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Good review... You will find as you get older you will want less and less weight on your hips. Now in my 60's, still doing trim and also building custom cabinets.. I'm a tote guy for sure! All I carry is a small belt pouch that carries my tape, pencils, knife and punches. And a separate occidental hammer loop with a 10oz stiletto. Had low back problems in my 40's that all stopped once I quit lugging all that around.
Just about to pull the trigger on this belt in the UK. As I'm a left handed carpenter living here my choices are limited.. So glad I watched your detailed review.. thank you for taking the time to make this video.. much appreciated
I am a Suspenders Guy and that's why I ended up with the Occidental Leather Suspenders Set Up. I went through three different suspender setups before finding Occidental. And I couldn't be happier with it. I really like that there isn't a belt and it works the same in a Tshirt or over a jacket. Great Video 👍
Interesting. I made the opposite move almost 20 years ago when I destroyed a set of Occy's inside of 2 years and bought a set of Diamondback's. They cost about a week's wages at the time but considering they are still going strong after such a long and torturous service life I would say they were a bargain. Also...speed square goes on the opposite side from your marking hand :) Great channel. One of the best representations of the trade on RUclips. Keep it up.
Happy Holidays. I am a handyman in the trades for 40 years and I just wanted to thank you I picked up those titan pry bars on your reco and they are amazing great buy and the price is very affordable. Love your videos. Not only are you talented but very neat and clean a great trait for a tradesman. I have learned much from watching. Keep em coming.
Tip: after 30 + years in the business, I don't wear a belt unless I am climbing a ladder or out in the field going everywhere. I worked on mega yachts and couldn't afford the damage that a belt full of tools could do to finished materials. You are generally confined to smaller areas. Use a properly outfitted rolling stack of boxes to hold the items that you are using, your body will thank you in the years to come. Just another perspective. I enjoy your videos and that is why I subscribed.
Im with you on that, tool belts get in my way more often than not and the scratches that can happen on finished oak which i do a lot with is not worth it, get a proper pair of work trousers with pockets and have your tool box on a trolley job done for me
I can appreciate multiple perspectives and overall wear and tear but I really feel there is a time and a place for a tool belt. Maybe not finish but certain types of carpentry require a belt and some kind of bags to be efficient. It's something I drill into young guys because I hate seeing a young guy chasing his tools around a job, or worse yet asking if they can use the tools in my bags. In fact, no matter what age or skillset, quit asking me for my tools because you either don't carry yours or misplaced it on the jobsite..... Killing me smalls
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Perfect timing for this video. I install doors and am just now getting set up with a tool belt. I appreciate you detailing your workflow to explain tool positions.
Know what you like, is so true. I bounce between handyman/ amateur carpenter/ low voltage-sat tv installer. I run occidental low voltage rig for sat and telecom trim work. Atlas46 Saratoga vest for rough in work. I LOVE this vest, but in the summer it IS HOT!!!. Occidental bags w/ Atlas46 suspender as my handyman rig, with klein back pack as secondary tool storage. Still trying to shoe horn the 10" table saw and Makita 18 volt family of tools in both!! Never seems to be enough room. Thank you for all you do for your community. Local and Long Distance.
Well, I guess you DID make a comparison video! Thanks! Again, great vid. You must be very good at your trade.....your comment about setting your nails to the painters listening is priceless. Good for you to keep the trades at a high level, Sir.
As usual, it was a great video. I've experimented with Occidental rigs (I've purchased 2 of them, a framer and a finish model, both in leather) and I find that their pockets and dividers are not very functional. I've been self employed in the trade for about 30 years, and I do some framing, quite a bit of drywall, flooring and finish work, as most of my income comes from remodels. I've settled on the Custom Leathercraft 10 pocket bags and the Occidental suspenders for about 17 years now, and I'm on my second set of bags. I'll probably retire in about 3 years (I'm 63) and my second set should last me till that time. Your videos are informative, you seem to put a lot of thought into each, and every time I come to your site, I generally learn something new. My only suggestion to you is carry a few folded up paper towels in your bags so that you don't smear glue and putty all over your right side bag.
Thanks, I had to train myself to wipe glue on my bags because I used to always wipe it on my pants. You should see the glue build up I'd get on my pants. I agree, the pockets are not my favorite on the OL but I do like some aspects of their pocket configuration a lot.
I really enjoy your videos. I'm a finish carpenter apprentice and I've been in construction for nearly 10 years in other fields. Trim is a different animal but I enjoy the challenges. I'm not production through, I'm with a remodel company so the job is sometimes too varied and I don't get to do as much carpentry as I'd like
I do a lot of cabinetry. As a rule of thumb I never wear my big occidental belt for cabinetry. I use a small belt pouch that holds a pencil, knife and tape measure. I usually bring around a bucket of tools to each room and leave them there till I'm finished that room. I would probably do the same thing you do if I were in a bear house that isn't finished. I love their belts. Great for rough carpentry.
