Life time Celtics fan and I will agree Kareem is the greatest of all time. He is a credit to the game and more importantly a credit to the human race. Was thrilled to see him awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
@GREG Hubbard then let him make a comeback and see what he does..there should no ifs and buts he retired because that was his own choice nobody prevented him to play so why should you use that as a scapegoat..i don't even heard him personally making that as an excuse ...it's you people who are bringing up that matter to justify your idolization of him
Jabbar is in the conversation as greatest HS player ever, greatest college player ever, and greatest NBA player ever. No one else is in all 3 category. Multiple CHAMPIONSHIP domination at all stages. No one else can say that but Jabbar!
As a Celtic fan I've never forgotten that he was the finals MVP in 85 at 38 years old. His endurance was incredible. He still finished top 5 MVP in 1986 at 39 during the peak of the BIrd/Magic era.
I believe he was 37 then and although I am a Korean fan, one of the five who finished above was his own teammate, Magic Johnson!! Not taking anything away, but having the best point guard in NBA history in his prime on your team at that time surely helps! Not to mention, having one of the best teams in NBA history!
@@bigdan9850 Magic arrived in 1980 when Kareem was already declining, so he wasn't at his prime nor was Magic near his peak yet. They both peaked very many years apart with Kareem's being in the late 1970s and Magic around 1987 to 1990. What's interesting with these GOAT discussions is the bonus points someone receives "because he didn't play with a bunch of all stars" which is often the Jordan argument. Well, basketball is a TEAM sport, and your ability to play with other stars should go in your favor as opposed to against you.
@@eddieG667 Neither Jordon nor Kobe won a title without Phil Jackson at the helm. Bill Russell played for two great coaches... Red Auerbach and Bill Russell. That factor cannot be underestimated.
A young man with a good non bias opinion, about old school basketball. Very refreshing to hear. Good job. From, the days of letting them play physical ball.
Hands down the greatest. Record 6 time league MVP. Record 19 time allstar. Champion in high school, college, and the n.b.a. They banned dunking when he was in college. He resorted to the unstoppable " sky hook ". Champion with 2 separate NBA teams. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar !!! He earned all of his points. Unlike MJ who was placed on the free throw line due to other players breathing too hard in his direction e.g. check out the footage. Kareem had to resort to wearing protective eye gear due to opponents pounding the he'll out if him. Kareem was the greatest basketball player ever. He dedicated himself to his craft and continued making an impact at age 40 and 20 yrs. in the league. Extraordinary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You took the words right out of my mouth, if you played against MJ they called a foul on you while still in the locker room.... Kareem without question is the GOAT!!!
Jabbar was 6-4 in NBA Finals !!! If he was so "all world" as you claim, how come he was not 10-0 or undefeated like MJ (6-0)? MJ was better offensively. Had a complete arsenal of shots vs a "sky hook". MJ was better defensively. MJ was better in the clutch when it mattered most (6 for 6 in Finals and 6 or 6 as MVP). All while being 6'6" and did not have the luxury of playing along side the greatest PG in history (Magic). Incidentially, Magic carried the Lakers to the 1980 title with a 42/15/7 game while Jabbar SAT OUT.
He also played against a weak era of Basketball Players compared to what Shaq had to go up against.. Wilt played against 3 Great Centers throughout his career.. Look at all the good Centers Shaq went up against.. And Kareem was to skinny to Stop Shaq as well.. Nobody was stopping Shaq in his Prime the 3 peat years 2000-2003 especially
6 MVPs, 6 Championships, the greatest offensive weapon; the skyhook, and he did it against the likes of Wilt, Walton, Cowens, Olajuwon, and Moses Malone
Shut down no. Both guys gave each other trouble. Kareem was able to lead the Bucks to the 1971 title and Kareem and the Bucks ended the Lakers' 33-game winning streak in '72. Kareem wrecked Olajuwon in their initial meetings in Olajuwon's rookie year. It took Ralph Sampson's (the other Twin Tower) help against an old Kareem in '86 to beat the Lakers in the playoffs. And finally, Kareem was the Lakers' main offensive weapon/leading scorer until the '87 season (over half-way through Magic's career) when Riley asked Magic to score more to relieve their aging captain. Magic drove the team, but Kareem was their backbone/core. Go back and study young one.
3:03 My favorite note about college Kareem. Trying to imagine a league/governing body stepping-in to hamstring a player because they are THAT much better than their competition is absolutely insane to me. Also, 88-2? 3 championships in 3 tries? Absolutely staggering.
The NCAA actually did Jabbar a favor when it banned the dunk after his sophomore season at UCLA because it forced him to develop a weapon that was utterly unguardable: the sky hook.
Alcindor was NCAA Player-of-the-Year three times! He lead UCLA to the championship all three years. Remember, freshmen were ineligible back then or else he may have gotten four titles.
By the way the year Kareem was a freshman, his freshman team beat the varsity team by nearly 20 points. He was the best player I ever seen play at all levels.
People forget that.... He scored 57 points as a freshman against the reigning national champion that year: UCLA!! A scrimmage.. Varsity against the freshman team...
Thank you for this video! It goes a very long way in explaining exactly why Kareem is the GOAT! More players, coaches, GMs and people in general should watch this video, especially those that incorrectly have the notion that the likes of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron, etc belong in this category!!! They have no idea what greatness is unless they watch your video.
I remember watching what I believe Abdul-Jabbar's greatest victory when the Lakers beat the Celtics in Boston Garden. The Sky Hook from the right baseline over Robert Parish put the Lakers up for good. The most memorable shot I have seen Kareem make.
Love this video, I have for years felt that Kareem is one of the greatest if not the greatest of all time. But my favorite Kareem moment and there are many but this one stands out above the rest; Beating the Celtics in the Garden in Game 6 of the 1985 NBA Finals, up to that point the Lakers had never beaten the Celtics in the Finals and had lost the previous season in 84 in 7 games, so this one was huge, and Kareem himself said when asked what was the best moment of his career he said: "Without a doubt beating the Celtics in the Garden in the 85 finals." Nuff said, Great Video.
Remember four straight sky hooks in the fourth quarter of Game 5 of the '85 finals, the last three of which came with the pressure of knowing that a miss would cost the Lakers the game, the title and their legacy? After the third one, you knew he would hit it until the Celtics would miss a shot and lose the game - and he did. That was greatness.
+Mick A, I know your comment is foolish. So don't make it. Instead, find me another player who scored 38k points and you will earn your right to speak against Kareem's achievements. Also he lasted 20 years while playing at a high level and reaching 38k points practically without the help of a 3 point line. No one has done that ever. Kobe was breaking down in his last four seasons and was practically harmful to the team. Jordan was able to play at a high level past 40 simply because he had taken time off from the game. Otherwise he would have been like Kobe at the end. Wilt played 14 years so we would not know how good or bad he would have been had he played. Parish was warming the bench while he was with the Bulls in 1997. The only one who was somewhat effective and Malone did not have any championship rings, as compared to Kareem's 6. Last, my comment about Kareem being the best player came not from me but Magic Johnson and Michael Cooper. Mick A, I don't know how old or young you are, but you need to watch some old tapes with Kareem in a Milwaukee jersey, then you will know how foolish your reply to my comment is.
Luis Carrion how would he win a championship with himself when it was his 2nd season you expect him to carry the team when it was his 2nd season lebron had to have a super team to win it all so stop talking 8 year old
Uh Wilt blocked the skyhook a few times. Twice shown on youtube ,As a matter of fact Wilt was the only player that Kareem had to adjust his skyhook. Kareem once shot the skyhook so high against Wilt that it ended up being a bank shot. A skyhook bank shot I'm like are you kidding me? Also remember Wilt was at the end of his career with knee issues when he contested Karrem. Imagine if Wilt was in his prime.
You presented the best mix of Kareem's career i have seen thus far and you did a hellavu job showing the full scope of his career. Archival Kareem footage is very surreal because it shows what a singular legend he is.
The reason Jabbar is not marketed as the GOAT is because of his religious conversion and his radical politics during the 60's. He is in the same category as Ali except that he was humble and did not boast. If any of had a clue about how the establishment views people like Jabbar then you would understand. Jordan did nothing politically challenging and was the beneficiary of those greats who had put themselves on the line as true political activists beyond the game itself. Thanks for making this video.
Sooo, if it was because of his religious beliefs that kept him from being the GOAT. Then why if he was in the same category as Ali is that many consider Ali the Greatest? Because he was boastful and bragging. The establishment view of Jabbar? Ali was so hated that he lost his license, ltemporarily locked up and had to find other means to survive. I agree with a at a minimum with Jordan.
the only reason that Jordan is marketed as the GOAT is because he was the best ever...no need to find a fancy religious reason. Jordan's skills were far superior and far more extensive than Kareem's. Jordan's offensive game was far more diverse than Kareem's. nothing to to do with religion
its not just me...its pretty much 95% of pundits and most contemporaries who say Jordan is not only the G.O.A.T. but hes also the undisputed G.O.A.T. Kareem was a very tall man, who could score using only 1 move. What if somebody figured him out? he wouldnt be as effective. Whereas Jordan had a plethora of moves that you couldnt stop. Jordan's offense was far more diversified than anyone who ever played the game.
You know this jordan myth thing is so old, this guy has been the greatest NBA player for a long time, he has went against the best centers and fowards of ALL time yes when your a center you play against 3 guys not one like a cherry picking guard does . I remember late in his career he was in a game against the Houston Rockets and they had the famous twin towers Ralph Sampson and Hakeem Olajuwan and he scorched them for over thirty points two 7 footers and he was almost 40 yrs old then
@@johntompkins5379 The championship teams and the players Jabbar beat ALL are HALL OF FAMER'S wes unseld, earl pearl monroe, maurice cheeks, DrJ , bobby jones, larry bird, dennis johnson, kevin Mchale, robert parish, bill walton, adrian dantley, joe dumars, dennis rodman, isaiah thomas, and coaches billy cunningham, chuck daly, kc jones , Jordans level of competition was a joke low quality ball players, no teams that won championships and thats legend NBA listing boy , got that pinhead...lol
I was at that game at the Houston Summit around 1986. Akeem was gunning for Kareem but if I remember correctly, Kareem dropped 42 points and he was around 38 years old at the time.
