I wish fanboys would stop arguing. You get what you pay for. If you want 4K, get a PC. If you want improved resolution and performance over current consoles, get the One X or the Pro. If you prefer Playstation, get the Pro. If you prefer Xbox, get the X. Of course the X is going to be better than the Pro. You get what you pay for but the Pro is still a good improvement in alot of games over the base PS4 so it is still worth an investment. Same with the X. Whilst neither will do true 4K in all games, they both remain the best way to experience games on the PS4/Xbox family. So buy and enjoy your piece of plastic.
JNNNK Pro is cheaper because its weaker, VR is a stupid gimmick, and arguing that the PS4 Pro has better exclusives is an OPINION not a fact, nice try though.
@TheMadPolarBear The X does do 4k stop spreading fud. "If you want 4K, get a PC. If you want improved resolution and performance over current consoles, get the One X or the Pro." Oh give me a damn break! Is it really that hard hard to speak the truth? Will it kill you to say the X1? If someone wants improved resolution and performance in a console then there's only one to get and that's the X1. Period! You're a fraud! Pretending to be neutral. smh
@wobblypops46 The Xbox One X as I said, offers improved performance. It will not do native 4K in all games as already shown with the launch X enhanced titles. I own a One X right now and for the price, the improved performance is good for Xbox fans. Look at Halo 5, Assassins Creed Origins etc. It is doing the same dynamic resolution and will likely do checkerboard rendering in the future. The point is, it's a good machine but the situation has not changed. If you truly want native 4K, the only option will be a PC. If you want the improvements that the One X and PS4 Pro bring, then by all means, they are good machines and great for fans of the Playstation and Xbox family.
Have to say, this channel is becoming one of my favourites. I love the game review / comparison. At first I thought you guys were a bunch of old fuzz balls, but you's are actually pretty awesome :)
@@jesseshaver2262 yeah it's the cpu. These 8th gen systems were outdated the day they launched. They have the fx8120 cpu, which was first used in 2011 in laptops. Yes, these consoles use laptop CPUs from 2011. They are so weak its laughable. And guess what, the pro versions also use the same CPUs.
This game on ultra at 60fps is stunningly beautiful. Pretty CPU heavy in the cities but I am really happy with it so far. When I move up to 4k I will be shooting for actual 4k, not checkerboarding.
Marginal differences. Who does really think about this when playing? This is an awesome game on any platform. I own an XBOX ONE X, so I am happy with the extra power and all, but if I had a PS4PRO or a high-end PC, I would enjoy the game anyway. Great analysis, guys. It is interesting to dwell on the technical aspects like pixel counting, draw distance and world shadows. But again, little differences that shine in some specific locations (HDR in tombs and caves are eye-openers) but do not affect the gaming experience overall.
Carles MR thats what i said when it was going down between the regular xbox one and play station 4,that the diffetence was small some couldnt even notice but they kept throwing fuel to the fire and now we a new console every 3 years
I dont know how many of you guys work on this channel, But I have been binge watching your channel today, after seeing atleast 15 videos, I just want to say well done guys, and thank you for putting in the work for us to see the comparisons.
Because the Pro was a mistake. Way smaller improvement than the One X. Way less support than the One X, even though it came out a year earlier. And for 100USD less...yet it doesnt even have a 4K blu ray drive that Sony made? Yeah I dont see how any of those facts are fanboy opinions.
Quantum Witcher Why is it such a common misconception that Sony invented it? Yes they joined the group of companies that devloped it including Philips and others but you don't hear people say Philips invented the blue ray. And now blue ray is it's own division with a board of directors from many companies including Microsoft and Sony.
Even if they gave it a 1080p option, the GPU isn't the issue here. It's the CPU. It even struggles to get a stable 60FPS in linear games. Open world games just destroy it.
The PC version never received HDR guys, even Ubisoft stated that they have no intention of implementing it on PC. False advertising since, as you stated, HDR were supposed to be added to "all platforms".
PC has a massive stuttering problem especially during cutscenes (even with a GTX 1080ti, an i7 6700k, 16 GB RAM installed on an SSD with newest drivers 388.13 and the current patch version 1.03).. Why they didn't talk about this in the video is beyond me..
Again..... fantastic work guys! You guys are the best in the business. Looks like the game looks amazing on all systems. Happy days for everyone! Personally, I'm playing it on the X and it is simply amazing. Ubi completely nailed this one. Game is a gem.
Can you guys make a video explaining all the jargon you guys say, so that we can understand what you're talking about. Also show examples of the stuff like ambient occlusion. Whatever that is. It would be really helpful! Thank you and keep up the great work! I love these vids even though I don't understand everything you guys are talking about. :)
I noticed that in the, "gear," option screen that the crafting upgrade pictures were at 1080 resolution, while the Ranged, melee, outfit, and shield were in 4k
Sindhu Baskoro METRO footage at E3 was also. The developer stated that the X console was on stage and turned on but the footage came from a PC. Now Origins was on PC at what they guessed it would look like on Xbox X. It really should be illegal.
Everything at E3 runs on a PC! ROFL! Remember uncharted 3 trailer? Even had a PS4 on the stage PMSL! With fake wires and everything! With a PC hidden behind the curtain! Still millions sold on pre-order! You tell a sheep the same thing for long enough, the sheep will eventually agree.
Compairing a $500 GPU to a $500 fully working Console. Doesn't seem legit. You get what you pay for. Getting these much pixels for just $500 is amazin value. PC gaming is expensive and will always be.
You know that's actually a given? It's possible to compare things without factoring in price. The Xbox One X is more expensive than the Pro, so by your logic they shouldn't be comparing them either. The PC is there as the benchmark to show what true 4k looks like.
William Fenton Xbox One X is way faster than PS4 Pro, so it justfies its price difference. Where as PC gaming, at least for me in my country, doesn't justify it's price compared to consoles.
1983Dave1983 This is a console video? Um, this video is about AC Origins. Not to mention DF is mainly a PC channel covering consoles only when they release.
Hey Digital Foundry, What were the Pc-specs you guys used to run the game at full native 4K in this video? I mainly refer to the gpu and cpu. And could u reach solid 60fps while running the game at 4k with highest settings? Thx for an answer. (And sorry for bad english. I'm german)
- Ubisoft: "We are going to implement DRM because it stops pirating" - Ubisoft 2014: "Well ehm... it turns out it doesn't stop pirating" - Ubisoft 2017: "Maybe if we put DRM on top of some more DRM... maybe that would work... screw the performance of people that actually buy our products..."
As someone that buys pretty much all consoles I sold my xbox one when they cancelled Scalebound.. What is the point of a console with almost no exclusives? Even the failed Wii U had great 1st party games..
