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Respect for Jeremy keeping up fight even at this age 👏🏻
he should have fought against these bogus antisemitism accusations and ripped the media a new one ... also, a clear stance against or for brexit should have been his move back then...
now we got our brexit boy Nigel laughing again while the poor r getting more desperate...
@@larsbeeYou can’t blame that on Corbyn! Even his opponents admitted he was a zealous campaigner. He did more than anyone to try and stop Brexit.
He just called reform "far right" 😂😂 what a pathetic weak man!
@@larsbee We need to campaign for serious media reform as the tabloids were a huge part of the campaign to discredit Jeremy Corbyn.
@@hanneslundin346 also a certain L Group made sure they ‘toppled’ him 😠
Starmers shrivelled heart lies with Davos. God help us all.
Davos? World Economic Forum? ......So?? WEF is a very important institution who look at the redistribuiton of wealth to buld a fairer world, and end the rampant late stage capitalism which has led to the richest countries in the world having rampant poverty amoungst its citizens..... WEF has been demonized by late stage capitalists, who want to keep their SPARE half billion in an offshore account, and dont care about 150,000 homeless children living in poverty (thats in the UK alone) You hate WEF because Billionaires have told you to hate WEF and convinced you with cherry picked sound bites and buzzwords.
Most Western nations are dividing between the liberals and the far right. Just like GOPers, English ultra conservatives have an incredible tolerance for masochism
Shame the ‘liberals’ can’t stand up for real left wing policies then that meet the needs of working people
There is no such thing as far right it's a made up term to silence descent
A very experienced and fair politician
Corbyn is an anti-Semite. He once liked a picture of a mural on social media that had horrendously anti-Semitic caricatures on it and called Hamas his "friends."
far right??
Mans an idiot
More I listen to him the more I like him
he talks sense. They agreed with what he said after when Boris won. Boris told untruths. Too late then.
When you don't know what "far-right" is...
The far right isn't even a thing in the UK.
We have the uniparty of Tories and Conservatives who are neither left or right, they are EU establishment.
Reform are the only right wing party in the UK and they are right of centre.
Reform are what the conservatives were 30yrs ago...
@@TheMactabanoye Exactly
@@TheMactabanoye Reform right of centre? Redic.
@@TheMactabanoye Definitely NOT.
If that's centre right I'd hate to think what far right is. People are a tad naive.
Jeremy was the greatest loss in 2019 for the ordinary British public 😢
We wouldn't have been in such a mess.
NHS, cost of living, covid party scandal, employment, high rates of borrowing ...
@@massabmiharbi7931 never forget though, he was the one who gave Boris that victory. He decided to support his call for a general election when polls indicated a loss. Ultimately he is responsible for giving us a Boris Johnson Government because his own ego couldn't take it and let Caroline Lucas be the PM in a unity government.
No, we'd be in an even worse mess if Corbyn became Prime Minister
@@christopherkerr1693 if you are super rich then you are in a big mess
Cabal made sure he got no power? Cabal have a world agenda. Its the last election watch this space as earth is ascending.
@@christopherkerr1693HOW could the country have got worse under JC.?? ur claim is fantastical,/ deluded..got any facts to bak up such a claim ? u must love raw sewage
God Bless You Live Long Jeremy Your voice millions people voice 🙏 Your good Human being ❤️ 🙏🙏
So much respect for Jeremy. He’s always spot on. Travesty the UK oligarchy removed him, but not surprising. Starmer is their minion.
Lowest mandate? They have a 170 seat majority 😂
@@matt01506 no they wouldn't, it would still be the Tories who beat reform with votes cast
@@matt01506Well they weren't able to. Thank goodness for that.
Tell us again conservatives how great Brexit is going to be???
corbyn should have fought against these bogus antisemitism accusations and ripped the media a new one ... also, a clear stance against or for brexit should have been his move back then...
now we got our brexit boy Nigel laughing again while the poor r getting more desperate...
