10 Used-Cars to AVOID for BAD Transmission - as per Consumer Reports
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2021
- A Bad Transmission make the vehicle totally unreliable. Because transmission failures are expensive to fix, and no one wants to deal with a bad transmission. Automatic Transmissions can fail due to many reasons, including harsh shifting habits and manufacturer defects. Its not just every CVT (continuously variable transmissions) are bad. Consumer Reports data show that some models carry a significantly greater failure rate than other models. If you are on the market for a used-car, avoid these 10 vehicles.
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Most common "word" was CVT, second most common "word" was Nissan.
@@pamelarose3258 No wonder there was an international search for the head of Nissan who escaped Japan. They used the worst transmissions on the market- Jatco which is a subsidiary of Nissan. These trannys were also used in Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance Infiniti, Mitsubishi, all associated or owned by the same mega group. I don't believe they put CVTs in their trucks at least up to 2010. Just had to research that for an issue with my FIL's Frontier and it's a conventional automatic.
I’m going back aways and I don’t know if I recall correctly but, I bought a 2004 Audi allroad, which had one of the most complicated transmissions back then. I bought the car used but, it was a lemon, the transmission started having issues immediately, I was not in a position to return the car, the warranty repair was shady and, when I took it to my mechanic, who’s done great with my former 1999 SAAB 9 5 Sportswagon, he kept the Audi for the entire summer. Can’t remember if this had a CVT trans. But, I remember reading something about CVT, there was a lawyer suing Audi about this, but he was a lawyer for strippers (that’s not a typo). When my mechanic “repaired” it, I couldn’t get a block, without problems, he told me that, in order for me to get my money back, they’d have to remove the parts. I sued for the repair and won.
My buddies 2017 Nissan Altima's CVT died at 30,000 miles! WTF! My mom has a 2012 Dodge Caliber with a CVT transmission , and with 125,000+ miles, it works great still! Automotive CVT's are just 2 electronically controlled hydraulic actuated clutches with a metal - link belt that connects the two. It's based on a simple drivetrain put into snowmobiles , mopeds, some ATv's since the beginning of time!
Oh this is so true and it hurts, nissan has some beautiful cars that I can't get because of the cvts. They're iffy on even lasting the first 100k miles. I'll just pray they make a sentra with regular auto/manual transmission in the next few years
I like my Nissan's. This wasn't easy to hear. But dosen't surprise me. Nissan's had a timing chain issue too. I have one. About 40,000 miles and it started making this noise, like lifters clacking. Turned out that the plastic guard around the chain breaks and the chain starts hitting the casing. But I still drive it with 120,000 miles on it.
Round of applause to Nissan for doing its part to be on most of this list 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
lol
😂😂😂 💯
You can thank Renault for turning Nissan into crap 😆 🤣
Very True!!
I didn’t know of the chemistry between Nissan and Renault
1950s Fargo truck with a straight 6 and shift on the column.
You couldn't kill it. And Lord knows as kids we sure tried to!
Fond memories of days gone by.
As a former (and never again) Nissan owner, I was not at all surprised to see so many Nissan/Infiniti vehicles on this list. And the one I gave back to the bank didn't even have transmission issues. It was an electrical system mess.
I had a Datsun 610 stick years ago..an amazing, well-built car. I loved it.
Too bad times have changed.
That CVT transmission is going to be the death of Nissan. I've never seen a car company continuously have serious problems out of a engine or transmission and still continue to roll the same problematic component off the assembly line.
Looks like they phased out the cvt out of the pathfinder maybe they’ll continue with the rest of their lineup. I have a frontier and it has a regular automatic. 15-20 years ago I always told people to get a Toyota, Honda or Nissan if they wanted something relatively trouble free. Now Nissan is in the same clown car reputation Mitsubishi had among shitty Japanese designs.
Get Renault out of Nissan if Mazda can breakaway from Ford Nissan could definitely break from Renault
I remember during the 1980s Nissan was one of the best cars. My roommate had a 1989 Sentra. I think he put 200,000 mi on that thing.
@@lukeskywalker1840 Man you ain't lying. Those old Nissans used to be so reliable. Now they are known for transmissions that grenade. And this is coming from someone that actually has a nissan leaf as a second car. But I already know that once that leaf hits 90k miles that I've pulled the pin. It could explode any minute.
I have heard that on most of their models for 2022, Nissan went with ZF transmissions, so that should cure at least that quality issue for them.
Back in the 50's I never heard of transmission failures. Manufactures have cut cost so much they are turning out crap.
Apples and oranges you can't compare cars 60 years apart. I do agree manufacturing is going into the toilet.
Also hard to kill a transmission with 75 horse power 😉
When cars rusted and fell apart at 100K miles you didn't have too many transmissions fail first.
I've always had a manual transmission, and unlike back in the day when they were cable clutches, the newer (since the 1990s or so) hydraulic clutches last a long time, in fact I've had some that outlast the car itself.
Yeah, if you don't abuse them they can outlast the car. Not terribly expensive to have replaced, either.
My great grandpa always had a manual transmission too.
Nissan CVT is known as the Carlos Ghosn special. So many engineers and executives tried to move away from certain Models using the CVT but certain people in the company refused to do so. I'm glad to see Nissan is finally moving in the right direction.
Nissan was sued for this and after that they improved their CVT transmissions.
They should lock up Ghosn just for that alone
I can remember back to when manufacturers were beginning to consider CVT transmissions, and my friends and I thought "they're going to have so many problems with those things." Turns out, it was much worse than any of us realized.
The main issue is THE CVT FLUID and how sub standard it is to not changing it and letting the fluid oxidize and the belt goes to hell , ..Go with AMSOIL CVT Fluid ..I have a 2012 Rouge nearly 180k and no problems so far.and I don't use it for towing anything.. ruclips.net/video/DDIUxdxNAOQ/видео.html
Not with all manufacturers. Nissan was specifically bad. I’m not a fan of the dual clutch.
