Sir, I'm learning about faceting (still don't have my machine) but your tutorial on the steps are just the best I've found so far. Thank you! Amazing work.
Superb final reveal this time. The background color was nearly perfect and the turntable was moving slowly enough that I could focus on the new gem. Bravo, Cliff!
Hi cliff, thnak you for your videos it helps me a lot. Today we have started this french star cut in our gems and gemology institute of pakistan. I have preform 4 pieces of glass for this cut. Your videos are very much helpful. I am also starting online Gemstones selling as we have Asia biggest Gemstones market in my city peshawar pakistan. Thank you once again
Another stunner Cliff. Looks like a precursor to today's princess cut style. I just love how you bring out the brilliance in any stone you cut. Beautiful work as always :-)
So excited to see this as I have been fortunate enough to purchase an ancient 1.12 carat french cut diamond and have been floored at the very few available on the market. It did come with a damaged corner, but had a master cutter repair and polish with beautiful results! Now to the ring design to complement the glorious chunky stone. Beautiful work!
I was just reading a book that mentioned this cut of diamond so I had to have a look, which is how I found you. What an absolutely beautiful cut. I love it. I applaud your skills, I wish I was talented at something so lovely. All that and I manage to be the 100th comment!💍💍💎💠
@@VintageTimeGems I love watching you take something that looks like it was kicked to the side of the road and turn it into an irreplaceable masterpiece.
Hi Cliff Excellent cut. Please could you feature some more 64 index cuts as I have an old lee lapidary mast with a 64 index wheel. There are not many designs in 64 index. Thanks
So the angles basically 'tether' the rest of the gem's dimensions/proportions? If so, i'd think that the mast should never move forward or backwards once the cutting began? I'm stuttering a little over how you know, other than constantly looking, when the depth of cut is correct...of course the facets have to meet too, but...if there are 'stop' and 'depth' gauges that can be used...from whence do you set and use those if you're not just 'feeling' and 'hearing' for proper cut? I guess i'd need to destroy a few stones to 'get it' I suppose.
Hi Cliff, Have you ever thought of faceting a piece of iron pyrite (fools gold)? I love your channel and watch very often and love all the tips and clues you give. Cheers!!
Very nice video and description of the faceting process. What is the material you cut, i must have missed that part, I was thinking Topaz. I have been cutting for 10 yrs and it is nice to watch your videos and compare your techniques with mine.
Gorgeous! I could just imagine french amethyst in a french cut diamond haha! Id love to try my hand at this! 4 main facet edges with 4 more exactly in between... it seems more achievable than some of the other shapes, but also, I love it more than some of the others if Im honest. Do you think this cut would translate well to a rectangle? Would it reflect light in a similar way or would it be too broad a facet and make it dead? You think I could gerry rig a square shaped brass pipe to act as all 4 of the main facets, and then use the flat edges and then the corners to align the facets? (I have next to no money or experience and am curious to try my hand at this to see if I like it before I spend $$$$
Great video, Cliff, once again! Jaws did an amazing job with the editing! Does that design in the book that you have come from the MDR machine? I have the same design in a book that goes with my old MDR machine from the 40s.
A few newbie subscriber questions: 1. How do you decide on the type of style you are going to cut? Does it have anything to do with the shape of the rough stone, or the quality? 2. Do you have a video where you show how you get the stone out of the compound? Great video!!
No it's not Sunstone....I deliberately left out the description of gem...I was hoping that the viewers may have been able to guess by the striations on the gem I faceted. A few guessed in the comments.
Hello Cliff. My name is Nicolas, a french trainee gem cutter. I am following your channel since a year. I am looking for "the book of gem cut". Is there a solution to get a copy of it? Best regards from south of France
@@VintageTimeGems I like old books and may be one day find this one. I keep searching. And thank you for your videos, very inspiring. I understand all your explanations. Amitiés
From the look of the rough pieces I guessed it was topaz and noticed you didn’t mention what the material you were faceting was. I wonder if older stones in that cut had problems with the square corners chipping while the jewelry was being worn.
I don't know how to speak French, but I can say, "Tres magnifique!" Just beautiful! And you even had a French atmosphere with Jaws!!! Does the faceting machine limit the depth of each facet? It seems that if one weren't paying attention, one would "polish" the facet all the way through the gemstone. Hope you understand this question.