Occi Lite nylon with a modified occidental 5500 Electricians pouch for my trim set up on my dominant side. plenty of places for knives and scribes and pencils. just cut off the clip etc... and also got the lambs wool hip huggers for it. Other side is double pouch then a few clip pouches for when I need a grip of screws etc. attach hammer holder onto back side pouch with threaded posts out of the way Rivet magnets at access places for quick tip changes. Screw gun holster also is on there. usually lighten load depending on day..
Thank goodness I haven't worn a tool belt in more than 15 years!!!!! The only time I ever dropped the thing was on break or going to lunch. Life is much better without one!! By the way, I'm a carpenter with almost 40 years experience and counting. A speed square in the back pocket, a tape at my side, and a pencil on my ear is what I use. Everything else goes close by. Having said that, I have no problem with anyone wearing a tool belt at all. I have a very comfortable US military cotton setup, suspenders and all. Still carry it in the truck.
Spencer I really like my Buckaroo Trim belt I made! Wow it’s ridiculously comfortable! However thing want to occasionally take a dive outta it? Especially my two flat bars! So I discovered if you take those tiny bungee cords drill a little hole for the hook and bring it over your “ escape artist item; like your stud finder! Wa-la your hv a hold down that easily moves aside when you need it but prevents the escape!!!!!
Great choice I've had my Occidental belt rough framer for over 6 years now and still in great condition also they make the tool belts for left and right handers and the framer tool belt has a nice leather pocket for your knife
I've been wearing the Oxy adjust to fit finisher for about 7 months now and I love it. Probably the most comfortable belt I've personally ever worn. It took me a bit to get everything where I wanted it, and honestly I'm always kinda figuring out new layouts for stuff. I used a nail punch to stretch the leather pockets out a little, now everything slips in and out pretty good.
I am also a finish guy and I use the same rig for the same reasons. When I was looking for a new set up I noticed the short comings of the right hand bag. I deleted the right bag and replaced it with Occidentals stronghold bag. Although it is a little heavier there is a good spot for everything I carry and then some. Good overview.
Lol just ordered a finisher set and thought id look up some videos. Very informative, man. You and i carry different stuff and that stud finder is huge!!! I just carry a studbuddy magnetic one that does me wonders
I have these bags and use them for everything since it’s light and small quick. I’m not trying to vary everything. I think mine is a tad different. I think they fixed most of your issues.
Ok I've watched alot of your videos, and retired from being a Finish carpenter but still have a few side jobs that I do for a friend's house, so I bought a new Stud finder, yes. Franklin, only because I seen you use it so. Thanks for your videos. 👍
Richard red bars are superior to the titan bars, and usually cheaper as well. They are thinner where necessary and stronger as well. As a finish carpenter in the remodeling industry, I would say my Richard bar is my most used tool, with my little makita dustbuster a close second lol. Ps, keep up the stellar work. Greetings from Manitoba Canada, eh!
Toolbelts and what's in them are a carpenter's #1 money making/ time saving set up. I always wear mine. I am too cheap to buy an expensive one because I do all types of construction, as you stated in the video. I go through one every year or so. I don't know if an expensive one would last much longer.
The more expensive ones are definitely a lot more durable in my experience, but if you don't like the belt your out a lot of coin. The finisher I have in the video is a nice balance at $200 price point. Not bad.
The Leather Occidental Trim carpenters setup is quite nice. It does not have all the tool holders, but sticks out to the side much less than the nylon setup. Only issue I have with the leather trim set is that the fastener bag does not have a spot for a speed square. I have a 20 year old occi set of the green nylon 7 bag setup, it is excellent. Those nylon sets also hugged tighter to your body and did not stick out as far as the current nylon sets. Tried the Diamondback Artisan setup for a couple months and did not like them. Mostly the same issues that you note, also not a fan of the pouches meant for nails and screws. Nice video.
I have the same rig. Like you say, it's not perfect but to me it's about best out there for a trim carpenter. Believe it or not, years ago I had one made by Stanley that was about perfect to me. It was a sad day when it just would not hold up any more after about 12 years of daily use.
As a lefty carp, I'm constantly reaching across myself for a tool because I have not yet found the right bag (or left really) that has the pockets correctly laid out for my twisted brain.
Pretty much all of the tools you have chosen are the same that I have found the most helpful, and high functioning, over my 24 years in general contracting. That franklin stud finder is awesome. Check out the olfa LA-X utility knife. Its a painters blade, but the snap off blades are handy during the work day, and the small “prybar” at the end is undesirably useful.
Great well done video. I have the same belt and additionally a leather 5080 Pro Framer I purchased first. The Finisher is much lighter & actually holds more gear with a better tool layout. I wish I had of seen your vid before my purchase. I would have pulled the trigger quicker and got the Finisher alone. Best all around.
