Tom I've been looking at this 120 volt/240 volt portable power station for a couple months now. I'm glad you did a review on it. I have the chargepoint home flex charger that I would plan on charging it with in my garage. well as you shown it doesn't work on the chargepoint home flex. they need to fix this problem before I buy it. Thanks for the review big time you just saved me a lot of grief.
Not 240v. The large outlet is a NEMA TT-30R. It’s labeled 125v and the website states it’s not 240v also. I know it’s large like a 240 V outlet but it is a high power 120 V outlet at 30 A.
my guess would be is that its because both EVSE/wall chargers and the ecoflow unit both have GFCI, which causes problems like being described. If thats the case there's no fixing, as most EV EVSE/wall chargers at 240v require GFCI for housing code and GFCI is built in to the chargers. I'd guesstimate that the ecoflow unit comes standard with GFCI as well.
So far these units have been built for the market over sea and the RV markets in their rush to bigger and more powerful units unless you buy 2 unit's there is still non built for the home owner and yet all they need to do is add a second inverter that's tied to the first for 220 volt the technology is there after all if they can tie 2 units together for 220 110 volts than it's simpler to do it all in one unit we dont need 2 sets of USB ports or 2 sets of regulated 12 volt outlets dont need 2 sets of chargers ac dc or solar as for batteries we can buy additional battery storage unit's in fact all we need for household solar power is a modular unit that starts with the batteries charge controllers and the inverter it could have a port to add a regulated 12 volt circuitry and another one for adding USB after all if using it for either household solar or emergency power supply it's not practical to use it in the kitchen might be more practical in the garage or garden shed and you probably won't want to leave your phone in either place or set up your other devices and use them there so the USB charger or 12 volt regulated circuitry is probably not going to be useful so the money for these is better used to buy an extra battery also a 110 220 volts unit with an extra battery unit would probably charge an EV faster on 220 and if one battery gives an additional 12 miles of range since the additional battery is usually a bigger capacity since it just a battery should give you double if not triple the range the question than becomes would it be able to be done the same as an propane vehicle you can put your cheater tank on wait a half hour or more for the fuel to tranfer then unhook and go or like I did with mine one was a van I put a hole in the side close to the filling port I'd put my hose on through the hole turn on the valve on the cheater hop in the driver's seat and drive it would tranfer fuel as I drove and it would empty out my30 pound cheater heater for my 2nd one an old handy bus I tied the tank close to the window and opened it up dropped the hose out the window and attach it to my tank filler so the question then becomes can you hook up the ecoflow be hooked up to charge the EV while you drive to the nearest charging station in which case the honking long hook up handle would have to be modified to make them keep closer to the car just thinking I'm not one to wait for propane to tranfer much less 2 hrs for power to tranfer so check it out put the unit in the trunk or back of the car run the cord out the window and plug in the Tesla and see if it'll drive and at what speed or do you have to wait a while before you drive and if Tesla is to smart to do it are there other EV that can
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
Just FYI, a single Delta Pro can only produce 120v using the 30A NEMA TT-30R outlet. To generate 240v, you need to use two Delta Pros and their double voltage hub.
I think we're missing the main point here - you could connect a couple solar panels to this unit and use it to top your car back up in the event of a power outage. This would enable you to run errands/buy groceries which may only use a couple percent depending on where you live - and then use this to replenish. 1000-2000w worth of panels and 6 hrs of sun plus the full 3 kw battery could make a more of a significant impact.
Do the math @thatton, you will need to go from 100 to 0 at least 33 times to come close to filling a Model 3. 100 model 3 fills or 3300 cycles will reduce the battery to 80% of its capacity and typically much lower since you may be using fast charging to begin with. So almost rendering the Ecoflow delta pro useless for EV charging ( Weight to power ratio)
Let’s say you live 10 minutes from a grocery store…. All you would need is perhaps 3-4% battery life from a Model 3 to go pick up needed supplies/medicine in the event of an extended power outage. In such extenuating circumstances- this could be a tiny insurance policy for local errands.
I think they've fixed the grounding issue, I charge my bz with it every sunny day. I have both spare batteries, and get 8-10% with 1200 solar panels. I'm still working on the perfect timing of it. I've tried a few chargers in town and none would charge the EF, but haven't tried a charge point.
I was stuck for 3 hrs in a forest fire basically at a stand still on the freeway. You can't plan for everything. Luckily I was in a gas car with a full tank but we had no a/c and it was over 100 degrees with a 5 yr old in the back not a fun time to not be able to roll the windows down😢. I'm thinking of going electric now. I think it is a good idea to at least have something to give you some extra miles on hand if need be. Also don't camp in fire territory and have a car with no a/c sometimes you just gotta live and learn I definitely did💯
I believe another youtuber, Will Prowes, messed up the DC charging module inside his eco flow by adding the grounding plug and charging his Tesla. In his video he says eco flow does not recommend charging an EV since you have to add the grounding plug. His inverter still worked but the issue with bonding fried his DC charging ability so he can not charge it from solar.
Thank you for always having integrity and honesty with your viewers. I was excited to see this as a potential for someone who might purchase this as a alternative power source in the need of a backup for their home. However, having so many issues and additional plugs that would need to be purchased, I don't know if this would be the correct solution for someone who owns an EV. I would probably recommend waiting for a V2G wall unit or a whole house battery by Tesla.
Thanks for the very informative review. This battery back-up unit is more suited to camping than EV emergency charging. Due to battery weight, emergency charging a depleted battery is best done from another EV. We need more EVs with good V2L capability. Good V2L means 240V, not paltry 120. Sadly, Tesla won’t have V2L until CT introduction which keeps getting delayed. New Ford Lightning may offer a great solution.
Hey Tom, great review! So, I'm a Locksmith in Wyoming. I have one of these in my work van, it's hardwired to the charging system - which is a measly 8 amps. But, that's the only bad. I have my machines, and a large laser printer. It sucks up whatever I throw at it, and it's able to provide more. I'm going to add a small refrigerator when I can make space for it.
I noticed when you attempted to charge the Eco Flow from the Juice Box and the second wall charger you had the ground fault adapter installed. When you charged the Eco Flow using the third wall charger the ground fault adapter was removed and charging started.
I think with the price tag, I’d rather just plug in at a public charger earlier and plan accordingly. I was considering getting a solar setup but the cost per kWh over its possible useful life. Hopefully the technology becomes more mainstream and someday we can setup solar charging for a reasonable price.
Tom, the best of the best in BEV reviews and chargers and EVSE!!! Tom cuts through the BS and gives us the real beef. However, I think most will pass on a 3.7 kWh $3,600 heavy jump box and power bank. There’s alternatives .
