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My issue with them is the lack of general use grenade.... i dont think theres any reason they shouldnt have krak and frag grenades. Additionally they have 0 way of accessing AP...maybe thatll change in the bespoke team. Given all that. I 100% agree that this is a fantastic starter army because theyre simple and flexible
I think it's a design decision as TSons/Warp coven have a similar lack of grenades. Which is a great idea, swap grenades for psychic, makes sense, but the problem is that I think Grenades have turned out to be more influential in a game than the designer's expected.
Older video, but I was just popping around and found it. I am assembling a squad of interceptors, and this video kept me happy. I would love to see a bespoke team for the Sons of Titan. Crowes Creed (a purifier team) or a real mixed bag team like the Deathwatch, which would be absolutely cool with the GK. I wouldn't mind new models, but if that doesn't happen, a refresh on the datasheet to restore the elite status would be nice. The lack of punch on the gunners is completely spot on, it's just better to keep your sword and use the bolter to maximum potential, at which no one can match these guys. 🎲⚔️
I'm losing hope we'll ever get one! It's taking a long ol time, that's for sure. I've been thinking of ways to get GK into a proper team that I can actually play, and so I've gone on this long arc. So the models are teeny tiny so they should be converted. Can do primaris assault intercessors, but I'm a G, so I'd do Custodes kitbashed with GK terminators. Make them the heft they should be! Then take those converted models and play them with Warpcoven rules, because that's really the only psychic specialist team. But that's a conversion and a proxy, going to be a bit tough to convince people to play that :P (although, can't lie, I just bought a bunch of blood angels death company to proxy as Void Dancers, so clearly I don't care TOO much)
Thanks! I realise that this year my quality has been very up and down. I just had this TV against a cool wall while I was away so banged this out for fun :)
I really appreciate this video!! I find the grey knights really fun as my first kill team, really my first Warhammer. It’s unbelievably important that all my guys act very similar when I struggle with the rules. The only down side is the models aren’t very cool, and not different from each other when they all have a bolted and falchion. I had so much fun with my first game! Your content is important to beginners that are curious about this hobby/game.
The problem with the 3+ teams is that GK don't have access to AP weapons. This means that you need 2 of them to focus on a single target to kill it or wound it. This is probably the biggest limit.
Not sure about those falchions. Here's an argument: when fighting, you want to delete the enemy unit as soon as possible to avoid taking damage, ideally on the first hit. That means you should attack pre-damaged units, yes, but also that you want your attack to deal as much damage as possible on the first hit. So, priority should be given to damage (aka power weapon+hammerhand) rather than amount of successess scored (where falchions/relentless shines). For shooting, yeah, relentless all the way of course.
That's a fair point! I think this is a video in itself. You're right that after X hits, the remaining hits don't matter, so we shouldn't focus on getting 5 hits because you're never going to use 5 hits. The reason falchions are useful is the consistency. It's not so much that they're ensuring 5 hits, it's that they're ensuring you don't spike the other way and only get 1 hit. They let you do what you expect them to do without worrying about dice. I'd have to go look at where things lie in a statistically average way to see the opponents that falchions are TECHNICALLY worse against.
Thanks for making this video! I was looking to make my very first kill team and my first ever war hammer minis. I have copied this set up but I built one guy with the double handed sword because it looked cool ha ha. I had loads of fun building the team and was impressed with just how much you can customise the stance of the mini. They are built just need to work out how to paint them now. Thanks again this was really helpful and I’m looking forward to getting them on the table.
Last Sunday I had 2nd place at a local tournament of kt18, after years of playing and seeing you playing GK on your early videos and I was thinking of changing faction before start learning kt21 but after this video I’m sticking to the knights of titan!
I think that GK are a solid starter faction, right up there with marines. They won't take you uo top tables against skilled opponents, but they'll take you far and teach you the game! Also a great faction to have lying around to give to a friend who is new to the game and wants a learner game.
I nearly gave you a dislike there. The only problem with the GK models is they are scaled to the old standard. Everything else is as good as Astartes get.
