2017 Nissan Maxima Cvt Failure! 🔴 What Signs to Watch For and Things To Avoid!
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- 2017 Nissan Maxima Cvt Failure! 🔴 What Signs to Watch For and Things To Avoid!
Today i share the symptoms and details on the replacement of the CVT transmission in my nissan maxima.
Engine braking, Sport Mode I don't do. I don't ever floor it. I have a 2022 Maxima SR with 15,000 miles. Loving it! You drive it hard, can't do that with a CVT.
Shoulda bought a q50 tbh
@@Ah_Dat_AJI would easily buy the Q50 if the interior wasn't crap. It needs an update
Couldn’t agree more. Cant understand Nissan with Q50 having less features than a Maxima with infiniti being their luxury brand.
Sorry for your expense and feel your pain! I had a 2013 Sentra that I bought certified pre-owned with 20,000 miles and loved it until the CVT failed at 110,000 miles! It was going to cost me $5K to replace the transmission too but the car was only worth $,4500 with a year warranty on the CVT...no thanks! I was never going to buy another Nissan again until the dealership offered me a lifetime warranty ($100 deductible) if I bought a new car from them. It would cover the powertrain (engine, CVT, starter and alternator).The catch is that the dealership will do all the scheduled maintenance, so I purchased a new 2019 Maxima SV for $39,000. Great car so far with no issues (57,000 miles to date). I would recommend a warranty for any car these days. Repairs are too expensive!
My 2014 maxima cvt transmission died at 61k miles had extended warranty i paid $2300 for got a new one Lucky.
Had some steering components replaced too that would be over 1k
@@CurtisDJunior ouch man..... I find with these cvts, you have to take easy on them, they are not like regular automatic
@@alvinsimba734 i take it extremely easy still happened. Not sure sure what happened the first 14k miles though before purchase.
My only take away is change fluid every 30k and always park usong emergency brake. Hopefully the new one lasts
be sure to read the fine print on these warranties. Some of them will only repair the car if the repair cost less than the value of the car. Once the car gets down to being worth $5k, they won't fix it. Hopefully you didn't get that kind of warranty.
Where did you buy it from?
For any newbs. CVT do not like to be raced. They do well on smooth acceleration. If you’re always flooring it it’s likely not going to last. Also, maintenance is CRUCIAL on CVT. The nicer and smoother you can drive it the longer it will last.
So basically don’t use the car for what it’s made for
Drive it like a Oldsmobile basically
So why buy this car if it can’t do what it’s designed to do because they aren’t even roomy…not comfy…not reliable
They look ok…still has that Nissan badge though…
So I don’t understand why anyone would pay 40,000 dollars for them brand new knowing they’re not good vehicles
@@tharpeaddyI keep asking the same questions. Everyone who defends cvt’s says the same shit about don’t drive hard or in stop and go traffic. Who can always avoid stop and go traffic and what’s considered driving hard…so dumb to even say.
My 2016 Nissan Altima 2.5 SL transmission finally went out on me at 181,000 miles. I bought it back in 2019 with 30,178 miles exactly. I love the car and it's gotten me very far to say the least. I'm never getting rid of it, I'm gonna put another transmission in it and put another 181k or more miles on it 😊. Definitely going to start doing the fluid drains every 20k miles though.
181k miles is pretty good. Especially if you didn’t have your fluids drained properly.
@@naturelover2292 Yeah I know right, I'm ready for round 2😄
@@naturelover2292 Damn
I’ve had my 08 3.5 Altima since 2016 and it hasn’t broken. I drive it manual mode every single day. I’d suggest doing what I did and install an aftermarket transmission oil cooler which you can get at your local parts shop for less than $100. Also change your fluid every 20 to 30k miles.
Do they make a trans cooler for 2015 nissan sentra and what part store thanks alot God bless and take care in these troubling times
An you provide the part number by chance
@@i8bigfoot Imperial High Performance Transmission Oil Cooler
Part # 240514 is the minimum I would use. Derale Atomic-Cool Remote Fan-Mounted Oil Coolers 15850 or Mishimoto with Fan are recommended.
@@VentureWelding Imperial High Performance Transmission Oil Cooler
Part # 240514 is the minimum I would use. Derale Atomic-Cool Remote Fan-Mounted Oil Coolers 15850 or Mishimoto with Fan are recommended.
You can get those recommended direct from manufacturer or almost any local parts store.
I just want to say despite the transmission going out the current generation Maxima is my dream car, I love every aspect of it. I have also owned several Nissan products with CVT's never had a problem, but as with any complex machine things happen. Anyways thanks for uploading the video.
You gotta dream bigger if your dream car is a maxima 😂
@@viper24820🤦♀️so you not vaild if you not paying 50,000 and more for vehicle so I guess you have to drive a Lexus bmw Range Rover Audi or a Volvo scatpack this is a materialistic world and don’t forget about the car vet 😀👍
@@none360business6 if that’s what you got out of reading my comment you need to go back to school. All of it too, you need to start in kindergarten, and work your way back up cause gd that was an awful take and that’s not what I’m saying at all 🤣
A Nissan is your dream car??? 😮
A jdm is your dream??? Hmmm…
Reach for the stars 😂😂😂😂
I would take a Subaru all day long with all wheel drive over this thang
We have a 2016 Nissan Maxima Platinum. We got it in August 2015, one of the very first sold in our area. Car went back for the antilock brake switch. They found a problem with the transmission. Jutter Valve. Changed it. We only have about 34,000 miles on it still. So far so good. (7 years later)!! Yes, we are NOT high milage drivers, and it was not out much during the Pandemic. Car gets serviced regularly as suggested. Keeping our fingers crossed!
$5K is nothing; you made the right decision. I replaced the computers and a battery for over $3500 in a paid-for 2004 Prius and it was worth it because I did not have to buy a new car for another 8 years!
