8:30 NO, they have their ORIGINAL home again, it's Mount Hyjal. In it's storyline for Cata, we get it to almost 100%, get the original crew of guardians back, and the champions of azeroth are upgraded to being it's guardians with them. BUT we all found out together that, Firelands and Ragnaros were syphoning that healing and after we took it down, Hyjal is back to full, AND the champions of azeroth are it's protectors. Thrall's marriage was held there to consecrate it's return to full health. When the corrupted elemental gang of Deathwing gave their 'wedding' gift to azeroth by kidnapping Thrall. We save him, and the final patch of Cataclysm happens. They can return home -Mount Hyjal at ANY time, but a entire crew of 'lore' obviously haven't played the expansion content, or they'd know this.
What's happening now could still tie into all that. I've been playing the Sentinel Tree content on my Druid alt (The world tree that we grew in the Firelands) and something I've never noticed before is how all the fire elementals around the portal to the Sentinel Tree's grove are all shadow-flame elementals, just like what we will be dealing with in the new subterranean zone, we're about to get. And obviously, this all takes place at Mount Hyjal.
At this point in their story, if you put on the armor you'd drop dead or go missing or locked up or loose your powers. We can't have living powerful night elves anymore.
Who cares? SL "taught" us already that elune like all other pantheon "gods" is a badly designed robot from a 3D printer. Like all of them she is simply designed this way. All her personalit...all her powers. ....Another kick for the night elves culture 😢
@@Loh4984 I'm not too hung up on the robot gods. all things need to be made, whats it matter if they robots or flesh robots. They still have cosmic level powers and history. With Elune specifily I'm more interested in SL's story thread of her involving herself in other worlds, but counting the Kaldori as her favorites.
@@Loh4984 Elune is not necessarily a 3D-printed robot. Pelagos wasn't before he became the Arbiter, so Elune and the Winter Queen may have been sisters before one of them became the Winter Queen.
It's important to note that there's a portal to the Emerald Dream here, which connects it easily enough to the other Night Elf holdings in Ashenvale, Feralas and Val'sharah.
I would rather have them infuse the seed in Hyjal to reinforce the tree that was already healed. Not only that but it has the Well of Eternity right below it like… Hyjal was their seat of power and idk why that’s just not given back.
it's a stone's throw away from the seat of the Horde capitol. Them orcs have been harrassing them since they set up Orgimmar, chipping and chopping away at the Ashenvale forest. Even if there is peace at the moment, war can always return like it has every other expansion. You could say it would advantageous to set up near by but, after everything they've been through I think they'd want to be somewhere far away and safe. Planting it by the green dragons, their greatest draconic ally RIGHT on their home turf is the best place to ensure safety. Anyone shows up to mess with that tree I doubt Ysera or Alexstrazsa would just sit by and let it happen.
To begin with. Nordrassil has only one point of acces through land which is Winterspring which would make it pretty impossible to attack given that you have to go up the entire mountain all the way up to the World Tree. Second, the Night Elves have a right to Kalimdor and to suggest they're better off in the isles because there's dragons in there is crazy. The dragons didn't aid during the Burning of Teldrassil, hell, they didn't even aid during the asault of the Legion besides the blues. The dragons do not have a faction affiliation and will remain that way. The true races connected with the Nelves are Mountain Giants, Dryads, and Grovekeepers, as shown in Warcraft III, NOT dragons. Third, it's in their very name "KAL"'dorei. They are to remain in KALimdor, and not leave because the Horde cannot stop destroying everything they touch. Again, the tree is completely healed, the remaining Well of the Eternity is in there too, there were even sprouts of Azerite during BfA and it also is linked with the dream. If they returned to Nordrassil from post-BFA up to now, I don't see why they should move out.
I really, really, really hope they don't bring Elune into the narrative directly. Casting her as a malfunctioning space robot in Shadowlands absolutely devastated night elf lore.
Hate her character design too. They just really killed it with her character. I thought she would be more divine and then her story in SL…it’s so disappointing.
Kaldorei had mages for 5000 years before the sundering, and broke the troll and aqir empires with it, securing their place on Azeroth. Malfurion and Tyrande are revolutionary leaders who outstayed their relevancy, banished and imprisoned the powerhouse of their culture and started the slow, 10000 year decline that we play in, today. I take one look at the Draenei, who embraced ALL magics, and think very not nice words about the two aforementioned yahoos, who would clearly prefer if the race went back to being [privileged] trolls. As a nightelf player, I'm not happy. But I'm not surprised. If Illidan, Maiev or even Azshara had been in charge, we would be in a different place.
9:48 I have seen that as the 'world peace settlement' for years now. Honestly, I figured that both, the Horde losing Undercity/Ruins of Lordaeron, and the Alliance loosing the World Tree/Nordrassil, was really (besides storytelling) Blizzard simply removing the footholds so that the Horde gets all of Kalimdor, and the Alliance bet all of Eastern Kingdoms.
I'm really not OK with where they're taking the night elves. I wasnt ok with the "we're not going to kill her" angle with Sylvanas, and I'm not ok with this planting of the night elves in the dragon isles. I feel ZERO connection to the dragon isles. The story for me is getting so convoluted and so retconned that the story is unrecognizable anymore. Since Shadowlands I've been retreating more and more from WoW and with the night elf situation.... I'm really not sure how much more I can take from Blizzard
The tree should be in Kalimdor, or at least one of the trees/some big Night Elven city. Maybe with some zone update/redesign where they heal some of those damaged lands.
A "World Tree" that actually grows DEEP roots throughout Azeroth (or the Dream) and connects to every other World Tree would be neat. A connection that potentially, if slowly, rehabilitates Teldrassil would be nice to see too. Plus a travel/transport network of some sort between them? There are, what, five world trees? And another tree on the far side of Azeroth, question mark?
I like this idea. I never realized how many world trees there are in WoW after watching this video. I think one major tree connecting to all of them can be really cool like you said.
I really want a home for the night elves grown out of the ashes pf Teldrasil. Not necessarily another tree but a home reborn from the ashes of their lost home. It fits both their old tenacity and their current renewal arc. Cheesy? A little but this is World of "I am my scars!" Warcraft. A bit of cheese is fine
I think there is a huge possibility that you will get a whole new "island" Would make sense to keep the Night Elves starting area/Capitol nearby their old one... And we have seen in DF that Kalimdor have been moved quite far to the Right.. So what exactly are blizzard making room for West of Kalimdor? :)
Seems odd that they're giving the Night Elves a "new tree" that will in fact be frozen in time and unavailable to anyone not playing dragonflight. Talk about the opposite of evergreen content.
It would be kinda funny if Vyranoth tries to freeze the new Nelf tree, acts like she's won, then it turns out being blessed by the Winter Queen lets it basically shrug it off, also it would be an interesting new direction for the nightelves to tie them in with the Nightfae, have them tied to both life and death
saying "if they put the night elves into the dragon isle that'd make kalimdor horde only" is a silly argument, if that's how you feel, it already is horde only. the night elves and worgen are holed up in stormwind... oh yeah lets also forget about the draenei...
I thinksthat Kalindor has a lot of places for the nelf to make a new home, maybe the new tree is just a way for Azeroth to be heal again, and Teldrassil can be restore, like Undercity and the help of the SL. I think horde is getting more good things, like the goblins and their city, and the worgens dont getting any, lets hope that this ends well, or many people are gonna be so disappoined. Tyrande already say it, we are so tired.