@@larsbee The poor are now worse off cause of Brexit especially since small businesses who were destroyed by Brexit! The fact that he's a fascist Nazi is just the cherry on top!
@@larsbee They were not bogus they were real.
@@kissfan6321if they were real I doubt he would’ve been able to get so many votes in his constituency
@@CircumcisedUnicorn He got them because idiots vote for idiots.
No party should be able to form a government with 35% of the vote, it's just not democratic.
This is partially because the UK actually has more than 2 parties of significance. Even if the voting system was reformed to reflect the popular vote more directly, let's be honest with ourselves, parties would change their strategy accordingly anyway.
Yes it is. Trump had fewer votes than Clinton. That’s the system. Not a fair one but definitely democric
I'll bet the Reform voters old enough to remember Thatcher loved it when she got a landslide on 38%.
What a ridiculous thing to say. We live in a country with too many political parties to enable any winning party to command more than around 40-45% of the vote. Labour won over 400 seats, that's 400+ constituencies they got more votes than anyone else. If that's not a mandate to govern then I don't know what is
I am a member of Reform and applying to be a candidate. There is no way I am far right and there is no way Reform activists I have met are far right…
That's what someone on the far right would say...
@@matt01506 well it literally is 😂
@@aaronaaronson7600that's what someone on the far left would say...
Won't fit in then that well I would say!
@@iainmclaughlan1557 Just look at their leaders. That will tell you everything.
Mr Corbyn is spot on.
Apart from the far right jibe
he should have fought against these bogus antisemitism accusations and ripped the media a new one ... also, a clear stance against or for brexit should have been his move back then...
now we got our brexit boy Nigel laughing again while the poor r getting more desperate...
Not bogus
He referred to Hamas as friends
@@paultoseland9524no he didn’t, and even if he did support armed Palestinian resistance that would make him an antizionist non an antisemite. But that’s ignoring the pretty obvious fact that HE DIDN’T
@@fedsavi you do realise they are practically the same?
Anti Zion means you are against a Jewish homeland
@@paultoseland9524 it’d be worse if he referred to israhell as his friends as they are the real terrorists
@@fedsaviwell said.100% facts.❤❤❤JC a decent man, a lifelong anti racist. both the 2017 & 2019 party manifesto 's were amazing,& would have transformed & united the country..any working ( class) people not voting for him ,& worse ; those same people voting tory ,voting boris & voting brexit were/ are social climbers/ TRAITORS..working pple should NEVER VOTE RIGHT WING : TORY / FAR RIGHT REFORM.
God Bless Jeremy Corbyn.
There is no God.
Love this man. He needs to be cherished always ❤❤❤❤
I wish Jeremy win. I highly doubted that keir starmer would do anything about Gaza
He will do something. But not for the Palestinian. For the oppressor.
@@ahmadyusof2480 that's what I suspected too
This is uk not palestine
@@Wishmaster787 yeah but UK is complicit in the war in Palestine
Don't you want a worry about your own country like the things that happening in your country for the future of this country?If a politician is more concerned about overseas issues and your concern more about them.Things then that's not what you should be voting for and that's not what you should want from mp mostly
Political analysis from Corbyn is rich considering he presided over a massive loss for Labour. I suppose if you cannot win, you must criticize.
The UK media and big business made sure Jeremy Corbyn was smear big time well there really happy now they got their creepy Starmer in charge🇬🇧🧐
As a Dutch Somali, raised in London, Jeremy Corbyn is by far the best representative of the majorities best aspects in the UK ❤️ heart of gold, intelligence and loyalty to a nation that threw him to the wolf’s.
That is true of him. He has a good heart. Really is a man for the people.
💯👍
He would not defend our country on a nuclear war.
@@dartskipper3170 HOW can you defend the country once a nuclear war has started?? 😏😏
He's a bleeding heart cockroach
If you consider Reform to be far right then it’s only fair to consider Corbyn far left.