Thanks Tom for the review. I purchased the EcoFlow Delta Pro, 400 W foldable solar panels and the EV charging adapter. In addition to the bonding plug you will need to NEMA 14-50 (or other plug) for the Tesla portable charger to charge your Tesla using the 30 amp outlet. I actually have charged my Tesla MY using the NEMA 14-50 plug with the adapter at 24 amps. Charging at a higher rate causes the EcoFlow DP to heat up a bit. And yes, you can only get 10-12 miles/hour of 3+ kWh of charge. I’m retired and don’t drive many miles a day so it’s has been a good way to keep my SOC close to 80%.
Great review Tom - EV charging, 2 hours, 12 miles. Can the Ecoflow charge an EV while it's getting charged from solar? If it can and someone only averages 35 miles a day, this off grid solution might be all they need. What do you think?
I have an Ecoflow looking at using two of them to charge an e transit at 240v. It can charge while it’s getting charged from the sun. Each unit can have up to 1600 watts of solar I believe so two would be 3200w but I think closer to 8kw solar input would be better for charging ev depending on model and mileage requirements. The ultra is coming out this week and can have more solar but think it’s going to cost at least around 4 grand plus cost of panels. I like the idea of just using dc solar to a dc car charger and save on the cost and components of the non vehicle battery and inverter but if can’t find a setup like that hope can power off grid with either two pro or one ultra from Ecoflow and as much panels as can handle. So far very pleased with the Ecoflow pro from Costco. Definitely can charge an ev but the mileage would vary on model, solar input capacity etc
You wouldn’t call a gas can a gas generator, would you? I’ve seen them called (ESS, energy storage solution by utilities and solar companies). Or a battery backup that of course is charged.
One thing that is confusing, and I think it got Tom as well. A simple 240V adapter plug will not make this unit supply 240V and charge your EVSE at a level 2 rate. The big socket on the unit is a 30A 120V outlet. For 240V, you need 2 of these monster batteries AND a special 240V cable (named Double Voltage hub) that takes the two 120V units and provides 240V L14-30 twist lock socket. Yikes! Really just a costly level 1 solution, and even more costly for level 2.
This wasn't made at aim towards as ev gas can haha. It's for home backup, electric, rv camping, offgrid haha. Yes/no it may work in a pinch. The ev plug on this is for you to be able to go to a ev station to charge it as one option of charging.
Hi Bill, If someone gets the 2 * EF Pros and the 240v hub, what connector / adapter can be used to do level 2 charging ? ( I heard about bonded cable (NEMA 14-50) but there is nothing on-line)
@@golan555 For most EVSE's, you would need something that bonds the Neutral and Ground at the EcoFlow. It doesn't do that, and that is what some EVSE's need to see in order to not indicate a fault. Some may not need this though - you'd have to test with your particular EVSE (the Tesla ones do need this). This is most easily accomplished with plugging something into either of the 120V outlets on the 240V adapter. Search for 'generator bonding plug'. Range from $5 - $15, or you can make your own with a plug (connect neutral and ground with a wire).
Tom, some of the disadvantages of the Ecoflow can be lessened with a change in equipment type/brand. The recent Pecron E3000 is only 55 pounds, and currently only $1899, no sales tax collected, with a dolly and RV "dog-bone" included, at 3108 watt-hours. (And in tests by the RUclipsr Professor Hobo, it appears under-rated, as it delivers 95% of the rated energy capacity as A.C. power.) The reason it is so much lighter is that it is made with high-grade EV batteries, presumably NMC, rather than an iron-based (LFP) chemistry (which reduces lifetime total charge cycles, but reduces the weight dramatically.) While this unit will not charge an EV quite as quickly in an emergency situation, and is not compatible with being recharged at an EV charger, having it onboard as an "electronic spare-can-of-gas" is quite a bit more practical in terms of price and weight... (Twelve miles of added range for our Model Y may not seem like much, until you potentially have to walk it...)
That was an excellent non biased review in my opinion! The facts were presented, do what you will with the facts! Thanks for bringing this technology to our attention Tom! I would like to know how two of these would compare to a generac for home back up power.
I have the Delta Pro and am using it to power my Sprinter. Unfortunately, I discovered after I purchased the Xtreme EV adapter, that it comes with NO cable to connect to an EV charging station. My local dealership said "well, just use the cable that comes with your vehicle". (The Netherlands leads the world in EV vehicle use.) It took some explaining to make them understand that I am using the EcoFlow to power the electricity in the camper van - and it is not an EV vehicle. NOWHERE on the Ecoflow site does it say anything about the need to purchase an additional cable on top of the EV adapter. Not even sure which one I need. Does Ecoflow assume everyone using the Delta Pro is already using an EV vehicle? That doesn't seem to fit their use case. A reasonable cable to use with the Delta Pro EV adapter and most charging stations would be a welcome addition - on a marketing level, some warning of this would be nice.
Good review Tom, however you missed one important aspect. The Delta Pro is not sold with 240 V outlets in the US. That large outlet is a NEMA TT-30 120 V. The unit is sold with 240 V outlets only in international markets.
It’s important to note that as good as Eco Flow products are the quality comes at a steep price. 3,600 for 1 Delta Pro let alone the solar, second unit for home back up and smart panel that requires an electrician to install. So maybe 12k all in.
I wonder if the reason the Enel X and Chargepoint EVSE didn't work is because they are 40amp? Maybe the Delta Pro can't negotiate down to 32Amp properly (hopefully fixed in a software update.)
I agree I hope they can fix it in software but it may be a hardware issue. There is no negotiation down to an amperage in J1772. It’s simply that the charger notifies the vehicle how much possible power it can pull and the vehicle takes up to that amount. There is actually no restriction that the vehicle obey this however generally a circuit breaker would blow if you exceeded it.
I know you made a good attempt to make this review as unbiased as possible, but I just wish it was more common for manufacturers one these "reviews" to give you credit to buy a unit on your own terms, than send you a specific unit that may or not have been given "a little extra QC".
I have a smaller, lighter, and cheaper unit from another brand that will work to put a few miles into my car, but I am not interested in the miles the battery can put into my car. Rather what I like is when paired with some solar panels these solar generators can power your campsite and put a few miles into your car each day. If you aren't just leaving your car at the campsite all day, it is always going to be better to plug it in at some public charger when you are out and about. My attraction to these is that is a battery and inverter and everything packaged up in one unit, so I can put it in my travel trailer, or in the house in case of power outage. I have a smaller one for tent camping and recharging my ebikes, although the larger one is better for lots of ebike charging. If I am bike camping, the 7 pound unit makes more sense than the 60 pound unit.