Nissan main problems with it are: Making them not strong enough, not cooling them enough and ppl not changing their fluids at the correct interval.
The AUDI CVTs were pretty bad. They would start giving problems by 50K miles. They used a multi-link chain which would wear out and break.
Yup... the second I see a CVT tranny I immediately move on to another car lol!
I’m a retired G.M. Technician and retired is because I was tired of doing warranty repairs on Chevrolet Traverse transmissions or anything on the R body for that fact! Now I work at a factory, have a easy job, great hours, benefits, more money, and no more worries.
Smart man.
I had a GMC Acadia that had to have the transmission replaced and then it had to have the pistons replaced.
What's the most reliable GM SUV?
I have owned 3 Buick Enclave's 2011-2014 & 2017 all had the tow pkg. that i ordered and not one of them went back for any warranty and each got 90K on them before i traded them in. I tow a 5x10 enclosed trailer across the U.S 2-3 times a year 2068 miles one way. I think is the way people drive, switching gears while going from on direction to another among other bad driving habits. I cant see where the transmissions are defective after the 2010 upgrades.
I've got a 2004 GMC Savana with the 4.8 liter v8, 240k miles and going on the 3rd tranmission. Engine runs great, tranny, not so much!
137,000 miles on my 2019 Honda insight cvt and still going strong and I drive it like a race car too
You drive it like a race car? Bad move bruh, bad move. 👎
@@4evertrue830 been fine since day one. Been going 115 to 120mph in it on and off and still fine.
@@4evertrue830I'm sure he knows an insight is not a racecar. I doubt he cares a whole lot about it either. Plus I want to hear how long it lasts driving it rough. We need more data if they are going to keep putting these transmissions in cars. 👌🤷
Keep up the good wk
I have a 2002 Toyota Sequoia with 268,000 had alot of stuff done and finally drove out of state with no problems.
Being a former ASE certified automotive technician, I noticed that most brands had greatly reduced quality/reliability the newer they got. This is the main reason I have held on to my 1996 nissan maxima with the micro finished internal engine parts. In my opinion that is the last model year that nissan had reliable cars. I bought it while still in high school with 83,000 miles. It now has 237,583 miles with original engine and transmission and no sign of giving up! Only issue is a minor oil leak.🥰
I am so impressed. I wish I had kept my 1st car. Buying cars is like spinning the roulette wheel.
Sounds like a great car!!
I got a 2004 Nissan Frontier with 265k miles on it that would like to join the discussion
Would Lucas Trans lube or fresh trans oil help on the GM 4T65E with a hard shift when cold ?
WOW ! That is great. I have a 2000 Subaru sportscar I only have 75,000 miles
on it. I love my car. My son is ASE Certified mechanic so that may have helped.
Basically... Don't get a Nissan.
Certain years because I still see many of those 2011 or older Muranos on the road.
@David Hill all vehicles have a potential to fail. I'm speaking from My Personal experience and the years that the video mentioned. I see 2005s still being driven in Atlanta.
@@dennismelton2261 Of course years matter. The older the better. The "new (last 10 or so years) are really bad. Their cvts have constant issues, often before 25k miles. My wife had a 2012 Altima. It needed new trans in less than 3 years old. She bought it new. That was replaced under warranty. And in the next few years countless other things went wrong.
@@earthling1984 if that logic is true then tell Me why 2016's are not listed in the video and tell Me why My Murano 2016 (which is newer than a 2011) has yet to give Me any problems, and I've traveled to Florida from Atlanta Georgia on 4 different occasions 6 plus hours one way as well as to My mom's 15 different times and she is 2.5 hours away one way.
The fact of the matter is all vehicles regardless of the make can have glitches in them with only just 4 or 5 thousand miles on them, and with all models depending on the owner if kept up with regularly scheduled maintenance can and more times than not will get one 250k.
@@dennismelton2261 You are lucky your 5 year old Nissan hasn't given you problems yet, especially if you have CVT trans. Good luck with your ticking time bomb.
Great information amazing work keep up your Great work 👍👍👍👍👍👍
My 2012 Ford Fiesta is almost at 100k miles. Transmission was replaced under warranty but I'll definitely be keeping my budget open for something else in the near future.
This video can be summed up in 10 secs- Looks like you should avoid all Nissans, and definitely pass on a CVT. Bring back the manuals.
Yes! Manuals please!
For that reason, Manuals are expected to disappear.
A MANUAL transmission is a GREAT THEFT deterrent too !
Manuals are pretty much impossible to find anymore.
No. Automatics, the traditional ones with many gears, are better and are more efficient. Manuals are good for developed countries, not traffic-laden ones.
"Honey, let's drive up to the mountains. We'll take the Traverse whose bad transmission has plagued us for years and attempt to pass slower vehicles."
I would bet 90% of traverse owners have no idea their car is a shit transmission. I would also bet 90% of traverse owners think they need to change their air filter fluid at each oil change.
Most Traverse buyers work for Avis and Enterprise.
Probably on the way to his mother in laws home...
Made in China I hear...
@@mikeautry2271 America doesn’t need any help making shitty transmissions.
The CVT is by concept a Ford Model T transmission. However, it had belts could be changed by the side of the road. When Ford started selling the German designed CVT in several models it became a nightmare and now parts are hard to come by and complete rebuilt transmissions are pricey and no guarantee they would last any longer. My 2005 Ford Escape has 230,000 miles on original alternator and 3.0L V6 with the CD4 transmission still running strong.
Specifically the Fiesta should only be mentioned for the automatic transmission. The 5 speed manual cars were/are great. Both my daughters have them in a 5speed manual with over 100K miles. Only normal maintenance has been required so far. We didn't choose the automatic transmission for the very reason stated in this video. The auto transmission was a dry dual clutch model that was problematic at best. Same transmission story with the Focus automatic in those years.
You could easily expand the years on most of the Nissan vehicles mentioned. The Nissan CVT issues are widely known and not limited to one model year.