Sounds sensible.
Unlike of course when he was leader where loads of labour voters didn't vote.
When Corbyn was leader in the 2019 election, the voter turnout was higher. Corbyn's Labour got 10.27 million votes in 2019. Starmer's Labour got 9.73 million votes in 2024 - half a million less.
@@theowhite so? He still lost the election not because the Tory's increased their voters but because fewer ended up voting for Labour. In an election he decided to call because his ego couldn't take that he wouldn't be the PM of a unity government. He spitefully allowed Boris to call the election and then ran a campaign that gave Labour the worst result. Doesn't matter how many people voted for him, what counts in this system, as stupid as it is, are the seats not the votes.
@kaysi6605 that's called "cope". Fact is you cannot stand it that Corbyn is more popular than Starmer.
@@kaysi6605 you might well be right, it's just not immediately obvious to me that this is the case. Corbyn's Labour got almost a million more votes and a higher vote percentage than Milliband's Labour did in the previous election in 2015, indicating that there were not loads of Labour voters who didn't vote. The voter turnout was also slightly higher in 2019 (67.3% vs 66.2%).
Since I don't understand it, could you explain the evidence for your view? Thanks
@@theowhite In a first-past-the-post system, how many people vote for you is meaningless if you can't win many seats. Case in point, Reform won 5 seats with 4 million votes, while the Lib Dems won 79 with 3.7. Why? Because they had the majority needed in 79 constituencies, while Reform had a lot of votes in loads of constituencies.
In 2019, many people voted for Labour, returning Labour MPs with massive majorities, but in our electoral system, any vote that increases your majority after you win in one constituency is essentially wasted, as it doesn't help you gain more power.
Corbyn lost many safe Labour seats because more centrist Labour voters stayed home as they were not convinced by him. While his vote share was high, it wasn't in the right places, and that is how you win an election in this country.
As long as we have a first-past-the-post system, the share of votes will never matter, only seats. That is wrong, but I deal with what is, not what I prefer to be. I will campaign for a better voting system, but until then, it is idiotic to harp on about the vote share when our electoral system doesn't care.
Also, you have to consider tactical voting. I voted for Labour this election, but due to where I live, my actual vote went to the Lib Dem, as the only option I have is to help avoid getting a Tory elected. So, while I voted for a Labour government, my vote didn't count toward the vote share.
The Labour vote didn't go down, it actually went up around 2%
1.6% from the last general election. The country as a whole is not in favour of a Labour government.
When you’re so far left of centre, even centrist or right of centre appears far far away.
Best man 👍🏻
Far right. Ha ha ha ha ha.
The Conservative vote didn't collapse, it split.
Jeremy Corbin speaks a lot of sense concerning the election numbers imo
by your political position mr Corbyn, Reform are far right...
Many of the 4 million voters had never voted before in their lives.
How do you know? 🤡
as if the uk isn't screwed up enough already. what a waste of a country.
Not often I agree with him....
At last something he says that I agree with
Admitting you're wrong about most things is brave. Well done.
We want you to be a Leader of Labour party please
God no, I actually want the labour party to be electable
@@aaronaaronson7600Labour got less votes under Starmer then Corbyn in 2019.
Incredible to hear someone who presented a truly far left manifesto trying to slur Farage with the expression 'far right'.
@@shinkansenshinkansend8316Well if it is true say it. Why lie?
By the way not a slur. Look at his previous form.
see the thing is that far left is actually a complement tho.
also, I feel like a party that has people saying that "refugees should be used as target practice" in it should probably be considered far right.
@@onestupidboi9320Quite right.
@@onestupidboi9320By the way only bad people would say a thing like that. Outrageously bad thing to say.
I stand with Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸
I stand with Israel
You stand by their side? What? Next to them? How about you go help them then?
@@itsagoal182 and you go and stand with hamas the terroirists that literally incited all this destruction
@@supremeworld87 shitrael
🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
He’s right. First time in 40 years I decided my vote was meaningless and didn’t vote, all offers equally as bad as each other.
