A few notes here and there in case you’re confused: 1.Most weapons are found in the world instead of being sold in the weapon shop 2.Different characters have different fight styles. 2B can do advanced combos when holding light attack and can equip 2 weapons at once; A2 can also use 2 weapons at once but is unable to do advance combos. It is instead replaced by Taunt, and the self-destruct mode from 2B is also been replaced by the berserker mode, enabling high damage output but gradually chips away your health; 9S can only equip 1 weapon each time, and the heavy attack is replaced by hacking ability. 3.Weapon abilities are unlocked upon upgrades. To get the full 2 effect you must upgrade it to level 4 4.Normal Weapon trader can only upgrade weapons to level 3. To upgrade the weapons to level 4, you must find the machine blacksmith Masamune. He’s located under the Royal Chamber access point in the forest kingdom, behind a movable box.
A2 can also do the advanced combo thing, you just need to hold down the button but not long enough to start taunting. 9S also has heavy attack; don't spam the button and pause for a bit after the first move, then press the button and his heavy attack combo starts.
Constructive criticism: dont use a intro at all.. it doesn't have any purpose, the channel already has your name on it and its a waste of time for the watchers its pretty much obsolete at this point.
That's really the best way. It's all about enjoyment. Also, sometimes a game is more fun (and certainly more challenging) with literally _weaker_ weapons. Have you ever tried fighting Adam or Eve or another boss with bare fists? It takes a long time but it's a fun thing to achieve.
When I was playing as a2, I mixed kill heal chips with the angel fists (it's been a while, I forgot the name) and could infinitely berzerk, that was pretty fun
Ythen Kaigle I were using attack heal+heal on kills+all damage for the same effect and virtuous contract+type 40 spear combo(I think that type 40 spear is pretty underrated with its infinite stuns)
Oh so true. It pretty much breaks the game from B path on. Completely and ridiculously overpowered in my opinion. And it is not even something you have to equip. Although you can get boosters for it that are not that necessary though if you ask me. A2 should have thought about using it a bit more often than just in the ending of C D path...
@@sazuna4024 platinumed the Game and Never really used hacking it’s boring I wanna fuck trough some metal with katana action not hacking and playing fucking Mini Games
@@ano2101 Well you are forced to at some points in the game. Especially in the 9 S scenario and at the end of the 2 A. I don't remember if you actually have are forced use Hacking in the E path though. I think not. But I am not sure either.
I’m about 13 hours into this game and I’m starting to dive into the weapon upgrades and chips. It’s a lot of fun to try different combinations.. loving this game so far I wish I would have played this game years ago
The two starter blades maxed out are the best, because when at max health you get a damage boost from BOTH weps. So for pure damage these are the best, all you need is some healing chips and you will be max life all the time. Spears are best for 9s. The lance throw is just KING. And thus, the white lance is best.
Light attack: fang of the twins Heavy attack: spear of the usurper I like this combo for the extra damage and the bullet-hell clearing ability, especially for the colosseum
When I beat the game I was using a spear+gauntlet combo. A combo I only dreamt of having in games I've played previously. I seriously enjoyed the fast combo of the gauntlet and flashy moves when using the spear all the while having maximum shockwave attacks
Oh... I just used Virtuous Contract and Virtuous Dignity throughout the game lol... I have my chip setup for heals and melee damage/crits, and I've been doing fine. Never ran into an issue in the game where I thought my weapon wasn't good enough because they're very well balanced. I chose those 2 weapons because I loved the attack speed and slightly higher damage output of the spear in general. Basically having a "sword, sword, spear" combo over and over again, by putting the spear on the off-hand. I used the Virtuous Treaty as well for an off-hand wep, but it seems too slow for me. The damage is nice and all, but I fell in love w/ attack speed in this game and just went on like that.
When I played through it, I usually used the combo of Phoenix Daggers and Spear of the Usurper. The daggers kept my health up, and the Spear did heavy damage and turned enemies over to my side. Worked quite well.
A few I think should be higher: Ancient Overlord- bullet rupture is amazing especially for legendary. It also has very high average damage (570-703) and when paired with the crit, is very good. Cypress Stick- okay, with a level 8 crit chip, you’re hitting a critical every other attack. Don’t let the low damage fool you, if you invest into criticals, and pair it with the iron pipe, you won’t even need deadly heal chips, as they’re just superfluous with a leveled offensive heal. That pairing is insane. It’s what got me through the special rank of the flooded city arena.
Watching how the tier list videos started and fire they evolved sure is interesting. They are so great and funny though, that “didn’t bother” at the beginning was really funny.