I️ love how serious these videos are with the added commentary. Digital Foundry does great work but let’s be honest video games and current hardware (Xbox One X, PS4 Pro and PC) all are able to present these games with great detail. If you’re on console you’re getting great value. If you’re on PC you’re enjoying higher FPS and native resolutions. We are at 4K gaming in 2017 guys. Consoles are doing it too. This is a big deal and great news. With new hardware coming out in the next couple of years it should be a minimum of 60 FPS for even consoles. What’s next 8k? Lol come on we are in a very unique time period. No matter what you play just have fun.
I guess the brewing deliberation now is the authenticity of Microsoft's claims concerning native 4k and the even less palpable 60 frames per second. There is no doubt this is a more powerful machine than the PS4 Pro, as one would expect given the time allotted between both releases. But the superfluous claims and advertised quality were delivered with absolute certainty and the results have fallen short of that. As many of the more astute oberservers have mentioned: native 4k/60fps is still jarringly taxing on a current high end PC containing a 1080ti. At no point did it even seem remotely possible for them to truncate the performance cost of a $1500 PC to $500. However we now suspect them to have used a PC to showcase their games at E3 as I'm sure they suspected a less discerning audience and an even less informed consumer.
The key point here is software, it is questionable however that’s the beauty of one of the most power software companies in the world. This is all new technology and it doesn’t matter as long as the performance is solid and the graphics are great why try to nit pick it is all I am saying. It’s been long overdue for Microsoft to recover from the Balmer and prior president of the Xbox divisions departure of Microsoft for Phil spencer and satya and Nadella to get the Xbox one where it needs to be. Now that it’s there people still want to hate on it and find any flaw they can, it’s so petty to focus on the negative, why can’t we just focus on a great product and enjoy it. Gaming and technology is so much like politics it’s crazy.
Lots of these comments give the impression that people are trying to justify buying the One X. If you like it and it's worth it to you, then why are you trying to justify it? Taking jabs at an older system (PS4 Pro) is hardly justifying the One X. It's rather silly. People with high-end PCs can say the same about the One X. As a filthy casual, I'm pleased with my PS4 Pro. I like it. I am sure if I had a One X I would like that, too. Once games are optimised for the One X I am sure I'll be envious. For now, though, just relax. That's the purpose of gaming anyway.
Rhys Roberts I get what you are saying man, I really do. It upsets me how a new war has started. But in Xbox users Defence ffs how long did you Sony users mock our 900p Xbox one despite the fact all the games were in 1080p. Why can’t we now have our turn at mocking Sony users? It’s seems unfair that we have to be respectful to you guys, then as soon as you get an upgrade, it’s straight onto let’s bully the Xbox users. But again, I get what you mean
I won't stop you from having a go at PS4s. I'm just saying that people who have bought the One X and are trying to justify their purchase need to relax. It's not about what other people think of it. If you bought a One X and you enjoy it - you think it's worth the money - then what's the problem? A bunch of faceless people on the internet judging you is hardly important. Justifying it like they have been in this comment section gives me the impression that, to them, it wasn't worth it.
sounds to me like ubi didn't even try to optimize for the pro which dissapoints me... they easily could have made it at least 1800p res and the X at 2160p through checkerboard and it would have looked better. checkerboard is the best solution for rendering for efficency IMO and allows for better looking games.
i dont think ps4 pro can do 1800P in this game, i'm not sure about what the X could do better if it could do better maybe higher anisotropic filtering and better ambient occlusion sampling but im not sure given how the game samples out of its render. typical ubisoft game code tends to be more demanding to hardware than it should be given what it is. i dont like checkerboard scaling.. have played with PS4 pro a lot with my buddies, ill stick with native resolution, just waay sharper, i dont care what anyone says... the thing a lot of people dont mention or fail to realize is when you scale images up, regardless of what method you use, any extra filtering, like anti aliasing, anisotropic for examples are not sampled at the output resolution, but instead sampled at the lower res.. this is a major annoyance when antialiasing is using temporal method since temporal uses reduced scaling method to blur edges... yes im a PC gamer, but i'm not an elitist, i'm open and welcoming for console gamers to experience better visual fidelity that we have... but not sure when that will be a thing, seems 4K is achievable but given weaker CPUs all consoles have, heavy filtering or higher frame rate isn't going to be a thing apparently.. like most games that are "patched" for higher console still use 8X anisotropic filtering, which is obnoxious since 16X looks better, especially at awkward angles and doesn't tax hardware any extra.. then ambient occlusion which for most part on consoles even pro and X are seeing reduced settings like SSAO or completely disabled.. and it kills the ambience if you played the same game on a PC using HBAO+.. sure some games make it little more demanding to use HBAO depending how its sampled, but usually only like 2-5% at most and worth it for the extra eye candy.. and other things that are more demanding and understandable why consoles will never touch them like enhanced godrays and such..
Microsoft has said that Devs are free to use the hardware however they want, they do not have to hit native 4K if they desire graphics over resolution.
xGeoThumbs You are right. They are free to use it however they want. However, I don't think they would restrict Xbox X intentionally. It clearly can't hit true 4k native in this game. The machine isn't powerful enough.
So according to this video, MS lied at the Assassins creed showing because they said it was running on the X at 4k but it was really running on a PC at 4k. Now that the actual game is out on the console it's running below that. Didn't they say "no compromise". This is the reason why I'm waiting to see if the X is going to be worth it. Too much smoke and mirrors right now.
Ben Evens This game was being developed while the Xbox One X was still in development. As we get further and further away from the launch of X1X and as developers get more used to the Xbox One X and the XDK gets better and better, this will only make the games get better and better over time. There is no smoke and mirrors bro, it happens every time a new console get's launched. If you really want to see what the Xbox One X can do, you will need to wait until end of 2018 and end of 2019 to really see games start using the best of the hardware (just like any console generation). You guys act like you never have seen console generations before.
I think it's funny how hardcore and in-depth these analysis videos are now that we're on a time where graphical differences are less noticeable than ever. Imagine if these videos existed when differences in graphics were pretty obvious.
For me the improved ambient occlusion, lighting, shadows, and frame rate of pc /ultra settings makes so much more sense as a choice to give gamers a truly beautiful game. I don't really get the 4K obsession, when my pc is powerful enough that I can run 4K with everything else cranked up then maybe I'll care.
Wow 30 fps what is the point of getting this over a pro? Worse games played at a slightly higher resolution. They really needed to take advantage of the huge gap and demand in the market. A console capable of 60fps accross all games using dynamic resolution. Even lock cut scenes to 30 if needed.
Sorry for my language... BUT WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? Who gives a crap about 4K??? When you play on your console properly, meaning you sit 2-3 meters from your TV set it's impossible to see the difference between 2K and 4K! What you can see on the other hand are 30 FPS and draw distance, like fucking grass popping 3 meters in front of you (vide Battlefront 2). But noooooo... Let's do 30 fps with shitty shadows and draw distance and tell those morons it's in 4K, so they can better see how crapy the game looks...
It took me 2 hours of searching the internet just to figure out why my HDR settings in game were greyed out. I had to screw around with the xbox settings and tv settings, and completely quit the game, restart the xbox, etc and all of a sudden I was able to get into my AC Origins HDR settings! So happy, because it looks absolutely gorgeous now, whatever I did.