The thing about the British far right, Reform voters, is that they are very uncomfortable being identified as far right because of the shame their grandparents would rightly have for them. So they deny it and tell you they aren’t. They want to lionise their granddad while supporting the ideology he risked his life fighting against.
For evidence see this comment thread. They are too cowardly to admit their beliefs and that they would’ve fought against their own granddad.
Say it with your chests. Have a shred of courage.
It’s a nice story that you spun up and I’m sure you wholeheartedly believe it, but they aren’t “far-right” for wanting to end mass migration among other desperately needed reforms… lol.
Every soldier in World War Two would despair if they saw the he state your country was in now, none of them want their nation to be Muslim
@@Mrgaming3424194% of the the country DO NOT identify as Muslim. The 6% that do mostly will not even practice their beliefs, I think we are far from becoming a Muslim country. I’m not sure what your fear is here…
No , they won’t. It’s the retaliation people like you would have for them. It’s a betrayal of British values that Labor presents.
Ok then please state what reform policies are actually far right?
Very easy to strawman people and say far right. Cowards say this and run.
Specially state their policies and what is far right about them?
They are not far right, magic grandpa!
Hard left Jeremy opining on who's in the right what colour is the sky on the planet this guy lives
Big respect Jeremy its not about right nor left its about love .
This is why he didn’t make it as a pm because if you what
To the best for your country so it’s safe for your grandchildren for the future you are rascis
People didn't vote for Labour to win they voted for the tories to lose.
Don't trust Nigel MIRAGE
Don't trust Farage Tice or the others.
Good thinking.
"Far" right? We don't have a far right.
No Farage just an awol MP. Well most of the time like he did previously when he was an MEP.😂
Only the Reform lot.
@@janetmalcolm6191 so if they are far right, what does the plain old "right" look like?
@@dungareesareforfools Plain old Tories if course!
@@dungareesareforfools Plain old Tories of course. Lol.
Love you Mr Corbyn. Come to Canada as we need you.
Let's also point out the impact of tactical voting, hence the huge increase in Lib Dem MPs. Stopping the Tories was the priority for many.
How did you get on in the General Election Jeremy when you were Labour leader..
Err he got 12.8 m in 2017 and 10.3m in 2019 compared Labours 9.6m this time shows how corrupt and unrepresentative the FPTP voting system is.
Only Atlee and Wilson have done better in terms of popular vote as Labour leader.
Not bad while fighting the shower of s*** that is the PLP.
Nobody complained about that when Alex got 44%.
Reform "far right".....oh come on Jeremy! I would expect better from you
He is correct. Education is best for some.
In 2015 Ukip got 3.8million votes... in 2024 Reform got 4 million votes.... This isnt the huge growth the media are pushing, The far right just moved from Ukip to Reform, and just a handful of Tory voters switched over. Lots of Tory votes went to Lib Dem, Green, and independants, some more moderate conservatives moved to Labour (who are basically moderate conservatives now)
I love Jeremy Corbyn !
Idealisum of governments is draconian.
People have had enough of being told what they can or connot do. Especially from lesser than men n women. What makes them lesser than is they seek to control others which is not natural. No good man or woman seeks to control others. Humanity wants to become sovereign. We need true teachings such as self love, emotional intelligence, spiritual intelligence and self empowerment.
The Labour vote was lost because of Gazza and Reform, however it's still better than the mess Corbyn left the Labour Party in
The mandate is high as labour has a huge majority .
Bitter and twisted doesn't come close
Most of the conservatives voted labour, not Reform. And since when is reform far right?
Pleez! Look further. Some need to wake up.
Far left politician
Far right vote !!!!!!! Don’t tell the people how to think like ALL YOU POLITICIANS DO
Didnt get many votes when you were incharge , wonder why
got more than starmer...
