The Astros are the biggest joke in sports history. & they’ve shined a light on how big of a joke the commissioner really is. This is gonna hurt the league in a big way, and it was already on the decline smh
I know that the Astros owner was way to arogrant saying that would of won anyway !! That is not what to say at all I hope the commish comes down hard on them!!
“the cheating scandal didn’t have any impact on the outcome of the season. we had a really good team.” If that’s true then in your estimation you woulda won it anyway. Soooo...you were cheatin, why?
Same reason other guys cheat probably, you still want an edge always. I mean, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens were probably the best at their positions and they took roids. There's also the fact that every team in the league steals signs. The only issue here is that the Astros did it using video. It's not the actual act of stealing signs that's the problem. So it really is more of a ticky tack thing to be bitching about. Honestly I only think it's a story because LA and NYC wanna have an excuse for why they didn't win titles in recent years. Not saying the Astros were right to cheat, but imo they were still easily a top 3 team these past few years.
Max 117 seriously? Another Astro’s fan trying to defend this? Knowing what pitch is coming...if you know ANYTHING about baseball then that’s all you need to know about this unbelievable cheating. Completely ruined 2017 and most of 2018. Congrats cheaters! Hope that *title you got was worth it. Tainted forever.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Another astros fan shamelessly defending them. I wish I could ever be so blinded by fandom that it corrupted both my moral sense and logical thinking.
Nah, they'll still be unspeakably rich even with 50% of their pay gone. You want to really hurt them? Take away their ability to call themselves champions. You can never buy that back.
But what you don't know is Manfred made sure he got the job so he can infiltrate the Astros system and make all their starting pitchers throw 140 pitches a game. He'll ruin arms so the whole team will need TJ surgery and their careers will be over. The same thing Dusty did with the Cubs, Kerry Wood and Mark Prior and baseball will have the last laugh
@@pdgutierrez8784 yeah but i know the fact because I’m from Houston & the same year in August 2017 the Hurricane 🌀 Harvey hit us & the Cause of those sounds like everybody thinks is a trashcan sound but I think they are Repairing something in the Minute Maid park & because George Springer’s Home Run vs Mets it Was in September 2017 & like I said it was because the Hurricane 🌀 Harvey
@@anthonyurias8121 u make no sense u point out racism and then talk abt a hurricane not to mention yuli gurriel made a racist remark regarding a Japanese pitcher by doing something with his eyes smh
Chris Moss bro stop saying people are fishing for likes about molly comments. I genuinely HATE molly with a passion. And I’m definitely not alone. There hundreds and thousands of us!!
I don't usually care for Stephen A but he hits the nail on the head here. No one is saying give it to the Dodgers or Yankees, but Houston shouldn't be allowed to call themselves champions
Hmm... the drum beating and pitch-tipping should mainly affect the Astro's offense. The fact the Yankees offense struggled in Houston is irrelevant. Still, the cheating happened. Whether or not it made a difference is irrelevant. You cheated. I think the Astros should be punished and the crown should be stripped. Not knowing isn't enough for the players. You should have known. Everyone pays for the cheating by the organization. Be mad at your organization, not the other organizations or the league. This accountability is the only way to clean-up the sport.
Agree but let's say the same for the 2009 Yankees who had 4 player's using steroids.... A-Rod, Andy Pettis, melky Cabrera and Robinson cano.....Cheaters!!! And they won the world series!!!
I agree with Stephen A. The players should have been granted immunity from suspensions and fines, but their titles and rings should be returned. They didnt earn those.
Ben Houston the owner of the team basically then cheating had zero impact on the game if you don’t see a problem with that statement then that’s on you
SAS logic: "The Astros knew what pitches were coming, so thats why the Yankees only scored 3 runs in four games in Houston." Like WHAT? You're using the wrong side of the ball there fella, its the Astros hitters that were benefiting, and it's why we've mostly only seen pitchers who were on that team come out and apologize (Fiers, Keuchel, etc)
I’m a Yankees fan and I still didn’t see where he was coming from with that. It’s almost like he realized he wasn’t making sense about 3/4 of the way through. You pitches are being stolen so you can’t hit the ball?
How would tipping batters on pitches make it hard for the Yankees to score runs?!? All the cheating was for the offense, why are they making the argument about the Bronx Bombers not hitting?
@Gabriel Afonso Way to add zero value to the conversation. Think before responding, maybe. It's a legit question. It's still cheating, but the Astros' sign stealing wouldn't affect the Yankees hitting. The logic in the video was flawed even if it obviously affect the games.
RUclips is gonna have a record number of HBP videos, and asstro videos, on the whole, this season. Imagine this. "This is an ABCNews Special Report. Hi. This is David Muir, reporting from Houston. We interrupt this program to show you video of Houston Asstro's player, AND cheater, Jose Altuve getting hit by a pitch. (Shows video) We will have more video later on Nightline. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming."
Mike and they deserve it how many pitchers careers that got affected after getting lit up by this team because they knew what every pitch was. I know of 2 blue jays pitchers that got sent down and cut after pitching against the Astros and got lit up made them look like they were not good but in the end they had no chance.
Someone needs to explain to Stephen A how the sign stealing only benefits the Astros hitters at home has nothing to do with the Yankees bats not showing up on the road in that series.
@John Dillinger I mean, the point still stands. This cheat system doesn't affect how the Yankee Offense does. So why max and sas went in on that point is odd.
Cheating in all domains of society is so widespread and prevalent; it's only a matter of who gets caught, and even when they are caught, there still needs to be sufficient evidence to prove it. If there is not enough evidence, then it will not be proven, no matter what people think. Astros are a symptom of the problem, but not the main cause. Anybody who cheats in order to win without admitting what they did in order to do so is the lowest form of life in society, no matter what trophies or how much money they made. Pure slime and scum.
He worded it wrong, I know what he meant. The numbers were just backwards. He meant the astros were scoring runs agains new york pitching at home, but couldnt come through with the big hits when away at yankees stadium.
