Cadillac CTS V Sport: A DEEP Technical Dive with Cadillac Chief Engineer David Leone
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2014
- Cadillac’s Chief Engineer, David Leone, takes us on a deep technical review of the 420 HP Twin Turbo Cadillac CTS V Sport - everything from getting more from the 3.6 V6 to the use of specific lightweight materials in construction. This is more than just a tech overview of a car, but the logic of how to build a driver’s car as David explains not just what they did but why they did it . . .
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Criminally underrated car
I LOVE this video. I'm SO glad that an American car company is finally building cars right for a change. I LOVE the way the cars looks, and performs. I showed one to my mom while driver her around the other day. She's a Lincoln fan and when she saw it, she said WOW!! That's a Cadillac?!!! Way to go guys!!!
Way to go mom ✌🏿
The quality lacks.
We own Cadillacs because we want them not because it’s a quality vehicle that will last a long time.
They used to be quality but that has dropped significantly.
Bought the last 2015 CTS Vsport off my dealer's lot at the end of 2015 (it was a demo car). I've owned 5 Cadillacs including the 2003 CTS with the FE3 suspension and summer tires. This new car is a serious hoot to drive. On day 3 of ownership I was out on the Interstate a bit late to a meeting and pushed the accelerator so I'd go a little faster to make up some time. I looked down and I was doing 100 MPH...and the car felt like it was doing 75. The stability of the platform is for real, and the engine power puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
I just discovered the Moto-Man video series a month ago so I'm catching up with the older footage. Keep up the good work, George. Your style reminds me of what Ferris Bueller would be like in middle age (remember the scene of him describing the Ferrari).
+Sevenfeet0 Ferris Bueller? Never heard that one before - but I will take it! Thank you!
That was a great analysis. I had no idea how well engineered the Cadillacs were.
have this generation of CTS VSport and love it...
Should I buy a 2014 CTS V-Sport with 50k on it for 23k??? Seems fast but I didn't get on it and of course was not looking at the boost gauge at all.
I love this brand.. Very interesting information.. Thanks
It really is a stark contrast to what GM has done with Cadillac and Ford has done with Lincoln. This should be a lesson on how to properly reinvent a brand. Great Video.
Just awesome. I really enjoy this show. It adding some suger to my tea. Good job MotoManTV.
I have not seen any Journalist going this far with Engineering Chief of an Auto Company and shooting a video this way. KUDOS and well done Motoman..!! Such a refresher and change from obvious car reviews.
Love this super technical stuff! This is why I love this channel!
Thanks, man - we have more tech films on the production schedule . . .
+MotoManTV I'm a bit late with my comment but .. MotoManTV offers car-lovers what they're looking : useful info.
Grtz guys.
@Marley Adriel hahaha wtf
@@MotoManTV what's the difference between the CTV S and the Chevy SS ?
This is 2018 and I would still take the 2014 in a minute!
Ehhhhh that 2018 is pretty refined though
Motoman, I love this kind of videos. Keeo making them. I am sharing it.
GREATLY appreciate you sharing our episodes . . . it's the highest compliment you can pay us. That said, we would greatly appreciate EVERYONE sharing our episodes - especially within the first 36 hours they are live . . . this small thing makes a HUGE difference for us . . . Thank you!
Love Cadillac!!
Just bought a 2014 vsport premium. Cadillac knocked this one out of the park
Tell me MORE, please. I might pull the trigger on a 2014 VSport with only 50k on it. How do I know if the turbos are both working? Only under full throttle? Or by looking at the boost gauge? I didn't get to properly PUNCH the throttle as my owners during the test run were a tad nervous of me possibly losing control on the highway.
Great show! Cadillac has made a serious machine. Hope you can continue on this theme. Maybe '15 Mustang GT engineering details? thanks. Keep up the great work.
Great Job.. Italians make the coolest cars and dress cloths...GM is lucky to have you on their team...💥
Luv dat car! Especially the coup! Nice video detail.