I disagree, I simply think this is the reverse of the Labour/SDP split. This time round, tactical voting has resulted in 480 seats going to centre/left parties. And I do think the majority of the people are rather happy and relieved some adults are in charge of the Treasury.
corbyn has good intentions but attacking labour is wrong of him. if he had won this majority as leader, he will not be saying this
4 million voters have far right views
Does that mean they cant have a view?
Corbyn is extreme Far-Left
@@rebelmc7925No it means it ain't the right view to have.
@@janetmalcolm6191 so they dont have the right to their own views. Facism runs deep through your veins Janet. You cant deny it. I respect everyones views
@@rebelmc7925 Nothing Fascist about me. My father fought against it. He would think badly of Reform. As so do I.
I’ve said this to many Labour voters and the ones I’ve spoken to seem not to believe this fact 😂 they believe it was a mass turnout.
I wouldn’t say Farage or his voters are far right, but I would say people want some real opposition within parliament to challenge the two other parties which are interchangeable and pretend to debate each other whilst quietly adopting each others policies.
The progressive parties have a mandate of over 50% whereas the right wing parties polled less than 40% - in almost any voting system the progressives would have won the right to govern.
Progressive or regressive...
What progressive parties?
People should have listened to Jeremy in 2019 .
God.
We look like scared animals running from one side of the political spectrum to the other, and then back again.
The traitor Corbyn
This is why we need proportional representation.
I disagree vehemently with Reform. Reform would have benefitted hugely if the last election was under proportional representation.
Though Reform would have benefitted and though I disagree with them it is patent that our elections are grossly unfair, unrepresentative and stifle change.
I dont get it.. the number of MP's count in the house of commons..doesn't matter how many votes reform got, they still have only 6MP's
Illegal immigration ? Too scared to mention it Jeremy ?
Far-right 😂😂😂😂😂
Not funny. Just sad.
I like corbyn and farage. What does that make me? A far right and leftist. The political divide is utterly ridiculous. We should simply ignore it at this point. It's establishment vs anti establishment. That's all there is.
Far left....commi
Reform far right 🤔, just as you are far left and helped to destroy the Labour Party 😠
It’s not the lowest, most elections in the uk only have a mandate of about 1/3 simply due to the FPTP system!
Far right?? get a grip man !!!!
Well, Jeremy, that is how the British system works. You better had learnt that lesson before, maybe you would have had the chance to win. But you did not - you had your chance and spoilt it badly.
That is exactly why we need proportional representation. The Danes do it successfully, so there are no excuses!!
He should be the UK PM. Should be there next to RFK jr. Wouldnt that be great.
“Far-right” … give it a rest. There’s nothing “far-right” about Reform. They’re literally the voice of the people, as has been proven already in parliament. And if you’re still not convinced, go and actually read their contract, sorry, “manifesto”.
Jeremy is correct. Reform are far right.
Plus not everything is great in their Manifesto. An American style health service? That will be great won't it! Farage got money he can afford that. Clacton most likely won't. Some should look further into things.
While I agree with Corbyn on a lot of things he is wrong here. We don’t measure a mandate by popular vote share, we measure it by the number of seats. Like it or loathe it, that’s our system currently.
He has a point there a 1% vote difference would make labour lose a lot of their seats, so they have to tread very carefully otherwise they will be squashed in their next election.
They could reform the electoral system though and most of their worries disappear
You Made an Overview of So Many Cliche of Typical UK People I expected to See Sir. Atkinson...
Far left Corbyn speaking
He sounds so disappointed 😂
That's right Jeremy. Keep it simple. This time.
But I voted Lib Dem to ensure the Tory MP didn’t get in because I wanted a Labour government. I think many many people did the same
What a world, where you vote one party to ensure another wins and yet another loses
@@thezeroneliteThat’s the world we’ve been in for 200 years. The fact that people want to bring a knife to a gun fight by needlessly splitting the left wing vote on the advice of idiots like Owen Jones is what is most concerning. However, as the other comment correctly identified tactical voting among Lib Dem voters in marginal seats was very impressive and has yielded their best ever result.