Really enjoyed this Andy. As someone who doesn't do competitive play ( just me and my son at home) it was imo a better faction dive than most of the others I've seen as they assume you have absorbed the rules of your faction of choice in a Borg type way. I've said this before but there needs to be more vids on how a faction works on the board may be showing turn 1,2,3,4 tactics. Movement is king everyone shouts along with don't get flanked. Then show us filthy casuals how to do it. If I'm playing Necrons against Harlequins how do the clowns do the flanking? How do the metal skeli Bois stop it? ( I mean they won't but that's a stoopid match up any way).
Thanks John! I think that there is room for faction focii aimed at all diffferent levels. I know exactly what you mean with the real life examples. I've considered doing a few videos like that, essentially a chess puzzle of what's the best move. I could do those and easily make it a series. I think that they wouldn't have any REAL value, but they might have a perceived value and be fun, so when I'm back home I will most likely play around with presenting a video like that :)
@@GlassHalfDead whilst I enjoy the others like Beeranid and co I just feel that it's 2 people or a group just essentially going " so you play Harlequins and they have all these movement shenanigans that can get you across the board and into the opposite drop zone in turn one don't they" then everyone laughs and go ohhhh yeh they do. Then don't actually tell you how to do it. There's probably a ton of stuff that casual players like me miss with regards to chaining strats and stuff.
@@johnmilik9909 Makes sense, sure. I think that's part of the format. He wants to keep things super concise and 11 minutes max, which means you have to gloss over the basics. I intend to do more of these faction focuses once I'm back home and can replace the TV with a greenscreen so it's much more readable and I'll have my mic back for good audio.
@@GlassHalfDead good stuff. Btw have you seen the new strategic advantage vid on how to not get shot? I liked it but was thinking at the time that stuff like this is why more casual players don't transition to comp play.
@@johnmilik9909 I've got it on the list to watch as soon as I'm back home! Why is what they say a turn off for comp play? Feels like too much just to play a game, would be my guess?
My plan for kt rn is to paint 5 Purifiers and then use the new Castellan Crowe model and my 6th guy. I know he uses a bigger base but the piece that he stands on that you glue to the base is basically the same size as the strike squads 32mm base. So I'm just gonna use that as the base 🤷🏽♂️
Thats exactly what I'm doing minus the Crowe part! I have a ton of unique helmets from the Venerable Dreadnought kit that I'm going to use to make them stand out as an elite purifier/kill team squad
Not possible at the moment, but yes normally in this situation I would be using my wireless mic. don't have it with me. Just you wait for my "rivenstone interview" video. Atrocious audio! But it's all I can do for now.
@@GundamReviver I'm sure there is but not really. I find that if I edit my background sound enough to the point of it making the audio quality better then it clips the end off all of my words which is infinitely more distracting 🤷♂️
Love the grey knights. Fun easy rules, though i wonder what else they could add to a strike squad for the bespoke rules. Maybe mix and matching between purifiers, regular knights, interceptors, and purgators? Would make sense since the games coming out next month. Great printable grey knights out there too for anyone looking for more truescale options.
You know, I haven't looked at Etsy for truescale GK yet... that may well be better than converting my own which I really don't feel like doing right now... Good shout!
Hey im a new grey knights player and I just bought my first strike squad. And I was wondering if you could please send me a clear picture of the stats and stuff I would need for kill team.
@@Remixersoloman why do 3dmg to enemy CSM each time for total 12dmg over 4 APL, when can blast him for total 8dmg+ in 1 APL? Assuming he perfect guards every time. He fails to get 3 saves? BOOM dead CSM in 1 APL. Mathhammer aside, it is also about Action Economy. That, plus Dash > Astral Aim > Fire. Cant do this with stormbolter and expect to down a CSM in 1 activation.
Anything is possible and frankly I'd love it! But there haven't been any leaks of either of those getting new kits... But I legit have no idea what this Friday will be for any of the games!
Hi Glass, great video, do you have any tips on how to develop the Grey Knights in narrative play? What spec ops should one start with, what skills to take when leveling the different models, rare equipment to pick and that sort of thing, there is not much content to find on the topic.
