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Going out on a limb here, but should be a law in Montana that exPat Californians cannot sit on HOA boards unless they have lived fulltime for 10 years in Montana.
As a Montana resident for 10 years and a former California resident I completely agree. I escaped CA and now find Montana is becoming less like where I moved to and move like where I escaped from. The HOAs are unbelievably expensive in Montana.
I was under a HOA years ago. The HOA president was a real dandy thought he was a neighborhood cop. It could have been a nice place to stay. The actual HOA was good for the covered items but it takes just one to ruin neighborhood! Thanks for sharing this information.
How would you manage a multi-unit building without an HOA? 1. Eliminate multiple ownership of a building? Only permitting company ownership of apartments building. 2. Have the government manage the building? 3. Tell me your solution. What do the H and O in HOA stand for? Owners must take responsibility of ownership. That simple.
There are two-level HOA condos in Myrtle Beach SC that are full ghetto for the entire property. I'm not even playing. You would swear it was a government housing project for low-income families, but the thing is, the HOA fees are like $1,000 a month. They do zero maintenance, nothing. The condos still sell.
Im currently having to seriously consider buying a new home right after I recently closed this spring because the HOA has been so bad. Never again will I consider HOA. Even if it keeps property values up, it's not worth the extra stress and money that comes with it, especially if I'm trying to find my forever home that I don't intend to sell.
So similar to experiences we have had here in PA. How about the need for major repairs and upgrades to the dam in our community! That is a huge and ongoing expense that we never expected when we moved here. Be careful!
Some years ago, we lived in a single family neighborhood in Summerville South Carolina, near Charleston. It had no HOA because a homeowner had sued, leading to the dissolution of the previous HOA. No idea what the issues were.
I had an HOA president knock on my door on Thanksgiving Day (in Florida) and question me about carpet we had on side the road for bulk pickup that was coming the next day.
Can you remember the % voting division ? Our problem is GPS maps send drivers down our no-through road , yet it's not a through road to where they think it's going . I leave the wheel-bin at the entrance , which makes most of them think and turn around . A few drive up even though it's obvious it's only leading to my tractor !
I live in an HOA in Colorado. We have issues with a resident who thinks he is an attorney. He is saying that because our covenants say no rentals, it may not mean all rentals. He is trying to interpret it to mean he can rent. I told him, “no means no”.
We live in a HOA now. But the only 2 rules are that the house must be 1500 sq ft including the garage and the out buildings must look like your house. We had to create the HOA because the 9 families who live on our private road own 1/2 of a private mountain here in north central Washington state. We don’t have to pay taxes on the mountain. All of our houses are custom built and the smallest one is 1600 sq ft not including the garage. We could care less if an out building looks like the house. We Don’t pay dues. We all chip in to plowing the 5-7 feet off our private road and when we had it chip sealed all of us paid for our share from property line to property line. We’re 5 miles from town and had to form the HOA to appease the state and county.
My daughter's HOA in Florida gave tickets to her husband for having magnetic signs on his work truck advertising his business. The tickets were for around $150. You are talking about a manufactured home community. Had to remove the signs.
My development in WA could not install a gate because the fire dept did not want to deal with it when they make a call. It seems a gate with remote operation wouldn't be a problem.. If the FD could also open it. But people drawn to HOA boards are often mini tyrants.
It seems the fire road gate is still standing and locked after 20 years, which suggests that, despite overstepping his authority, the power hungry stubborn old man ultimately prevailed.
In my opinion over controlling HOA's can drive down property values. I lived in a HOA property once. Since then I have always made sure to never look at another home that is part of an HOA.
Why is the gate still there? This is the reason why, when I was buying a home, I told the realtor to not waste her time showing me properties that are HOA.
Will, should have taken a photo and went to the fire dept. Show what ( insert HOA presidents name ) did. If you were lucky they would have fined him, and guarantee he would never pull that stunt again.
When it comes to having a private lake, it is good policy to befriend the neighbors, especially if the trout are as large as in the waters we create. The neighbors make better watch dogs than they do poachers ;)
Subjecting one’s self to a H O A is a senseless step in life. Why would anyone decide to give up any more freedoms that are already crushed by legitimate governments?
Naw, can't top that. Am familiar with the neighborhood cop tho. Say, why are they always the real old codgers who remind you of your dad when he was going thru his, "My way or the hiway," stage. For every ticket I got for parking greater than 10" from the curb (x2), I know he got a deflated tire. Bad blood. His wife was a super nice lady tho, just as neighborly and kind as all get out.