The lore will never recover with this team at the helm. Poor night elf mains. Horde commits genocide on an entire race and get complete control of the continent for it.
So, as a night elf main, I don't see a world tree in the dragon isles as an end to night elf culture. In fact, I see it as the opposite. The night elves know how to traverse the dream. There is a dreamway portal connected to the new trees location. And there are portals all over Azeroth. I can easily see the night elves using the new tree as a home through witch they expand via the dreamways to settle all throughout Azeroth. Mobilising armies across the globe via the dream. Let the kultirans have their ships. The horde their airships. The night elves can strike from anywhere, covering miles in mere moments. This could comfortably be a hint at a new age of power for the night elves.
There is no coincidence that the storyline surrounding decay magic takes you across Azure Span to the northwesternmost point, as close as you can get to the new world tree spot without taking plot real estate from the green dragon area. I also really hope deathbound world tree + decay magic = proper exploration of the drust and thros
Night elves went from a rabidly religious and xenophobic warrior society to anime waifus to incompetent, whiny emo goth wannabes over the span of the last 20 years.
Man, the phrase "maybe the Horde being a little bit penitent for their pretty significant role in destroying the whole area" has got to be the understatement of the year.
Just goes to show how pathetic they are. Instead of doing the smart thing and finishing their enemy off they're just going to let them live and fester so they can be attacked again.
@@apacalypsagon3758 That is how they are written to be. Same with the Alliance. Neither will ever finish off the other, it is a non-starter. There is a reason the faction conflict was largely put to rest.
@@Arkancide more like writing a story half baked without ever really going balls deep. One side doesn't have to completely wipe out the other. The world's way bigger than the alliance or the horde. You can write about a group of orcs or elves without representing the whole team .
The problem with the rage of night elf players is this cinematic doesn't say where the tree is going to bloom. It was always known it was going to grow in the emerald dream and then be moved somewhere. It does not mention the tree will end up in the dragon isles. Two the night elves still have a heavy presence in kalimdor even without their home tree. They are still on mount hyjal healing Nordrasil. They still have a presence in Feralas and other places around Kalimdor. It is possible for night elves to live in different places on kalimdor even if the tree ended up being in dragon isles. They absolutely could make nordrisal their home.
When you realize that the Forsaken used blight and destroyed the whole area* And even attacked settlements with daggers infused with blight. There was no dwarven, human or gnomish machinery in Darkshore. The Horde alone did that
One option which can be done is completely heal hyjal and make it their home? Abd in case if people want to take om the raid a timeway can be set like it was done for uldum
Sticking a new Night Elf tree in the Dragon Isles and basically throwing away the Alliance's most interesting race and its heritage is such a post-BfA Blizzard thing to do. This isn't *our* story. It's not even Warcraft's story. This is someone's "Happy-fell-good"-fanfic, and we're all being made to put up with it. Just like M+ and raiding isn't designed to suit the community, but to please Ion, the story is being written for the writers, not the community, and more so than the obvious lack of content, that's really the most scary thing about WoW's "new direction". WoW has become the Ship of the Theseus, and at some point veteran fans are going to look at this, look back at Warcraft, Wrath or Mists and ask: "Wait up; what even is this game?"
Nightelves will see that way... Teldrassil is a HUSK. Darkshore is devastated. Ashenvale and Astranaar a graveyard. We see it that way right now! What did the Horde had to pay back? What did they had to surrender after they lost the last war they started? Oh yeah, they have a COUNCIL now, no more warchiefs. Fair enough. Isnt it?
i don't care what staring area Night elfs get as long as old Teldrassil will remain in game. I refuse to accept any new area Night elfs get if old Teldrassil will be removed from the game.
I wonder what this means for night elves eternal life that was taken from them, they lost it when the last world tree was destroyed, this is basically an authentic world tree, not one grown from the stolen water of the well of eternity and planted canonically without the blessing of elune. this one is made from a seed of her tears and invigorated by the souls of night elves, then nurtured in the dream.
As a Tauren main for 16 years, i hereby invite the Night Elves to settle with us in Mulgore. Let us unite to drive the quilboar and Grimtotem from our lands, and sow the fresh seeds of a mighty new woodland realm. There amidst the mighty tries and windswept mesas, we may at last find the peace and and sanctuary our peoples deserve.
I just hope that night elves get something for their own here, and not as a tool for the Alliance or Horde. I think out of all the bad prior, what makes it so frustrating is that the devs basically went "Which culture can we sacrifice for the Sylvanas/Anduin storyline" and from that perspective, whoever held Darnassus might even have been the best choice. But the way it was done; nelves have some weaknesses such as their traditionalism but their biggest asset is their incredible ability at knowing the land and intelligence gathering. And to have them be beaten casually in their strongest field made so little sense. I think if they make it a slow burn to rebuild, you could do it in the Dragon isles unless they forget about them existing as soon as the exp is over. But I also agree that modern Kalimdor, the night elves were its soul. To lose that seems like a sad path to take, and it just removes a dynamic. Oh, also, in regards to the primalists... I'm keen to see, it could be a simple plot for Iridikron to wish the whole Titanic division undone from Dragons through altering the past, if he were altruistic, or it could be a more selfish goal... he gives more of a vibe as a team player to me still, though.
As a Night Elf main, all I really want is a new tree, immortality returned to the Night Elves, and a new home (I think the tree will be in the dream, blessed by the Aspects when they get their powers back and by the winter queen). So a new place to call home, their immortality back and then Tyrande and Malfurion can settle down with their people somewhere and then have no more lore for quite a while so we can focus on other races like the gnomes or something.
They're never getting immortality back lol, everything else fine. But I never get the idea that night elves deserve every good thing and never any bad. Belfs never got their immortality back for what the night elves did to them, they shouldn't get it back for what they caused. Imo.
Darkshore saw a lot of destruction, Ashenvale is back in their hands at least up to Atranaar, and they still control the mighty Feathermoon Stonghold in Ferelas. Nelves have not lost Kalimdor.
I love the idea that Iridikron actually made a deal with Moruzond. It would still link Iridikron to the Old Gods/Void through Moruzond, but thats a great idea, not "dull." The Old Gods corrupt everything. Iridkron should ve no exception. Moruzond hates the Titans, so it makes wat too much sense. This is the expansion where we should get the Nozdormu to Moruzond transformation, so at this point, nothing else makes sense.
Quite honestly, the lack of proper follow up to the burning of Teldrassil while it mattered kinda ruined the storytelling for me. There needed to be significant progress in the Night Elf story during BFA. But that didn’t happen nor enough in Shadowlands. But then technically we don’t know exactly what will happen in the story just yet.. only predictions. So far though the story has feel manufactured in DF and recent years, making it difficult to get immersed in.
i mean, the heaviest blow toward the night elf is one of pride aswell...their fanbase lost soo much and even blizzard do not respect them...but most likely it is so that this is to share..
The actual shadowlands themselves was pretty good IMO. Problem was is that the zones were in the shadowlands xpac. Also its quite obvious to me anyway that some titan beings just like the forces they served have a link with a different force. Elune is obviously life aligned but has a connection with the arcane and order hence lunar magic. Winter queen is death aligned but has a connection with life. Eonar is Order aligned but has a connection with life.
I whish they would do something with Azuremyst Isle i mostly play horde but one time i leveled alliance i loved the aesthetics and all of that in there. Even for some small quest line its always so new area based would be nice to go back to some old places from time to time.