People are trying to get away with using the cheapest gas because the dealer tells them that they can use it just so they can sell the car. The lower octane gas causes the CVT transmission to malfunction and most people continue to pump cheap gas and drive until it ultimately kills the car.
What boggles my mind is despite the reliability problems with their CVT's, they have continued to use it for DECADES! This is the main reason I have never owned a Nissan, but I have owned a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry and now own a Lexus ES350. I love Japanese cars but avoid Nissan's.
Subaru is the only manufacturer that has current cvt issues. Nissan hasn’t had a widespread cvt issue since 2014. -20 year master mechanic
@@dontcare563 their newer cvt have improved thats why also honda had bigger cvt issues than nissan, difference being honda took the L and replaced/fixed them all.
@@Moistnmeaty90 That's good to know, I bought a Nissan rogue sport 19 with 48,000 ,after finding out it's weakness I immediately changed the transmission fluid,Nissan charged me $27 a quart though 🤬.I'm thinking about using that Amsoil.Also it was really dirty when I changed it, same with my oil, the dealership acted like they changed it when they slapped their oil change sticker on.5¢ oil change from them
I know a lot of people that really need to watch this video. Never go out and just buy the first car that you see.
Agree specially if you are a female & alone ..the sharks at the dealership will kill your with higher cost . Note : never ever go to Toyota Glendale.. the salesmen are cheaters.
10-2013, 2013 chevrolet traverse
9- 2016 nissan altima
8- 2011 nissan rogue
7- 2014 infiniti QX60
6-2011 to 2014 ford fiesta
5- 2011 to 2013 nissan murano
4-2019 kia forte
3- 2012 to 2017 ford focus
2-2013 to 2014 nissan patfhfinder
1-2012 to 2015 nissan sentra.
Ty
Cvt can't handle more than a 1.6 non turbo engine.
OMG: Six out of ten are Nissan cars + crappy CVT trannies.. 😮
So should I reconsider purchasing a 2015 pathfinder? Lol
In 2016 Ford switched from a duel clutch transmission to a traditional six speed automatic transmission for their Focus which might of been in some markets like in Australia at that point in time as we recently purchased a used 2016 Ford Focus that was in great condition and it runs really well and the transmission on it feels absolutely amazing as it’s a six speed automatic transmission and is not a duel clutch one! :)
Had a 2015 Focus (my 7th Ford over 35 years or so) and it went to the shop five times for clutch/tranny issues. Got two programming adjustments, then a totally new clutch pack, then another program upgrade, and a new clutch actuator. I finally got rid of it because after all that it still would quit in the middle of nowhere. Absolutely the worst car I've ever owned, and $1,500 of my money for rentals and another $1,500 for "non-covered" charges, the dealer basically and Ford said no more fixes, so I dumped it...also my last Ford.
@@Beauxtrux
Yeah those transmissions were absolutely awful. What’s also interesting is that Wheels magazine in Australia recently published a list of the top five used cars to consider buying with one of them being the 2017 Ford Focus which has a similar six speed automatic transmission as what was added to the 2015 model in 2016 to replace the awful duel clutch transmission! :)
It doesn’t surprise me to see Nissan rule this list. I have a buddy that worked at the Nissan plant as a quality engineer in Tennessee. Management always stayed on him about “meeting his numbers” and pressured him to let sub quality parts go through the line. Their middle management was filled with narcissistic jerks. He hated it there and eventually quit.
Automatic gearbox especially CVT itself is the problem. Manual transmissions last half million km-s easily
the problem is the JATCO (Nissan) CVT transmission assembly. I doubt they're made in the TN factory. The car's final assembly is in TN.
@@kennygee2715 Whatever. That wasn’t even my point at all. My point is that Nissan pushes quality engineers to meet numbers and push unsatisfactory parts through. Period.
That is so like company where I work. We make steel construction. I was at quality control. When I return something to be fixed than management complain how we do not have time for that, we need to deliver construcion on time and there must be weight as much as can be (because payment is done by weight of construction).
Latter when customer complain, again management complain to me, how could I made that mistake, I must pay attention at quality etc...
Than I am between two fires, quality or number, what ever I pick I will make mistake, because management won't be satisfied.
@@fitfogey I get what you're saying. I guess if quality sucks at the TN plant, it probably sucks at their transmission plants too.
Scotty was dead right about most in this list
Scotty is dead?
Jadco transmissions
Dotty was right yeah
waving his hands, he tales the truth
@@NIVO1972 You mean Jatco.
I've been dubious about that CVT ever since its inception! In a nut shell, it sounds like one should only buy a car with a CVT transmission if its brand new and then sell at end of warranty, and never buy one used! A great video. Thank you
On our second Nissan Rogue. First had 111,000 miles. They are awesome cars. No problems with CVT.
Other manufacturers using CVT- Toyota, Honda, Subaru. Better MPG, less maintenance. Maybe there has been problems in the past but I don’t see them going away.
I owned a JDM Toyota Estima hybrid 08 with CVT and almost 200k km on it and it still going smooth! Toyota is the King of reliable cars
200k is basically like new for a Toyota. You'll easily hit 500
My 2015 Tacoma has had zero issues since new. A+ for reliability.
With the exception of some years having rust issues (which Ive been told Toyota took care of) most Toyotas are unbelievably reliable. Continuous improvement 👍
@@lightningdriver81 fyi, if you find yourself on a limp mode(30mph top speed) Toyota will fix it for free.
Scotty has been warning us about the Nissan CVT for many years now
Scotty is a clown😂
@@squirrelcovers6340 Whats your problem with Scotty
@@pennsyltuckyden9823 He's a backyard mechanic and a youtube expert. He knows zip about cars.
@@tooltime9260 Ouch that hurts. But yes, Kilmer is the patron saints of all who know less than cars than he. If you can't see how little he knows about cars, you honestly shouldn't be commenting and outing yourself. Kilmer is a joke.
@@ohger1 The guy was a mechanic before you were running down your Mommys leg.