Oddly enough, I've never had a problem with ghost facets while polishing. I use a DarkSide lap from Gearloose with either cerium oxide or 60k diamond battstik. Pre-polish, on the other hand, has been terrible for ghost facets, especially when doing tables.
I really like this cut. What was the name of the book you are cutting from as I would like to try it. Thank you Cliff and Jaws for another wonderful video!
How would this diamond be rated in the gem world? I know you started the video by saying that these diamonds were procured on a recycled market. Does that effect the value of the final product
It is no secret that the Western world treats murders that take place in the Eastern part of the world as a lesser evil. Nonetheless, crime is a crime no matter where it happens. Humans are humans regardless of their geographical location. A child is always a child; always deserving the best of treatment, no matter where he lives, or what race he belongs to. Therefore someone being killed in Aleppo is just as bad as someone being killed on a Manhattan avenue. But the reaction seems to change as the location, identity, language, race and religion change! The location shouldn’t determine if a person will be respected or not. Nor should it decide if a child is going to be treated like a child, or if he is going to be forced to run for his life and scavenge for food. Regrettably, as you move from the affluent parts of the world to less privileged places, or more specifically, from the Western world to the Eastern world, human life begins to lose importance and starts to turn into statistics. Most of the time, horrible events happening in these places are perceived in the Western world as nothing more than hazy background news. This is the reason why a terror attack in Paris draws world leaders to a major rally, while another attack in Istanbul, one that is incomparably more violent, is barely covered. This indifference and hypocrisy seem to affect not only politicians but the media and regrettably, a majority of the people as well. This is particularly surprising considering that new generations have grown up with powerful rhetoric on the importance of human rights, democracy and equality and were supposedly well-equipped against the scourges of racism and violence. Indeed, painful discrimination and cringe-worthy bias persists without any allowance for women, children or the elderly. The situation is so severe and so distressing that one prime minister can call the refugees “swarms”, while another political leader poses in front of a picture of refugees, promising to stop them. In other words, the so-called civilised, modern, democratic part of the world displays a shockingly insensitive attitude and appalling bigotry. It is as if there is a mutual silent agreement: “Shut your eyes, close your ears and pretend this is not happening. Ten years later, we’ll say we will never let this happen again”. After all, it happened before. When the Rwandan genocide and the Bosnian massacres happened, the people in a position to help were quiet, but today they vehemently insist “they will never allow it to happen again”. Yet again today, children die, women are hurt and the elderly are abandoned to the streets. This indifference will no doubt be a dark, indelible mark on the pages of history. Furthermore, this time, it will not be like the WWI or WWII. The perpetrators of the unspeakable crimes of the past usually got away with their evil activities. There weren’t cameras, embedded journalists, smart phones or Internet. There was no Twitter or Periscope. However, the unspeakable crimes of the modern day are happening in plain sight, caught live by cameras. You can find thousands of videos showing how refugee children are being targeted in Europe by human traffickers, how children starve in Syria, how refugees drown in seas but still are shown no sympathy. In other words, for the people of today, “unawareness” cannot be an excuse. It is always an important thing that a person gets hurt, tortured, or killed. If you imagine yourself or someone you love as the person getting hurt, you would understand that it is most assuredly quite important. Human life, human dignity and human rights are always important. Choose not to be one of those people that have been desensitised by the developments in the world. Don’t accept losing your humanity. Continue to be shocked, continue to oppose all that is wrong and do everything in your power to help stop crimes. Don’t let the apathy of others hold you back. It is entirely possible that the sensitivity shown by you will help propel other people into action. Don’t forget, every society needs someone to take the lead because not everyone will have the courage to do the right thing. But once someone steps up, others will invariably follow. Your efforts, which could be something as simple as a small social media post on love, will definitely make a difference.
This is an incredible art, it boggles my mind to see how even tiny stones are faceted and polished. Kudos to you! 👌👌👌
Sir, I'm learning about faceting (still don't have my machine) but your tutorial on the steps are just the best I've found so far. Thank you! Amazing work.