Couldn't you also have sicced the fire department on him ?? After all, it is a fire route and it seems to be an obvious violation of the fire code to put a gate there -
Not necessarily funny but I got dinged several times for having a basketball court in my front driveway. 🤦🏼 I suppose they have their purpose but I personally would rather be without. Ps: Funny story. I laughed when I imagined you taking the gate hinges apart and what you might have been thinking in your head while in the process 😭🤣
Will - My opinion is that both HOA Presidents and U.S. Presidents are drawn to the position because of power. Some Presidents abuse power and do what they want because they incorrectly and arrogantly think they're smarter than the deplorable masses. Other Presidents are motivated to serve primarily as a common-sense alternative to the abusive President and sincerely want to do good. Over the last 4 years, I've been subject to both a rogue HOA President, and Board, and an absolutely pathetic U.S. President. It's past time for the silent majority to get out and vote. If you're reading this, please vote. Thank you.
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Going out on a limb here, but should be a law in Montana that exPat Californians cannot sit on HOA boards unless they have lived fulltime for 10 years in Montana.
Not sure that would fly, but a good idea!
As a Montana resident for 10 years and a former California resident I completely agree. I escaped CA and now find Montana is becoming less like where I moved to and move like where I escaped from. The HOAs are unbelievably expensive in Montana.
I agree, there should be more laws. Idiot
I was under a HOA years ago. The HOA president was a real dandy thought he was a neighborhood cop. It could have been a nice place to stay. The actual HOA was good for the covered items but it takes just one to ruin neighborhood! Thanks for sharing this information.
Love your "keeping it real" videos & experiences of MT living!
Tell it like it is!
Hoa should be illegal
Possibly!
😵💫
Typically, individuals are not compelled to reside in a location governed by a HOA.
How would you manage a multi-unit building without an HOA?
1. Eliminate multiple ownership of a building? Only permitting company ownership of apartments building.
2. Have the government manage the building?
3. Tell me your solution.
What do the H and O in HOA stand for?
Owners must take responsibility of ownership. That simple.
Why? They willingly sign the contract when they buy. Legal.
Maybe people should hold them selves accountable for signing a contract.
florida HOA is pure HELL.once a week move grass free water,but not pool or hot tube.No club house.Say NO to HOA's...
HOA's can be bad!
Thanks for sharing this. Interesting stories. Cheers, Will!
Very grateful we don’t have one in our neighborhood.
Me too!
There are two-level HOA condos in Myrtle Beach SC that are full ghetto for the entire property. I'm not even playing. You would swear it was a government housing project for low-income families, but the thing is, the HOA fees are like $1,000 a month. They do zero maintenance, nothing. The condos still sell.
Im currently having to seriously consider buying a new home right after I recently closed this spring because the HOA has been so bad.
Never again will I consider HOA. Even if it keeps property values up, it's not worth the extra stress and money that comes with it, especially if I'm trying to find my forever home that I don't intend to sell.
Did an HOA just “disappear” a car they didn’t approve of at 2:52? 😂
(Kudos for the smooth edit)
There is a portal behind me
Good afternoon from Lone Grove Oklahoma my friend's!
Hello there!
Why would anyone want to live in an HOA community in Montana ? That's for city folks only.
Some of them aren't so bad, but I get your point!
Hinged man takes hinges off a gate in an unhinged community hahaha
Good one!
So did the HOA get rid of the gate in your story? Dont leave us hangin
Yes, sorry, we did win that battle!
Ohh, it has an HOA, and for that reason,
I'M OUT !!! 🤣
So similar to experiences we have had here in PA. How about the need for major repairs and upgrades to the dam in our community! That is a huge and ongoing expense that we never expected when we moved here. Be careful!
Some years ago, we lived in a single family neighborhood in Summerville South Carolina, near Charleston. It had no HOA because a homeowner had sued, leading to the dissolution of the previous HOA. No idea what the issues were.
I had an HOA president knock on my door on Thanksgiving Day (in Florida) and question me about carpet we had on side the road for bulk pickup that was coming the next day.
Trying to stay away if possible from HOA!! Thanks for the info!!
My HOA is in the process of banning all holiday decorations. They have nothing better to do.
Any updates with that cabin in West Glacier NP on the river? Did it get tore down yet?
Still sitting there waiting on the courts.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Can you remember the % voting division ? Our problem is GPS maps send drivers down our no-through road , yet it's not a through road to where they think it's going . I leave the wheel-bin at the entrance , which makes most of them think and turn around . A few drive up even though it's obvious it's only leading to my tractor !
I can't remember the exact number. I know that every set of covenants is a little different on what is required for voting.
I live in an HOA in Colorado. We have issues with a resident who thinks he is an attorney. He is saying that because our covenants say no rentals, it may not mean all rentals. He is trying to interpret it to mean he can rent. I told him, “no means no”.
Nice information ❤😊
Here in Arizona, we have an HOA to maintain the mountain culverts etc. but we’re a community and we resist the control freaks.
We live in a HOA now. But the only 2 rules are that the house must be 1500 sq ft including the garage and the out buildings must look like your house.