Another great setup for the impossible DLC Arena is Demon’s Cry and Fang of the Twins. The attacks are WICKED FAST when A2 is in B mode and Fang of The Twins detonates ALL the bullets in the arena for you
When i played over a year ago, i used main hand angel fists and offhand type 4O fists, i stacked kill heal chips and was essentially unlikable, while pulling of insanely varied combos, it was like an advanced version of street fighter with even more combos, but open world. I'm thinking of doing a new set up for fun and to experience the emotions the game gave me when I played it :)
i don't know how i ended my first play through back then but at the moment I am using: bare fists and the type 3 sword. But i love iron will and the iron pipe. I like the dragoneer lance bc of Drakengard
So it appears sticking to orignal 2B weapons was a good idea. They look good, feel correct lore-wise to use, and it appears they are pretty strong too.
Weapon choice also depends on character choice and chip setup, and aside from stats and abilities, determines your specific move set, which is a further layer of nuance. I especially hate the combo attack for Bracers paired with Large Swords, because it's got a significant wind up and is the only combo that has a (surprisingly high) chance of not executing properly, while I'm pretty sure the Spear counter is one of the best counters in the game since it knocks everything Medium or smaller in a 360 degree radius away from you and grants a ton of I-frames. For an example of a character specific factor in weapon choice, B Mode makes the Virtuous weapons' passive useless because you'll never be at full health with it active, so A2 is better off with a different weapon setup. On the other hand, crit weapons have stupid levels of synergy with B Mode, since you're stacking damage multipliers at that point. If you like exotic chip setups, or are already fighting on Very Hard (Or S-Rank Gambler's Colosseum) anyway, you can combine a pair of Cruel weapons with a high-tier Last Stand chip on 2B to gain a virtually permanent damage buff that puts her on equal footing with A2's B Mode before even factoring in Weapon Attack + and/or Shockwave. Self Destruct sets your HP to 1, activating all the relevant boosts, but you'll probably need to adjust to the muffled sounds and lack of color vision. Thanks to his specific moveset with Spears, 9S actually has stupidly high damage output with them because his charged light attack will throw the spear far, fast, and hard, and it will even pierce multiple enemies. The Type 40 Spear in particular is well-regarded as far as 9S is concerned because of how much its abilities increase the damage and stun values, but the Spear of the Usurper is also great if you'd rather rely on crits.
I actually used Spear of the Usurper and Iron Pipe when I played; but I chose them because they were the coolest for me, when including the lore behind them.
I used Type-4O Spear with 9S almost all the time and it gave good results. Charge attack hits from long distance and often OS mobs. It was a nice addition to his hacking ability allowing to stay away from the fight and play 9S as a ranged character, which imo is why he is designed for. I'll definitely try the Spear of the Usurper, seems pretty strong.
Great video. I started playing today, so I still have some time picturing which weapon is which because I'm not familiar with them. Could be good to add pictures of the weapons as you mention them.
Have fun man and don't worry, you don't really need to concern yourself with any tier list. Most people finish the first playthrough without maxing any weapon, I just sticked to Virtuous Contract/ treaty combo and ancient overlord / fang of the twins. You have the Virtuous weapons from the start and the other 2 are bought from the camp shop iirc. And from the 2nd playthrough and on, you can user whatever looks best. Good plug in chips are more important than your weapons imo
I got ending A B C D and a lot of the "minor" ones, just using the initial weapon. To be honest it's just a matter of leveling up your character, then you can literally win every fight even without using a weapon...
The Dragoon Lance may be in the low tier here but its been helping me one shot most enemies I come across when at a high enough level. The best thing about it is it's charged attack becomes ranged so you can stay out of enemies attack range and basically snipe them. Hella powerful too
A combo that's been working for me has been a heavy sword as my light attack (Virtuous Treaty) with a lance as my heavy (Dignity), because the H Sword > Lance combo is just hella cool. And I need the attack speed buff, because they can be pretty slow.
I was pleasantly surprised to find my favorite weapon set up was among the best being Spear of the Usurper and Iron Pipe. The second ability of Usurper and the stackable Crit+ was just WAY too good to pass up. it's REALLY a shame that all of the combos and cool weapon set ups don't really matter too much due to the game being kinda not hard, and you can just out level stuff pretty quick. I really wish instead of a One Shot diff we instead got one that had level scaling. This game has a lot of complexities but there isn't a system that actually rewards you and encourages you to seek out those complexities.
So I accidentally saved over my original 2b playthrough can I never get that back or does it all just continue, like ik I keep my level but does it transfer weapons and are you forced to play what story your on or can you pick later on?
Playing this again on switch and this game still hits hard especially the soundtrack. I'm not even bothered by the fact that there is actually no "Transport" system in the early game. I just wanna walk with 2B aimlessly.
I don't know if this has been commented on but Virtuous Contract/Dignity (then cruel oath) are the main speedrun weapons due to a movement tech called speardashing and a glitch called damage glitch which only works with small swords on heavy.
