Filip Zieba Debunked - TikTok's Worst Conspiracy Theorist | Pt. 1
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Howdy friends. In this video we begin our deep dive into the prolific misinformation TikTok account run by Filip Zieba. Filip posts content discussing the worst takes on just about every pseudoscientific topic you can imagine. From pyramids to antarctic civilizations to hollow earth to lost advanced ice age civilizations. Parroting most of his work from more notorious psuedohistorians like Graham Hancock, Filip doesn't have too many new theories, but laces all of them with a layer of personality that is rarely seen from other creators. In this video we begin our dive into his channel by tackling his claims about antarctic civilizations, hyper diffusion, the Bosnian pyramids and much much more. So sit back, relax and get ready for some good old fashioned "googledybunking."
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
02:58 Filip Zieba Debunked
09:18 Round 1: Allegedly Fictitious Anthropomorphic Bird
11:04 Round 2: Hyperdiffusion
16:18 Awful Archaeology Speedrun
17:53 Hyperdiffusion Examples
22:13 Round 3: Ruins in Antarctica
27:43 Tim
34:03 Round 4: Filip's Character
40:12 Round 5: Googledybunkers
41:52 Round 6: Maps of Antarctica
51:36 Round 7: Hollow Earth
1:02:46 Round 8: Pyramids in Antarctica
1:04:06 Round 9: Pyramids Around The World
1:10:56 Round 10: The Bosnian Pyramid
1:30:32 Credits: See you in Pt. 2!
CITATIONS AND REFERENCES:
1. anthropology.msu.edu/anp364-f...
2. ahotcupofjoe.net/2017/11/fuen...
3. www.asor.org/anetoday/2016/09...
4. www.merriam-webster.com/wordp...
5. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
6. slate.com/technology/2014/12/...
7. www.bbcearth.com/news/when-di...
8. earth.org/antarcticas-floral-...
9. www.nature.com/articles/s4158...
10. eos.org/science-updates/an-un...
11. www.climate.gov/news-features...
12. www.washingtonpost.com/archiv...
13. www.cbsnews.com/news/antarcti...
14. archeothoughts.wordpress.com/...
15. www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...
I asked my 9 y.o. students why there are pyramids all over the world and their answer was: because they don't fall down.
They're not wrong lmao
Heck ya
Makes sense
They are all clearly part of the illuminati and want to hide atlantis
They almost never fall down. The pyramid with the changing slope could colaps if the builders continued the steep angel, the Zikurats like Babel have faild (ok, zikurats are kinda different buildings).
Conspiracy theorists from the 5000s saying that Attack on Titan is evidence of giants in the 21st Century, and furry art is evidence of animal people in the 21st Century.
I don't like what 5000s conspiracy theorists will say we did after they find out about pokemon copypastas
Shape of Water and alien movies are proof of Atlantis and aliens building the pyramids
What they gon say about science fiction 🤣@@FeeshUnofficial
@@HxH_Weeb- hmm, concerning to think these people will think we had a worm god emperor that ruled the entire universe for thousands of years in the most cruel way
@@FeeshUnofficial oh naaaa
"As long as there are stupid people, I can pay my fuckin' mortgage!"
As a software engineer, this resonates with me.
If you're anything like a game developer, well I'm not gonna say anything because it's not nice to insult people.
@@GTSN38 i moved into business software like 6 years ago, lol. I wouldn't knock game dev as a stepping stone.
No it’s true though. I’m the opposite of tech smart. Which is bleak because I work in publishing…
"We have satellites that can *literally see the entire Earth.*"
"That's nice, but Imma trust this map from the 1500s instead."
Oi vey...
Maps are like a fine wine. They get better and better as they age
I can see why he's got so many views, yall believe your spinning on a ball😂
@@jknowledgenet2748
I'm just hoping this is bait...
@@pluto-skies4323 It has to be bait, real flat-earthers don't have the balls to watch scientific videos.
@@honzasivak1200 Bruv was speaking like every single Facebook post I have seen in my life.
When I was a child trying to make a sandcastle on the beach, when the bucket shape wouldn't hold, I immediately made a pyramid. Traditional archeology doesn't want you to know I'm 45,000 years old.
You're a direct descendant from an ancient globe-spanning empire but mainstream academia doesn't want you to know that
Have you tried using wet sand for the bucket shape
You must be a 45,000-year-old alien. It's the only way you'd know how to arrange the sand particles correctly to form that shape.
Literally used to make pyramids with my blocks because they’re sturdy
Don't Google the average human lifespan guys.. it will just lie to you
Milo meeting his cousin through searching for AI generated photos was a bigger plot twist than anything Filip has ever said
Bigger plot twist than Sugar episode 6
Now, which one knows someone that knows Kevin bacon?
plot twist: his cousin is ai-generated
Quite a coincidence. Very suspicious! Could be a psy-op?
There's a joke here, but RUclips doesn't like it.
I love how people can't fathom the notion that maybe, just MAYBE people in the past were capable of creating fictitious characters just like they are now? We didn't just wake up during the iron age one day and realize "hey, we can make characters who can do stuff normal people can't!" like we've been doing that since people have been communicating with each other! Whether people believed it was real or not doesn't make it any less fantastical.
This comment is about Atlantis. And like everything but ESPECIALLY FICTIONAL CITY ATLANTIS FROM THE WORKS OF FUCKING PLATO
Conspiracy theorists in 2000 years will say people used to have super powers since we’ve written so many stories (comics) and have video evidence (movies)
I totally agree with the notion that mythical creatures are probably people's imagination. What I'm concerned about is stone age people building things that we may not be able to build today and they built everything way faster than we do. It takes a construction crew with heavy machinery about a month or 2 to resurface a section of street that's a block long, hell it would probably take us a thousand years to build a pyramid. I fully believe that we were more advanced in the past and somehow that technology was lost. Some things we'll probably never know.
@@GTSN38 the reason it takes so long is due to much of the stuff underneath the ground and a majority is cost. It’s cheaper to drag out a job instead of having it completed in a few days/short about of time
@@GTSN38 Except we're fully capable of building everything they built in the past, and thats hokey BS. Listen to yourself when you say that somehow piling a bunch of rocks in a big pyramid would take us "thousands of years" but somehow we can build an infinitely more complex structure like a skyscraper in a decade or less.