I would buy it for house + Home EV charger backup as battery + solar you can take with you if you move or use with RV then reconnect. Use cases of putting it in the car seem very limited with the growing infrastructure plus my EVSE w/ extension cord giving L1 almost everywhere.
I would agree with that Randy. The bulk charging would be lower down, putting the top end charge in is the slowest and probably less efficient overall, it's probably why most manufacturers state the fast charge times to 80%.
Spark charge doesn't sell to individuals I think... plus as a apartment renter I like the dual function as a home battery. 2 things I wanted to see. 240V charging and daisy chaining 240V units to provide a solution to apartment renters.
Thanks for making this video - living in a earthquake area my thought was if I buy a EV and for whatever reason we lose power for a few days or maybe rolling blackouts due to heat waves.. this would be a good help for electric blankets.. charging devices...cooking food... AND give you a good 10 miles on your car (or without heat in the house you could sleep in your car) if you needed to run to the grocery store nearby - and with a solar panel you could just trickle charge the thing- but yeah that price point... ugh that's some $$$ I would never put it in the trunk but... for the house and a EV not a bad idea..... anyway thank you for the review!
Very pleased with the Ecoflow pro for powering a cabin. At Costco here $2349. The solar input and needing two might make the ecoflow ultra better suited for ev charging. Want to have a ev charger that takes dc from panels straight to the ev without the extra inverter and battery.
I love your reviews. This might be something one would be as a house back-up/camping power source, but pure physics dictate it's not practical for just charging evs.
It was a good video but it would really help if we knew why the charge units won’t charge the ECO system. This failure casts a doubt on any charger being used for the system.
Thanks for tackling this one Tom. I have installed a lot of these types of batteries as home backup out in California (wildfire power shut downs). Haven't tried to charge my Bolt with mine yet though.
I must say... One of the better reviewers. The benefit disclosure was a great move too. This is always on the back of my mind when watching product reviews. Well done!
Great info on portable charging. I have a question relative to existing networks that Tesla currently cannot access. Love your channel. You are one of a small number of EV channels I watch regularly. Lots of great info and not afraid to express your opinion. How about some comments about the Tesla CCS1 adaptor? I live in Canada and all other EV's can travel to more parts of Canada than Tesla. Tesla Supercharger network is great but locations almost exclusively on the main routes. I'm starting to recommend competitive EV's to my friends who want to travel away from our main highways - even though I love my Tesla in every other way. I'm sure this must be a growing problem in the USA too.
My ChargePoint J1772 connector gets stuck in the adapter. I have several other EVSEs, no issue. The TT-30 is a 30 Amp / 120 Volt receptacle, so not level 2, but more amps than the pigtail 12 Amp pigtail you used. If you want to get to 240 Volts, you need to link two EcoFlow units together with a special adapter that puts each side properly out of phase.
I like that you do good honest reviews. Would also have been good to say how many miles it would add to a bigger less efficient EV like a Lightning, for the less math-inclined
It would add maybe. 10 miles to my Lightning 12 if I was driving 40mph. Not really practical for me as an mobile charger to put in the bed of the truck on long trips - I d need 10 of them ro make it worth while, maybe paired with a generator - I wonder why I wouldn't just get an inverter generator then.
Thanks Tom. Can you plug your car in and at the same time the solar panel? That would be handy if you are going to park for the day anyway and have the ability to get a bit more power into the car.
This is what I wanna see. If a solar panel of about 350/400 on a roof rack of a car and this in the trunk. Parked & trickle charging your car while your on your work shift.
I do really love me EF Delta pro, so much so, that I purchased the add on battery this year. So I have 7.2kW total. Would I use it as an emergency charger for my Lightning? God no. I'd get maybe 14 miles? But...I keep this in my travel trailer and use it to power everything in the trailer for a week or more. It's really just an amazing solution. But thank god I don't have to carry it around.
You need to check your notes Tom. One EcoFlow will only output 120V. That 30A (TT-30) outlet is a standard 120v RV hookup. You need two and a combiner accessorie to do 240V. That addapter you mentiond only operates at 125V (says so right in the screen grab you used.) Also, please check for compatibility with the WallBox Pulsar Plus (and other EVSEs you have) What is the max charge rate on the J-1772 input to the EcoFlow.
It’s actually labeled 125V, not 120.. Definitely not 240 like you said. Although I don’t know how you get 125 from any service panel. Maybe 125 is some old standard name.
My thoughts as well. However - Ben Sullins used the 30amp / 120v with his Tesla 14-50 charger and pulled the full 30 amps (although only 120v). ruclips.net/video/dT7cANoCER0/видео.html. It would be great if they had 240v output from just one unit, but at only 3.6kW, I understand the compromise.
Checking the product specifications, greater than 32 amp at 220/240 is too much. You probably could set your other smart chargers to lower output amps and be fine.
@@sciencedadusa4706 An EVSE is not a charger. The vehicle (or EcoFlow in this case) will only consume what it wants and is capable of - up to the max advertised of the EVSE.
Doesn't charging slow down over 80%? I wonder if the unit would have charged faster and added more miles if you had started with a charge level of 30% or less, which is more realistically when someone would resort to a portable charger?
A Tesla (or just about any EV out there) charges much, much faster than the 1400 watts that a Tesla mobile connector can put out when connected to 120V. The Model 3 doesn’t slow down to that point until about 98-99%. The high-ish state of charge definitely did not make any difference to the charging speed in this case.
@@ouch1011 sorry, I don't believe that. I think this would have charged much better at 0 to 10%. This power unit is meant to be a replacement for a gas can. No one needs this at 80% they need it at 0 to 10%. At 80% it probably needs more power to overcome the capacity issues. I feel this wasn't a fair test base on this because it wasn't a real-life use of this unit. Not that this is a good solution to running out of electricity, because the weight of this thing would shorten your range anyway.
@@grandetaco4416 totally agree, this 80% charging up is not a realistic test, should be simulating a real situation when you had to resort to a portal charger, which means your EV got no charge left.
Hey Tom. I live your videos and reviews! I searched your channel and couldn't find anything with the Harley Davidson LiveWire. I just got one and it's amazing. I've seen videos that just give a timer for DC fast charging for it, but I was looking for one of your graphs that would show the charge rate at different SOC. Do you have plans do a LiveWire charging video? Also I'm assuming with an adapter I can use my Tesla Wall Connector to charge the LiveWire?
I’m quite confident that the Harley Davidson Livewire will work with the Tesla Wall Connector when using a TeslaTap adapter, although I have read that for North American models, 240 Volt charging the Livewire is not really faster than 120 Volt charging.
Interesting! I have to check your channel to see if all portable EV charging stations or that heavy. I would think if you're charging station weighs that much, doesn't the extra weight drain the battery faster while you drive anyway?