Honestly I use the signature weapons of each character. (Currently on 2nd playthrough) I use 2B's main and 9S's Cruel set (the small one and the long one you find along the way) Not for the damage, but for the consistency in the story. (Mostly for the emotional part for me 😂)
2B/A2 - Demon's Cry / Type-4O Fists as primary/secondary combo is rather fun if you want a fast-paced beat-em-up style. It ended up being my favorite weapon set by the end just for how fun the combos were. 9S - Spear of the Usurper or the Type-4O Lance because having a charge-up attack that railguns the enemy with a spear is fun. Combined with a Tier 3 Overclock chip and every perfect dodge is an excuse to lineup the enemies and go spear bowling.
I have been playing with virtuos contract and beastlord, because virtuos contract is the fastest and beastlord is the strongest most consistent heavy weapon. But I got over to virtuos contract and rusty pipe and spammed the (hold) light attack.
I'm looking into it right now. A tier list is going to be hard but I think I can pull it off. My advice would be to focus on Shockwave, Crit Up and Offensive Heal. You literally will be untouchable.
Lol, I didn't even pay attention and just noticed after reading comments that you were at 1k subs...I assumed from the quality, presentation and overall just good information of the vid that this was a couple hundred thousand sub channel 😄 You'll be there soon enough, I hit the button to help out the journey, which i don't do very often in this over saturated shit pool hahaha. PS I loved the comment towards the end about using "literally the hands of satan" 😅
I dabbled with the weapons I found but basically played all four stories maining Virtuous Contract and Virtuous Treaty. As you say, they are so good out of the box. And running chips to recover health on kills keeps the buff running.
Virtuous Contract + Cruel Oath + deadly/aggressive heal works really well in arenas if you just want to go in. Contract for damage, Oath as a safety net and need kills to deadly heal. They’re decent vs groups but they utterly shred bosses like a chainsaw through butter because the speed + stacks, and you just spam the same combo. The other combo is demons cry + Virtuous treaty, if you want to play it safe, whittle them down from range with the big sword then pop them with the bracers. Heavy swords push enemies back, which has its uses.
My shock damage is at 2k, and my direct hit damage with weapons are nearly the same. And i use 2 gauntlets, and i use a specific combo for specific quick moment scenarios e.g. high crowd or high health crowd or high single target with them. The speed is incredibly fast with 2b with the specific endless combos i made with them so i absolutely reck havoc. I'd say i can do 30k damage within 7-10 seconds without interruption, and I'm often unlikely to be interrupted because i use a large series of shockwaves to wipe out all my enemies before they reach me. I don't know what I've done with A2 but i probably used the virtuous sword thing.
Finished the entire game using the original setup. The only time I had to switch weapons was for the special rank boss in the flooded city arena. Taunt +8, critical +8, attack +8, and continuous combo chips plus the iron pipe and ancient overlord. all used while in A2's berserker mode helped me take down that tank in seconds.
Trying to get all the weapons in the game makes me feel like a games journalist trying to beat a cuphead tutorial. Is there any way to get these with a keyboard and mouse?
So late to the game but I’m going through these comments and I’m seeing how much useful information is being spread and it’s so awesome! Thanks everyone and this game is truly a masterpiece!
Levels and chips mean way more than the minute differences that the weapons alone bring to a fight. This also discounted quite a few things, like how all the virtuous weapons get the same buffs, and if you equip spears in the heavy or light slot they will do piercing or sweeping combos. This honestly falls apart the more you know about the game, sure there are definitely "better" weapons and "broken" combos, but that doesn't really matter in this game at all. The higher difficulty (which is a joke) only demands better dodging and chip setup at most. Not to mention the fact that you need to upgrade all these weapons over the course of almost the entire game in some cases, just to receive the small perks each have. Use whatever weapons you want in whatever combo you want, they don't matter aside from looks when you really break it down. If you are looking to tear things up use chips, they basically give you all the buffs you will ever need from any weapon.
The Phoenix blade and the Beastblade are some that i used till nearly the end just to see if i could. Loved Automata man, almost as much as the the original Nier.
Im using the phoenix lance and the light first weapon. I can close distances extremly easly and i dont need wait to attack. I mostly start at a big distance with 2 lance attacks to shorten the distance and deal dmg with the shockwave and than use the full combo of the other weapon, which charges a big distance and deals a lot of dmg
So how does the weapon- stat-stacking work? Are the stats on both weapon sets active at all times? Or is it only the stats of the weapon set that you have currently equipped? For example, if I equip different weapons on set 1 and set 2, and I'm using set 1, am I reaping the benefits of both sets, or just set 1? Thanks.