As someone who has loved Night Elves since I started in Wrath, and a longtime RPer...I think this is the coolest option possible. What's more 'Kalimdor' than the Dragon Isles? The place most like what the original pangea Kalimdor was like? What's better than the most beautiful, lush place on Azeroth? The place closest to the Dream? The only issue I see is what you mentioned about Kalimdor being Horde controlled...but there's no more war, so who cares? We're all buds now. No saying the Night Elves haven't already moved back into the forests around Teldrassil's ruins - why wouldn't they? Wouldn't they still live in their ancestral lands, that way?
Lore-wise I guess you could argue its just all round safer, because I guess (as far as I know) Stormwind has no real foothold around there any more and with supposedly most of the Nelves dead it's likely better to be a bit closer to the rest of the Alliance boys.
My sentiments exactly. Have the Nelfs been through alot? Yes 100% but thats what a story is... ups and downs highs and lows. Is it perfect? No definitely not. But as a player of factions who have basically been forgotten ill take this Nelf treatment anyday. Front and center of many xpacs basically taking the lime light instead of humans. OR you know you can be like Belves and basically been forgotten for 10 years, lose all your windrunners and royalty. Be introduced into WoW basically at the position Nelfs are now, lose are core faction to the alliance and finally when LEGION comes around a type of energy that you people know instead of getting the lime light with nelves who had a new zone Valsharah you get relegated to 3rd place behind newer cooler looking NIGHT ELVES im mean BORNE who basically are a copy and paste of your story but cooler.
My guess is that the Tree won't be in Dragon Isles, but will be placed South of the Draenie Starting Islands... Would explain why they moved Kalimdor so far to the right on the new world map in DF. That they're making room for something Left of Kalimdor, likely Darnassus 2.0.
If the Night Elves get relocated to the Dragon Isles, the Forsaken should get kicked out of the Eastern Kingdoms completely, with Lordaeron going to the Alliance or Argent Dawn. The Draenei have already flown away from their crash site with the Exodar and Theramore is destroyed, so there is no Alliance presence in Kalimdor. Only Silvermoon is a problem, as it would make no sense to throw the Blood Elves out of the EK.
Just because the horde becomes the dominant power on kalimdor doesn't mean they have control of it. Those raving centaur and quillboar are still a problem to this day. It sure isn't really secure.
They really need to give the night elves their immortality back... The tree looks so cool. I find them transitioning to the Dragon Isles a refreshing touch. Becoming world tree caretakers as in wc3.
Getting their immortality back would be a big win to counteract all the losses, the problem is that it wasn't earned or built up towards in any meaningful way. It would just be a consolation prize for being effectively wiped out.
Nope. Their immortality was only because of protecting Nordrassil. They failed. Long life yes, immortal no. No other player race is immortal... It creates inherent imbalance
"this all sounds a bit bullish, but I guess they have 700 people (developers) now, so maybe it's possible?" -- a good rhetorical question to muse on. However, my worry is how many devs do they actually have, what with the reports of top-tier talent bleeding from the company? I wonder how much this number has decreased in the past 2-3 months. Probably at least a dozen or two devs have left, I'd guess, at a minimum, if not more. Who knows though.
Next expansion it would be cool if the new Night Elf starting zone is on Teldrassil post burning. If they do the world revamp they really need to either give the old capital cities relevence, or get rid of them. I would love a focus on Race for the World revamp exp. Intro for new players need an update. The island is cool but lets list off the zones that it made irrelevant. Um...all of them. Fix this Blizz. Activision are vampires, draining games for money and leaving emtpy carcasses. The game is bleeding. Dragonflight was an improvement but compared to current games is totally pathetic. Cant even make wheels on a cart turn.
With current patch cadence, I want 10.1-fire, 10.2-ice, 10.3-earth/infinite, 10.4 galakrond. Or maybe an old god raises galakrond and that spurs the return of Yrel
Just because the new World Tree is on the Dragon Isles, doesn't mean the night elves have to abandon Kalimdor. Feathermoon Stronghold in Feralas is still intact, and they could always rebuild their settlements in Darkshore and Ashenvale. At least I hope so, else shitty writing will succeed where Garrosh and Sylvanas failed.
It’s kinda funny how many WoW races are homeless drifters when you think about it. Draenei, Gnomes, Lorderonian and (until recently) Stromguardian humans, Gilneans, Blood Elves, Void Elves, Goblins, Orcs (Draenor->dark portal), Forsaken after BFA, trolls (surely some tribe has been evicted from ancestral land/city, I don’t remember), ….the night elves have joined the club.
They really need to put effort into restoring NE’s tree or better, or an on-demand portal to play a visionary continuation of it pre destruction that plays out as if never destroyed or something. I bet it ends up more popular than post destruction.
What about planting the seed in Silithus? Helping to mend the world by planting a big fuck off tree in the place of the wound. Nelfs were always there to fight the Silithids and Qiraji so why not make it a new Capital city? It's close to Un'goro and Feralas brimming with life
Here's my theory of the primalist, I think they're serving Azeroth the world soul. From Titans to the void, everyone has tried to use, manipulate and control Azeroth's world soul. I think she's had enough and wants to get rid of everyone that's trying to control her.
It's impossible to understate how badly Shadowlands damaged the story and lore of WoW. It's difficult to see how it could recover without some kind of actual reboot to retcon it out of there.
Easy the more they never bring it up the more we will forget about it. I’m lucky. I didn’t play more then 14 mins of shadowlands. But I’m cursed, for I know the damage that was done…time will tell adventures!
@@tharifus7219 There's just no coming back from a blunder like that. If you want to succeed in this field, you need to tell simple stories with complex characters. Instead they turned all of Warcraft - all of its existing lore - into a convoluted, nonsensical mess, headed up by an overly simplistic "I'm evil but only because there's something worse than me out there!"-villain that no one cared about or could relate to. You can't fix that. They made the active decision to go ahead with a ridiculous plot that stained all of what came before it.
See, I want Hyjal to be the main capital of the Elves. Canonically, the place has been purged of the Firelands taint since the destruction of Rag and the canonical years of time that have passed. This set up would allow for political in-fighting since you would have two parts of the Night Elf society split between which to make the formal capital. Some would want the safety and solace of a tree in the Dragon Isles, one that is literally off limits to everyone but those the Green Dragons and Alexstraza herself allow formally on the Isles. Yes, right now that is everyone flying a horde or alliance flag, but that doesn't have to be forever. And then you would have the purists, who push back against everyone having their fingers in the Hyjal pie after all these years. After the burning of Teldrissil, they have the right to take back what is rightfully theirs. Also, and I may be mistaken, weren't there already hints that quite a few Night Elves moved to Hyjal with some of their Gilnean allies and began to harass and harangue the Earthen Ring remnants still there? It would allow for good storytelling opportunities, and I can actually see this current Blizz story team doing this storyline, whereas I couldn't see this being done by the hamstrung Shadowlands team.
I have been wondering if the reason why they have uprooted night elves and it is closer to the emerald dream is because they want to make the emerald dream their TRUE new home with this place where they are planting the seed, the portal to it, for everyone not night elves, and then rebuild in the emerald dream. Tying into the next expansion. So, I'm glad this video touches up on that. Help them actually GROW and EXPAND rather than just fighting and struggling at all times. It may not be the WIN night elf fans want, but it is at least a way forward for them. Would be cool to actually see brand new and improved Night elf structures
"There would be almost no opportunity for faction storytelling on half the planet." Don't threaten me with a good time Bellular. After BFA no opportunity for faction storytelling on ALL of the planet seems like an optimal status quo.