I have a delta pro, I’ve considered getting a Tesla. I guess In some strange unique emergency setting being able to charge a completely dead EV makes some sense… but planning ahead for a few minutes makes Considerably more sense as the delta pro takes a long time to add a few miles… likely those miles wouldn’t even need to be replenished if the delta pro wasn’t in the ev to begin with at its 100lbs
Tom, after making a J1772 tester and testing it a various charging stations I know how tricky it is to get the protocol correct. My tester now works I believe flawlessly but I can imagine this company has not done a sufficient job of engineering testing.
It's pretty easy to try and be the vehicle and get any EVSE to supply power - just a diode and two resistors on the pilot line per the J1772 standard. I imagine they didn't get that wrong. Probably the issue is the GFCI tripping in the EVSE and/or DeltaPro. Same reason you should not install an EVSE on a GFCI circuit since they will false trip.
Hello Tom, First, I think you do a great job with your videos and your appearances with Alex. My R1S delivery window is the end of this year. I'm thinking about a Rivian wall charger. However, my garage is a couple hundred feet from my condo and there is no WiFi at the garage. 1. Is there anyway I can get OTA updates for the charger? 2. Is the Rivian the best charger for the R1S? Thank you for your assistance, Tom
Would it be out of bounds to bring that thing or your powerwall to your job and plug it into the wall to charge up? Much like you plug your cell phone in? Or plugging your EV in at work?
How long does it take to charge from an ev charger? Thx I dont see this as very useful to charge cars. I see it as useful because hopefully you can charge it more quickly than a normal battery bank.
An interesting way to top up a BEV, but you are going from AC to DC and then from DC to AC and back to DC! A lot of energy loss going on there. I do a lot of long distance travel in Northern Ontario so I need a vehicle with lots of range. My truck can travel over 2000 kms with both tanks full of Diesel and if need be I can bring extra jerrycans. I can supply my own power when stopped via 3 lithium batteries and a 3000 watt pure sine inverter built into the truck, theses can be recharged via twin alternator’s whilst driving. It will be a long time before an BEV will be able to do what I currently do.
There are really two different subjects here. One is the merits of this particular product, and Tom did well in covering those. The other topic is what is a purpose for this product that makes sense. I can't see any sense in carrying this around as some kind of electric jerry jug equivalent. I can't see that as anything but absurd. OTOH if you are going on some kind of camping trip and know you will need auxiliary power. If you expect a long stay and bring along some oslar panels, so omuch the better. OTO-OH if you have something like a CyberTruck that is equipped for that purpose from the start, then this device becomes redundant.
Ty for the content. Imho if the mobile charger needs a 3rd party plug for ev use, I'll wait for the next company to design a system that will not need to be tricked. Maybe at least provide the dummy ground plug if promoting your product as ev charger.
18:00 what if you hook multiple of them up together and attach the solar panels then they would constantly charge up and then you’d have more kWh to charge any ev. You could mount it on a trailer or something and pull it and never run out of charge ever
He answered most of my questions. But the one I wanted to know after that was can you charge it from a Tesla charging station. He does tell you how to do it though. But doesn't confirm that it works.
Do you think if you wanted an EV but live in an apt this would be a good option to charge power bank during day and then your car at night on a daily basis?
There is some incorrect information so let me help you. 1. You need to use the 30amp port for 3600w output 2. This only outputs 120v not 240v 3. You can fully deplete the unit in 1hr or less for that same amount of range with the adaptor which is common and can be purchased locally otherwise you're limited to 20amps. 4. You don't need a specific kind of adaptor just the grounding plug and the appropriate connection
would this be good roadside assistance? to charge up a dead EV on the side of the road to at least get to a charging station? like some of them will carry a few gallons of gas to a stranded car that ran out.
I'm looking to get a portable EV charger as my '13 Nissan Leaf due to yearly loss now needs to add approx. 10mi more capacity to allow me a round trip commute to work. And thus looking for something to charge my car while it sits in the parking lot. Thus worth it to spend a
Be careful with ecoflow when it comes to monitoring your system. You cant just connected to Bluetooth out of the box, you have to create an account online which they may be tracking your use.
Thanks for review. Do you know of any other portable power bank that charges from CCS or J1772 or NACS level 2 or 3, or even that recharges quickly? Thank you.
Tom I've been looking at this 120 volt/240 volt portable power station for a couple months now. I'm glad you did a review on it. I have the chargepoint home flex charger that I would plan on charging it with in my garage. well as you shown it doesn't work on the chargepoint home flex. they need to fix this problem before I buy it. Thanks for the review big time you just saved me a lot of grief.
Not 240v. The large outlet is a NEMA TT-30R. It’s labeled 125v and the website states it’s not 240v also.
I know it’s large like a 240 V outlet but it is a high power 120 V outlet at 30 A.
I think you can try tell them that in their customer service. They respond fast.
my guess would be is that its because both EVSE/wall chargers and the ecoflow unit both have GFCI, which causes problems like being described. If thats the case there's no fixing, as most EV EVSE/wall chargers at 240v require GFCI for housing code and GFCI is built in to the chargers. I'd guesstimate that the ecoflow unit comes standard with GFCI as well.
So far these units have been built for the market over sea and the RV markets in their rush to bigger and more powerful units unless you buy 2 unit's there is still non built for the home owner and yet all they need to do is add a second inverter that's tied to the first for 220 volt the technology is there after all if they can tie 2 units together for 220 110 volts than it's simpler to do it all in one unit we dont need 2 sets of USB ports or 2 sets of regulated 12 volt outlets dont need 2 sets of chargers ac dc or solar as for batteries we can buy additional battery storage unit's in fact all we need for household solar power is a modular unit that starts with the batteries charge controllers and the inverter it could have a port to add a regulated 12 volt circuitry and another one for adding USB after all if using it for either household solar or emergency power supply it's not practical to use it in the kitchen might be more practical in the garage or garden shed and you probably won't want to leave your phone in either place or set up your other devices and use them there so the USB charger or 12 volt regulated circuitry is probably not going to be useful so the money for these is better used to buy an extra battery also a 110 220 volts unit with an extra battery unit would probably charge an EV faster on 220 and if one battery gives an additional 12 miles of range since the additional battery is usually a bigger capacity since it just a battery should give you double if not triple the range the question than becomes would it be able to be done the same as an propane vehicle you can put your cheater tank on wait a half hour or more for the fuel to tranfer then unhook and go or like I did with mine one was a van I put a hole in the side close to the filling port I'd put my hose on through the hole turn on the valve on the cheater hop in the driver's seat and drive it would tranfer fuel as I drove and it would empty out my30 pound cheater heater for my 2nd one an old handy bus I tied the tank close to the window and opened it up dropped the hose out the window and attach it to my tank filler so the question then becomes can you hook up the ecoflow be hooked up to charge the EV while you drive to the nearest charging station in which case the honking long hook up handle would have to be modified to make them keep closer to the car just thinking I'm not one to wait for propane to tranfer much less 2 hrs for power to tranfer so check it out put the unit in the trunk or back of the car run the cord out the window and plug in the Tesla and see if it'll drive and at what speed or do you have to wait a while before you drive and if Tesla is to smart to do it are there other EV that can
@@jasminekim3111 Seems like the Delta Pro is the best solar generator that money can buy.
