Compendium Kill Team in 2024 - Tier List and Review

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[@earnestwanderer2471]

For people new to the game, the compendium teams are more straightforward, easier to get your head around. For just plain fun games, I still prefer the compendium teams.

[@nikomartinuzzi2032]

Agreed. Expecially for me, a kitbasher lover, I can make dozen of teams just for fun, following compenium rules for fire groups, I did for Kommandos and Vet Guard but new elite kill teams are full of rules per member, just a page just for a model in some cases. Ok, cool. Thats competitive, I guess. For me its not fun studying a bible of rules just for a team, coz sure ad the sun that will rise tomorrow, I will forget many of them in game.

[@NoRedFear]

Nice video, to the point ! I am surprised you didn't mention your "balancing the compendium" video, it was rather interesting

[@bad3619]

My favourite team to play is Chaos marines with a cultist fire team. It's simple and so fun. Using cultists to score Tac ops and then my marines to do all the heavy hitting can be relatively strong.

[@Gauzy_]

Awsome if its not an issue would you tell me what you have in yiur list please?how many operatives?and how many cultists?what load outs they all have ?

[@bad3619]

@@Gauzy_ Yeah, sure dude.
My favourite list by far is to have:
-Champ w/plasma pistol & power fist
-Heavy gunner w/Heavy bolter
-Warrior or icon bearer w/bolter
For the cultists I use:
-Gunner w/flamer
-Gunner w/heavy stubber
-4 cultists w/ auto guns
-2 cultists w/auto pistol & assault weapon
For the tac ops I run them as infiltrate, as I find it the most fun. Rush your cultists forward to score any VP you can, whether through tac ops or primary objectives.
The reason I use two melee cultists is because they're so good for ensuring I can score the 'implant device' tac op and possibly do a bit of chip damage before they're killed.
Run one to the other end of the board to score the 'seize defences' tac op
And then another fun one to use is 'stalk target', though it can be hard to pull off.
Use your marines to do the heavy damage and don't forget to use their excellent strategic ploys to shoot and fight twice with them. Remember it doesn't affect cultists.
And last thing to remember is to use a CP on 'strike from within' to place a cultist almost anywhere on the board before turn 1 to score one of your opponents objectives or to make a play for a tac op.

[@bad3619]

Oh and for equipment.
-Suspensor system for heavy gunner
-malefic rounds for heavy gunner
-Sacrificial dagger for champ
-grenade on a cultist

[@daemonhunter100]

Glad to see the Scions up there at the highest tier. They are very, VERY heavily underestimated due to being largely overshadowed by the kasrkin's crit gimmick.

[@divancryptek]

T'au Stealth suit was my first kill team (and still one of my favorite, even if they juste can't win now...). I have a dream : this kill team, with 3 APL. And / or 3+ in shooting.

[@panskibinski]

It would be nice if the at least give updates related to dedicated pathfinders team to the compendium (gear, specials etc)

[@templargfx]

With the Ecclesiarchy, have you given much thought to 5 Sisters + 5 Repentia? Ive been playing the Sisters since they came out and Im loving this combo more and more. If you split your team into 5 groups of 2, 1 sister and 1 repentia and treat them like single units they are pretty dangerous. The sister out front on engage with the repentia behind on conceal. Until its time to get into melee, its like having a 3+ armor save and a bunch of extra wounds for the repentia, and when you do reach melee you charge with the sister (but dont fight) and then charge the repentia in, giving them a 3+ hit. you have to play a bit of a leapfrog game to keep the repentia safe, but once you get used to it, its pretty easy. Its very rare to have 12" of open space on a board so thanks to the sister you can always move your repentia from cover position to cover position while concealed preventing them from being targeted directly

[@panskibinski]

2024 Still playing compendium Stealth suits + Breaches :D

[@jordanbusch6588]

I run chaos daemons fairly regularly and their kit can still do work, but i'd love even a white dwarf just to add a lil spice

[@vinterbjork4128]

#3aplStealthSuitsWhen

[@NicholasDixon502]

How are we feeling about heavy intercessors? 😬

[@mattbrown7759]

E tier

[@edwardclay7551]

Glad to know my 6 Tyranid Warriors/10 Genestealers and 6 Stealth Suits are still viable in the new edition of Kill Team.
I note that necrons have a specialist team in Heirotek Circle. How does it compare to their basic teams?
Or Wyrmblade to the basic Genestealer Cultists?
I know Legionnaire teams are solid and comparable to the Intercessor specialist team.
Ty for this video glass.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Well, I'm not sure if I'd say the 6 stealth suits are super viable... but they're fun!
Hierotek Circle are a really good team and the Chronomancer is an astounding model that will win you the game every time, or lose you the game if the enemy snipes him out. It's a very different team to the Compendium Necrons, so don't expect the same play experience, but it's definitively a stronger team.
Oh, just be absolutely sure you understand how Reanimation Protocols actually works, because it's not clear. At all. In fact, I think it is tied for the worst written rule in the game. For just raw clarity, it's impossible to read right the first time.

[@panskibinski]

@GlassHalfDead If we plan to play mini friendly tournament "compendium only" should we apply balance data slates or only use book?
E.g. that additional chaos/loyalist space marine unit change a lot balance wise or limit to grenades
So rephrase question if we want to play compendium only will it be more balanced without the later meta updates?

[@alexd7713]

I really hope there is more than 7 months left in this edition, probably the best and most balanced GW system in 20 years.

[@levonrodwell]

I'm with you on that hope. I am enjoying this game and my group is a healthy mix of compendium and bespoke teams. The rules are easy to get into and the depth of tactics and choices during the game are incredible.

[@winkcraft2552]

Yea they haven't even released alternate bespoke options for every faction. There's no need for a new edition yet.