I have used the Blaklader vest going on 20 years even before they came to the U.S. cuz I have zero butt, thus have to wear suspenders with any tool belt. I love um, cant work without it on. They also have a kilt version as well, but I don't have the legs to pull it off.
I’m a finish carpenter as well. I’ve always hated tool belts because they are never right for my needs. I recently got a Gator back belt that’s comfortable and has enough pockets for the important stuff in the right places. Like you I use a tote for tools that I need on the job not on me.
Great videos. Even though I've been a Carpenter a little over 50 years I am very impressed with your videos. You have taught me a lot of new tricks and tips. Made the switch from Coping Saw to Jig Saw based on your tutorial. Thanks. Nail Bags: I've tried many with varying results. In 1992 I ran across an ad in Fine Homebuiding Magazine for a nail bag made out of Cordura by a new company called "Nailers ". I'm a Leather nail bag kind of guy but I called and spoke with the Lady that was making the new Cordura bads. I ordered my new set of NAILERS and never looked back. I've been wearing the same bags since 1992 with no failures, no problems. NAILERS bags are very light weight and durable. Great pocket and pouch design. I don't remember what I paid for them but today's price is u less than $150.00! You might want to check them out when you have a moment. BTW: I am in no way affiliated with the company and only spoke with the owner that one time so many years ago. Thanks again for your awesome videos.
I’ve also had these bags for about five years, but I use the black suspenders. I 180 my flat bar-hook in so I don’t flip it and drop it , same pouch though. Also have a all in one srewdriver next to it. I like where you put your laser, I may have to try that with mine. Those are nice stud finders-I’ve gone through several of them, they eventually act up too much, wish they made them a little smaller.
Spencer, your videos are very helpful and interesting. I am impressed with your confidence, experience and willingness to share. Thank you! From Washington stste.
I know I’m late to the party but I would recommend you buy a delphin Stanley knife. They come with a great sheathe that you can attach to your nail bag at any point or your jeans etc wherever you like
Thanks for the info on your setup... Could you maybe do a video or series on your prep for a job? Everything from leaving your shop up until you make your first cut? Maybe even quoting the job to ordering materials also?...I really appreciate all the info you provide!
Hammer Holster UPGRADE: surgical tubing ( the kind used to make wrist rockets) sliced open on one side can be wrapped around the metal ring that holds the hammer and wrapped in electrical tape... NO MORE RATTLE when you walk!
I wish I could wear a belt like that. Working mostly in remodeling and often maneuvering tight spaces I limit myself to a single sided pouch that can keep the essentials and that's about it (similar to Richard from Finish Carpentry TV).
Love the vids. You can make yourself a custom holster for almost anything out of kydex. A bit of bake time and some foam sandwiched in a press and nothing will ever fall out of its place ever again
I’ve never owned a diamond back so that’s interesting about the back support aspect. For years I used various tool belts and I just found that I’d end the day with a sore back so I eventually switched to vests and suspender systems. As a trim carpenter my first priority is to be able to hold a heavy 15 gauge cordless nail gun when I am on scaffolding so that my hands are free. I switched to vests and the best I have come up with so far is an accidental suspend a vest I think they’re called because on one side I can hook the gun or a bow of the strap and it distributes the weight more towards my chest. I don’t worry that the gun is going to fall on someone’s floor or fall on someone when I’m up in the air and my tools are close to my body without having a belt tight around my waist. Actually on my rig I cut all the straps that hold the vest together in the center so I can slip it on and slip it off without any straps and all the weight is on my shoulders. But like you I am baffled when I see people caring so many tools around on their waist. I guess if I was working outdoors and I had to be on roofs or working around muddy gravel or uneven terrain I would have to wear a rig like that, but because I work in homes I get most of the weight off me and onto a tool cart and I grab what I need for the task at hand so that I’m not getting fatigued. Having my tools on a rolling cart also means I can go into a job and I don’t have to go back to the van repeatedly to get something else. Keep up the good work you’re distributing some great information.
So I've been thinking on this since you posted and one of the big considerations for a long-time belt is the Gut to Butt ratio. Not a big deal when one is young, but when the back-40 shrinks and the front porch expands then some consideration needs to be given to the belt-strap itself. Some padding on the inside to keep it from grinding down your hip bones is an asset makers should really address.
Haha. I'm with the ya. The 30's dad bod is coming on strong and the reality that the glory days are over is setting in quickly. I work hard, but I like food. lol
I'm sure the last thing you want to do is buy another set of bags but the akribis looks like it would work great for your right side. The hammer sheath and metal hammer loop would work great for your mallet and hammer.