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
Just FYI, a single Delta Pro can only produce 120v using the 30A NEMA TT-30R outlet. To generate 240v, you need to use two Delta Pros and their double voltage hub.
I think we're missing the main point here - you could connect a couple solar panels to this unit and use it to top your car back up in the event of a power outage. This would enable you to run errands/buy groceries which may only use a couple percent depending on where you live - and then use this to replenish. 1000-2000w worth of panels and 6 hrs of sun plus the full 3 kw battery could make a more of a significant impact.
Do the math @thatton, you will need to go from 100 to 0 at least 33 times to come close to filling a Model 3. 100 model 3 fills or 3300 cycles will reduce the battery to 80% of its capacity and typically much lower since you may be using fast charging to begin with. So almost rendering the Ecoflow delta pro useless for EV charging ( Weight to power ratio)
Let’s say you live 10 minutes from a grocery store…. All you would need is perhaps 3-4% battery life from a Model 3 to go pick up needed supplies/medicine in the event of an extended power outage. In such extenuating circumstances- this could be a tiny insurance policy for local errands.
Funnily enough, I was just thinking how I felt your channel was upfront and trustworthy. Kudos
This Delta Pro power station is so powerful. I am loving it.
I think they've fixed the grounding issue, I charge my bz with it every sunny day. I have both spare batteries, and get 8-10% with 1200 solar panels. I'm still working on the perfect timing of it. I've tried a few chargers in town and none would charge the EF, but haven't tried a charge point.
Cool product, and it’s been reviewed by most of your RUclips friends, but glad to see YOUR take!
In all honesty, that Delta Pro is the best solar generator I have ever come across.
I was stuck for 3 hrs in a forest fire basically at a stand still on the freeway. You can't plan for everything. Luckily I was in a gas car with a full tank but we had no a/c and it was over 100 degrees with a 5 yr old in the back not a fun time to not be able to roll the windows down😢. I'm thinking of going electric now. I think it is a good idea to at least have something to give you some extra miles on hand if need be. Also don't camp in fire territory and have a car with no a/c sometimes you just gotta live and learn I definitely did💯
I believe another youtuber, Will Prowes, messed up the DC charging module inside his eco flow by adding the grounding plug and charging his Tesla. In his video he says eco flow does not recommend charging an EV since you have to add the grounding plug. His inverter still worked but the issue with bonding fried his DC charging ability so he can not charge it from solar.
That is truly one impressive solar generator.
Thank you for always having integrity and honesty with your viewers. I was excited to see this as a potential for someone who might purchase this as a alternative power source in the need of a backup for their home. However, having so many issues and additional plugs that would need to be purchased, I don't know if this would be the correct solution for someone who owns an EV. I would probably recommend waiting for a V2G wall unit or a whole house battery by Tesla.
Thanks for the very informative review. This battery back-up unit is more suited to camping than EV emergency charging. Due to battery weight, emergency charging a depleted battery is best done from another EV. We need more EVs with good V2L capability. Good V2L means 240V, not paltry 120. Sadly, Tesla won’t have V2L until CT introduction which keeps getting delayed. New Ford Lightning may offer a great solution.
Hey Tom, great review! So, I'm a Locksmith in Wyoming. I have one of these in my work van, it's hardwired to the charging system - which is a measly 8 amps. But, that's the only bad. I have my machines, and a large laser printer. It sucks up whatever I throw at it, and it's able to provide more. I'm going to add a small refrigerator when I can make space for it.
Awesome ! can you please tell me how to hardwire in my work sprinter van to the charging system? Thank you!
I noticed when you attempted to charge the Eco Flow from the Juice Box and the second wall charger you had the ground fault adapter installed. When you charged the Eco Flow using the third wall charger the ground fault adapter was removed and charging started.
I think with the price tag, I’d rather just plug in at a public charger earlier and plan accordingly. I was considering getting a solar setup but the cost per kWh over its possible useful life. Hopefully the technology becomes more mainstream and someday we can setup solar charging for a reasonable price.
Tom, the best of the best in BEV reviews and chargers and EVSE!!! Tom cuts through the BS and gives us the real beef.
However, I think most will pass on a 3.7 kWh $3,600 heavy jump box and power bank. There’s alternatives .
Thanks Tom for the review. I purchased the EcoFlow Delta Pro, 400 W foldable solar panels and the EV charging adapter. In addition to the bonding plug you will need to NEMA 14-50 (or other plug) for the Tesla portable charger to charge your Tesla using the 30 amp outlet. I actually have charged my Tesla MY using the NEMA 14-50 plug with the adapter at 24 amps. Charging at a higher rate causes the EcoFlow DP to heat up a bit. And yes, you can only get 10-12 miles/hour of 3+ kWh of charge. I’m retired and don’t drive many miles a day so it’s has been a good way to keep my SOC close to 80%.
Great review Tom - EV charging, 2 hours, 12 miles. Can the Ecoflow charge an EV while it's getting charged from solar? If it can and someone only averages 35 miles a day, this off grid solution might be all they need. What do you think?
I have an Ecoflow looking at using two of them to charge an e transit at 240v. It can charge while it’s getting charged from the sun. Each unit can have up to 1600 watts of solar I believe so two would be 3200w but I think closer to 8kw solar input would be better for charging ev depending on model and mileage requirements. The ultra is coming out this week and can have more solar but think it’s going to cost at least around 4 grand plus cost of panels. I like the idea of just using dc solar to a dc car charger and save on the cost and components of the non vehicle battery and inverter but if can’t find a setup like that hope can power off grid with either two pro or one ultra from Ecoflow and as much panels as can handle. So far very pleased with the Ecoflow pro from Costco. Definitely can charge an ev but the mileage would vary on model, solar input capacity etc
This solar generator is really awesome. It has lots of applications and uses.
You wouldn’t call a gas can a gas generator, would you? I’ve seen them called (ESS, energy storage solution by utilities and solar companies). Or a battery backup that of course is charged.
