Ejections 178-9 - Joe West ejects Blue Jays' Ryan Borucki for plunking Kevin Kiermaier in Tampa Bay
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- 3B Umpire and Crew Chief Joe West ejected Blue Jays pitcher Ryan Borucki and pitching coach-not-manager Pete Walker after Borucki hit Kevin Kiermaier with the first pitch of Tampa Bay's 8th inning. Report: www.closecalls...
Two days earlier, Kiemaier upon being tagged out to end a half inning on a play at the plate picked up a scouting card dropped by Toronto and took the card to the Rays dugout. The Blue Jays were reportedly upset after the incident occurred and Rays manager Kevin Cash issued an apology to Toronto skipper Charlie Montoyo.
Warnings had not previously been issued.
I think that tantrum by Pete Walker was mostly a result of some of the balls and strikes calls throughout the whole series and the Borucki ejection was his breaking point lol
That's what I've been saying too. The benches clearing and ejection gave him a chance to truly vent about everything that had happened that series. He probably also grilled the umpires for letting Kiermaier get away with cheating.
@@monsieurnoey2755 it's not cheating if you dropped the card and someone else picked it up💀
@@derektheseahawkslightningf2932 It is because it is the Jays scouting card. That means that the other team can use it to beat the Jays. You are really delusional if you think that isn't cheating.
@@tristanpotts3300 It's not cheating when he dropped a card with his whole gameplan LMAO. Kiermier just picked up what was on the ground, not his fault. That's like if an NFL team leaked all their audibles and hand signals to the other team, it's not the other teams fault
Is not cheating but its certainly unsporting and I'm a Rays fan
One thing I’ll say about Montoyo, he’s consistent 😂 dude has to win the Nicest Manager of the year award 🥇
He should take some notes from John Gibbons, at least Gibby would go out have a good beef and take his ejection. Montoyo needs to stick up for and protect his players better, or promote Pete Walker
he knew he was getting suspended for a game. so needed PW not to be tossed and suspended . don't blame him for trying to placate PW . actually very surprised that PW did not get tossed normally when you argue with ump you get tossed
@@barbwalker5972 he didn’t get tossed because the Umpires understand why the Jays hit Kiemeirer so they have to eject the pitcher so they’ll allow the manager or pitching coach to vent to an extent.
he's weak. Not nice.
@@beastman6666 - Protect the player who intentionally threw at a batter clear as day?
Lmao description says Pete Walker as manager, but honestly he has more passion than Montoyo so I can live with it lol.
Rays and Keirmaeir are cheaters
@@georgefloyd697 They should’ve protected that card better have it on your arm not were it can fall on the ground
@@bryanwhite5766 Thats a very low iq statement. It fell loose in a collision that ended the inning. If you watch the video keirmier clearly palmed it asap. Then a few minutes later when the rays were asked for it they flatly refused.
Thats literally Bush league cheating. You'd think after the Astros garbage that true baseball fans wouldn't tolerate this type of cheating.
You're not a fan, you're a #casual
Walker is not showing any passion. He is acting. He's a bad actor/pretending to be upset. It is a joke!
@@bryanwhite5766 Purely an equipment failure. Once it is on the ground . . . Cheating is probably stronger rhetoric than reality merits.
That is the politest ejection I have ever seen by joe west
Kinda tells me that Joe West thinks he deserved getting hit but has to also enforce the rules
No wind up and no follow thru. YOUR OUTTA HERE!
I know I was like dang he was smooth….🤣🤣🤣
@@ericgrimes341 that’s how you know it was intentionally
Yeah, anybody who thinks Pete Walker was simply pissed about the ejection did not see Dreckman’s strike zone yesterday (bad), or Joe West’s the night before (horrifically embarrassing)
yup pretty much shit brigade at work who givves a fuck a team is vying for post season while the other one pretty much already qualified
Joe West needs to retire. He was so out of it on the third base position in the game I saw him at earlier this year that I actually was concerned for his health.
