Why was Toronto surprised at a warning? They're the ones who left their dugout first. I understand when people are grumpy after just being hit and then warned, but this makes sense (if you're not going to straight up eject players).
I was JUST watching bits and pieces of this brawl on MLB Network last night and I was cracking up when Blue Jays and Orioles going at it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They always crack me up when these 2 teams makes scenes.
I watched the game live on tv and that umpire strike zone was terrible all game. He called a ball in the upper right zone which you could clearly see was a strike
@@natemarroquinGausman clearly balked, there was no pause. The balls called during the at bat where Schneider was ejected were all correct. You again prove announcers are clueless.
@@priceright8963 it's not like it will stop them from retaliating, plus not being warned doesn't mean the pitcher won't get tossed if it looks intentional.
What’s the solution then if not the annoying warning? Clearly one or BOTH teams are agitated. Someone is going to throw inside after the macho show. So warn after that? After both teams get a chance to buzz the tower? The men in black are only following what MLB tells them to do. What’s your plan?
@@swoosh1428 I get the umps arent to blame there doing their job. I'm saying it's simple. If the ump thinks the batter was thrown at intentionally. Eject him. The pitcher can pitch inside and try to move the hitter off the plate but if it's an obvious message pitch or retaliation pitch . Eject him. Warning for what? It's already in the rule book about hitting batters intentionally
@@mikek6658 I think the idea behind the dreaded warning is to head off a bean ball BEFORE it happens. Determining intent is always tricky and always questioned. A warning is designed to get pitchers "intent" to get outs and not send messages.
@@swoosh1428 I get that. But it handicaps the team that did nothing but get thrown at and as a result there pitchers lose the ability to pitch inside and pitch aggressively. That's unfair
Bad umpires are bad for the game....biased umpires are completely unacceptable for the game (and Nelson clearly has a hate on for the Jays...not that MLB will do a thing about it, as usual)
@@63076topher I am focussing on waaaay more than the warning (actually, the warning meant nothing)....the Montoyo ejection earlier in the year was during the game where Nelson had THE most biased day behind the plate of any ump all season (according to the data)....and then he calls Gausman for an obviously pre-meditated balk call the very first chance he can? Come on....
@@63076topher Cool, so how come 1) That was only the 2nd balk all season that Gausman has been called for.....2) He was called for it, by Nelson, on the very 1st pitch of the game he threw with a runner on base....3) Gausman didn't change a thing, and was never called for another one the whole game.....(they showed video comparisons on the broadcast). That, my friend, is pre-meditation, if if you are ok with umps doing that, well.....
Let’s all be happy that an umpire that makes bad calls and holds grudges is protected by such a wonderful union. Umpires deciding the outcome instead of the players. But wait I’m not allowed to use any profanity here such as what I hear at an actual game. Hypocrisy every where you look.
I’m upset that an umpire can CLEARLY make a wrong call and if the player or manager objects they get thrown out of the game. Does the umpire suffer any sort of punishment? If your ok with that level of hypocrisy when you have millions of dollars on the line then what’s next? Maybe an election we can discount as well. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Nelson was awful last night…calling strikes way below the zone. His stance and head height make him look down at the zone so he’s gonna call me low…but that’s just an observation and he’s an MLB umpire after all. Wtv
Jeff Nelson is in the same club as Angel......needs to be fired ASAP by baseball, this will be the major diff for fans over the next few years, and MLB needs to address this problem asap as well.....these long tenured joke of an umpire trend needs to be over with, fans do not want to see an idiot making 70 - 80 thousand bucks a year making decisions on games that are worth millions of $$$ to economies of cities to waste on shitty calls because they dont care about their jobs anymore, talk about your quit culture, it even exists in baseball.....SAD
Love the "previously on" like I am watching some tv show. Excellent stuff here.
Some slick editing at the end to make it seem like Ben McDonald (Orioles analyst) was replying to Dan Shulman (Jays PBP).
