Has Keir Starmer suffered from the Gaza vote? | LBC analysis
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Senior Labour figures have acknowledged that the party’s stance on Gaza cost it seats in Thursday’s election, with four MPs unexpectedly losing to pro-Palestinian independents.
Health Secretary Wes Streeting admitted the party had been affected by its position on the Middle East crisis, narrowly retaining his Ilford North seat by just 528 votes. Streeting noted that Gaza had been a significant issue for Labour across the country.
John McTernan, a former adviser to Tony Blair, cautioned the party against ignoring the message sent by parts of its core vote.
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It's not a Muslim thing. Gaza exposed the cruelty and viciousness of the ruling classes. It shattered the belief that our leaders sincerely care about human rights .
You can't argue that sectarianism isn't creeping into politics. This isn't just Gaza.
Spot on mate. Gaza exposed many.
The fact that both main parties totally ignored the Gaza issue for which thousands of people have used their precious weekends to show solidarity with the Palestinian people in their hours of need, tell the British people something is fundamentally wrong with our ruling class. Neither Tories or Labour can get away with that.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
It's fair to say the vast majority of people in every country vote on domestic issues and not foreign affairs. It wasn't ignored as it was in the manifestos but it was a small point in comparison to the cost of living
People in Israel aren't going to be considering the UK when they elect their next government are they?
Not that the UK government doesn’t care, but Gaza/Israel stopped being Britain’s concern since 1948 with the end of the British mandate
If your bothered about a Gaza vote we are already lost …..
@MWalker-r9c what billions does the uk send to Israel? Proof?? By the way.. your user reported.
I have always voted Labour and I didn't vote this time because of Starmer.
If starmer had supported the rights of the Palestinians when it mattered he would of got a much bigger victory then he has.
Yes but if he supported Palestine, he would have been ostracised long before he could get the job. Look at what happened to Corbyn. He would have been called an anti Semite from day 1. There are no more real Palestine supporters left in the labour party.
When it comes to Foreign Policy the UK relies from cues from the US. They say jump, the UK asks how high !
Starmer supports genocida in gaza his not much better than sunak
War you mean
That only the brainwashed and terrorist sympathisers seem to care about.
Hamas still have hostages
Maybe it’s just because Israel is an ally while Hamas is the enemy
Really? On the basis of (checks notes] one entire day…🤪
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Not our problem stop pretending it is!
Dr Shola as always, speaking with great passion and knowledge, her 4 immediate actions for Starmer are exactly what is needed.
FINALLY! Someone speaking the truth. 💯💯💯 I am with every word this woman utters. Her passion is second to none.
This guest was awesome, so refreshing to hear the unvarnished truth spoken so passionately and eloquently, and her analysis was sharper than a tack.
Starmer saying that it was ‘Israel’s right’ to cut off power, food and water to Gaza really showed his true colours
I admire the fact that Starmer is unbiased and does not bend over backwards for Islamist interests in the UK.
She should have her own radio show!
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@@robinbatman7405 No it did not, that debate debunked the Zionist Propaganda!
I'm from Bethnal green and it's sad Rushanara is still our MP
She lost 70% of her votes but the opposition was split so she won by a small majority from the second largest in the country
During the campaign not a single flyer had her face on it and they misspelt her name.
It was simply 'vote labour'
She lost 40%
The problem is look who their partners are
Brilliant.about time the media gaslighting re starmer was called out
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
It need not be a political headache for Labour. It’s quite simple. They just need to take a humane position and act on it.
They just need to stop talking about it. He needs to concentrate on the UK. Let them get on with it themselves in Israel/Gaza. How many more decades do they need to sort themselves out? Just bored of hearing about it now...
Well said lady truth has been said well done
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@@robinbatman7405no, you should learn from her instead. cakap sahaja
Gaza is a major issue of humanity and freedom from oppression. We also shouldn't supply arms to Isreal
Hamas is major issue of humanity, freedoms, violence and oppression.