Joe West has been consistently bad for a long time....he things the game is about himself....
or Kulpa's the day before. This was not a great series for the umps and their strike zones.
The ejection was 99% expected but they shouldn't suspend him. Some teams just have bad blood between the two and when you try to police it as an empire it's going to continue to boil over. Hopefully that pitch settled the dispute with him picking up cards that don't belong to him. Baseball is honestly similar to hockey where their is unspoken rules that aren't even rules in the actual game. Like I think theirs a rule if the pitcher is like 2 balls in or something you're not allowed to homer the third. Or something like that.
If you didn't know what it was, why would you give it to your mate in the dugout. LOL
He literally said he didn’t know what it was until he took a better look, then once he realized it was theirs he chose to keep it. It’s called gamesmanship, not cheating. Is it slimy? Sure. Would the Jays have done the same? You bet.
@@remi-D well said my friend
@@remi-D I actually think they would have given it back when the Rays asked but that’s just the opinion of someone who doesn’t like either team
@@remi-D no, its cheating, and he lied about it at first. MLB should be better than that, its not the NFL.
@@Teladian2 What rule did he break?
Douche move by the Ray's. They knew exactly what they did and full of it. Jay's responded with a text book plunking, they didn't kill him, but he got what he deserved. It's done. Move on.
Right. If you gonna hit somebody that's how you do it
This ain't golf - you wanna leave your game plan on the field, I'm gonna pick it up. That said, a plunking like that and the resulting ejection are exactly what you'd expect to follow, so you're right about everything else. Move on.
@@chrisoconor9314 he didn't leave anything. Kirk lost the card on a collision at home plate and KK took it before he even had a chance to realize it fell out of his wrist band. Such a comical take. The Rays acted like punks after it happened
@@Ok0707 Okay, buddy. You keep on believing in unicorns too.
Textbook?
So he got ejected
The jays lost one of if not their best pitchers who will be fined and suspended.
Yeah textbook. XD
That's showing them
Nothing unexpected here. I'd expect an opposing player to grab the card that was carelessly dropped on the field. I'd then expect him to get plunked after he advertises it. And I'd expect the pitcher to get thrown. No drama here, except that Jays coach that had too much caffeine.
I think Pete Walker was actually arguing the ball and strike calls Joe West made last night at home plate and Ron Kulpa the night prior. Both umpires had really horrible games and the calls were skewed in favor of the Rays. There were two walks that should've been strikeouts for Manoah. But Joe West called them balls. Kirk also struck out on a pitch that should've been a ball.
Monsieur Noey Jesus dude...Why are you here defending this guy in every comment thread? Do you work for him?
@@rickhaavisto9023 No, I'm just explaining to everyone why he seemed so mad.
Monsieur Noey So you are a mind reader?
@@monsieurnoey2755 Looks like three pitches were missed. Been seeing a lot of outside strikes called lately, like Kirk's. Hope he slept better getting it off his chest.
Great job by Joe keeping his calm when the Blue Jays pitching coach came out and you could see Joe tell the manager to get control of his coach. For newer umpires this is imperative that you don't argue or discuss anything with a coach and only the manager. This takes the heat off of the situation and now the manager has to deal with the coach and really deescalates the entire situation as you can see after the coach left Joe and the manager had a very civil conversation.
I think Pete is more mad about the questionable strike zones the 2 games prior. He just used this as an opportunity to tell the umpires.
No he was mad because he didn’t want to use another pitcher in a game that was already out of reach. Charlie Montoya even said that after the game.
@@nunyobizwax9225 That’s why I said “I think.” I didn’t say that’s actually what it was.
Kiermaier started it. Nuff said.
@Michael Brown no, its cheating and KK is a douche
So, you can't beat on a garbage can, but you can pick up a scouting card and it's not called cheating. Seems funny.
setting up a camera and a tv specifically to be able to beat cans every pitch every game is a bit different from picking up a scouting card when it drops in front of you. Also, it's not like that card lists every pitch in order.
