Eliminate throttle play - Triumph Speed Twin 1200 (Ducati spacers)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I find the throttle play on my 2022 Triumph Speed Twin excessive and annoying, especially at low speeds. This kit eliminates about 90% of the play, and makes for a much cleaner throttle action.
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- spacer kits for Ducatis and Triumphs: www.ducatispacers.com
- bit for the 2 anti-tamper screws: search for 'triangular bits' on Amazon, eBay, etc. I found that a 2.7 bit fits best.
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You murdered that Grip Puppy! Put the cut end on the inside of the grip, it tends to hide the cut and gives you a clean side that is openly visible.
Good tip. I’ll do that next time😂
@@RocketMan_Moto or just reverse it now? 🙂
I thought of that. I’ll give it a go and try and clean the rough end up before I put it back on👍
@@RocketMan_Moto sorry, that’s me being a bit OCD. 😬
Nice kit to fix an obviously annoying problem. Triumph should have known better than engineer ‘in’ a known issue for most riders. While some might never even recognize the throttle play, to me, it would be very distracting. As you said, kind of pricey for such simple pieces and a tamper proof bit of the wrong type! But, some solutions are worth far more than they cost. Thanks for sharing this one with us. Ride safe my friend.
Thanks, Willy. Yes, very expensive for two bits of plastic, but the end result is worth it.
thank you I have lot count of the hours spent making my Triumphs for fit for purpose over the last 40 years
I suppose it is part of the fun, but I wish this particular issue was sorted at the factory
A must have accessory
I think so
Hi RM
Passed MOD2 Wednesday so world is my bi-valve mollusc.
On a SV650 and Vulcan S to begin with. First ride today on both. So bloody different. Shite weather here so had to wash both after. Still very icy so kept to main roads.
What did surprise me was after 16 or so hours on the DAS bike CB650R, practised on my 125 and I was hitting the Rev limiter every time. Prior to my DAS I was quite happy at 125 but soon realised the difference. I get what you mean now when a few months ago you suggested that I might not be satisfied with a T100 compared to the T120.
Regards
Congratulations on the test! Everyone's different, of course, but I find that 100hp is a minimum and more than 150 is probably too much.
It amazes me, what's so sueper special need to "imagine" - ok, here we're going to use a triangle bit. There's no benefit, it's not some special torque there. In 2018 I could touch the throttle of Davizioso on his Scrambler during Ducati Week and he didn't want that free space either. I think one other rider also had it blocked. I don't like it either.
An unnecessary 'security' feature, and pretty pointless seeing as how you can buy the corresponding bit from Amazon anyway
What a faff, at least with a cable throttle it's possible to adjust the free play accurately to ones liking. IMHO, ride by wire is a retrograde step, if your wiring loom is compromised, which it may be (around the headstock), you're stranded.
Agreed. I guess it’s cheaper than installing a cable🙄
Yup I just adjust the throttle cable free play on my Gpz900r , good 'ol times ;-)
Progress🙄
Im not a fan of these spaces...... especially on the track. They are dangerous, and the play is there for a reason. I actually installed one of these on my V4S and the Ducati certified mechanic told that they cause all sort of issues in the long term... But its a free world, so you do you :-)
I think the issue with this specific bike is the amount of throttle play and the transition between the end of the play to engaging the throttle. I have a 2021 STwin and having owned a few bikes over the years, the thing is that the play with these are strange. There is just a hair too much force needed for acceleration at the end of the free play, which makes riding at low speeds very annoying. It’s something’s that gets easier over time to deal with, but every once and a while, you miss it and again, just a little annoying thing. It’s not normal throttle free play.
Interesting. I'm not disputing your claims, Angus, but I can't really see why they might be dangerous. They eliminate about 80-90% of the play; there's still some wiggle room in there. Do you know why the mechanic believes them to be dangerous?
I would agree with this - the problem isn't free play, but how much of it there is on the Speed Twin. These spacers eliminate 80-90%, but do leave a little play in there.
Still totally pleased with my bike! Have not been able to ride it as much as I would have liked, and still finding out all the nice bits about it. For example how well connected to the bike I feel, compared to some other bikes I have had. Sadly, the Swedish autumn is here, its getting cold and slippery!
I have a question about the throttle spacers: Would it not be cheaper to just fabricate small pieces of, for example, aluminium, and glue them to the sides of the notch which the plastic bits are pressed on to? Hm...think I will try that, and let you know if it works.