Strip their titles, take their rings. Let them keep their money. I loved some of those Astros players and I was cheering for them in that World Series. Now it just makes me feel sick. And lift the ban on Pete Rose!!! If you don't unpunish Rose, punish the players more.
Tazer recording pregame practices will easily give you the “first 15 script” of any team which is one of the accusations, also they were punished for having a cameraman set up watching coaches call plays during a game against the jets. Knowing what play another team is going to run is beyond comparable to knowing which pitch to swing at.
Not even close to the same thing lol. Not only did the act in itself give the Astros a major advantage over other teams, but their actions were deliberate and intentional, and everyone (from coaches to players) were involved in the cheating.
MrVenz81 - Yes, it sucks for the Dodgers for sure. But to me (ad a diehard dodger fan) the teams that screwed the most are the AL teams. They are the ones who were cheated the whole season. We will never know who should of faced the Dodgers in the World Series. Dodgers got screwed last.
It definitely affected. Go look at Kershaw's home and away split in that series. He was untouchable at Dodger stadium and couldn't get an out to save his life in Houston
@@aaronvaughn5028 Dodgers lost 2 World Series games at home and lost last season to a underdog team. Don't feel sorry for their trash team. They've always been known chokers
T G why are you focusing on two home games when it’s a seven game series??? Every single game in a seven game series matters? R u not smart enough to put that together?! If the Astros cheated only cheated in 3 games that still means the dodgers got cheated??
i just want her to not interupt thats all. Shes trying to be front and center on everything like a typical female especially when there is cameras around at all times
Let's be honest... When she started on this show she got recognition for wearing tops and bras that accentuated her breasts. Now she thinks she has talent.
I'd be pissed too after losing 2 World Series games at home and then losing to a underdog who went to win the World Series AND THEN lose in embarrassing fashion to multiple teams out of the last couple of seasons
And here is Pete Rose on the sideline still banned from the hall for betting and gambling. In the eyes of MLB, his crimes are worse than actual on the field cheating. How is this right?
It's still bad what Pete did since players throw games for bets but the astros are gonna be the laughingstock of Baseball for at least the early 2020s, which is sad since they came a long way from being one of the league's worse teams to becoming a contender
@@DC180PP There was never any evidence he bet against his team. The investigator said if he kept looking he believes he would have found it, but he never did. It's never been proven, and Pete denies it. I have absolutely no reason to trust some random investigator paid by the most crooked sports league on the planet.
@@kenfresno2125 it's not that though. Even if he was betting on his own team every time he had external motivation to win certain games more than others. For example if I bet a million dollars in the team that I was coaching was going to win, and not bet again for another week, all I would need to do is blow through all my best pitchers and let that worse pitchers go in the next couple of games afterwards
The owner said it didnt have an impact on the game, then 2 minutes later he was asked if he indeed said that and what he meant by it, and he then said, no i didnt say it had an impact on the gsme. Theres no remorse for their actions from any of them, just remorse that theyve been caught and found out
@@BenjHouston What is it about people being so hateful on the internet? Did someone bully you your whole life? I just made a comment a sarcastic one but a comment. You got problems bud.
@@BenjHouston I'd really like to hear from you sir. What is your problem? Why did my comment make you call me an idiot? What part of my comment shows I have low Iq?
What a double standard! These talking heads rightfully condemn the Astros, while singing the praises of so many college programs and coaches who cheat with impunity.
@@notrob14 They didn't get caught. They were snitched on. That is a big difference, Oh and you do know the Yankees and Red Sox were caught cheating in 2017
3:12 Why is SAS trying to justify how the Astros stealing signs as hitters impacted the Yankees ability to score runs in games 3,4,5 in New York??? Think he had things backwards...
I had to back up a couple times to make sure I heard him correctly. I think the outfield cams could help pitchers by showing swing patterns and the like.
@@zacwoods Yes he has lol, he was always good. If you've seen the reports, Altuve had the LEAST number of beats and Beltran and Gattis had the most beats
@@sabe2147 I mean it is her job to interject and keep the conversation rolling instead of staying on one point too long. They probably tell her in her earpiece when to speak up and move the conversation to the next point
Astros fan here. Didnt want to believe but it's obviously true. Although it may not be much coming me, but I am truly sorry to the Dodgers, the Yankees, the whole MLB league, teams and fans, and sports in general, i apologize that the Houston Astros had to resort to cheating.... I truly do not consider the stros the 2017 world champions
Leonard Hoyt it’s not cheating to shorten the right porch. If the Sox can have a 50 foot wall to stop homers, why can’t the Yankees shorten the right porch to allow for more? I assume that’s what you mean.
@@VickStarkiller Nope. Not at all what I meant. I meant he was stressing the difference in the Yankees runs scored in Houston vs NY when the Astros stealing signs have absolutely nothing to do with how many runs the Yanks score.
And Pete Rose should be. Imagine being banned from baseball for gambling but people who legit use steroids to cheat and do better are not banned and also these guys who chest are also not banned
Dusty just came out asking mlb to protect his players. That's very commendable of him but he needs to look at his players and tell them it's their fault. They CHOSE to cheat!!!
Stephen magill recording a practice is FAR AND AWAY different (to a lesser degree) than this. The pats have never done this. This is significantly worse.
Bros, in the press conf, Altuve hands on his hips, Bregman palms in prayer posture just makes you guys look bad, defensive, guilty. Relax about it and don't do that. I am an Astros fan but after seeing those pics from the Chronicle I am convinced now they did cheat. There is nothing wrong with sign stealing but don't do it in the fashion you guys did it by sending a video feed then using a trash can to signal out to the field. Just TOO MUCH. I can see a player or even a coach signaling to a batter from the bench if he thinks he sees something but besides that, NO.
@@zac3410 I am just coming in new to this and I had heard just sketchy stuff then decided a few days to finally see what happened and the first thing i see is those images and i thought right away - THEY LOOK GUILTY". Of course since then I have discovered more.