The financial advisors will tell you if any two of these things is true, it's worth keeping the car:
E. The exterior of the car is in good shape, keeps the rain off your fool head, and is not embarrassing.
I. The interior of the car is in good shape, keeps your feet from dragging on the pavement below the car, and is not embarrassing once you throw a floormat over it.
M. The mechanics of the car are sound and you only have to fix this one thing to avoid having the car strand you in the badlands or the South side of Chicago without your gat.
But these are the veto options:
1. You just hate the car. Sell it because life is too short.
2. You hate buying new or used cars. Fix it. Life is too short.
3. You hate new car salespeople. Fix it. They don't make money on selling you a car; they make money by selling you the money to buy a car.
4. You hate used car salespeople. Fix it. Rinse and repeat 3 above.
5. You think the car salesperson is cute. Fix the car and ask her out on a date. Even if the date goes horribly wrong, dinner is probably STILL cheaper than payments. And if you buy the car from her, she'll no doubt have a boyfriend already and you'll STILL have to make the payments.
2016 Maxima S with around 140,000 miles. I haven't had any issues. Love driving my maxima.
Then why tf are you here?
I just saw one for sale around the same miles you still liking the ride? Lol
What transmission service have you done so far?
2016 Maxima Platinum 147,000. Transmission just went out and in the shop to be replaced $6600.00. I only had it for 15-20,000 miles. Extended warranty is a must. Nissan says every 30000 miles trans must be flushed.
I Have a 2014 Max...granny I'd a ting up getting worried 146,000 miles
I currently drive a Jeep Patriot 2012 and it’s at 141k and it’s CVT feels great on a cold start. When temps get to hot, it starts lagging. I went and got an oil change, 1quart is hyper lube/3quarts high mileage. Added a additive to my coolant. Changed transmission fluid. Now runs unbelievable smooth, I do not use 87 gas, I use 89 now, because of the compression is better on the pistons. Just be gentle on them, they are very amazing.
Def glad i bought extended warranty my 2017 Max trans started acting funny here and there at 80+ thousand miles. Now getting a brand new trans. Thanks for posting video def made me take it to dealership to check it out!!!
Us to work on Nissan Dealership. Besides the rear wheel drive models. All the CVT no matter the model fails to the point of destruction. 6k to 8k or more $$$. Nissan manual transmission only.
Purchased a 2022 Sentra SR 6 speed manual in Canada and i know Nissan CVTs 2000 and up are much improved, but i always hear these horror stories about Nissan CVTs........
How many miles to change the cvt fluid?
@@Therealpeter10 25k to 30k only use nissan brand cvt fluid you'll need 5 quarts and you'll have some left over dealership will charge $250 or so be $145 if you do it yourself figure $18- 22 a quart plus tax.
@@johnjacobjingleheimerschmidt thats too early manual says 60k tho
@@Therealpeter1025-30k. No matter what the manual says.
From a guy who has worked in not one but two Nissan shops, I can say the first problem was buying a Nissan that’s 2013 and above. Honestly they are built a lot cheaper than the older ones.
Would you say that on any Nissan? I've been considering a new Sentra Sr or used Murano 16-18 or maxima 16-17 but I've had issues on past Nissans I've had (Altima 09, Sentra 05). Currently driving Lexus and Toyota.
Explain what people mean by jutter on these cvt transmissions.
My 2016 Nissan Maxima has 323000 miles. Still runs solid its now my second car after buying a 2021 4Runner. I still love this car and take real good car of it. It will be my Sons car when he gets his driver license.
The CVT service intervals on nissans should be evey 20k miles , the fluid gets very hot very quickly before the transmission cooler cools it down , therfore the fluid gets burnt and starts damaging the CVT
it costs $225 dollars to change it so doing it every 20K miles would add a significant operating cost for the car. The manual says do it every 60K.
147k never have never will gets driven across the country 3 times a year hard
@@crand20033 I got mine with 41000 miles when I got to 60,000 I made sure that service done. So far no issues!
I just talk to a guy who said he used to work on cars 30 years. Anyway he said the same thing, to change it at 20k.
@@juancontreras8376 is that 20k after 100k miles on the vehicle?
My mom did everything right and got regular maintenance and the transmission went out on her 2017 Altima. It’s currently in the shop for replacement.
This is concerning. I have a 2016 with 69k miles on it. I did notice a few gear slips. Just changed the Transmission oil this weekend at the dealership. Car seems to be running very well at the moment. Definitely will be keeping my records.
Damn, just as mine 16 with same miles. Was gonna do transmission fluid change at 100k. Thinking now of getting rid of as I dont wanna hold on to junk.
My 16 is sitting at 98k I haven’t had a problem yet
@@mahammadshariff6162 I think we might be okay. It's not every Maxima has issues. But I would get that transmission oil changed during next oil change
Good I heard change it every 20k miles and you should be fine.
I jus got a 16 at 65k
By reading the manual every 60000 miles you should do CV T flush as part of your maintenance And at a 120000 miles you should change all the spark plugs that is in the manual You can PDF the manual on your phone
My owners manual for my Altima says to change the plugs at 105,000 miles.
Purchased a 2017 Maxima last month. Car had 56k miles on it. Took it in for an oil change/tire rotation and 60k mile service. Sure enough found some stored transmission codes which included the jutter. Car was under 90 days and 4k miles so transmission is getting replaced at no cost to me. Glad it went out now. My extended warranty covers 5yrs/125k miles which will will keep it covered as long as I keep the car for the most part. I don't race this car and no need to ever be in manual mode. Car is a great daily driver.