@@johntompkins5379 I love how Jordan homers qualify an achievement like that. 6-4 means Kareem made it to the finals four more times than Jordan, and that's supposed to be a bad thing somehow? like losing the finals is worse than not making them at all? gotta love the logic there. What about the 1994-1995 season? I mean, I get that Jordan only came back halfway through the season but how was it that the transcendent MJ couldn't lead his team passed Shaq and the Magic in the playoffs?
Blackhawk Gamer1228 Yep but that's just a testimony to Wilt's greatness. No way for example that Shaq or Hakeem would block it. Like you said even Wilt couldn't manage more then two.
Many people blocked the skyhook, Ralph Sampson, Manute Bol, Hakeem Olajuwon, Wilt, that shows their greatness, but only very few times. Also, Kareem blocked Wilt about as many times as Wilt blocked him
Great video. Kareem was a complete player. Could do it ALL... such a privilege to watch most of his career. I was a Celtics fan but Kareem was my favorite . Such a beautiful shot! Miss you Kareem
Ten reasons he ain’t the best ever: 1.29th rpg average 2.30th mpg average 3.19th ppg average 4.8th in blocks 5.no NBA rule changes 6.no 70pt games 7. Never won without Oscar or Magic 8.had a losing record in head to head with WNC 9. Wilt chamberlain 10.bill Russell
The greatest moments from Kareem were 1980 NBA Finals Game 5, where he scored 40 points and let LA to a 3-2 lead on Philly despite playing on a badly twisted ankle and 1985 Finals Game 2 against Boston where he had that epic turn-back-the-clock performance right after he stunk up the joint in the Memorial Day Massacre., and helped lead the way for LA to beat Boston in the Finals & especially win the title in Boston Garden.
Kareem is the G.O.A.T. period. He lost the first 3-4 years of an NBA career at UCLA without the option of playing as a freshman or going pro. Tack on another 7,000-10,000 points if he'd taken the LeBron or Jordan route.
I don't even have to watch this to agree. From top to bottom, high school, college and pro, he's the best basketball player ever. NBA accolades: 6 rings, 6 MVPs, 38K points, still effective into his 40s among other things. Could probably played another year or 2 even. He's the most dominant HS player ever, yes. Greatest college player, yes. 3 National Titles, 2 player of the years and 3 most outstanding player in the NCAA Tournament honors. Greatest pro player, I'd say most likely. When you look at him from 8th grade until he was 42 or 43 years old, he was a dominant basketball player like no other. He simplified the game and dominated. Period. Boring to watch, yes but that doesn't matter. It's about results.Side note, got robbed of the 1980 Finals MVP. He was killing Philly the first 5 games and average like 35 and 15 or so. Then Magic has one great game and he gets that honor.
It's worth noting that he undoubtedly would have won a 4th NCAA championship but the rules of the day did not allow freshmen to play so he had to sit out his first year.
His freshmen college team was able to beat defending NCAA champion by 16 points! Let say if he took as many shot attempts as Jordan per game and skip college . Kareem would have almost 60,000 career points which is insane
@@jacksmith5692 Magic played with better talent for longer than Kareem did. Magic had an All Star teammate every year. And Cap outplayed Willis in the postseason. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ KAJ v Reed⤵️ *16 RS Games (11-5 Reed)* KAJ➡️30/17/3 on 53% TS% (+3) 13/25 FG; 5/7 FT per game (50% FG) (69% FT) Reed➡️18/9/2 on 51% TS% (+1) 8/16 FG & 3/4 FT per game (47% FG) (73% FT) ………………………………………………… *5 PS Games (4-1 Reed)* KAJ➡️34/18/5 on 59% TS% (+9) 14/25 FG & 7/10 FT per game (55% FG) (69% FT) Reed➡️28/12/3 on 56% TS% (+6) 12/23 FG & 3/5 FT per game (54% FG) (74% FT)
@@majorkade He clearly outplayed Reed in the 70’ ECF; but the Knicks were way more talented as a team. ______________________________ KAJ RS 70’⤵️ *29/15/4 on 55% TS (+4) in 43 MPG* *11/22 FGM (52%) & 6/9 FTM (65%) per game* Bucks Record: *56-26 (2nd in East)* *1st in PTS* , 2nd in PPG, 3rd in TRB, 3rd in RPG, 25th in AST, 24th in APG, 17th in TS%, *1st in FGM* , 2nd in FGA, 7th in FTM, 2nd in FTA, 2nd in MPG, 2nd in MP, 4th in WS, 3rd in OWS, 8th in DWS KAJ PS 70’⤵️ *35/17/4 on 61% TS (+11) in 44 MPG* *14/25 FGM (57%) & 7/10 FTM (73%) per game* 4th in PTS, *1st in PPG* , 5th in TRB, 4th in RPG, 25th in AST, T-15th in APG, 17th in TS%, 4th in FGM, 8th in FGA, 3rd in FTM, 3rd in FTA, 6th in MPG, 11th in MP, 3rd in WS, 2nd in OWS, T-11th in DWS ______________________________ KAJ vs. *42-40 76ers (4th in East)* ⤵️ Lead by All Stars Cunningham & Greer *36/16/3 on 63% TS (+13) in 43 MPG* *14/24 FGM (58%) & 8/11 FTM (77%) per game* (W +7) 36/20/4: 13/25 FGM + 10/13 FTM▶️59% TS (L -7) 33/10/5: 13/22 FGM + 7/8 FTM▶️65% TS (W +36) 33/17/3: 13/16 FGM + 7/8 FTM▶️85% TS (W +7) 33/7/3: 13/21 FGM + 7/9 FTM▶️66% TS (W +9) 46/25/2: 18/36 FGM + 10/15 FTM▶️54% TS =============================== KAJ vs. *60-22 Knicks (1st in East)* ⤵️ Lead by MVP Willis Reed, All NBA Walt Frazier & 1st Team All Defensive DeBusschere (Reed & Walt also 1st Team All Defense) *34/18/5 on 59% TS (+9) in 44 MPG* *14/25 FGM (55%) & 7/10 FTM (69%) per game* (L -8) 35/15/5: 14/24 FGM + 7/11 FTM▶️61% TS (L -1) 38/23/11: 16/25 FGM + 6/12 FTM▶️63% TS (W +5) 33/31/5: 14/28 FGM + 5/7 FTM▶️53% TS (L -12) 38/9/1: 14/26 FGM + 10/13 FTM▶️60% TS (L -36) 27/11/2: 11/22 FGM + 5/5 FTM▶️56% TS
The greatest scorer .seeing him on the bucks he was unbelievable when he went to the Lakers he was still great but he did give up slittle of his game to fit the Laker team concept it was worth it
Aaron9 dummy if you play 20 years your points will decline especially back then he’s a center you idiot. He is one of if not the greatest scorer ever. Only Jordan wilt and Kobe really compete
Great video my dude,so nice to hear a younger dude acknowledge Kareem's greatness. Also to hear that MJ may not be the GOAT but he def is the best Finals player ever. He never lost and his numbers are astounding and never to be repeated. Still Kareem has 6 rings also so that can't be the reason MJ is the GOAT. Kareem accomplished so much and as an old man he put up numbers and was a factor still...
Kareem should have won 8 MVP awards. He was the real MVP his first 5 seasons in the league. The only reason he didn't win MVP two of those seasons was because his Bucks had the second best record in 1969 -1970 and in 1972 -1973 and the MVP was given to the team with the best record. In 1972 -1973 Kareem was 1st-team All-NBA and Dave Cowens was 2nd -team All-NBA, Cowens was given the MVP.
Kareem also is an historian, an acclaimed author, an actor, a jazz aficionado, was a yogi way before it was fashionable, and managed to remain above the malaise that plagued the NBA during the ‘70s.
I heard he likes tapioca too. By "malaise", do you mean such as when he sucker-punched Kent Benson and broke his jaw? Or, did the "malaise" start right after that? lol, a real gentleman... By the way, a yogi is a Hindu, and Kareem is a Muslim...
Karerm did well very well academically a very sound player. Dude was a man ,no drinking , no cussing, clean ,I mean clean living Man. Studied with Bruce Lee. I shit u not. He would've scored more if he had been in this generation of players . Chamberlain too. Easily.
Very intelligent man who happened to be the greatest basketball player whoever laced them up. Anytime i hear he is speaking i wanna hear what he has to say. The GOAT.
