Dragon-king Thordan Theme "Revenge Twofold (Orchestral Version)" - FFXIV OST
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Theres something about hearing the lyrics "Guide us, O mighty fury, Guide us to victory" In the last phase of an ultimate, it just feels so epic because thats the mood towards the end!! To victory!!!
Alongside the chanting
"No Forgiveness!"
"No Deliverance!"
"Only JUSTICE!"
"ONLY *_VENGEANCE!"_*
Thordan: "Showing mercy, Warrior of Light? You're getting *sloppy."*
we cant escape the sloppy
SLOPPEH
no, not the sloppeh!
Warrior of Light: **Enters Enrage State**
This was one of my favorite songs back in HW and I'm so happy they did such a beautiful remaster of it.
This song was originally released back in 2019. It was included in their first orchestral album
@@noxerator1 Pretty sure they meant the original arrangement released back in HW
The funny thing is I heard Revenge Twofold was rejected for Final Steps as not being epic enough, thus it becoming dungeon boss music.
And honestly, a fair decision. I like how both Revenge Twofold and Revenge of the Horde played out.
Finished this fight over 3 weeks ago after progging casually for 6 months, this song still gives me the tingles listening to it again
I don't think any other fight in the game will match the atmosphere of DK-Thordan on your way to a first clear. The story of the fight leading up to him, the sheer damage he puts out, the mechanics that have zero margin for error, his design, the music...
Golden Bahamut, UWU Ultima, and Perfect Alexander did it better.
DSR has you killing Thordan, then you beat him up enough he has to beg on his knees for mercy, then you fight him again and NOW you kill him... again. Great climax. I'm sure you could throw in another Thordan to beat up and nobody would bat an eye. You also take breaks from beating up the grandpa to go fuck off and fight Nidhogg a few times, as filler content because Thordan really isn't that much of a grand finale on his own. DK Thordan isn't the main enemy you've been setting out to defeat the whole time; he just so happens to show up and there just so happens to not be any more bosses afterwards. It says something that his name isn't even in the Ultimate's title, unlike every other one including The Omega Protocol.
Meanwhile in UCoB, you dont even get close to killing Bahamut that early on in the fight. You have to survive assault after assault from him and his minions time and time again, only to still be unable to stop him from killing you all with Teraflare. Only then do you get the chance to even get close to killing him, with one of the most intense mitigation checks in the game.
@@trustytrest fighting a boss multiple times is better than fighting them once.
@@trustytrest this is a senseless arguement that disregards context. no one was making this a competition you putz.
@@trustytrest to be fair, dsr is supposed to be following the Heavensward story, of course you're gonna fight thordan a couple times, during the right timeline and the alternate one, there's a reason it's not thordan ultimate
@@trustytrestway to miss the entire point of this ultimate's plot sped🥱
I will always remember this music as when we have to do Heroic Gate Stand and attack the lifegate while this music blares and we're fighting against diablos
Then the Dragonball Z beam struggle....even though Dun Scaith is borderline annoying, this singular fight makes it all worth it.
@@asteroidxarmageddon2354 And then right after, we have to deal with the wifu nom nom moment.
"OH NO! He's gonna EAT HER!"
"And then he's gonna eat ME!!"
I don't think I'll ever get good enough to where I'd be able to finish that fight from start to finish...but I have watched it, and it is very interesting to see a 'what if' scenario play out in such a fashion, even though Thordan's end is still guaranteed. This alternate history is much more messed up though compared to how things go throughout Heavensward. Thanks for uploading this though, love this music!
Its not that complicated. U just take your time learning each phase
It never hurts to try. Don't get intimidated by groups asking about perfect parses or 90's in savage. Damage only gets you so far in ultimates. It's all about learning the mechanics, and the right timing to use your strongest abilities to help you get through. I never thought I could savage or ultimates either, yet I started doing it and completing them. You just need to find the right group that you flow with.
It’s more of an endurance thing than anything else imo. ultimate mechs are straight forward to do. You just have 15 to 20 mins of them back to back and have to remember every single possibility of every mech. Which just takes time. I also never thought I could clear an ultimate, but I did it and it’s not as bad as people say it is. Still definitely difficult but just a time investment.
Let's be real. 90% of players just use Dalamud (Or whatever else people use to cheat.) to install many plugins and mods. It's the dark side of FFXIV. A lot of players are cheating in some way, they just try not to expose that. That makes it much easier for a lot of players to stand a chance in these fights. There's only a slight learning curve, if any at all. Just find a group of PC players from a discord group that know the call outs thanks to mods and you'll win. (I fixed my comment because I was right the whole time.)