60k miles and a new tranny...... that's ridiculous. Nissan should be ashamed. I could have bought the same car, same year, with only 9000 original miles just a couple of months ago.... but honestly, I don't want a CVT after all the time I spent reviewing these transmissions... I keep a car a long time and never replaced a tranny... right now, my Acura is 20.5 years old with the original tranny.. I wish you good luck.... and definitely keep changing that fluid.... a secondary cooler may makes sense as well...
Explain what you mean by jutter
Nissan uses Jaaco CVTs which need a fluid flush every 20k miles to stay fully functional over 100k miles. Unfortunately dealers often tell ppl not to replace the fluid because it's a "sealed environment that you shouldn't break." so that they can get the money when you need a new transmission.
Nissan says to change the fluid every 60k miles in the owners manual.
@@trenton737 if you change it every 60k you're still risking your transmission. Many different mechanics have recommended to change it every 20k-40k.
That being said every 60k isn't that bad and will still let your transmission last way longer than if you never change it at all
That service advise was stopped years ago. Subaru also uses a Jatco transmission and they still advise their customers to never change the CVT fluid, to this day. That’s why Subaru cvt’s have the most issues now.
I purchase a brand new 2017 Maxima, with now 90k miles. I didn’t do any manual shifting of gears, mainly city driving and occasional long distance driving during the holidays. Mechanics noticed an issue and recommended I get the transmission replaced. Luckily I purchased additional warranty insurance. But it is ridiculous to have to replace a transmission under 100k miles. Salespeople keep calling to upgrade, but this will definitely be my first and last Nissan product. CVT=cheap value transmission
@@Prometheus1906 Cheap Value Trash!
I had a 2019 Nissan Maxima SR and the transmission went out at 72k. I now have a Lexus and love it.
The new CVT's today from Honda and Toyota actually use a gear to handle your initial acceleration and at the required interval, hand off the job to the CVT transmission. I think Toyota and Honda are also going to 4 cylinder turbos to replace their v6 engine. Turbo plus CVT means you must be on your maintenance game. If you buy used, you MUST demand service records from the Seller.
2009 Maxima and still running strong...no issues!!!
My 2008 altima coupe CVT just started failing. 163k and changed the CVT fluid at about 100k and again at 163k. I just changed the oil and replaced both filters. I never replaced the paper filter before. I would suggest not to change your fluid if your car is over 120k. I treated that thing like a baby. I used Itimetsu fluid which is pretty much the same as the NS-2. I would also recommend avoiding long trips on windy roads and lots of hills once your car gets over 120k. A trip through the Ozarks is what triggered it for me I think. An altima with 120k+ should become a commuter car only in non-hilly areas.
I got a 2017 SR. No problems at 198k miles. But I'm selling it next week. My 03 altima has been near flawless the 19 years I've had it. 493k miles and still rolling like a champ 😎
Damn that's a lot driving in 5 years! I thought I drove a lot. So far my 2016 is doing okay. About 75k miles. My first Maxima and I love it.. Such a nice interior and fun to drive. So I'm praying the transmission doesn't explode
@@scottaayyallday indeed it is. I'd recommend doing a drain and fill every 15-20k miles. I guess that's why mine lasted this far 🤷♂️
Did you do any transmission service at all ? Any current issues with the transmission?
@@mahammadshariff6162 did a simple drain and fill ever 15k miles. When you look at nissans reputation for cvts you do preventative maintenance. But I had a shuddering problem but it was caused by the fluid degrading over time. Just do drain and fills early and pray for the best 😅
I got a 2017 SV at 107k, trying to stay on top of maintenance, so i can get to 150k+ with no problems lol
the older models didn't have as many issues.. I'm definitely done with Nissan vehicles altogether.
Richard, you are right. New Nissan vehicles are garbage and I've owned many and used to work for a Nissan factory. The best one I ever had was a 97 Altima 5 speed manual
This seems to get-around the design defect: Keep 'em cool as many ways of reduced coolant/distilled water ratios, both filters and best cvt fluid each 30k, allow set overnight or allow 8 hours for full warm drain to obtain around 5.5 quarts if not flushing, seal all air leaks of radiator plenum (Time -consuming), keep radiators clean. I'm now 209k Mojave hard-and-hot conditions, full AC
But the question is why do they still pair CVTs on a large car with powerful engine? They should be the classic torque converter, or DCT. CVTs are for kei, mini, subcompact, and compact cars which are aimed for fuel efficiency.
Facts their asking for them to break when put on powerful engines.
Just to add my experience for any new CVT owners, my Maxima 2014 was bought in Oct & a major services was done the previous June on it including cvt fluid replacement with filters and all that. However, the transmission gave away in Oct.
i had option to replace with a used one like you mentioned or repair it with a specialist. I went with the latter. Perks were they gave me 3 months warranty & you know that parts on the inside are new. If you go with a used one, you are not sure of its condition, might end up stranded again in few days and the warranty period on those are really less, maybe even just 5 days. So, my suggestion would be to have it repaired instead with original parts & of course, from a transmission specialist. And pls do not put your foot down hard on these CVTs all the time, (occasionally is okay or when the circumstances need it). Drive normally & you should be fine!
It’s important to also have a steady foot from take offs.
Thanks for the video. I drove Mitsubishis for 20 years. All had the JatCo CVTS. 80 miles was my max before I traded. Last year I bought a 2022 Rogue. The Rogue is amazing and I got a good deal on it. I am an old man and I drive like one. Personally, the money you save on the car is worth the $5000 you put into a new transmission. A slight inconvenience? Yes. You made the right call.
I just traded my 16 max 101k for a low mileage 19 and I'm pretty sure my CVT was getting ready to go too. It still pretty much drove fine but going from P to R it was more resistant and would pop pulling the shifter. The real concern was going from R to D there was about a 1 second delay before it would go in gear. I was also getting more judder at certain speeds, specifically about 32mph. I also had one time my rpms went really high for no reason.