Give a toddler some blocks and see how long it takes for them to build a pyramid.
I mean i dont remember how I was as toddler but for sure as a child i built towers instead of pyramids but ok
Though with different size błocks i think a toddler wouldve made a pyramid
@@Hello-bs8dn Fair I can only remember as far back as Lincoln Logs.
I gave my kids blocks and I shit you not a UFO came down and a little gray man ran out and kicked me in the balls
“If you want to see the hollow earth video… [sigh] leave a comment.”
Milo, of course we want to see you do a hollow earth video. We are an audience of sadists.
Engaging with this comment to make milo suffer for our entertainment
*Dance, anthropology boy, dance!*
Isn't at least one hollow earth theory linked to nazi ideology?
Yes! Dance!
hmm i almost think thats in flat earth territory and out of milos wheelhouse
I teach 8 year olds. Last week one of them came up to me and told me that “earth is flat and Antarctica is a wall”. I must have stared at him in abject horror, because he cracked up laughing and said “Got you!!” He then followed up with saying his sister found a video “proving” it on TikTok but “Miss, it’s so STUPID.” If the 8 year olds have the critical thinking skills…
See, i already know kids will watch those kinds of misleading videos the most but i know they are the least susceptible to misinformation. It’s the adults I’m worried about 😂 cause adults will build backyard 1 man rockets to prove the earth is flat. Then die when their parachute doesn’t work. These are what we know on shows as villains 🦹♂️ very worrisome cause the idiot’s rocket will crash on an innocent smarter bystander
when kids are allowed to ask questions, they tend to be able to poke holes into bs.
The average iq has plummeted, its shocking how many adults have less than child level intelligence. modern society has been privileged enough to let these people not die to natural selection
I am so proud of this 8 year old kid and I don't even know them.
My wife teaches special ed. kids that age; I'm consistently surprised at how bright and insightful they can be, as well as the silly thoughts they can have. XD
Other people: “Oh no he's promoting a scam involving pyramids”
Me a Googledebunker: “Oh no he's promoting a pyramid scheme.”
i was waiting for this joke
It truly amazes me that there are supposedly educated adults that really believe nonsense like hollow earth, giants, the mud flood, flat earth, aliens building the pyramids and all the other crazy things they talk about.
There's also way to many people who still think politicians have our best interests in mind and aren't in it for their own gains. 😅
but believing wearing a used nappy on your face will totally save lives isnt crazy at all XD.
it makes me laugh how many people who whine about people who believe in flat earth/giants/etc but believe literally the dumbest crap possible, because tv told them its real and people showing them actual evidence of something thats freely available to everyone is lying.
you are all conspiracy theorists. you just pick and choose what stupid s**t you believe and point fingers at everyone else.
if you believe the Governments official line on the JFK assassination, in that one bullet bounced around the body a bunch of times, shot by one guy, you literally believe in a whacky nonsensical conspiracy theory that was created by the US government that isnt even close to being based in any possible reality. You literally believe in a crazy conspiracy theory, while pretend people like Woody Harrelsons dads story of the 7 shooters including him in a drain which while *not* proven *can* be backed with reality based evidence is just completely off the wall and crazy. BECAUSE TV AND GOVERNMENT TOLD YOU TO BELIEVE IT.
pick a side and stick to it.
If humanity ever colonizes another planet or a Moon, we should build a pyramid there just for the hell of it.
fr. conspiracists could watch the pyramid be built in their lifetime, and still say it was alien guidance
@@lostforwar5619the one time aliens actually built a pyramid.
@@lostforwar5619 that would be like a dlc for them
We will be the ancient aliens!
we should make a bass pro shop pyramid there
Weird how Big Science doesn't want us talking about how spiders all over the world build almost identical webs. The obvious conclusion is that there was an advanced globe spanning pre-ice-age spider civilisation that taught them all. I've said too much... I'd better go now.
It goes deeper. Ants all over the world dig and build nearly identical nests. One nest in particular stretches 6000 kilometres from the Atlantic coast of Spain to northern Italy. What advanced alien technology do the ants have to allow them to build something that partly circumnavigates the entire planet?
*THE ANTS AND SIPIDERS RULE THE WORLD!* Don't let the ant and spider-people in the world government on *ANTarctica* fool you! The lizards are another lie to hide *THE TRUTH!* If I am never seen again, know I went down fighting! Australia may be lost, but you can still fight back! Don't let big ant-spider fool you! *They're in your walls and gardens RIGHT NOW!* 😂🤪
This would blow their mind
Not saying was aliens - but it was!
Guys!! You are giving away the secret Spiders vs Ants nuclear war that destroyed their civilization and allowed humanity to rise.... Ooops.. Gtg
My dyslexic dumbass just realized 1 hr in that this guy’s name isn’t Flip Zebra
I’m dyslexic, that being said I had a tutor that helped me overcome my difficulties, still I have problems reading, how the fuck did you mess that up
@@Idkwhatmyusernameshouldb-fl4ro never overcame mine. Plus I did say more than dyslexia was at play lol
@@Lalatina13 damn, I have been outsmarted
I'm not dyslexic and I missed it several times while It was in my recommendeds so don't feel too bad.
I absolutely read it as flip zebra when I clicked on the video.
As a math teacher, the second that Filip said "the three hills connect to make a perfect triangle," I had to pause the video because... uh, yeah? Any three points will make a triangle if you connect them, that's literally what a triangle is.
Not any three points . . .
@@phoenix. Well, I guess they could all be on the same line, but that's literally the only other option.
The 2 day wait is going to drive me googledybunkers.
😂😂
Same fr fr
😂😂😂
Im fucking crying 💀
We in this together bro
What a weird flex that it's not even the scientific community that is pooping on your theories, but anyone with internet access can prove you wrong.
Finally, we are closing in on _Them. They_ are a mysterious organisation that is trying to cover up every -bunch of nonsense- truth. Previously we thought _They_ only included "the mainstream academia" but the limit of _Their_ influence has never been found. Recent appearance of googledebunkers suggests that everything is much worse. _They_ got to everyone with functioning critical thinking and internet access!