I believe that people are brainwashed into believing that MJ is the GOAT because 1980s and 1990s kids are majority parents now. Now that less people got to see Kareem, more people favor MJ now. Im 12 and Im the like the only kid my age that thinks that Kareem is the GOAT
KC SPORTS MJ is the GOAT he's most efficient player of all time #1 in player efficiency regular season playoffs and the finals there's really no argument here
Joel Villarreal Kareem will rack up stats in the regular season but when the playoff rolls around his career regular vs playoff avg. drops in points, rebounds, assist, blocks, & FG%. only his FT%(0.019) and steals(0.1) improves Hakeem's career regular vs playoff avg. improves in Points, rebounds, assist, blocks, FG%, & FT%. only his steal(0.01) drops Kareem was not as "unstoppable" as they claim. the secret was to play him physical and beat him to or push him out of his skyhook range. what would happen if you push Hakeem further out? kareem would play another great center about 4 times in 82 games but when the playoff started that 82 turns into a 7 game series. All the great centers knew this and this is why he played worse in the playoff vs old wilt (afterknee surgery) Nate Thurmond mose malone and hakeem olajuwon regardless of age or era. Why haven't anybody notice that the only time the lakers didn't make it to the finals in the 80s was when Kareem was matched up against Hakeem Olajuwon or Hakeem's mentor Mose Malone in the playoff. And then losing to Mose Malone again in the finals What dominate center did kareem beat during the years he won champs? beside solo old wilt (after knee surgery) when it was 2 against 1 if you combine the top two greatest scorer ever to play the game 39 years careers (kareem+karl malone) only 5 years was the offense not being run by Oscar Robertson, John Stockon, or Magic Johnson. the same three that everyone considered the greatest points gaurd/floor general in the history of the game. how do you think number 2 Karl malone is above 3 kobe, 4 mj, and 5 wilt on the scoring list. kareem is one of the greatest scorer of all time but you can't look over the fact that he had help. kareem career was downhill compared to hakeem's career
April 16: Happy birthday NBA (Ret.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Basketball Hall of Fame, 6 x NBA Champion, 19 x All Star, 6 x MVP, 2 x NBA Finals MVP, 15 x All Defensive Team, 2 x scoring champion, 4 x blocks leader. Thank you and God bless. Thanks for the upload, Johnny Walker LA. Blessings
@@vincentbruce9833 correct me if I'm wrong, but did Wilt dunk his free throws or did he not throw them off the backboard to himself and then dunk them? Which is why they implemented the rule where you cannot step into the Lane until the ball has hit the rim or backboard?
@@bigdan9850 My understanding is that the rule that was changed was that the free throw "must be taken from behind the line". Meaning, that as a shooter your feet must stay behind the line through your shot, including landing. Wilt used to just run from well behind the line, jump before the line, and dunk it.
I was at a game not long after Kareem came to the Lakers. They were playing Kansas City, coached by Cotten Fitzsimmons, and neither team was very good that season. Sometime after half time and the game was getting sloppy there was a loose ball at the opposite end of the court when Kareem dove for it. He some how ended up on his backside, legs splayed out in a huge "V" as the ball rolled past him. He reached out those long spider-like arms, grabbed the loose ball and made the outlet pass to the guard who converted for the score. Crazy game punctuated by the "do everything" Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Kareem is an original. The Sky hook was a shot he was forced to practically invent to get around the NCAA's anti- dunk rule. Wilt Chamberlain said that Kareem was the only guy he ever needed help to guard. Wilt was mostly unsuccessful in his attempts to block or defend the sky hook shot. I say the only person who can call their shot a true sky hook would be a center at 7' or taller. At that height, the "sky" truly enters the hook. Also, it's necessary to have large hands to shoot the shot with the wrist like a normal set shot. I'm saying Kareem's stats don't lie. Longevity is a virtue too. He maintained 24+ pts per game for 20 years. That's crazy.
Kareem abdul jabber skyhook was like a trapdoor : defender center couldn"t get out in the door/ pant :area greatest weapon in sports ;; jabber other than skyhook & dunk shot ; jump shot little over average ;& dribbling too
Wow Great video! I have so many moments. Seeing him in the garden I grew up in New York and watching him just kill it was wonderful. going to UCLA and seeing trophies (sitting on Wooden’s couch). It gave me chills experience I can’t even put into words. People talk about Jordan and LeBron and they are great in their own right but no one dominated like Kareem! The original G.O.A.T. before rest before franchise contracts before private planes!
Not really...I saw them play and Wilt would block one occasionally...never regularly...and, because Wilt was toward the end of his career, Kareem usually won the individual battles... Head to Head battles First Meeting: Abdul-Jabbar: 23 pts. (42.9 FG%), 20 Reb. Chamberlain: 25 pts. (64.3 FG%), 25 Reb. Reg. season (head-to-head) Abdul-Jabbar: 31.8 PPG, 15.8 RPG Chamberlain: 16.3 PPG, 17.6 RPG Postseason (head-to-head) Abdul-Jabbar: 29.7 PPG, 17.9 RPG Chamberlain: 15.9 PPG, 19.1 RPG
I must admit that. Never has there every been such an unstoppable and accurate shot. And dunks don't count , nor should they. You can't always execute a dunk, like you can other shots.
Definitely the greatest of all time. The only player not only to win multiple championships at every level, highschool, college, and the pro's. But had his jersey retired at every level of the game by every team that he played for. Just awesome.
Funny watching him 2-feet above the rim in college shooting layups...that's really why he was so great maybe. Instead of crushing the ball every time he got underneath, he learned to shoot in close. He could have dunked the ball 15 times a game in college but had to learn to have that soft touch.
I grew up watching Kareem Abdul Jabar To me he is the greatest basketball player of all time. people are so enamored with Michael Jordan they forget how great he was.His Skyhook was a thing of beauty and the most Unstoppable shot in basketball history. no one had a shot like that no one the true G.O.A.T.
Amen;; The Greatest ballketball player in HISTORY,, hands down, high school collage NBA bucks lakers bruins........ !!!!!,, and he is like me a Leukemia survivor,
I played center in HS, 6'6" with long arms. I would watch Jabbar every Sunday and then go practice the sky-hook. He was my hero and I wanted to be like him. He was a scoring machine and the only player that could handle Chamberland. I would have loved to see those two match up when Wilt was in his prime. Wilt was stronger and a better shot blocker. Kareem was a dead eye, I think he could have sky hooked from 3 pt land. Anyway, Kareem and Wilt are my GOATS.
85 finals against Boston. He was written off, near the end of his career and still gave the big the 3 the business. Besides that he is a highly intelligent and articulated individual. He is true asset to the NBA and the basketball community in general.
The most amazing memory to me, was the championship game between the Celtics. He hit a sky hook, I believe, from the left corner, I think it was a "Three Pointer ".
The reasons the sports media does not push Jabbar's greatness is because of his political activism which included boycotting the Olympics, supporting Ali's stance on Vietnam, being outspoken on racism in and out of the league and his conversion to Islam.
Politics are irrelevant. Mohamed Ali was loved worldwide and he's considered the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time. He was Muslim and very politically active. Many people do rank Jabbar as the greatest of all time. His numbers speak for themselves.
Golden State had this on the floor in game 7 Curry 6'2" Thompson 6'7" Green 6'5" Igoudala 6'7" Barnes 6'8" Trust when I tell you, Kareem Abdul Jabbar would score 75 points and grab 25 rebounds on these fools. Wilt Chamberlain would score 100 points and grab 40 rebounds. There is nothing at the rim. NOTHING! No height. No girth. NOTHING!
C Howard Yet, those modern guys play with press, trap, double-teams, rotation on the defensive end and they space the floor. Which NBA teams lacked before the NBA merger. Don't forget that defense is a 5 men effort. Relying strictly on man-to-man defense -- like 60s teams did for season long -- actually hurt their defense. If you have ever experienced college games, you'll understand that. I played against great defensive schemes in college. Against a great zone, when you beat someone, someone else is right in your face. You don't need toughness and grit to play defense : you just need to move effectively your feet, efficient communication and teamworks... Plus, 60s teams grabbed 42% more rebounds (poor shooting and faster pace) and teams were able to score 118.8 PPG in 1962, while taking 48% more shots... in comparison with 2016 teams! Knowing the pace factor, no past athletes would grabbed over 16 TRB or scored over 30 PPG in today's game (except if they rely on 3 points shooting). Jerry West or Louie Dampier could have scored over 30 PPG today because they were deadly shooters.
***** You're not the only one who played competitively. Zones are only effective only if you have no shooters in the gaps and you don't attack the zone from the inside out. The other way to kill any zone is to attack the gaps or step into the gaps and rotate the ball. But your points are well taken. Regardless, you cannot guard Kareem Abdul Jabbar with what GS had on the court during most of game 6 & 7. If you don't believe me, call Jerry West. Or call Pat Riley. Or call Phil Jackson. Kareem might not miss a sky hook for 3 days if you guard him with someone 6'8" 215 lbs. Today's game is weak. It's only stronger in terms of point guard ability i.e. ball handling and athleticism. Dennis Rodman lead the NBA in rebounding in the toughest era 7 consecutive seasons at 6'6 210 lbs. So don't tell me Wilt and many others wouldn't exceed that. Andre Drummond averaged 16 points and 15 rebounds last season and he is in no way Russell, Chamberlain, Nate Thurmond, Jabbar or Rodman. Do you know what you're saying sir?
C Howard No defensive scheme is perfect. But, playing strictly man-to-man defense allow your opponent to penetrated easily in the paint and allow you to feed your center as often as you like. A man-to-man defense is probably the easiest defense to face for a quality center like Wilt Chamberlain. I'm glade that you're talking about Dennis Rodman's body here. At only 6'7" & 220 pounds as a rookie, he was able to outrebounded his opponents like a certain Bill Russell did. At a mere 6'9" & 220 pounds, Russell was able to led the league in rebounds per game in five different seasons. Thankfully, Wilt Chamberlain deprived Russell to led the league 8 more times despite being smaller. Bill Russell and Rodman were intelligent rebounders. They were always in the right spot in the right moment. They knew how to box their man out. Wilt Chamberlain rely mostly on his athletic abilities earlier in his career. That's why, Dennis Rodman is still to this day, the most efficient rebounder in the history of the game : skepticalsports.com
C Howard About rebounding : Chamberlain set an unbreakable record of 27.2 rebounds per game in the 1960-61 season. *But, the typical game in 1960-61 featured an average of 147 rebounding opportunities. * During Rodman’s, from 1991-92 through 1997-98 (rebounding champion), the typical game featured just 84 rebounding opportunities. * Roughly, Chamberlain’s record 27.2 rpg would roughly translate to 15.4 in Rodman’s era - over a full rebound less than Rodman’s ~16.7 rpg average over that span. * Today, rebounding opportunities are almost the same, but since their are more threes taken, centers & PF saw their rebounding productions dropped significantly. It's just a trend, PF and centers didn't became bad all of the sudden. The league is a guard game.