I overall agree here but the argument that the Yankees couldn't score at Houston like they did in new York had nothing to do with the cheating. The Yankee batters don't get affected by Houston batters cheating to know what their pitchers are throwing.
But y’all still call Drew Brees, Sean Payton & the rest of the 2009 Saints legit super bowl champions even though the Saints cheated against the Vikings in the 2009 NFC Championship game which lead to them winning that game and 2 weeks later winning the Super Bowl. Remember Sean Payton was even suspended an entire year that next season.. I’m glad that the Vikings keep knocking them out of the playoffs.
They didnt cheat they said to take brett Favre out the game that's just football they go out there on the football field all the time with the intention of hurting somebody
vincent vega no it was wayy more than that it was to directly target is left leg and foot. Have you seen the pictures of his foot? And of course if happens a lot but when you have players going for one area of the body play after play it’s a whole different discussion. Brett farve threw that interception due to step on that foot and not finding any power coming from his feet
@@TeamRocketCompany brett favre threw a bad pass at the end of a game what you mean he threw across his body and if you look back at the game they were all clean hits the hit that knocked kurt Warner out the game before that was worse than those hits
Ricardo Masvidal in sports u do what's necessary to get the JOB DONE! If it means bending the rules, then so be it. You WIN AT ALL COSTS. No matter what.
@@CeejayTXDS wud u agree in sports u win at all costs? Even if it means breaking the rules to do it & not get caught until months after or years after?
Funny how they’re called the Astros and their symbol is a star, they gonna be seeing a lot stars getting plunked by every team the moment they’re up at bat .
Glenn Bowers because this is significantly worse. It’s not even close. Recording a practice and signaling the batter about what pitches are coming are COMPLETELY different.
The defense stays longer on field.. The stressing watching your best pitchers getting hits left and right and getting out in the fourth inning with close to 100 pitches already. Batters would feel the pressure to help their pitchers and would try to connect anything and that's why the Yankees were almost 1,2, 3 outs innings in Houston.
@@stegaphe yeah and AJ hinch also never explicitly said there were no buzzers in his interview. Gave a lawyer response. Sounds like a clear conscience. Right
Astros will get boo'd in every away game this season.
They should get boo'd at home also but it won't happen.
They lucky they don't get strayed with bullets.!
you have NO IDEA.
Go Astros
Rajab Croswell they’ll get more then that bud
Molly: Let me just stop your entire conversation so I can step in and try to make it seem like i am involved
That annoyed me. "Let me say this..." --- Uh, I was interested in Stephen A.
You Want Cheese On That Burger? For reals 🤦🏼♂️!
I think that exact phrase is in her contract.
nice profile pic
At least she’s trying. Appreciate the attempt.
The Astros are the biggest joke in sports history. & they’ve shined a light on how big of a joke the commissioner really is. This is gonna hurt the league in a big way, and it was already on the decline smh
facts
2017 WORLD SERIES CHAMPION HOUSTON ASTROS!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🏆🏆🏆
Boom!
@@loelco8162 naw. and none of those players will ever make the hall either. hilarious.
LOELCO 81 dude you have no life whatsoever, you literally comment this on every video for attention & it’s pretty pathetic
The Astros gonna be treated like straight garbage when they go on the road this season
And it's going to be awesome to see
Scott Bridges can’t wait when they visit yankee stadium
we need to find their bench w trash cans
Probably for multiple seasons if we’re being honest
Raul Gutierrez You said it, the whole 2017 ASTROS ARE GARBAGE, not champions.
The Astros press conference just eclipsed Ryan Braun’s press conference for the worst press conference in MLB History.
nah. still bad. def not worse.
It's bad because you just hate the Astros.
Lmao
I know that the Astros owner was way to arogrant saying that would of won anyway !! That is not what to say at all I hope the commish comes down hard on them!!
@@bobstewart9365 Our owner now also seems like he had the biggest part in the scandal by that interview too
“the cheating scandal didn’t have any impact on the outcome of the season. we had a really good team.” If that’s true then in your estimation you woulda won it anyway. Soooo...you were cheatin, why?
Same reason other guys cheat probably, you still want an edge always.
I mean, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens were probably the best at their positions and they took roids.
There's also the fact that every team in the league steals signs. The only issue here is that the Astros did it using video. It's not the actual act of stealing signs that's the problem. So it really is more of a ticky tack thing to be bitching about. Honestly I only think it's a story because LA and NYC wanna have an excuse for why they didn't win titles in recent years.
Not saying the Astros were right to cheat, but imo they were still easily a top 3 team these past few years.
The Astros cheated the Yankees and the league deal with it
Max 117 seriously? Another Astro’s fan trying to defend this? Knowing what pitch is coming...if you know ANYTHING about baseball then that’s all you need to know about this unbelievable cheating. Completely ruined 2017 and most of 2018. Congrats cheaters! Hope that *title you got was worth it. Tainted forever.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Another astros fan shamelessly defending them. I wish I could ever be so blinded by fandom that it corrupted both my moral sense and logical thinking.
Greg Barnett He’s got a point tho. Don’t be close minded 😉
5:35 SAS face when Molly interrupts him 🤣
Every other clip has Stephen A or Max doing this at some point
That’s why FSF and Undisputed on fox are better no ones getting interrupted by someone who should oversee and remain quiet during the debate
She do to much
Yall are weird
thank you 2019 nationals
Millions of dollars in fines. 50% of their pay. Now that's a punishment that will stick in the minds of would-be cheaters
Nah, they'll still be unspeakably rich even with 50% of their pay gone. You want to really hurt them? Take away their ability to call themselves champions. You can never buy that back.
50 percent of their pay? How about kicking them out of the game instead.
channel I agree strip the title
@@ambitiousproductions3224 and draft picks
@@sharky2606 and kick them from the 2020 playoffs if they qualify
Dude all these people in the background with straight faces don’t even know what baseball is
H Az golf is worse :P
H Az boring for you. Amazing for me:)
🤣🤣🤣
@H Az It takes intelligence to understand it.