Good work!
Made a believer out of me. So much that I picked one up. Premium, White Diamond Tri Coat, just a tad over the base price. After 6 months of research, I narrowed it down to the A6 and the VSport. After the test drives and the quotes, it was a no brainer. I have never been happier with any vehicle. Will report back after my first oil change at 7,500 miles.
By the way, great video.
MrUtu888 Hey, great comment. Wondering how’s everything going for you. Congrats on your Cadillac. Any updates on the CTS V-Sport?
Updates?
Yo u alive?
I love these types of videos, showing some of the technical and engineering aspects of new cars. Interesting how Cadillac shed all those pounds on the new CTS.
Although the CTS's .29 drag coefficient is nothing to brag about! My 17 year-old Mercedes E-Class has the exact same .29 coefficient. One would think with computer-aided design, overall improvements in automotive architecture and wind tunnel efficiencies, they could have moved the "coefficient of drag" needle up a bit more?
Amaze.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2016 CTS V Sport, great video, enjoyed it. One question, what's up with that giant rear muffler? Would that not be another place a little more weight could be shed?
great car
As the owner of a Lexus 350 f sport which I love I had to see what all the hype about this car was so I had my friend at Cadillac bring one to my house to drive and all I can say is that after driving this car I was stunned at how good this car was it is what I consider a perfect drivers car I thought cadillac just got lucky tuning this car until I seen this utube clip. I was thinking about the BMW 750 or Audi A8 as my next lease but after driving the Cadillac that won't happen if you drive it you will buy it its that good the people who put this car together should be giving a heck of a raise I can't believe it's a Cadillac. and as far as the Q system is concerned I love it. The Lexus enform system in my GS. is no picnic either. My next car guess. You guessed right!.
Right now I have a 2010 dts platinum.. need the size since youngin is 2.. but when she's old enuf to sit without car seat I may consider this car.. will be more affordable by then too!!!!
The new body style CTS looks better than it has EVER looked also
Buick72100 disagree.....I rather have the 2008-2012 body but 14' aluminium parts
@@jquanbasil6794 no no no. Only the CTS-V look good in those model years.
2 things that would help this car sale. Make the audio and a/c controls simple with knobs and buttons. That section under the rear seat sticks to far out. What's up with that Cadillac. Besides these 2 flaws, this is an awesome car.
33 in the front 22 in the rear. I have a T-shirt that says " Poker in the front , Liquor in the rear "get it , LOL . Just joking , I love the third gen CTS , finally a car that can compete with top European performance sedans !!!!!!
Buying a 2014 CTS Vsport Premium today.
I need to research the cons now that they've been around for a while.
Love the Video M, got to learn a lot about the CTS ... I have to agree, GM got this car right!
You know, those sealing Panels underneath the car can double as a Protection Plate for the Powertrain & vital components from derbies & what not ... my Father's old Mercedes S300 (W126 & W140) had them & it worked wonders for us ... my Kia doesn't have it ... a piece of metal cut one of the Coolant hoes & mad a mess .... same with the Tesla S, but I digress. Got to set in a new CTS earlier tonight after setting in a new E class.... I love the interior, its indeed a world class interior & can match Zee Germans. On a side note, saw the new Escalade tonight .... WOW !
can I use the Crest shots from the intro as a wallpaper for my phone & Surface? *puppy eyes*
As always M, keep up the excellent work.
Funny you ask about the use the new Cadillac Crest Shot as your wallpaper - stay tuned. That said, feel free to use it . . . for your personal use.
MotoManTV Thanks M! I truly appreciate it :D Yep, It will be for me only :P
And Good luck
this is all great stuff, just wish they would have kept the design and aesthetics that people loved about the 2nd gen CTS, along with a coupe and wagon option, and improved upon them, instead of killing off the line to make GMs version of a Euro sedan
Is this all cts or just 3.6l and smaller?
When can we expect the director cut of this vid? I wouldn't mind watching an hour of it if possible.