Still, i agree that taking the card is poor sportsmanship - i wonder if eventually it will get put in the rules as cheating. Seems ot be football had a similar incident a while back (though i know how much CCS hates it when we mention football on a baseball rules question...)
Stealing the opposition's scouting card from catcher after a play is about as low and cheap as it gets. His excuse is garbage. I think Kevin can look forward to being plunked numerous times.
Ha, I personally think scouting cards themselves are cheating. What other sport allows crib notes like in high school?
Had he stolen it I'd have a problem but he just picked it up after the catcher dropped it. If you don't want someone looking at it don't leave it on the ground.
@@vw8886 Exactly. If you wanna carry your cards around it's on you to keep a hold of it. If you go losing it that's on you.
@@VisibilityFoggy a sport where a lot of info is easy to forget that a written note card is needed
@@mbdg6810 I agree but it's the catchers responsibility to not let it get lose. Don't be surprised if catchers start dropping fake scouting reports so people can't trust them.
Keimaier uses the same gynecologist as my sister.
How do you know that? Did you have the next appointment after your sister??
@@dougthegreat1808 she took a picture. You must be the guy that was holding his hand.😂
Would IT BE SAFE TO SAY THAT Kiermaier is now the NEW official ballpark WIENER !
Seems a well deserved plunking
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Walker was more pissed about the strike zone all week. It was over due.
This is classic September baseball. Why the F would they toss Borucki or worse suspend him? The Rays deserved it for stealing the card. Watch how sneaky Kiermaier is when he hands it to one of the coaches and gets casually stuffed into the hoodie's pocket. An eye for an eye - this is how professional sports stays balanced.
He warranted being tossed because he intentionally hit the batter. There was no doubt in anyone's mind in the stadium. If he wasn't tossed that simply opens the spigot - everyone is fair game. Suspension - that's for the union to argue.
@@Soon2BRev Tossed fine I get it....suspended is a bit extreme. Borucki has the cleanest record out there for a pitcher.
Kiermaier got exactly as deserved... He didn't head hunt but sent a message... Don't be a cheat and unsportsmanlike unless you want it between the blades
I know right like they could have given it back but they were assholes and didn’t I use to respect the rays as a team but now they are just a team full of assholes.
I hope the Jays see the Rays in the playoffs now and I don’t even like either team
Kiermier is lucky it was only 93
"It's natural to wonder" .. hahaha that was good.
Question for any trained umpires reading this:
You’re approached between innings by the manager of a team in the Blue Jays situation from the Monday game. He explains that an opposing player had picked up a scouting card which had fallen out of the uniform of one of his players during the course of play. The ersatz Blue Jays had asked the opposing team to return the card, and the opponents had refused to do so. He is asking you to intercede and require the opposing team to return the scouting card. Do you do so?
[Our hypothetical manager doesn’t think the situation is specifically covered in the rulebook, but knows that umpires have the authority to make rulings in such situations even if he can’t cite the exact rule (which I believe is 8.01 (c) ) ]
Rule 8.01 deals with pitcher's delivery
Yes
@@douglassepic9030 No, 8.01(c) says "Each umpire has authority to rule on any point not specifically
covered in these rules.".
Gordon, No, absolutely not. That is not the umpire's job.
Now Kiermaier is a blue jays I’m sure Kirk and him talked about that 😂
I believe many umps, including Joe West, would rather take heat for ejecting a pitcher (or any other player) late in a game that's been pretty much decided than to let things escalate into a brawl where 1 or more players get injured and/or suspended.
You say that as if Joe West doesn't like ejecting people?
@@cmkelly842, in Joe's case, he probably drools over his many chins at the opportunity.
Kiermaier should get a suspension for theft.
I cheer for neither team…Honestly, that’s some Astros type shit. Just give the card back, pretending like it won’t be a big deal is ridiculous, especially considering they are going to change it up now that you have it. Plunking was well deserved here.