Even me 😂😂
Poor Dusty Baker, he’s probably thinking “I’m too old for this shi*”.
Lol fr
So Dusty Baker is gonna star in Lethal Weapon 5 with Mel Gibson lol.
I literally read this in Danny Glover’s voice 😂😂
But what you don't know is Manfred made sure he got the job so he can infiltrate the Astros system and make all their starting pitchers throw 140 pitches a game. He'll ruin arms so the whole team will need TJ surgery and their careers will be over. The same thing Dusty did with the Cubs, Kerry Wood and Mark Prior and baseball will have the last laugh
lol
“You’re not champions, you are cheaters” is the best way to describe the Astros I mean cheaters
That’s is racist with Altuve 🇻🇪🇻🇪🇻🇪
Houston Trashstros
@@anthonyurias8121 What Racist? Altuve may have won the MVP that year by cheating!
@@pdgutierrez8784 yeah but i know the fact because I’m from Houston & the same year in August 2017 the Hurricane 🌀 Harvey hit us & the Cause of those sounds like everybody thinks is a trashcan sound but I think they are Repairing something in the Minute Maid park & because George Springer’s Home Run vs Mets it Was in September 2017 & like I said it was because the Hurricane 🌀 Harvey
@@anthonyurias8121 u make no sense u point out racism and then talk abt a hurricane not to mention yuli gurriel made a racist remark regarding a Japanese pitcher by doing something with his eyes smh
Molly-"Let me ask you this in the middle of ur sentence! Fire her!
Yea...PRETTY PLEASE!!!!
That would be a dream come true. I can’t stand watching her let alone hearing her voice,,,,,,so annoying.
Out of all of this, Molly is what you were focused on. You guys are petty af lmao.
Truth. SA was reaching his crescendo and she jumps in. It was nice when she was on vacation.
Chris Moss bro stop saying people are fishing for likes about molly comments. I genuinely HATE molly with a passion. And I’m definitely not alone. There hundreds and thousands of us!!
I don't usually care for Stephen A but he hits the nail on the head here. No one is saying give it to the Dodgers or Yankees, but Houston shouldn't be allowed to call themselves champions
@Peter Toadstone no one except Astros players and fans will ever acknowledge it so it basically doesn't count lol
@Peter Toadstone houston asterisks
He is not making sense. NY failed to score because the batters knew what was coming?
Hmm... the drum beating and pitch-tipping should mainly affect the Astro's offense. The fact the Yankees offense struggled in Houston is irrelevant.
Still, the cheating happened. Whether or not it made a difference is irrelevant. You cheated. I think the Astros should be punished and the crown should be stripped. Not knowing isn't enough for the players. You should have known. Everyone pays for the cheating by the organization. Be mad at your organization, not the other organizations or the league. This accountability is the only way to clean-up the sport.
Agree but let's say the same for the 2009 Yankees who had 4 player's using steroids.... A-Rod, Andy Pettis, melky Cabrera and Robinson cano.....Cheaters!!! And they won the world series!!!
I agree with Stephen A. The players should have been granted immunity from suspensions and fines, but their titles and rings should be returned. They didnt earn those.
I agreed With Stephen A and Max and Molly
so should all the steroid championships🤣🤣🤣
Aged well
I feel like Barry Bonds has been punished worse and IMO this is worse than steroids smh.
Idk why they don't want Bonds in the hof
@@Pa1zan cuz he wasnt friendly with the media
Agreed.
Jesse Avila man, he hated the media, they constantly roasted him during the steroids allegations lol
@@manunitedevils yea thats true lol
The astros are an embarrassment to the MLB this is getting out of hand they’ve handled this situation wrong at every turn
ThaBoss25 they haven’t done anything right it is making the game of baseball a joke
Jose Altuve should be deported
They took ownership of their part so what are you talking about? Media humper.
Ben Houston the owner of the team basically then cheating had zero impact on the game if you don’t see a problem with that statement then that’s on you
Ben Houston basically said
I wanna go to an Astros game so bad this year lol. Imagine how many trolls there are going to be? 😂
Troll headquarters
Troy Morris Imagine how low key happy MLB is because of this scandal? They’re gonna make so much 💰 from this
I’m a Rangers fan so I might be able to see Altuve get murdered.
Bring your trash cans!!!!
One more day!!!!🎶🕺
“Aww I missed Molly so much” -no one ever
"Shut up Molly" -everyone
Jalen Rose is the only guy that ever misses her.
I missed molly
I miss molly
A moderator should have no need to shout to maintain control of a debate...she is a joke! I'm sorry but its the truth!
SAS logic: "The Astros knew what pitches were coming, so thats why the Yankees only scored 3 runs in four games in Houston."
Like WHAT? You're using the wrong side of the ball there fella, its the Astros hitters that were benefiting, and it's why we've mostly only seen pitchers who were on that team come out and apologize (Fiers, Keuchel, etc)
Thought the same thing, they didn’t hit on the road and the scores were like 1 run games
I’m a Yankees fan and I still didn’t see where he was coming from with that. It’s almost like he realized he wasn’t making sense about 3/4 of the way through. You pitches are being stolen so you can’t hit the ball?
I caught that aswell... I was like wait? What? He needs sleep. Lol I was like no that doesn’t help the argument.
Yeah that made no sense. Neither of these guys should speak on baseball.
Lol
"If You Ain't Cheating
You Ain't Trying"
- A 20 Year Houston Astros Fan
at Enron Field
When the astros come to your town let’s all chant “CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS”
And taunt jose Altuve n the Adam Sandler look alike aka alex bregman
As a Rangers fan, I can't wait.
I have a spanish word i plan on screming very loud...perhaps all by myself.. but idc....🤷♀️😎😠👿
Jesse Avila as a dodgers fan I would be more than happy
"YOUUU BELONG TO THE GARBAAAGE BIN YOU'VE BEEN HITTIN"
Molly always finds way🤦♀️
The number of times I said "SHUT UP MOLLY" during this clip is absurd.