Here's hoping you will also be covering the umpteenth plate blocking incident that came up in this game :)
Thought that watching live, but also like, what else is there to even say at this point?
Wouldn't surprise me if Jays fans miss Vic Carapazza the way Jeff Nelson's been treating their team this season.
Nope.
you couldn't be more wrong
lets hope we hit an odor tomorrow
I do not miss Vic Carapazza in the slightest, but Doug Eddings and Jeff Nelson have been atrocious to us all season..
Why was Toronto surprised at a warning? They're the ones who left their dugout first. I understand when people are grumpy after just being hit and then warned, but this makes sense (if you're not going to straight up eject players).
GO JAYS GO .......I LOVE the PASSION they have for the game.
I was JUST watching bits and pieces of this brawl on MLB Network last night and I was cracking up when Blue Jays and Orioles going at it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They always crack me up when these 2 teams makes scenes.
gotta love the new coach we finally have a reall looking coach
I watched the game live on tv and that umpire strike zone was terrible all game. He called a ball in the upper right zone which you could clearly see was a strike
Manny Gonzalez was awful too bro, horrible crew
This crew called the braves @ mets series, absolutely god awful.
John Schneider? Bo Duke is an MLB interim manager? ;)
Yanking free of his jersey like he meant business then leaning back into his restraining teammate is candidate for the cutest brawl move of 2022.
Yeah big tough guy also came up to the plate with runners on multiple times and had an 0-5 night with 3 Ks and a double play.
Once the jersey comes off he's like holy shit what do I do now!!!
Kinda sad that Schneider didn't his money's worth and set off the CCS chime.
Angel Hernandez is back at Philly
The coward puts wapping fingers to jays dugout then hides in Baltimore dugout, big tough pitcher
Funny how its "just hold me back "
Nelson made it about himself. End of conversation. He needs to be fined.
Absolutely agree with this. Umpires who make it about themselves don't belong in MLB, or any other level in baseball.
@@natemarroquinGausman clearly balked, there was no pause. The balls called during the at bat where Schneider was ejected were all correct. You again prove announcers are clueless.
Was waiting for odor to do an encore and pop teoscar
Wow that Hernandez guy was really mad. As soon as he was free to do what he wanted to do he lost interest. Typical baseball player!
Baker had sprinted to the safety of the dugout by that point
Missed opportunity for the announcers to say “Teo and Mateo” or something.
PLATE BLOCKING PLEASE!
The Blue Jays hitting off the Orioles this series has been tremendous. It’s almost like they know exactly what pitch is coming.
Can you "literally" hold somebody back by the jersey, when their jersey was already ripped off in a failed attempt to restrain them?
You can argue the skew was in Baltimore favourite.
I don't understand why they get so mad about being warned.
Because the team that got hit takes it as the umpires giving the other team a free shot.
@@priceright8963 it's not like it will stop them from retaliating, plus not being warned doesn't mean the pitcher won't get tossed if it looks intentional.
Let 'em fight.....blow out an elbow, knee, break your hand.......nope...ALWAYS the "hold me back coach" moment. Game is a JOKE.
Agreed. This fake "i wanna fight" bs needs to end.
Fighting umps, fighting each other, bench clearing.....let's see some big ass fines.
Cry cry cry
Godley & Creme?
Warning system causes more problems than not. If the ump thinks the pitcher throws at a hitter ,eject him. Warning system prevents nothing
What’s the solution then if not the annoying warning? Clearly one or BOTH teams are agitated. Someone is going to throw inside after the macho show. So warn after that? After both teams get a chance to buzz the tower? The men in black are only following what MLB tells them to do. What’s your plan?