You only get the benefits of the active weapon set. Some weapons also only give you the benefit if you're attacking with them (like Spear of the Usurper). For instance, if you have Cypress Stick on your active weapon set, unless my memory is really bad you'll get the cartoony damage numbers regardless what weapon you attack with. But if you have Cypress Stick on your other weapon set, you won't see those whacky numbers.
A few notes here and there in case you’re confused:
1.Most weapons are found in the world instead of being sold in the weapon shop
2.Different characters have different fight styles. 2B can do advanced combos when holding light attack and can equip 2 weapons at once; A2 can also use 2 weapons at once but is unable to do advance combos. It is instead replaced by Taunt, and the self-destruct mode from 2B is also been replaced by the berserker mode, enabling high damage output but gradually chips away your health; 9S can only equip 1 weapon each time, and the heavy attack is replaced by hacking ability.
3.Weapon abilities are unlocked upon upgrades. To get the full 2 effect you must upgrade it to level 4
4.Normal Weapon trader can only upgrade weapons to level 3. To upgrade the weapons to level 4, you must find the machine blacksmith Masamune. He’s located under the Royal Chamber access point in the forest kingdom, behind a movable box.
2B and 9S can also use Taunt though. Flash your Pod light repeatedly in front of enemies.
9S has heavy attack, it can be used if you spam attack button with slight delays
A2 can also do the advanced combo thing, you just need to hold down the button but not long enough to start taunting. 9S also has heavy attack; don't spam the button and pause for a bit after the first move, then press the button and his heavy attack combo starts.
Marco Ling I’ve playing on pc and didn’t know that, definitely trying it out though
Thanks for stating all the obvious... 👏🙄
"You can equip two of them for never ending combos" except when you play as 9S
do you automatically play as 9s in the second walkthrough and a2 in the third?
@@Kenzo-vg5ik the third run you play with both, A2 and 9S
@@vitorarz111 can a2 hack like 9s or no and thanks a lot in advance
@@Kenzo-vg5ik A2 wasent programed for that thype of service, her is a combat android (srr for the bad english)
I personally think that hacking is the most powerful weapon
hackerman (9s) is at another level
Game: “Type 4O”
This guy: “Type forty”
like Operator sixty and twohundredandten ? ;-)
I’ll admit, I called it Type “forty” until I saw an actual Zero and realized they were not the same
What's the big deal?
@@pantherowow77 It's Type 4O(four-Oh) not Type 40(forty or four-zero)
MySpaceBarBroke Never mind, i fixed it why did i read that in two accents lol
Constructive criticism: the opening sequence is EXTREMELY loud
Haha yes, I am working out the kinks. Criticism is always appreciated.
Lower volume = problem solved...
The outro too though, scared the sh*t out of me...
@@SilentAndy but then the audio doesn't match up with the rest of the video.
Constructive criticism: dont use a intro at all..
it doesn't have any purpose, the channel already has your name on it and its a waste of time for the watchers
its pretty much obsolete at this point.
Spears are pretty much the only thing that makes 9S worthwhile, gameplay-wise. That throw attack is crazy.
Nah sword and GS are fire too
Me when I become an Olympic Javelin tosser
P.S. Gauntlets also let you do that.
Yeah I just used the weapons that I thought looked the coolest.
Engine Blade in that case is top tier🤡
That's really the best way. It's all about enjoyment. Also, sometimes a game is more fun (and certainly more challenging) with literally _weaker_ weapons. Have you ever tried fighting Adam or Eve or another boss with bare fists? It takes a long time but it's a fun thing to achieve.
Facts, I switch them out every couple of missions.
When I was playing as a2, I mixed kill heal chips with the angel fists (it's been a while, I forgot the name) and could infinitely berzerk, that was pretty fun
you can just spam heals too
@@mindbreak666 That's literally what they just said (kinda).
@@SilentAndy nan
i meant manually using heal items to extend berserk even further
Ythen Kaigle I were using attack heal+heal on kills+all damage for the same effect and virtuous contract+type 40 spear combo(I think that type 40 spear is pretty underrated with its infinite stuns)
Infinite berserker is pretty much necessary to beat the flooded city dlc arena special level fight
Best weapon: Hacking
Finally someone gets it
best weapon: philosophy degree
Oh so true. It pretty much breaks the game from B path on. Completely and ridiculously overpowered in my opinion. And it is not even something you have to equip. Although you can get boosters for it that are not that necessary though if you ask me. A2 should have thought about using it a bit more often than just in the ending of C D path...
@@sazuna4024 platinumed the Game and Never really used hacking it’s boring I wanna fuck trough some metal with katana action not hacking and playing fucking Mini Games
@@ano2101 Well you are forced to at some points in the game. Especially in the 9 S scenario and at the end of the 2 A. I don't remember if you actually have are forced use Hacking in the E path though. I think not. But I am not sure either.