I like all the true facts about car problems, and it was also good learning new stuff about how CVT Transmission can appear, I also planned on getting a car maybe a 2014 Volkswagen Passat V6 SE
Im surprised that you didn't include the 2013-2016 Chevy Spark in your list, in fact it probably would have ended in the top two of the worst with the notorious CVT transmission.
Also chevy Cruze. Terrible pick up. Slippy transmission.
Great info! Soon to be in the market for a good used car. Have to keep these things on the mental bulletin board. 👍🏾
Around the 4 min mark, Yes! I had a 2013 Jx35 now called the Q60 Infiniti. The transmission went around 70k miles literally 4 months after my 5 year warranty expired ,😢$3800 later, I got it fixed but traded it in 2 years later before it hit the 100k mark as the Infiniti sales guy suggested. From my transmission mechanic is where I learned about the CVT transmission being a flop👎🏼. Sadly, I loved my 2004 Nissan so much which is what made me get the Infiniti as an upgrade. Thanks for this video.
2007 Nissan Altima here at 200k miles. Still goin strong ✔️ take care of your vehicle
I couldn’t agree more. Buy new and ensure the dealership takes the plastic off so no one else has a chance to abuse. Perform required maintenance and drive your vehicle like you actually care about it and a person will have a high probability of a reliable ownership experience regardless of make and model.
only 200 MILES ...come to UAE 2017 models covered 1.75 miles ...
💯 spot on correct. 08 Altima @145k reg.main no issues, leaks or recalls. 30mpg hwy.
Nissan's are notorious for failing CVTs. Nissan dealers are worse at covering it up. My Pathfinder was failing at 60000 miles. The dealer tried to bill me for a new transmission. Then I mentioned I was fully aware of their recall. They replaced it for free... Scammers.
Great video 🔥
Thanks for this valuable information. Plus the video is exceptional for putting a label of each car you were talking about at the top of the screen so we can keep track of which car your talking. This is rarely done. And comments help out too. I have a 2016 Versa that has a factory warranty to seven years in order to keep it off the recall list. So I baby it.
I took the picture being used as the poster image for this video. The 2012 Kia Sportage’s engine starved itself of oil, just like those in the big Hyundai/Kia recall, yet Kia refused to replace the engine. I posted that picture to Kia’s social media relentlessly because I was (and still am!) pissed off. It makes me so immensely happy to see that pic being used here to continue trolling Kia, even though it had nothing to do with transmission failure.
I had a 2013 traverse and just traded it in for a new car. It was really good to me. Only real problem was an evaporator replacement. Still ran great at 114k miles.
114k lol that's nothing. Say that when it hits 250k. That's literally break in for Toyota
the audacity of youtube to present me with a nissan ad before this video 💀
I had the opportunity to ask two Nissan engineers at a local softball game about the problems they’re having with CVTs. They said upper level management knows about it and their attitude is as long as it makes through the warranty they don’t care to do anything about it. I guess they don’t care about repeat customers. The grandson worked for Nissan in Dechard, TN , he was very dedicated to buying Nissan products and even bought a new Titan, but couldn’t afford to put gas in it. He traded it in on an Altima, the CVT went out, his wife had bought a smaller Nissan Sentra and now the CVT is giving problems but it’s got 75,000 miles on it and Nissan says sorry.
They don't care and it'll likely be thier undoing eventually, takes years to bring down a large company but I hope whoever "doesn't care" is left broke and alone with nobody to fix except horrible employees that couldn't fix a clogged air filter.
Yet, you keep buying Nissan! No wonder management don't care because people keep buying them.
Same with Subaru. My cousin in Indiana is executive management with Subaru in Lafayette and they pretty much do all they can to deny cvt claims and pretend Subaru problems don’t exist. I can’t tell you the number of late model Subarus I’ve fixed lately as a master mechanic. Subaru’s poor quality is staggering.
@@Moistnmeaty90 yep this is the unlovabe open secret about formerly glorious Subies, which were such great scrappy and useful cars. Such a shame! Incredible how brittle american corporate has become-- even damaging GM which had fairly decent cars for quite some time Just sickening...AND against the national interest, bcuz vehicles are part of critical infrastructure when considered as a unit or system. So the gvt has an interest in promoting quality and punishing lack of it. Gvt's within US territory should buy toota fleets, for sure, and wake these Ford/GM idiots up!
Interesting to note that nowhere on this list is a manual transmission listed. You can also prevent your car being stolen by getting a manual.
As a European all we really have are manuals so it's crazy to see the entire list just be some form of automatic gearbox
Luke….. I am … not your father
When I hooked up with my wife many years ago she had a Nissan pickup truck.....the transmission went shortly after we got together. Cost me money. Never again.
@@tonykennedy1615 never having sex in a pickup again 😂 or never a manual again or never an auto again 😂
@@lukesalvidge118 I had a Honda Civic at around the same time. It was a standard and one time we banged it into neutral (pun intended) and had quite an adventure. True story. Lol.
Chyrsler corp minivans had terrible automatics in years past.I was in a transmission shop saw disassembly very small parts lots of shert metal and tons of plastic.I was amazed they held up at all
1. I had the 2014 Ford Focus, and i had that issue. The transmission was replaced twice. I eventually let the car go.
2. I eventually wen to a 2013 Nissan Sentra after i let my Focus go. The caveat is that i got a Sentra with a manual transmission. I am currently on 200k, and it runs great. I replaced the clutch once. Its about tome to change it again. Recently I took a trip from Florida to New Mexico. The car ran like a champ!!
I used to work at nissan as a co-op mechanic and the amount of cars I would get with a blown cvt was more than oil changes... Honda uses cvt, toyota and Subaru but theirs is chain drive cvt not a rubber belt. Idk why tf nissan would use rubber in the first place. Theres a reason why cars use timing chains now and not belts...