Lessons learned! I never did any maintenance on it, dealer never recommended it. So the new max will be getting a CVT oil change every 30k. Fortunately I got a solid return on the 16 max and a decent price on the 19. I will say driving a newer max REALLY has made me confident the 16 cvt is running on borrowed time.
My mechanic threw me out at 30k and told me to come back and do that at 60k. He knows his shit.
@@rickjohansson4257I’m a master tech and sounds like it’s time to throw out your mechanic. You don’t ignore cvt fluid for longer than 30k miles tops.
Nah ah my maxima 2017 platinum my rpm needle drop around 32 mph too! Around the 30mph speed limit bro it jumps when I’m not on the gas trying to coast
it sucks you had to replace the transmission, but you did admit that you know you caused the damage by driving very aggressive. Im really hoping my trans will last the life of the car, the only semi aggressive driving i do is quick acceleration from a stop every so often. I just did the fluid flush around 55k miles and it runs as smooth as butter still
The transmission will go out no matter how you drive it. It actually grinds the fluid, plus it's metal slipping and grabbing. Having to worry about passing on the freeway or accelerating for some reason is completely stupid. They were making more money by putting cvt in their cars . Actually they can't use them for big SUVs or trucks because they won't make 75k
My takeaways. Keep mileage down. 129K over 5 years is high mileage? No hard accelerations to 80mph. Don't use the paddle shifters to create additional transmission strain. IE be good to your transmission and it will be good to you.
It's obvious from the video and his comments that MD is VERY hard on engines and transmissions. Good on him to own it for this review.
Keep the mileage down? Oh wow.
How about Nissan stops using JUNK Jatco CVT transmissions and you can drive the car like it's designed to be driven. There is a reason Nissan has had numerous lawsuits about the transmissions, and it's not because it's a quality transmission.
2018 maxima sl...alittle over 107,000 ......proudly trading it in.....I had no major problems with the car besides the attempts of people trying to steal it...... However, I noticed that it is starting to drag among other things.....its indeed not in its prime anymore, and I respectfully would like to depart from it.. .also the back clips from the panorama sunroof all of sudden broke off...entered the car and second part was retracted....beautiful and great car to had own for 5 years....
Thanks for the video. I have a 2017 Platinum with 31,000 miles so it doesn't have any problems yet. I hope it makes it as far as yours.
2017 SR 136k o issues
2017 S 90k running brand new
I have a 2011 maxima (original owner). My transmission failed on me at 300k km. I never put my car into manual mode, for my mechanic told me never to do that. I did replace the transmission with a used one with 190k km on it, and so far, I have no issues with it and now my car is at 413k km
I believe your mechanic is wrong. My 12' Nissan owners manual says to put the car in manual mode when going up or down steep slopes or hills.I have always done that and am in my 13th year of driving the car with the original CVT and zero issues.
Man, I wish I would have saw this video before I bought two Nissans, because one of them is giving me these exact problems
Did you do transmission services b4 rpm changes?
New transmission or remanufactured was installed?
U gotta flush the fluid every 20k. Always let it warm up a minute or two, take it easy first 5mins of driving. Don't drive the car hard overall, it's a CVT. Check for fluid seepage during svc intervals. Check with dealer for TCM updates. U do all that, plus cross your fingers and pray, u may have a chance! Btw, I'm leasing a 2022 Altima Platinum. I got a warranty. But not sure about buying it out end of lease.
Few if anyone ever know to do this, let alone are going to do it. It's really unheard of routine maintenance. For most people automatic means set it and forget it. Statically keeping that car is a bad idea you can see from space.
That is nonsense if you have to change it every 20k miles.
Toyota and Honda don't have to do that crap.
Lets me know that Nissan is an inferior car to those two.
@@tom11zz884 Who has the time or money for the extra maintenance, Nissan is trash 🗑
20? No. Waste of money. 60K is soon enough.
It's a closed Transmission dumass
My wife has a 2017 thats starting to act weird its skipping first gear sometimes you tap on the gas its literally jumps to 5000 rpm then it drops and drive fine its been doing it alot more lately im thinking we may lose her Transmission soon
Great Video...Thought of getting one because I think the engine is great. however I am afraid of the CVT.
Be very afraid. I’ve spent thousands of dollars on Nissan transmissions. Do not buy a Nissan
I dont really hear about these maxima problems here in Dubai, especially the ones from 2016 and above…. And btw the dealer here in Dubai does not recommend changing the cvt fluid.. I believe the one’s in dubai are installed with a bigger transmission cooler.. so thats why i dont hear about the transmissions issues even without changing the fluid… the Gulf Spec is really much stronger because of the addition of a bigger cooler… i know some people that reached 200-250k miles without touching the transmission fluid and they’re still doing well, only top-ups were done….. but what i’ve seen is that those who incorrectly changed the fluid faced problems…. Of course it all depends on how you use the car… some people change the fluid every 30k miles but still face problems, thats because of their driving style and mostly the US specs have this problem as i said here in Dubai they’re equipped with a bigger cooler
Im in Dubai, and I have a 2016 SR, bought it in Dec 2015 from the local dealer. Car is still a joy to drive. 110,000 Km on the clock. I love the car so much, but I guess the farewell is nearing :') the comments here made me concerned.
@@nidalonso8692 dont worry bro nothing’s gonna happen its a very reliable and powerful car just dont play with the CVT fluid.
I have the maxima platinum 2017. Thanks for opening my eyes with this video 👍🏼👍🏼
I have a 2018 nissan kicks with 135000 miles alredy. Transmission sometimes slips. And I have kept all services up to date. This gives an idea of how much it will cost me. I'm already getting ready. Thanks for your video.