Superb final reveal this time. The background color was nearly perfect and the turntable was moving slowly enough that I could focus on the new gem. Bravo, Cliff!
In all my years of selling fine jewelry, I'd never heard of that cut before! Lovely! And Jaws is adorable! ❤
Thanks Mary Lou.
Hi cliff, thnak you for your videos it helps me a lot. Today we have started this french star cut in our gems and gemology institute of pakistan. I have preform 4 pieces of glass for this cut. Your videos are very much helpful.
I am also starting online Gemstones selling as we have Asia biggest Gemstones market in my city peshawar pakistan. Thank you once again
So beautiful Cliff, so nicely done and fun to watch!
Glad you enjoyed it
Another stunner Cliff. Looks like a precursor to today's princess cut style. I just love how you bring out the brilliance in any stone you cut. Beautiful work as always :-)
Thank you. I enjoyed faceting this style of cut. I may have to try a rectangle one day.
So excited to see this as I have been fortunate enough to purchase an ancient 1.12 carat french cut diamond and have been floored at the very few available on the market. It did come with a damaged corner, but had a master cutter repair and polish with beautiful results! Now to the ring design to complement the glorious chunky stone. Beautiful work!
Your skills are very well developed! Amazing result!
I would love see you faceting a dodecahedron one day :)
Great video cliff! Can you certify them just for fun
Very nice. I wonder why this cut isn't used more often, it'd deserve it! Thanks for bringing it back.
Certain designs come in and out of fashion.
love your videos they make my day wen i see a new one more relaxing learning gem cuttings
Thanks....I'm glad you enjoyed this video. Regards Cliff
That looks amazing im gonna try that french cut my friend
I'd love to sit in your workshop so I could watch and listen to you as you create these master pieces.
Have you ever taught anybody to facet??
Yes. I Currently teaching a member of my gem club to facet.
@@VintageTimeGems Do you have any videos of you teaching them??
I was just reading a book that mentioned this cut of diamond so I had to have a look, which is how I found you. What an absolutely beautiful cut. I love it. I applaud your skills, I wish I was talented at something so lovely. All that and I manage to be the 100th comment!💍💍💎💠
Great job Cliff. You are a master of your craft. Love this design.
Thanks Ian. Cheers Cliff
Beautiful, as usual.
Thanks Craig
@@VintageTimeGems I love watching you take something that looks like it was kicked to the side of the road and turn it into an irreplaceable masterpiece.
Very impressed
Thanks
Very nice I like to tell you that you are the perfect French Damon thank you very much
Thank you too!
I love love love this cut!!!
Master cutter no doubt!
Amazing ❤
Hi Cliff
Excellent cut. Please could you feature some more 64 index cuts as I have an old lee lapidary mast with a 64 index wheel. There are not many designs in 64 index.
Thanks
Ficou perfeita essa lapidação.😍😍Qual é o nome do diagram faceting?Saudações aqui do Brasil
So the angles basically 'tether' the rest of the gem's dimensions/proportions? If so, i'd think that the mast should never move forward or backwards once the cutting began? I'm stuttering a little over how you know, other than constantly looking, when the depth of cut is correct...of course the facets have to meet too, but...if there are 'stop' and 'depth' gauges that can be used...from whence do you set and use those if you're not just 'feeling' and 'hearing' for proper cut? I guess i'd need to destroy a few stones to 'get it' I suppose.
Cutting to depth is all about practice. When winding down it will always hit a hard stop.
are these rough gem diamonds? i did not expect diamonds to be tumble smoothed so much.
Ever since Jaws has come back the video quality has gone through the roof lol
Lol....Jaws will want a pay rise....
Clearly it was a videography boot camp
Hi Cliff, Have you ever thought of faceting a piece of iron pyrite (fools gold)? I love your channel and watch very often and love all the tips and clues you give. Cheers!!
Welcome back Jaws
Thanks Kody....
Very nice video and description of the faceting process. What is the material you cut, i must have missed that part, I was thinking Topaz. I have been cutting for 10 yrs and it is nice to watch your videos and compare your techniques with mine.
Hello Sr. That transparent disc is methacrylate ?
Gorgeous! I could just imagine french amethyst in a french cut diamond haha! Id love to try my hand at this! 4 main facet edges with 4 more exactly in between... it seems more achievable than some of the other shapes, but also, I love it more than some of the others if Im honest.