If you buy a PC now with GTX 1060, Ryzen 1600, 8GB Ram, powersupply etc it's about 550$..that setup is quite a bit more powerful than Xbox X which has a 10 year old jaguar CPU built in and the GPU is worse than a GTX 1060. Of course a console that uses all the power just for gaming unlike a PC has some advantages too and can keep up with a PC that has more potent hardware.
i agree, coming from a pc gamer, i actually agree. i spent loads of cash on my rig and am very happy with it, but a 500 dollar pc would never match an X or a Pro
Are you going to be covering the PC version of Odyssey more in depth this go around? it seriously took me a whole year to figure out that the AA settings in the game aren't Post-processing AA, but Temporal reconstruction at the low and medium setting with TAA on the high setting. Directly googling leaves a singular discussion thread where someone else figured it out as well. Point is, Gotham needs you, Digital Foundry!
1 thing the dev talked about was the real time loading "bubble" for Bayek and Senu. There's only one bubble in other platforms, meaning you will need to reload everything when you exit back to Bayek if you fly too far away. They do 2 bubble on the xb1x. Double world caching.
It is great to see the Xbox One X being more powerful. Keeps healthy competition between systems strong and all gamers benefit from it. However, I feel Microsoft should have marketed the system differently. Touting an uncompromising 4K experience when most games run in Dynamic Res or Checkerboard Rendering is going to make some think that the marketing was misleading. Yes, while it is more powerful than the PS4 Pro and the differences are clear, I feel Microsoft should have gone with a more dynamic 4k experience slogan while still labeling it as the most powerful console.
CountryGentlman Thats not how you use "subjective", this test wasnt based on upon personal taste nor experiances, there are objective reasons why this console is shit.
FYI, PC does NOT offer HDR. Ubisoft went on the record to say that they currently have no plans to support HDR on PC. They 'apologize' for any confusion caused by an earlier press release that stated they would patch in HDR for ALL platforms in November. So once again it's a choice between 4k 30fps HDR console or 4k 60 PC with no HDR (if you have a super computer - my 1080ti can't come close to 4k 60 at ultra).
Its not 4K on the XBox X, its under 4K.. Lower settings than PC.. And drops below 30fps.. I'd rather 1440p144fps than Under 4K sub 30fps HDR. Though at least you can have a more stable 30fps than consoles on PC too. Why would you even buy a Xbox X if you have a 1080ti? Makes no sense, you already have all the Xbox X games, and can play them better. HDR isn't worth playing with lower framerate.
You would still need a monitor or TV that specifically has HDR capabilities to even take advantage of it. Given the options, I'd go with the one that doesn't run at sub 30FPS...the PC. Even at 1080 or 1440p.
computerassistance36 I guess you're commenting on the wrong game... Coz AC:O has the same texture, lighting, framerate (patch 1.03) and better AO on the Pro...
We are already watching a slowed down 300% zoomed in picture here and its still difficult to see the difference. During normal gameplay you wont notice anything different.
I'm sure as hell ain't buying the Xbox one x for only slightly better looking games. Il stick with my pro and switch. To be honest I couldn't tell any difference between the two console versions. Only seems to be Xbox fanboys who can see the HUGE difference between the two.
People are making it look like Xbox One X is wayyyyyyyyy ahead of the pro and how it's destroying it when in reality it isn't... a few framerates isn't killing the other console. At MOST 4 frames difference during cut scenes and about 1 frame and at MOST 2 during gameplay. Resolution is about the same. I don't understand what people are flipping out about. Like shit, if you want the best of the best go PC
I bought a brand new ps4 pro factory sealed for 300.. wanna know how?? Use the buy and sell apps on your phone and type in ps4 pro.. There are dudes who work at gamestop who literally sell u a brand new console for 100-200 dollars off the original PRICE!!!!
Got the Xbox one x and the pro both look amazing in my opinion not bought the game yet don't know what console to get this on,we really have to see what happens when time goes on with the Xbox one x and pro as they are helping each out! Great stuff to see though!
john deans I’d probably get it for the X to kinda showcase it a bit or if not the pro whichever is play most really I got my X at launch and I’ve been enjoying it very much and was thinking about picking this up to see what the buzz is all about. But I’m sure the pro is no slouch as I think its looks fine as well having both does help the other which is good.
Allow me to say DigitalFoundry is bar none the best Technical Analysis on RUclips, you guys are the quintessential channel and why I come to RUclips on a daily basis . Keep it up guys, amazing job
Look this 4K console nonsense has to stop its not even 4K anyway what are they doing? Dont they realise the majority of us just want 1080p at 60fps? Boasting 4K visuals means nothing if it means the game will chug along at 20-30fps that is trash sorry I will not play it. Like many of you I bought the Pro but I quickly realised I had been scammed it offers minimal improvement over the base console, the X will be no different, at least PS4 has some outstanding exclusives going for it. Just wait for next gen or invest in a beast PC which I am about to do, done with this 20-30fps struggle.
The comment about the game not running in 4k on the X during E3 is mistaken. There was a second demo, in 4k that played directly off of the X. The problem was that the demo was actually a tiny portion of the game and thus easier to make look good for E3. Great versions but its always E3 syndrome for games from Ubisoft. Perhaps soon enough there will be patches to address these issues .
indeed, that bluray player adds nice value AND for that matter xbox one s black friday 150-175 a freakin steal of a bargain imho considering uhd player!
kraenk12 it’s called Ubisoft is shit at optimization game runs like ass on cutscenes on pc and some areas, seriously more cpu demanding games look better on X already
kraenk12 the jaguar cpu is the reason this is happening its not bad optimizations its why big games other then a racing car games cant do real 4k 60fps let alone upscale 4k soild 30fps all that power means nothing if you have a bad cpu this is why us pc electronic heads wasnt fooled by the lies everyone else fell for i laugh so hard when i see advertisements about the x
Royal Blazen it’s not the the jaguar chip lmao Witcher 3 isn’t even patched yet and runs up to 60fps at 4K on the X this is typical Ubisoft any body that knows how bad some pc ports get because of poor optimization’s should be able to understand by now Ubisoft can’t optimize for shit but sure go ahead and tell me which assassins creed ran decent on any platform I’ll wait, cause I clearly remember performance issues since AC3 and up for consoles and PC
I'd rather play at 1080p 60+ frames over 4k 30 fps any day of the week!! The sweet spot for me on my rig is 1440p everything over 80fps! Console will never be capable of giving the gaming experience a pc can give! And what people don't understand is you can spend a tiny bit more than what one of these new consoles cost and build a 500-600 dollar pc that will out run any console available!
With AC-O, 1 thing the dev talked about was the real time loading "bubble" for Bayek and Senu. There's only one bubble in other platforms, meaning you will need to reload everything when you exit back to Bayek if you fly too far away. They do 2 bubble on the xb1x. Double world caching.