I think you are mixing CVT belts with valve timing belts. Rubber belts were used because manufactures claimed customers liked the quieter rubber belts. The real reason was the rubber belts were cheaper. Many manufacturers are going back to chain belts in the valve system because they last much longer. There is no such thing as a chain driven CVT transmission, although the CVT belt does have metal in it. I just bought a 2007 Kia with a manual 5 spd gearbox and a the engine has been replaced with a used one. The clutch and flywheel were replaced last year. i should be able to get another 200K with only light repairs.
CVT uses a steel belt.
Honda and Toyota use a steel gear for first gear when starting to drive, it is called a launch gear then it moves over to the cvt...I know, Scotty Kilmer told me
@@eugeneczerwinskyj3354 And he certainly told you to avoid the Nissan CVT 🤣
Subaru uses an all steel belt (chain). I looked at an actual unit..
Very informative... I had a Chevy traverse... Transmission went at 40000 and again at 60000... How do manufacturers get away with this low quality crap?
People keep buying it. Here in the south all the good ole boys talk about how Chevy makes the best cars EVER!
@@brianeighties4481 don't get me wrong...i always had a chevrolet or other gm product but it seems lately they are going backwards in quality built transmissions. this doesn't only apply to gm. I know a guy who bought a one year old bmw and the engine went less than a year later. i know nissan also had serious problems with transmissions. some vehicles even burn oil from new as far as engines go....
@@RailFanRob I haven’t been impressed with GM or BMW in years. If I had to buy either one I’d choose carefully.
Two words: Planned Obsolescence.
The same way Joe Biden got elected.
Nissan was a good car company back in the 80' and 90's . I bought a Nissan truck in 86 . Lasted a long time. Only problem I had with it was the tailpipe rusting out. Then Nissan was sold to Renault in 99 and it was straight downhill from there.
As a twenty year car tec,you want to avoid all cvt systems.What the stealer ship won’t tell you is by adding a transmission cooler would fix 95 percent of the problems. Most times when you hear about a bad transmission for a specific year,the problem is fixed by adding a bigger transmission cooler thats it.Hope this helps.
We can add a transmission cooler to it?
I have a 1972 Datsun 510 for many years, what a amazing car, nothing like the pos Nissan from nowadays.
How many of us let out a collective sigh of relief when our vehicles weren’t mentioned? 😰
2019 Jeep with 9 speed owner here. Its twitchy but working.
Bought the extended warranty.
2019 Rav4 Adventure with 8 speed, holding my breath.
I would hope so, my car was $122K brand new. Porsche 😂
Glad to see no mitsubishi on the list, my lancer is still kicking after all these years
A mechanic from a dealership that inspected cars on trade said the number one reason for failure of the Nissan CVT was lack of proper maintenance coupled with not enough over engineering in the first generation. Apparently people didn't know you had to change fluid every 25-35k and filter and inspect it at every oil change. He had seen them fail at 80k with no proper maintenance on a regular basis regardless of brand and also seen them go over 200k miles with regular fluid and filter changes done before each additional 50K. Kind of like the study done between the Kia buyer and Honda buyer, the Honda buyer was 3 times more likely to have all the required maintenance done one time, which when added to a better overall car makes for a much greater reliability.
I had a Ford Escape.....it was okay. Transmission went out at 240k. My Nissan Rouge was okay. I learned how to change the tyranny fluid myself but it still sucked. My Kia Sorento was excellent but after 200k it was about to go. I finally got a Toyota Hilander. Even with 185k on it....rides smooth as silk!! I'm stoked for the future. Now I can drive anywhere in America with the confidence that I won't be stuck calling AAA.
I am curious to know if Nissan finally addressed that transmission problem across all their models?? That CVT has been the subject of numerous complaints going back to 2012 but Nissan kept putting it in their vehicles and it seemed they didn't care about customer satisfaction. An automobile manafacturer that does that doesn't deserve to remain in business.
Nope...
I know they have started in some, the 2022 Pathfinder has a 9 speed automatic vs. the old CVT
My 2010 Altima is still on its first CVT transmission with more than 140,000 miles. It is just now starting to worry me with odd noises and vibrations.
I don’t know anything about cars, but I know I don’t want one with a CVT transmission…
@@michaelkeogh8454 serviced it?
I have a 2014 QX60 and do a partial transmission fluid (dump and fill) every 20,000. Filters are changed every 100,000 miles. It has 170,000 miles and runs like a dream. No issues with the transmission. The big secret is I do it myself and use the recommended fluids.
That's called maintenance
...and as a former Nissan tech
You're doing it right
Congrats.
My Jeep Grand Cherokee 00 had transmission issues. At 150000 miles the transmission trashed out. My Mechanic found out that the spring in the 3rd shift gear would break. He did save me a small fortune by having the transmission guy just replace that spring
All you had to say was:
- Any Nissan with a CVT
- Any Ford with with a Powershift dual-clutch transmission
I've owned two Nissans. Both fell apart around 70,000 miles. Everything else broke just before I had problems with the transmission. My 65 Chevy C10 still runs. I am on my second used engine though.
Not bad for nearly 70 years of service. Long live vintage American trucks.
@@k9er233 57 years. But who's counting. It runs better than me. :)
@@danmadison5087 Brain fart. Math challenged today. Too many late nights and early mornings. Wish I had kept my '49 Advanced Design 1/2 ton.
I had a 2009 Nissan Altima and still going at 213,000 miles. Best car ever. So I guess it depends.
2016 Hyundai Tuscon Sport/Limited 7 spd dual clutch transmission is infamous, anyone who owns one has probably had the misfortune of having the car stop moving altogether in traffic with the notice that the transmission needs to cool down. Also when attempting to accelerate in order to make a left hand turn before oncoming cars the car will just lose all forward motion making it downright dangerous to anyone unfamiliar with this behavior. There was a "software upgrade" which supposedly fixed the complete shutdown issue, but the car never drove properly, I always likened it to being an automatic version of someone who can't drive a manual, that's pretty much how it drove everyday. A new $2400 dual clutch assembly was required at about 60k miles, and a new turbo at about 80k thankfully I had purchased a warranty that covered it. There is a class action lawsuit on these transmissions but Hyundai never really admitted any issues even though they stopped using it. My 1.6T engine threw a rod at 135k mi a few weeks ago and I do not drive aggressively at all, I never even speed, the car is gone now. Sadly the fact that it had a 7 spd DCT was one of the features I initially was attracted by, the motor was surprisingly strong for such a tiny engine, and one thing I can't explain is that it was still going fine on it's original brakes at 135k miles...?