Would LOVE share more with you guys on Dave however this film is kinda already the director's cut . . . Next time we shoot a Cadillac film, we will make Dave shoot for an entire day . . . :)
Good Video
Make another of the 2015 -2020 GM Full Size SUV - Escalade , Yukon , Tahoe
whay in 2015 went from Aluminum Control Arm to 2017 -2021 STAMPED STEEEL Front Control ARMS ??? WTF
beautiful looking car, but i'd take the 556 hp v8 CTV for less money any day. Any word on how hard it would be to tune of these things to around 500hp?
+James Garafalo For around $900 you get about 500hp with a plug and play module from Trifecta tuning that also gives it better transmission logic for performance driving. With this configuration and a little better tires the quarter mile will be mid to low 12's on a good day. Road and Track recorded a 12.7 quarter mile stock with a cool engine, but it's generally a low 13's car. This is a quote from another article comparing the two; "In terms of suspension and overall sporty driving feel, the Vsport is better than the CTS-V. It’s the one you want to take on a mountain pass." - Danny Cruz, Rallyways
The Alpha platform is quite a big improvement over the outgoing CTS-V. It changes direction better, stops faster, and generates significantly more grip (even with less performance-oriented tires). The Vsport starts at ~60,000 and the outgoing CTS - V was ~$65,000 so they are a little too close considering you're getting a true V with a Corvette engine that's designed for hard use. Cadillac has recently raised their prices in an attempt to increase the prestige of the brand as well. That's part of the reason the new CTS is $6,000 more and the new CTS-V is $18,000 more.
Does this mean the blackwing has aluminum doors also
They got many things right, but they got CUE totally wrong. I'll take the previous 2 Gen UI any day over CUE.
Great car to lease not to buy though . Thanks own a 2010 CTS 3.6 AWD cross my fingers I can get . 2 the 3 more years out of it .
When the Sports Wagon Coming?
Sadly, they have been VERY quiet about the prospect of a wagon . . . not certain if it is the cards . . .
Excellent job but i want to see Chris Harris's opinion on it.
Can you do something similar for the new Cadillac CT5 V?
Would LOVE to . . . sadly, Dave has retired and there is no one quite like him that can do this type of tech talk that is interesting. That is why you see more Designers than engineers on the show. I have a couple I feature frequently: Achim from Porsche and Dave Coleman from Mazda. You can see all of Dave's work here: ruclips.net/p/PLF6ek7dWy48qI_b0a29V9qvNZ9Zyf-5ni
@@MotoManTV sad news.
Are Cadillac's reliable long term once the car is out of warranty?
Not if you take it to a shitty Cadillac dealer who breaks more stuff than they fix. My car has been in and out of the shop for 3 months just before the warranty expires. I am never going back to that shop. Just to make it even better, they scratched the fender and the roof. Probably some idiot put his tools on the roof.
Should I buy a 2014 CTS V-Sport with 50k on it for 23k??? Seems fast but I didn't get on it and of course was not looking at the boost gauge at all.
Seems like a lot of money.
If it is well maintained and aesthetically clean with 50 k wouldn't seem too much, regular engine CTS from 2017 and 18 with similar miles are going for 20 to 25k. I bought a 2016 with 75k for $22500 and feel like I got a bargain. Definitely take it to a Cadillac dealer for a pre purchase inspection, I got it done for $300
Now thats what you call engineering....forget the germans
One question: are all the underbody panels used for all CTS or just the CTS-V? My 2010 has first 2 front panels.
GM could also make a smaller panel to make oil change easier to do, something that seems to be still missing. Something Ford did better on our Fusion Sport than GM on our CTS :)
Thank you for this very informative video.
The panels you see are for all models of 2014 CTS . . . As Dave said in the film, this is a sizable part of how they are able to achieve CAFE targets on this car.
Thanks for the response!