***** Wilt was a better rebounder than Rodman and Russell. Balls just didn't come his way. He went after balls. I saw Wilt play in person. I never saw Russell in person. But I did see him on t.v. and listened to many games on the radio. If course, I was an eyewitness to Dennis Rodman. How old are you sir?
The most remarkable thing about his Finals MVP awards is that they were 14 years apart and his numbers were nearly the same in 1985 as they were in 1971.
They didn't mention his mind. Magic said Kareem was the smartest man he ever knew. He was the consulate team leader and strategist....he kept his eye on the outcome of the game, saving his energy, and coming through in the clutch....like Russell, helping his team first before any individual accomplishments.
MyName Brody He makes players into stars all while winning and spreading the glory some Jordan was never able to do to worried about self image even when retired he’s the only fall Hall of Famer that says he still is the best
11-Trained with Bruce Lee ....So he can kick your ass too. Now that's what should happen when a 27 win team drafts a player who is legitimately in the conversation as the GOAT....he improved them to 56 wins. Compare that to what happened with the 27 win Bulls drafted Michael Jordan....38 wins. Not bad, but the Bulls certainly didn't just add the greatest player ever to their roster and only improved by 11 wins.
Do you not understand how there wasn't as much skill and competition in that era? If kareem played in Jordan's time he'd still definitely be top 3 but between when Kareem was drafted and when Jordan was drafted the league wasn't the same.
Ryan Jacobs Kareem played in the 70s...only 10 years before MJ showed up. Or do you also mean that MJ wouldn't be as good if he played today since the players have all gotten bigger, stronger, and faster? Something tells me you won't want to keep the same standard for both players.
Not sure how Kareem is overrated. His accomplishments merit far more praise than he gets. He didn't have the advantage of having Nike make exaggerated claims about how he was supposedly better than every other player.
Hard to take any of that seriously when you typed "Kareem lost to 'insert name of one player" so many times. It's a team sport. You say: _but you can't look over the fact that he had help_ No kidding...so did *every other player who ever won anything* That's how it works. This is not news. When you don't have help, you lose. When you win, it means you had help. This isn't golf or tennis. I'll take Wilt, Russell, Kareem, or Hakeem too. Although the problem with Hakeem is he didn't develop his skills as much until later in his career. Not his fault of course. He didn't start playing the sport until his latter teens. Kinda like how Dirk became an all time great eventually, but didn't have all the skills early in his career.
Not a Lakers fan but Kareem is definitely the GOAT! I think the combination of his religious beliefs, activism and standoff-ish attitude toward the media keeps him at bay in the conversation of greatest of all time.
I love Michael Jordan. Jordan was a poet while on the basketball court. This is an immutable truth. I respect Jordan for saying that he could never assert that he is the 'best basketball player ever'. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a GIANT. His accomplishments speak for themselves. He and Bill Russell do not get enough credit for their achievements.
Machiel jordan took NBA/ machiel jordan to another level off the court ;; even beating magic johnson ; being a center position; hakeen olajuwon david robinson : patrick ewing had a better outside jump shot; better dribbler than jabber
Most people have no clue how dominant Kareem was at every level. He dominated individually and his teams rarely lost. People like to make MJ and Lebron the GOAT because being a seven footer with an almost automatic Skyhook isn't as marketable as the flashier guards. I personally think that Kareem is the closest thing there is to a GOAT. He is the best blend of stats, individual accolades, championships, peak, longevity, and overall impact on both sides of the floor. A lot of players hit some of those check marks, but Kareem is among the best in all those categories.
He might not be the greatest NBA player of all time but I regard him as the best basketball player overall. Possibly the best highschool player ever. Certainly the best college player ever. THEY BANNED THE DUNK BECAUSE OF THIS GUY!! All this even before he got to the NBA. He then had a career which was the equal of anyone.
My favorite Kareem moments were when he and Oscar Robertson joined forces to lead to lead the bucks to their first NBA championship 🏆; and when he won his second finals MVP award, at age 38, after defeating the Celtics in Boston Garden to end the series and vindicate their finals defeat by the Celtics a year earlier (and every other time the Lakers and Celtics had clashed in the finals previously).
Kareem is the GOAT. Most never saw him in his prime so they will pass him by. But of all the greats, he was the Greatest !!
Life time Celtics fan and I will agree Kareem is the greatest of all time. He is a credit to the game and more importantly a credit to the human race. Was thrilled to see him awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
@Jeff Harvey And your point ?
You cannot be a Celtics fan, even a basketball fan, and not know that greatest player ever was Bill Russell
@@mja91352 nope he played with mail men and accounts with respect to bill russel kareem was better
yall hate Magic
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You're an illiterate idiot.
38 year old jabbar won finals MVP against arguably against best front line ever!
Then lost to a 2nd year Olajuwon..
He got roasted by Moses two times! Other than that IMO, GOAT!
@GREG Hubbard ahh no one forced him to retire? when will you grow up?
@GREG Hubbard ahhh I don't think you get the meaning of facts but okay whatever man.
@GREG Hubbard then let him make a comeback and see what he does..there should no ifs and buts he retired because that was his own choice nobody prevented him to play so why should you use that as a scapegoat..i don't even heard him personally making that as an excuse ...it's you people who are bringing up that matter to justify your idolization of him
What a wonderful tribute to #33! He was the best ever on hardwood. Thanks for a great video!
The greatest player ever! And a gentleman and good guy too!!! He let his play "do the talking"....
Jabbar is in the conversation as greatest HS player ever, greatest college player ever, and greatest NBA player ever. No one else is in all 3 category. Multiple CHAMPIONSHIP domination at all stages. No one else can say that but Jabbar!
Jordan
Is still better
Larry Bird was dominant in highschool, college and NBA. Made trash teams championship contenders.
@@jonquist7089 do you compare bird with kareem???
man they hate so much in kareem
@@mustafeasad9377 yes, I compared Bird to Kareem. It's not hate it's a compliment
Modest,humble and greatness don't come together that often this man possess all three 🙏🙌
As a Celtic fan I've never forgotten that he was the finals MVP in 85 at 38 years old. His endurance was incredible. He still finished top 5 MVP in 1986 at 39 during the peak of the BIrd/Magic era.
I believe he was 37 then and although I am a Korean fan, one of the five who finished above was his own teammate, Magic Johnson!! Not taking anything away, but having the best point guard in NBA history in his prime on your team at that time surely helps! Not to mention, having one of the best teams in NBA history!
Daniel Therrien they all have help Magic still couldn’t make the shots for him, rebound or defend for him
@@bigdan9850 But if Magic weren't there, Kareem Would Have Even MORE MVP's
@@bigdan9850 Magic arrived in 1980 when Kareem was already declining, so he wasn't at his prime nor was Magic near his peak yet. They both peaked very many years apart with Kareem's being in the late 1970s and Magic around 1987 to 1990.
What's interesting with these GOAT discussions is the bonus points someone receives "because he didn't play with a bunch of all stars" which is often the Jordan argument. Well, basketball is a TEAM sport, and your ability to play with other stars should go in your favor as opposed to against you.
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Neither Jordon nor Kobe won a title without Phil Jackson at the helm. Bill Russell played for two great coaches... Red Auerbach and Bill Russell. That factor cannot be underestimated.
Kareem will always be my favorite player, I watched him play as a rookie until he retired. He was the greatest center in my opinion.
Yeah, when he sucker-punched Kent Benson and broke his jaw, now that was good basketball...
A young man with a good non bias opinion, about old school basketball. Very refreshing to hear. Good job. From, the days of letting them play physical ball.
You forgot to mention that the last Finals MVP he won, he was 38 years old. That will never be accomplished again......He’s the greatest for sure.
you dont think lebron could accomplish this?
@@jdstox1 he could but doubt it
Yes I did Kareem has so many accomplishments it's easy to forget some nobody else is even close
@@jdstox1 If Lebron were on a better team, likely.
Kareem is goat #1. Bill Russell would be #2.
To me, THE GOAT & u can't even argue that he wasn't the greatest college player ever!
Hands down the greatest. Record 6 time league MVP. Record 19 time allstar. Champion in high school, college, and the n.b.a. They banned dunking when he was in college. He resorted to the unstoppable " sky hook ". Champion with 2 separate NBA teams. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar !!! He earned all of his points. Unlike MJ who was placed on the free throw line due to other players breathing too hard in his direction e.g. check out the footage. Kareem had to resort to wearing protective eye gear due to opponents pounding the he'll out if him. Kareem was the greatest basketball player ever. He dedicated himself to his craft and continued making an impact at age 40 and 20 yrs. in the league. Extraordinary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You took the words right out of my mouth, if you played against MJ they called a foul on you while still in the locker room.... Kareem without question is the GOAT!!!
Jabbar was 6-4 in NBA Finals !!! If he was so "all world" as you claim, how come he was not 10-0 or undefeated like MJ (6-0)? MJ was better offensively. Had a complete arsenal of shots vs a "sky hook". MJ was better defensively. MJ was better in the clutch when it mattered most (6 for 6 in Finals and 6 or 6 as MVP). All while being 6'6" and did not have the luxury of playing along side the greatest PG in history (Magic). Incidentially, Magic carried the Lakers to the 1980 title with a 42/15/7 game while Jabbar SAT OUT.
You make Sone great points and I watched his whole career live on tv or at the games
He also played against a weak era of Basketball Players compared to what Shaq had to go up against.. Wilt played against 3 Great Centers throughout his career.. Look at all the good Centers Shaq went up against.. And Kareem was to skinny to Stop Shaq as well.. Nobody was stopping Shaq in his Prime the 3 peat years 2000-2003 especially
@@senseichess8688 And did Kareem ever play against SHAQ ? No ! Shaq would have destroyed him just by his size and power alone
Simply The G. O. A.T. !!!!! No question!!!!