Maybe the the roots of the new tree spread so deep that it basically revitalizes teldressil and restores darnassus. The next update/expansion is about the night elves retaking their homeland and driving the horde out. Anduin comes back from the shadowlands to see this conflict and the alliance becomes somewhat fractured throughout the expansion.
Maybe Iridikon will try to reverse time back to before the titans changed Azeroth and it will go Terribly wrong…. Interesting idea at the least. I think this also opens up some interesting possibilities for the 11th installment.
you didn't consider one thing there is the option that your home is in dragon island and you open a portal to the burnt down world tree and there as part of the night elves story reforest the large piles of ash off the coast great fire of the world tree a neu kapiet where night elves are reborn in the new tree and also new elves together with reborn rebuild their old homeland Connect them both through a unique dream portal so the new tree is home but the old one is the quest area
Can't put a like on this video because you said that winter is an unpleasant form that nature takes, which I completely disagree with. I love winter and it can be an absolutely majestic time, imagine Christmas atmosphere with lots of snow outside, watching Northern lights or going snowboarding. Otherwise you raised great points in the video and I agree that the roots of the night elves are on Kalimdor. I remember the ambient music that played in Ashenvale in vanilla/classic WoW, which to me is probably the best sounds in the whole of WoW, it creates the atmosphere so well - and I fully associate Ashenvale with the night elves, the same as I do with Azshara, Darkshore and Darnassus. Would be a great shame if night elves became disconnected from all that, and have a home next to the centaur and the plains, which I cannot fully associate with them.
I'd love for the night elves to get this future for them! And I don't understand what people are upset about. Even if it's just a tree and we possibly get the Dream back. I mean, every race evolve and adapt because the planet changes. It's natural. And who would feel good about not looking at the future instead of backwards? And they can't be stuck in the same old heartbreaking history they've gone through. It's called evolution.
There are plenty of destroyed zones on Azeroth, victims of ecological and geological disasters. So how to fix? If the Emeral dream are the blueprint then thease zones could be healed by their Emrrald dream equivalent overwrite these zones. Imagine Silithius how it was originally meant to be and you get the idea.
Unless the world tree isnt going to be the new night elf city and instead we get a new city near darkshore and hyjal and ashenvale and the new world tree isnt really a city like teldrassil.
it's really stupid to assume they'd just delete every night elf in the world and plonk a bunch in dragon isles and nowhere else, it could be a new hub without them abandoning everywhere else
If the Exodar doesn't count as an Alliance foothold on Kalimdor, then so doesn't Silvermoon, and so I ask what are the Horde's footholds on the Eastern Kingdoms?
the under city? Did you forget that at the end of shadowlands that they clared out all the blight and live there again with most of their old land back?
For me Elune is aligned with the Light, Life & Arcane/Order half of the cosmic map. She seems to have ties with & the powers related to them at any rate.
I think what a lot of wow fans are forgetting is that the main reason they burned the tree is because it's a low-poly N64 relic that is embarrassing to the game. I think long-term, the game will be updated with events like these.
This could be a start to the world revamp in the starting zones. Have part of the world tree and part of the emerald dream be the 1-10 zone for Night Elves and then make a portal for Darkshore when they reach level 10 and finish with the zone. It might not be Teldrassil but it could still be a good starting zone.
@@slide-bytim3762 Blizzard is loosing talent and they are struggling right now so it’s hard to tell on what they will and won’t care about. I do hope they focus on leveling and starting zone experiences in the future. It’s a mess and it’s deterring a lot of new players from even caring about the game.
You think that the emerald dream can't be a last patch... but they did that with the black empire in BfA... 10.3 will be the last patch with roundup season stuff.
I dont get why everyone say without teldrassil, the night elf have lost any footing, what about Feathermoon Stronghold, was said to be the second strongest nelf settlement after teldrassil and I belive it was retaken by shandriss during cataclysm(not sure if its updated in game tho..) Nevermind the fact that the highborn nelf are from feralas, same location as feathermoon stronghold, cant they retake their ancient highborn city? would make more sense really
I've been a fan of Night Elves since W3, I main a druid, I hope Blizzard really knocks it out of the park with what they're doing with this race. After all they've been through it's the least NEs deserve
Emerald dream was once such a mysterious place with night elf (and probably tauren) druids could go after a life long training... now any Gnome, Rogue and Pali can go there?
8:30 NO, they have their ORIGINAL home again, it's Mount Hyjal. In it's storyline for Cata, we get it to almost 100%, get the original crew of guardians back, and the champions of azeroth are upgraded to being it's guardians with them. BUT we all found out together that, Firelands and Ragnaros were syphoning that healing and after we took it down, Hyjal is back to full, AND the champions of azeroth are it's protectors.
Thrall's marriage was held there to consecrate it's return to full health. When the corrupted elemental gang of Deathwing gave their 'wedding' gift to azeroth by kidnapping Thrall. We save him, and the final patch of Cataclysm happens. They can return home -Mount Hyjal at ANY time, but a entire crew of 'lore' obviously haven't played the expansion content, or they'd know this.
What's happening now could still tie into all that.
I've been playing the Sentinel Tree content on my Druid alt (The world tree that we grew in the Firelands) and something I've never noticed before is how all the fire elementals around the portal to the Sentinel Tree's grove are all shadow-flame elementals, just like what we will be dealing with in the new subterranean zone, we're about to get.
And obviously, this all takes place at Mount Hyjal.
It would make sense to introduce the night elf heritage armour once the tree blooms
At this point in their story, if you put on the armor you'd drop dead or go missing or locked up or loose your powers. We can't have living powerful night elves anymore.
Who cares? SL "taught" us already that elune like all other pantheon "gods" is a badly designed robot from a 3D printer. Like all of them she is simply designed this way. All her personalit...all her powers. ....Another kick for the night elves culture 😢
@@Loh4984 I'm not too hung up on the robot gods. all things need to be made, whats it matter if they robots or flesh robots. They still have cosmic level powers and history.
With Elune specifily I'm more interested in SL's story thread of her involving herself in other worlds, but counting the Kaldori as her favorites.
@@Loh4984 Elune is not necessarily a 3D-printed robot. Pelagos wasn't before he became the Arbiter, so Elune and the Winter Queen may have been sisters before one of them became the Winter Queen.
WoW is dead and blizz are garbage
I'd really love Ashenvale to become the heart of Night Elf society, the zone is such a vibe and I miss adventuring there!
Couldn’t agree more, I miss that ambience so much
This zone was next to teldrassil the most "wow'ish" zone ever for me. The soundtracks and aesthetics gives me the heaviest nostlagia.
One of my favorite zones. Didn't love the damage cata did to it so would love a revamp to make this happen and make it more like the classic version.
My all time favorite zone!
Well honestly, it's about time the logging camp moved on
It's important to note that there's a portal to the Emerald Dream here, which connects it easily enough to the other Night Elf holdings in Ashenvale, Feralas and Val'sharah.
I would rather have them infuse the seed in Hyjal to reinforce the tree that was already healed. Not only that but it has the Well of Eternity right below it like… Hyjal was their seat of power and idk why that’s just not given back.
it's a stone's throw away from the seat of the Horde capitol. Them orcs have been harrassing them since they set up Orgimmar, chipping and chopping away at the Ashenvale forest. Even if there is peace at the moment, war can always return like it has every other expansion. You could say it would advantageous to set up near by but, after everything they've been through I think they'd want to be somewhere far away and safe.