@@swoosh1428 I get the umps arent to blame there doing their job. I'm saying it's simple. If the ump thinks the batter was thrown at intentionally. Eject him. The pitcher can pitch inside and try to move the hitter off the plate but if it's an obvious message pitch or retaliation pitch . Eject him. Warning for what? It's already in the rule book about hitting batters intentionally
@@mikek6658 I think the idea behind the dreaded warning is to head off a bean ball BEFORE it happens. Determining intent is always tricky and always questioned. A warning is designed to get pitchers "intent" to get outs and not send messages.
@@swoosh1428 I get that. But it handicaps the team that did nothing but get thrown at and as a result there pitchers lose the ability to pitch inside and pitch aggressively. That's unfair
@@mikek6658 I dunno, don't throw in the batters box where this fella is standing.
The blue jays and getting tossed from the game lol
Bad umpires are bad for the game....biased umpires are completely unacceptable for the game (and Nelson clearly has a hate on for the Jays...not that MLB will do a thing about it, as usual)
Than way warn BOLTH teams and not just them?
@@63076topher I am focussing on waaaay more than the warning (actually, the warning meant nothing)....the Montoyo ejection earlier in the year was during the game where Nelson had THE most biased day behind the plate of any ump all season (according to the data)....and then he calls Gausman for an obviously pre-meditated balk call the very first chance he can? Come on....
@@rc24caldwell19 A balk is a balk YOU MUST STOP before pitching.
@@63076topher Cool, so how come 1) That was only the 2nd balk all season that Gausman has been called for.....2) He was called for it, by Nelson, on the very 1st pitch of the game he threw with a runner on base....3) Gausman didn't change a thing, and was never called for another one the whole game.....(they showed video comparisons on the broadcast).
That, my friend, is pre-meditation, if if you are ok with umps doing that, well.....
@@rc24caldwell19 he did change his windup after that was called a balk, it was an illegal pitch all game just couldnt be called until a runner got on
Let’s all be happy that an umpire that makes bad calls and holds grudges is protected by such a wonderful union. Umpires deciding the outcome instead of the players. But wait I’m not allowed to use any profanity here such as what I hear at an actual game. Hypocrisy every where you look.
What happened sparky, did the big bad mean umpire eject your ass when you were 12, and you are still upset?
You have no idea skippy how much vile profanity is hurled at umpires by players and managers.
Where is your proof that Jeff Nelson holds grudges? When you make assumptions about people who you do not know you make an ass of yourself.
I’m upset that an umpire can CLEARLY make a wrong call and if the player or manager objects they get thrown out of the game. Does the umpire suffer any sort of punishment? If your ok with that level of hypocrisy when you have millions of dollars on the line then what’s next? Maybe an election we can discount as well. Hypocrisy at its finest.
@@janmunce496 uh what? Now umpires are stealing elections too?
Nelson has always been sketchy. He seriously has done some shady things against several teams consistently. JS was stupid for playing into it though.
Nelson was awful last night…calling strikes way below the zone. His stance and head height make him look down at the zone so he’s gonna call me low…but that’s just an observation and he’s an MLB umpire after all. Wtv
According to Ump Scorecard, he missed 2 pitches below the zone
Not a good call on the pitcher. That’s not good. Not Consistent what so ever.
Gausman clearly balked, there was no pause.
Jeff Nelson is in the same club as Angel......needs to be fired ASAP by baseball, this will be the major diff for fans over the next few years, and MLB needs to address this problem asap as well.....these long tenured joke of an umpire trend needs to be over with, fans do not want to see an idiot making 70 - 80 thousand bucks a year making decisions on games that are worth millions of $$$ to economies of cities to waste on shitty calls because they dont care about their jobs anymore, talk about your quit culture, it even exists in baseball.....SAD
Every umpire there decided to warn BOLTH teams not just one.
Umps make more than that, they make in to the 6 figures. Which makes this even worse.
A new umpire in the league may make $70,000, but you get a more experienced umpire and they make a good $300,000
@@scottythegreat1 And Nelson is one of the most experienced in the league and is the crew chief here.