6 MVPs, 6 Championships, the greatest offensive weapon; the skyhook, and he did it against the likes of Wilt, Walton, Cowens, Olajuwon, and Moses Malone
And Ewing, Sampson, Eaton, Dawkins, Lanier, Nate Thurmond, Parish, Sikma, Issel, Artis Gilmore, and do I need to go on???...
agreed. I'm a bulls fan, but Jordan won 6 in the expansion era 90s. Kareem did it in the 80s for the most part, a much tougher era.
G Ryen Do your homework, old Wilt shut down young Kareem alot! Young Hakeem took it to old Kareem! Magic carried Kareem through the 80s.
Shut down no. Both guys gave each other trouble. Kareem was able to lead the Bucks to the 1971 title and Kareem and the Bucks ended the Lakers' 33-game winning streak in '72. Kareem wrecked Olajuwon in their initial meetings in Olajuwon's rookie year. It took Ralph Sampson's (the other Twin Tower) help against an old Kareem in '86 to beat the Lakers in the playoffs. And finally, Kareem was the Lakers' main offensive weapon/leading scorer until the '87 season (over half-way through Magic's career) when Riley asked Magic to score more to relieve their aging captain. Magic drove the team, but Kareem was their backbone/core. Go back and study young one.
G Ryen I've played more ball than you watched dipshit. Better watch the games again side show Bob!
I've been saying it and I agree 100%. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is The Greatest Basketball Player to EVER lace up a pair of sneakers. END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!
Watch this video LeBrawnyPaperTowel...
you are a joke compared to Kareem and Wilt.😅
@@chipferguson5129 Kareem changed the game. Dunking in College Basketball was banned in the 1960's. You know why? Because of one man.
3:03 My favorite note about college Kareem.
Trying to imagine a league/governing body stepping-in to hamstring a player because they are THAT much better than their competition is absolutely insane to me.
Also, 88-2? 3 championships in 3 tries? Absolutely staggering.
The NCAA actually did Jabbar a favor when it banned the dunk after his sophomore season at UCLA because it forced him to develop a weapon that was utterly unguardable: the sky hook.
@@davroseable I saw a lot of his Milwaukee highlights recently and did not see the sky hook. I think it evolved much later than his UCLA years.
Alcindor was NCAA Player-of-the-Year three times! He lead UCLA to the championship all three years. Remember, freshmen were ineligible back then or else he may have gotten four titles.
Roky Erickson rocks real Talk
By the way the year Kareem was a freshman, his freshman team beat the varsity team by nearly 20 points. He was the best player I ever seen play at all levels.
People forget that.... He scored 57 points as a freshman against the reigning national champion that year: UCLA!! A scrimmage.. Varsity against the freshman team...
Y r u calling him alicnor lol
@@geraldwicker5318 True. And impressive. However, some of those varsity players had likely graduated. Probably wasn't the full championship team.
Thank you for this video! It goes a very long way in explaining exactly why Kareem is the GOAT! More players, coaches, GMs and people in general should watch this video, especially those that incorrectly have the notion that the likes of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron, etc belong in this category!!! They have no idea what greatness is unless they watch your video.
He is THE GOAT on and off the court
I remember watching what I believe Abdul-Jabbar's greatest victory when the Lakers beat the Celtics in Boston Garden. The Sky Hook from the right baseline over Robert Parish put the Lakers up for good. The most memorable shot I have seen Kareem make.
Love this video, I have for years felt that Kareem is one of the greatest if not the greatest of all time. But my favorite Kareem moment and there are many but this one stands out above the rest;
Beating the Celtics in the Garden in Game 6 of the 1985 NBA Finals, up to that point the Lakers had never beaten the Celtics in the Finals and had lost the previous season in 84 in 7 games, so this one was huge, and Kareem himself said when asked what was the best moment of his career he said: "Without a doubt beating the Celtics in the Garden in the 85 finals." Nuff said, Great Video.
Remember four straight sky hooks in the fourth quarter of Game 5 of the '85 finals, the last three of which came with the pressure of knowing that a miss would cost the Lakers the game, the title and their legacy? After the third one, you knew he would hit it until the Celtics would miss a shot and lose the game - and he did. That was greatness.
6-4 in NBA Finals.
I have always said kareem is the best of all time. I only need one reason to make that determination; 38387 points.
More points because he played many more games than Wilt.
+shigsho that's right. he last that long because he is the best player.
Really? Robert Parish and Kevin Willis played a long time, too. Wilt and Jordan were better from start to finish.
Well Karl Malone is far and away no 2 in scoring. Dirk Nowitzki is 6. Karl isn't the 2nd best ever, nor is Dirk 6th. Foolish comment.
+Mick A, I know your comment is foolish. So don't make it. Instead, find me another player who scored 38k points and you will earn your right to speak against Kareem's achievements. Also he lasted 20 years while playing at a high level and reaching 38k points practically without the help of a 3 point line. No one has done that ever. Kobe was breaking down in his last four seasons and was practically harmful to the team. Jordan was able to play at a high level past 40 simply because he had taken time off from the game. Otherwise he would have been like Kobe at the end. Wilt played 14 years so we would not know how good or bad he would have been had he played. Parish was warming the bench while he was with the Bulls in 1997. The only one who was somewhat effective and Malone did not have any championship rings, as compared to Kareem's 6. Last, my comment about Kareem being the best player came not from me but Magic Johnson and Michael Cooper. Mick A, I don't know how old or young you are, but you need to watch some old tapes with Kareem in a Milwaukee jersey, then you will know how foolish your reply to my comment is.
Hell yeah he is...greatest basketball player ever!!!
Hell no he isn't the greatest NBA player of all time - MJ is !!! Jabbar (Alcindor) was the greatest college player of all time.
@@johntompkins5379 agree on MJ. Actually my collegiate picks are Walton & Russell. Though awfully close in any order.
Shawn Johnson Kareem and Jordan is the greatest it’s crazy how people think lebron is greater just bc he didn’t go to college that’s crazy
The greatest player was his teammate on his first championship, Oscar Robertson.
Luis Carrion how would he win a championship with himself when it was his 2nd season you expect him to carry the team when it was his 2nd season lebron had to have a super team to win it all so stop talking 8 year old
Without a doubt Kareem is the most dominant player that has ever played. His skyhook was damn near impossible to block.
Cleone Jacob only person wilt can't block
Uh Wilt blocked the skyhook a few times. Twice shown on youtube ,As a matter of fact Wilt was the only player that Kareem had to adjust his skyhook. Kareem once shot the skyhook so high against Wilt that it ended up being a bank shot. A skyhook bank shot I'm like are you kidding me? Also remember Wilt was at the end of his career with knee issues when he contested Karrem. Imagine if Wilt was in his prime.
unless wilt was mad!
gross yeh i know after wilt blocked the hook shot t was adjusted and fixed
????? Adjusted and fixed??? What does that mean?
I agree 1000%. I remember seeing him in all these highlights starting with the Bucks. I remember seeing him hit sky hooks from 25ft in the corner.
The scene with him and Bruce Lee in game of death was phenomenal. I know it's only a movie but it was great.
You presented the best mix of Kareem's career i have seen thus far and you did a hellavu job showing the full scope of his career. Archival Kareem footage is very surreal because it shows what a singular legend he is.
I LOVED the high school footage. Great stuff
The reason Jabbar is not marketed as the GOAT is because of his religious conversion and his radical politics during the 60's. He is in the same category as Ali except that he was humble and did not boast. If any of had a clue about how the establishment views people like Jabbar then you would understand. Jordan did nothing politically challenging and was the beneficiary of those greats who had put themselves on the line as true political activists beyond the game itself.
Thanks for making this video.
kybelian not gonna lie, I never thought about that. I still consider him the GOAT, but his conversion never crossed my mind
Sooo, if it was because of his religious beliefs that kept him from being the GOAT. Then why if he was in the same category as Ali is that many consider Ali the Greatest? Because he was boastful and bragging. The establishment view of Jabbar? Ali was so hated that he lost his license, ltemporarily locked up and had to find other means to survive. I agree with a at a minimum with Jordan.
the only reason that Jordan is marketed as the GOAT is because he was the best ever...no need to find a fancy religious reason. Jordan's skills were far superior and far more extensive than Kareem's. Jordan's offensive game was far more diverse than Kareem's. nothing to to do with religion
First you can't compare MJ to Kareem because Kareem was a center and MJ was a shooting guard. Question: Why do you say MJ is the GOAT?
its not just me...its pretty much 95% of pundits and most contemporaries who say Jordan is not only the G.O.A.T. but hes also the undisputed G.O.A.T. Kareem was a very tall man, who could score using only 1 move. What if somebody figured him out? he wouldnt be as effective. Whereas Jordan had a plethora of moves that you couldnt stop. Jordan's offense was far more diversified than anyone who ever played the game.
I find it amazing that NO ONE has ever developed the hook shot like he did.
It hard to bekieve even with video learning ; jabber tried to teach
You know this jordan myth thing is so old, this guy has been the greatest NBA player for a long time, he has went against the best centers and fowards of ALL time yes when your a center you play against 3 guys not one like a cherry picking guard does .
I remember late in his career he was in a game against the Houston Rockets and they had the famous twin towers Ralph Sampson and Hakeem Olajuwan and he scorched them for over thirty points two 7 footers and he was almost 40 yrs old then
James Morrison k.
And Jabbar as 6-4 in NBA Finals. MJ was 6-0.