BooHoo. Don't want the other team to know your scouting report, don't write it down on a card and leave leave the card at home plate. If you're the Rays, you know this is coming. Take your medicine and move on. This is a whole bunch of nothing.
@@mph7282 Astros fan? Lol
@@mph7282 actually this is a really big deal. Bet the Jays would have liked to have their manager tonight and with the player suspension likely getting upheld in a tight race for the playoffs, makes you think mlb needs to figure things out to not let something like this happen again. Too bad for the Jays and any of their fans
@@danthibodeau2058 I’m sure the Jays would like to have those guys. But losing them was their own choice, driven by their own carelessness.
@@mph7282 I didn’t see carelessness in the play. I did see a bad tag that almost cost the Jays an out at the plate. I just hope this doesn’t allow the Yankees to slide into the playoffs and even though I don’t even like the Jays, I would love to see those two teams go at it in the playoffs now!
Don't forget this is the same guy who almost killed his teammate in the outfield to try throw someone out and of course failed, must be a real clubhouse guy
Kiermaier is a douche, his post game comments really show his character. He knew exactly what it was and what he was doing and lied when he got caught.
The pitcher clearly and intentionally hit the batter on purpose and should be tossed out of the game. No questions asked>PERIOD.
Baseball rules are nice but the sheet that Kiermaier picked up is property of the other team. Taking and denying it to them is a crime. If you don't think that's an issue, why not have teams run in the opposing dugout and take their bats? The league should take action.
They didn’t steal it from the dugout , meat. You dropped it and didn’t secure it. They took advantage. Sack up and take responsibility
@@MM-qi5mk It's still property. I didn't drop it. Lost property still has protection especially 2 seconds later, when you know who the owner is.
Pete walker was 100% due to the last 2 games strike zone. Also maybe becuase Cash got in a argument before the ejection to borucki which the umpires should get to get her before a argument can happen
Also the whole thing with KK and him not knowing etc is bush. Yea I took it and I know it's not mine since they asked for it but I'm not gonna give it back, oh I swear I didn't look at it
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The only thing Borucki did wrong was throwing it a bit low. Good on the Blue Jays congratulating him for sticking up for them.
Taking a card should not make it ok to injury a player by hitting him in the back.
Sticking up for them?! I didn't see TB do anything to Toronto that needed to be stuck up for. I guarantee u that their ain't nothing on Toronto cheat sheet that the Ray's already know that they have on them.
@@crazyand2099 talk about my iq...lmao. Listen bud with this day and age of shifting plus analytics that each team has a team that breaks down their own team. Also where do think Montoya learns what he knows about the game from? 21 years with the Rays might give that away. Learn the game before running ur mouth cause people with no knowledge of how the game is played should just shut up
Kiermier should get suspended too because what he . It was intentional because he knew what it was.
100%
MLB really needs to rescind this get together and talk about it before the ejection
Definitely speeds up the game and that’s why baseball is growing in interest and is so much fun to watch on TV
Best 2 takes from this clip watching it in hindsight one year later:
1. Montoya is not the manager now
2. Kiermaeir is now a beloved Blue Jays glove 😂
The entire Umpires were bias. Good Jobs Pete stand up for the pitching staff. Charlie moves away
waiting for Jomboy’s reaction
Well deserved! Kiermaier knew exactly what he had and you can see him give the card to the coach and tell him what it is.
Leave the lip reading to Jomboy.
And he should leave the baseball analysis to Gil
Rays steal the game plan from the Jays then go full snowflake when the thief gets hit
Nothing was stolen. Kiermaier picked up a card off the ground. This isn't like when Marsha Brady's boyfriend stole the Westday High School football playbook from her orange breakfast table.
@@mph7282 are you intellectually stunted? This isn't 5th grade, finders keepers rules. That card had the Jay's strategy for pitching on it, they asked for it back within minutes once they realized it was knocked loose.