What about Ukraine? Or is it only Jews you don’t like.
So they start a war and then complain.
@@lestrem11 whataboutism, the last resort of someone with no argument
@@robinbatman7405 I watched October7th, child. You should watch the video’s taken by Hamas as they laughed executing children and you might learn something.👍
Dr. Shola was so on point!
I think it's understandable to give the benefit of the doubt if it had been just that one doubling down on the notion of Israel's absolute right to do anything in retaliation. I don't hold Frei in any high regard so I'm not surprised at his reaction.
I do think it is important to factor in other occasions. He also had the same reaction during an interview on channel 5 that took place 8 months ago. Asked twice again and explicitly with regards to deprivation of food, water, and electricity. Keir's response again being to tout Israel's absolute right. So that's a notch against him just dazed in his reaction.
That is not Keir's biggest sin in regards to his actions surrounding the situation in Gaza. The biggest sin for me is his abuse of power to have the "speaker of the commons", Lindsay Hoyle, to force a motion from Labour on ceasefire through, despite it being the day for the SNP to do so.
I'm all for casting aside traditions and rules when they're archaic and useless, but to hold the veneer of decency and to abuse power in that manner, it shows that Starmer just wants power. He doesn't hold any convictions for his position on the matter but just goes where he feels the money outweighs public perception.
Labour didn't win this election, the Tories lost it. Labour secured less votes than they did under Corbyn. There was a depressed overall turnout because Starmer wasn't giving people something to vote for, he was just the historically acceptable candidate to vote for so the Tories don't get into power again
100% agreed 👍
Of course labour won the election that. Is why he is PM
What makes me laugh, is the bitter Tories saying there is no difference between the Labour Party and the Conservative Party, if they really thought that why are they walking about with a face that wouldn’t look out of place for a Grand National runner?
They aren't bright.... there's no difference red tory, blue story
I love this woman!!! She is amazing!!
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@@robinbatman7405 I don’t need to watch a debate to white wash the fact that the majority of the 50,000 killed in the open air prison that is Gaza was children
She’s so well spoken and brave!!
She's neither one.
Shona was absolutely brilliant! Eloquent and passionate, I wish she was in charge!
For the 🇬🇧 Colonialism was NEVER a temporary state it's a PERMANENT condition.
I changed the way I voted due to Gaza. I'm sure many decent citizens would have done the same.
Did the Gaza situation make a big impact on your vote or were you on the fence originally and it made a smaller impact?
@@DonKilkenny I was a life-long Labour supporter but went off Keir Starmer when he said it was OK to cut off water and power in Gaza. He was a human rights lawyer so knew that was a war crime. He changed his mind later, but only after £30K innocent civilians had been killed.
Me too, I have a labour MP was 100% sure they were going to win if it had been touch and go I might have had to bite my tongue on the grounds the tories are worse. Anyhoo voted for the independent, she came within a whisker of winning and unseating a Starmer ally.
@@Fran1963UKdon't bite the hand that feeds you
Look at his previous comments.Hes a Bangladeshi.Ofc he'll say this@@happydays6291
We can all be 'mindful' while thousands of people including children are dying every day
Well said Dr Shola 👏🏼Thank you for speaking up loud and clear ❤
I agree totally with her commentary. I'm not muslim but I voted against my Labour MP because he abstained from the bill calling for a ceasefire in Nov 2023.
I DISAGREE totally and I am also not Muslim.
He unconditionally supports Israel. His wife is Jewish and the family is observant. His position will not change.
Tons of Jewish people oppose Israel. Don't conflate Jewish-ness with Zionism
No matter how many bodies in Palestine? How many dead wives, husbands, children?
Glad to hear it.
Labor has lied through the Gaza situation. The law is the law.
What is her name again?she is brilliant
Her name is Dr Shola Mos-shogbamimu. Her name may be forgettable but she certainly isn't.