@@johntompkins5379 The championship teams and the players Jabbar beat ALL are HALL OF FAMER'S wes unseld, earl pearl monroe, maurice cheeks, DrJ , bobby jones, larry bird, dennis johnson, kevin Mchale, robert parish, bill walton, adrian dantley, joe dumars, dennis rodman, isaiah thomas, and coaches billy cunningham, chuck daly, kc jones , Jordans level of competition was a joke low quality ball players, no teams that won championships and thats legend NBA listing boy , got that pinhead...lol
I was at that game at the Houston Summit around 1986. Akeem was gunning for Kareem but if I remember correctly, Kareem dropped 42 points and he was around 38 years old at the time.
@@johntompkins5379 I love how Jordan homers qualify an achievement like that. 6-4 means Kareem made it to the finals four more times than Jordan, and that's supposed to be a bad thing somehow? like losing the finals is worse than not making them at all? gotta love the logic there. What about the 1994-1995 season? I mean, I get that Jordan only came back halfway through the season but how was it that the transcendent MJ couldn't lead his team passed Shaq and the Magic in the playoffs?
The real GOAT
Skyhook should defo be on the list. The best thing about it is that you just know that nobody from any era could guard Kareem because of that shot.
Well, Wilt was able to block it a few times, not often but still he did it more than anyone because no one else could haha
Blackhawk Gamer1228 Yep but that's just a testimony to Wilt's greatness. No way for example that Shaq or Hakeem would block it. Like you said even Wilt couldn't manage more then two.
Many people blocked the skyhook, Ralph Sampson, Manute Bol, Hakeem Olajuwon, Wilt, that shows their greatness, but only very few times. Also, Kareem blocked Wilt about as many times as Wilt blocked him
not with any consistency. the only way you could block it was timing the shot. i bet you none of those guys blocked it more than a handful of times
Hakeem blocked it ONCE ..
Great video. Kareem was a complete player. Could do it ALL... such a privilege to watch most of his career. I was a Celtics fan but Kareem was my favorite . Such a beautiful shot! Miss you Kareem
He was smooth and a great all time player!
When you're so good they have to change the rules in the sport to be fair to other players and teams you're Beyond Greatest status.
Simply the best, better then the rest. So humble. When he speaks, everyone listens🏀🏀🏀
When Kareem speaks, he hopes that you are listening because he loves to hear himself talk.
Ten reasons he ain’t the best ever:
1.29th rpg average
2.30th mpg average
3.19th ppg average
4.8th in blocks
5.no NBA rule changes
6.no 70pt games
7. Never won without Oscar or Magic
8.had a losing record in head to head with WNC
9. Wilt chamberlain
10.bill Russell
Kareem leading LA Lakers to 1985 NBA Championship vs Boston Celtics was my favorite memory as LA Lakers fan.
People seem to be oblivious of this man's career...regardless of the era and style of play.period.
The greatest moments from Kareem were 1980 NBA Finals Game 5, where he scored 40 points and let LA to a 3-2 lead on Philly despite playing on a badly twisted ankle and 1985 Finals Game 2 against Boston where he had that epic turn-back-the-clock performance right after he stunk up the joint in the Memorial Day Massacre., and helped lead the way for LA to beat Boston in the Finals & especially win the title in Boston Garden.
Kareem is the G.O.A.T. period. He lost the first 3-4 years of an NBA career at UCLA without the option of playing as a freshman or going pro. Tack on another 7,000-10,000 points if he'd taken the LeBron or Jordan route.
He is the goat end of discussion. All time leading scorer in the history of the league. 6 MVPs 6 rings 2 fmvps.
I don't even have to watch this to agree. From top to bottom, high school, college and pro, he's the best basketball player ever. NBA accolades: 6 rings, 6 MVPs, 38K points, still effective into his 40s among other things. Could probably played another year or 2 even. He's the most dominant HS player ever, yes. Greatest college player, yes. 3 National Titles, 2 player of the years and 3 most outstanding player in the NCAA Tournament honors. Greatest pro player, I'd say most likely. When you look at him from 8th grade until he was 42 or 43 years old, he was a dominant basketball player like no other. He simplified the game and dominated. Period. Boring to watch, yes but that doesn't matter. It's about results.Side note, got robbed of the 1980 Finals MVP. He was killing Philly the first 5 games and average like 35 and 15 or so. Then Magic has one great game and he gets that honor.
It's worth noting that he undoubtedly would have won a 4th NCAA championship but the rules of the day did not allow freshmen to play so he had to sit out his first year.
Yup. I totally agree about the 1980 Finals MVP.
His freshmen college team was able to beat defending NCAA champion by 16 points! Let say if he took as many shot attempts as Jordan per game and skip college . Kareem would have almost 60,000 career points which is insane
hes also 60,000 times more boring than Jordan. and had only one move lol.......Jordan is the undisputed G.O.A.T.
Flashyfinancier You are being an ignorant troll. Kareem had as many moves as any other great.
He is definitely the best. He dominated at every level (high school, college, NBA). The only thing MJ has on him is the flashy play style.
One fortunate NBA title without Magic and a loser 15 times in 21 games against Willis Reed!
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Magic played with better talent for longer than Kareem did.
Magic had an All Star teammate every year. And Cap outplayed Willis in the postseason.
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KAJ v Reed⤵️
*16 RS Games (11-5 Reed)*
KAJ➡️30/17/3 on 53% TS% (+3)
13/25 FG; 5/7 FT per game
(50% FG) (69% FT)
Reed➡️18/9/2 on 51% TS% (+1)
8/16 FG & 3/4 FT per game
(47% FG) (73% FT)
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*5 PS Games (4-1 Reed)*
KAJ➡️34/18/5 on 59% TS% (+9)
14/25 FG & 7/10 FT per game
(55% FG) (69% FT)
Reed➡️28/12/3 on 56% TS% (+6)
12/23 FG & 3/5 FT per game
(54% FG) (74% FT)
@@tyjohnson3111 Thanks. Facts matter.
@@majorkade
He clearly outplayed Reed in the 70’ ECF; but the Knicks were way more talented as a team.
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KAJ RS 70’⤵️
*29/15/4 on 55% TS (+4) in 43 MPG*
*11/22 FGM (52%) & 6/9 FTM (65%) per game*
Bucks Record: *56-26 (2nd in East)*
*1st in PTS* , 2nd in PPG, 3rd in TRB,
3rd in RPG, 25th in AST, 24th in APG,
17th in TS%, *1st in FGM* , 2nd in FGA,
7th in FTM, 2nd in FTA, 2nd in MPG,
2nd in MP, 4th in WS,
3rd in OWS, 8th in DWS
KAJ PS 70’⤵️
*35/17/4 on 61% TS (+11) in 44 MPG*
*14/25 FGM (57%) & 7/10 FTM (73%) per game*
4th in PTS, *1st in PPG* , 5th in TRB,
4th in RPG, 25th in AST, T-15th in APG,
17th in TS%, 4th in FGM, 8th in FGA,
3rd in FTM, 3rd in FTA, 6th in MPG,
11th in MP, 3rd in WS,
2nd in OWS, T-11th in DWS
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KAJ vs. *42-40 76ers (4th in East)* ⤵️
Lead by All Stars Cunningham & Greer
*36/16/3 on 63% TS (+13) in 43 MPG*
*14/24 FGM (58%) & 8/11 FTM (77%) per game*
(W +7)
36/20/4: 13/25 FGM + 10/13 FTM▶️59% TS
(L -7)
33/10/5: 13/22 FGM + 7/8 FTM▶️65% TS
(W +36)
33/17/3: 13/16 FGM + 7/8 FTM▶️85% TS
(W +7)
33/7/3: 13/21 FGM + 7/9 FTM▶️66% TS
(W +9)
46/25/2: 18/36 FGM + 10/15 FTM▶️54% TS
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KAJ vs. *60-22 Knicks (1st in East)* ⤵️
Lead by MVP Willis Reed,
All NBA Walt Frazier &
1st Team All Defensive DeBusschere
(Reed & Walt also 1st Team All Defense)
*34/18/5 on 59% TS (+9) in 44 MPG*
*14/25 FGM (55%) & 7/10 FTM (69%) per game*
(L -8)
35/15/5: 14/24 FGM + 7/11 FTM▶️61% TS
(L -1)
38/23/11: 16/25 FGM + 6/12 FTM▶️63% TS
(W +5)
33/31/5: 14/28 FGM + 5/7 FTM▶️53% TS
(L -12)
38/9/1: 14/26 FGM + 10/13 FTM▶️60% TS
(L -36)
27/11/2: 11/22 FGM + 5/5 FTM▶️56% TS
@@tyjohnson3111thanks for standing up for Kareem
The greatest scorer .seeing him on the bucks he was unbelievable when he went to the Lakers he was still great but he did give up slittle of his game to fit the Laker team concept it was worth it
Aaron9 dummy if you play 20 years your points will decline especially back then he’s a center you idiot. He is one of if not the greatest scorer ever. Only Jordan wilt and Kobe really compete
Great video my dude,so nice to hear a younger dude acknowledge Kareem's greatness. Also to hear that MJ may not be the GOAT but he def is the best Finals player ever. He never lost and his numbers are astounding and never to be repeated. Still Kareem has 6 rings also so that can't be the reason MJ is the GOAT. Kareem accomplished so much and as an old man he put up numbers and was a factor still...
This man became MVP in his second season in the NBA 🔥
DMR WolfGang Jordan in his second year was nowhere near a Title! The Lakers used to go to Chicago & give them that work! Go look it up!
Thk Unseld got MVP in his rookie year
Kareem should have won 8 MVP awards. He was the real MVP his first 5 seasons in the league. The only reason he didn't win MVP two of those seasons was because his Bucks had the second best record in 1969 -1970 and in 1972 -1973 and the MVP was given to the team with the best record. In 1972 -1973 Kareem was 1st-team All-NBA and Dave Cowens was 2nd -team All-NBA, Cowens was given the MVP.