Do you think this cut would translate well to a rectangle? Would it reflect light in a similar way or would it be too broad a facet and make it dead?
You think I could gerry rig a square shaped brass pipe to act as all 4 of the main facets, and then use the flat edges and then the corners to align the facets? (I have next to no money or experience and am curious to try my hand at this to see if I like it before I spend $$$$
What sort of rough stone are you doing the French Cut on?
I was wondering the same thing until I saw "angles for quartz" on the diagram.
that is topaz
@@JLards Yep spot on.
Great video, Cliff, once again! Jaws did an amazing job with the editing! Does that design in the book that you have come from the MDR machine? I have the same design in a book that goes with my old MDR machine from the 40s.
Thank you. No this design came out of a book I own, not with the machine.
I’m assuming that is alluvial topaz? From ancient river channels deep underground? True?
A few newbie subscriber questions:
1. How do you decide on the type of style you are going to cut? Does it have anything to do with the shape of the rough stone, or the quality?
2. Do you have a video where you show how you get the stone out of the compound?
Great video!!
The shape of the rough often determines the type of cut.
Watch "how to cut gemstones -quartz" I show how the glue is removed.
Thanks for the video what a beautiful stone what material did you cut is it clear sunstone?
No it's not Sunstone....I deliberately left out the description of gem...I was hoping that the viewers may have been able to guess by the striations on the gem I faceted. A few guessed in the comments.
Hello Cliff. My name is Nicolas, a french trainee gem cutter. I am following your channel since a year.
I am looking for "the book of gem cut". Is there a solution to get a copy of it?
Best regards from south of France
Hello, some of these old books are hard to find. I'd keep searching on the net for a copy. All the best. Regards Cliff
@@VintageTimeGems I like old books and may be one day find this one. I keep searching.
And thank you for your videos, very inspiring. I understand all your explanations.
Amitiés
I want to see a french cut parti sapphire of blue teal and green. I also want to see a mixed cut of French cut pavilion and sugarloaf crown/table
From the look of the rough pieces I guessed it was topaz and noticed you didn’t mention what the material you were faceting was. I wonder if older stones in that cut had problems with the square corners chipping while the jewelry was being worn.
Linda demais amigo essas gemas perfeitas.
Thank you
Very lingual these topáazes parabens!
I enjoy watching your videos well explained when cutting. I have a question got a goshenite what would you polish it with.
So how much would a rough diamond like this cost?
This seems like a fairly simple cut. Would you recommend this for beginners? Also what stone would you recommend beginners to use as a practice stone
Quartz is popular and inexpensive
A "round brilliant" is a good beginners cut.
It is unclear from the video what kind of gem you use for faceting - is it quartz?
I don't know how to speak French, but I can say, "Tres magnifique!" Just beautiful! And you even had a French atmosphere with Jaws!!!
Does the faceting machine limit the depth of each facet? It seems that if one weren't paying attention, one would "polish" the facet all the way through the gemstone. Hope you understand this question.
Hello Jo. Yes the height adjuster on the metal pole limits the depth of each facet. Also, you can over polish a facet....
Oddly enough, I've never had a problem with ghost facets while polishing. I use a DarkSide lap from Gearloose with either cerium oxide or 60k diamond battstik. Pre-polish, on the other hand, has been terrible for ghost facets, especially when doing tables.
Tends to happen when you use the cheater.
Hocam yine çok eğitici bir vidyo olmuş ..ellerinize sağlik.. bir gün TÜRKİYE den ZULTANİT taşı videosuda cekersiniz... Saygılarimla 🤗
Thank you Hakan.
That’s looked like clear quartz, but you didn’t use cerium oxide, but diamonds dust instead. So can you cut and polish quartz this way?
It's not quartz.
Dear Cliff, where can I buy this book?
You may have to do a search. Not sure where it is available.
Do you ever cut stones for people? I have some stones im looking to have faceted but need to find someone that knows what they are doing.
I just facet for enjoyment...Too many things can go wrong with consignment gem cutting.
I really like this cut. What was the name of the book you are cutting from as I would like to try it. Thank you Cliff and Jaws for another wonderful video!