It's not the Xbox one X fault this time. I have this game on all three platforms and they all look and run between shit and mediocre. Ubisoft just did Ubisoft which is something we should all be used to by now.
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I wish fanboys would stop arguing. You get what you pay for. If you want 4K, get a PC. If you want improved resolution and performance over current consoles, get the One X or the Pro. If you prefer Playstation, get the Pro. If you prefer Xbox, get the X.
Of course the X is going to be better than the Pro. You get what you pay for but the Pro is still a good improvement in alot of games over the base PS4 so it is still worth an investment. Same with the X. Whilst neither will do true 4K in all games, they both remain the best way to experience games on the PS4/Xbox family.
So buy and enjoy your piece of plastic.
TheMadPolarBear Finally a sensible person in the comments, well said.
JNNNK Pro is cheaper because its weaker, VR is a stupid gimmick, and arguing that the PS4 Pro has better exclusives is an OPINION not a fact, nice try though.
@TheMadPolarBear
The X does do 4k stop spreading fud. "If you want 4K, get a PC. If you want improved resolution and performance over current consoles, get the One X or the Pro." Oh give me a damn break! Is it really that hard hard to speak the truth? Will it kill you to say the X1? If someone wants improved resolution and performance in a console then there's only one to get and that's the X1. Period! You're a fraud! Pretending to be neutral. smh
wobblypops46 He actually said, " The X doesnt do 4K in ALL games", which is true, but it still does native 4K in a handful of games.
@wobblypops46 The Xbox One X as I said, offers improved performance. It will not do native 4K in all games as already shown with the launch X enhanced titles. I own a One X right now and for the price, the improved performance is good for Xbox fans. Look at Halo 5, Assassins Creed Origins etc. It is doing the same dynamic resolution and will likely do checkerboard rendering in the future. The point is, it's a good machine but the situation has not changed. If you truly want native 4K, the only option will be a PC. If you want the improvements that the One X and PS4 Pro bring, then by all means, they are good machines and great for fans of the Playstation and Xbox family.
"One thing that has been bothering me is the E3 gameplay trailer footage..." - *grabs popcorn* , oh boy here we go again.
Is anyone surprised?!
Impressive One X ! I played it yesterday on my LG OLED 4k and it Looks stunning !
Have to say, this channel is becoming one of my favourites. I love the game review / comparison. At first I thought you guys were a bunch of old fuzz balls, but you's are actually pretty awesome :)
XD
Honestly, if the X and Pro are only going to do 30fps at these higher resolutions, just keep the games at 1080p.
There were other bottlenecks preventing 60, even if you lowered the resolution to 720p.
@@jesseshaver2262 yeah it's the cpu. These 8th gen systems were outdated the day they launched. They have the fx8120 cpu, which was first used in 2011 in laptops. Yes, these consoles use laptop CPUs from 2011.
They are so weak its laughable.
And guess what, the pro versions also use the same CPUs.
Few years down the line if only you know the game go to update for the next-generation now is a 60 frames
The comments in this section is legit cancerous
Not mine right?
Yeah, DF should have moderators that ban pretty obvious hating. I'd offer my help.
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Yeah, let's sensor everyone that doesn't agree with me. That's what this would turn into. Especially with loose Xbox fanboys.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Mohammed is more of a cat person...
All of the fanboys just ruin everything
This game on ultra at 60fps is stunningly beautiful. Pretty CPU heavy in the cities but I am really happy with it so far. When I move up to 4k I will be shooting for actual 4k, not checkerboarding.
Marginal differences. Who does really think about this when playing? This is an awesome game on any platform. I own an XBOX ONE X, so I am happy with the extra power and all, but if I had a PS4PRO or a high-end PC, I would enjoy the game anyway.
Great analysis, guys. It is interesting to dwell on the technical aspects like pixel counting, draw distance and world shadows. But again, little differences that shine in some specific locations (HDR in tombs and caves are eye-openers) but do not affect the gaming experience overall.
Carles MR thats what i said when it was going down between the regular xbox one and play station 4,that the diffetence was small some couldnt even notice but they kept throwing fuel to the fire and now we a new console every 3 years
Going from the base models the X is a huge improvement. With the pro not so much,
Tsunat3z Because the PS4 was already a solid Hardware for $250!
while the Shitbox Done can't even handle 720p in BF1
Obviously a lot do, Sony has been throwing this in Xbox's face for 4 years! Looks like it back fired on them too
Who really thinks about that when playing? More people then you think....
I dont know how many of you guys work on this channel, But I have been binge watching your channel today, after seeing atleast 15 videos, I just want to say well done guys, and thank you for putting in the work for us to see the comparisons.
Good stuff
Fart
"I was a mistake." ~fanboy
Same.
Wait.
I like how the least biased comments get the least amount of replies.
+Faizan Ali because there's nothing for fanboys to fight over.
Because the Pro was a mistake. Way smaller improvement than the One X. Way less support than the One X, even though it came out a year earlier. And for 100USD less...yet it doesnt even have a 4K blu ray drive that Sony made? Yeah I dont see how any of those facts are fanboy opinions.
Quantum Witcher
Why is it such a common misconception that Sony invented it?
Yes they joined the group of companies that devloped it including Philips and others but you don't hear people say Philips invented the blue ray.
And now blue ray is it's own division with a board of directors from many companies including Microsoft and Sony.
60 FPS > 4K
It'd be nice if Ubisoft offered that option @ 1080p on the Xbox One version. Perhaps they might in a later patch.
PC > Console
Even if they gave it a 1080p option, the GPU isn't the issue here. It's the CPU. It even struggles to get a stable 60FPS in linear games. Open world games just destroy it.
Xbox One CPU is basically a potato. Xbox One X CPU is a boiled Potato.
Not much difference since they are both still potatoes.
There is no way in hell they can get this running at 60fps on either of those consoles. I'd wager not even at 900p.
Way too much CPU hammering.
This is one of if not the most beautiful games ive played. Glad i waited for the One X to play it. The power of this console is amazing.
When will console manufacturers and developers realize the jump from 30 fps to 60 fps is much more important and noticeable than 1080p to 4k?
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I guess they'll get the message when gamers stop saying "oooh look at them shiny new graphics on that new console"....i.e. NEVER.
Lol even next gen is stuck at 30fps 😄 🤣
The PC version never received HDR guys, even Ubisoft stated that they have no intention of implementing it on PC. False advertising since, as you stated, HDR were supposed to be added to "all platforms".
Marsson 90 HDR is annoying though..
Not when it works and have been implemented correctly. Some games look a LOT better with it on a good display :-)
Marsson 90 You call that annoying effects great?
Tbf, hdr is kinda broken on windows right now.
You’ll need an appropriate hdr screen first. There’s a lot of fake hdr monitors out there watch out.
Game looks great on all systems, runs better framerate-wise on PC.