No one puts baby in the corner....(Jerry Orbach) Actually David Leoni is the only engineer I have respect for. And That auto trans shifts like a DSG
A big issue I have with Cadillac ATS AND CTS is their seats. The seats are by far the cheapest feeling unsupported seat when you compare them to a BENZ OR BMW . They really need more firmness and less girlie soft padding. That alone kept me in the Mercedes family .Price is pretty high as well .A CTS4 starting at $60k is $9k more then a E350W4 of the same year.
+duane howard Obviousluy you never sat in the CTS V Sport seats or the Recaro seats you can get in either the CTS V or ATS V, amazing seats and better than what you get in any of the german offers. A CTS 4 starts well below $60 K and the E Class is way more than $51K base, way off base pal.
Troy Power That's a $80,000 car . For that price they better have better seats . I was talking about the E350 AND AT THE TIME E550, NOT THE AMG ,AND THE BMW 5 SERIES ,NOT THE M 3,4 OR 5 !! You have your work cut out for you if you think you can come close to the seats in the BMW AND BENZ M & AMG SEATS!! CTS AND THE ATS , ARE VERY NICE CARS ,BUT SOME THINGS LIKE THOSE SEATS TAKE AWAY FROM THEM BECOMING A HIGH END SPORTS CAR .
duane howard The V series are the high end cadillac sport offers and their seats are excellent plus the two V's out perform their competition. Sorry pal but its the german offers that need to catch up
Catch up to the excellent recaros that are availble in the atsv and ctsv...the seats in the german offers blow compared to the recaros and the pricing for the V's is a steal compared to the bloated euro prices..
Troy Power Actually they use Recaro seats in their AMG GLA45 CLA45, C450,C63 & C63S CARS .
Steel door..does the German or Japanese use steel door on their entry level luxury car? I figure we are all using aluminum panels on luxury brand
All this light weight stuff but the cars are still heavier than shit!!! we save weight on the beams but we added more weight with under panels? Am I slow and missing something?
A large performance sedan at ~3900 lbs is not "heavier than shit" considering how large it is and the amount of stuff luxury cars have to be loaded up with these days.
It's about time that GM has a emphasis on performance & innovation.seems like some youth has been inserted n2 GM.a fire has been set under their real end.their finally building cars that people want,desire,& lust for!
Well I prefer a bulletproof car body
How that we achieved all that good stuff lets hope you don't get crushed when a truck hits you since all that's between is an air pillow.
American car, with an Australian chassis.
The Vsport has a very very annoying and consistent rattle under load and it's a middle finger by GM for not introducing a fix for these very expensive vsports.
It has been resolved, on plenty of forums. They fixed mine, there is a bar under the car, if bent it which it is for you. It will make that rattle sound because it is touching the exhaust
@@EGclassic I expect this is a different issue. The issue I am referring to is identifiable on cold starts... lasts about 5 seconds. When the car is warmed up after running, and you start it again, the rattle is not there. A bent bar first of all can not be a consistent problem UNLESS you are suggesting all bars are bent from factory. Even if it was it wouldn't go away the sound after 5 seconds... THere are no forums I've seen talking about "bent bars" that are the cause of this rattle.
@@rickdangerous5606 if you bought this car. You can afford platinum coverage and that covers everything which would save you. I had new two new turbos put on there for no $ out of my pocket. And that’s 8-9K worth of parts and labor. And new exhaust, running great. I also recommend using Liqui Molly Molygen, green oil. Runs smoother and better gas mileage
@@EGclassic I hear what you are saying but I've worked in the auto industry for nearly 15 years. If you buy these cars new in Canada yes back in 2014 one like mine would have been over $80,000 after taxes and a new caddy warranty would have made sense at that time because cost per year/KM on extended warranties is ALWAYS much more affordable on BRAND NEW classed purchases.