I'm pretty sure the group of people he is trying to reach is of the mind that google (Alphabet) has the control of information, so anyone looking for facts on Google is just dumb and not getting and "true" information. The way he says it sounds like he is trying to be derogatory, and it's just so funny and confusing if you aren't deep into the pseud info hole
Shut up where is your common sense
@@davidbaker4903 yeah and THEN thats when he should whip out his big girthy degree and slap it on the table or whatever saying "nah i know this shit actually" lmfao, but of course then its the liberal bias in the education system, not the educated bias in the liberal voter base XD
@@davidbaker4903you’re not the David baker from Simon are you?
I live in Las Vegas. The Luxor is one of the better tourist trappy attractions on the strip. When Filip asked why modern humans "can't" build pyramids while the ancient ones could, I legit flipped out, just because I almost literally have a pyramid build by modern peoples in my backyard.
Hi Milo, love the work as always. Around 1:02:06 you talk about the hollow earth book and mention you arent an English Literatute major. Fortunately, I am. I even have a Masters degree in English Lit.
The framing device of trying to portray a fictional event as real was a common trope used in fictional writing at the turn of the 20th Century. As travel literature became a genre (which was literally just people writing about travelling around the world), people took an interest into places outside their own bubble. They wanted to know about places like Antarctica, the Arctic Circle, Africa, Asia etc. So, as a fiction writer, one way to get your story to print was to frame it as a real account. This is often called verisimilitude, the idea of how accurate a thing is to reality such that it does not break out immersion. Theres obviously some level of suspension of disbelief when we read a piece of fiction, but the less we need to suspend and the more believable it is, the more verisimilitude a story has.
Over time, going into the 20s and 30s with pulp magazines and the first science fiction magazines being written, what originally started as essentially a marketing gimmick morphed into a literary device that called attention to itself. For example, many of H. P. Lovecraft's works are framed as actual events that took place. However, the fractured mind of the narrator who experienced something he cannot comprehend calls this insistence of a real recounting into question, which then works to layer the work even further. In essence, calling attention to the fact this clearly fictional account is trying to be real works in favour of the narrative, as we come to question the reliability of the author. It then becomes a game we play: how much are we willing to accept at face value and what embellishment has been made? What did the narrator actually see and what are they exaggerating or adding to the story, and most importantly, why are they doing so.
Of course, it can still remain a marketing gimmick, and was still used by, shall we say, less talented writers as a way to get their work published and feed into the zeitgesit of this need to read actual accounts by real people. It's why, if you want to write a story that pays homage to early science fiction, especially ones set in the Arctic and Antarctic, it's pretty much a given you have to use this technique, simply because it was so prevalent.
As for why Arctic stories became so popular in the first place, I can only speculate, since I'm not a historian, but I can pretty confidently say it coincided with the 20th century revolution in science and world issues. We became a globalist culture for the first time in our history, yet the Polar regions remained unexplored and largely unexplained. It was a place where we could allow our imaginations to run wild, since we had so little understanding of what was actually going on there. Even if no one took these fiction pieces at face value, they satisfied a need for curiosity and imagination about one of the few last truly unexplored and uncolonised areas of the planet.
Thought I'd end this by letting you know again how great of a job you are doing. I always love your work and, as a fellow 20-something year old who also has a love for academics, I love the laid back style you have to teaching these things. So often we get the idea that academics and people with degrees are stuffy and boring, but the bombastic fashion choice (which I absolutely adore) and the integration of jokes with actual facts really helps in keeping people engaged
Used by Aristoteles to tell the tale of Atlantis as well.
“Also, I’m friends with your cousin” almost gave me whiplash.
Almost???
It DID give me whiplash
That was insane
I was fucking floored when he said that.
That was amazing.
I once moved from Atlanta to NYC. While there I went to a game night where I met a guy who was from Atlanta. We started talking and it turns out that while in college, he dated my best friend from high school. Weird world.
On behalf of data-driven, critical thinkers everywhere: thank you.
Holy bnased
Holy bnased
I only liked your comment because you donated 100 clams
Holy bnased
Holy bnased
Isn't this enough?
Just this world?
Just this beautiful, complex, wonderfully unfathomable, natural world
How does it so fail to hold our attention that we have to diminish it with the invention of cheap, man-made myths and monsters?
Maybe because that there are people who don’t see it that way, and want to believe outlandish bullshit because of how uninvolved their lives will lead. They are desperate to be whisked away by something strange and full of wonder much like how a princess wants to be whisked away by a knight in shining armor. It’s why people believe in things such as the rapture, or how they worship people like Trump, or how they believe in aliens. It’s because they can’t handle realism and how depressing the system has always been, so they’re desperate to create as many false escapes as they can while choosing to be blind to reality and trying to deny that the only real escape for them is the cold, nothingness of death. It’s pretty sad tbh.
Another more common example of how desperate people have become to attempt false escapes is either by drugs or alcohol. Delusions are often relied on, but ends up being their greatest enemy in the end.
It's good to see a "callout video" that directly addresses the creator that is doing harm, with an actual (relative) degree of respect, and ask them directly to change.
Ofc people doing absolutely despicable things that get called out aren't always people you can reason out of their behavior, but a lot of the current YT climate seems to bring "point and laugh" type of videos to the top.
Milo accidentally learning about a family member and is going to meet them in his googledybuncking efforts is fucking hilarious
Don't you hate it when your historical rabbithole digging ends up being a genealogy reunion?
Conspiracy guy created his whole RUclips and tik tok to get Milo’s attention so he could reunite him with his cousin. It was a psyop all along.
She google my de till I’m bunkers
I was laughing so fucking hard when that bit came on, honestly thought it was a joke at first but damn.
@@Valigarmanda that moment when you're an anthropologist but forget that you're a human too.
Basically:
Furries are the oldest hobbie ever invented by humanity, and they're the basis of all cultures
Glad to know I’m carrying on an ancient tradition
I actually conspiranoically believe that. And it's really something that came to me on a trip, to make it funnier.