CVT transmission have a sparepart change like belt and pulley, but some reason so difficult to get them in rural area.
The DCT with advance CVT have problem with dual clutch which is need to replace in Long Miles.
Standard Planetary Gear Matic have problem with sludge and oil replacement (Commonly need 2 gallon sometimes need more) also Clutch replacement after Long Miles.
AMT is so rare in Northern America, its like DCT. Need to change oil period time and clutch
2014 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk should rate here. I did 60,000 miles when the "Service Transmission" message showed up, just as it was starting to struggle on acceleration. I had it towed to the dealership and have been waiting for two weeks for a "progress report" to let me know what's going on. But apparently, this model shows up with transmission problems. Not sure if I should get it fixed or scrap it, since it was built for a dealership to show off its prowess, and everything ELSE is very good.
I had a 2012 nissan sentra for just about 2 years. From like 43k miles to 98k miles and I sold it. I am sure glad i did. I wasn't aware of all the cvt issues.
The likelyhood of me buying a car with a CVT is about the same as buying a house with an HOA.. Roughly zero%
Toyota ecvt is the best auto gearbox around
@@Shane-zx4ps Maybe.. When you never hear of one failing for 200,000 miles then I might consider. I barely trust "traditional" automatics as it is.
@@frankish5314. Have faith brother, I used to be like you, but I trust Lexus/ Toyota
@@Shane-zx4ps eCVT has no steel belt and is nothing like a regular CVT. Toyota offers a dCVT with direct 1st gear which is the best CVT on the market today... hybrid CVTs are a bit of a misnomer
@@frankish5314 Aisin makes the best auto transmissions... they've been Toytotas supplier since forever
Oh wow. I had a 2019 kia forte S and absolutely loved it with no problems. I only had it for 2 years though
Thank you for sharing 🤗💓
Nissan scored 6 out of 10 on this list. Well done Nissan!
They are speaking about the same 6 cvts in 6 different cars by the same company ..
@@TRPERA Thanks Captain Obvious
At least they scored high in something
My friend had a Nissan from this list and it was an issue before she even had the loan paid off
@@o.3772 Hahaha!
I had a Saturn Outlook, and I bought it with over 135,000 on it, and it was a great truck, minus the transmission shudder, and gear hunting going up hills, in which I just let my foot of the gas for 1 to 2 seconds, and the problem stopped until next time, but at over 167,000 miles, the transmission sounded like a motorcycle was behind me, and some clunking noise was coming from the transmission, so I sold it a week later for $700, and I told the neighbor who bought it what was wrong, but it still works and drives. 3 weeks later he's still driving it, but it's going to give out eventually..
I used to own a Saturn outlook nothing but problems
I bought a 2013 Nissan Sentra and have had no problems..great car..drain the cvt fluid once a year .as easy as an oil change.
Must keep the fluid up to date..it not only lubricated, cleans but cools the cvt...I added a cooler too since I live in Florida
HA! LOVE the stick holding up the hood at 8:37
CVT saves gas, but you give back all of the savings when it fails. Better to get a manual. Better performance, very good gas mileage, and best of all, durable.
Lotsa luck there if you're in the states as manuals are getting tough to come by... very tough. Diesels are even tougher once you get away from trucks.
Yep. Went old school manual when I got my 2011 Fiesta. More than 60k miles and ten years on and it still running with the original clutch disk.
Should've mentioned the 1998 ford windstar. I had one of those, yes the transmission blew in it.
This just reinforces why I drive a 2006 Toyota product
Never will have problems with the transmission.
I am driving a 97 Toyota Camry XLE and I have 175,000 miles on it! Had to use my jumper cables to give my coworkers a jump! Both had 2021 cars ! I Love My Toyota!!!!! I keep it maintenance! Oil change ,Belts, air filter, etc! I am so glad to see this video! Any car I get will be A Toyota, again!
Avoid those with 2.4L engines and those with the 2018+ 8-speed auto trans.
@@anonymousinc6330 Toyota's speed transmissions are fine now.
@@marklintwo It only took them four years. Still couldn't pay me to own one. I rented a 2021 about six months ago that had the same problems so many people had previously mentioned.
@@anonymousinc6330 That's not what the Toyota Master Diagnostic Technicians say. 8 speeds are fine, extremely reliable. Some just don't like the feel of it.
@@marklintwo The same Toyota Master Diagnostic Technicians that said I didn't need to change my trans fluid (what's the drain plug in the pan for?) and tried to tell me my water pump could fail at any moment with no signs of leakage? My Camry will never see a dealership again. And yes, I do not like a transmission that jerks under conditions that my six-speed auto does not do so.
Missed the 2010-2012 Chevy Equinox. Daughter had one and Transmission went out at 110,000 miles. Googled it and they had a ton of transmission issues on this year of Equinox
dont forget the $1k charge to install a new water pump as well. GM engineers. Its not the part thats expensive, its all the damned labor because of what you gotta take apart.
You’re right also my friend’s girlfriend has one and she relies on it to get to school and work the trans mission drop on the highway under 100k . After all that the insurance company only paid out 85% .
at 110,000 miles not bad.
How many times did she change the automatic transmission oil? On the equinox it's 45k miles so she should have done this twice. Biggest problems for vehicles in this era is that people buy cars they can't afford and don't do oil changes, filter changes, etc. and vehicle inspections. Oil levels used to be checked at every fill up but now are routinely run dry until engine failure.