Yet it's evident something is wrong with the CPU usage on pc, imagine with this issue fixed
PC has a massive stuttering problem especially during cutscenes (even with a GTX 1080ti, an i7 6700k, 16 GB RAM installed on an SSD with newest drivers 388.13 and the current patch version 1.03).. Why they didn't talk about this in the video is beyond me..
it doesnt have a stuttering problem on most systems. maybe some people have it but i dont
PC gets FULL 4K, better settings, and framerate. better overall experience.
The stuttering problems was fixed last patch for me. No issues anymore since then.
Again..... fantastic work guys! You guys are the best in the business. Looks like the game looks amazing on all systems. Happy days for everyone! Personally, I'm playing it on the X and it is simply amazing. Ubi completely nailed this one. Game is a gem.
HDR settings in 10:04
Can you guys make a video explaining all the jargon you guys say, so that we can understand what you're talking about. Also show examples of the stuff like ambient occlusion. Whatever that is. It would be really helpful! Thank you and keep up the great work! I love these vids even though I don't understand everything you guys are talking about. :)
I noticed that in the, "gear," option screen that the crafting upgrade pictures were at 1080 resolution, while the Ranged, melee, outfit, and shield were in 4k
Wow, they were lying at E3 and were actually using the pc version? Thats slimy af.
Are you surprised that a corporate entity lied to its customers?
Ubisoft always lies
It just works..
Lol. You all been fooled. The E3 version is running PC. That's just classic Ubisoft.
That should be illegal, the definition of false advertising.
Sindhu Baskoro METRO footage at E3 was also. The developer stated that the X console was on stage and turned on but the footage came from a PC. Now Origins was on PC at what they guessed it would look like on Xbox X.
It really should be illegal.
It's not the same as PC, the shadows are lower, the LOD is lower, the resolution is lower.
CommonSense Come back, "It's not the same as PC"
It was a PC with settings lowered to look like what they thought X would do.
Everything at E3 runs on a PC! ROFL! Remember uncharted 3 trailer?
Even had a PS4 on the stage PMSL! With fake wires and everything! With a PC hidden behind the curtain! Still millions sold on pre-order!
You tell a sheep the same thing for long enough, the sheep will eventually agree.
Compairing a $500 GPU to a $500 fully working Console. Doesn't seem legit. You get what you pay for. Getting these much pixels for just $500 is amazin value. PC gaming is expensive and will always be.
you do know the 500$ GPU is for 60FPS4K not 1800p25fps
Woo Kings-ton Just do me a favour, and help be built a new PC of $500 that will at least beat PS4 Pro, let alone XBOX One X. Please, guide me.
You know that's actually a given? It's possible to compare things without factoring in price.
The Xbox One X is more expensive than the Pro, so by your logic they shouldn't be comparing them either.
The PC is there as the benchmark to show what true 4k looks like.
Ayush Pandey g4560 and a gtx 1050ti there not that hard
William Fenton Xbox One X is way faster than PS4 Pro, so it justfies its price difference. Where as PC gaming, at least for me in my country, doesn't justify it's price compared to consoles.
I've switched from a regular Xbox one to the X and God damn it looks and feels ssooooooo much better hah. Looked like a potato on the OG.
Rob Carnage And now switch to PC we're 1440p60fps Ultra Settings will make your X look like a Potato!
Ioannis Stf Can you even do that with the same price? The console is said to be a powerful as a 1070, that alone costs more than $400.
Ioannis Stf always a PC gamer on a console video...
1983Dave1983
This is a console video? Um, this video is about AC Origins.
Not to mention DF is mainly a PC channel covering consoles only when they release.
Edjeil Dominic Labra
No it's not as powerful as gtx 1070. If it was it'd hit true 4k at constant 30fps.
Looking forward to replaying this on PS5 @ 60fps!
Hey Digital Foundry,
What were the Pc-specs you guys used to run the game at full native 4K in this video? I mainly refer to the gpu and cpu. And could u reach solid 60fps while running the game at 4k with highest settings? Thx for an answer.
(And sorry for bad english. I'm german)
lol no response
@@lemmy154 real
I love how so many people make their decision as to whether they should upgrade or not based on just one game lol
VMProtect on top of Denuvo was a mistake
- Ubisoft: "We are going to implement DRM because it stops pirating"
- Ubisoft 2014: "Well ehm... it turns out it doesn't stop pirating"
- Ubisoft 2017: "Maybe if we put DRM on top of some more DRM... maybe that would work... screw the performance of people that actually buy our products..."
Can't wait for this to be cracked. Not supporting Ubisoft for intrusive DRM and micro transactions.
same
Df downplaying the PC advantages as usual
barfyman362 Please outline the PC advantages which you claimed DF downplayed. Thanks in advance.
As someone that buys pretty much all consoles I sold my xbox one when they cancelled Scalebound.. What is the point of a console with almost no exclusives? Even the failed Wii U had great 1st party games..
I️ love how serious these videos are with the added commentary. Digital Foundry does great work but let’s be honest video games and current hardware (Xbox One X, PS4 Pro and PC) all are able to present these games with great detail. If you’re on console you’re getting great value. If you’re on PC you’re enjoying higher FPS and native resolutions. We are at 4K gaming in 2017 guys. Consoles are doing it too. This is a big deal and great news. With new hardware coming out in the next couple of years it should be a minimum of 60 FPS for even consoles. What’s next 8k? Lol come on we are in a very unique time period. No matter what you play just have fun.
ill tell you whats next : 8k at 20-30 fps and 4k 60fps will NEVER be achieved, resolution sells consoles, not frame rates :(
I guess the brewing deliberation now is the authenticity of Microsoft's claims concerning native 4k and the even less palpable 60 frames per second. There is no doubt this is a more powerful machine than the PS4 Pro, as one would expect given the time allotted between both releases. But the superfluous claims and advertised quality were delivered with absolute certainty and the results have fallen short of that. As many of the more astute oberservers have mentioned: native 4k/60fps is still jarringly taxing on a current high end PC containing a 1080ti. At no point did it even seem remotely possible for them to truncate the performance cost of a $1500 PC to $500. However we now suspect them to have used a PC to showcase their games at E3 as I'm sure they suspected a less discerning audience and an even less informed consumer.
The key point here is software, it is questionable however that’s the beauty of one of the most power software companies in the world. This is all new technology and it doesn’t matter as long as the performance is solid and the graphics are great why try to nit pick it is all I am saying. It’s been long overdue for Microsoft to recover from the Balmer and prior president of the Xbox divisions departure of Microsoft for Phil spencer and satya and Nadella to get the Xbox one where it needs to be. Now that it’s there people still want to hate on it and find any flaw they can, it’s so petty to focus on the negative, why can’t we just focus on a great product and enjoy it. Gaming and technology is so much like politics it’s crazy.