11:25 , interesting you carry biscuits in your bags, I know Perkins Builder Bros always carry hot sauce in theirs. Maybe you could do a collab with them, sounds delicious!
once i got older i slimmed it down to one soft leather bag with 3 pockets with a tape holster on it and a hammer hoop made do with that and if i needed more gear i would gat a small pail and use it as a caddie for that particular job but for most basic trim and door hanging one was enough for the last 10 years or so when your over 50 the weight matters lol
I have to say I have the same problem with the diamondback 6 inch belt. It's very frustrating. Especially when you consider the price for these rigs and they claim their belts are superior. The bags are great but I'm searching for a new belt to mount the on. Great review!
Being in my early 50s now I have abandoned the tool belt unless I am working off a ladder. It's just too much on my back now and I keep an open top, multi pouch tool bag at my side.
I have 3 diamond back rigs now and 2 oxy that sit in the garage. The DB is my go to because I swap bags based on what I’m doing. I didn’t like how oxy didn’t have that ability for me at the time
First view! I love your channel and work. I am really just starting in finish carpentry and your content here and on instagram has been so helpful. Thank you and keep grindin'!
Very cool man look I’m a young finish carpenter well not young I’m the same age as you but I’m writing this post cuz I’m saw you describe the the black hard case as something but it a chisel case i have the adjust -to- fit set up and it will Be the last pre of bags I’ll ever own anyways I started watching you a couple years ago and man let me tell you I’ve modeled most my game after you now I’m no follower but I do demand excellence outa my work so you made the right choice I have the adjust -]to -fit occidental converted into a right handed trim carpenter rigging and omg man it’s just so happy please keep making these videos hours from SEATTLE WA
Have you looked into badger tool belts? They are tied in with occidental. They have smaller shorter setups. I definitely like the hammer sleeve they diamondback and badger has
I’m a form worker and love my occidental I’ve went through side pouches within every 6 months and once I got my occidental almost 2 years ago and well enough said.. you get used to the weight and the belt forms to your body
I’ve had the occidental pro carpenter bags for about 10 years I really like them but I’m a suspender guy I’m 6ft4 with no butt I need the help holding them up lol great info thanks
We must be kin. I'm 6 4 also. I'm considering butt implants......just to keep my pants and tool bags up :) I do a good mix of finish and rough Carpentry. I have adjust to fit frames for rough work and adjust to fit finished for finish work. I swap my Occidental suspenders back and forth depending on which bags I need that day. I wish Occidental would make a carpenter's "badonkadonk". I would prefer to retire the suspenders.
Good video. Thanks. I wonder if gluing a magnet on the stud finder and gluing one to the bag to keep the stud finder from falling out would interfere with the stud finder function. That is what I did to my utility knife and plastic case but haven’t tried it on a stud finder. I keep my Bosch laser tape in an open nylon sheath that is glued into the bag to make removal easier. Am thinking of getting a new laser tape... if I do I’ll be sure to use your link. Thanks Ron
As a finisher I run the Bucket Boss ballistic rig myself. Price is great, and plenty of small compartments you speak of that your ocy is missing. Light weight and has a nice wide waist belt. I also ditched the suspenders.
Thanks for the video. I really enjoy looking for the perfect tool belt. I know it won’t happen. I have the Occidental Leather pro framer. I have been looking at the Diamondback Artisan. Have you looked into that one? If so, another video reviewing that would be awesome. Thanks for al your educational videos. I really enjoy them.
I watched your video on the diamondback a while ago. I was surprised at the huge size of it. Especially in finished homes its risky to be walking around with huge belts.
From what I see, many finish carpenters are switching to vests, and naturally companies are going to try and cater to that, leaving bags for rough carpenters. That’s a bummer because I tried the snickers vest, and although it was easier on my hips, it just didn’t flow well for me. The loose pockets and dropping a tape down into a deep pocket and fishing it out was terrible. I’ve since switched back to my modified occidental green nylon framers. I understand vests/ euro style pocket pants for cabinets, but production finish carpenters need something tough, with pockets suited for us.
Just like Brent said , iam also was around Delicate stuff., I travel pretty lite. I keep a Utility cart with everything on it, there to many things to get into on a daily basis.
Clicked cause I saw the stud finder. That's the best affordable one I've ever found. I dread the day mine dies because they no longer carry them anywhere local.
Diamondback does do field testing and ask for a lot of feedback on social media, They make much more compact sets and have much smaller belts available... much more compact than the occidental set he choose. He is comparing a larger size of diamondback to a fairly small size of occidental. Diamondback has the biggest range I’ve seen from super compact “punch list” setups all the way huge rigs and bolt bags.
fotopdo that’s true but his main problem was the belt not fitting which is a huge annoyance. It took me like two months to figure out how to wear mine comfortably. I like diamondbacks but I think they do a terrible job explaining how to wear and adjust them.
@@loganpatterson4674 He also said he had a large belt, he doesn't look to me like he should be wearing a large belt. I wear 31 pants size and the small DB belt is what i got and it would fit this guy imo. With a smaller belt he could made it tighter and then it might of stayed up on his waist, idk i could be wrong just my observation.