@@victorliang3898 Wilt also was MVP as rookie
Kareem also is an historian, an acclaimed author, an actor, a jazz aficionado, was a yogi way before it was fashionable, and managed to remain above the malaise that plagued the NBA during the ‘70s.
I heard he likes tapioca too. By "malaise", do you mean such as when he sucker-punched Kent Benson and broke his jaw? Or, did the "malaise" start right after that? lol, a real gentleman...
By the way, a yogi is a Hindu, and Kareem is a Muslim...
Karerm did well very well academically a very sound player.
Dude was a man ,no drinking , no cussing, clean ,I mean clean living
Man. Studied with Bruce Lee.
I shit u not. He would've scored more if he had been in this generation of players . Chamberlain too. Easily.
No, he would have to shoot the 3 if he played today, and that was not his forte...
Very intelligent man who happened to be the greatest basketball player whoever laced them up. Anytime i hear he is speaking i wanna hear what he has to say. The GOAT.
Hard to argue this, he was awesome!!!!!
Kareem is the greatest player of all time period!!!!
I believe that people are brainwashed into believing that MJ is the GOAT because 1980s and 1990s kids are majority parents now. Now that less people got to see Kareem, more people favor MJ now. Im 12 and Im the like the only kid my age that thinks that Kareem is the GOAT
KC SPORTS MJ is the GOAT he's most efficient player of all time #1 in player efficiency regular season playoffs and the finals there's really no argument here
you need records jordan has none .... the defense rests pinhead ....lol Kareem has all the records check the books
d tay KARREEM IS THE GOAT
KC SPORTS
Hakeem>Kareem
Joel Villarreal
Kareem will rack up stats in the regular season but when the playoff rolls around his career regular vs playoff avg. drops in points, rebounds, assist, blocks, & FG%. only his FT%(0.019) and steals(0.1) improves
Hakeem's career regular vs playoff avg. improves in Points, rebounds, assist, blocks, FG%, & FT%. only his steal(0.01) drops
Kareem was not as "unstoppable" as they claim. the secret was to play him physical and beat him to or push him out of his skyhook range. what would happen if you push Hakeem further out? kareem would play another great center about 4 times in 82 games but when the playoff started that 82 turns into a 7 game series. All the great centers knew this and this is why he played worse in the playoff vs old wilt (afterknee surgery) Nate Thurmond mose malone and hakeem olajuwon regardless of age or era.
Why haven't anybody notice that the only time the lakers didn't make it to the finals in the 80s was when Kareem was matched up against Hakeem Olajuwon or Hakeem's mentor Mose Malone in the playoff. And then losing to Mose Malone again in the finals
What dominate center did kareem beat during the years he won champs?
beside solo old wilt (after knee surgery) when it was 2 against 1
if you combine the top two greatest scorer ever to play the game 39 years careers (kareem+karl malone) only 5 years was the offense not being run by Oscar Robertson, John Stockon, or Magic Johnson. the same three that everyone considered the greatest points gaurd/floor general in the history of the game. how do you think number 2 Karl malone is above 3 kobe, 4 mj, and 5 wilt on the scoring list. kareem is one of the greatest scorer of all time but you can't look over the fact that he had help. kareem career was downhill compared to hakeem's career
April 16: Happy birthday NBA (Ret.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Basketball Hall of Fame, 6 x NBA Champion, 19 x All Star, 6 x MVP, 2 x NBA Finals MVP, 15 x All Defensive Team, 2 x scoring champion, 4 x blocks leader. Thank you and God bless. Thanks for the upload, Johnny Walker LA. Blessings
6-4 in NBA FInals. And one title was won because of Magic Johnson (1980 vs. 76'ers).
KAJ is always who's side I take when this debate comes up. He was the best player, on the best team, during the best era. Go Cap!
6-4 in Finals.
John Tompkins so has as many rings as Jordan
John Tompkins and still has as many rings as MJ. Also played better teams in the finals than MJ
1984 in Utah listening to the game on the radio because the game wasn’t on TV! Kareem surpassing Wilt to become the NBA’s all-time leading scorer!
there is only one player ever to have a shot outlawed because of him
They outlawed Wilt from dunking his free throws.
@@vincentbruce9833 correct me if I'm wrong, but did Wilt dunk his free throws or did he not throw them off the backboard to himself and then dunk them? Which is why they implemented the rule where you cannot step into the Lane until the ball has hit the rim or backboard?
@@bigdan9850 I'm not qualified to answer that, but I read he could finger roll and dunk
@@bigdan9850 My understanding is that the rule that was changed was that the free throw "must be taken from behind the line". Meaning, that as a shooter your feet must stay behind the line through your shot, including landing. Wilt used to just run from well behind the line, jump before the line, and dunk it.
@@pnwgentleman i wish there was video footage of this, visually... without running into it, I just can not picture it!
I was at a game not long after Kareem came to the Lakers. They were playing Kansas City, coached by Cotten Fitzsimmons, and neither team was very good that season. Sometime after half time and the game was getting sloppy there was a loose ball at the opposite end of the court when Kareem dove for it. He some how ended up on his backside, legs splayed out in a huge "V" as the ball rolled past him. He reached out those long spider-like arms, grabbed the loose ball and made the outlet pass to the guard who converted for the score. Crazy game punctuated by the "do everything" Kareem Abdul Jabbar.
Kareem is an original. The Sky hook was a shot he was forced to practically invent to get around the NCAA's anti- dunk rule.
Wilt Chamberlain said that Kareem was the only guy he ever needed help to guard. Wilt was mostly unsuccessful in his attempts to block or defend the sky hook shot.
I say the only person who can call their shot a true sky hook would be a center at 7' or taller. At that height, the "sky" truly enters the hook. Also, it's necessary to have large hands to shoot the shot with the wrist like a normal set shot.
I'm saying Kareem's stats don't lie. Longevity is a virtue too. He maintained 24+ pts per game for 20 years. That's crazy.
Yes sir Kareem the 🐐
Kareem, author, director, actor, activist, historian, and athlete. Oh, and he trained with Bruce Lee. G.O.A.T.
As far as I’m concerned, as of right now Jabar is the GOAT.
Greatly underrated for sure.
Watching Kareem play was a thing of beauty. He could do it all, rebound,play defense,run the court and score. He changed the game.
Kareem abdul jabber skyhook was like a trapdoor : defender center couldn"t get out in the door/ pant :area greatest weapon in sports ;; jabber other than skyhook & dunk shot ; jump shot little over average ;& dribbling too
Kareem is a monster on NBA 2K17. Younger and older version
Omg. I remember some guy went 29/31 with him against me on 6 minute quarters. The skyhook was literally unstoppable
Imperious Rex The Younger Kareem could hit the Skyhook from Deeper Out! I know because I seen him play!
Wow Great video! I have so many moments. Seeing him in the garden I grew up in New York and watching him just kill it was wonderful. going to UCLA and seeing trophies (sitting on Wooden’s couch). It gave me chills experience I can’t even put into words. People talk about Jordan and LeBron and they are great in their own right but no one dominated like Kareem! The original G.O.A.T. before rest before franchise contracts before private planes!
The skyhook was a nasty shot. Unstoppable.
Except by Wilt Chamberlain, who blocked it regularly.
tunanorth only two times really
Not really...I saw them play and Wilt would block one occasionally...never regularly...and, because Wilt was toward the end of his career, Kareem usually won the individual battles...
Head to Head battles
First Meeting: Abdul-Jabbar: 23 pts. (42.9 FG%), 20 Reb. Chamberlain: 25 pts. (64.3 FG%), 25 Reb.
Reg. season (head-to-head) Abdul-Jabbar: 31.8 PPG, 15.8 RPG Chamberlain: 16.3 PPG, 17.6 RPG
Postseason (head-to-head) Abdul-Jabbar: 29.7 PPG, 17.9 RPG Chamberlain: 15.9 PPG, 19.1 RPG
I must admit that. Never has there every been such an unstoppable and accurate shot. And dunks don't count , nor should they. You can't always execute a dunk, like you can other shots.
@@mckinleywebb5910 Wilt shot very little by the time Kareem came in (to NBA). His role had changed a lot
Definitely the greatest of all time. The only player not only to win multiple championships at every level, highschool, college, and the pro's. But had his jersey retired at every level of the game by every team that he played for. Just awesome.
DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!!!
he is the great player of all time
not even top 10
@@JohnDoe-lb1kc muresan was better?
Good work, you make a compelling case, enjoyed watching it.
Agree 100% period
Thank you!!!!! Great vid. He is the greatest basketball of all time.
Funny watching him 2-feet above the rim in college shooting layups...that's really why he was so great maybe. Instead of crushing the ball every time he got underneath, he learned to shoot in close. He could have dunked the ball 15 times a game in college but had to learn to have that soft touch.
CLewey44 dunking was banned just because of him I think
Damm I have to agree hands down
Not even an argument from high school to pros Kareem is the greatest ever
I grew up watching Kareem Abdul Jabar To me he is the greatest basketball player of all time. people are so enamored with Michael Jordan they forget how great he was.His Skyhook was a thing of beauty and the most Unstoppable shot in basketball history. no one had a shot like that no one the true G.O.A.T.
Amen;; The Greatest ballketball player in HISTORY,, hands down, high school collage NBA bucks lakers bruins........ !!!!!,, and he is like me a Leukemia survivor,
I played center in HS, 6'6" with long arms. I would watch Jabbar every Sunday and then go practice the sky-hook. He was my hero and I wanted to be like him. He was a scoring machine and the only player that could handle Chamberland. I would have loved to see those two match up when Wilt was in his prime. Wilt was stronger and a better shot blocker. Kareem was a dead eye, I think he could have sky hooked from 3 pt land. Anyway, Kareem and Wilt are my GOATS.
Great analysis and a very solid case for Kareem being GOAT
6-4 in NBA Finals. MJ was 6-0 and MVP in all 6.