Lots of these comments give the impression that people are trying to justify buying the One X. If you like it and it's worth it to you, then why are you trying to justify it? Taking jabs at an older system (PS4 Pro) is hardly justifying the One X. It's rather silly. People with high-end PCs can say the same about the One X. As a filthy casual, I'm pleased with my PS4 Pro. I like it. I am sure if I had a One X I would like that, too. Once games are optimised for the One X I am sure I'll be envious. For now, though, just relax. That's the purpose of gaming anyway.
Rhys Roberts I get what you are saying man, I really do. It upsets me how a new war has started. But in Xbox users Defence ffs how long did you Sony users mock our 900p Xbox one despite the fact all the games were in 1080p. Why can’t we now have our turn at mocking Sony users? It’s seems unfair that we have to be respectful to you guys, then as soon as you get an upgrade, it’s straight onto let’s bully the Xbox users. But again, I get what you mean
I won't stop you from having a go at PS4s. I'm just saying that people who have bought the One X and are trying to justify their purchase need to relax. It's not about what other people think of it. If you bought a One X and you enjoy it - you think it's worth the money - then what's the problem? A bunch of faceless people on the internet judging you is hardly important. Justifying it like they have been in this comment section gives me the impression that, to them, it wasn't worth it.
sounds to me like ubi didn't even try to optimize for the pro which dissapoints me... they easily could have made it at least 1800p res and the X at 2160p through checkerboard and it would have looked better. checkerboard is the best solution for rendering for efficency IMO and allows for better looking games.
Ziv Riger absolutely agreed , but it also takes more time and effort to implement . It would be great to seeing it on PC as well like in Watch Dogs 2
True, but resolution nuts act like checkerboard is so much worse than native 4k when they look the exact same.
Ziv Riger Not sure you can make that call unless you work will you be sauce stick and PS4 pro
i dont think ps4 pro can do 1800P in this game, i'm not sure about what the X could do better if it could do better maybe higher anisotropic filtering and better ambient occlusion sampling but im not sure given how the game samples out of its render. typical ubisoft game code tends to be more demanding to hardware than it should be given what it is.
i dont like checkerboard scaling.. have played with PS4 pro a lot with my buddies, ill stick with native resolution, just waay sharper, i dont care what anyone says... the thing a lot of people dont mention or fail to realize is when you scale images up, regardless of what method you use, any extra filtering, like anti aliasing, anisotropic for examples are not sampled at the output resolution, but instead sampled at the lower res.. this is a major annoyance when antialiasing is using temporal method since temporal uses reduced scaling method to blur edges...
yes im a PC gamer, but i'm not an elitist, i'm open and welcoming for console gamers to experience better visual fidelity that we have... but not sure when that will be a thing, seems 4K is achievable but given weaker CPUs all consoles have, heavy filtering or higher frame rate isn't going to be a thing apparently.. like most games that are "patched" for higher console still use 8X anisotropic filtering, which is obnoxious since 16X looks better, especially at awkward angles and doesn't tax hardware any extra.. then ambient occlusion which for most part on consoles even pro and X are seeing reduced settings like SSAO or completely disabled.. and it kills the ambience if you played the same game on a PC using HBAO+.. sure some games make it little more demanding to use HBAO depending how its sampled, but usually only like 2-5% at most and worth it for the extra eye candy..
and other things that are more demanding and understandable why consoles will never touch them like enhanced godrays and such..
Pro would never get 1800p from this game.
The PC version didn't receive HDR in an update. Ubisoft backtracked on their statement about "all platforms".
This is one of the best channels I’ve ever come across. GREAT JOB GUYS!
Last 4 videos have been using dynamic resolution on Xbox One X. What happened to True 4K? 🐸☕️
Microsoft has said that Devs are free to use the hardware however they want, they do not have to hit native 4K if they desire graphics over resolution.
PRESS START KOFI Troll spotted
xGeoThumbs yes let's bring on the excuses lol!
kublaikhan1215 It is literally what Microsoft has communicated to its developers. I am just answering the guy's question lol.
xGeoThumbs You are right. They are free to use it however they want. However, I don't think they would restrict Xbox X intentionally. It clearly can't hit true 4k native in this game. The machine isn't powerful enough.
I'm happy with my ps4 pro, 1080p monitor set up. I'd like to see a 1080p comparison between the pro and x.
So according to this video, MS lied at the Assassins creed showing because they said it was running on the X at 4k but it was really running on a PC at 4k. Now that the actual game is out on the console it's running below that. Didn't they say "no compromise". This is the reason why I'm waiting to see if the X is going to be worth it. Too much smoke and mirrors right now.
Ben Evens boy, you already knew this game wasn't gonna be native 4k.
Ben Evens also the tv ads for this game on Xbox say "captured in 4K on windows 10 pc" at the bottom...
Ben Evens This game was being developed while the Xbox One X was still in development. As we get further and further away from the launch of X1X and as developers get more used to the Xbox One X and the XDK gets better and better, this will only make the games get better and better over time. There is no smoke and mirrors bro, it happens every time a new console get's launched. If you really want to see what the Xbox One X can do, you will need to wait until end of 2018 and end of 2019 to really see games start using the best of the hardware (just like any console generation). You guys act like you never have seen console generations before.
I think it's funny how hardcore and in-depth these analysis videos are now that we're on a time where graphical differences are less noticeable than ever. Imagine if these videos existed when differences in graphics were pretty obvious.
For me the improved ambient occlusion, lighting, shadows, and frame rate of pc /ultra settings makes so much more sense as a choice to give gamers a truly beautiful game. I don't really get the 4K obsession, when my pc is powerful enough that I can run 4K with everything else cranked up then maybe I'll care.
The future is now
Wow 30 fps what is the point of getting this over a pro? Worse games played at a slightly higher resolution. They really needed to take advantage of the huge gap and demand in the market. A console capable of 60fps accross all games using dynamic resolution. Even lock cut scenes to 30 if needed.
It's ok, I know you can't afford it.
Derp Derp console boi is mad
Derp Derp What use would it be when I have a 1080?
Sorry for my language... BUT WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? Who gives a crap about 4K??? When you play on your console properly, meaning you sit 2-3 meters from your TV set it's impossible to see the difference between 2K and 4K! What you can see on the other hand are 30 FPS and draw distance, like fucking grass popping 3 meters in front of you (vide Battlefront 2). But noooooo... Let's do 30 fps with shitty shadows and draw distance and tell those morons it's in 4K, so they can better see how crapy the game looks...
I can't wait to play this game when my X arrives.
It took me 2 hours of searching the internet just to figure out why my HDR settings in game were greyed out. I had to screw around with the xbox settings and tv settings, and completely quit the game, restart the xbox, etc and all of a sudden I was able to get into my AC Origins HDR settings! So happy, because it looks absolutely gorgeous now, whatever I did.
Started this game today on the pro , it blew me away fantastic looking game , what ever you play this game on I’m sure you will like it enjoy
Here comes the crappy cpu with below 30fps
Just be glad they didn't put this crazy DRM on the console versions or it would be a slideshow.