It became theft when the Rays refused to give it back. Thats literally theft for the purpose of cheating.
Its #casual fans like you that give the Astros and cheating in general a free pass. What a job your mother did, raising you with no basic morals or decency.
@@mph7282 must be a Rays fan. Loser
@@georgefloyd697 If it was cheating something would've been done about it. Don't drop your cards losers
@@derektheseahawkslightningf2932 did u see how they collided it was knocked loose it's not like he took the armband off on purpose. The way I see it, the rays stole equipment from the jays.
great pitch
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I absolutely support Toronto on this.. that's the least they can do..
Can Buck go work for the Rays, We don’t want him anymore
Lots of high fives in the dugout. George Springer didn't really look into it though.
Springer taking the moral high ground.
Comical.
Springer was the next Bluejay batter to bat in the 9th. He has been dealing with a lot of injuries. I'm sure he worried that he would be thrown at.
@@jackiesee1907 i see what youre saying now. That makes sense
Springer was worried about being thrown at I think.
Only issue I have is that the ball didn't hit him alot higher up. Cheating piece of crap deserves it.
Have fun golfing in offseason.
Picking up what you think is trash or your property is not cheating he didn't look at it.
@@63076topher I'm a Rays fan who loves to watch Kiermaier play, and I don't have a problem with picking up whatever some careless opposing player leaves on the field, but let's not pretend his excuse was legit.
@@63076topher If he had returned it when asked, and not handed it off to a Tampa staffer to run to a xerox machine or a camera phone while offering a rambling excuse, I wouldn't have the issue. This was cheating, plain and simple. This required payback and he got it.
Lol I’m using that coffee machine joke
Umpiring was bush league the entire series . Joe West’s crew is the worst in the league by far
It was truly horrendous these few games. Joe West is retiring, which is good because he's embarrassing himself.
@@monsieurnoey2755 absolutely paid off by NYY
@@monsieurnoey2755 Ron Kulpa needs to follow him into retirement. I will look to that first game if Toronto misses the wild card by 1 games. It was clear intentional bias on his part and I am not sure how it's not a story.
Also Buck Martinez is a clown for saying it's not a good look for the Jays. Every Jay fan everywhere loved it
wait did the blue jays catch drop the card again in this video or was that from last night?
That's just Jansen adjusting his gear. He probably put that on the ground so he had a hand free.
He put it down when the benches cleared. Some of the media here in Toronto said they think he did it to troll the Rays. Haven’t seen anything from him yet to confirm or deny if that’s what he was trying to do though.
Joe West still ruining baseball games after all these years
Notice how George Springer did not show empathy towards Borucki because he knows that Borucki is the reason Springer might get thrown at in the 9th inning.
Every now and again, even Joe West gets one right.
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Amazing how the Rays announcers gloss over the real reason he got plunked. If you find something that isn't yours, give it back. A true test of someone's honesty and sportsmanship. Kevin Kiermaier now has that to carry around with him for the rest of his career.
How is this cheating not getting blown up like the Astros … when it actually happened right in front of everyone
It’s not cheating.
You are comparing taking a team’s intel they left on the ground to using video cameras to steal signs ahead of time?
@@rickhaavisto9023 thank you for saying that. Its not the same comparison
Has Joe West lost weight? He looks like it. Of course he hit him intentionally.
As an umpire that doesn’t do MLB ball, that looks like Monday Night Raw brawl!😂😂 I know the relationship between umpires and managers in MLB are different than any other league, but I may have tossed the whole bunch!😂😂😂
Toss Kiermaier. Cheaters shouldn't be playing the game.
@@monsieurnoey2755 Yeah, he cheated by picking up a cheat card that another guy dropped and left behind... yawn.
is that guy talking in his real voice?
"Someone needs to unplug the coffee machine" HAHAHAHAHAHAA
Wish we could eject Buck from the broadcast. Time has passed him by.
How are the Rays so good but no one in Tampa goes to their games?