Sound good got a van with a 75kwh battery which seems to run for ever between charges.but this is great idea to work with solar panels on van roof
One thing that is confusing, and I think it got Tom as well. A simple 240V adapter plug will not make this unit supply 240V and charge your EVSE at a level 2 rate. The big socket on the unit is a 30A 120V outlet. For 240V, you need 2 of these monster batteries AND a special 240V cable (named Double Voltage hub) that takes the two 120V units and provides 240V L14-30 twist lock socket. Yikes! Really just a costly level 1 solution, and even more costly for level 2.
Yes, you are correct. I was mistaken. You need to pair this with a second battery to deliver 240 volts.
This wasn't made at aim towards as ev gas can haha. It's for home backup, electric, rv camping, offgrid haha. Yes/no it may work in a pinch. The ev plug on this is for you to be able to go to a ev station to charge it as one option of charging.
Hi Bill, If someone gets the 2 * EF Pros and the 240v hub, what connector / adapter can be used to do level 2 charging ? ( I heard about bonded cable (NEMA 14-50) but there is nothing on-line)
@@golan555 For most EVSE's, you would need something that bonds the Neutral and Ground at the EcoFlow. It doesn't do that, and that is what some EVSE's need to see in order to not indicate a fault. Some may not need this though - you'd have to test with your particular EVSE (the Tesla ones do need this). This is most easily accomplished with plugging something into either of the 120V outlets on the 240V adapter. Search for 'generator bonding plug'. Range from $5 - $15, or you can make your own with a plug (connect neutral and ground with a wire).
Tom, some of the disadvantages of the Ecoflow can be lessened with a change in equipment type/brand. The recent Pecron E3000 is only 55 pounds, and currently only $1899, no sales tax collected, with a dolly and RV "dog-bone" included, at 3108 watt-hours. (And in tests by the RUclipsr Professor Hobo, it appears under-rated, as it delivers 95% of the rated energy capacity as A.C. power.) The reason it is so much lighter is that it is made with high-grade EV batteries, presumably NMC, rather than an iron-based (LFP) chemistry (which reduces lifetime total charge cycles, but reduces the weight dramatically.)
While this unit will not charge an EV quite as quickly in an emergency situation, and is not compatible with being recharged at an EV charger, having it onboard as an "electronic spare-can-of-gas" is quite a bit more practical in terms of price and weight...
(Twelve miles of added range for our Model Y may not seem like much, until you potentially have to walk it...)
Range anxiety must suck. I just go to the gas station when im out of EV juice lol.
1000 cycles is the deal breaker, I rather spend double and get the Delta pro and get 3500 cycles.
Great review. EVs with smaller batteries than the Tesla would gain a larger percentage of total charge.
That was an excellent non biased review in my opinion! The facts were presented, do what you will with the facts! Thanks for bringing this technology to our attention Tom! I would like to know how two of these would compare to a generac for home back up power.
I have the Delta Pro and am using it to power my Sprinter. Unfortunately, I discovered after I purchased the Xtreme EV adapter, that it comes with NO cable to connect to an EV charging station. My local dealership said "well, just use the cable that comes with your vehicle". (The Netherlands leads the world in EV vehicle use.) It took some explaining to make them understand that I am using the EcoFlow to power the electricity in the camper van - and it is not an EV vehicle. NOWHERE on the Ecoflow site does it say anything about the need to purchase an additional cable on top of the EV adapter. Not even sure which one I need. Does Ecoflow assume everyone using the Delta Pro is already using an EV vehicle? That doesn't seem to fit their use case. A reasonable cable to use with the Delta Pro EV adapter and most charging stations would be a welcome addition - on a marketing level, some warning of this would be nice.
Good review Tom, however you missed one important aspect. The Delta Pro is not sold with 240 V outlets in the US. That large outlet is a NEMA TT-30 120 V. The unit is sold with 240 V outlets only in international markets.
Ouch. Good to know but darn I wanted 240.
It’s important to note that as good as Eco Flow products are the quality comes at a steep price. 3,600 for 1 Delta Pro let alone the solar, second unit for home back up and smart panel that requires an electrician to install. So maybe 12k all in.
But their products worth it
$1000 per kWh lol 🤣
I wonder if the reason the Enel X and Chargepoint EVSE didn't work is because they are 40amp? Maybe the Delta Pro can't negotiate down to 32Amp properly (hopefully fixed in a software update.)
I agree I hope they can fix it in software but it may be a hardware issue. There is no negotiation down to an amperage in J1772. It’s simply that the charger notifies the vehicle how much possible power it can pull and the vehicle takes up to that amount. There is actually no restriction that the vehicle obey this however generally a circuit breaker would blow if you exceeded it.
It only charges at 3400W from the J-1772, just under 15A, so that won't be it.
This is one awesome power station. I have been using this to power my off grid cabin.
Great review! Check your Amazon link to the unit as it goes to the add on battery pack and not the full unit.
Thanks - I fixed that
Always appreciate your views because you are sensible and informative.
I know you made a good attempt to make this review as unbiased as possible, but I just wish it was more common for manufacturers one these "reviews" to give you credit to buy a unit on your own terms, than send you a specific unit that may or not have been given "a little extra QC".
I have a smaller, lighter, and cheaper unit from another brand that will work to put a few miles into my car, but I am not interested in the miles the battery can put into my car. Rather what I like is when paired with some solar panels these solar generators can power your campsite and put a few miles into your car each day. If you aren't just leaving your car at the campsite all day, it is always going to be better to plug it in at some public charger when you are out and about.
My attraction to these is that is a battery and inverter and everything packaged up in one unit, so I can put it in my travel trailer, or in the house in case of power outage. I have a smaller one for tent camping and recharging my ebikes, although the larger one is better for lots of ebike charging. If I am bike camping, the 7 pound unit makes more sense than the 60 pound unit.
Looks like it is the jack of all trades in the power station business.
I tossed the delta pro in my pickup and it works great on the job site
I would buy it for house + Home EV charger backup as battery + solar you can take with you if you move or use with RV then reconnect. Use cases of putting it in the car seem very limited with the growing infrastructure plus my EVSE w/ extension cord giving L1 almost everywhere.
I think that you could try this when the car is at a lower percentage charge like maybe 42% or 20 % and see if you get more miles?
I would agree with that Randy. The bulk charging would be lower down, putting the top end charge in is the slowest and probably less efficient overall, it's probably why most manufacturers state the fast charge times to 80%.
Spark charge doesn't sell to individuals I think... plus as a apartment renter I like the dual function as a home battery. 2 things I wanted to see. 240V charging and daisy chaining 240V units to provide a solution to apartment renters.