This is still my favorite game of this generation 😀
SAME
Just started playing it and loving it. Love it so much even spent $5 on a midnight sun mount. Will probably buy all story DLC.
@@Teremei The story DLC is absolutely worth it
What DF should do is also compare it to a pc that costs 500 bucks from scratch. ..that would go to show the great value that the x is
Orlanzo Telfer i thought of this too. They say "looking better on pc" they never say which pc, one close to $700-$1000 or within console price?
If you buy a PC now with GTX 1060, Ryzen 1600, 8GB Ram, powersupply etc it's about 550$..that setup is quite a bit more powerful than Xbox X which has a 10 year old jaguar CPU built in and the GPU is worse than a GTX 1060. Of course a console that uses all the power just for gaming unlike a PC has some advantages too and can keep up with a PC that has more potent hardware.
Orlanzo Telfer then the best buy is a ps4 pro for $400 if you say that.
Genjuro77 the custom RX 580 in the X is much better than the 1060. stop it. it's the cpu that's ass.
i agree, coming from a pc gamer, i actually agree. i spent loads of cash on my rig and am very happy with it, but a 500 dollar pc would never match an X or a Pro
60 fps update drops June 2nd for next gen
Might be going blind, but I can't see the difference in resolution even when it is zoomed in on my 1080p screen
Xbox fanboys a few months ago "true 4k 60fps" now.. 30fps 😂😂
🤡
"X gon' give it to ya"
Nononono, PC gon' give it to ya.
crativ3 if spend a lil more then yeah obviously
More like PC gonna give it to ya wallet
These xbot saying its too expensive to build a good PC. How was spending all that money on a $500 console, 4tv, extra controller, and paid online.
And more for games too.
MajesticF0X *ROFL*
All Assassin Creed games run like ass so this was expected.
Are you going to be covering the PC version of Odyssey more in depth this go around? it seriously took me a whole year to figure out that the AA settings in the game aren't Post-processing AA, but Temporal reconstruction at the low and medium setting with TAA on the high setting. Directly googling leaves a singular discussion thread where someone else figured it out as well. Point is, Gotham needs you, Digital Foundry!
1 thing the dev talked about was the real time loading "bubble" for Bayek and Senu.
There's only one bubble in other platforms, meaning you will need to reload everything when you exit back to Bayek if you fly too far away.
They do 2 bubble on the xb1x. Double world caching.
True 4k is dynamic upscaling these days I thought it was just 4k thanks.....
I wish digital foundry would disable comments on all videos. So immature. I have the x and it's truly worth every penny. I enjoy my pro as well.
Casey Graham STFU
Impressive Microsoft. Also the game is enjoyable and looks great on all platforms. Have fun everybody :)
Thank you :)
5 years later this is still one of the most gorgeous games made
It is great to see the Xbox One X being more powerful. Keeps healthy competition between systems strong and all gamers benefit from it. However, I feel Microsoft should have marketed the system differently. Touting an uncompromising 4K experience when most games run in Dynamic Res or Checkerboard Rendering is going to make some think that the marketing was misleading. Yes, while it is more powerful than the PS4 Pro and the differences are clear, I feel Microsoft should have gone with a more dynamic 4k experience slogan while still labeling it as the most powerful console.
Can't wait to play this on the X today. Continue to enjoy the Pro, Sony fans. It's a fine console.
Polo Surf Sorry, but that is subjective.
CountryGentlman Thats not how you use "subjective", this test wasnt based on upon personal taste nor experiances, there are objective reasons why this console is shit.
I think both x and pro are the best consoles ;) I am a pro owner and I wish to happiness on x :)
FYI, PC does NOT offer HDR. Ubisoft went on the record to say that they currently have no plans to support HDR on PC. They 'apologize' for any confusion caused by an earlier press release that stated they would patch in HDR for ALL platforms in November. So once again it's a choice between 4k 30fps HDR console or 4k 60 PC with no HDR (if you have a super computer - my 1080ti can't come close to 4k 60 at ultra).
Its not 4K on the XBox X, its under 4K.. Lower settings than PC.. And drops below 30fps.. I'd rather 1440p144fps than Under 4K sub 30fps HDR. Though at least you can have a more stable 30fps than consoles on PC too. Why would you even buy a Xbox X if you have a 1080ti? Makes no sense, you already have all the Xbox X games, and can play them better. HDR isn't worth playing with lower framerate.
You would still need a monitor or TV that specifically has HDR capabilities to even take advantage of it. Given the options, I'd go with the one that doesn't run at sub 30FPS...the PC. Even at 1080 or 1440p.
HDR? Pass. I choose the system that has the best framerate. Visuals are secondary.
Tbh I don't see that much of a difference...
They should've instead lowered the res to get a better framerate..
Shuvam Ghosh are you watching on a 4K screen?
%50 more res, better frame rate, lighting and textures, its just you are dumb
computerassistance36 I guess you're commenting on the wrong game...
Coz AC:O has the same texture, lighting, framerate (patch 1.03) and better AO on the Pro...
Shuvam Ghosh You don't have a 4k screen you noob lol.
John Tron123 PS4 pro and xbox one x look identical.
Wow, the release version looks a lot better than the E3 reveal footage. Isn't that the opposite of what usually happens?
Sign of a polished game
Is it worth upgrading from the pro to the x ? I just don’t see much difference.
Is there something wrong with my eyes? I'm watching this on my 4k tv and I can't tell any differences between the three versions.
You can't tell a SINGLE difference from X to Pro although they Pixel count is higher...
4k trend *facepalm*
60fps > 4K
When is the Nioh PC test coming?
We are already watching a slowed down 300% zoomed in picture here and its still difficult to see the difference. During normal gameplay you wont notice anything different.
So both boxes use dynamic res and 30 fps.
30 fps was a mistake.
I'm sure as hell ain't buying the Xbox one x for only slightly better looking games. Il stick with my pro and switch. To be honest I couldn't tell any difference between the two console versions. Only seems to be Xbox fanboys who can see the HUGE difference between the two.
People are making it look like Xbox One X is wayyyyyyyyy ahead of the pro and how it's destroying it when in reality it isn't... a few framerates isn't killing the other console. At MOST 4 frames difference during cut scenes and about 1 frame and at MOST 2 during gameplay. Resolution is about the same. I don't understand what people are flipping out about. Like shit, if you want the best of the best go PC
SkatingGaming Well for a year Xbox fanboys were saying how Xbox x will have native 4k 60fps. Now they celebrate 1 fps difference as a win.
I don’t have a 4K tv and my built in DVR records in 1080p 30FPS, I would like to see you all shed light on that maybe as side note one if these days.
*BEAST cant play cut scenes at 30fps*
Nice quote: ps4 was used in pole position and cost even 100 less. The X sounds not so gut from that perspective
Mastero Flich When I trade or sell my one S I will get at least 100 for it. So I'm paying 400 for the X :)
The Pro is being sold for 350 atm and there will probably be a price drop at PSX.