That is actually kind of reassuring to me. I think I will be happy if I get that many miles on my Kicks before I start to have transmission problems.
I only ever used the manual shift for downshifting on ice and snow. I do drive my 2017 hard though. Ill keep an eye out for rpm stuttering.
I have a 2014 Maxima with 92k miles. My transmission started acting up with a code for the transmission fluid pressure sensor stuck in open. I was told it was a valve body issue. I changed the fluid but that didn't fix the problem. No one would touch this car. Dealership stated they don't service the transmission at all. So I ended going to a transmission specialist in NJ call Level 10 transmission. They actually brake down the transmission. At the end of the day I purchased a upgrade transmission with large pump and torque converter. Car was paid off since 2018 so at this point the money was worth it. My new transmission has a 3 year 50k warranty but the kicker is to change transmission fluid ever 30k miles. If the dealer would have told me to change fluid every 30k my transmission would have lasted longer than 90k
I change mine every YEAR...DIY and easier than a oil change!
Not taking any chances an extra $100 better than 5000$...
Also put a hayden trans cooler on mine...shame on Nissan for this junk Jacho trans
@Vincent Kosik I asked about a secondary cooler. The new transmission I just purchased from Level 10 transmission actually puts a bigger cooler on during build. So yes, shame on Nissan.
@@MrHeat1up that's sounds good..I live in the South and need not worry about cold winter mornings...the CVT fluid needs to be warm enough to properly function...I read that some setups of aftermarket coolers need like a thermostat...not sure....anyhow, hope you have a good one and I'm crossing my fingers on this one....I drive real gentle and I keep the fluid overly clean...but that's still no guarantee it won't stb...other than that a very nice car
Good day..
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. First, I am shocked that a car like this even has a CVT. I don't think I agree with that. And I had no idea these CVTs require such frequent fluid changes. Someone wrote in down below that an oil cooler should be installed and I definitely would do that. I am watching this video because I am thinking about buying a 2017 Maxima SV with only 9000 miles on it (today is 11/30/2022). The car just sits in a garage and never used and I think the guy wants to sell it. I currently have a 2003 Acura TL-S which was 20 years old last June and it has been an amazing car. I have done nothing except a lot of maintenance and I still have the original tranny, which I have serviced often as well, but not 20k miles...... that's crazy. I am sure the Nissan manual doesn't require that. My Acura only has 134,000 miles on it and it runs like the day I bought it. I was just thinking to get a new car at this point after 20 years and this Maxima with only 9000 miles on it seemed like a good move. BUT, I am not so sure now. These CVTs in a performance car like this was a mistake. I don't want a $5000 bill. Sometimes it pays to keep what you know. I don't drive much anymore anyway. I definitely like the looks of the 2017 Maxima though.
Without doubt great looks. But like you, that CVT scares me.
@@fazilm1 I have to assume that if the car is not driven hard, especially when cold and you do frequent fluid changes, they will last 100k miles or more.... personally, if i had one i would get the fluid and filters changed at 20k - 25k miles and make sure it had an external cooler on it... maybe even get a secondary cooler.... this way it won't get as hot...
Funny, since I posted initially I had to replace the original tranny on my 21 year old Acura... maybe I should have kept my mouth shut. But i have no complaints after so long... but the $4000 was rough... the car isn't even worth that anymore, but the motor still runs like new...
I was surprised that you hadn't had any problems at 100k plus. I had an 11 maxima that was paid for. At 84K, the CVT made a whirling or winding sound. Changing the fluid did nothing.
In short, bought a CPO lexus gs 350. It's 100 % improvement over the maxima. I can't recommend any Nissan at this point after owning a Z, Zx and two different maximas.
Yeah I lasted a while, definitely making me change my driving style
My 2012 Maxima same issue fun car to drive Loved the handling
@@Baysidereviews Why beat yourself up? Even using "fake manual" and engine braking, the car STILL lasted you over 100K miles before you had to spend some money to repair it. That was probably 8 to 10 years of fun driving, right? I call that a WIN! Drive 'em hard and put 'em up wet, I say!
If CVT fluid didn’t correctly fill in, whining noise continues. In my case, I own Honda city 13 and have its CVT fluid dropped at Honda dealer. Guess Honda did fill it up correctly. Unfortunately, it didn’t and noise remains there and I rushed back to Honda to buy another litter of Honda ATF DW1 to put it in at correct level by garage nearby. Problem solved. Sometimes but not alsways, dealer know to make money from your pocket. So be careful and take care of your asset.
3 maximas, altima, titan and a qx56 and 3 lexus currently a 2017 lexus lx570. nissan is nowhere in the realm my 2010 maxima did the same. I'm never going back to nissan
Nissan is a joke thanks to the CVT transmission failure and bad customer service from the Nissan dealership. Get a Toyota vehicle I'm done with Nissan.
Baby it, don't challenge any drivers, don't get all up on it on their interstate or highway. Don't be the first to jump off the line at the red light. Just baby it, and stick to your service manual religiously, and document every service.
On a side note, incase anyone didn't know this. But for 5,000.00 there is an alternative! Paying to have a 6sp manual transmission conversion and installed. There are shops out there that are experienced in doing this.
Thanks! Good to know.
@@supertrooper73 at the end of the day, it's your ego vs a expensive investment. The car will give much more than what you get from those short lived moments driving aggressive.
@@VentureWelding Indeed
Or get the base model Versa that has one and pay thousands less to begin with..they are about 17,000 now for the 2023
Thank you so much for the video! I learned a lot from it! I have the same problem with my 2016 Nissan Altima and right now it is at the shop and the transmission will be replaced! Please update us from any class action lawsuits as it will be nice to recuperate some of this money.
sucks..