It called - "THE BOOK OF GEM CUTS" Vol 1 By Jack Alger (1971 edition)
Thank you Cliff!
@ 12:38 😊
How would this diamond be rated in the gem world? I know you started the video by saying that these diamonds were procured on a recycled market. Does that effect the value of the final product
From what I've seen older gems faceted in the 18th century have more collectors value, particularly in it's original setting.
Hi
What kind of rough stone is it?
Altandush Sagvaa I have the same question ha ha
Top
Is that stone a real diamond?
No...It's topaz.
I find it strange that with so few of cuts it seams to have thousands of cuts
It's the refraction of light via the step cuts on the pavilion that creates that effect.
oo lala!
Dear Cliff , intereste !
you mentioned Diamonds and Jaws went on high alert
I think my wife also went into a frenzy also Ray....
It is no secret that the Western world treats murders that take place in the Eastern part of the world as a lesser evil. Nonetheless, crime is a crime no matter where it happens. Humans are humans regardless of their geographical location.
A child is always a child; always deserving the best of treatment, no matter where he lives, or what race he belongs to. Therefore someone being killed in Aleppo is just as bad as someone being killed on a Manhattan avenue. But the reaction seems to change as the location, identity, language, race and religion change!
The location shouldn’t determine if a person will be respected or not. Nor should it decide if a child is going to be treated like a child, or if he is going to be forced to run for his life and scavenge for food.
Regrettably, as you move from the affluent parts of the world to less privileged places, or more specifically, from the Western world to the Eastern world, human life begins to lose importance and starts to turn into statistics.
Most of the time, horrible events happening in these places are perceived in the Western world as nothing more than hazy background news. This is the reason why a terror attack in Paris draws world leaders to a major rally, while another attack in Istanbul, one that is incomparably more violent, is barely covered. This indifference and hypocrisy seem to affect not only politicians but the media and regrettably, a majority of the people as well.
This is particularly surprising considering that new generations have grown up with powerful rhetoric on the importance of human rights, democracy and equality and were supposedly well-equipped against the scourges of racism and violence.
Indeed, painful discrimination and cringe-worthy bias persists without any allowance for women, children or the elderly. The situation is so severe and so distressing that one prime minister can call the refugees “swarms”, while another political leader poses in front of a picture of refugees, promising to stop them.
In other words, the so-called civilised, modern, democratic part of the world displays a shockingly insensitive attitude and appalling bigotry. It is as if there is a mutual silent agreement: “Shut your eyes, close your ears and pretend this is not happening. Ten years later, we’ll say we will never let this happen again”. After all, it happened before.
When the Rwandan genocide and the Bosnian massacres happened, the people in a position to help were quiet, but today they vehemently insist “they will never allow it to happen again”. Yet again today, children die, women are hurt and the elderly are abandoned to the streets.
This indifference will no doubt be a dark, indelible mark on the pages of history. Furthermore, this time, it will not be like the WWI or WWII. The perpetrators of the unspeakable crimes of the past usually got away with their evil activities. There weren’t cameras, embedded journalists, smart phones or Internet. There was no Twitter or Periscope. However, the unspeakable crimes of the modern day are happening in plain sight, caught live by cameras.
You can find thousands of videos showing how refugee children are being targeted in Europe by human traffickers, how children starve in Syria, how refugees drown in seas but still are shown no sympathy. In other words, for the people of today, “unawareness” cannot be an excuse.
It is always an important thing that a person gets hurt, tortured, or killed. If you imagine yourself or someone you love as the person getting hurt, you would understand that it is most assuredly quite important. Human life, human dignity and human rights are always important.
Choose not to be one of those people that have been desensitised by the developments in the world. Don’t accept losing your humanity. Continue to be shocked, continue to oppose all that is wrong and do everything in your power to help stop crimes.
Don’t let the apathy of others hold you back. It is entirely possible that the sensitivity shown by you will help propel other people into action.
Don’t forget, every society needs someone to take the lead because not everyone will have the courage to do the right thing. But once someone steps up, others will invariably follow.
Your efforts, which could be something as simple as a small social media post on love, will definitely make a difference.
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The music is a crime against humanity.
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Great vid. Music not so much.