[@Blore07]

But what is the stud rating of these teams?

[@t_hetty1758]

Cool to know commorites r pretty good. Been kitbashing an archon team but have enough units to turn commorite. Might have to give it a try.

[@Kodalith]

Forgive the ignorance here. Which team is Scions again?

[@opfragile]

That'd be the Imperial Guard kill team, they can take two fireteams of Guardsmen, or one fireteam of Guardsmen and one of Tempestus Scions, or two fireteams of Scions. You can find them in the Compendium, or online.

[@mayofrench5170]

Thanks for this video. Compendium may be useful as a way to get new players in.

[@daveypsychotronic132]

Thank you, useful video. I'm just getting into Kill Team (as requested by a feeing of mine as he wants someone to play with!) and have just bought and assembled the Salvation teams. My question is: Is the 2023 annual any use to me in 2024 at this beginner stage?

[@GlassHalfDead]

I am very much of the opinion that you should just use digital rules. Now, getting 6 months of use out of a book is decent enough imo, but there's really very little need for it. Most factions have had an update from a balance dataslate as well. Personally I idea wahapedia or ktdash. My physical books are just taking up space I literally don't use them. But I do accept that most people learn better from physical media, so it's up to you. If you just want the datacards then of course use philtean

[@tylerhuckaba3031]

Hate that my favorite faction, the Tau, are just at the very bottom here. You’d think that they at least would have good abilities to shoot considering, ya know, they’re the shooting faction

[@GuntherCloneC]

So for my baby Brood Coven, you recommend just running 10 hybrid metamorphs?

[@MountaineerRN304]

I've enjoyed your opinions and advice on the current Kill Team. Thanks!

[@andyman885]

Hold on a minute, Glass you are giving me a crisis. What do you mean only 7 months left in this edition?? I sure hope not after the amount of money and time I’ve invested! Will my books and teams be phased out?? Already happened once with the 2019 edition

[@8rianGriffin]

Im pretty sure he is talking about Season, not edition. There are no plans, not even rumors, right now.

[@B3457LY]

It's speculation at this point but GW is pretty consistently on a 3 year cycle for all their major game updates (see 40k, AOS, even KT itself - it was released in 2018 and the new, current version in 2021)
Regardless of when the new version comes out, we can just hope that most/all of the teams from this edition are still usable (or just play the older version 🤷‍♂️)

[@DeMause]

Yeah but how many points is a Vespid?

[@gregoryseraphin1426]

Curious, why deathwatch was so far down in the C tier When they have four plasma, equivalence, and all have power swords, when there was a team in the justification, was only that they have power source

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Circle Hello! This is a handy resource for new players.

[@ratman505]

5:32 - I'm all for straight and raw, but what's the point?

[@quentinmims9400]

Warp coven was deleted???

[@xibbas7055]

Is it confrimed harelquin/white dwarf KTs are getting removed? Starting to get into killteam and have harlequins already.

[@GlassHalfDead]

I have not heard this anywhere. White dwarf teams are as valid as every other specialist team.
If you mean the compendium Harlequins then they are not tournament legal, you need to use their white dwarf team instead

[@xibbas7055]

@@GlassHalfDead ah ok I just saw they were in deleted tier and maybe I missed it but didn't hear why you put them there.

[@GlassHalfDead]

@@xibbas7055 7:05

[@dwarrenmsp]

The current Eldar bespoke teams don't quite do it for me as I love just regular Guardians. It could really be unique to have a bespoke team of Craftworld Eldar with a gun platform, but maybe I should just buy a box of guardians and give the compendium a try. Something I don't understand is, can I buy a box of Guardians and make half Guardian Defenders and the other half Storm Guardians and just play it like that? One fireteam Defenders and the other Storms?

[@losethegame101]

Yes. You get two fire team choices for Craftworld, and Storm Guardians and Guardian Defenders are both Fire Team options available to you.

[@dwarrenmsp]

@@losethegame101 I think that's what I misunderstood. I thought the fireteams had to be the same type. That's good to know! So I could do a mix of Guardian Defenders with a heavy weapons platform and then also some Storm Guardians? That could be something fun for me. I don't currently play any GW games, but I think I might start getting into Kill Team.

[@majortom7186]

4:04 Not shocked that Reddit simply doesn’t get it. It was always the home of bad takes by people who don’t understand games.

[@0AbsolutZero0]

If you play Tyranids, Grey Knights, Death Guard, or Chaos Demons all you have is the Compendium

[@garrapato]

Mechanicus BSO. The music, the darkness, the simplicity, the pseudo-subbed speech: best game on joints.

[@cgordon13]

100% no S-tier! What even is that?!

[@mattvucu6706]

If next edition is just a compendium redo, I will be very happy... also give us Grey Knights FFS

[@BlommaBaumbart]

"One box and you're playing" doesn't hold true as much with every astartes team needing 6 models and Veterans shining at 14 models with 10 in the box. Otherwise this was a nicely positive look back at the compendium. "Compendium" should probably be touted as its own intermediate game mode between Kill Team and Boarding Patrol.

[@GlassHalfDead]

Astartes come in boxes of 10, so you're good to go. Veterans are a specialist team and have rules very specifically for playing them as a 10 model team :)
And if you want to get picky, Dire Avengers, Rangers, Scions etc come in boxes of 5 so aren't one box teams. Whatevs, it's close enough.

[@jmccord8133]

I know it’s not as competitive, but I enjoy running Vet Guard with the combat support option of the guided missile and strafing run with ver the extra 4 infantryman. Helped me a lot when learning the game, still fun now.

[@philknecht3598]

Necrons deleting Custodes? Not on my watch.

[@alexander_trowbridge]

My brother. Chaos daemons is top teir