I bought a brand new ps4 pro factory sealed for 300.. wanna know how?? Use the buy and sell apps on your phone and type in ps4 pro.. There are dudes who work at gamestop who literally sell u a brand new console for 100-200 dollars off the original PRICE!!!!
yeah but when I trade or sell my ps4, I got 150 for it, SO I PAID 250 FOR THE PRO :D
UNCOMPROMISED 25fps!
Technically it is compromised 25 fps
better than 19 fps at 1200p
grasping at straws 2017.
computerassistance36
Yeah, and 19fps at 1200p is better than 10fps at 640p. What's your point?
cptnoremac
Yeah and 10fps at 640p is better than 480p at 5fps... What's your point?
Any plans to do a sound test on the One X? Normally it's part of your console coverage but haven't seen it in any of your One X videos as of yet.
Thank you Rich!!! As always well done!!!
The Xbox One X has been in development and just came out a year after the pro and it's still not impressing me the Xbox One X is definitely a mistake
Dynamic scaling for xbox one x is true 4k gaming. Lol
xbox one X for $500 was a mistake
Yeah but you can't seem to convince people it's raining even when it's' hitting them right in the face!! Pretty sad.
True man,,that price is going to come down fast next year.
Got the Xbox one x and the pro both look amazing in my opinion not bought the game yet don't know what console to get this on,we really have to see what happens when time goes on with the Xbox one x and pro as they are helping each out! Great stuff to see though!
john deans I’d probably get it for the X to kinda showcase it a bit or if not the pro whichever is play most really I got my X at launch and I’ve been enjoying it very much and was thinking about picking this up to see what the buzz is all about. But I’m sure the pro is no slouch as I think its looks fine as well having both does help the other which is good.
Allow me to say DigitalFoundry is bar none the best Technical Analysis on RUclips, you guys are the quintessential channel and why I come to RUclips on a daily basis . Keep it up guys, amazing job
Look this 4K console nonsense has to stop its not even 4K anyway what are they doing? Dont they realise the majority of us just want 1080p at 60fps? Boasting 4K visuals means nothing if it means the game will chug along at 20-30fps that is trash sorry I will not play it.
Like many of you I bought the Pro but I quickly realised I had been scammed it offers minimal improvement over the base console, the X will be no different, at least PS4 has some outstanding exclusives going for it. Just wait for next gen or invest in a beast PC which I am about to do, done with this 20-30fps struggle.
yeah why i stuck with OG ps4, i have a pc for 3rd parties...
Again xbox one x minimum 50% more pixels as ps4 pro. Nice work Microsoft!
Ave Spoken like a true casual. If 1550p vs 1700p is 50% what do you think 1080p vs 900p is.
igordelija good question.
igordelija you know that these numbers are multiplied, right? Mr casual
Ave yep uncompromised true 4K.
Yeah nice but i would still prefer 60fps in every game.
What about the PC version's performance?
THANK YOU! Was wonderign why they didn't show the PC fps.. I know its higher, and more stable, but i still want to see.
At this point there's no reason to even look at the comments unless you're going in with the intention of getting into an argument.
The comment about the game not running in 4k on the X during E3 is mistaken. There was a second demo, in 4k that played directly off of the X. The problem was that the demo was actually a tiny portion of the game and thus easier to make look good for E3. Great versions but its always E3 syndrome for games from Ubisoft. Perhaps soon enough there will be patches to address these issues .
Damn, for £450 the Xbox One X is a great piece of hardware.
indeed, that bluray player adds nice value AND for that matter xbox one s black friday 150-175 a freakin steal of a bargain imho considering uhd player!
The Ethical Pixel No Games!
Worst graphics!
But, *IT HAS A UHD PLAYER!!*
How in the world is One S a good buy?
RealityCheck your comment is pretty stupid, I'm saying the hardware is great for it's price. You PC tards are worse fanboys than the PS4 ones.
RealityCheck
"Expensive peripherals"
A decent gaming mouse costs 40 to 50 bucks and keyboards aren't any cheaper.
450 bucks? where'd you get that info, is $500
WTF 19 frames on next next gen ?
XBOX ONE X Not even hitting 30fps. WTF is this?
Bad optimization, Witcher 3 running just fine on my X at 4K
It's called using a 5 year old Laptop CPU.
kraenk12 it’s called Ubisoft is shit at optimization game runs like ass on cutscenes on pc and some areas, seriously more cpu demanding games look better on X already
kraenk12 the jaguar cpu is the reason this is happening its not bad optimizations its why big games other then a racing car games cant do real 4k 60fps let alone upscale 4k soild 30fps all that power means nothing if you have a bad cpu this is why us pc electronic heads wasnt fooled by the lies everyone else fell for
i laugh so hard when i see advertisements about the x
Royal Blazen it’s not the the jaguar chip lmao Witcher 3 isn’t even patched yet and runs up to 60fps at 4K on the X this is typical Ubisoft any body that knows how bad some pc ports get because of poor optimization’s should be able to understand by now Ubisoft can’t optimize for shit but sure go ahead and tell me which assassins creed ran decent on any platform I’ll wait, cause I clearly remember performance issues since AC3 and up for consoles and PC
Really enjoying the PC, Playstation, and Xbox focused content, DF. Keep it up.
I'm waiting for Prince Dizzy to get here to exclaim falsely how the PC version is bad
Ben White Nobody falls for his slanderous claims haha
The higher the resolutions get, the less noticeable it is. Diminishing returns. The added texture quality helps a bit though.
Which has better soupy textures?
A: PSPro
B: Heinz
A
Michael White what is the best console for spend my money?xbox one x is out.
The one where you pause the game and press your nose up to your 65” 4KHDTV to see it? 😂
Lol PS4 Pro 1080p/19 fps
C. VHS with spy camera
I'd rather play at 1080p 60+ frames over 4k 30 fps any day of the week!! The sweet spot for me on my rig is 1440p everything over 80fps! Console will never be capable of giving the gaming experience a pc can give! And what people don't understand is you can spend a tiny bit more than what one of these new consoles cost and build a 500-600 dollar pc that will out run any console available!
Xbox one x most powerful console ever made that even can't run this game at solid 30 fps!!!!!
Burned!!!! Jajajajajajaja!!!
With AC-O, 1 thing the dev talked about was the real time loading "bubble" for Bayek and Senu.
There's only one bubble in other platforms, meaning you will need to reload everything when you exit back to Bayek if you fly too far away.
They do 2 bubble on the xb1x. Double world caching.
Special Operations both are shit
dont be stupid and stoop to his level
It's not the console. It's the devs. Dumbass. On pc this game runs shit.
It's not the Xbox one X fault this time. I have this game on all three platforms and they all look and run between shit and mediocre. Ubisoft just did Ubisoft which is something we should all be used to by now.
What PC config did they use in this comparison video guys? Gtx 1080 with a 6 core coffee lake?
When is The Witcher 3 Xbox One X patch coming?
Baytuh i know waiting on that too smh