2B/A2: Virtuous Contract + Cypress Stick
Chip Set: Damage + Deadly Heal
9S: Spear of the Usurper
Chip Set: Damage + CRIT
No. Berserk mode prevents you from always being at 100% health. Don't put virtuous weapons on A2, if you use Berserker mode, and you should use it.
Best weapons in the game:
Virtuous treaty.
Virtuous treaty again.
Virtuous Contract/Faith/Iron Pipe + Virtuous Treaty: a Fucking Killing Machine
Virtuous contract is better because of the light sword damage glitch
@@nef36 hold up the what?!!
@@MrShazaamable watch a Games Done Quick of the game and the sleepover will likely explain it
I’m about 13 hours into this game and I’m starting to dive into the weapon upgrades and chips. It’s a lot of fun to try different combinations.. loving this game so far I wish I would have played this game years ago
This is one of the highest quality videos I have see from a very small channel keep at and you'll blow up
I like whichever weapon hides least of 2bs assets.
Same 😉
L3 + R3 for 2 seconds
Same, l use fists
ASSets
Guess y'all never seen real life ass before. Y'all need to get laid. Lol
dunoo I just upgraded first two swords you get playing as 2B and went with that
Yeah I didn't switch out my weapons that much. I used the machine spear for most of the game and the starter sword for the whole game.
Yeah the weapons you use in this game and chips and whatever don't matter
The two starter blades maxed out are the best, because when at max health you get a damage boost from BOTH weps. So for pure damage these are the best, all you need is some healing chips and you will be max life all the time.
Spears are best for 9s. The lance throw is just KING. And thus, the white lance is best.
Same
@@Ryullious fr spear throw for 9s is like firing off an AT4 every attack. Shit slaps hard smh
Light attack: fang of the twins
Heavy attack: spear of the usurper
I like this combo for the extra damage and the bullet-hell clearing ability, especially for the colosseum
When I beat the game I was using a spear+gauntlet combo. A combo I only dreamt of having in games I've played previously. I seriously enjoyed the fast combo of the gauntlet and flashy moves when using the spear all the while having maximum shockwave attacks
Oh... I just used Virtuous Contract and Virtuous Dignity throughout the game lol... I have my chip setup for heals and melee damage/crits, and I've been doing fine. Never ran into an issue in the game where I thought my weapon wasn't good enough because they're very well balanced. I chose those 2 weapons because I loved the attack speed and slightly higher damage output of the spear in general. Basically having a "sword, sword, spear" combo over and over again, by putting the spear on the off-hand. I used the Virtuous Treaty as well for an off-hand wep, but it seems too slow for me. The damage is nice and all, but I fell in love w/ attack speed in this game and just went on like that.
You're in need of subs like how I needed to find a weapon to take on the harder difficulty. Keep it up 💪
When I played through it, I usually used the combo of Phoenix Daggers and Spear of the Usurper. The daggers kept my health up, and the Spear did heavy damage and turned enemies over to my side. Worked quite well.
I actually impressed with the quality good job
A few I think should be higher:
Ancient Overlord- bullet rupture is amazing especially for legendary. It also has very high average damage (570-703) and when paired with the crit, is very good.
Cypress Stick- okay, with a level 8 crit chip, you’re hitting a critical every other attack. Don’t let the low damage fool you, if you invest into criticals, and pair it with the iron pipe, you won’t even need deadly heal chips, as they’re just superfluous with a leveled offensive heal. That pairing is insane. It’s what got me through the special rank of the flooded city arena.
such high quality, but only 20 subs?? i think ur about to blow up
Hey I appreciate that! Thanks for subbing.
You were right :D
@@locloudanerpg did you srsly only have 20 subs??
@@mrsenpaihd7485 Crazy that it's ancient history now. The rate I'm going we should hit 10,000 by the end of the year.
It doesnt take 10 minutes to say virtuous contract
Nice video. Apparently I played with a lot of low tier, except the Virtuous pairing. I kept coming back to that one.
Watching how the tier list videos started and fire they evolved sure is interesting.
They are so great and funny though, that “didn’t bother” at the beginning was really funny.
Picked up the game today and came across your channel and video today my friend..
Many thanks and new subbed! 👌🏿
Sweet. Don't let anyone spoil the true ending for you!
Another great setup for the impossible DLC Arena is Demon’s Cry and Fang of the Twins. The attacks are WICKED FAST when A2 is in B mode and Fang of The Twins detonates ALL the bullets in the arena for you
When i played over a year ago, i used main hand angel fists and offhand type 4O fists, i stacked kill heal chips and was essentially unlikable, while pulling of insanely varied combos, it was like an advanced version of street fighter with even more combos, but open world. I'm thinking of doing a new set up for fun and to experience the emotions the game gave me when I played it :)
I always love the original Virtuous setups it fits 2b so well
I prefer the virtuous contract and virtuous spear, forgot its name
as it should be. powerful weapons specially youre at full health
"one of the greatest games ever made"
Couldn't have said it better myself. Love this game.
