Does it matter? Listen to the message.
Banning 2A gear is just a minor economic stimulus
teach people how to make it for themselves. then they can ban whatever they want and its still there for the masses.
Who buys less than 3plus
For the algo.
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SOooo . . . that means these "anti - pukes" can no longer run around with their ballistic shields ???
Got mine and my wife's body armor steel with side plates and trauma pads all 3+ rated also level 3 helmets so the can kiss my a$$
How does that go? ''I stand for less armor and more GSW", stupid.
Stop and ask yourself for a moment , why? Defending and protecting yourself is a threat to a tyrannical government.
Say no to all Liberals
Banning a clear defensive use item by our “leaders” is very scary. Hoping RFK Jr gets into power to change things
Ha ha Except…. He is anti gun…. Can’t put your hope in one guy. You gotta take care of yourself and your family.
He is a leftist
Betcha you'd vote for Bernie, too, or that S. Texas Bozo-Beto
Rk is a leftist
@@YamahaWR200 Not more anti gun than trump or Biden.
Hey bud your not a seal or delta stop setting your kit up like your some kind of operator... you need to be able to carry 7-10 magazines on your kit and from what I can see you can only carry 3-6 with zero pouches on your strong side.... because of these youtube fads people think they just need a slick plate carrier with the ability to only carry 3 fucking mags when that shit will 100% get you killed in a real situation due to lack of ammunition to fight and flee or to fight to win and wont be able to suppress the enemy at all with your 90-120 rounds...
STFU, he is doing a video.....are you trying to tell everyone you're Rambo?
Do you have a channel with all your CQB & tactical training videos. Oh....you would show us but then you would have to kill us? Lol.
Your video is misleading and confusing. You told us that they want to ban any body armor exceeding level 3 body armor. And that level 3 body armor will stop all rifle cartridges up to 308 Winchester. So what are they trying to ban? Level 4 body armor or level 3 body armor. It sounds like you were trying to tell us that pistol rated armor was not included in this ban. Well the armor ratings for soft body armor that will stop pistol and shotgun rounds are level 2A and 3A body armor. Oh and by the way, level 3 body amor will stop your common M193 and M855 rounds. The steel body armor plates I own will stop 223/5.56 M193 SS109 and M855. It will also stop 308 Winchester. The only rifle bullets that will reliably go through level 3 body armor is 308/30-06 Armor Piercing projectiles traveling at over 2690 FPS or the big magnums with bullets traveling faster than 3000 FPS. I have tested my steel plates and they work very well at stopping multiple hits from the common battle rifle or assault rifle cartridges.
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We need it! Especially now! 🦺