But yeah, the idea that the first thing we figured out how to make was skinning animals for pelts, and that at some point before sewing someone figured out you can skinn a carcass whole from a human sized animal and make perfect fitting clothes without having to sew anything. Therefore, furries are integral to human development, and the basis for most cultures development, as integral to humanity as preparing food or throwing rocks.
But I must say I absolutely hate the implication.
@@taiyoqun we awe the piwwaws of civiwization UwU
I think I got brain damage writing that holy shit
@@SkullpunkArt i got brain damage reading out loud bud, and I'm a furry!
@@SkullpunkArt I think I hate you.
I'm sowy.
Holy shit you're right it gives brain damage
Imagine getting dunked on by a lad wearing oven mitts
You really get the feeling that Filip has never once googled the name "Jules Verne"
Hard to claim a man is part of “big archeology and trying to silence me” when he has squirrels in his attic and is debunking you in the heat of a stick candle
To be fair, in New England all of us are kind of cold and have squirrels in our house somewhere
Big Archeology: we bring our own squirrels.
If he’s in the pocket of big archaeology and there is a squirrel in his pocket, does the squirrel work for the CIA?
Not only are the birds fake, but the squirrels are too!!!😨
This made me cackle
Historian here. If there’s one thing I’ve always said, it’s that it’s human nature to turn everything we touch into pyramids. It’s all pyramids. The MLM girlies have been right the whole time.
I have a Master’s degree.
Look at the bass pro shop pyramid, you theory isn’t wrong
If the internet didn't exist until 2002 then how did thousands of MLMs develop completely independently of each other before people could even communicate over long distances? Checkmate aliens.
Let's agree that if you start piling up rocks, a pyramid is the easiest way to keep the pile standing, right? No secret rocket science there.
The masculine urge to build a big triangle.
@@SuperZergMan And the feminine urge, I want to build a big triangle too
Came here to laugh at idiots that do pseudo history.
Did not expect an incredible analysis of how AI generated imagery is incredibly dangerous to society.
fun south america fact (from a south american): there's an island off the coast of brazil that is off limits for people because it has the second highest snake population density in the whole planet. can't imagine why a map would name a place in south america as "the place with a lot of snakes" /sarcasm
I've watched toddlers stack blocks and, through trial and error, they figure out eventually that a wider base and narrower top is the most stable way to stack blocks. Apparently, all the toddlers I know are either super-geniuses or aliens. I lean toward aliens.
Those sound like woke toddlers, any true real brave warrior patriot knows that toddlers should only be watching YT shorts unsupervised…
All toddlers are aliens. Though I'm curious that they can actually build pyramids without first eating the blocks.
But have you ever seen the Baby Geniuses movies though? About as believable and coherent as a lot of this alt history stuff too!
Yeah, plus even cuptowers and cheerleader formations are in triangles/pyramids. It's just the easiest way to distribute weight when you want to build higher lol
@@lachlanmckinnie1406every block is tasted first that is how you know where to stack it. This is elementary stuff here:
1. Feel brick
2. Throw brick
3. Cry about thrown brick till it is given back
4. Bang against other brick
5. Taste brick
6. Place brick
Repeat until pyramid happens.
the more you say googledebunker the more it sounds like a phrase taken from scoobydoo
Like, googledebunkers Scoob!
Googledy bunkerly doo where are you
OMG you're right! I can totally hear it.
Shaggy & Scoob say "Zoinks" & ro-roh"
Velma & Daphne say "jinkies" & "jeepers"
Fred says "googledebunkers"
Jinkies!
some people never played with blocks as a child and it shows
Something so magnificent of Post Video Editing Milo having a distinctly EncinoMan outfit talking about Ice Age glaciers.
“I’m gonna assume you have a business degree” is one of the meanest things I’ve ever heard
As someone with a business degree, it HURT 😂
If Filip is educated beyond his G.E.iDiot certificate, his usage of the phrase "ain't" suggests that he attended a community college or state school.
i have an econ BA, and that does summarize a good deal of the most loathsome finance bros
@sabrinafletcher7884 right, as a marketing major, the only people scummier than us were the finance bros
It's both interesting and weirdly funny, how many marketing and business degree people recently have been yeeted to the sun for their research. Or "research" [ _side-eyes a specific, one-eyed, purple triangle head in particular. Among others....._ ]. It feels like the whole field of business schooling is being run through a wood chipper. And as a healthcare field student... _I have no idea_ if it's justified or just a reeeally bad coincidence of timing? But it sure is amusing in a "what the fudge muffins' stain on a ceiling, is going on?" kinda way.
Googledebunkers? I was googledebunkers once. They put me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with rats. And rats make me googledebunkers...
I award you 1000 Internet Points for this response.
I'm confused how to put the rocks going up...
Im calling the police for a wellness check 😂
This is the best thing I read today, thank you.
I'm sure they put cell ticks in your rubber room as well.
its crazy to me how full-circle hollow earth has come. like... it was a big conspiracy back in the day. then it was pretty soundly disproven a NUMBER of times, in a number of ways, leading to the theory to become fodder for some pretty good fictional works (and a lot of them). and now its cycled back to conspiracy theorists unironically citing those fictional works as historical texts... wild
31:54 the irony of someone getting mad that someone else stole their algorithm generated images is absurd. “Nooo I stole it first”
tell me you don't know how ai works without telling me
Haha you're so right, i'm glad we know where those images come from but that's about it, the guy is also stealing images himself so he has no right to speak lol as an artist, it's unaccpetable behavior to me
@@sydliminal
Are you saying this to yourself in a mirrory, or what?
the process of training an ai is _necessarily destructive_ - this means that an ai "learns" from the images it's trained on, and then those images are destroyed and not stored anywhere in the model.