No. None at all. But in my next video in going to give them a narrative section at the end because you're right, some people really want that, good shout!
It's just in with all the other FAQ's. I think you asked and had this answered in the discord as well though, but if that was someone else, let me know and I'll track it down.
Come on glass… this was some good advice. But I feel there is such inconsistent and random presentation quality and prep. Really sometimes like you don’t care to organize yourself for those who watch.
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My issue with them is the lack of general use grenade.... i dont think theres any reason they shouldnt have krak and frag grenades. Additionally they have 0 way of accessing AP...maybe thatll change in the bespoke team. Given all that. I 100% agree that this is a fantastic starter army because theyre simple and flexible
I think it's a design decision as TSons/Warp coven have a similar lack of grenades. Which is a great idea, swap grenades for psychic, makes sense, but the problem is that I think Grenades have turned out to be more influential in a game than the designer's expected.
Older video, but I was just popping around and found it. I am assembling a squad of interceptors, and this video kept me happy. I would love to see a bespoke team for the Sons of Titan. Crowes Creed (a purifier team) or a real mixed bag team like the Deathwatch, which would be absolutely cool with the GK. I wouldn't mind new models, but if that doesn't happen, a refresh on the datasheet to restore the elite status would be nice. The lack of punch on the gunners is completely spot on, it's just better to keep your sword and use the bolter to maximum potential, at which no one can match these guys. 🎲⚔️
I'm losing hope we'll ever get one! It's taking a long ol time, that's for sure. I've been thinking of ways to get GK into a proper team that I can actually play, and so I've gone on this long arc. So the models are teeny tiny so they should be converted. Can do primaris assault intercessors, but I'm a G, so I'd do Custodes kitbashed with GK terminators. Make them the heft they should be! Then take those converted models and play them with Warpcoven rules, because that's really the only psychic specialist team. But that's a conversion and a proxy, going to be a bit tough to convince people to play that :P
(although, can't lie, I just bought a bunch of blood angels death company to proxy as Void Dancers, so clearly I don't care TOO much)
The faction focus was great
Cant wait to see you do more of these 😂
I was originally actually going to do this with Hunter Clade but changed at the last second!
@@GlassHalfDead As a secret Clade fanbot, I'm looking forward to it.
I actually really liked the format of you talking in front of the TV like this, get mic'd up so the audio's good and jobs a good'un
The next time I go for a trip I'll be sure to bring my mics, yeah. Mistake!
Btw I have been following you from the start and your evolution is incredible keep it coming! Cheers from Uruguay
Thanks! I realise that this year my quality has been very up and down. I just had this TV against a cool wall while I was away so banged this out for fun :)
I really appreciate this video!! I find the grey knights really fun as my first kill team, really my first Warhammer. It’s unbelievably important that all my guys act very similar when I struggle with the rules. The only down side is the models aren’t very cool, and not different from each other when they all have a bolted and falchion. I had so much fun with my first game! Your content is important to beginners that are curious about this hobby/game.
The problem with the 3+ teams is that GK don't have access to AP weapons. This means that you need 2 of them to focus on a single target to kill it or wound it. This is probably the biggest limit.
Not sure about those falchions. Here's an argument: when fighting, you want to delete the enemy unit as soon as possible to avoid taking damage, ideally on the first hit. That means you should attack pre-damaged units, yes, but also that you want your attack to deal as much damage as possible on the first hit. So, priority should be given to damage (aka power weapon+hammerhand) rather than amount of successess scored (where falchions/relentless shines). For shooting, yeah, relentless all the way of course.
That's a fair point! I think this is a video in itself. You're right that after X hits, the remaining hits don't matter, so we shouldn't focus on getting 5 hits because you're never going to use 5 hits. The reason falchions are useful is the consistency. It's not so much that they're ensuring 5 hits, it's that they're ensuring you don't spike the other way and only get 1 hit. They let you do what you expect them to do without worrying about dice.
I'd have to go look at where things lie in a statistically average way to see the opponents that falchions are TECHNICALLY worse against.