Thank you Matthew for not talking over her
I think Matthew is more forgivong than some of us.
NO Vote for Labour. They took us for granted. Never Ever Vote for Labour until their leader is like Jeremy corbyn.
Yes vote for Labour. Now that Jeremy Corbyn is gone, I am thrilled with Labour.
His wife is jewish and he is raising his children jewish. I dont think it will go well for him if he doesnt change is stance towards israel.
That really does explain a lot as to why he values Palestinian life less equal to Israeli.
He can’t change his stance, he’s accepted money 💰 from the lobby
Ed miliband is Jewish.
@@liveyourbestlifetoday5329
So when you disagree with others views and decisions, you think it’s because of financial gain? Keep on believing that.
@@liveyourbestlifetoday5329
He was having a laugh with Zalensky
It doesn't matter if the new Labour government is "the most Working Class in British history" if they don't show any concern or support for the Palestinian Dying Class because of sheer political expedience.
Do you agree that Corbyn was an anti-Semite or do you believe that the Tory Client media conspired to manufacture the perception that he was? I have hoped that Starmer's stance was to prevent the same thing happening to him. We will see.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@acrodave. The voters weren’t asked to decide the issue of Palestine. It wasn’t on the Ballot paper.
Was the election for the Palestine region or for the United Kingdom?
Why should they be concerned? It’s not their problem anymore
@@code6499England gave the Palestine away with no regard for the Palestinians. England then basically walked away. This mess is our business. If our politicians can be so ruthless as to not care over plea's for humanity, that is something that sooner or later will filter down to us. If life comes ao cheap to them, yours has little value.
We have to think of our “Special Relationship” with the US. Social media has shown and exposed what US and Brits have been supporting and promoting since the late 1940s.
Well done on platforming this lady, I'm guessing it won't happen again
Most people got what they didn’t vote for. Labour!
Same as when tories win.
That's why we need PR. And why we will never get it...
I remember when The Matthew Wright Show when Matthew was left wing now not so much, the old Matthew would not defend Starmer’s right wing Labour Party
Kid starver changed his stance? What did he actually do as a result? it was just empty words.The man is a snake.
So sad Streeting won.
Labour have now said they won’t stop the ICC
Well said girl.
Definitely a fascinating lady...
She is 💯 correct ❤
We are doomed, down the toilet we go go go...
Welp, like him or loathe him, Starmer didn't pull the handle.
Keir Starmer will improve the economy. That is what we need most.
Respect for the lady . Mathew thanks for bringing her on.
Also f Mathew for his diminishing the first 6 months
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@@robinbatman7405 🤣🤣💀💀
@@Connor787-n7d 🤣🤣💀💀
Hamas is to Blame. There was a full ceasefire before October 7. If you don't want a war ... Don't start a war!!!
Dr. Shola was absolutely correct.
Gr8 lady - love her
Galloway's election earlier in the year and failure to return doesn't really say much of anything.
The fact is that he's a very effective campaigner for by-elections, and making himself an immediate protest vote. But when it comes time for a general election and the turnout increases, he's typically left wanting. As this is the fifth straight general election he's lost at since 2010.
This woman is phenomenal. If Keir Starmer wants to show a change in his view, follow the 4 steps the Doctor pointed out
Give Palestine back to the Palestinians; don't make them have to take it away
There is no Palestine.
@@JazzATrain Bull*****
Go girl!!!
“You know what Kier Starmer needs to do?” Aye no listen to you
Farage was given more media coverage whereas Galloway was not; this is why Farage won, so many seats & Galloway lost
lol, Reform at the start of the campaign were polling around 10%, then after campaigning 15%ish stood in 630 seats or so while Workers party stood in 100-150 got less than 1% overall.