Planting it by the green dragons, their greatest draconic ally RIGHT on their home turf is the best place to ensure safety. Anyone shows up to mess with that tree I doubt Ysera or Alexstrazsa would just sit by and let it happen.
Nordrassil is pretty small imo. Teldrassil is like a skyscraper compared to a literal tree in dimensions.
There's every reason why Hyjal is a bad idea. And if they could just redo Hyjal again, then it makes all the lore that happened in Hyjal pointless.
To begin with. Nordrassil has only one point of acces through land which is Winterspring which would make it pretty impossible to attack given that you have to go up the entire mountain all the way up to the World Tree.
Second, the Night Elves have a right to Kalimdor and to suggest they're better off in the isles because there's dragons in there is crazy. The dragons didn't aid during the Burning of Teldrassil, hell, they didn't even aid during the asault of the Legion besides the blues. The dragons do not have a faction affiliation and will remain that way. The true races connected with the Nelves are Mountain Giants, Dryads, and Grovekeepers, as shown in Warcraft III, NOT dragons.
Third, it's in their very name "KAL"'dorei. They are to remain in KALimdor, and not leave because the Horde cannot stop destroying everything they touch.
Again, the tree is completely healed, the remaining Well of the Eternity is in there too, there were even sprouts of Azerite during BfA and it also is linked with the dream. If they returned to Nordrassil from post-BFA up to now, I don't see why they should move out.
Too close to orcs and more war, you aren't thinking things through big guy.
I really, really, really hope they don't bring Elune into the narrative directly. Casting her as a malfunctioning space robot in Shadowlands absolutely devastated night elf lore.
Hate her character design too. They just really killed it with her character. I thought she would be more divine and then her story in SL…it’s so disappointing.
Kaldorei had mages for 5000 years before the sundering, and broke the troll and aqir empires with it, securing their place on Azeroth.
Malfurion and Tyrande are revolutionary leaders who outstayed their relevancy, banished and imprisoned the powerhouse of their culture and started the slow, 10000 year decline that we play in, today. I take one look at the Draenei, who embraced ALL magics, and think very not nice words about the two aforementioned yahoos, who would clearly prefer if the race went back to being [privileged] trolls. As a nightelf player, I'm not happy. But I'm not surprised. If Illidan, Maiev or even Azshara had been in charge, we would be in a different place.
9:48 I have seen that as the 'world peace settlement' for years now.
Honestly, I figured that both, the Horde losing Undercity/Ruins of Lordaeron, and the Alliance loosing the World Tree/Nordrassil, was really (besides storytelling) Blizzard simply removing the footholds so that the Horde gets all of Kalimdor, and the Alliance bet all of Eastern Kingdoms.
I'm really not OK with where they're taking the night elves. I wasnt ok with the "we're not going to kill her" angle with Sylvanas, and I'm not ok with this planting of the night elves in the dragon isles. I feel ZERO connection to the dragon isles. The story for me is getting so convoluted and so retconned that the story is unrecognizable anymore. Since Shadowlands I've been retreating more and more from WoW and with the night elf situation.... I'm really not sure how much more I can take from Blizzard
The tree should be in Kalimdor, or at least one of the trees/some big Night Elven city. Maybe with some zone update/redesign where they heal some of those damaged lands.
It never was said the tree would be in the dragon isles.
Trolls speaking to Night Elves "Frist time eh?" since the Elves evolved from Trolls it makes sense lol.
A "World Tree" that actually grows DEEP roots throughout Azeroth (or the Dream) and connects to every other World Tree would be neat. A connection that potentially, if slowly, rehabilitates Teldrassil would be nice to see too.
Plus a travel/transport network of some sort between them? There are, what, five world trees?
And another tree on the far side of Azeroth, question mark?
I like this idea. I never realized how many world trees there are in WoW after watching this video. I think one major tree connecting to all of them can be really cool like you said.
Remember Teldrassil was unsanctioned unblessed and corrupted. Let it's trunk rot in peace
there was a tree in the nightmare which is not present in azeroth. The one where that il'gynoth boss is.
Teldrasil got burnt to a crisp. However it could quicken the rejuvenation of nordrasil
@@bryanm255
Ashes are VERY nutrient rich.
I really want a home for the night elves grown out of the ashes pf Teldrasil. Not necessarily another tree but a home reborn from the ashes of their lost home. It fits both their old tenacity and their current renewal arc.
Cheesy? A little but this is World of "I am my scars!" Warcraft. A bit of cheese is fine
I think there is a huge possibility that you will get a whole new "island"
Would make sense to keep the Night Elves starting area/Capitol nearby their old one... And we have seen in DF that Kalimdor have been moved quite far to the Right.. So what exactly are blizzard making room for West of Kalimdor? :)
Seems odd that they're giving the Night Elves a "new tree" that will in fact be frozen in time and unavailable to anyone not playing dragonflight. Talk about the opposite of evergreen content.
It would be kinda funny if Vyranoth tries to freeze the new Nelf tree, acts like she's won, then it turns out being blessed by the Winter Queen lets it basically shrug it off, also it would be an interesting new direction for the nightelves to tie them in with the Nightfae, have them tied to both life and death
I really hope the heroic Ardenweald theme makes a return when this happens. It wasn't my favorite covenant, but damn that track was good.
saying "if they put the night elves into the dragon isle that'd make kalimdor horde only" is a silly argument, if that's how you feel, it already is horde only. the night elves and worgen are holed up in stormwind...
oh yeah lets also forget about the draenei...
I thinksthat Kalindor has a lot of places for the nelf to make a new home, maybe the new tree is just a way for Azeroth to be heal again, and Teldrassil can be restore, like Undercity and the help of the SL. I think horde is getting more good things, like the goblins and their city, and the worgens dont getting any, lets hope that this ends well, or many people are gonna be so disappoined. Tyrande already say it, we are so tired.
The lore will never recover with this team at the helm. Poor night elf mains. Horde commits genocide on an entire race and get complete control of the continent for it.
So, as a night elf main, I don't see a world tree in the dragon isles as an end to night elf culture. In fact, I see it as the opposite.
The night elves know how to traverse the dream.
There is a dreamway portal connected to the new trees location. And there are portals all over Azeroth.
I can easily see the night elves using the new tree as a home through witch they expand via the dreamways to settle all throughout Azeroth. Mobilising armies across the globe via the dream. Let the kultirans have their ships. The horde their airships. The night elves can strike from anywhere, covering miles in mere moments.
This could comfortably be a hint at a new age of power for the night elves.
I’ll never forgive the writers for marginalizing Malfurion for basically every damn expansion.
Being marginalized is better than forgotten, coughs in blood elf.
There is no coincidence that the storyline surrounding decay magic takes you across Azure Span to the northwesternmost point, as close as you can get to the new world tree spot without taking plot real estate from the green dragon area. I also really hope deathbound world tree + decay magic = proper exploration of the drust and thros
Makes sense, decay is part of the cycle of life and death. Decay produces nutrients for life to use and thrive.
Night elves went from a rabidly religious and xenophobic warrior society to anime waifus to incompetent, whiny emo goth wannabes over the span of the last 20 years.
Man, the phrase "maybe the Horde being a little bit penitent for their pretty significant role in destroying the whole area" has got to be the understatement of the year.
Just goes to show how pathetic they are. Instead of doing the smart thing and finishing their enemy off they're just going to let them live and fester so they can be attacked again.