Thanks for making this video! I was looking to make my very first kill team and my first ever war hammer minis. I have copied this set up but I built one guy with the double handed sword because it looked cool ha ha. I had loads of fun building the team and was impressed with just how much you can customise the stance of the mini. They are built just need to work out how to paint them now. Thanks again this was really helpful and I’m looking forward to getting them on the table.
Last Sunday I had 2nd place at a local tournament of kt18, after years of playing and seeing you playing GK on your early videos and I was thinking of changing faction before start learning kt21 but after this video I’m sticking to the knights of titan!
I think that GK are a solid starter faction, right up there with marines. They won't take you uo top tables against skilled opponents, but they'll take you far and teach you the game! Also a great faction to have lying around to give to a friend who is new to the game and wants a learner game.
I nearly gave you a dislike there. The only problem with the GK models is they are scaled to the old standard. Everything else is as good as Astartes get.
I'm on your side there, I do like the models, I just love the primaris scale!
Ha, what a coincidence. Was about to kitbash some in the near future.
They're a great conversion project :)
Really enjoyed this Andy. As someone who doesn't do competitive play ( just me and my son at home) it was imo a better faction dive than most of the others I've seen as they assume you have absorbed the rules of your faction of choice in a Borg type way. I've said this before but there needs to be more vids on how a faction works on the board may be showing turn 1,2,3,4 tactics. Movement is king everyone shouts along with don't get flanked. Then show us filthy casuals how to do it. If I'm playing Necrons against Harlequins how do the clowns do the flanking? How do the metal skeli Bois stop it? ( I mean they won't but that's a stoopid match up any way).
Thanks John! I think that there is room for faction focii aimed at all diffferent levels.
I know exactly what you mean with the real life examples. I've considered doing a few videos like that, essentially a chess puzzle of what's the best move. I could do those and easily make it a series. I think that they wouldn't have any REAL value, but they might have a perceived value and be fun, so when I'm back home I will most likely play around with presenting a video like that :)
@@GlassHalfDead whilst I enjoy the others like Beeranid and co I just feel that it's 2 people or a group just essentially going " so you play Harlequins and they have all these movement shenanigans that can get you across the board and into the opposite drop zone in turn one don't they" then everyone laughs and go ohhhh yeh they do. Then don't actually tell you how to do it. There's probably a ton of stuff that casual players like me miss with regards to chaining strats and stuff.
@@johnmilik9909 Makes sense, sure. I think that's part of the format. He wants to keep things super concise and 11 minutes max, which means you have to gloss over the basics. I intend to do more of these faction focuses once I'm back home and can replace the TV with a greenscreen so it's much more readable and I'll have my mic back for good audio.
@@GlassHalfDead good stuff. Btw have you seen the new strategic advantage vid on how to not get shot? I liked it but was thinking at the time that stuff like this is why more casual players don't transition to comp play.
@@johnmilik9909 I've got it on the list to watch as soon as I'm back home! Why is what they say a turn off for comp play? Feels like too much just to play a game, would be my guess?
The gunner bit is so funny that I sometimes come back to this vid just for that bit. :D
Helpful video for this new KT Grey Knights player. Thanks!
My plan for kt rn is to paint 5 Purifiers and then use the new Castellan Crowe model and my 6th guy. I know he uses a bigger base but the piece that he stands on that you glue to the base is basically the same size as the strike squads 32mm base. So I'm just gonna use that as the base 🤷🏽♂️
Thats exactly what I'm doing minus the Crowe part! I have a ton of unique helmets from the Venerable Dreadnought kit that I'm going to use to make them stand out as an elite purifier/kill team squad
Glass my man, this was an interesting listen..but man you sounded like you were underwater. might i suggest an improvement to the audio situation?
Not possible at the moment, but yes normally in this situation I would be using my wireless mic. don't have it with me.
Just you wait for my "rivenstone interview" video. Atrocious audio! But it's all I can do for now.
@@GlassHalfDead eh fair. No digital way to kill the echo?