I guess they"re tired of winning in Tampa (Bucs and Lightning). Also the stadium sucks
Tropicana Field is a dump of a stadium in a sketch, at best, part of St. Pete. The Rays are hoping to get a new stadium build in Tampa proper, but that may be a few years away.
I drive 2 hours from Fort Myers every few weeks to get to a game, but Tampa residents are a bunch of babies who don't want to sit in traffic for more than half an hour to get to St. Pete. If they build a stadium in Tampa, the fans might come. Another problem is Florida fans have divided loyalties to all the other grapefruit league teams, and in Tampa especially to the Yankees. But the politics of the Bay area are such that it's going to take a miracle to make a new stadium happen.
I was at the game. Jays fan here. I love the Rays tix prices though. Best damn game prices in MLB baseball. I've sat 5 rows behind Jays dugout at the Trop for $20 one game, and yesterday $10 for front row on the center field wall with players just 10-15 feet away. Love the situation at the Trop even though I can't stand the Rays. I don't miss a game when Toronto is in town.
😂😂😂😂
There are consequences for cheating plain and simple.
Nobody was cheating.
@@crazyand2099 wow over scouting report and the jays are mad because he took it? Maybe remeber it and not bring it in the field of play. Thats his fault. Stop crying like a bunch of babies because thry might make it to the postseason and wont probably make it that far anyway
@@crazyand2099 But it's not cheating.
@@crazyand2099 It wasn't either of those. Had he taken off the catcher I would agree but it was just laying on the ground.
@@crazyand2099 He admitted to having it. Catcher needs to secure it if he doesn't want someone looking at it. It's really not a big deal.
This is the Jays’ own fault. If Kirk hadn’t dropped the card, this doesn’t happen
I saw this ejection and I was dying laughing so hard.
It was hysterical
I notice a possible flaw in suspending players and maybe managers or coaches. If the player or non-player gets suspended then it is more than likely that he will be serving the suspension while his team is playing a(some) team(teams) other than the team that was the "victim" of the offense that the player or non-player was suspended for. I think that is something MLB needs to look into. What if that pitcher is suspended while his team is playing another team that is still in the hunt for the playoffs just like the Rays? That other team would actually get to take advantage of the Blue Jays team's weakened pitching staff rather than the Rays.
"He's just protecting players"
There can be absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind this was intentional. This is a batter that stands well off the plate its a fast ball in between the numbers. He didn't throw at his head so let's hope he's not suspended but he defs needs to be ejected
Ray's will forever has an asterisk next to the 2021 season. Cheaters are cheaters just like the astros.
This is Joe West last season anyways
Really? If so good wish it was Hernandez's last season
yeah thats a shame, won't see as stern and strict an umpire who also makes the correct call and is accurate anymore in the game of baseball
Keirmeir should get plunked on every at bat vs the Jays. If the league won't handle cheating someone needs to.
😲 That’s harsh. I do think better rules need implemented around these wristbands now that they seem to definitely be a thing.
05.05.2023 So what happened? Did the pitcher get fined and suspended?
Umpirical Brain Fart Brigade led by west was pro rays whole fucking series fact we managed to get a win is a bloody miracle
Its never good for an ump to eject a player from the opposite side (in this case blue jays) after listening to the opposition (rays) manager.
@@mbdg6810 exactly can we say westie's tots pro rays
So, let me get this right. The umpires are REQUIRED to convene on a hit batter situation and are within their rights to eject a pitcher if they judge the act to be intentional. Teams and managers and coaches know this rule and they still go ape when a pitcher gets tossed for it. Makes sense. 🤦🏼♂️
Pete Walker was actually going off on the umps about their terrible home plate ball/strike calling. It's been horrendous this series. It was skewed massively for the Rays.
Monsieur Noey Dude...we get it the first time you post it...the fourth time doesn’t make it more effective...