I mean the Alliance also did some shit. Alliance started the war until blizz retconned it. They also sacked Dazar'alor.
@@apacalypsagon3758 That is how they are written to be. Same with the Alliance. Neither will ever finish off the other, it is a non-starter. There is a reason the faction conflict was largely put to rest.
The Teldrassil... Whatever happend here.
@@Arkancide more like writing a story half baked without ever really going balls deep. One side doesn't have to completely wipe out the other. The world's way bigger than the alliance or the horde. You can write about a group of orcs or elves without representing the whole team .
The problem with the rage of night elf players is this cinematic doesn't say where the tree is going to bloom. It was always known it was going to grow in the emerald dream and then be moved somewhere. It does not mention the tree will end up in the dragon isles. Two the night elves still have a heavy presence in kalimdor even without their home tree. They are still on mount hyjal healing Nordrasil. They still have a presence in Feralas and other places around Kalimdor. It is possible for night elves to live in different places on kalimdor even if the tree ended up being in dragon isles. They absolutely could make nordrisal their home.
When you realize the alliance and horde killed eachother so hard that they out did the ENTIRE THIRD WAR in ecological devastation in darkshore alone.
When you realize that the Forsaken used blight and destroyed the whole area*
And even attacked settlements with daggers infused with blight.
There was no dwarven, human or gnomish machinery in Darkshore. The Horde alone did that
Interesting perspective on the Night elves.... they've been through a lot and deserve something better than just a new tree.
Considering how important world trees are to nigh elf culture and what this tree is made off i think its much more than "just a new tree" lmao
you give an inch…
@@maxpowers4436 a tree and a shrubbery, final offer!
@@theZCAllen and add the head of Sylvanas, please. Thank you.
@@maxpowers4436 TWO trees!
So what you're saying is... Winter is... approaching!
One option which can be done is completely heal hyjal and make it their home? Abd in case if people want to take om the raid a timeway can be set like it was done for uldum
Sticking a new Night Elf tree in the Dragon Isles and basically throwing away the Alliance's most interesting race and its heritage is such a post-BfA Blizzard thing to do. This isn't *our* story. It's not even Warcraft's story. This is someone's "Happy-fell-good"-fanfic, and we're all being made to put up with it. Just like M+ and raiding isn't designed to suit the community, but to please Ion, the story is being written for the writers, not the community, and more so than the obvious lack of content, that's really the most scary thing about WoW's "new direction".
WoW has become the Ship of the Theseus, and at some point veteran fans are going to look at this, look back at Warcraft, Wrath or Mists and ask: "Wait up; what even is this game?"
Nightelves will see that way... Teldrassil is a HUSK. Darkshore is devastated. Ashenvale and Astranaar a graveyard. We see it that way right now! What did the Horde had to pay back? What did they had to surrender after they lost the last war they started? Oh yeah, they have a COUNCIL now, no more warchiefs. Fair enough. Isnt it?
You've been working crazy hard, Bellular. Remember to take care of yourself, too!
Yeah he need a total revamp of his body.dont won't be mean but he put a lot of extra weight true the years
Gotta love Blizz forgetting even their new lore that has the Night Elves re- settled on Mt. Hyjal. 🙄
i don't care what staring area Night elfs get as long as old Teldrassil will remain in game.
I refuse to accept any new area Night elfs get if old Teldrassil will be removed from the game.
I wonder what this means for night elves eternal life that was taken from them, they lost it when the last world tree was destroyed, this is basically an authentic world tree, not one grown from the stolen water of the well of eternity and planted canonically without the blessing of elune. this one is made from a seed of her tears and invigorated by the souls of night elves, then nurtured in the dream.
As a Tauren main for 16 years, i hereby invite the Night Elves to settle with us in Mulgore. Let us unite to drive the quilboar and Grimtotem from our lands, and sow the fresh seeds of a mighty new woodland realm. There amidst the mighty tries and windswept mesas, we may at last find the peace and and sanctuary our peoples deserve.
I don’t think Night Elves are Warcraft’s most unique race at all. They’re just wood elves from any generic fantasy RPG.
Dont put it past blizzard to go the easy route and make things dull because its easier for their simple story writing brains
I just hope that night elves get something for their own here, and not as a tool for the Alliance or Horde. I think out of all the bad prior, what makes it so frustrating is that the devs basically went "Which culture can we sacrifice for the Sylvanas/Anduin storyline" and from that perspective, whoever held Darnassus might even have been the best choice. But the way it was done; nelves have some weaknesses such as their traditionalism but their biggest asset is their incredible ability at knowing the land and intelligence gathering. And to have them be beaten casually in their strongest field made so little sense.
I think if they make it a slow burn to rebuild, you could do it in the Dragon isles unless they forget about them existing as soon as the exp is over. But I also agree that modern Kalimdor, the night elves were its soul. To lose that seems like a sad path to take, and it just removes a dynamic. Oh, also, in regards to the primalists... I'm keen to see, it could be a simple plot for Iridikron to wish the whole Titanic division undone from Dragons through altering the past, if he were altruistic, or it could be a more selfish goal... he gives more of a vibe as a team player to me still, though.
As a Night Elf main, all I really want is a new tree, immortality returned to the Night Elves, and a new home (I think the tree will be in the dream, blessed by the Aspects when they get their powers back and by the winter queen). So a new place to call home, their immortality back and then Tyrande and Malfurion can settle down with their people somewhere and then have no more lore for quite a while so we can focus on other races like the gnomes or something.
They're never getting immortality back lol, everything else fine. But I never get the idea that night elves deserve every good thing and never any bad. Belfs never got their immortality back for what the night elves did to them, they shouldn't get it back for what they caused. Imo.
"Unfortunate inclusion on the PTR." No, just Blizzard up to their usual marketing tactics.
I've always thought Feralas needs some love. It wouldn't be the worst choice for the new tree.
11.0 needs to be a world revamp. The cataclysm has gone on too long, and too many story threads need to be re-grounded in the core zones.
Darkshore saw a lot of destruction, Ashenvale is back in their hands at least up to Atranaar, and they still control the mighty Feathermoon Stonghold in Ferelas. Nelves have not lost Kalimdor.
They even started some footholds in Stonetalon Mountains in Cata
I love the idea that Iridikron actually made a deal with Moruzond. It would still link Iridikron to the Old Gods/Void through Moruzond, but thats a great idea, not "dull." The Old Gods corrupt everything. Iridkron should ve no exception. Moruzond hates the Titans, so it makes wat too much sense. This is the expansion where we should get the Nozdormu to Moruzond transformation, so at this point, nothing else makes sense.
Quite honestly, the lack of proper follow up to the burning of Teldrassil while it mattered kinda ruined the storytelling for me. There needed to be significant progress in the Night Elf story during BFA. But that didn’t happen nor enough in Shadowlands. But then technically we don’t know exactly what will happen in the story just yet.. only predictions. So far though the story has feel manufactured in DF and recent years, making it difficult to get immersed in.
i mean, the heaviest blow toward the night elf is one of pride aswell...their fanbase lost soo much and even blizzard do not respect them...but most likely it is so that this is to share..
The actual shadowlands themselves was pretty good IMO. Problem was is that the zones were in the shadowlands xpac.
Also its quite obvious to me anyway that some titan beings just like the forces they served have a link with a different force.
Elune is obviously life aligned but has a connection with the arcane and order hence lunar magic. Winter queen is death aligned but has a connection with life. Eonar is Order aligned but has a connection with life.