This woman is all over it! Facts! 💯🇵🇸✊🏿
Starmer will not last long
Nigel is coming 🇬🇧
@@camo68Nigel took 8 turns to come to parliament
@abhinandanbanerjee5471 but still was almost single-handedly responsible for the country leaving the EU. Most influential UK politician since Blair. All without being in parliament. Are you suggesting he'll now be less effective because he is an MP??
@@camo68
nigel is a work shy tory.
Starmer will last 9 and a half years.
Thank you what you said the truth the hall truth
Keir Starmer will do none of the things the Dr says.
Would we do anything Israel told us to do? Lebanon calling, pick up the phone.
Will it still be an issue at the next election? He has a large enough majority to ignore a lot of fringe groups, and I’m not sure they will vote against unrelated policies. Will they vote against electoral reform, or education reform, or feeding kids? I doubt it.
He will lose streeting with the independent having more time to organise, he will lose Birmingham completely with the independents actuallong uniting, he will lose inner London with the independents not splitting the vote. That's not marginal, plenty of majorities decimated, he must listen to the voters if he wants to stay in.
and there's a growing Green campaign in towns with a younger population, like Liverpool and Sheffield
I can't see why Starmer and Labour aren't moving to PR now on their terms, rather than wait to be squeezed!
@@markwelch3564 the greens are a bit too dogmatically anti nuclear to get too popular. Look at the mess Germany made when they shut all their plants. I worry because if you are anti science on one issue, it tends to make you anti science on all.
Free Palestine. End U.K. support for Israel
This is a minute of life I'll never get back.
Love this woman
You should not tolerate this kind of person in parliament if I Gaza who started think about it
Think you are getting confused
Full video please
Gaza is NOT our business.
The British government has made it its business
And your a troll Jazz so your opinion does not matter.
@@Yahoo273 Hamas is to Blame. There was a full ceasefire before October 7. If you don't want a war ... Don't start a war!!!
Now Mr Starmer is PM we will soon know if he has really changed his position....
quick answer, No. his opinion has already been bought and paid for.
He's already talking about war and considering it
Yes the Palestine lobby did hurt the Labour MP's here in Bradford (re-elected but with lower vote share) with Independants and Workers Party in some wards standing, OK I understand and applaud protest voting. However all 3 of Bradfords Labour MP's went against the Party 3 line whip to vote for the SNP motion for a Ceasefire, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face and risking a Reform Plc candidate being elected.
Congratulations on voting for independents, all you're gonna do is make your area worse.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
Starver needs to decide. He’s pledged allegiance to Isrel and there’s are also many others, especially, the front bench.
While we hear Starver condemning what’s happening in Ukraine, he has to show the same pain and condemnation. Starver can’t do too much re standing up for Gaza because he pledged allegiance to nutyoo. Starver and Sunak intervening and interfering in ICC law to help nutyoo.
This lady is so right.
Starmer will be in for the long run.First the NHS the doctors in hospitals need a decent financial deal.
Ashworth losing his seat probably saved Starmer having to quietly parking him later on. Just one of the 'legacy' losers that Labour will do better without.
I feel sorry for the guy as a guy. How many years in opposition and your party finally gets in and now you lose your seat! Gotta hurt
He backstabbed Corbyn. Recall the audio from several years ago. He should've been rewarded for that. But Labour's corruption out did itself.
@@Jonnyonthespot123 he was Starmer's right hand man and parroting Starmer's words and underestimated Leicester South, Leicester East also got rid of Labour and that's like India over there
Leicester East was the most surprising and interesting though. They elected a conservative MP, that was the only conservative gain in the area. Even though it is extremely diverse area. With a large Muslim/Hindu population @@RAGSTAluvsDA90z
@@Jonnyonthespot123I think it's hilarious 😂
At least there are people with conscious in the UK
It's why I stopped my membership as a card carrying Labour voter and didn't vote for them this GE.