But I bought the car summer of 2020 with only about 64,000 KM on it and it was out of warranty. I paid ONLY $26,500 plus 13% HST Canadian for it. I can buy warranties AT COST from the provider and even a reputable 3rd party warranty for another 4 years/40,000 KM of coverage AT MY DEALER COST was just over $5000 plus 13% HST and that was with a $100 deductible so I can just IMAGINE what a genuine GM extended warranty would have cost on this car... probably closer to $8000 or more is my guess! That's far too much money to spend on a car that had no visible signs of failure and needed only 4 brand new tires to pass the Ontario Safety certification.
Besides that there is nothing wrong with a operation of the Turbos so an aftermarket warranty would have easily denied an $8000 claim.
Either way something is loose in there for sure and it happens to a lot of these older cars throwing $8000 at it to maybe solve the problem is not what car ownership is about for me. Car ownership for me is about finding affordable workarounds to production oversights so I will have to do some testing sometime to see if it is fact the wastegate arm rattling as is what I suspect at this time.
@@rickdangerous5606 I hear you bro. Mine is about 65K fully loaded. I installed the digital dash myself after my buddy reprogrammed it for me. These engines are bad ass, super fast stock and even more thrilling tuned. And I hear ya, the turbo wastegates cause the Rattle you are talking about. It just needs to be replaced which lucky for me there were some good mechanics at Covert Cadillac. Cause a lot of mechanics would not know how to operate on your LF3 Engine cause it’s a rare bird.
Why not just drop in a NA LS and call it a day.
FUEL ECONOMY. HELLO.
Nice car. I would love to own one but I am just to afraid of reliability. I Just don't know if I can trust GM to build a reliable car..
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They're pretty reliable
Awesome car! However, Cadillac needs to stop having wishi washi comercials.
Mercedez has agressive comercials flauting why the cars are so great while Cadillac has people going to black tie dinners
'First American car....' but engineered in Australia.
Would never buy a Cadillac again.. rip
The CUE infotainment deck ruined this beautiful car.
it is crap i agree and too many buttons everywhere...
The RWD platforms are *NOT* American. They are Australian design.
The older RWD platforms are, but I don't think the Alpha platform is.
Definitely wrong. Alpha chassis is all American and the best chassis in the world in its class, Drive the Germans and you will see what I mean.
Well I’ll respect the input on how good the 3rd generation might be. However, as a loyal Cadillac customer for 35 years . The last 2 vehicles were a CTS. And ATS . Both performance models and both NYS CERTIFIED refunded lemons . So unfortunately I did go foreign. No choice after 20+ breakdown. It’s going to take a lot more than you tube videos to get me back in. Hey, i was loyal. My heart is with Cadillac. But currently not sitting in one.
u need a 6 speed manual more wt to cut down fools
I definitely won't buy any thing pre 2014
My 2012 Cts 3.0 was incredibly reliable and had enough power to smack all my classmates 90s camaros and stangs just fine
Nice, except for the fact that the crappy touchscreens don't work. All that technology,, and a $1.99 touchscreen that costs $1300 to replace. I love the power and handling of my V-Sport but I won't be buying another Cadillac. It simply isn't ready for prime time.
So as usual GM is a few steps behind Ford in "newer to the U.S." technology!
The so called "relaunch" has made the brand famous, not profitable!! Cadillac has an impressive portfolio with plenty of high tech, but that's not making a sound business case for the brand. Cadillac has finally caught up with the competition, but that's not helping the bottom line. Buyers in this class that drive BMW and Lexus look at a Cadillac and say "that's nice" and go about their way. The CTS and ATS are impressive, but the rest of the brand is "warmed over" Chevrolet bits. The SRX is an eight year old Opel chassis that was originally used for the Saturn Vue. I commend GM for attacking the luxury market, but you have to make money at the same time and people have to actually buy your car.
V Sport, lololol.
The ats-v would wipe the floor with this
Obviously. The V-Sport trim is suppose to be below the V trim.
This good example of soooooo much ugliness on the outside and excellent mechanicals
They saved all that weight but sacrificed safety. Look at iihs crash test, it’s weakest. Passed by marginal score. Trump said Very bad! Dems design 😂
Wow , Very Nice video