JustARandomStranger for real lol it’s blasphemous what us fans have to go through
Queen how you doing
STFU Molly
Always finds a way to annoy me. Please fire her n bring back cari champion
How would tipping batters on pitches make it hard for the Yankees to score runs?!? All the cheating was for the offense, why are they making the argument about the Bronx Bombers not hitting?
Yeah that was confusing. They dropped that ball when hitting but that doesn't help their case for why they lost to Houston.
@Gabriel Afonso he is
@Gabriel Afonso Way to add zero value to the conversation. Think before responding, maybe. It's a legit question. It's still cheating, but the Astros' sign stealing wouldn't affect the Yankees hitting. The logic in the video was flawed even if it obviously affect the games.
I think his point was that they wouldn’t have scored those two runs, Altuve wouldn’t have hit that game winner
🤣
Altuve should have a steel suit of armor made for his at-bats. He’s gonna need it.
😂😂 a kids size suit
no doubt a bunch of these guys should be getting plunked every game
RUclips is gonna have a record number of HBP videos, and asstro videos, on the whole, this season.
Imagine this. "This is an ABCNews Special Report. Hi. This is David Muir, reporting from Houston. We interrupt this program to show you video of Houston Asstro's player, AND cheater, Jose Altuve getting hit by a pitch. (Shows video) We will have more video later on Nightline. Now, back to our regularly scheduled programming."
He’s gonna know what’s coming in 2020 as well
Mike and they deserve it how many pitchers careers that got affected after getting lit up by this team because they knew what every pitch was. I know of 2 blue jays pitchers that got sent down and cut after pitching against the Astros and got lit up made them look like they were not good but in the end they had no chance.
“Chicago What Do You Think?, You Think They Should Vacate It?”
Chicago: “Shut Up Molly!!”
The Humble Memphian fr that was so cringe
Kazzanova Like Seriously Man 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
She takes me out of the debate they are having, that’s why I stopped watching. I don’t tune in for the moderators.
Someone needs to explain to Stephen A how the sign stealing only benefits the Astros hitters at home has nothing to do with the Yankees bats not showing up on the road in that series.
Still cheating!!!!
@John Dillinger I mean, the point still stands. This cheat system doesn't affect how the Yankee Offense does. So why max and sas went in on that point is odd.
@@jynxycats Exactly, the Yankees' bats did not show up.
They just dont want to acknowledge the real champions
@John Dillinger Then that means they were doing the same thing.
3:12 Stephen A is all over the place on this one..
The Astros' sign stealing didn't affect the Yankees' batters, it affected their pitchers.
Uncle Sam but what does the sign stealing have to do with the other opponents not being able to score any runs? 🤔
Yankees were stealing signs also 🤦 who think though Beltran smh
Cheating in all domains of society is so widespread and prevalent; it's only a matter of who gets caught, and even when they are caught, there still needs to be sufficient evidence to prove it. If there is not enough evidence, then it will not be proven, no matter what people think. Astros are a symptom of the problem, but not the main cause. Anybody who cheats in order to win without admitting what they did in order to do so is the lowest form of life in society, no matter what trophies or how much money they made. Pure slime and scum.
He worded it wrong, I know what he meant. The numbers were just backwards. He meant the astros were scoring runs agains new york pitching at home, but couldnt come through with the big hits when away at yankees stadium.
Obviously doesn't know too much about baseball.
"I like what Crane had to say a lot" WHAT DRUGS ARE YOU ON MAX?!?!?!
Coke
Weeeeeeeeed
Craxk
Still cheating no matter what anyone says. MAX....
Sarcasm 🤷🏽♂️
Strip their titles, take their rings. Let them keep their money. I loved some of those Astros players and I was cheering for them in that World Series. Now it just makes me feel sick.
And lift the ban on Pete Rose!!! If you don't unpunish Rose, punish the players more.
Mainly altuve should be punished
This lady has to go. She's insufferable.
Mans said insufferable 😂😂😂
You gotta go - you're a woman hating bromosexual.
SAS never has this smoke for the Patriots
Because youre whining about squishy footballs and coaches film, which is nowhere near this level.
Get a grip
Tazer recording pregame practices will easily give you the “first 15 script” of any team which is one of the accusations, also they were punished for having a cameraman set up watching coaches call plays during a game against the jets. Knowing what play another team is going to run is beyond comparable to knowing which pitch to swing at.
@@Tazer183 nah. It's cheating. The actual reason is because they don't cheat in a way that is demonstrably evident.
Not even close to the same thing lol.
Not only did the act in itself give the Astros a major advantage over other teams, but their actions were deliberate and intentional, and everyone (from coaches to players) were involved in the cheating.
True
2017,2022 WS CHAMPS
LAD, and NYY are the worst cheaters in the league.
My Nats beat them. Thankfully the rest of the league informed the Nats what was up.
And your profile pic is perfect for your comment 👏😁. Yes, congrats Nats!!
Yea they switched up their signs a bit before the WS also. They weren't taking any risks
I really have respect for the Nets now...they worked their a$$ off to beat the cheaters.
5:35 YOO Stephen A. fed up wit Molly too
Just surprised this hasn't been called , "sign gate" or something
Only way this doesn’t go away and the players get punished like they should. Then the media needs to keep talking about it till they do.
How should they be punished?
ItsJulian 🏆
Sergio James Agreed. Dodgers deserve it
Big names in sport need to speak about it that way there is a lot of pressure on the MLB commissioner
You're an idiot.
I feel sorry for the Dodgers if cheating affected the outcome of that series.
MrVenz81 - Yes, it sucks for the Dodgers for sure. But to me (ad a diehard dodger fan) the teams that screwed the most are the AL teams. They are the ones who were cheated the whole season. We will never know who should of faced the Dodgers in the World Series. Dodgers got screwed last.