85 finals against Boston. He was written off, near the end of his career and still gave the big the 3 the business. Besides that he is a highly intelligent and articulated individual. He is true asset to the NBA and the basketball community in general.
he is the best ever
Nope Wilt
Or both
Jordan is the best ever
The most amazing memory to me, was the championship game between the Celtics. He hit a sky hook, I believe, from the left corner, I think it was a "Three Pointer ".
The reasons the sports media does not push Jabbar's greatness is because of his political activism which included boycotting the Olympics, supporting Ali's stance on Vietnam, being outspoken on racism in and out of the league and his conversion to Islam.
Politics are irrelevant. Mohamed Ali was loved worldwide and he's considered the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time. He was Muslim and very politically active. Many people do rank Jabbar as the greatest of all time. His numbers speak for themselves.
Totally not true. i was there and that was not even considered.
What can we say, he was unstoppable.
Golden State had this on the floor in game 7
Curry 6'2"
Thompson 6'7"
Green 6'5"
Igoudala 6'7"
Barnes 6'8"
Trust when I tell you, Kareem Abdul Jabbar would score 75 points and grab 25 rebounds on these fools.
Wilt Chamberlain would score 100 points and grab 40 rebounds.
There is nothing at the rim. NOTHING! No height. No girth. NOTHING!
C Howard
Yet, those modern guys play with press, trap, double-teams, rotation on the defensive end and they space the floor. Which NBA teams lacked before the NBA merger.
Don't forget that defense is a 5 men effort. Relying strictly on man-to-man defense -- like 60s teams did for season long -- actually hurt their defense.
If you have ever experienced college games, you'll understand that. I played against great defensive schemes in college. Against a great zone, when you beat someone, someone else is right in your face. You don't need toughness and grit to play defense : you just need to move effectively your feet, efficient communication and teamworks...
Plus, 60s teams grabbed 42% more rebounds (poor shooting and faster pace) and teams were able to score 118.8 PPG in 1962, while taking 48% more shots... in comparison with 2016 teams!
Knowing the pace factor, no past athletes would grabbed over 16 TRB or scored over 30 PPG in today's game (except if they rely on 3 points shooting). Jerry West or Louie Dampier could have scored over 30 PPG today because they were deadly shooters.
*****
You're not the only one who played competitively. Zones are only effective only if you have no shooters in the gaps and you don't attack the zone from the inside out. The other way to kill any zone is to attack the gaps or step into the gaps and rotate the ball.
But your points are well taken. Regardless, you cannot guard Kareem Abdul Jabbar with what GS had on the court during most of game 6 & 7.
If you don't believe me, call Jerry West. Or call Pat Riley. Or call Phil Jackson. Kareem might not miss a sky hook for 3 days if you guard him with someone 6'8" 215 lbs.
Today's game is weak. It's only stronger in terms of point guard ability i.e. ball handling and athleticism. Dennis Rodman lead the NBA in rebounding in the toughest era 7 consecutive seasons at 6'6 210 lbs. So don't tell me Wilt and many others wouldn't exceed that. Andre Drummond averaged 16 points and 15 rebounds last season and he is in no way Russell, Chamberlain, Nate Thurmond, Jabbar or Rodman.
Do you know what you're saying sir?
C Howard
No defensive scheme is perfect. But, playing strictly man-to-man defense allow your opponent to penetrated easily in the paint and allow you to feed your center as often as you like. A man-to-man defense is probably the easiest defense to face for a quality center like Wilt Chamberlain.
I'm glade that you're talking about Dennis Rodman's body here. At only 6'7" & 220 pounds as a rookie, he was able to outrebounded his opponents like a certain Bill Russell did. At a mere 6'9" & 220 pounds, Russell was able to led the league in rebounds per game in five different seasons. Thankfully, Wilt Chamberlain deprived Russell to led the league 8 more times despite being smaller.
Bill Russell and Rodman were intelligent rebounders. They were always in the right spot in the right moment. They knew how to box their man out. Wilt Chamberlain rely mostly on his athletic abilities earlier in his career.
That's why, Dennis Rodman is still to this day, the most efficient rebounder in the history of the game :
skepticalsports.com
C Howard
About rebounding :
Chamberlain set an unbreakable record of 27.2 rebounds per game in the 1960-61 season.
*But, the typical game in 1960-61 featured an average of 147 rebounding opportunities.
* During Rodman’s, from 1991-92 through 1997-98 (rebounding champion), the typical game featured just 84 rebounding opportunities.
* Roughly, Chamberlain’s record 27.2 rpg would roughly translate to 15.4 in Rodman’s era - over a full rebound less than Rodman’s ~16.7 rpg average over that span.
* Today, rebounding opportunities are almost the same, but since their are more threes taken, centers & PF saw their rebounding productions dropped significantly.
It's just a trend, PF and centers didn't became bad all of the sudden. The league is a guard game.
*****
Wilt was a better rebounder than Rodman and Russell. Balls just didn't come his way. He went after balls. I saw Wilt play in person. I never saw Russell in person. But I did see him on t.v. and listened to many games on the radio. If course, I was an eyewitness to Dennis Rodman.
How old are you sir?
Without a doubt!
Great vid man
The most remarkable thing about his Finals MVP awards is that they were 14 years apart and his numbers were nearly the same in 1985 as they were in 1971.
They didn't mention his mind. Magic said Kareem was the smartest man he ever knew. He was the consulate team leader and strategist....he kept his eye on the outcome of the game, saving his energy, and coming through in the clutch....like Russell, helping his team first before any individual accomplishments.
NBA finals mvp 14 years apart has to be on all the lists with Olajuwon and Jordan
Kareem still owns the scoring title IMO ! He did it 2 points at a time! Lebron had the advantage 3 pointers ***
No one is gonna point out that he has 19 all stars...
MyName Brody He makes players into stars all while winning and spreading the glory some Jordan was never able to do to worried about self image even when retired he’s the only fall Hall of Famer that says he still is the best
I didn't know that...wow. Thanks man.
remember martin short? don't speak too soon.
ThatOne Guy tbh he should have made 20 cause in 1978 he averaged 20 and 10
@@cheyheyway6244 I'd say that applies more to Magic than Kareem.
Definitely agree. KAJ greatest ever.
11-Trained with Bruce Lee ....So he can kick your ass too.
Now that's what should happen when a 27 win team drafts a player who is legitimately in the conversation as the GOAT....he improved them to 56 wins. Compare that to what happened with the 27 win Bulls drafted Michael Jordan....38 wins. Not bad, but the Bulls certainly didn't just add the greatest player ever to their roster and only improved by 11 wins.
Do you not understand how there wasn't as much skill and competition in that era? If kareem played in Jordan's time he'd still definitely be top 3 but between when Kareem was drafted and when Jordan was drafted the league wasn't the same.
Ryan Jacobs
Kareem played in the 70s...only 10 years before MJ showed up.
Or do you also mean that MJ wouldn't be as good if he played today since the players have all gotten bigger, stronger, and faster?
Something tells me you won't want to keep the same standard for both players.
Not sure how Kareem is overrated. His accomplishments merit far more praise than he gets. He didn't have the advantage of having Nike make exaggerated claims about how he was supposedly better than every other player.
Hard to take any of that seriously when you typed "Kareem lost to 'insert name of one player" so many times.
It's a team sport.
You say: _but you can't look over the fact that he had help_
No kidding...so did *every other player who ever won anything*
That's how it works. This is not news. When you don't have help, you lose. When you win, it means you had help. This isn't golf or tennis.
I'll take Wilt, Russell, Kareem, or Hakeem too. Although the problem with Hakeem is he didn't develop his skills as much until later in his career. Not his fault of course. He didn't start playing the sport until his latter teens. Kinda like how Dirk became an all time great eventually, but didn't have all the skills early in his career.
Wow...you just doubled down on the claim that they play 1 on 1 in the NBA.
You don't really know how the sport works, do you?
Not a Lakers fan but Kareem is definitely the GOAT! I think the combination of his religious beliefs, activism and standoff-ish attitude toward the media keeps him at bay in the conversation of greatest of all time.
Wait, isn't this a "conversation of greatest of all time"?
I love Michael Jordan. Jordan was a poet while on the basketball court. This is an immutable truth.
I respect Jordan for saying that he could never assert that he is the 'best basketball player ever'.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a GIANT. His accomplishments speak for themselves. He and Bill Russell do not get enough credit for their achievements.
Machiel jordan took NBA/ machiel jordan to another level off the court ;; even beating magic johnson ; being a center position; hakeen olajuwon david robinson : patrick ewing had a better outside jump shot; better dribbler than jabber
Most people have no clue how dominant Kareem was at every level. He dominated individually and his teams rarely lost. People like to make MJ and Lebron the GOAT because being a seven footer with an almost automatic Skyhook isn't as marketable as the flashier guards. I personally think that Kareem is the closest thing there is to a GOAT. He is the best blend of stats, individual accolades, championships, peak, longevity, and overall impact on both sides of the floor. A lot of players hit some of those check marks, but Kareem is among the best in all those categories.
He might not be the greatest NBA player of all time but I regard him as the best basketball player overall. Possibly the best highschool player ever. Certainly the best college player ever. THEY BANNED THE DUNK BECAUSE OF THIS GUY!! All this even before he got to the NBA. He then had a career which was the equal of anyone.
My favorite Kareem moments were when he and Oscar Robertson joined forces to lead to lead the bucks to their first NBA championship 🏆; and when he won his second finals MVP award, at age 38, after defeating the Celtics in Boston Garden to end the series and vindicate their finals defeat by the Celtics a year earlier (and every other time the Lakers and Celtics had clashed in the finals previously).
Jabbar is the greatest basketball player ever !!!!
Absolutely not. Greatest college player yes. He is not the greatest NBA player.
@@johntompkins5379 you are CRAZY JABBAR is the greatest basketball player of all time .