Change the oil every 50,000 km u will never have issues and use lubegard with it ruclips.net/video/MMSC4Yew560/видео.html
Sad part also is no dashboard warning notifications😢
Yeah when you notice these issues it's already to late. I think about our Maxima constantly 80k 3 fluid changes but still don't trust it after all the stuff on utube and other reviews
129k, your doing good, that's a nice run. They normally have a reputation of 75k. I bought my 05 at 75k with issues and they replaced it under warranty, 75k later it did it again. Then I got the 2016 when it just hit the lot. It drown in a hurricane right after I paid it off, insurance put 50% down on a new one. Get a warranty and be happy.
I got my ‘17 @ 11k in 2017. It’s now at 240k. No CVT fluid change since I got it, but I’m considering doing it now lol
I had a 2016 Maxima. 90k miles all highway. Mother Nature took it out in June 2019 from big hail. What a relief, I went to Toyota trucks, I’m still happy never owning a Nissan.
Here's what happens with a "Demo". Someone who works for the dealership gets to drive the hell out of this car for a short period of time with no concern whatsoever for the long term life of the car. They know from the drop that the car will be sold with very low miles and as close to the price of a new car as possible. Back in the day salespeople got Demos. They are now typically reserved for entitled over payed managers. I treated all of my demos like rented mules. I once worked at a Mercedes dealership where one of the other managers took his sedan down to the home improvement store and hauled construction materials in it like a truck. After putting a bunch of stuff on the roof with no racks he had to take it to service to get the sunroof to open again so it could be put out for sale. It was a well optioned car and the dealership made plenty of money on it when it was sold. The dealership also gets to write off the expense and depreciation on the car. The customer gets the shaft. In my experience the dealership sells these cars for a much higher price than if you were to buy a car new and then turn around and sell it with a few thousand miles on it yourself or trade it in. As soon as I heard the word "Demo" I knew how this story would end. Sorry to hear it cost you $5K. At least now you have a fresh trans in a beast of a four door car.
Change the fluid every 20-25K miles. if you look at the design, the engineer even allow you to have easy access to the CVT fluid filter. Dont follow the Nissan manual. Honda CVT needs the fluid change every 30K. we have some Civic and Accord into 200K+ miles. 1 even has 520K miles.
I owned a 07 nissan altima with the cvt tranny. Sold it at 113 miles never had a problem with transmission. I did my transmission fluid change at 85k miles. The car served me well for the 11 years i've owned it. I literally only paid about $1000 per year for this car. If i had not gotten a good deal on a toyota i would have bought another nissan as well.
I’m getting my trans replaced I’m at 60k didn’t have any symptoms I did a hard scan on my own and found the cvt judder code so I took it in my buddys at Nissan recommended we just replace the trans it was actually calling just for a valve body replacement but we went ahead and did the whole trans again I had no symptoms at all
I own a 2013 Nissan Altima I bought used with 16k on the odometer back in 2015. I happened upon Scotty Kilmer's site thank God. I immediately began to drive like gramps, no more engine braking, no hard acceleration, and kept on top of maintenance. You must change your oil with synthetic every 5k and transmission fluid (by the dealer only) every 30k. Just change the tranny fluid and DO NOT FLUSH. Dealer change fluid is to insure the required Nissan fluid is used. Car has 55k on it today. Gonna get 7 more years from this baby. I also keep detailed service records for any Buyer should I decide to sell. Never buy these CVT tyranny cars without detailed and verifiable records.
Nice video man! And I appreciate the honesty and transparency.
We have a 2015 nissan sentra 40200 miles the cvt went out in it final cost for a new one was 4780 it sucks because i had the fluid changes about the 36000 miles i can’t believe theres not a class action lawsuit on this we bought it used 4 years ago with 19000 miles from carvana it was a fleet car in florida department of transportation it was about 3 yrs old when we bought it. We dont drive it like a hotrod all service was maintenance by dealer oil was changes every 4 months even if i put only 1800 miles on it. We work only 3 miles from our home. I tell ya that trans looked like it was towing a tractor trailer for 5 years. So cvt jatco transmission SUCK !!!! Lawsuit against nissan YES !!!
I just got a letter in the mail from the dealer says my 2017 Nisan rogue transmission is under warranty until 80,000 miles.
There was a class action lawsuit for your Sentra...should have looked up💔💖recall
I’m suppose to be getting a 2021 Nissan Maxima SR This year. I’m kind of scared to get one. Hopefully the new one will last longer.
I got a 2019 Platinum and it's fun but if you want something to really push, then pay the extra couple grand and get an infinity Q series.
@@josesiller5907 Yea I might just stick with trying the maxima out. It really stands out more than any other car that I have seen of the newer models except for the accord but I’ma give it a try.
Good video..I have a 19 Platinum and theyve have been hounding me about an extended warranty. I may listen because Im at 47K Miles
Do it
i have a 16 Maxima with 100,000 miles got it 3 years ago with 40,000 im a speed demon love that 300hp and i use that sport mode i dont manual shift like i used too i used to use it all the time but i end up putting back in drive anyway so its a fun gimmick but about the transmission i want a newer Maxima anyway so when my car get to around 125 to 130,000 im trading it anyway it wont be paid off but iim not replacing no transmission.
Wow, my 2009 with 198k miles still has its original trans
My 09 maxima transmission went out at 215k miles
My 2016 Maxima SR has over 162,000 miles with no problems so far.
Thx for posting. Sharing experiences helps others and you never know when something might be posted that might help you.
After reading about Nissan CVT issues, I still just now took a risk and purchased a 2015 Altima 2.5L because the price was so low. Car drivetrain appears to be operating top notch despite having over 210,000 miles on it so yeah... I'm wondering if there is such a thing as a CVT designed EOL even if it was maintained perfectly (of course, no way to know you only have the word of the seller). Compared to your videos, I hear nothing of the roughness you seem to get al all RPMs, mine is practically silent through the entire range.