It definitely affected. Go look at Kershaw's home and away split in that series. He was untouchable at Dodger stadium and couldn't get an out to save his life in Houston
@@aaronvaughn5028 Dodgers lost 2 World Series games at home and lost last season to a underdog team. Don't feel sorry for their trash team. They've always been known chokers
T G why are you focusing on two home games when it’s a seven game series??? Every single game in a seven game series matters? R u not smart enough to put that together?! If the Astros cheated only cheated in 3 games that still means the dodgers got cheated??
The Dodgers were so much better then the astros lol
I've been saying all along that the 2017 championship should have been vacated by MLB.
ESPN needs to load manage Mollys apperances.... Maybe 1 day a week?
i just want her to not interupt thats all. Shes trying to be front and center on everything like a typical female especially when there is cameras around at all times
Let's be honest... When she started on this show she got recognition for wearing tops and bras that accentuated her breasts. Now she thinks she has talent.
Maybe 29 February 🤔
@@soyyo4154 exactly well said my friend
2020 Astros @ Yankees Giveaway Night: Houston Astros Asterisks logo first 40,000 fans
The minors the fans are already getting mini trash cans
Already got my tickets for that game in September Houston @ Yankees.
It’s BAT NIGHT
No, it should be trashcans to throw at Jose Altuve.
More like they will be giving a crate of eggs to throw at Houston players.
It's going to be a very enjoyable season
2020 Astros: Highest HBP % in baseball history!
I'm eagerly awaiting Aroldis Chapman's payback on Altuve.
@@krnpowr Yeah bc the Yanks are clean hahahahahaha
@@krnpowr keep waiting
Forrest Gump he did beat his wife lol
@Forrest Gump I'm just saying he won't throw pitches at Altuve he doesn't want to get suspended.
As a dodgers fan I’m kinda pissed
you should be REALLY pissed lmao
Same but it doesnt change the past, its playing a dead record at this point. Time to let go and get 2020.
I'd be pissed too after losing 2 World Series games at home and then losing to a underdog who went to win the World Series AND THEN lose in embarrassing fashion to multiple teams out of the last couple of seasons
I'm more than pissed off. I'm furious asf.
T G they ruined kershaws Incredible postseason run
The Astros are the new most hated team
I'm Astros fan, but you're totally right.
Bold new world where you have Giants fans feeling bad for Dodgers fans and red Sox fans feeling bad for Yankee fans
I’m proud of my team go astros
anto82ambriz what?!?🤦🏾♂️
The Houston Asterisks
Dodgers would’ve been the champions, and they stole that from us
Whaaaaaaaaasaaaaa who cares about the dodgers that whole state can’t make up its mind about what gender they are .
And here is Pete Rose on the sideline still banned from the hall for betting and gambling. In the eyes of MLB, his crimes are worse than actual on the field cheating.
How is this right?
i agree with Pete Rose being banned but the entire Astros team should be banned from the Hall as well.
It's still bad what Pete did since players throw games for bets but the astros are gonna be the laughingstock of Baseball for at least the early 2020s, which is sad since they came a long way from being one of the league's worse teams to becoming a contender
@@DC180PP There was never any evidence he bet against his team. The investigator said if he kept looking he believes he would have found it, but he never did. It's never been proven, and Pete denies it. I have absolutely no reason to trust some random investigator paid by the most crooked sports league on the planet.
@@kenfresno2125 it's not that though. Even if he was betting on his own team every time he had external motivation to win certain games more than others. For example if I bet a million dollars in the team that I was coaching was going to win, and not bet again for another week, all I would need to do is blow through all my best pitchers and let that worse pitchers go in the next couple of games afterwards
And the Yankees who had 26 players using PED’s in their last 5 championships, how is that right? 🤷🏻
The owner said it didnt have an impact on the game, then 2 minutes later he was asked if he indeed said that and what he meant by it, and he then said, no i didnt say it had an impact on the gsme. Theres no remorse for their actions from any of them, just remorse that theyve been caught and found out
The guy is a complete moron.
Who’s here after the Dodgers/Astros game last night
This will be the only time I ever agree with SAS.
Because you’re an idiot.
@@BenjHouston What is it about people being so hateful on the internet? Did someone bully you your whole life? I just made a comment a sarcastic one but a comment. You got problems bud.
@@BenjHouston I'd really like to hear from you sir. What is your problem? Why did my comment make you call me an idiot? What part of my comment shows I have low Iq?
I agree with Stephen A more than I will ever agree with Max
@@johndavis9988 It wasn't supposed to be smart lol, it's just a comment. You have issues buddy.
The Astros will never take responsibility for this.
Yea, because they are not sorry for what they did
@@jasminewashington5953y’all Are wrong Because They apologized in a video.
I love what he said about them being sullied the rest of their career. It’s still going that way. We will never forget.
“Maybe a little bit.” - Max 2020. First words speak volumes. A spineless response for a spineless answer.
Yeah either they are getn off or not
And ya didn’t mention Altuve won the MVP in 2017!!!! Smh cheater! Stole that from Judge!
What a double standard! These talking heads rightfully condemn the Astros, while singing the praises of so many college programs and coaches who cheat with impunity.
everyone in sports cheats astros were just the ones dumb enough to get caught
@@notrob14 They didn't get caught. They were snitched on. That is a big difference, Oh and you do know the Yankees and Red Sox were caught cheating in 2017
3:12 Why is SAS trying to justify how the Astros stealing signs as hitters impacted the Yankees ability to score runs in games 3,4,5 in New York??? Think he had things backwards...
I just wrote the same thing and now I see your message.
I had to back up a couple times to make sure I heard him correctly.
I think the outfield cams could help pitchers by showing swing patterns and the like.
@@bigtimchargers That's because Yankee Stadium is a hitter park. Stephen A. Smith doesn't make sense here and Max should've said something about that.
Kevin Allies you could tell he realized he stopped making sense half way through his dialogue
Yeah I just wrote the same thing. It had nothing to do with how many runs the Yankees scored.