Ride safe!
I personally wouldn’t want to put glue anywhere inside the throttle🤔
@@RocketMan_Moto Hm...you maybe right about that.
I ride an old, pre RBW Triumph which probably has the throttle sloppiness inherently. I don't understand what makes these little plastic bits different from something home-brewed.
Convenience, I suppose
That's weird: I have a 2022 Speed Twin and I don't have the triangle bit screw on the throttle. The bit provided with the spacer kit worked just fine.
Really? That is odd…
Any chance you could remove the info about the screw/bit changing for the 2022 model, or at least add a note in your description? The 2022 model uses the exact same tri-wing security screw that these housings have used since the beginning, confirmed with several customers now! Lots of confused customers coming our way due to this video.
In that case, you sent me the wrong kit, because the bit you provided most definitely did NOT fit my 2022 Speed Twin.
I´v bought this for my bike as well but have not install them yet. So how good do you think the throttle feel after? im quite curious to feel the difference.
Much smoother, especially at lower speeds, around traffic, etc. Expensive for what you get, but the result makes the investment worthwhile.
@@RocketMan_Motohat sounds perfect. yeah i know. i think with shipping and toll cost, mine cost me about 55 € to get it so pretty expensive. thx for great content.
I know, they’re a rip off but we have no other choice😩
Pretty poor reflection on Triumph that you have to do this on a 2020 bike. Why couldn't they just get it right at the factory? That sort of "it'll do" thinking is why I bought an R9T instead of a Speed Twin.
I agree, although it’s not unique to Triumph. Ducatis and KTMs have the same issue🙄
Built in play?? Sooo Triumph, what if I had never ridden a bike with cable throttle, (they do market towards new riders).. I'd just think it was sloppy.
Good fix.
Thanks, Graham😊
Is it really a throttle any more? You can only request to go faster, sometimes the computer says no, lol.
Haha :)
Milliput epoxy putty is your friend!
Not sure I'd fancy putting 'glue' in the throttle :)
@@RocketMan_Moto It's not exactly a glue, although it will stick items together. It's a soft malleable putty, which you can mould into any shape you want, and you can use a bit of water to smooth the putty out. After about 24 hours, it becomes a very hard plastic, which can be cut, sanded, drilled or filed. It wouldn't be that difficult to fettle some small custom throttle spacers, obviously, you would need to do that outside the throttle body. It's better than paying over the odds for two little plastic parts, and then having to wait weeks for them to arrive. The stuff comes in very handy for other jobs as well. I once repaired a flimsy plastic fixing peg situated on the inside of a Honda CB125R tank cover, and was able to reinforce the other one before that broke, as well. They eventually break off, because you need to take the cover off every time you need to access the battery, what a pain! Sugru putty is very similar, but I've not use that stuff. I was quite impressed with Milliput putty though, it's very good. It comes in a variety of different colours, and is very handy for also sorts of little jobs. Saying that, I might look into buying a 3D printer, they've come down in price, and how handy do they look! You can get also sorts of free 3D printing files on the internet for them, as well. 👍
Fair enough. Interesting idea😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Here's 'AndyManCam' tidying up the rear end of his Honda CB1000R using some Sugru and Cling Film! ruclips.net/video/PdyAewlUkAs/видео.html
@@RocketMan_Moto You could smear the object you're working on with grease or petroleum jelly, which should stop the epoxy putty adhering to it, as well. I haven't tried it, but I think it should work. You could also use various objects as a moulds, such as a egg cup, or something like a the bottom of a glass, you get the idea. Or, even make your own custom mould if you're up to it!
i think its easy to make ...instead of buying this for that amout of money...
Probably if you have a 3D printer
I’ve seen people (cheap/ smarter than me) use small cable ties 🤔
Just installed mine last week on a '22. The bit fit the 2 special screws that hold the wire harness cover properly. The thing I noticed besides having tightened up the slop, is that the throttle action is much more snappy and it returns to the idle position perfectly everytime. This might explain why it actually works so good. Its gonna be very hard to achieve this somehow with a zip tie? Having the throttle return to the exact same position is critical on a drive by wire system.
Yes, not sure how a cable tie would fit, but an intriguing idea :)
Throttle play is irritating.
I agree. Solved now👍