@@GundamReviver I'm sure there is but not really. I find that if I edit my background sound enough to the point of it making the audio quality better then it clips the end off all of my words which is infinitely more distracting 🤷♂️
This video was EXACTLY what I was looking for.
Love the grey knights. Fun easy rules, though i wonder what else they could add to a strike squad for the bespoke rules. Maybe mix and matching between purifiers, regular knights, interceptors, and purgators? Would make sense since the games coming out next month.
Great printable grey knights out there too for anyone looking for more truescale options.
You know, I haven't looked at Etsy for truescale GK yet... that may well be better than converting my own which I really don't feel like doing right now... Good shout!
Circle Hello! Good overview for the Grey Knights with solid advice.
Thanks!
Been debating building a GK vs Black Templars for 40k but I think I am going to do GK for KT and BT for 40k!
Great choice! I've done off colour BT for 40k because I just love the chained weapons look :P
Glass: "I dont play or ever win...heres my guide!"🤣
If the split of players vs hobbyists is the same as 40k then I'm still one of the most active players in the world 😅(which is a damning statement)
Hammer on a Justicar is pretty okay.
Not a bad shout, can't argue with that. The Relentless is wasted on a 2+ to hit.
Love faction focuses, especially for the teams I play, anyways algorithm boost
Thanks for the watch! Hopefully the presentation outweighed the audio issues!
My question is: why does the warding stave not... ward?
Well, if you want to take your GK over to AOS then you can say they get a Ward Save there?
Hey im a new grey knights player and I just bought my first strike squad. And I was wondering if you could please send me a clear picture of the stats and stuff I would need for kill team.
Hi bud. I can't do that for you but you can check out a site could wahapedia or an app called battlescribe. Good luck!
Grey Knight Psycannon Gunner is actually good, esp against 3+ save people (or situations where you'd need an AP weapon)
Except it isn’t as good as a storm bolted
Heavy :(
Storm bolter will do more damage over the course of a game with its rerolls probably, too.
I'm happy that you're here fighting the good fight for the heavy gunner!
@@Remixersoloman why do 3dmg to enemy CSM each time for total 12dmg over 4 APL, when can blast him for total 8dmg+ in 1 APL?
Assuming he perfect guards every time. He fails to get 3 saves? BOOM dead CSM in 1 APL.
Mathhammer aside, it is also about Action Economy. That, plus Dash > Astral Aim > Fire. Cant do this with stormbolter and expect to down a CSM in 1 activation.
You think the big kill team news coming out Friday, may be demons vs grey knights?
Anything is possible and frankly I'd love it! But there haven't been any leaks of either of those getting new kits... But I legit have no idea what this Friday will be for any of the games!
Interesting, informative.
Thanks!
can i play GKs kill team with 40mm base models?
Hi Glass, great video, do you have any tips on how to develop the Grey Knights in narrative play? What spec ops should one start with, what skills to take when leveling the different models, rare equipment to pick and that sort of thing, there is not much content to find on the topic.
No. None at all. But in my next video in going to give them a narrative section at the end because you're right, some people really want that, good shout!
Is this still viable/relavent to the current game ?
Yup, Compendium hasn't changed since this.
Where can I find this FAQ that says they can’t fight after “in only death”?
It's just in with all the other FAQ's. I think you asked and had this answered in the discord as well though, but if that was someone else, let me know and I'll track it down.
@@GlassHalfDead GHD discord to the rescue again. Cheers
'Kropla Beskidu' water? Did You record this in Poland or what :) ?
Yup! I go to Gdansk every now and again!
Cool video. But they will be changed enough in a few months that will make this build unusable. Which is a shame.
Which means I can do this again but for the real team :D
Algorithm boost
The best kind of boost!
This T.V. format is really bad, you should go back to a powerpoint on screen. Same about the audio, what's happened up to your setup?
I was on holiday!
Come on glass… this was some good advice. But I feel there is such inconsistent and random presentation quality and prep. Really sometimes like you don’t care to organize yourself for those who watch.
You mean like I'm someone who's making videos for fun?