In fact, I'm currently trying to figure out a weird whining sound in my car that is louder only when in idle and actually gradually disappears in a couple of distinct steps as torque/rpm is increased... Completely backwards from what people describe as signs of a failing CVT. Although the whine seems to be related to RPM, am considering it might be unrelated to the CVT, eg A/C.
In any case, fingers crossed, I'm hoping that if my CVT fails, it won't be for at least another 8 years or so which hopefully would allow more pulled and remanufactured CVTs to come to market. I notice that at least today that there are so many available used and remanufactured CVT older than 2009 that decent options exist as low as about $500 whereas today it's really hard to locate anything for your and my model years... I see a couple "maybes" for about $1600 and am not surprised at all that you paid $2500 for a remanufactured which probably has a decent warranty plus misc parts that might total another $300 or so.
Discovered what the whine I was hearing is from a comment elsewhere.
After a bit of testing, verified it's the electric power steering.
The comment I read said that person had it diagnosed by a Nissan dealer which said that the whine "was normal" so don't do anything about it.
Wow. It's a very prominent whine, and as I described is completely opposite how people describe CVT problems in that the whine is more prominent when the engine is either at idle or low RPMs and although still there is less prominent the faster the car's speed.
Hope as described it really is nothing to worry about. There's no problem with steering and fluid is fine.
And, just to be certain I bled the line by turning the wheel all the way extremes several times.
fluid type is nissan psf
You did good my 2018 ford focus transmission fail apart at 39k miles.
Junkky ford
Good lord! Save yourself money and a headache and drain, drop the pain, clean the pan and magnets, change filter, put everything back and refill. It’s not that hard people. Do this every 30k miles and it will last a long time. Preventative maintenance is key. Don’t believe the manufacturers and dealerships about the lifetime fluid. They want you to replace the transmission or buy a new car. It’s all about money.
Exactly
2016 Maxima 100,000 miles and in stop and go traffic it kinda does this jerk thing and then takes off .. I love my bby I don’t wanna give her up 😢
I feel you. I have a 2016 maxima and I love it. I'm at 98,000 miles and dealing with this CVT Judder issue. Taking it to the dealer in the morning. I'm sad already because Lord knows I can't afford a $5,000 cost😢
Definitely feel you pain…. My 2015 Sentra sr is on its 3rd transmission and this one is also failing…. This is within 1 year of getting the transmission replaced…Like you said it’s not worth going out buying a newer vehicle that is severely over priced… I’ll be sure to take the car back to the dealer for them to replace it again for the 4th transmission before my 1 year 12,000 mile warranty is up… luckily caught the issues 300 miles before my factory warranty was up
I just bought a new trans in my 2015 sentra sr 4800 bucks only 40,000 miles jatco trans suck and there should be a lawsuit
I have a 2009 Nissan Maxima that’s at 160k miles and never has a problem with the transmission that’s why I would rather buy the older model
I went for a 2013 toyota camry v6 xle.. but a while back I bought a used 04 nissan maxima... but.... I told the place I bought the car from, for me to buy it they had to fix every check engine light and new Transmission .
Hello-I'm a Mechanical Engineer that owns a '16 Maxima SV since new. I have 115,000 miles on it. When you said you bought a Demo model, I cringed. All it takes is one CVT belt slippage event to start a never-ending spiral toward failure. In my mind, Demo car= Rental car; they get trashed, but you'll never know it since it happens over time. Sorry for your loss. I have my fingers crossed also for mine. I declined the extended warranty and would rather be self-insured; even though it's $5K, it's still a great car (IMO).
Yes! The class action lawsuit covers almost the entire lineup with the CVT. My car is a 2013 Altima, but I’ve got 190k on it and I drive it like a granny. My next vehicle will absolutely be a Toyota product hands DOWN. I’ve loved the car and it’s gotten me from point A to point B but overall it hasn’t been worth the stress of worrying about it.
Toyota also has CVT's however supposedly they are better then Nissan
@@craftlover9702 no belts all planetary gears in Toyota
@@miketresham4783 and they use chains too. I got the 2020 corolla myself and all my driving in both the city and highway is 2000rpms or lower. Higher elevations at the most 2800rpms, thats how efficient it is.
@@miketresham4783 Does that mean it's much better?
So did they replace the transmission? Is it a different design?
Just because there's a paddle shifter, people think it's a race car and abuse it by keeping it in the upper rpm range like a race car on a track and down shifting instead of using their brakes. Of course it's going to break. You welcome CVT. I got you 🤛
If they put in a remanufactured transmission that means it can be rebuilt 🤔
I remember hearing that CVT transmission fluid has a shorter service interval. I work on a friend's civic regularly that has a cvt and at it:s 25,000 mile service interval the fluid is always black, he now has me change it every 20,000 miles...
1998 maxima still has factory atf never changed it still runs new.
Gets better mpg than the newer model
98 maxima, how many miles now?
@@mahammadshariff6162 was @ 198xxx just did a hr swap
I just got a Nissan nd it’s preowned nd I think something is wrong
I never liked engine braking even with a normal automatic transmission. I don't want all of that stress on my clutches and gears. Brake pads were meant for that instead. The way that I see it replacing a transmission is much harder and a whole lot more expensive than brakes! This is considering that some places charge $800 or more to do brakes. I would rather replace a warped disc brake, they are a lot cheaper and infinitely easier to change.
Believe it or not a 2004+ Lexus LS430 is a better car in every way. Bulletproof reliability. Supremely smooth quiet and powerful ride. One of the best stock audio with the Mark Levinson and it’s cheaper than a 2017 maxima. These cars will do 500,000+ miles easily with very few issues.