I whish they would do something with Azuremyst Isle i mostly play horde but one time i leveled alliance i loved the aesthetics and all of that in there. Even for some small quest line its always so new area based would be nice to go back to some old places from time to time.
I think a restored Dire Maul would be a better night elf capital city than ashenvale. It used to be a night elf fortress before the ogres invaded
As someone who has loved Night Elves since I started in Wrath, and a longtime RPer...I think this is the coolest option possible. What's more 'Kalimdor' than the Dragon Isles? The place most like what the original pangea Kalimdor was like? What's better than the most beautiful, lush place on Azeroth? The place closest to the Dream? The only issue I see is what you mentioned about Kalimdor being Horde controlled...but there's no more war, so who cares? We're all buds now. No saying the Night Elves haven't already moved back into the forests around Teldrassil's ruins - why wouldn't they? Wouldn't they still live in their ancestral lands, that way?
Lore-wise I guess you could argue its just all round safer, because I guess (as far as I know) Stormwind has no real foothold around there any more and with supposedly most of the Nelves dead it's likely better to be a bit closer to the rest of the Alliance boys.
It isn't even controlled by Horde, they were pushed all the way to Ccrossroads so I guess Kaldorei lands are still theirs.
My sentiments exactly. Have the Nelfs been through alot? Yes 100% but thats what a story is... ups and downs highs and lows. Is it perfect? No definitely not. But as a player of factions who have basically been forgotten ill take this Nelf treatment anyday. Front and center of many xpacs basically taking the lime light instead of humans.
OR you know you can be like Belves and basically been forgotten for 10 years, lose all your windrunners and royalty. Be introduced into WoW basically at the position Nelfs are now, lose are core faction to the alliance and finally when LEGION comes around a type of energy that you people know instead of getting the lime light with nelves who had a new zone Valsharah you get relegated to 3rd place behind newer cooler looking NIGHT ELVES im mean BORNE who basically are a copy and paste of your story but cooler.
My guess is that the Tree won't be in Dragon Isles, but will be placed South of the Draenie Starting Islands... Would explain why they moved Kalimdor so far to the right on the new world map in DF. That they're making room for something Left of Kalimdor, likely Darnassus 2.0.
@@Kbelikar well those lands are now wastelands, so I don't see why would an army be committed into defending them.
If the Night Elves get relocated to the Dragon Isles, the Forsaken should get kicked out of the Eastern Kingdoms completely, with Lordaeron going to the Alliance or Argent Dawn. The Draenei have already flown away from their crash site with the Exodar and Theramore is destroyed, so there is no Alliance presence in Kalimdor. Only Silvermoon is a problem, as it would make no sense to throw the Blood Elves out of the EK.
Just because the horde becomes the dominant power on kalimdor doesn't mean they have control of it. Those raving centaur and quillboar are still a problem to this day. It sure isn't really secure.
They really need to give the night elves their immortality back... The tree looks so cool. I find them transitioning to the Dragon Isles a refreshing touch. Becoming world tree caretakers as in wc3.
Getting their immortality back would be a big win to counteract all the losses, the problem is that it wasn't earned or built up towards in any meaningful way. It would just be a consolation prize for being effectively wiped out.
Ah, yes. Setting up in a place that no one's going to go once the expansion is over. 'Refreshing'.
immortality back in the form of wisps.
any other way would just be.. too much
No
Nope. Their immortality was only because of protecting Nordrassil. They failed. Long life yes, immortal no. No other player race is immortal... It creates inherent imbalance
The island near feathermoon stronghold would be a great spot for the world tree
"this all sounds a bit bullish, but I guess they have 700 people (developers) now, so maybe it's possible?" -- a good rhetorical question to muse on. However, my worry is how many devs do they actually have, what with the reports of top-tier talent bleeding from the company? I wonder how much this number has decreased in the past 2-3 months. Probably at least a dozen or two devs have left, I'd guess, at a minimum, if not more. Who knows though.
Next expansion it would be cool if the new Night Elf starting zone is on Teldrassil post burning. If they do the world revamp they really need to either give the old capital cities relevence, or get rid of them. I would love a focus on Race for the World revamp exp. Intro for new players need an update. The island is cool but lets list off the zones that it made irrelevant. Um...all of them.
Fix this Blizz. Activision are vampires, draining games for money and leaving emtpy carcasses. The game is bleeding. Dragonflight was an improvement but compared to current games is totally pathetic. Cant even make wheels on a cart turn.
iridikron opening the large bronze dragon door and the last raid is us following him trying to ressurect galakrond?
Has everyone forgotten about the Forgotten Coast? That is Night Elf Territory.
With current patch cadence, I want 10.1-fire, 10.2-ice, 10.3-earth/infinite, 10.4 galakrond. Or maybe an old god raises galakrond and that spurs the return of Yrel
Just because the new World Tree is on the Dragon Isles, doesn't mean the night elves have to abandon Kalimdor. Feathermoon Stronghold in Feralas is still intact, and they could always rebuild their settlements in Darkshore and Ashenvale. At least I hope so, else shitty writing will succeed where Garrosh and Sylvanas failed.
It’s kinda funny how many WoW races are homeless drifters when you think about it. Draenei, Gnomes, Lorderonian and (until recently) Stromguardian humans, Gilneans, Blood Elves, Void Elves, Goblins, Orcs (Draenor->dark portal), Forsaken after BFA, trolls (surely some tribe has been evicted from ancestral land/city, I don’t remember), ….the night elves have joined the club.
Please give access to updates on loot deliveries to non Patrons. I am still waiting on confirmation for my January loot.
Everyone always forget the Draenei zone in Kalimdor...
So nice ! The weekly reset brought something awful. Legion rogue mission from Griftah went from 1600g to 65g. What a f@cking drop !
They really need to put effort into restoring NE’s tree or better, or an on-demand portal to play a visionary continuation of it pre destruction that plays out as if never destroyed or something. I bet it ends up more popular than post destruction.
@Brumalia Works you didnt read nor understand what I just said. I play 18 different NE’s
What about planting the seed in Silithus? Helping to mend the world by planting a big fuck off tree in the place of the wound. Nelfs were always there to fight the Silithids and Qiraji so why not make it a new Capital city? It's close to Un'goro and Feralas brimming with life
When talking about Alliance faction footprint missing on Kalimdor, Undead also lost their footprint on the Eastern Kingdoms.
It'd be great if this replaced Darnassus and gave the Night Elves a canonical and in-game home again. But that's unlikely.
Here's my theory of the primalist, I think they're serving Azeroth the world soul. From Titans to the void, everyone has tried to use, manipulate and control Azeroth's world soul. I think she's had enough and wants to get rid of everyone that's trying to control her.
I don’t think that the alliance would abandon the Draenei.
It's impossible to understate how badly Shadowlands damaged the story and lore of WoW. It's difficult to see how it could recover without some kind of actual reboot to retcon it out of there.
Easy the more they never bring it up the more we will forget about it. I’m lucky. I didn’t play more then 14 mins of shadowlands. But I’m cursed, for I know the damage that was done…time will tell adventures!
@@tharifus7219 There's just no coming back from a blunder like that.
If you want to succeed in this field, you need to tell simple stories with complex characters.
Instead they turned all of Warcraft - all of its existing lore - into a convoluted, nonsensical mess, headed up by an overly simplistic "I'm evil but only because there's something worse than me out there!"-villain that no one cared about or could relate to.
You can't fix that. They made the active decision to go ahead with a ridiculous plot that stained all of what came before it.