I still wonder what is so good about this game except the music, which is stellar, and the quality of the animations.
@@souitenesse674 It’s the combat and the heavy hitting story that do it for me
Many things this game can do better. No where near greatest game of all time.
@@damienluedtke9276 name one complaint
@@benb1396 i swear people qlways nitpick for no reason. This, botw and oot are my favs of all time
i don't know how i ended my first play through back then but at the moment I am using: bare fists and the type 3 sword.
But i love iron will and the iron pipe. I like the dragoneer lance bc of Drakengard
2B: 9S, what's that?
9S: Oh, that's a mouse
2B:...
9S:...
9S: These things are weird, 2B, let's kill it.
2B: Good idea.
So it appears sticking to orignal 2B weapons was a good idea. They look good, feel correct lore-wise to use, and it appears they are pretty strong too.
Weapon choice also depends on character choice and chip setup, and aside from stats and abilities, determines your specific move set, which is a further layer of nuance. I especially hate the combo attack for Bracers paired with Large Swords, because it's got a significant wind up and is the only combo that has a (surprisingly high) chance of not executing properly, while I'm pretty sure the Spear counter is one of the best counters in the game since it knocks everything Medium or smaller in a 360 degree radius away from you and grants a ton of I-frames.
For an example of a character specific factor in weapon choice, B Mode makes the Virtuous weapons' passive useless because you'll never be at full health with it active, so A2 is better off with a different weapon setup. On the other hand, crit weapons have stupid levels of synergy with B Mode, since you're stacking damage multipliers at that point.
If you like exotic chip setups, or are already fighting on Very Hard (Or S-Rank Gambler's Colosseum) anyway, you can combine a pair of Cruel weapons with a high-tier Last Stand chip on 2B to gain a virtually permanent damage buff that puts her on equal footing with A2's B Mode before even factoring in Weapon Attack + and/or Shockwave. Self Destruct sets your HP to 1, activating all the relevant boosts, but you'll probably need to adjust to the muffled sounds and lack of color vision.
Thanks to his specific moveset with Spears, 9S actually has stupidly high damage output with them because his charged light attack will throw the spear far, fast, and hard, and it will even pierce multiple enemies. The Type 40 Spear in particular is well-regarded as far as 9S is concerned because of how much its abilities increase the damage and stun values, but the Spear of the Usurper is also great if you'd rather rely on crits.
You put the Type-3 Fists in both Low and Mid tier. Also might as well add Bare Fists too lol
The Phoenix spear being this low on the list feels really like weird after having played replicant with it, and it was an absolute monster of a weapon
Why is this guy not at 1k subscribers yet? This helped me so much when playing Nier
Success is in the monotony my friend. Thanks for your support!
This dude: With another *small* sword like virtous *treaty*
Yeah, small sword
Virtuous Contract and Virtuous Treaty
Type 40 Sword and Type 40 Blade
Both work out great for me! Except when playing as 9S...
This takes me back I don't remember exactly the build but I remember using a throwing spear crit build that could one shot anything. Literally
I love the references in the weapons names.
Damn, now I wanna replay this gem.
I actually used Spear of the Usurper and Iron Pipe when I played; but I chose them because they were the coolest for me, when including the lore behind them.
I feel like this is the only solid video on this subject
thank you
Emil's heads is the best weapon in the game and you can't convince me otherwise.
Great video, maybe now I will be able to beat the last level of the arena
Bro, you've got no need to push for subs. Your videos are of the kind of quality that you don't even need to.
Coming from the one and only Radiant Beach Shulk that has to be true! Haha thanks for the support!
@@locloudanerpg You're welcome! Just finished your XC2 Blade tier list and I'm looking forward to part 2.
(P.S. I'm god tier literally)
Subbed!!! Great content, appreciate it.
Thank you!
I used Type-4O Spear with 9S almost all the time and it gave good results. Charge attack hits from long distance and often OS mobs. It was a nice addition to his hacking ability allowing to stay away from the fight and play 9S as a ranged character, which imo is why he is designed for.
I'll definitely try the Spear of the Usurper, seems pretty strong.
RUclips recommends this video to me an hour after I sacrifice my save data to help someone with the final battle.
Pretty sure Cypress is pronounced "Sigh-press"
Wow. By the quality of the content, I was surprised to see that this channel was so small! Subbed!
Great video. I started playing today, so I still have some time picturing which weapon is which because I'm not familiar with them. Could be good to add pictures of the weapons as you mention them.