I sold my with 200K miles. No issues
I had a 2019 Kia Forte before some drunk lady hit my car and it was totaled out by the insurance company. I had the car from Winter 2018 to Spring 2021 and I never had any problems with the transmission. I actually loved that car more than the 2021 Kia Forte I got to replace it. I'm at 30,000+ miles with the 2021 model and no issues with this one yet. I want a new Kia Telluride, but I probably won't be buying anymore Kias, I guess.
Kia is fine, the Telluride is awesome!
@@makaylaserniotti1474Kia is horrible, alongside Hyundai. Kia stands for Killed In Action
Had a 2012 ford focus, after about 2 1/2 months the transmission started wearing out to where when I would stop on a hill, the car would roll back, got the breaks replaced, still was happening, then found out it was a common transmission issue with the focuses, immediately traded it in for a 2015 Corolla, still have it, 216,419 miles no issues
My Nissan CVT gearbox went. The cost to replace it was prohibitive. My friend's mum's Nissan (brand new) went through two CVT gearboxes in the first year and she then handed the car back. Since Renaul bought Nissan they have gone from one of the the most reliant cars to somewhere near the bottom - so many Nissan models have major transmission problems
I purchased a Used 2011 Nissan Rogue from carmax back in 2012. It was used as a rental and had about 38,000 miles. Drove it for 3 years (mostly highway miles) and the CVT Transmission started acting up around 73,000 miles.
Took it back to Carmax in 2015 and they bought it back. When I found out later about these CVT's, I'm glad I got rid of it before the transmission failed...
You drove it to 73k miles and didn’t think about changing the transmission fluid? That’s literally the number one reason why all cvt’s fail.
It’s harder to find a vehicle that doesn’t use the DREADED CVT(constant velocity transmission) as there aren’t too many. I just don’t think a CVT designed for scooters and go karts belongs in a any much heavier vehicle that will be required to run at interstate speeds.
So which kind of automatic transmission is a good choice out of AMT, CVT, Torque Converter, and DCT? Which one specifically for good mileage and which one for a balance of mileage and performance?
My Dad always tried to get a manual transmission in a vehicle. He felt automatic transmissions were “shiftless”just like his kids.
Lol 😂🤣🤗🙋
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Good luck even finding a manual trans now.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@kennethward4985 I have a 2014 nissan versa manual 5 speed and its junk as well. I had to buy a new one out of Quebec Canada
This video finally convinced me that manuals really are the best! Its better to shift manually than not shift at all!
I do not know how to drive a manual and I do not know anyone who would teach because they do not know either. 😢
Agree I d have a manual transmission if I could find one on a vehicle I liked ,but there rarer than Hens teeth.🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
I have a manual in my Fiat 500 and besides being fun to drive, it's the best anti-thief device ever.
I worked in new and used auto parts supplier for 3yrs, and we sold 3 times more used nissan cvt transmissions versus any other model
My 2015 civic LX has 130k on its CVT and I change the trans fluid every 30k basic drain and fill and it still runs like a champ
I worked for a Kia dealership from 2003 to 2005 (as a technician. The most common repair on every model was replacing the automatic transmission. There were air cleaners that we didn't replace enough to keep in stock, but we always had 2 or 3 transmissions in stock for each model. I have never replaced, or seen being replaced, so many automatic thansmissions being replaced in my life, and never un such new cars with such low mileage.
I would be very surprised if KIAhas learned to build an automatic transmission, or a wiring harness for that matter, since then.
But they did stand behind those crappy transmissions … Gotta give them credit for that.
@@sking2173 Yeah, they did, but it wasn't much comfort to the customers who went through 3 of them before they got one that lasted.I( saw that happen a couple of times while at that dealership (fortunately, it didn't happen on any of my repair orders.).
@@douglaspage2398 - Kia’s not the first to have these problems. Back in the 70’s, Honda’s automatics we’re junk. In the 80’s, GM’s FWD 125 and 440 transmissions were garbage. Ford’s DCT used in the Focus was a disaster.
Point being, Kia’s not alone, here.
Kia has serious engine problems as well.
@@anneweller1412 actually, I didn't have to do a lot of engine work, mostly wiring ( KIAs were the worst) driveability related electronics. The Óptimas had a design flaw (not enough lateral support) that made the windows pop out if the tracks rediculously soon.
I can vouch for the 2012 focus. The transmission on ours was replaced 4 times in about 5 years. Finally got rid of that junker! 🙌
Similar issues with my 2013 Focus.
Yes. I have a 2013 ford focus and I had to get mines replaced once so far. SMH
Same with my 2019 gm Tahoe
Same here 14 focus twice in 2 years
2018 focus as well
I have true 1998 Nissan Altima with 218000 stills has the same transmission.I bought a remote starter to warm it up before driving it below 60drees that’s the only issue it wont engage when it is cold.Once it warms up it drives very smoothly
I would add the 2016 Jeep Grand. I leased one and I was in the dealership at least 7 times for transmission issues, always "just a computer issue or valve"
fiesta and focus used the same automatic dual clutch transmission, the biggest and only real issues were shudder from the dual clutch around corners and on acceleration, pcm reprogramming usually fixed the issue, and if not the clutch assembly had to be replaced along with the shift solenoids. The manual transmission were the best solution to avoid those problems.
Yep..same as vw dsg
that means manual gear is no problem?
Surprised at the problems have with the Nissan brand . For so many years they were very reliable affordable cars . I was shocked to find out that the Infiniti QX-60 had transmission issues after I had bought a very clean example of a 2017 several years ago . I’ve researched and haven’t found any issues with the 17 model but I will most definitely be watchful of putting faith in a name in the future
If Nissan has problems with their transmission, obviously its luxury brand will be affected as well. Just like Ford having massive issues with the latests Expedition, the Navigator, which shares almost every part of the Expedition, suffers from those same issues.
@@JoseDiaz-qw7mg R&D seems to be an issue with every manufacturer from time to time . Although not as much with Toyota , they still drop the ball from time to time
When Nissan announced 10 or so years ago that they were going to throw CVT's (Continuously Variable Transmissions) into their entire line, I KNEW they were headed for disasters! When nobody else is using CVT's in their cars, AND the CVT has been around for decades (new technology it ain't!), you have to ask yourself: "Do you feel lucky, Punk?"