"stealing" actually deprives someone of something, generating images with ai does not. barring direct img2img generation and cases of overfitting (which can be rectified via de-duplication), one couldn't even make the case for plagiarism, much less theft. in fact, the output of generative ai is so far removed from any image used to train it that it's transformative enough to not even qualify as copyright infringement.
generative ai can also create what's known as "novel information" - say, for example, your training data includes in its millions of images, pictures of various kinds of monkeys, pictures of cigars, and pictures of people smoking objects that are not cigars. however, you specifically want a picture of a monkey smoking a cigar. the ai takes what it has "learned" about monkeys, smoking, and cigars in order to produce the novel information of "monkey smoking a cigar."
furthermore, even if it _was_ "stealing," artists have been doing that forever - take the nearly two century old technique of "appropriation," which is "the use of *pre-existing objects or images with little or no transformation applied to them.* ... In the visual arts, "to appropriate" means to properly *adopt, borrow, recycle or sample aspects (or the entire form)* of human-made visual culture."
the process of training an ai is _necessarily destructive_ - this means that an ai "learns" from the images it's trained on, and then those images are destroyed and not stored anywhere in the model.
"stealing" actually deprives someone of something, generating images with ai does not. barring direct img2img generation and cases of overfitting (which can be rectified via de-duplication), one couldn't even make the case for plagiarism, much less theft. in fact, the output of generative ai is so far removed from any image used to train it that it's transformative enough to not even qualify as copyright infringement.
generative ai can also create what's known as "novel information" - say, for example, your training data includes in its millions of images, pictures of various kinds of monkeys, pictures of cigars, and pictures of people smoking objects that are not cigars. however, you specifically want a picture of a monkey smoking a cigar. the ai takes what it has "learned" about monkeys, smoking, and cigars in order to produce the novel information of "monkey smoking a cigar."
furthermore, even if it _was_ "stealing," artists have been doing that forever - take the nearly two century old technique of "appropriation," which is "the use of *pre-existing objects or images with little or no transformation applied to them.* ... In the visual arts, "to appropriate" means to properly *adopt, borrow, recycle or sample aspects (or the entire form)* of human-made visual culture."
"I can't go five minutes without seeing a UFO."
Nor can I. It's spring and I am very bad at identifying bugs.
love this one lol
🥰
That’s brilliant
Lmao
XD
As an art historian I get MAD when people try to use ancient Egyptian art to justify giants etc bc it was a DESIGN CONCEPT. Hierarchical sizing denoted the importance of figures. Pharaohs were depicted as giant and servants,slaves, and lower positions were depicted as minuscule. It just feels like common sense!!!!
As another art historian, I literally groaned out loud in public watching that part, the “big people in art must mean giants” thing is fucking… so absurd. I was coming down here to make a comment about hierarchical sizing myself haha
especially because it’s seen all the time IN BASICALLY ALL ART OF EVERY CULTURE. like have you ever seen art before? 😭😭
Like, how else were they going to denote who’s most important in an obvious? Use the realistic foreshortening design skills they clearly didn’t have or use?
Thing is for us born after perspective in art, and photography, was invented. Hierarchical sizing doesn't register. I had to have it explained to me because we moderns just don't do it. We are trained from a very young age to take an image as more or less literal. We actually have to be taught later that some images aren't, and could never be, real. Later still we have to be taught critical thinking.
Olde timey people had rigidly hierarchical social structures. So important person=big in an image makes sense. We're all raised with the myth of equality, and that we're smarter than olden timey dumb dumbs. So the idea that an image would mix an abstraction (which is too smart for olden timey dumb dumbs) like important person=big, everyone else=small means that person is literally big.
I'm a mere history teacher, but the sad thing is that 12 years old kids in my classes can easily deduce that the size means an important person, but alleged adults on the internet can't...
Btw the fake lost diary is hilarious I recommend that you at least read it
Up to this point I always thought pseudo-archaeology was just silly, but you made it pretty clear that it can be quite harmful.
it's basically with any kind of conspiracy theory: If you can make someone believe that "they" are lying to you about a certain topic, it is easy to make them believe that "they" are lying about other things too.
so Flat Earth, Anti-Vaxx, Creationism, Pseudo-archelogy, etc. all lead to each other and have a snowball effect.
Props to MIlo for obsessing over "Celtic" for five minutes only to progress into calling Reuters "Rooders" without a flinch.
Its roodering time.
Average Bostonian
@@slightlyaboveaveragebutaveragethe bostonian pyramid?!?
Thank you for doing the Lord's work.
Hooters
Can't believe MiniminuteWOKE is a googledebunker! This is going to drive me googledebonkers! Next time I'll go googledewild with rage!!!
time for me to make this about trans rights
@@skullscope time for me to do some trolling in Tian'anmen Square on June 4th
@@skullscopetime to make this about the Industrial Revolution and its consequences by Theodore “ted” Kaczynski
@@skullscopeand it's all because of the break down of ancient astronauts DNA not being compatible with the earth atmosphere so not the end of human alien hybrid is over. The last "pure breed" humans will be the only ones left. Aka white successful men, all others will perish due to their inferior genes. .....😂😂😂😂😂
Googledebonkers
"Why don't we build pyramids anymore?" Dude has not seen the Bass Pro Pyramid. Edit: Nice Milo mentioned it
Filip: "How come modern man can't build pyramids?"
Luxor in Las Vegas, built in 1993: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU?"
The Bass Pro Shop Pyramid, formerly a basketball arena; *exists*
3 days ago Filip Zieba published a video suggesting that reality is just a simulation, because some people have never seen their neighbours carrying groceries into their houses.
It’s amazing what we miss seeing just because reality doesn’t center around us personally, isn’t it?
Or maybe we are just so disconnected to our fellow humans nowadays, that we do not care for when they do groceries. (For better or for worse.)
I mean clearly the neighbors are performing photosynthesis for sustenance
It's wild that you guys are all ai in the simulation I'm in.
it's like, how often do your neighbors see *you* bring your groceries into the house, it's literally the logic of babies lmao
“Russian version of 4chan” is the most horrifying thing I’ve ever heard
wait till see 2pink, the japanese version of 4chan-reddit hybrid
@@dibyaudhdas1978 please never say the words “4chan-Reddit hybrid” again 😰
If it's anything like regular 4chan, 90% of the comments on the post were calling it fake and gay.
@@dibyaudhdas1978I have heard nothing but horror stories from there. Like more so than 4chan
Mfw 2chan isnt the obvious "japan's 4chan"
I personally love the longer format! Keep it going dude :D
My literal pet rats build pyramids. They just stand good idk it’s not that hard to figure out “pile don’t fall down” but these lunatics think you need like, divine intervention to even conceptualize a pyramid
As someone of Mi'kmaq descent, the idea that my ancestral language is somehow "connected" to ancient Egyptian would be laughable if it were not so culturally dismissive.