@@silenceundying I play on pc, started on ps3, and the only mods I use are effects boosts to make my blm and smn spells look even cooler.
The game is really easy to read. The top people that clear these fights for world first almost have UI mods that tweak the layout a little and add timers to the ogcd actions.
The only advantage pc gives you is that I have a keyboard to type in chat. I even use controller while playing
I hope we can get similar content in the future as “what if” stories for Ultimates. What should be next? And subsequently, what theme should they do?
What if: Zenos and Shinryu fused with Omega to form Cyber Shinryu!
Zenos becoming Zodiark instead of Fandaniel would be pretty scary. Reaper/Shinryu/Zodiark combination.
I hope we can suplex the ghost train.
What if: an alternative version of us succumbed to the light and became a LightWarden, and we were summoned to essentially destroy ourselves?
I hope for mashup of Elidibus!WoL vs Endsinger
This is from the eorzia symphony rendition, you can also find symphonic takes on omega, shinryu, and Hades' themes as well if you look them up.
Ahh, thanks for the info. I had a feeling this was from somewhere else, like with the Ultima tracks.
Extra side note: only the Symphonic version of From The Heavens has written lyrics by Koji
@@MarakamiSG The same goes for Ultima, Revenge Twofold, Heroes (not all the same lyrics as Heavensward), The Worm's Tail, and Invincible. The original versions of all these don't have actual lyrics and they get lyrics written for the Eorzean Symphony versions. We'll soon get real lyrics for Endcaller as well.
I'm all for more What-If scenarios!
I love how it gets all quiet for the horns at 1:16
A PAAAAAAAAIN WITHOUT CEEEEEEEEEEEEASE
*party dies to alternate end*
Heavensward has themes that immediately give me goosebumps and bring me to tears. This one comes on and I’m just swept away.
i'm glad i can use this song to wake up.
Just cleared this fight yesterday and I was so focused I could only partially enjoy the music. Thank you for uploading this!
It's gonna be a while, but I hope to eventually go through this Ultimate with my FC. Gotta do tons of prep first, though
Given that alternate timelines are cannon I like to believe that this scenario did happen somewhere in a alternate history.
Thinking on it there are some dark concepts with that in general, mostly in regards to Estinien, whom in this timeline appears to have been killed by Nidhogg or was otherwise incapacitated, meaning several of the key things he does in later patches never happens.
@@Kalanin399 king thordan & Estinien was a walking calamity waiting to happen regardless because king thordan may have been a primal but the fact remains that using Nidhogg eyes may have run the risk of getting mind control by the dragon & it sounds like he wanted to rule the world.
@@Nikoli492 Indeed. Using the eyes of perhaps the most Aetherically dense creatures in the entirety of XIV is probably not a recipe for good things to happen.
My main thinking was that because Nidhogg appears in Phase 5 after you beat Thordan. He has both eyes, implying he either defeated Estinien (likely while we fought Thordan) and later claimed the eye in Ascalon, or that Estinien was taken over and consumed by him afterwards. In either case, it implies Estinien is gone after the events that happen in the Churning Mists, and that actually means that there would be added urgency to events during stormblood and shadowbringers because Estinien's actions there help to slow the progress of the Garlean empire.
Obviously there's also the stuff in Endwalker that he's kinda critical for but those are other fun bits to think on.
@@Kalanin399 The eyes are destroyed with Thordan here, since he consumed them, so Shinryu is never summoned in the first place to kick off Stormblood. So who knows where this TL will ever end up going! I feel like it would just end in the 8th umbral with black rose, like the original timeline did.
@@hathuiv1975 Kinda hard to say since with Shinryu never being summon papalymo would still be alive which could give the scions a better advantage in numbers.
When you get to P7 (last phase of this fight), this music hits different. The fact that this was a generic dungeon/trial music from Heavensward, it echoes the fight's Final Test.
P7 isn't hard, in fact it's probably the easiest... But getting there is hard. This OST is like the sound of Victory Lap, but the lap doesn't allow for any mistakes.
Such a glorious experience
I have this song playing only and during when im lifting heavy. So hype
Still the GOAT regular boss theme in FF14.
Didn't play 6.2 yet, but Vrtra needs a theme like this to go ham to in 6.X.
Weirdly, my brain associates even this version of it with Palace's 180 Behemoth
Hardest part of fights like these. Is finding people to do it with.
It's been a real static breaker, I've heard multiple horror stories of groups getting stuck and destroying friendships...
especially when you work evening shift and gotta find a morning static in NA
200IQ comment.