You mean a low mandate to dictate as usual Jeremy because govern isn't a a word I'd say describes " represent"
I voted Reform, and I know many others that did, none of us are far right, fascists or racists as the the lefties like to make out. We just want our country to stay British, and by British I mean with British values and customs, it doesn't matter if you're white, black, Asian or whatever! As long as you respect our way of life and our right to live it, in our own country. Stop trying to criminalize being proud to be British, it isn't a crime! It's a privilege! And has for labour, they only won the election because the conservatives are so bad, not because Labour are good.
That word delusional springs to mind. Voting for Reform.A party they have no real clue about it's ideology or anything.
@@janetmalcolm6191 and the other two main parties do?
Admittedly there isn't a good party amongst the lot of them! It's all about who yourself think offer the most to Britain and it's people, I believe labour will make a bigger mess of illegal immigration than the conservatives have, and for me that's by far the biggest issue Britain faces right now. It's a personal choice.
@@janetmalcolm6191it’s funny your all over this comment section showing of your ignorance, how about you just accept that the fact that others have different beliefs to you, we get you love Corbyn we just don’t care…
@@ihaveaproblem5571Grow up and educate yourself. Might help.
@@janetmalcolm6191 how about I come round your house and educate you
Far right my arse
And what on earth has Corbyn ever done apart from protesting about anything that moves?
What is wrong with protesting injustice?
@@oneoflokis Being a serial protester is far easier than having to do anything about the issues we face . Corbyn always takes the easy route and seeks solace in being surrounded by the protest army. And my point stands... he's achieved nothing by following a protest movement.
@999DaveUK Your point does not stand! Our society is undemocratic: therefore, protesting about various issues is all most of us can do a lot of the time! When an opportunity *does* come, once in a blue moon, to vote for a prime minister with genuinely progressive policies, the dogs in the manger in his own party sabotage that, and the media puts in the final nails. 😏
Traitor
"FaR RiGhT" lol
He don’t have a clue about far right I’m fed up of the likes of him saying far right just like the mainstream media calling us all far right of got nothing against a person skin colour corbyn don’t have a clue never liked him does that make me far right No!! It don’t I judge people on merits as I believe it should’ be not on religion or skin colour best people I know some are from the wind rush times lovely people unlike Corbyn w⚓️
I'm a reformist less of the inflammatory talk of far right.. I'm an ordinary person.. The party's that don't do brexit properly will fall.
I agree with Corbyn. I voted Reform
Corbyn's views are sooo opposite to Reform.
Far right 😂 so pathetic
Far fight 😂
Asking for a friend, what is far right???
Anything that isn't communist left 🙄
@@dominicchallis2928 it's impossible to guarantee zero obviously but it's not impossible to have that as a goal post in which the more people leave, the more can come in, the less that leave the less can come. It's also not "cruel to asylum seekers", most asylum seekers here aren't seeking asylum they've come from France, and what about all the homeless people in the U.K isn't it unfair that our national citizens, many of whom are ex military, are being displaced by these people. And if you have done any research on net zero emissions you'll know that's what's really ludicrous. Reform and not far right.
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So explain what attributes the Reform UK has that are "Far Right". And "Right (far or otherwise) in relation to what Standard? A non-Britisher, just curious and just asking.
Yeah, I'm not falling for the bait
If you can’t see it at this point then you just don’t want to.
@rai2423 what you just said is called "Avoidance." I'm taking it that you do NOT know the attributes or what Standard and are operating on emotion instead of facts.
@@jueneturner8331 What am I avoiding? Isn’t this the kettle calling the pot black? You aren’t answering anything yourself. Why don’t you lecture me since you have all the answers 🤷♂️
@@rai2423 still cannot define far right you people are a joke... Call us far right but stand with Muslims.