@@henrikhumle7255 I agree with everything you just said and it makes me depressed that they butchered it like that.
See, I want Hyjal to be the main capital of the Elves. Canonically, the place has been purged of the Firelands taint since the destruction of Rag and the canonical years of time that have passed. This set up would allow for political in-fighting since you would have two parts of the Night Elf society split between which to make the formal capital. Some would want the safety and solace of a tree in the Dragon Isles, one that is literally off limits to everyone but those the Green Dragons and Alexstraza herself allow formally on the Isles. Yes, right now that is everyone flying a horde or alliance flag, but that doesn't have to be forever. And then you would have the purists, who push back against everyone having their fingers in the Hyjal pie after all these years. After the burning of Teldrissil, they have the right to take back what is rightfully theirs. Also, and I may be mistaken, weren't there already hints that quite a few Night Elves moved to Hyjal with some of their Gilnean allies and began to harass and harangue the Earthen Ring remnants still there?
It would allow for good storytelling opportunities, and I can actually see this current Blizz story team doing this storyline, whereas I couldn't see this being done by the hamstrung Shadowlands team.
Just let the night elves take back Dire Maul
I have been wondering if the reason why they have uprooted night elves and it is closer to the emerald dream is because they want to make the emerald dream their TRUE new home with this place where they are planting the seed, the portal to it, for everyone not night elves, and then rebuild in the emerald dream. Tying into the next expansion. So, I'm glad this video touches up on that. Help them actually GROW and EXPAND rather than just fighting and struggling at all times. It may not be the WIN night elf fans want, but it is at least a way forward for them. Would be cool to actually see brand new and improved Night elf structures
"There would be almost no opportunity for faction storytelling on half the planet." Don't threaten me with a good time Bellular. After BFA no opportunity for faction storytelling on ALL of the planet seems like an optimal status quo.
I want to see them heal darkshore, and build a massive capital right there. Try to honor Teldrassil in some way.
Haven’t been on the channel for sometime. Some chunky Bel!
Wdym Kalimdor left to the Horde? The Alliance has draenei on the Exodar isle. They still have a stronghold in Kalimdor
Maybe the the roots of the new tree spread so deep that it basically revitalizes teldressil and restores darnassus. The next update/expansion is about the night elves retaking their homeland and driving the horde out. Anduin comes back from the shadowlands to see this conflict and the alliance becomes somewhat fractured throughout the expansion.
Maybe Iridikon will try to reverse time back to before the titans changed Azeroth and it will go Terribly wrong…. Interesting idea at the least.
I think this also opens up some interesting possibilities for the 11th installment.
you didn't consider one thing
there is the option that your home is in dragon island and you open a portal to the burnt down world tree and there as part of the night elves story reforest the large piles of ash off the coast great fire of the world tree a neu kapiet where night elves are reborn in the new tree and also new elves together with reborn rebuild their old homeland
Connect them both through a unique dream portal so the new tree is home but the old one is the quest area
Fighting on the principle of building up one's homeland and heritage... perhaps this is also the impetus for night elf folk armor
Can't put a like on this video because you said that winter is an unpleasant form that nature takes, which I completely disagree with. I love winter and it can be an absolutely majestic time, imagine Christmas atmosphere with lots of snow outside, watching Northern lights or going snowboarding. Otherwise you raised great points in the video and I agree that the roots of the night elves are on Kalimdor. I remember the ambient music that played in Ashenvale in vanilla/classic WoW, which to me is probably the best sounds in the whole of WoW, it creates the atmosphere so well - and I fully associate Ashenvale with the night elves, the same as I do with Azshara, Darkshore and Darnassus. Would be a great shame if night elves became disconnected from all that, and have a home next to the centaur and the plains, which I cannot fully associate with them.
I'd love for the night elves to get this future for them! And I don't understand what people are upset about. Even if it's just a tree and we possibly get the Dream back. I mean, every race evolve and adapt because the planet changes. It's natural. And who would feel good about not looking at the future instead of backwards? And they can't be stuck in the same old heartbreaking history they've gone through. It's called evolution.
Wait until Blizz fucks up Elune. Night elves won't even have their Goddess anymore 😆
they did that already in shadowlands.
There are plenty of destroyed zones on Azeroth, victims of ecological and geological disasters. So how to fix? If the Emeral dream are the blueprint then thease zones could be healed by their Emrrald dream equivalent overwrite these zones. Imagine Silithius how it was originally meant to be and you get the idea.
Unless the world tree isnt going to be the new night elf city and instead we get a new city near darkshore and hyjal and ashenvale and the new world tree isnt really a city like teldrassil.
If they failed to give the NE a proper home AND make the emerald dream patch special for druids it would be a huge let down.
it's really stupid to assume they'd just delete every night elf in the world and plonk a bunch in dragon isles and nowhere else, it could be a new hub without them abandoning everywhere else
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I find it odd that noones mentioned that a world tree and portals to the dream being so close to *possible not confirmed* old god stuff...
If the Exodar doesn't count as an Alliance foothold on Kalimdor, then so doesn't Silvermoon, and so I ask what are the Horde's footholds on the Eastern Kingdoms?
the under city? Did you forget that at the end of shadowlands that they clared out all the blight and live there again with most of their old land back?
For me Elune is aligned with the Light, Life & Arcane/Order half of the cosmic map. She seems to have ties with & the powers related to them at any rate.
Fire is a good for rebirth, stuff grows fast after the fire is over, so hope that works too
I think what a lot of wow fans are forgetting is that the main reason they burned the tree is because it's a low-poly N64 relic that is embarrassing to the game. I think long-term, the game will be updated with events like these.
This could be a start to the world revamp in the starting zones. Have part of the world tree and part of the emerald dream be the 1-10 zone for Night Elves and then make a portal for Darkshore when they reach level 10 and finish with the zone. It might not be Teldrassil but it could still be a good starting zone.
Doubt they would make a new starting zone after exiles reach
Don't hold your breath.
@@slide-bytim3762 Blizzard is loosing talent and they are struggling right now so it’s hard to tell on what they will and won’t care about. I do hope they focus on leveling and starting zone experiences in the future. It’s a mess and it’s deterring a lot of new players from even caring about the game.
You think that the emerald dream can't be a last patch... but they did that with the black empire in BfA... 10.3 will be the last patch with roundup season stuff.
Did not see this coming as soon as 10.1. Hopefully this isn't impacted by the recent walk-out
I'd say anything post 10.2 and 11.0 content is mostly impacted.
nothing this year will be impacted. They've done most of the ground work for this stuff already
I dont get why everyone say without teldrassil, the night elf have lost any footing, what about Feathermoon Stronghold, was said to be the second strongest nelf settlement after teldrassil and I belive it was retaken by shandriss during cataclysm(not sure if its updated in game tho..) Nevermind the fact that the highborn nelf are from feralas, same location as feathermoon stronghold, cant they retake their ancient highborn city? would make more sense really
They didn't Retake Feathermoon Stronghold, they built a new Stronghold on the shore and named it after the old one.
@@TheInsanitor ah close enough i guess XD
I've been a fan of Night Elves since W3, I main a druid, I hope Blizzard really knocks it out of the park with what they're doing with this race. After all they've been through it's the least NEs deserve
night elves are moving on, if it is done good, it will be really nice to watch and see how the story will continue
Emerald dream was once such a mysterious place with night elf (and probably tauren) druids could go after a life long training... now any Gnome, Rogue and Pali can go there?