We had to create the HOA because the 9 families who live on our private road own 1/2 of a private mountain here in north central Washington state. We don’t have to pay taxes on the mountain.
All of our houses are custom built and the smallest one is 1600 sq ft not including the garage.
We could care less if an out building looks like the house.
We Don’t pay dues. We all chip in to plowing the 5-7 feet off our private road and when we had it chip sealed all of us paid for our share from property line to property line.
We’re 5 miles from town and had to form the HOA to appease the state and county.
I see Living in Montana, I like 'Living in Montana' (although I am not). Sigh, maybe, someday.
Good Luck!
My daughter's HOA in Florida gave tickets to her husband for having magnetic signs on his work truck advertising his business. The tickets were for around $150. You are talking about a manufactured home community. Had to remove the signs.
My development in WA could not install a gate because the fire dept did not want to deal with it when they make a call. It seems a gate with remote operation wouldn't be a problem.. If the FD could also open it. But people drawn to HOA boards are often mini tyrants.
My wife and I avoid anyplace with an HOA like it's the plague.
Love the story haha
Thanks!
It seems the fire road gate is still standing and locked after 20 years, which suggests that, despite overstepping his authority, the power hungry stubborn old man ultimately prevailed.
That was a different gate, he did not prevail!
@@LivinginMontana1 Glad to hear that.
In my opinion over controlling HOA's can drive down property values. I lived in a HOA property once. Since then I have always made sure to never look at another home that is part of an HOA.
The sad irony about a rogue HOA, is that if they break the law and they get sued, the HOA members pay their legal expenses.
Better hope that old HOA president doesn't see this. He will report you for your rogue behavior a couple decades ago!
I will always be looking over my shoulder!
Why is the gate still there? This is the reason why, when I was buying a home, I told the realtor to not waste her time showing me properties that are HOA.
Will, should have taken a photo and went to the fire dept.
Show what ( insert HOA presidents name ) did.
If you were lucky they would have fined him, and guarantee he would never pull that stunt again.
If you want to test a person’s character, put them on an HOA board.
When it comes to having a private lake, it is good policy to befriend the neighbors, especially if the trout are as large as in the waters we create. The neighbors make better watch dogs than they do poachers ;)
Subjecting one’s self to a H O A is a senseless step in life. Why would anyone decide to give up any more freedoms that are already crushed by legitimate governments?
Did the HOA president win this one?? Hope not. Were there any fires that this gate inhibited immediate access to?
Sorry I didn't let everyone know the ending! He did not win. The gate was never closed again after that meeting.
I thought you made some good points in your previous HOA video. However, I still wouldn't live in one.
Naw, can't top that. Am familiar with the neighborhood cop tho. Say, why are they always the real old codgers who remind you of your dad when he was going thru his, "My way or the hiway," stage. For every ticket I got for parking greater than 10" from the curb (x2), I know he got a deflated tire. Bad blood. His wife was a super nice lady tho, just as neighborly and kind as all get out.
Couldn't you also have sicced the fire department on him ?? After all, it is a fire route and it seems to be an obvious violation of the fire code to put a gate there -
What's wrong with my junkyard and bright purple house? At least i don't vandalise other peoples gates.
Love how you are the voice of logic among these idiots in the HOA. Looking forward to contacting you about properties
HOA positions attract an odd bunch!
Will Unhinged 🙃
hilarious!!
NO, HOA's can NOT be good, at least in my opinion. I'm not willing to let someone else tell me what I can or can't do with MY property!
Montana?HOA? LMAO.
Ill take the purple house, abd i hate that color
Not necessarily funny but I got dinged several times for having a basketball court in my front driveway. 🤦🏼
I suppose they have their purpose but I personally would rather be without.
Ps: Funny story. I laughed when I imagined you taking the gate hinges apart and what you might have been thinking in your head while in the process 😭🤣
They can be a pain in the butt!
Let California Democrats tell you what you can do and not do...that your future!!😮 They move in, locals move out...😮
So you leave us hanging.....what happened to that tyrant??? Tell me you all voted him out/sued the HOA?!
Sorry I didn't let everyone know the ending! He did not win. The gate was never closed again after that meeting.
What a demon haha good lord in Heaven bless him. "A demon did it so i did too"
Will - My opinion is that both HOA Presidents and U.S. Presidents are drawn to the position because of power. Some Presidents abuse power and do what they want because they incorrectly and arrogantly think they're smarter than the deplorable masses. Other Presidents are motivated to serve primarily as a common-sense alternative to the abusive President and sincerely want to do good. Over the last 4 years, I've been subject to both a rogue HOA President, and Board, and an absolutely pathetic U.S. President. It's past time for the silent majority to get out and vote. If you're reading this, please vote. Thank you.