You do know the Ron Kulpa may very well have cost the Blue Jays game one of the series with his horrendous strike zone, now the jays are out of the wild card spot they held. He literally decided the game in the ninth inning and there is no arguing that. I guarantee you that had more to do with this than anything else.
Craig Veillette Ah yes. My team didn’t win , I want to hold someone accountable...who’s left.
Ooohhh. The umpire didn’t have a good night, let’s all go after him!!!
@@rickhaavisto9023 If you watched that 9th inning, you wouldn’t be defending the absolutely incompetent Ron Kulpa. He decided that game and only an idiot who doesn’t know what he is talking about who argue that.
It's funny that this recording is totally all Rays announcers. If course they didn't like what happened. Keirmeier should have given it back.
how is kiermaer gonna try to be slick with the card ? there’s literally cameras everywhere
One act of unsportsmanlike conduct deserves another, you go Borucki!
My Question is, What did Vladdy give to the bat boy to send over to the Rays at the end of the game.
Umpires had an effect in this series..the whole series…they jobbed theJays repeatedly
Haha. Blue Jays always crying. They'll be on holiday in October
Springers thinking , oh crap I’m next. 😣
What are they argueing for lol deliberately threw the ball at his back
Why isn't the rays coach more worried about his player being a thief and a cheater? I guess they player takes after the coach.
Country Joe its time for you to go on a permanent vacation
guy got what he had coming and it couldnt have come at a better time... Wish it was about 98 though 🤷♂️😂
What bothers me is not that they threw at Kiermaier. He knew what he did was wrong. What bothers me is Montoyo's press conference after the previous game.
Water under the bridge, my ass. Everyone saw the retaliation coming from three continents away.
That was before the game. Get your facts together
What's Montoyo to do? Announce at the previous game press conference that he has an axe to grind, and in retaliation is going to strike back and intentionally plunk Kiermaier? Whether it was or it wasn't water under the bridge Montoyo was wise to not be so obvious on outright intent.
@@mattmercer7607 Montoyo should've just given a non-answer instead.
The Rays are a joke of an organization.
I was at the game. Kiermaier deserved to get plunked. The guy is a total ass. Even some of his own Rays teammates cannot stand him. As a centerfielder he plays the entire outfield as though he doesn't trust his left or his right fielder. Stealing Toronto's Scouting Card, and then refusing to give it back is what got him a 93 mph pitch to his back. I sat in center field yesterday first row along the homerun wall. In the pre-game practice a ball landed a few feet away. Our entire section were asking Kiermaier for the ball, even waiting five minutes for him to come over and give the ball away to someone in our seating section. The dude pretended he was going to give the ball away to fans, and then simply walked away with the ball telling fans he didn't owe them crap. He was either in a bad mood, attitude already pre-game or Kiermaier is just plain a jerk. Randy Arozarena, the Tampa Bay Left Fielder is a whole different person. He was throwing balls into the stands for fans the entire day. Randy is a class act. Kiermaier is an arrogant ass. Some bad Karma came back to Kiermaier today.
if what you're saying is true then I don't see some type of retaliation from his teammates except KK and the Blue Jays !
Arozarena is great. Future superstar possibly! Kiermaier is a narcistic piece of shit.
Forgive my ignorance on this topic…the catcher had a pocket sized game plan that he abandoned on the field of play…directly in front of the opponent. The runner picked it up (it looked like a piece of trash). Whether he knew what it was or not….what rule did this violate? Why wasn’t this covered in the video?
You are forgiven. Identifying a problem is the first step in the process of rectifying it. How about when the players drop their bats, the other team takes that too? Honestly, Kiermaier did what he thought was right for his team in the situation, and the Jays in turn did what they thought was right. Action, reaction. Maybe the next time he'll recall getting hit before grabbing "trash" off the ground. (take one for the team, right?)
Justified ejection. Gotta be more discreet.
Jays successfully got the message across. Hit him in one of the best places for revenge. Kiermaier, just don't cheat, then you won't get hit. One of the most well executed retaliatory HBP's I've ever seen.