I wondered how altuve hit 3 HRS against sale at home
Because he's just talented? Go ahead and look at his whole career
@@f1ves961 Yeah except Altuve hasnt really had a career outside of 2016, 2017 and 2018 (WHEN THEY WERE CONFIRMED CHEATERS)
@@f1ves961 bro he won't even deny just accept it. That's pretty fucked up
T G yeah ok it’s hard to make it believable when they cheated on every playoff game that year so
@@zacwoods Yes he has lol, he was always good. If you've seen the reports, Altuve had the LEAST number of beats and Beltran and Gattis had the most beats
Astros/Yankees at the Stadium in September. Can’t wait 😁
Wish it were sooner, hopefully the energy hasn't died down by then, but then again them Yank fans aint lettin this one go
Morpheus astros were killing the Yankees there was no way the Yankees were winning
@@devpatel7154 because they were cheating
We will whoop the frickin living outta the astros
@@devpatel7154 they cheated you heard it from Steven A
I was enjoying watching first take w/o Molly 🤦🏿♂️
They should replace Molly with Roselyn-Gold
4:50 molly - w ... wait ... wait ... lemme ... lemme ask you ..... lemme interject! ...
Jesus
She would interrupt people even during the funeral smh
Sa Be Lmfaoo
@@sabe2147 I mean it is her job to interject and keep the conversation rolling instead of staying on one point too long. They probably tell her in her earpiece when to speak up and move the conversation to the next point
@@GJBedrin you are just supporting her because shes a sassy woman we get it but fact of the matter is she literally interupts them.
@@GJBedrin she didn't interupt them to get to the next point... It stayed on the same topic
Astros fan here. Didnt want to believe but it's obviously true. Although it may not be much coming me, but I am truly sorry to the Dodgers, the Yankees, the whole MLB league, teams and fans, and sports in general, i apologize that the Houston Astros had to resort to cheating.... I truly do not consider the stros the 2017 world champions
Kim-Thoa Nguyen 🖕🏽
Bro why’d you flip him off?!?!?!!!
I consider the Astros the champs in 2017. Just like I consider the Patriots the super bowl champs every year they’ve won.
@@dexmyster11 u mad but they won the world series on the road not in Houston
corinth202 the patriots are in your head rent free
This season when every team hosts the Astros, the fans at the stadium should boo the team.
Alex Watzke they are going to get boo’d and thrown at every series best believe.
Alex Watzke they will
@@johnb4313 yup i would be terrified to be an asterisk this season
2017 WORLD SERIES CHAMPION HOUSTON ASTROS!!!🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱💯💯💯🚂🚂🚂💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼⚾️⚾️⚾️🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼
@@loelco8162 BS...the Dodgers were the best team in baseball that year.
Max: re-read Jim Crane's portion of the transcript. Crane's statement was comically bad.
Jonathan Maietta yup
I usually love what Max has to say... but my God, how could you have ANY respect for Crane? Especially after that press conference.. digusting.
Yepp that was a weak take on Max's part
Amen brother.
Stephen A. is really confused. The Astros cheating has nothing to do with how many runs the Yankees score.
Steven A Smith 1000% correct.
SAS's argument about the runs in NY is only making it sound like the Yankees were cheating at home also.
Leonard Hoyt it’s not cheating to shorten the right porch. If the Sox can have a 50 foot wall to stop homers, why can’t the Yankees shorten the right porch to allow for more? I assume that’s what you mean.
@@VickStarkiller Nope. Not at all what I meant. I meant he was stressing the difference in the Yankees runs scored in Houston vs NY when the Astros stealing signs have absolutely nothing to do with how many runs the Yanks score.
Yea i agree. Stephen A is an idiot by pointing that out he just showed how it didnt affect. They scored more runs on the road lol
Videos like these make me wish that someday, they will regularly talk about Baseball.
the good ol days are over and been over since 08 imo honestly once Jeter and ortiz retired baseball has sucked even more
MLB needs to strip the Astros man, there’s no champion that year
Other teams do the same thing. Maybe not the same way.
@@danielmackey9765 no one has done it on the level of houston
Give them a year off.
That is sad that the Astors lost with cheating in 2019 Lol
The apology was so generic...
Just as generic as a post game interview with every professional athlete...
It has a fake sense of sincerity.
He and the rest of the team basically said we're sorry for cheating but not for winning and we weren't the only teams to do so
They’re not sorry for cheating, they’re sorry for getting caught
Steven A Smith: "The Astros QUIT at the apology worse than Donald Cerrone quit against Connor Macgregor!!!"
Agree but what else could they say?
If Astro’s keep there chip, Arod, bonds, Sosa, and etc need to be in the hof
Angie Chagani big facts! 💯
🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯
I agree
And Pete Rose should be. Imagine being banned from baseball for gambling but people who legit use steroids to cheat and do better are not banned and also these guys who chest are also not banned
@Onion Head
Not Anymore! Betting on Baseball is like taking salsa packets fron taco bell and not paying for them..HaHaHa.
Manfred accepts the Astros apology & Tells the Dodgers " It's only a piece of metal" Genius problem solver
6 seconds in and I can tell Max didn't see what Crane said at all.
Where is this energy when they are talking about the Patriots.
That’s what I’m saying.
renren225 that’s facts bro
Dusty just came out asking mlb to protect his players. That's very commendable of him but he needs to look at his players and tell them it's their fault. They CHOSE to cheat!!!
Oh but the Patriots aren’t Stephen A?
Stephen magill recording a practice is FAR AND AWAY different (to a lesser degree) than this. The pats have never done this. This is significantly worse.
Bros, in the press conf, Altuve hands on his hips, Bregman palms in prayer posture just makes you guys look bad, defensive, guilty. Relax about it and don't do that. I am an Astros fan but after seeing those pics from the Chronicle I am convinced now they did cheat. There is nothing wrong with sign stealing but don't do it in the fashion you guys did it by sending a video feed then using a trash can to signal out to the field. Just TOO MUCH. I can see a player or even a coach signaling to a batter from the bench if he thinks he sees something but besides that, NO.
Idiot.
It took you that long? You're not smart.