@@akreondorplasy7782 Oof
@@uvi- If all it takes to destroy a friendship is this boss in a game then they weren't much of a friend to begin with. Some people really need to get their priorities straight and handle situations better. Sucks to hear it though.
grats bro
わーお！オメガのBGM入ってる！まじ神曲すぎて鳥肌たつぐらいいい曲！😊
It's sad to think that we'll honestly probably never hear this ever again in game
Never say never! Maybe somewhere later we'll get a callback
THE GLORY IS MINE
Nice as of 4:44 PM Thursday October 27th 2022 this video has exactly 69,000 views , 658 likes and was posted two months ago with the uploader having 3.8k subscribers.
Yay.
Dang, I missed the moment where it had 69,420 views. I'm overwhelmed with regret
too socially awkward+bad for extreme/savage/ultimate content but this is baller as hell. surprised they did this theme out of all of them
SPOILERS
That scene when the crowd at the peace conference chanted "Death to Niddhogg" was not a cry for vengeance, but for true justice for the peace they long for a thousand years was nearly taken from them.
Once I've cleareed TOP - I really want to do DSR again. This. This fight for me was more of a highlight/enjoyable than TEA, and that's saying something.
Yo holy crap, it's Vespi Celestine. I haven't seen that name in YEARS. Tell her I said hi - Pocket Kouhai
oh god GRAND MASTODON AND DREW SUNDANCE. Man I didn't notice their names until right after I made the previous comment. Yall are beautiful people, congrats on dsr and I hope you did the same in top
@@fergernator hi
@@grandmastodon2848 It's ya boi. Grand Mastodon. It is I, pocket kouhai
LMAO, i got attracted and joined the game because of DSR, after like half year i cleared it, who would know what will happen in the future, i never thought i would be able to do this shit.
for me, it's the timpani.
I'm not an ULTRA fan of ff14 ..
But I need to give to them ... That expansion was LIT AF.
The combination of story + boss fight + this GOD TIER music..
It just felt... Another level.. I wish more game devs realize that music makes almost half of the immersion if not more..
> me wondering how MrHazak got a copy of FFXVI early
@@MarakamiSG yea I completely forgot the number on that ff auehueahehaeauea
My static is a slower one so we've never done ultimates, but I would kill to do this one and TEA for the music alone.
this song a hood classic in the bramge household 🦩🔥🔥
Congrats on the Quad!
This hit different if you play on 2x
For me XIV peaked here. At 6.1.
Riding that high from the 6.0 msq, DSR was an amazing ult, and the first alliance raid was also great.
After this it was all downhill, the 6.2 Abyssos balancing shit, TOP being one of the worst encounters I have ever done, and the godawful PLD changes...
Just took a look at the 7.0 job changes... And I am so glad that I decided to quit after 6.3.
Oh my god, who the hell cares?
@@G-Manfromhalflife there's no need to get butthurt over an opinion, you sound like a fcking kid
Aren't you sick of pressing L2+R2 on every single gcd for Glare?
It's what I'm used to at this point. Old habits die hard
@@uvi- I had the same setup when i started in HW. I was quite casual back then (and with the 2000ms from being in Japan didn't help xD), but when I moved back and started tackling Savages, at some point, during last tier omega if I recall, I noticed that my all my ogcd CD were out of sight 90% of the time because well... I was pressing R2+L2 90% of the time! Which actually was annoying.
So I actually swapped my gcd's position. I put all GCD heals on L2+R2 (and other rarely used skills) and my most common skills on R2.
I guess you're on TOP now (i hope it's going well), clearly not a good time to change. But I took the habit to change every expansion just to improve my overall comfort. It's surprising how quick muscle memory can actually adapt. Maybe you should give it a try for 7.0!
Best luck for TOP! (DSR almost done for me T_T maybe this week-end...)
is ther an orchestrian roll for this? if so how do i get it.
When you wipe so many times to this the music no longer gives that buzz
the thing that amaze me is how easy this part of the fight is.
by looking at it feels like Ex1
The final phase of an ultimate is usually a "victory lap" of sorts. Fewer things to mess up, but those mess ups are still just as punishing (i.e. most likely a wipe). And you don't wanna be the guy who forced a reset 18 minutes into a pull :'D
@@uvi- When the silence hits just as the final phase is starting. Adrenaline is there. Hands are shaking. You try to remind yourself to take a breath. You look at the bosses hp and it's at 20% and you wonder when the last time you blinked or took a breath was...
It's an addicting feeling.