@@monsieurnoey2755 Picking up something you think is yours is not cheating.
@@63076topher Refusing to give back something that isn't yours after they asked for it back is loser energy. Kiermaier deserved every bit of it
I do not care if the Jays lost, well deserved hit by pitch, wish Romano would ve done it with the 100mph
93 mph ain't bad speed to the back. Kaiermaier deserved it. I was at the game yesterday. Even Kaiermaier's own fellow Rays outfielders are put off by him and often frustrated. Kevin's a douchbag.
If you’re gonna talk trash about a person spell his name right it’s not “kairmaier” it’s “kiermaier”
Was this a double or triple ejection? I know the pitcher got ejected, but did the Manager, Charlie Montoya, due to it being viewed as deliberate, similar to an ejection after Warnings? What about Pete Walker, was he ejected due to his reaction?
I don't think Montoya was ejected. There were no warnings given prior to the plunk. Warnings might have been issued afterward, in which case violations would have led to managers being ejected as well.
Sarah Rogers They had it in the previous intentional HBP ejections, but warnings are automatic after a pitcher is ejected due to an intentional HBP.
Should've been three. If I have the rule book, the manager is tossed on an intentional HBP regardless of warnings.
I don’t think Montoyo got ejected. They had a shot of him still in the dugout in the top of the 9th when the Jays were batting.
@@michaelfalkner1186 It's been explained on previous ejection videos (the most recent explanation was following Tony LaRussa's ejection last week, linked at end of reply; around the 2m23s mark of the video) under Rule 6.02(c)(9):
"(9) Intentionally Pitch at the Batter.
(1) If, in the umpire’s judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may elect either to:
(A) Expel the pitcher, *or* the manager and the pitcher,
from the game, or
(B) may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or a replacement) and the manager.
If, in the umpire’s judgment, circumstances warrant, both
teams may be officially “warned” prior to the game or at any time during the game."
The aforementioned LaRussa ejection video (the link takes you to the start of the analysis of 6.02(c)(9)):
ruclips.net/video/EtKgeBNOmxg/видео.html
B.S. it was intentional, but I don't toss a pitcher here. It's the only way to make a point in baseball. I like, warn after this pitch. Everything is good. And picking up the card? Duh.
Reading other comments, I'm missing context. But I still think you don't need to eject when everyone knows this is a likely event here. But, I suppose an umpire needs to be consistent and simply apply the rules. It was certainly intentional and if your catcher drops his card... no way I'm not picking it up.
How did Culpa and West end up on the same crew wtf smh
Blue Jays announcers trying to say it wasn't intentional or that the umpires could have just ignored it is comical.. Also, why hit a guy when the card fell out on the field? maybe don't have cards in the wristbands that explain the whole gameplan? (this is coming from somebody who hates wristbands in baseball and softball in my defense)
Yep. That pitch was a heat-seeking missile.
Just grow up, he intended to hit him in the back and not the head
The pitching coach was so mad because he didn’t want to use another picture from the bullpen. At this point of the season every picture is meaningful. You want to save your pictures for games that are either very close or if your in the lead and you need a good save. The Rays player should never have STOLE the scouting card.
Picture? Do You Mean Pitcher???
@@brianmug1624 no I mean picture… what the fuck do you think I meant??
Nunyo Bizwax A picture is another term for photo...
@@brianmug1624 😂😂😂
@@rickhaavisto9023 lmao really? Wow I didn’t know that LOL
You know what...it's 7to1...the Ray's could have just had the "little thief "....sit for the rest of the game....if he didn't want to get hit....
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If anybody else did that at their workplace, what would happen?
I'm a Rays fan but I just lost a lot of respect for KK. Anyone should want to beat the opponent fair and square and this is just flat out low and dishonest.
That's been KKs reputation with other teams. Jomboy did a breakdown on him stealing fly balls from the other outfielders and the comments on that video are full of Kiermaier stans.
I need a jomboy vid about this