I do a lot of cabinet work and you have to be very careful with a belt full of tools scratching doors and finished panels. I end up just filling my pockets full of tools and screws. My wife loves all the treasures she finds in the washer/dryer hahaha
@@BrentDarlington a few years ago I used a vest for a while. I think it was from Duluth trading, maybe. Every time I bent over tools fell out of the pockets
Spencer, check out the Hart professional 9 led stud finder. Walmart.com sells it for $26. They're not on Amazon. Almost identical look-wise to the Franklin which I agree is the best stud finder out there. I bought a couple Hart's to give them a test drive, but have to take them out of the package. Downside of the Franklin's is that they're a little fragile and the push button seems to fail on them way too quickly. Just some food for thought.
Try suspenders on your pants to keep them from dropping and no pants belt for the tool belt to snag on. There will be less obstruction around your waist for the tool belt to sit more comfortably.
I used the occidental adjust to fit comfort series pro framers for years... But i upgraded to the diamondback grrandes recently. Its perfect for me 👌. And it sounds like you had too large of a belt on yer diamondbacks, they have ultimate adjustability if your belt pad is sized correctly...
I use the occidental finisher every day, great bags, also bought the diamondback hammer holster and stitched it on under the right pouch, I’ve always hated hammer loops so it works great for me. Would recommend these bags to anyone, I use suspenders though as I usually have a fair weight in my bags all day with the things I carry like nail guns and such
Man I've cut apart and then stitched/ riveted together so many different configurations over the years, and the search still continues! Currently running a hybrid vest and pouch combo... I wonder if Diamondback would work with you to create a better trim carpenters set up? I think they did some special pouches for Kyle at RR Buildings.
I think they knew they needed an offering for trim guys but I feel like they rushed the design to get something in production too quickly. What they have now definitely doesn't trip my trigger. Too bad, because they are a great company. I'd love to see them come up with something better.
@@InsiderCarpentry Yup and hopefully they will. Did you use their hammer sheath on your last set up and if so did you like it? Thats one thing I've wanted to try from Diamondback...
Surprised you didn’t go to the Dback Artisan or Raptor? I bought an Artisan but was too small for when I do more remodel work and so went to the Raptor. It’s still lean enough to scale down for doing trim and cabinetry but also large enough to set up for demo, framing or drywall.
I have a OL setup framing left bag and a drywall utility style right bag. I usually use it for TI projects and its pretty versatile for everything. It also has a knife holster. I sometimes switch to a cheap short apron depending on the project, but aprons are awful for leaning on your knees (everything will fall out).
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1/8" Punch - geni.us/FgCq(Essential for popping hinge pins and driving 15 gauge nails through when removing trim)
Good review... You will find as you get older you will want less and less weight on your hips. Now in my 60's, still doing trim and also building custom cabinets.. I'm a tote guy for sure! All I carry is a small belt pouch that carries my tape, pencils, knife and punches. And a separate occidental hammer loop with a 10oz stiletto. Had low back problems in my 40's that all stopped once I quit lugging all that around.
Just about to pull the trigger on this belt in the UK. As I'm a left handed carpenter living here my choices are limited.. So glad I watched your detailed review.. thank you for taking the time to make this video.. much appreciated
I am a Suspenders Guy and that's why I ended up with the Occidental Leather Suspenders Set Up. I went through three different suspender setups before finding Occidental. And I couldn't be happier with it. I really like that there isn't a belt and it works the same in a Tshirt or over a jacket. Great Video 👍
Interesting. I made the opposite move almost 20 years ago when I destroyed a set of Occy's inside of 2 years and bought a set of Diamondback's. They cost about a week's wages at the time but considering they are still going strong after such a long and torturous service life I would say they were a bargain.
Also...speed square goes on the opposite side from your marking hand :)
Great channel. One of the best representations of the trade on RUclips. Keep it up.
Happy Holidays. I am a handyman in the trades for 40 years and I just wanted to thank you I picked up those titan pry bars on your reco and they are amazing great buy and the price is very affordable. Love your videos. Not only are you talented but very neat and clean a great trait for a tradesman. I have learned much from watching. Keep em coming.
Tip: after 30 + years in the business, I don't wear a belt unless I am climbing a ladder or out in the field going everywhere. I worked on mega yachts and couldn't afford the damage that a belt full of tools could do to finished materials. You are generally confined to smaller areas. Use a properly outfitted rolling stack of boxes to hold the items that you are using, your body will thank you in the years to come. Just another perspective. I enjoy your videos and that is why I subscribed.