Go Greens 💚
Ps. I'm in a Labour strong hold so I knew i could vote according to my values.
a very eloquent guest
George Galloway - Reform 😂😂😂
U should know at Galloway's scenario another candidate on pro-palestine was on the same ballot/ constituency and ate his comfortable victory
Mathew Wright is underrated
80% of the country did not vote for this Red Tory party, let that sink in for a while
Because they didn't go to vote. 🤷
Then stop, Before becoming a UK MP, one must swear loyalty to the Israeli lobby above all else.
That’s true
It just shows how important the decades old Palestinian situation is and has always been especially to those on the left. The Palestinians have been subjugated, dispossessed, tortured, and killed by the IDF long before Oct 7. Notwithstanding the attack by Hamas on that day, it doesn't surprise me that many votes were lost because of Keir Starmer's initial stance on Gaza which one would normally associate with the Tories. I suspect that Starmer began to change his position once he got wind of where Biden was going on this. I can't help but feel that when it comes down to it Starmer lacks a kind of moral courage, unable to speak what he really thinks but is guided by the US policy, which makes me fear he may be easily bought.
The Palestinian situation is not important to me at all. In fact I'm bored 💩less of hearing about it. Everybody in the UK should be focusing on UK issues...
If slavery made countries rich then why isn't Africa or Muslim nations not rich.
Because they didn't enslave people continously for 400 years and trade them all over the world.
Well if he didn't listen to the movement before, he won't when it does nothing but call him names.
A single issue protest vote is the stupidest thing in a General election. Most that enter Parliament this way don't last long, such as George Galloway. When folk want their bins emptied and potholes filled, the last thing they want in response from their MP is a rant about Gaza from a religious extremist.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
@robcarrol. Yes. 100%. You said it better than I ever could.
Lol like single issue immigration voters aren't the majority of reforms support
I don't know the Birmingham independents so well, but I know tbe North London independents also had strong stances on the NHS and other public services. Even if Starmer finds the best settlement for Gaza that is conceivably possible, the campaign is organised and ready to go again on the NHS and public services 🙂
@@markwelch3564 I certainly know who I'd rather have running the NHS. Who was the north London campaign aimed at then, tory govt or Labour in opposition?
Wright is an awful biased broadcaster
I agree completely
Great on the Gaza ceasefire MPs! Sad to see Galloways thin loss to Farage.
labour put everything into Rochdale. Partially because they knew they didn't really have to do much elsewhere because of Tories demise and reform taking mostly Tory votes
Which UK regional accent is this?
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
Call her out Mathew
Nope it doesn’t matter, and he shouldn’t waste a minute of legislative and parliament time on these Gaza before British people who never turned up for him.
Starmer called for a ceasefire on the 18th February. Of I remember correctly, he actually called for it, before then, in Parliament. Probably at PMQ'S.
I'm glad that Palestinians have a voice in our parliament. As long as they realise that the MPs know that can't be the only thing they should focus on.
Then, How about stopping, Before becoming a UK MP, one must swear loyalty to the Israeli lobby above all else.
They don't have a voice with Ganas that's for sure.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu needs to Watch the Anti-Zionism and Antisemitism 2024 Munk Debate, this issue is covered in detail and debunks and dismantles her Propaganda, she may learn something!
Starmergeddon has arrived.
Led by the Starmerssist
Starmer was despised by his staff as Boss of CPS. Lots of lawyers got PTSD. Lots of criminals got off e.g. Jimmy Savile & the groom gangs in 50 Labour run areas (as per Dan Hodges & Charli Peters scoops).
Total nonsense
Most british people have more important things to worry about
Religion is creeping into politics. You are deluded if yiu can't see this.
When was religion ever not into politics????
The political class ignored the Gaza holocaust showing their disdain to humanity
That small group represents the future of this country. It will only get stronger. Religious sectarianism is the future. Praise be to Allah 🇬🇧
Starmer has to be in support of Israel, if he wants the support of the lobby.
Starmer has to be in support of Israel, if he wants to be logical, ethical and intelligent.
Yes love this woman go on queen ❤