CVT's are primarily used in Japanese cars in the Kei Class; that is, tiny little urban fartboxes that are restricted by Japanese law to be 1.5m or less in length, & have a maximum engine displacement of just 660cc. As well, they're a popular choice in motor scooters; which tend to have engine displacements far smaller than that. In those applications, where engines put out a maximum of around 50-75HP & the CVT isn't pulling around anything much heavier than half a tonne, this tranny technology is tried & true & works great. But it's basically a form of belt-drive fed from pulleys of (continuously, hence the name...) varying diameter. For strength, the belt is actually made with metal!
The problem with CVT's is that their technology doesn't "scale up" very well; again, a fact well known to Automotive Engineers for decades. ESPECIALLY Japanese ones!
Nissan is a tremendously innovative company; for example, they pioneered the used of VVT in the late 80's, starting with the 300ZX sports car & quickly transitioning to the Maxima...transforming a sedate 160HP 3.0 Litre V6 into first a 190HP, then 220HP monster! Only then did Honda copy them when they saw that Nissan had made it work reliably, & slapped the "VTEC" monicker onto Nissan's work & continue to fool people into thinking that Honda figured it out all by themselves!🤨🙄
When Nissan announced that they were going to go whole hog with CVT's mated to 250HP engines & 2 ton trucks, I expected to (at least eventually😴) hear something about what particular engineering breakthrough they'd innovated to make reliable operation & long-term durability possible.
Instead, crickets...🤔🧐
Nissan's other modus operandi is to make flimsy cars that are so well put together that as long as you maintain them PROPERLY & follow the instructions in the owners manuals to the letter, & don't otherwise abuse them, they are (were!🤧) as reliable as Hondas & Toyotas. So you combine a car assembled with cheap'n'cheerful parts mostly made in the cheapest of labour 2nd & 3rd world countries with a transmission technology known for its flimsiness, you get the worst of all possible worlds!
My next prediction, which I also see coming through as their JD Powers rating are already dropping for the very same reason, is that Honda engines are going to take a severe hit to their impeccable reputations due to Honda's equally unwise decision to follow the American RETARDS at GARBAGE MACHINE & FOUND ON ROAD DEAD, to switch to tiny tin-pot engines mated to Monster-boost turbochargers in order to boost the EPA MPG ratings on their tub'o'lard SUV/Mobile Homes by 5 or 10%; because that's all you're going to get. Besides premature engine failures due to the inevitable
I’m on my third transmission with a Nissan Sentra cvt.the first went at 54000km.and covered under warranty.the second cvt went at 160,000km.and not covered under warranty.2015 Nissan.
I just hit 104,000 in my manual 2013 Fiesta. Zero major issues. So glad I didn't get the automatic.
I had a Ford Fiesta ( automatic) and the transmission broke 1000 miles out of warranty. The dealer was never able to repair it and ended up installing a used one. The only other car I ever had a transmission problem with was a Datsun, so it seems that hasn't changed.
Datsun B210 AND Rusting OUT Floor Boards .
I would suggest any car with a stick shift is going to eliminate 91% of serious problems. If you can find one.
NISSAN used to be DATSUN!
CVT is common on this list and like someone said below CVT is for same speed not constant stop and go
What about Subaru, they have tons of problems with the CVT transmission on the XV FORESTER and the OUTBACK they have been through many lawsuits in many countries, the problems are from 2012-18 but I'm not sure they have solved the problem yet.
That's really great 👍 information, Colonel Jamal from dubai
I was told by a Hertz maintenance manager that CVT transmissions need fluid changes every 40,000 miles, or every 30,000 miles under severe service conditions. Recommended that the CVT fluids be changed at a dealership, and that you keep your service records in a safe place in case you need to claim it against any warranty.... Hyundai/Kia and Nissan especially.... despite the fact that these manufacturers say that the CVT transmission fluid is LIFETIME. Its a complete lie!
Fluid is usually always the issue and consumers know no better because the dealer and the manufacturer tend to claim it's lifetime fluid.
I had a 2007 Ford Freestyle with a CVT. One of the technicians at the Ford dealer told me they were seeing some issues with them before 75,000 miles. He also told me to change the fluid every 60,000 miles, so I did. Made it to 180,000 miles with no issues.
Thanks 😊 🙏.
People don't like good advice, they rather listen to the gimmicks, and roll with it. I only buy used vehicles, cause I hate GDI vehicles, and any vehicle I buy, I change the fluids, spark plugs and ignition coils, the battery if it's over two years old, the lights, change the brakes and rotors, if needed, get the charging system checked under a load test, and check the tires out, just to be safe. I know people are going to say why didn't I do that before I got the vehicle, and my answer to that is that is I don't trust people words to much, especially if it's a new vehicle I'm about to own. People lie too much, or they put cheap parts on just to sell a vehicle. Does that make more sense, since I work on my own vehicles?
@@curtiswilson4737 Trust me, I get what you're saying, as I've wrenched on my on vehicles my whole life. Partly because I know how, have tools and trust my work. Partly to save money. Only Airbag recall issues were performed at a dealer. That said, I believe your replacement list is a bit overkill. If the vehicle is good upon inspection, why replace known good parts?
These have been my observations as well. I had one coworker whose Chevy SUV had numerous catastrophic failures, the engine failed twice. Another used to show up at work in tears because the repairs and parts for her Nissan were so expensive, even the parts.
If you buy a car with a CVT transmission you are asking for trouble, ask any person who fixes transmissions, I had a new 2014 Outlander and I got nine years out of it before I had to get the transmission fixed, it cost $6000 AU to repair and the people that fixed it told me that CVT transmissions are in the shop all the time getting fixed, he said to stay away from any car with a CVT.
Waw very nice, please toyota rav 4 2005 model and Nissan murano 2004 model which is the best and also which of these has less fuel consumption