Thanks for making this video - living in a earthquake area my thought was if I buy a EV and for whatever reason we lose power for a few days or maybe rolling blackouts due to heat waves.. this would be a good help for electric blankets.. charging devices...cooking food... AND give you a good 10 miles on your car (or without heat in the house you could sleep in your car) if you needed to run to the grocery store nearby - and with a solar panel you could just trickle charge the thing- but yeah that price point... ugh that's some $$$ I would never put it in the trunk but... for the house and a EV not a bad idea..... anyway thank you for the review!
I have read in Time Magazine that the listed the Delta Pro as one of the best inventions of 2021.
Very pleased with the Ecoflow pro for powering a cabin. At Costco here $2349. The solar input and needing two might make the ecoflow ultra better suited for ev charging. Want to have a ev charger that takes dc from panels straight to the ev without the extra inverter and battery.
I love your reviews. This might be something one would be as a house back-up/camping power source, but pure physics dictate it's not practical for just charging evs.
Yes but don’t make sense, why would you wait couple hours waiting for your 110v charging. Nice video honest review thanks!
It was a good video but it would really help if we knew why the charge units won’t charge the ECO system. This failure casts a doubt on any charger being used for the system.
I was going to buy this unit for camping and as a backup for my home. I bought the Hyundai Ioniq 5 instead.
Hello, my EcoFlow Delta 2 weighs just 27lbs and has about a KW of power. I get about 3-4 miles per kw. That will get you to a regular EV charger.
Thanks for tackling this one Tom. I have installed a lot of these types of batteries as home backup out in California (wildfire power shut downs).
Haven't tried to charge my Bolt with mine yet though.
I must say... One of the better reviewers.
The benefit disclosure was a great move too. This is always on the back of my mind when watching product reviews.
Well done!
With the announcement of the new Mercedes E-sprinter, I am deff stocking up on two of these to use as off grid vanlife charging!!
Great info on portable charging. I have a question relative to existing networks that Tesla currently cannot access. Love your channel. You are one of a small number of EV channels I watch regularly. Lots of great info and not afraid to express your opinion. How about some comments about the Tesla CCS1 adaptor? I live in Canada and all other EV's can travel to more parts of Canada than Tesla. Tesla Supercharger network is great but locations almost exclusively on the main routes. I'm starting to recommend competitive EV's to my friends who want to travel away from our main highways - even though I love my Tesla in every other way. I'm sure this must be a growing problem in the USA too.
My ChargePoint J1772 connector gets stuck in the adapter. I have several other EVSEs, no issue. The TT-30 is a 30 Amp / 120 Volt receptacle, so not level 2, but more amps than the pigtail 12 Amp pigtail you used. If you want to get to 240 Volts, you need to link two EcoFlow units together with a special adapter that puts each side properly out of phase.
I like that you do good honest reviews. Would also have been good to say how many miles it would add to a bigger less efficient EV like a Lightning, for the less math-inclined
It would add maybe. 10 miles to my Lightning 12 if I was driving 40mph. Not really practical for me as an mobile charger to put in the bed of the truck on long trips - I d need 10 of them ro make it worth while, maybe paired with a generator - I wonder why I wouldn't just get an inverter generator then.
Thanks Tom. Can you plug your car in and at the same time the solar panel? That would be handy if you are going to park for the day anyway and have the ability to get a bit more power into the car.
This is what I wanna see. If a solar panel of about 350/400 on a roof rack of a car and this in the trunk. Parked & trickle charging your car while your on your work shift.
I do really love me EF Delta pro, so much so, that I purchased the add on battery this year. So I have 7.2kW total. Would I use it as an emergency charger for my Lightning? God no. I'd get maybe 14 miles? But...I keep this in my travel trailer and use it to power everything in the trailer for a week or more. It's really just an amazing solution. But thank god I don't have to carry it around.
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You need to check your notes Tom. One EcoFlow will only output 120V. That 30A (TT-30) outlet is a standard 120v RV hookup. You need two and a combiner accessorie to do 240V. That addapter you mentiond only operates at 125V (says so right in the screen grab you used.)
Also, please check for compatibility with the WallBox Pulsar Plus (and other EVSEs you have)
What is the max charge rate on the J-1772 input to the EcoFlow.
Really hope you can do a folow up on the compatibility issuez. Will you follow up with EcoFlow?
It’s actually labeled 125V, not 120.. Definitely not 240 like you said. Although I don’t know how you get 125 from any service panel. Maybe 125 is some old standard name.
My thoughts as well. However - Ben Sullins used the 30amp / 120v with his Tesla 14-50 charger and pulled the full 30 amps (although only 120v). ruclips.net/video/dT7cANoCER0/видео.html. It would be great if they had 240v output from just one unit, but at only 3.6kW, I understand the compromise.
Great overview Tom, did you check with the manufacturer as to be why some of your home chargers didn't work?
Checking the product specifications, greater than 32 amp at 220/240 is too much. You probably could set your other smart chargers to lower output amps and be fine.
@@sciencedadusa4706 An EVSE is not a charger. The vehicle (or EcoFlow in this case) will only consume what it wants and is capable of - up to the max advertised of the EVSE.
Doesn't charging slow down over 80%? I wonder if the unit would have charged faster and added more miles if you had started with a charge level of 30% or less, which is more realistically when someone would resort to a portable charger?
A Tesla (or just about any EV out there) charges much, much faster than the 1400 watts that a Tesla mobile connector can put out when connected to 120V. The Model 3 doesn’t slow down to that point until about 98-99%. The high-ish state of charge definitely did not make any difference to the charging speed in this case.
This adds another one to the list of what the Delta Pro can do.
@@ouch1011 sorry, I don't believe that. I think this would have charged much better at 0 to 10%. This power unit is meant to be a replacement for a gas can. No one needs this at 80% they need it at 0 to 10%. At 80% it probably needs more power to overcome the capacity issues. I feel this wasn't a fair test base on this because it wasn't a real-life use of this unit. Not that this is a good solution to running out of electricity, because the weight of this thing would shorten your
range anyway.
@@grandetaco4416 totally agree, this 80% charging up is not a realistic test, should be simulating a real situation when you had to resort to a portal charger, which means your EV got no charge left.
BMW i3 Rex sports have a working petrol generator which charges in running
I am using it it for 3 years with no issues at all and no range anxiety
I love the fact that I can charge it from a charging station.
Hey Tom. I live your videos and reviews! I searched your channel and couldn't find anything with the Harley Davidson LiveWire. I just got one and it's amazing. I've seen videos that just give a timer for DC fast charging for it, but I was looking for one of your graphs that would show the charge rate at different SOC. Do you have plans do a LiveWire charging video? Also I'm assuming with an adapter I can use my Tesla Wall Connector to charge the LiveWire?