I'm an overalls and carhartt pouch guy. At the end of the day my pants are clean and the pouch comes off quickly for trips to the potty. :-)
Im with you on that, tool belts get in my way more often than not and the scratches that can happen on finished oak which i do a lot with is not worth it, get a proper pair of work trousers with pockets and have your tool box on a trolley job done for me
I can appreciate multiple perspectives and overall wear and tear but I really feel there is a time and a place for a tool belt. Maybe not finish but certain types of carpentry require a belt and some kind of bags to be efficient. It's something I drill into young guys because I hate seeing a young guy chasing his tools around a job, or worse yet asking if they can use the tools in my bags. In fact, no matter what age or skillset, quit asking me for my tools because you either don't carry yours or misplaced it on the jobsite..... Killing me smalls
Perfect timing for this video. I install doors and am just now getting set up with a tool belt. I appreciate you detailing your workflow to explain tool positions.
Been using occidental for 35 years. They are the best!
Know what you like, is so true. I bounce between handyman/ amateur carpenter/ low voltage-sat tv installer. I run occidental low voltage rig for sat and telecom trim work. Atlas46 Saratoga vest for rough in work. I LOVE this vest, but in the summer it IS HOT!!!. Occidental bags w/ Atlas46 suspender as my handyman rig, with klein back pack as secondary tool storage. Still trying to shoe horn the 10" table saw and Makita 18 volt family of tools in both!! Never seems to be enough room. Thank you for all you do for your community. Local and Long Distance.
Well, I guess you DID make a comparison video! Thanks! Again, great vid. You must be very good at your trade.....your comment about setting your nails to the painters listening is priceless. Good for you to keep the trades at a high level, Sir.
i just bought my 9525LH a few days ago, stoked for it to arrive!
As usual, it was a great video. I've experimented with Occidental rigs (I've purchased 2 of them, a framer and a finish model, both in leather) and I find that their pockets and dividers are not very functional. I've been self employed in the trade for about 30 years, and I do some framing, quite a bit of drywall, flooring and finish work, as most of my income comes from remodels. I've settled on the Custom Leathercraft 10 pocket bags and the Occidental suspenders for about 17 years now, and I'm on my second set of bags. I'll probably retire in about 3 years (I'm 63) and my second set should last me till that time. Your videos are informative, you seem to put a lot of thought into each, and every time I come to your site, I generally learn something new. My only suggestion to you is carry a few folded up paper towels in your bags so that you don't smear glue and putty all over your right side bag.
Thanks, I had to train myself to wipe glue on my bags because I used to always wipe it on my pants. You should see the glue build up I'd get on my pants. I agree, the pockets are not my favorite on the OL but I do like some aspects of their pocket configuration a lot.
I had those , loved them never had any issues .
Now I rock Diamondback’s joiner set up
I really enjoy your videos. I'm a finish carpenter apprentice and I've been in construction for nearly 10 years in other fields. Trim is a different animal but I enjoy the challenges. I'm not production through, I'm with a remodel company so the job is sometimes too varied and I don't get to do as much carpentry as I'd like
I do a lot of cabinetry. As a rule of thumb I never wear my big occidental belt for cabinetry. I use a small belt pouch that holds a pencil, knife and tape measure. I usually bring around a bucket of tools to each room and leave them there till I'm finished that room. I would probably do the same thing you do if I were in a bear house that isn't finished. I love their belts. Great for rough carpentry.
Occi Lite nylon with a modified occidental 5500 Electricians pouch for my trim set up on my dominant side. plenty of places for knives and scribes and pencils. just cut off the clip etc... and also got the lambs wool hip huggers for it. Other side is double pouch then a few clip pouches for when I need a grip of screws etc.
attach hammer holder onto back side pouch with threaded posts out of the way
Rivet magnets at access places for quick tip changes. Screw gun holster also is on there.
usually lighten load depending on day..
Thank goodness I haven't worn a tool belt in more than 15 years!!!!! The only time I ever dropped the thing was on break or going to lunch. Life is much better without one!! By the way, I'm a carpenter with almost 40 years experience and counting. A speed square in the back pocket, a tape at my side, and a pencil on my ear is what I use. Everything else goes close by. Having said that, I have no problem with anyone wearing a tool belt at all. I have a very comfortable US military cotton setup, suspenders and all. Still carry it in the truck.
Spencer I really like my Buckaroo Trim belt I made! Wow it’s ridiculously comfortable!
However thing want to occasionally take a dive outta it? Especially my two flat bars!
So I discovered if you take those tiny bungee cords drill a little hole for the hook and bring it over your “ escape artist item; like your stud finder!
Wa-la your hv a hold down that easily moves aside when you need it but prevents the escape!!!!!
That's a genius idea!
Great choice I've had my Occidental belt rough framer for over 6 years now and still in great condition also they make the tool belts for left and right handers and the framer tool belt has a nice leather pocket for your knife
I've been wearing the Oxy adjust to fit finisher for about 7 months now and I love it. Probably the most comfortable belt I've personally ever worn. It took me a bit to get everything where I wanted it, and honestly I'm always kinda figuring out new layouts for stuff. I used a nail punch to stretch the leather pockets out a little, now everything slips in and out pretty good.