Have fun man and don't worry, you don't really need to concern yourself with any tier list. Most people finish the first playthrough without maxing any weapon, I just sticked to Virtuous Contract/ treaty combo and ancient overlord / fang of the twins. You have the Virtuous weapons from the start and the other 2 are bought from the camp shop iirc. And from the 2nd playthrough and on, you can user whatever looks best. Good plug in chips are more important than your weapons imo
Virtuous contract and ancient overlord got me through the entire game with no issues at all. Really liked that combo.
I got ending A B C D and a lot of the "minor" ones, just using the initial weapon.
To be honest it's just a matter of leveling up your character, then you can literally win every fight even without using a weapon...
i mean in the vid he literally places the starting weapons in high tier and god tier. did you watch it or nah?
Thank you, I love Nier automata videos!
You're welcome! More content is on its way!
The Dragoon Lance may be in the low tier here but its been helping me one shot most enemies I come across when at a high enough level. The best thing about it is it's charged attack becomes ranged so you can stay out of enemies attack range and basically snipe them. Hella powerful too
Thank you so much! I'm playing this wonderful game on my PS5 now. Great video! Subscribed.
Thanks! You won’t regret it!
@@locloudanerpg =D Great!
A combo that's been working for me has been a heavy sword as my light attack (Virtuous Treaty) with a lance as my heavy (Dignity), because the H Sword > Lance combo is just hella cool. And I need the attack speed buff, because they can be pretty slow.
You didnt talk about the Type-40 Spear, I really like it. I just adore the spear/ultra combo, its a bit slow but punishes creates some good spare
I was pleasantly surprised to find my favorite weapon set up was among the best being Spear of the Usurper and Iron Pipe. The second ability of Usurper and the stackable Crit+ was just WAY too good to pass up.
it's REALLY a shame that all of the combos and cool weapon set ups don't really matter too much due to the game being kinda not hard, and you can just out level stuff pretty quick. I really wish instead of a One Shot diff we instead got one that had level scaling. This game has a lot of complexities but there isn't a system that actually rewards you and encourages you to seek out those complexities.
So I accidentally saved over my original 2b playthrough can I never get that back or does it all just continue, like ik I keep my level but does it transfer weapons and are you forced to play what story your on or can you pick later on?
Playing this again on switch and this game still hits hard especially the soundtrack. I'm not even bothered by the fact that there is actually no "Transport" system in the early game. I just wanna walk with 2B aimlessly.
uh... holy shit. I didn't know almost any of these weapons even existed
We all know the best weapon is 2 great swords and spamming attack dodged until everything dies
Great sword for smaller and stagger enemies, sword and spear for big enemies that can't be pushed around and keep spamming attacks
Seeing 2B in Kaine's oufit makes me wish you could get Emil's (either human or weapon form's) clothes for 9S. Probably just me tho.
I always loved using spears on 9s for the charged throw inbetween hacks :D
Pipe best weapon simply bc heartwarming but sad reference
:'3
I don't know if this has been commented on but Virtuous Contract/Dignity (then cruel oath) are the main speedrun weapons due to a movement tech called speardashing and a glitch called damage glitch which only works with small swords on heavy.
Honestly I use the signature weapons of each character. (Currently on 2nd playthrough)
I use 2B's main and 9S's Cruel set (the small one and the long one you find along the way)
Not for the damage, but for the consistency in the story. (Mostly for the emotional part for me 😂)
2B/A2 - Demon's Cry / Type-4O Fists as primary/secondary combo is rather fun if you want a fast-paced beat-em-up style. It ended up being my favorite weapon set by the end just for how fun the combos were.
9S - Spear of the Usurper or the Type-4O Lance because having a charge-up attack that railguns the enemy with a spear is fun. Combined with a Tier 3 Overclock chip and every perfect dodge is an excuse to lineup the enemies and go spear bowling.
I have been playing with virtuos contract and beastlord, because virtuos contract is the fastest and beastlord is the strongest most consistent heavy weapon.
But I got over to virtuos contract and rusty pipe and spammed the (hold) light attack.
Love the video but I would like to know some of the chip setups used in the video or perhaps a follow up video regarding builds.
I'm looking into it right now. A tier list is going to be hard but I think I can pull it off. My advice would be to focus on Shockwave, Crit Up and Offensive Heal. You literally will be untouchable.
Use two small swords or the three set ups I had in the vid.
I just loved the engine blade for the reference.
Is there some French in your intro ?
"... reprendre votre thérapie..." 😂
Thanks for the knowledge you share, great video
Lol, I didn't even pay attention and just noticed after reading comments that you were at 1k subs...I assumed from the quality, presentation and overall just good information of the vid that this was a couple hundred thousand sub channel 😄 You'll be there soon enough, I hit the button to help out the journey, which i don't do very often in this over saturated shit pool hahaha. PS I loved the comment towards the end about using "literally the hands of satan" 😅
Haha much appreciated. Uploading a new vid today. Thanks for the sub!