I like to flip it around and assert that the Egyptians are descended from an ancient, advanced Mi'kmaq civilization.
Both cultures are descended from the flying spaghetti monster people.
Yeah i feel the same way lol, especially since all its going off of is how we both drew pictures 💀💀💀 the spoken language have little to no similarities
@@DarenMiller-qj7bu The Flying Spaghetti Civilization (they no longer like to be called “monsters”) are descended from the Grays 👽
Seriously, why do these theories always have to connect back to ancient Egypt? (Unless it actually is something Egyptian, then in those cases it was aliens.) A video like Milo suggested sounds WAY more interesting - one exploring possible reasons why the Mi’kmaq created a written language while many other indigenous groups did not.
The fact that a con man is making soo much money off of a lie while an actual museum is struggling to make repairs due to lack of funds is truly the most disappointing thing I have heard all day. This shit makes me soo fucking sad and mad.
100%.
got to love capitalism
@@teotab4293 Something something best system we have, have had, and will ever have something something go to Venezuela.
Erik von Daniken holds the title for richest pseudohistorian on the planet. And he's even been to.prison for fraud before he switched to legal marketing of fraudulent history.
yeah, if the so-called “mainstream archaeologists” are so sneaky and manipulative, why don’t we have more funding for programs and academia 😭
Just found your channel with this video and it immediately told me i need to binge all your content
came for the essay vibes, stayed for the giant ground sloth
"Why don't we build pyramids anymore?"
My guess is our technology has advanced to the point we can build tall buildings going straight up.
We just made the sides extremely steep, they still get made every day 😂
Pyramids are easy to make structurally sound and are more efficient than single story buildings. We have just progressed to the point where we can make structurally sound buildings that are more efficient than pyramids.
We also don't see our leaders as gods anymore. At least for some that is.
Also we literally still do build pyramids. One of the largest pyramids in the world is a Bass Pro Shop built in 1991
@@tardvandecluntproductions1278
Pierpoint Morgan allegedly seriously planned to have himself a Pyramid bigger than Cheops pyramind, with, for the time modern tchnology.
As a Bosnian myself, I hate Semir Osmanagić and the Bosnian pyramids with a burning passion.
Two main reasons:
First of all, as you said, they take resources from actual archeological sights in the country. We had had people here since the dawn of humanity. Neolithic sites, romans, Illyrian, the very interesting medieval church of bosnia with the fascinating stećci, tomb stones that have been neglected. I am pissed off at this.
But, what makes me really really mad is the degradation of Bosnian history.
One of the biggest and shittiest speaking point during the war and now is that Bosnia doesn't exist or that it didn't and that's why it's ok to hate us and do ethnic cleansing (I'm simplifying a very complex narrative of a very complex country).
And our response, instead of propping up centuries of real history and culture, has been to make up this idiotic idea?
It's very easy for someone to say "well, bosnians made up piramids. They probably made up the genocide in Srebrenica in 1995 too."
Bosnia is very much real and has been for centuries. We plan to stay here, thank you very much and you are all welcome to come and visit our real sites.
How about a very beautiful bridge? How about those stećci I mentioned, I adore them? How about some Austro Hungarian architecture or medieval castles?
We have so, so much and we don't need stupid fake priamids.
Yes, go to the city of Visoko. They have amazing food, but don't go to see those stupid hills.
This frustrates me on your behalf. I often call this sort of thing the "get off my side" phenomenon. People share your side in an argument but do such a terrible job representing and supporting it that they do more harm than good. It makes you wish they were on the other side. They'd be doing more good for you there.
There's also a lot of cool Roman ruins in Bosnia.
That stuff sounds awesome, il be looking that up thanks!
I once knew an ex British Sapa who was responsible for clearing mines over in Bosnia.
He got called away to something else one day, the day he was meant to be defusing a mine. That day, his buddy stepped up and lost both his arms.
Yeah bud, the Bosnian war was for real.
one of the most insidious things about genocide is how its culprits try to manipulate and twist history to legitimize their crimes
So stoked to find this channel. I love videos that are easy to listen to while I'm working, cleaning or crafting. I love that you had that intent specifically.
The absolutely most wild part to me about this was the bit where it turned out Tim was like the best friend of your cousin, wild shit
That’s honestly so funny because Harry Houdini HATED mediums and people who worked in that line of work, actively going out of his way to disprove as many mediums as he could 😂😂
The original googledebunker
Sad background for anyone who doesn't know: he lost many loved ones and knew what it was like to desperately want to talk to them again, and hated con artists who profited off of grief 😢
@@erinaa9486 The con artists certainly didn't help their case when one of them tried to give a grieving Houdini a handwritten message from his dead mother. Written in English. A language that his mother didn't speak.
They made a great enemy that day.
Still do too, stage magicians are notorious debunkers because they know the tricks e.g. James Randi, Criss Angel, Penn and Teller.
@@Axius27 i'm sure you know this anecdote already but im putting it in the thread cuz it's great
another thing he did was set up a secret codephrase with his wife, so that when one of them passed that ghost would have this secret codephrase that only the two of them know that would confirm 100% for sure that it was really the other one
houdini passed before she did, and in her lifetime no medium ever managed to conjure up the codephrase
I’m an archaeologist and I get asked about giants all the damn time (something that never happened once before TikTok.) From now on when I get asked I’m just going to hand them a business card with a QR code to this video and tell them that it’s a link to all the secret data we’ve been forced to hide.
Omg yes please do that.
actually, the topics of giants have been around since ancient time.
@@vegas-crew What they mean is that no one ever asked them about giant's before TikTok was a thing, but since those conspiracys theorists started spreading their bs on that app, all of a sudden a bunch of people that have about as much archeological knowledge as a rock started asking about giant's and those kinds of thing's
Stop hiding the giants. My dad is one and it makes him upset archeologists keep denying his existance.
That would drive them Googledebunkers
The number of times he said googdly bunker in 1 minutes broke my brain.