I use the Occidental leather trim carpenters set. And love them. Thanks for the update on your bags.
I am also a finish guy and I use the same rig for the same reasons. When I was looking for a new set up I noticed the short comings of the right hand bag. I deleted the right bag and replaced it with Occidentals stronghold bag. Although it is a little heavier there is a good spot for everything I carry and then some.
Good overview.
I'll have to check out that bag. Thanks!
Thanks for the recommendation. Ordered it and absolutely best set up I’ve had.
Great to hear!
Lol just ordered a finisher set and thought id look up some videos. Very informative, man. You and i carry different stuff and that stud finder is huge!!! I just carry a studbuddy magnetic one that does me wonders
I switched to an occidental leather tool belt this past summer. I have the all leather version, it is heavy but i am incredibly happy with it.
I have these bags and use them for everything since it’s light and small quick. I’m not trying to vary everything. I think mine is a tad different. I think they fixed most of your issues.
Ok I've watched alot of your videos, and retired from being a Finish carpenter but still have a few side jobs that I do for a friend's house, so I bought a new Stud finder, yes. Franklin, only because I seen you use it so. Thanks for your videos. 👍
Richard red bars are superior to the titan bars, and usually cheaper as well. They are thinner where necessary and stronger as well. As a finish carpenter in the remodeling industry, I would say my Richard bar is my most used tool, with my little makita dustbuster a close second lol. Ps, keep up the stellar work. Greetings from Manitoba Canada, eh!
Toolbelts and what's in them are a carpenter's #1 money making/ time saving set up. I always wear mine. I am too cheap to buy an expensive one because I do all types of construction, as you stated in the video. I go through one every year or so. I don't know if an expensive one would last much longer.
The more expensive ones are definitely a lot more durable in my experience, but if you don't like the belt your out a lot of coin. The finisher I have in the video is a nice balance at $200 price point. Not bad.
I've been wearing my adjust to fit framing rig for 15 years....the nylon version. Best money I've ever spent!
Vest guy here. Just have hard time slapping on a belt and risking paint/trim damage. Plus I have scoliosis and this reduces wear and tear on my spine.
The Leather Occidental Trim carpenters setup is quite nice. It does not have all the tool holders, but sticks out to the side much less than the nylon setup. Only issue I have with the leather trim set is that the fastener bag does not have a spot for a speed square. I have a 20 year old occi set of the green nylon 7 bag setup, it is excellent. Those nylon sets also hugged tighter to your body and did not stick out as far as the current nylon sets. Tried the Diamondback Artisan setup for a couple months and did not like them. Mostly the same issues that you note, also not a fan of the pouches meant for nails and screws. Nice video.
I have the same rig. Like you say, it's not perfect but to me it's about best out there for a trim carpenter. Believe it or not, years ago I had one made by Stanley that was about perfect to me. It was a sad day when it just would not hold up any more after about 12 years of daily use.
Thanks for the video. Tool belt companies seem to forget there are left handed people out there
As a lefty carp, I'm constantly reaching across myself for a tool because I have not yet found the right bag (or left really) that has the pockets correctly laid out for my twisted brain.
nobody cares, :-). my brother is a lefty
Check out Akribis Leather in Canada. ruclips.net/video/DUz4rmI6YkY/видео.html
Had this belt for two years now, use it for framing and finish, great investment 👍🏻
Nice set up! I got my 2nd occidental. One for trim, one for everyday Reno/ framing
Pretty much all of the tools you have chosen are the same that I have found the most helpful, and high functioning, over my 24 years in general contracting. That franklin stud finder is awesome.
Check out the olfa LA-X utility knife. Its a painters blade, but the snap off blades are handy during the work day, and the small “prybar” at the end is undesirably useful.
I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks!
Great well done video. I have the same belt and additionally a leather 5080 Pro Framer I purchased first. The Finisher is much lighter & actually holds more gear with a better tool layout. I wish I had of seen your vid before my purchase. I would have pulled the trigger quicker and got the Finisher alone. Best all around.
I have used the Blaklader vest going on 20 years even before they came to the U.S. cuz I have zero butt, thus have to wear suspenders with any tool belt. I love um, cant work without it on. They also have a kilt version as well, but I don't have the legs to pull it off.
I’m a finish carpenter as well. I’ve always hated tool belts because they are never right for my needs. I recently got a Gator back belt that’s comfortable and has enough pockets for the important stuff in the right places. Like you I use a tote for tools that I need on the job not on me.
Super helpful video that really helped me make the decision to buy this belt. Cheers!
I bought bucket boss suspension rig has plenty of storage, cell pocket, adjustments lightweight, like the feel of wearing it.
All for around 100 $.
Great videos. Even though I've been a Carpenter a little over 50 years I am very impressed with your videos. You have taught me a lot of new tricks and tips. Made the switch from Coping Saw to Jig Saw based on your tutorial. Thanks.