@As_i_c_it Except for 2007 to 2012 models with front end bushings...$6K at the Lexus dealer
@@turnne yea that’s ridiculous. All because of defective rubber. I have heard of Lexus covering the costs if you make a stink about it. Same with the brake actuator.
@@Mabeylater293 Hyundai Genesis/Equus is a better proposition
@@turnne reliability isn’t near as good
@@Mabeylater293
I disagree
two relatives had V8 2009 Genesis..one bought brand new. No issues until at least 150K miles and the one needed a wiring harness. I have owned an Equus for the last 7 years and only replaced a wheel bearing. A buddy of mines used to have a 2011 Lexus LS460( bought CPO) ..he had both the brake booster and steering issues. he didnt pay for it...but I think he told me it would have been $7000 had he paid for it the Lexus dealer
AND the Hyundai V8's can use regular( 87 octane) and pretty easy to do your own maintenance as well
The problem with Nissan CVT, the transmission cooler is small and has no capacity to cool down transmission.
I got a 2020 maxima and smh I’ve heard nothing but bad things about Nissan …but yet I’ve owned 3 Nissans and not once had any issues with either …
Prior to 2002, Nissan was not merged with Renault. That merger was the end of Nissan as we knew it and it was all down hill from there.
I have a 2017 maxima 110k mile current had no problem with my cvt . I service cvt every 30k. My first service didnt trans service dealer replace tran even though i had no issue. My maxima been a great car. Most people dont maintain there transmission
All my cars are Nissan but I don’t have an issue or problem.
Sadly I've heard that most if not all auto and CVT transmissions made by Nissan are garbage. A manual with one of these cars on the other hand is a different story.
CVTs are supposed to be serviced every 30k miles. My around town / work car, 07 Altima 189k miles
I bought a 2016 back in April last year only had 55,000 when I bought it. A month after getting it the transmission started to have a shutter so I took it to the dealership and they found a shutter code in the transmission. They replaced the transmission and about a month after that they had to replace my transmission valve body it drove fine for a while but then I start to feel bumps in the transmission so I took it back to Nissan about a month ago and they had to replace the valve body again. Now a month later I’m starting to feel the same bumps in the transmission and it shifts weird. This should not be happening for a 3rd time and I only have 74,000 miles.
Keep all your reciepts for a long time. I have a funny feeling a class action lawsuit is in their future. Just a funny feeling i have after seeeing so many people comment on these issues
Lemonade, crap!
I always put an aftermarket cooler so far its been great for me
There’s always 2 version on a story
I have seen CVT Pathfinders with over 300k miles but their owners do the Transmission Fluid drain and fill every 40k miles
I have a 2015 Rogue with over 100k miles and 2 Transmission Fluid changes and 0 issues except for a pcv .
I would buy a CVT with confidence
That's why it's best if you're not mechanically inclined stick with brand new cars and as soon as the warranties out get rid of them get a new one with another warranty
Got a 2018 with 3200 miles on the odo...so far so good...as of 2022, I got 33980 miles on it.....lets see how far this baby will get me....
Nissan really needs to ditch CVTs already - and fast - if they want to save their reputation.
Steady foot on takeoffs otherwise different acceleration results and thats normal. Some dont know how CVTs operate and how sensitive they are to your foot. I saw that the car was accelerating in both clips and no slips whatsoever just a different acceleration behavior to throttle response.
Those RPM's don't appear to be too out of whack. You got all the way up to 80 MPH pretty quickly. But maybe I am wrong....I did just purchase the 2017 Maxima in 2021. It had 88K miles on it. I've put about 10K miles on it and love driving it. However, I did just spend 3K on the 100K tune up and to have the AC Evaporator Coil replaced when we noticed we were no longer getting cold air. I wasn't happy about this and wish I would have bought the extended warranty. Other than that, I love Nissan. I don't have a problem with the CVT like most everyone else does and I really enjoy the heaviness, traction, and sportiness that the car offers. My first car was 92 Maxima and I finally have another one that I has exceeded my expectations. (Minus the AC issue but that's what I get for being cheap and buying a used car)
The RPMs actually were winding up quite a bit, considering that the Speedo wasn't moving upward all that fast. The Maxima has really got some brass ones if you step hard on the gas. Then yes, the RPMs will wind up and you'll shoot like a rocketship. But he's right; he wasn't really stepping on the gas hard enough in those 2 videos to justify all the noise and fury of revs in the 6000 RPM range; not at all. The CVT was definitely complaining like it was in pain.
My honda gets to 80MPH with only 3000RPM then stable between 1900 to 2300RPM. Going to 5000RPM to get to 80MPH is definitely insane and it tells you that the Trans is going OFF soon.
The see-sawing RPM is the stupid feature this transmission has that simulates a 7-speed automatic's shift points. It tends to only do this when you floor it, so over time you can learn how much beans you can give it before the transmission starts trying to pretend it's an auto. You will actually be quicker if you accelerate right underneath this threshold. Didn't see anything in the videos that was abnormal. If your CVT starts to slip, it's different. RPMs go up, but you aren't getting torque. Or keep losing torque periodically. Also, by that point, it's most likely too late to salvage it.
Thank you for this video!
This sucks I feel like the v6 engine is too powerful for the CVT transmission it’s what damages it even more I have a 2013 Altima I for sure do feel some jittering at times but overall still a good car and it runs very well I do all maintenance myself to make sure it gets done I have around 167,000 miles
Did you change the transmission fluid at 60K miles? A warrantee will cost me $2500 dollars and may expire before the transmission fails. Not worth it.
My 2012 Mitsubishi Lancer has the exact same problem but the rpms only spike up like crazy after a 20 mile drive
change the tran fluid, and, the tran filter behind the driver's side front wheel, every 25k. just drain and fill, no need to "flush"