Can we just talk about the fact he said reptilian species and then in another video said dinosaurs are fake I wonder what are giant reptilian species
"Written in Comic Sans" really got me. I exclusively print work documents in Comic Sans to punish my coworkers for being flat-earthers.
we can trace it all back to the ol' whoopie cushion in the hand trick ;)
@@theathrylmakes the sun shine and the birds chirp
I purposely print stuff at work in Comic Sans to piss off my graphic design colleagues 😂
Ah, yes, my favorite character from One Piece, Google D. Bunker.
*We Are starts playing*
Holy crap, that actually does sound like the name of a One Piece character... and now I can't unhear it.
D.B. Cooper's accomplise?
WE GOING TO BE THE PIRATE KING TODAY
With his special power, given to him by the Know-Know Fruit!
Hey man, just commented on part 2 but let me say again here to boost that engagement; love these videos. You’ve done a lot of great things, this is my favorite so far. 👍🏻
i havent watched the second part yet, watching this has made me a fan of you and your channel so a subscriber gained for sure. some constructive criticism i have would be to go into more detail debunking all of the clips you show of this guys tiktoks. I saw there was a few giant skeleton clips in there that werent discussed except the ancient giant sloth one. I assume the others are just photoshopped pictures and such but still would have liked more detail on that stuff. Secondly, I would personally prefer if you approached his clips from a more analytical perspective, you did a great job of this for the most part, above and beyond for the ai generated Antarctica stuff but it seemed some of the time you wanted to just make fun of his points more than actually scientifically deconstructing what points he states. im probably in the minority with that opinion though and I completely understand that it was probably because it was more entertaining to do it that way, i just personally dont know much about any of these topics so detailed and scientific debunking of all relevant points would have gave me a stronger knowledge base which i always approve of! looking forward to watching part 2 now! thanks for the great new content to binge !
agree 100%
I get what your saying with him wanting to make fun of his points rather than deconstructing them but to be fair, filips points are absolutely terrible lmao, I don't blame him for making fun of filips arguments, plus he already does a good job deconstructing his points and sprinkles in humor to entertain us so it's not just some boring debunking video, but hey I'm glad you're a fan of his channel, seeing him getting recognition and his view count going up is awesome👍
The pyramid in Antarctica is the equivalent of finding a perfectly round rock but for people who don't go outside
That is somehow exactly the level of "isn't it WEIRD that something like this could happen on ACCIDENT??"
OMG YEAH THEY'RE JUST COOL ROCK PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T TOUCHED GRASS IN MONTHS
no no no you don't get it, what if there were TWO perfectly round rocks????
Not even it's more like finding a slightly close to perfectly round rock then announcing ALIENS taught ancient planets to build Spheres
@@RerekTheRangerMayIndeedExist Okay but seriously, perfect circles do NOT appear in nature. They just don't. Ergo, aliens built the solar system.
I refuse to believe that a pilot would see a hole in the ground in ANTARCTICA and go “yeah ima fly into that”
lol I feel like that’s kinda badass if they did do that
Clearly trash but cool as spit
Ace Combat players be like:
@@ssfbob456thought the same thing lmao
Damn, you made my point. That's not how caves are explored.
But If he did so free bird would be playing.
Giants exist. I saw one as a child. Then Hulk Hogan body slammed him.
35:03
- The irony here is that they're literally showing the world that they can't read a graph. Just because a previous spike is roughly as high as current ones, doesn't mean there's no warming, in fact you can CLEARLY see on the graph that the averages have substantially increased, and the averages are important, not the peaks...
Sorry MIlo, I'm gonna have to fact check you here. The boston Celtics DO have an underword known as "basketball hell" where Larry Bird tortures you for missing freethrows.
Do they ALSO have 'Shipping up to Boston' playing in the background there?
@@lucasriley1383 yes, they use Spinal Taps's amps so its always at 11.
@@lucasriley1383 So TIL that's the name of that song. Well met.
After their loss to the heat Larry Bird had a field day tbh
oh I heard about that,
he's euphemistically called Byrd of Paradise in the masochism community,
he's like their king and theyre bad at ball
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Lol Much Love!!
The lack of part 2 is driving me googledybunkers
It's been two weeks! I'm googledybunking out here :((
Stolen
ngl my bunkers are getting so googledy for part 2 right now 🥵
@@CarlosMongeLunaWhat
My googles have been bunkered by the googledybunkering on part 2. 🥺
take a shot every time milo says "smoking gun", might make some of these clips more bearable
Simple debunk: It turns out when you put a lot of people together in isolated groups, civilizations, they tend to come up with the same ideas eventually because as it turns out we live in the same world.
The only answer to "why are there pyramids in Egypt" should be "because the English couldn't steal them!"
ate some yummy mummies tho 🤤🤤
@forestboi9760 🤤🤤🤤
@@forestboi9760🤤🤤🤤🤤
The Byrd theory is so funny to me, because it involves a pilot in a fucking 1920s biplane deciding to randomly fly into an unexplored cave. *No* pilot would ever do this, unless he was deeply suicidal. What if the cave didn't have an exit on the other side? Even if it did, you're probably going to clip the wing against one of the walls and crash.
The Archeologists don't want you to know that he was actually tractor-beamed into the cave!!1! /s
Most people wouldn't even enter a cave like that with no preparations on *foot* let alone flying through 😂
@@samc9133thanks for putting /s couldnt tell obvious sarcasm was obvious sarcasm
@@DirtyGeorgethe Internet is stupid. It is better to be clear then misconstrued.
@@borderlinecrazy6444 tbf
I discovered you with shorts and loved it. Watching this video, you got another subscriber. Really informative and also pretty damn funny. Keep up the great content man!
1:28:02 One might even call it a government sponsored 'pyramid scheme'... I feel dirty for that pun, but I couldn't see it in the comments, and it needed to be said.
So you’re telling me some people believe a pilot saw a giant hole in Antarctica and decided to just fly into it without any concerns of a possibly dead end?
^You seem to be unfamiliar with the super-secret Flying Spelunker squadrons of the mid-twentieth century.^ (^ = sarcastrophes)
Perhaps if they were military? They have crazy confidence, because they kinda have to be.