I’m quite confident that the Harley Davidson Livewire will work with the Tesla Wall Connector when using a TeslaTap adapter, although I have read that for North American models, 240 Volt charging the Livewire is not really faster than 120 Volt charging.
4 eco flow delta pro and 6 EcoFlow delta pro Smart Extra Battery 25,8 (KWH and great 👍
Power whole house (400W solar 4 panels EcoFlow test it out
Interesting! I have to check your channel to see if all portable EV charging stations or that heavy. I would think if you're charging station weighs that much, doesn't the extra weight drain the battery faster while you drive anyway?
Yes, it will make a difference. Not as much as the device will add, but weight does play a role in efficiency.
I have a delta pro, I’ve considered getting a Tesla. I guess In some strange unique emergency setting being able to charge a completely dead EV makes some sense… but planning ahead for a few minutes makes Considerably more sense as the delta pro takes a long time to add a few miles… likely those miles wouldn’t even need to be replenished if the delta pro wasn’t in the ev to begin with at its 100lbs
Tom, after making a J1772 tester and testing it a various charging stations I know how tricky it is to get the protocol correct. My tester now works I believe flawlessly but I can imagine this company has not done a sufficient job of engineering testing.
It's pretty easy to try and be the vehicle and get any EVSE to supply power - just a diode and two resistors on the pilot line per the J1772 standard. I imagine they didn't get that wrong. Probably the issue is the GFCI tripping in the EVSE and/or DeltaPro. Same reason you should not install an EVSE on a GFCI circuit since they will false trip.
Hello Tom,
First, I think you do a great job with your videos and your appearances with Alex.
My R1S delivery window is the end of this year. I'm thinking about a Rivian wall charger. However, my garage is a couple hundred feet from my condo and there is no WiFi at the garage.
1. Is there anyway I can get OTA updates for the charger?
2. Is the Rivian the best charger for the R1S?
Thank you for your assistance,
Tom
A point to point wireless connection may be an option, if you can see your condo from your garage wall and vice-versa.
Would it be out of bounds to bring that thing or your powerwall to your job and plug it into the wall to charge up? Much like you plug your cell phone in? Or plugging your EV in at work?
Ok, That sucked. Thanks for your honesty.
I would not mind having the Delta Pro around the house. I can bring power anywhere I am.
How long does it take to charge from an ev charger? Thx
I dont see this as very useful to charge cars. I see it as useful because hopefully you can charge it more quickly than a normal battery bank.
To bad you can’t plug it into the f150 240v plug and have bi- directional charging while driving. (Kind of like a range extender)
It is good for an emergency use battery.
I will happily buy one when it will have a type 2 DC connector. Because converting from DC to AC and then from AC to DC is too much a waste of energy.
Don’t overlook RV parks as a source of charging. Used one with my Model Y in south central MO.
An interesting way to top up a BEV, but you are going from AC to DC and then from DC to AC and back to DC! A lot of energy loss going on there. I do a lot of long distance travel in Northern Ontario so I need a vehicle with lots of range. My truck can travel over 2000 kms with both tanks full of Diesel and if need be I can bring extra jerrycans. I can supply my own power when stopped via 3 lithium batteries and a 3000 watt pure sine inverter built into the truck, theses can be recharged via twin alternator’s whilst driving. It will be a long time before an BEV will be able to do what I currently do.
I wonder if both the ecoflow unit and wall EVSE/charger unit both have GFCI hence leading to the constant tripping?
There are really two different subjects here. One is the merits of this particular product, and Tom did well in covering those. The other topic is what is a purpose for this product that makes sense. I can't see any sense in carrying this around as some kind of electric jerry jug equivalent. I can't see that as anything but absurd. OTOH if you are going on some kind of camping trip and know you will need auxiliary power. If you expect a long stay and bring along some oslar panels, so omuch the better. OTO-OH if you have something like a CyberTruck that is equipped for that purpose from the start, then this device becomes redundant.
I am interested in seeing the 240V charging review, time and miles added
Can you use the ecoflow whilst you are charging it from the EV charger?
Ty for the content. Imho if the mobile charger needs a 3rd party plug for ev use, I'll wait for the next company to design a system that will not need to be tricked.
Maybe at least provide the dummy ground plug if promoting your product as ev charger.
Thanks very detailed video 👍
18:00 what if you hook multiple of them up together and attach the solar panels then they would constantly charge up and then you’d have more kWh to charge any ev. You could mount it on a trailer or something and pull it and never run out of charge ever
How much will EV range be affected by the 100 lbs of extra weight?
Immeasurable
Less than a second passenger. It’s 100lbs on a 2 ton vehicle.
He answered most of my questions. But the one I wanted to know after that was can you charge it from a Tesla charging station. He does tell you how to do it though. But doesn't confirm that it works.
Do you think if you wanted an EV but live in an apt this would be a good option to charge power bank during day and then your car at night on a daily basis?
how much faster to fill up the ecoflow with ev charging vs 120 v?
Rather than recharge the EV when you are stationary can u plug this in on a constant basis so you can increase your range while driving?
Tom - now that Ford is charging 500 dollars for their dual portable ev charger, can you recommend another lower cost option?
There is some incorrect information so let me help you.
1. You need to use the 30amp port for 3600w output
2. This only outputs 120v not 240v
3. You can fully deplete the unit in 1hr or less for that same amount of range with the adaptor which is common and can be purchased locally otherwise you're limited to 20amps.
4. You don't need a specific kind of adaptor just the grounding plug and the appropriate connection
Tom is the best
would this be good roadside assistance? to charge up a dead EV on the side of the road to at least get to a charging station? like some of them will carry a few gallons of gas to a stranded car that ran out.
Sorry, $225 per mile (on your Tesla) or $775 per kWh is a no-go. Your honesty on the other hand, is priceless!
$46,000 Tesla divided by 270 miles = $170/mile. And you get a car, too. I could see the device being worth maybe $995, at most.
@@tomtillman The numbers don't lie!
Can a gas generator work at charging an ev in an emergency? This one is a bit expensive like you say.
I'm looking to get a portable EV charger as my '13 Nissan Leaf due to yearly loss now needs to add approx. 10mi more capacity to allow me a round trip commute to work. And thus looking for something to charge my car while it sits in the parking lot. Thus worth it to spend a
I didn’t know this existed until I watched Tom’s videos.
Be careful with ecoflow when it comes to monitoring your system. You cant just connected to Bluetooth out of the box, you have to create an account online which they may be tracking your use.
Thanks for review. Do you know of any other portable power bank that charges from CCS or J1772 or NACS level 2 or 3, or even that recharges quickly? Thank you.
Can you charge the car while also charging the delta pro with 1600 watt portable solar
would the 240v plug work without a fault like the 110 plug did?