@@uvi- i realize that a mistake here is a lifetime of pain. But i'm so hyped I wanna try it
the shakies of getting into the "victory lap" of a 18 minute hardcore fight are the biggest debuff into ultimate final phase. And to be fair DSR has brutal heal/mit checks WHILE MOVING, something that is definitely harder than previous ultimates
@@caioken In this ultimate its best to bring classes that can afford multiple mitigations and heals free of casting
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YO AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN HEAR THE STAR WOLF STAR FOX THEME IN THIS!??! YOOOOOOOOOO 1:58
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I cannot fucking believe you put that in my head now omfg
I just noticed that this person played a healer using a controller. Now I am a casual player so I don't participate in these kinds of content. The best I do is EX Trials (not ex raids nor ultimate). But I have heard things here and there. One of them being healers need to play on keyboard to do go in fights like these.
There are many things I've been told are necessary which I don't do, like "You have to play on KB+M" and "You have to turn effects off" and "You have to put pants on"
@@uvi- go against the norms and prove them wrong with what you can do! I believe!
I do savage content as a sage and I play on my ps5 with a controller. I can’t function with a keyboard lol
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666 makes me think of ifrit and seeing as FF 16 just came out figured it Worth noting lol
White dragon knight, Vortigern
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I love this fight and this music is amazing.
BUT! It just isn't thordans song, honestly i was pretty sad when i realized that the entire fight there was only 1 new song being this one, while this is a good song, it just doesnt really hit it for me that well, placing the normal dungeon boss theme remix as final boss for DK thordan is just pretty meh, since it doesnt feel that special in a sense because its not HIS theme, its just A theme.
And before people start flaming me for some bullshit about ultimate music, do understand that the music is fine, but it couldve been better if it was more personal like how they used ultimas theme in UWU instead of "torn from the heavens" or something
It's funny, because for the Extreme they composed an entire new song, Heroes Never Die, for it. Yet for an ULTIMATE, they couldn't be bothered to even remaster his Extreme song so they just used some orchestral dungeon boss theme from a few years ago. They also didn't bother to give him a new boss model either, just shrinking and reskinning Thunder God.
It's pretty obvious how rushed this Ultimate was, even though it took the longest to develop. Makes you wonder how much the devs scrapped for DSR if this is the results.
@@trustytrest yeah, this is just my opinion but i think SE is getting lazier and lazier when it comes to content, the fact that we only get 1 dungeon each patch and overall quality of dungeons is getting bit stale.
then comes the ultimates but i can kind of forget the reused models since that can be pain in the ass for a fight that only hardcore-midcore players will ever touch/clear, but music in this game is sacred to me, so i was really expecting new banging music tracks but have to say that i was pretty dissapointed, woudln't even have needed to be new music, but the fact that they used dungeon boss music instead of thordans own music is pretty bad.
hopefully omega protocol is better when it comes to these problems, i still love DSR but music was the worst part of it IMO.
Actually, this song is full circle at the end of this Ultimate. I don't remember where, I might have to look this up, Revenge Twofold was originally going to be Nidhogg's Trial theme, but they passed on using it there for not fitting the tone of the fight. They repurposed it as the dungeon theme and, given the lyrics to the orchestral version, have now put it as the song of a fusion between man and dragon.
Wait is materia not good? I'm only at the part where I have to race edgy Lancer to a test because he's a jerk
I only know materia through equipment screens lol
The description is referring to spiritbind. When gear reaches 100% spiritbind, you can extract a piece of free materia from it. It also changes from green to white on the inventory UI so everyone who watches these videos will know if I haven't extracted my free materia yet :"D
@@uvi- oh cool so materia farming is in! That's awesome cuz it wasn't in ff7r!
@@PrimevalDemon Materia is more akin to gems from WoW rather than Materia in FFVII. They provide stat boosts when inserted into gear and that is all, no spells based on equipped materia sadly.
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This and sands of amber are the two best OSTs. I’ll die on this hill.
I am noticing the stack markers? have arrows pointing outwards, what does that mean for executing the mechanic? I haven't got a chance to do this yet sadly.
Those are exaflares. In this fight, they radiate out in 3 directions, as indicated by the arrows. However, you can cheese the mechanic by simply stepping into the south exaflare, as that spot is always safe regardless of arrow orientation
@@uvi- So what I see happening here is not a form of stack marker but an exaflare cheese strat?
@@zeehero7280 Essentially, however if you don't move immediately you are 100% dead with this strat. It's high risk for low brain power.
Sloppy
This version is lame compared to the original…
a version of this theme is in nier replicant the beach boss awesome
What? Wich boss?
@@nicolasmolina9364 Louise the mermaid boss