@@alchemicmercury there’s a difference between idiotic and brave, but also it would be very difficult to explain as a military pilot why you crashed an expensive aircraft into a hole in the ground.
@@alchemicmercury🤦
The pilot knew that the fastest way to Naboo was through the planet's core.
"I will fly to Bosnia and debunk it myself."
That's not an empty threat.
so glad part 2 is coming out real soon, ive been putting this off until then so i can watch the full thing
At 39:07, the image Filip Zieba is using is an illustration from Amonkhet, a magic the gathering expansion loosely based on ancient egypt. It’s honestly kinda pitiful
"Keeping an open mind" means that you're willing to accept and admit you were wrong about something when presented with indisputable proof, _not_ that you're willing to accept absolutely _everything_ as fact.
Keep your mind open enough to let stuff in but not so open your brain falls out of your head
@@ethanstyant9704hah😂
JFK was open minded
Louder for the stupid please.
@@bredsheeran2897 Up until he was *open* minded.
The "why did so many cultures make pyramids" thing is so funny to me. It makes big triangle sound like some super advanced technology
i mean it’s more about the feat of the stones and how impressive it is for any culture to do, let alone at the times they did, also having them all over is pretty cool humans love pyramids
A pyramid is the most stable shape, as they say
Children naturally make pyramid-ish shapes in a sandbox. And when stacking stones in play, whats the shape it ends up in? Also pyramid-ish.
It's a thing that just by play one figures out. So...yeah.
It's literally the most basic of pile shapes beyond mounds
That's just what big triangle wants you to believe.
why don't we build pyramids ?
Me going to the Louvre : what is this ????
I find strange when people ask "well why do so many places have pyramids?" Brother, they are triangles. It's not hard to understand.
They follow the same principles as a pile of dirt: narrow at the top, wide on the bottom. Filip really be looking at 2 piles of stones on different sides of the planet and thinking "But how could both of these civilizations know how to make a pile?!"
And so many also vary a lot in the details (pointy top, room at the top, rooms inside, size, mounds can be a similar shape/idea, etc)
"How can we make structures that won't fall down for long periods of time?"
Literally a man-made mountain.
Literally. My daughter is 5 and likes to stack the rocks in our yard into a pyramid, like it’s one of the first shapes people learn lmao
I built sandcastles as a child with zero knowledge on how ancient castles were built, that can only lead me to believe that I had a subconscious link to ancient castle builders in my ancestry
You obviously have freemasons in your blood
Bro is the pharaoh
Pharaoh's didn't build castles...@@tofudemonweoeiwowowo
Bro you had a bucket to fill in the shape. The aliens left us big buckets we filled with stone and turned upside down, dummy
THE WISDOM OF THE AGES WAS REBORN IN THIS CHILD!
I haven't laughed out loud so unapologetically at something in a loooong while as much as I did every single time you said "This guy drives me googledebunkers".
I'm honeslty not even in a state to dissect what exactly is so profoundly humorous in that joke, but I just know it is.
I'm back to watch part 1 again before I watch part 2. I like your content and video style, keep up the good work.
I can't get over the idea of a secret ancient civilization that simply Did Not Fuck
Virgin ancient civ vs. Chad "idiots with no ability to stack rocks"
Ancient Civilization guy in the corner of the party: "they don't know I can stack rocks"
Sounds on brand for an ancient advanced civilization that was 100% absolutely wrecked by 1cm (being generous) per year sea level rise.
They probably had a hard time getting in the mood ever since their living rooms got all wet. Sure, they could take a step away from the sea every few decades, but then they'd have to rebuild all those highly advanced structures. Sure, they had magnetic levitation technology to lift the stones, and laser drills, but still. What a hassle! They were too spiritually advanced to care. My spirit animals. /s
They committed mitosis
ooh ooh wait - don't tell them this but you maaaybe could argue that that's Prüf they're aliens because no cross-species genetic drift!
"Do your own research."
"Okay I did, and it proved everything you're claiming is a bold faced lie."
"Wait, no not like that!"
"That's what they want you to believe, dude"
"Do your own research" means "uncritically believe in everything I tell you".
Or "you're just a Googledybunker"
57:18 the amount of self-assurance it takes to write a book where you say “actually, noted magic debunker Houdini had magic powers”
it is not unusual that different cultures discovered how to make pyramids.
A Pyramid is a Stack of rocks, stacked in a such a way that they do not fall down for a very long time,
sooner or later any two humans with more than a few brain cells between them will figure out how to stack rocks so they don't fall, even if it takes a few tries.
My 3-year-old nephew making a little triangle stack of blocks so they don't fall over.
Me: "WHO TAUGHT YOU TO DO THIS?!!"
The lost civilization of Gjtklepenb and aliens from Kepler 22b
He’s obviously communing with ancient aliens who grant him the powers of telepathy.
DUH.
@@Nobod7😂😂😂😂 the ONLY explanation
He's an alien himself!!!
CALL THE CIA INTERROGATE THIS CHILD
The thing that infuriates me about the Bosnian "pyramid" as a Bosnian is the fact that the excavations of the "pyramid" which does not exist is ruining the actual Roman and medieval Bosnian sites which are located on the top of the "pyramid". If Osmanagić actually cared about his own country's history, he would have promoted those sites, and not manufacture a pseudo-scientific "finding" to gullible people for his own benefit.
That's what happened during the expedition to find Troy. Tore through centuries of history to find the 'prize.'
Imagine if they used that funding to bring in serious archaeologists. The foundation can have their tourist trap, they could use this funding legitimately. "We found another artifact, and after studying and dating it, it was determined to be of Roman origin. It now has been donated to the national history museum along with a sizeable cash donation to preserve our history."
They are so close to doing the right thing here, but instead, greed.
You could say it's driving you...
googlede *bonkers*
Bosna je #1🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦 ŠTA JE STABILNA VLADA KOJI KURAC!??!?!?!?
KORUPCIJA JE NORMALAN DIO VLADE 🇧🇦🇧🇦🇧🇦
I think my brain rotted away a little and im only like 40 minutes into the video
Part two when? :(
Milo got so deep into the debunking rabbit hole, he discovered a new family member. That's insane.