I dabbled with the weapons I found but basically played all four stories maining Virtuous Contract and Virtuous Treaty. As you say, they are so good out of the box. And running chips to recover health on kills keeps the buff running.
I didn't even know there were this many weapons o.o
Virtuous Contract + Cruel Oath + deadly/aggressive heal works really well in arenas if you just want to go in. Contract for damage, Oath as a safety net and need kills to deadly heal. They’re decent vs groups but they utterly shred bosses like a chainsaw through butter because the speed + stacks, and you just spam the same combo.
The other combo is demons cry + Virtuous treaty, if you want to play it safe, whittle them down from range with the big sword then pop them with the bracers. Heavy swords push enemies back, which has its uses.
My shock damage is at 2k, and my direct hit damage with weapons are nearly the same.
And i use 2 gauntlets, and i use a specific combo for specific quick moment scenarios e.g. high crowd or high health crowd or high single target with them.
The speed is incredibly fast with 2b with the specific endless combos i made with them so i absolutely reck havoc. I'd say i can do 30k damage within 7-10 seconds without interruption, and I'm often unlikely to be interrupted because i use a large series of shockwaves to wipe out all my enemies before they reach me.
I don't know what I've done with A2 but i probably used the virtuous sword thing.
Finished the entire game using the original setup. The only time I had to switch weapons was for the special rank boss in the flooded city arena. Taunt +8, critical +8, attack +8, and continuous combo chips plus the iron pipe and ancient overlord. all used while in A2's berserker mode helped me take down that tank in seconds.
Trying to get all the weapons in the game makes me feel like a games journalist trying to beat a cuphead tutorial. Is there any way to get these with a keyboard and mouse?
So late to the game but I’m going through these comments and I’m seeing how much useful information is being spread and it’s so awesome! Thanks everyone and this game is truly a masterpiece!
Same.
Levels and chips mean way more than the minute differences that the weapons alone bring to a fight. This also discounted quite a few things, like how all the virtuous weapons get the same buffs, and if you equip spears in the heavy or light slot they will do piercing or sweeping combos. This honestly falls apart the more you know about the game, sure there are definitely "better" weapons and "broken" combos, but that doesn't really matter in this game at all. The higher difficulty (which is a joke) only demands better dodging and chip setup at most. Not to mention the fact that you need to upgrade all these weapons over the course of almost the entire game in some cases, just to receive the small perks each have.
Use whatever weapons you want in whatever combo you want, they don't matter aside from looks when you really break it down. If you are looking to tear things up use chips, they basically give you all the buffs you will ever need from any weapon.
Yaaas, type 3 blade finally being represented!!!
I recently started playing and when I got faith I paired with Virtuous contract and fell in love the speed is amazing and the damage on a2 is amazing
Still don’t have the game yet but imma just hit that subscribe button when I do get the game... good video btw
Lil_dashiepogs Thanks man. Don’t sleep on this one, it’s amazing!
Iron pipe and Cypress Stick. Those were my go tos. :)
I wish you wouldve put the weapon icons and names on the screen, they all look similar on screen and you cant tell them apart that much
The Phoenix blade and the Beastblade are some that i used till nearly the end just to see if i could. Loved Automata man, almost as much as the the original Nier.
is demon’s cry primary spear of the usurper secondary a good idea?
I just run into packs of mobs, spam buttons and hope I don't die.
Engine Blade + Virtuous Treaty... VT for the dmg and the engine blade for the combos + the after image effect animation looks fcking awesome...
And then theres me who just stuck with the virtuous contract and virtuous treaty for my first couple playthroughs
Just downloading it this was a handy watch.
When I looked at beastlord and Phoenix dagger I instantly thought it was about the original Nier, then I read the title
Im using the phoenix lance and the light first weapon. I can close distances extremly easly and i dont need wait to attack. I mostly start at a big distance with 2 lance attacks to shorten the distance and deal dmg with the shockwave and than use the full combo of the other weapon, which charges a big distance and deals a lot of dmg
I'm glad I missed this game when it was released about to start a new game for the first time.
What about wide range attack 2B does with spear paired with heavy blade?
So how does the weapon- stat-stacking work? Are the stats on both weapon sets active at all times? Or is it only the stats of the weapon set that you have currently equipped? For example, if I equip different weapons on set 1 and set 2, and I'm using set 1, am I reaping the benefits of both sets, or just set 1? Thanks.
You only get the benefits of the active weapon set. Some weapons also only give you the benefit if you're attacking with them (like Spear of the Usurper). For instance, if you have Cypress Stick on your active weapon set, unless my memory is really bad you'll get the cartoony damage numbers regardless what weapon you attack with. But if you have Cypress Stick on your other weapon set, you won't see those whacky numbers.
@@Shin_FTW Thanks!