Steven Meinking doesn’t matter how long it takes him to realize. He’s with you. That’s all that matters
That’s what convinced you? Have you researched this scandal at all? Come on man...
@@zac3410 I am just coming in new to this and I had heard just sketchy stuff then decided a few days to finally see what happened and the first thing i see is those images and i thought right away - THEY LOOK GUILTY". Of course since then I have discovered more.
Anyone who supports the astros is NOT a true fan of baseball.
Going to the Angels home opener against the Stros to let my voice be heard. Fans across all other 29 stadiums are coming for blood
The Astros are getting hit by a lot of pitches this season
Hopefully. 🤞
Cant wait
Just don't get mad when they retaliate back
Aaron Sanchez it’s a lot worse on them when 26 teams are throwing at you.
@@aaronsanchez7884 going to be fun for you, Astericks fan, watching bench clearing brawls every night. Enjoy
smith, I think this is the very first time I have ever agreed with anything you have said!
Not defending the Astros, but I don’t understand how the sign stealing affected the Yankees offense.
Keith Jones I don’t get it either
It really doesn’t..Stephen a an espn don’t understand baseball...
Yankees pitching for the worse end of the stick
Everyone ''shut up Molly''
Molly ''lemme interget ''
Interject my dude 🤘
I overall agree here but the argument that the Yankees couldn't score at Houston like they did in new York had nothing to do with the cheating. The Yankee batters don't get affected by Houston batters cheating to know what their pitchers are throwing.
Houston *
Naw.. a win is a win
Alexander Jackson lol you ain’t a fan
@@alexanderjackson8389
@@kelliepastellie8619 yup oj did win
There’s also evidence that they cheated on the road in 2017 too😂
I love that none of those players will ever make the hall of fame and none of them will likely ever make another all star game. Makes me happy.
Sorry buddy but several of them will, including Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole and either Jose Altuve, Alex Bregman or Springer.
@@TheToddbart uhhh no…. Altuve springer and Bergman are no where near hall of fame caliber lmao
@@Jiff321 I said one of those three, not all of them. We'll see. Your statement was none of them will be in the HOF or All-star game.
Keep that same energy when you talk about Brady belichek and the Patriots too
M Pi preach preach
It’s because his suck squad of a team got luck and beat them twice. Inexplicably.
Not the same.
@@paultrembathbryson you're right it's not the same, the Patriots have been caught cheating on multiple occasions!
But y’all still call Drew Brees, Sean Payton & the rest of the 2009 Saints legit super bowl champions even though the Saints cheated against the Vikings in the 2009 NFC Championship game which lead to them winning that game and 2 weeks later winning the Super Bowl. Remember Sean Payton was even suspended an entire year that next season.. I’m glad that the Vikings keep knocking them out of the playoffs.
GillyJerdeUdigg I don’t know anything about how they cheated in that game, what did they do? Cos if true stuff em
They didnt cheat they said to take brett Favre out the game that's just football they go out there on the football field all the time with the intention of hurting somebody
undefined legend they set a bounty on Brett Farve. And if you look at what Brett Farves foot look like after the game.... it’s nasty
vincent vega no it was wayy more than that it was to directly target is left leg and foot. Have you seen the pictures of his foot? And of course if happens a lot but when you have players going for one area of the body play after play it’s a whole different discussion. Brett farve threw that interception due to step on that foot and not finding any power coming from his feet
@@TeamRocketCompany brett favre threw a bad pass at the end of a game what you mean he threw across his body and if you look back at the game they were all clean hits the hit that knocked kurt Warner out the game before that was worse than those hits
Just a sad story in baseball history. How can we ever look at it the same.
The Astros make the MLB look bad
Ricardo Masvidal in sports u do what's necessary to get the JOB DONE! If it means bending the rules, then so be it. You WIN AT ALL COSTS. No matter what.
MLB has been looking bad for a while now lol
@@CeejayTXDS wud u agree in sports u win at all costs? Even if it means breaking the rules to do it & not get caught until months after or years after?
Cheaters FOREVER! GO CUBS!
Ceejay Lopez How so?
Im tired of the molly comments start a petition please we need to take action
With two big voices like Stephen and Max, there is no need for a third no matter who it is.
Funny how they’re called the Astros and their symbol is a star, they gonna be seeing a lot stars getting plunked by every team the moment they’re up at bat .
I'm not a baseball fan but why didnt anyone act this way when the Patriots cheated?
Glenn Bowers because this is significantly worse. It’s not even close. Recording a practice and signaling the batter about what pitches are coming are COMPLETELY different.
Not sure how the sign stealing stopped NY from scoring in houston though. I'm confused about that part of their report.
I was thinking that too. Were they stealing signals from the manager to the hitter or base runners?
The defense stays longer on field..
The stressing watching your best pitchers getting hits left and right and getting out in the fourth inning with close to 100 pitches already. Batters would feel the pressure to help their pitchers and would try to connect anything and that's why the Yankees were almost 1,2, 3 outs innings in Houston.
@@jcga5368 that could make sense. Thanks for the reply.
@@jcga5368 that is the biggest stretch against a valid point i have ever seen
I lost so much money in Vegas 2017 WS!
Should get my money back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A's fans get ready bring your trash cans to the game when Houston comes to town!!!
Catch me in the bleachers with the garbage can
And get ready to lose another wild card game
The NFL does it to just look at Super Bowl 54 you can pay your way to Championship there too
Am I the only one who thinks rings and trophies should be taken back
Dylen Worthington I agree
Derwin Lock your favorite player up James
highly unnecessary to correct him there like we all knew what he meant
@@vincentrodriguez947 yea your right
Altuve only apologized for 2017... He's still not sorry for wearing the buzzer last year... What a joke
There was never evidence for him wearing a buzzer
@@stegaphe yeah and AJ hinch also never explicitly said there were no buzzers in his interview. Gave a lawyer response. Sounds like a clear conscience. Right
allen stegemiller absence of evidence is not evidence of absence