Nail Bags: I've tried many with varying results. In 1992 I ran across an ad in Fine Homebuiding Magazine for a nail bag made out of Cordura by a new company called "Nailers ". I'm a Leather nail bag kind of guy but I called and spoke with the Lady that was making the new Cordura bads. I ordered my new set of NAILERS and never looked back. I've been wearing the same bags since 1992 with no failures, no problems. NAILERS bags are very light weight and durable. Great pocket and pouch design. I don't remember what I paid for them but today's price is u less than $150.00!
You might want to check them out when you have a moment.
BTW: I am in no way affiliated with the company and only spoke with the owner that one time so many years ago.
Thanks again for your awesome videos.
Thanks for the suggestion. Ill definitely check them out. 👊
Hhhhhhhhhhhhhh😊
I’ve also had these bags for about five years, but I use the black suspenders. I 180 my flat bar-hook in so I don’t flip it and drop it , same pouch though. Also have a all in one srewdriver next to it. I like where you put your laser, I may have to try that with mine. Those are nice stud finders-I’ve gone through several of them, they eventually act up too much, wish they made them a little smaller.
Yeah, I have went through several of that stud finder also, but its so good I keep replacing it. Wish they made them more durable.
Spencer, your videos are very helpful and interesting. I am impressed with your confidence, experience and willingness to share. Thank you! From Washington stste.
I know I’m late to the party but I would recommend you buy a delphin Stanley knife. They come with a great sheathe that you can attach to your nail bag at any point or your jeans etc wherever you like
Thanks for the info on your setup... Could you maybe do a video or series on your prep for a job? Everything from leaving your shop up until you make your first cut? Maybe even quoting the job to ordering materials also?...I really appreciate all the info you provide!
Hammer Holster UPGRADE: surgical tubing ( the kind used to make wrist rockets) sliced open on one side can be wrapped around the metal ring that holds the hammer and wrapped in electrical tape... NO MORE RATTLE when you walk!
I wish I could wear a belt like that. Working mostly in remodeling and often maneuvering tight spaces I limit myself to a single sided pouch that can keep the essentials and that's about it (similar to Richard from Finish Carpentry TV).
Love the vids. You can make yourself a custom holster for almost anything out of kydex. A bit of bake time and some foam sandwiched in a press and nothing will ever fall out of its place ever again
I actually have a bunch of kydex in my shop, I just haven't got around to making anything yet.
I’ve never owned a diamond back so that’s interesting about the back support aspect. For years I used various tool belts and I just found that I’d end the day with a sore back so I eventually switched to vests and suspender systems. As a trim carpenter my first priority is to be able to hold a heavy 15 gauge cordless nail gun when I am on scaffolding so that my hands are free. I switched to vests and the best I have come up with so far is an accidental suspend a vest I think they’re called because on one side I can hook the gun or a bow of the strap and it distributes the weight more towards my chest. I don’t worry that the gun is going to fall on someone’s floor or fall on someone when I’m up in the air and my tools are close to my body without having a belt tight around my waist. Actually on my rig I cut all the straps that hold the vest together in the center so I can slip it on and slip it off without any straps and all the weight is on my shoulders. But like you I am baffled when I see people caring so many tools around on their waist. I guess if I was working outdoors and I had to be on roofs or working around muddy gravel or uneven terrain I would have to wear a rig like that, but because I work in homes I get most of the weight off me and onto a tool cart and I grab what I need for the task at hand so that I’m not getting fatigued. Having my tools on a rolling cart also means I can go into a job and I don’t have to go back to the van repeatedly to get something else. Keep up the good work you’re distributing some great information.
Atlas vest wins….
So I've been thinking on this since you posted and one of the big considerations for a long-time belt is the Gut to Butt ratio. Not a big deal when one is young, but when the back-40 shrinks and the front porch expands then some consideration needs to be given to the belt-strap itself. Some padding on the inside to keep it from grinding down your hip bones is an asset makers should really address.
monkeygraborange loose weight if your physically active all day you have no excuse about being fat
It ain't necessarily about being fat. The sands of time don't flow *up* the hourglass.
Haha. I'm with the ya. The 30's dad bod is coming on strong and the reality that the glory days are over is setting in quickly. I work hard, but I like food. lol
Insider Carpentry my fitness pale app and lifting 50 minutes a day basically cures that. Going to the gym sucks but it’s worth it
Occidental make some nice sheepskin belt liners, 👍😁🔨🇮🇪
I'm sure the last thing you want to do is buy another set of bags but the akribis looks like it would work great for your right side. The hammer sheath and metal hammer loop would work great for your mallet and hammer.
11:25 , interesting you carry biscuits in your bags, I know Perkins Builder Bros always carry hot sauce in theirs. Maybe you could do a collab with them, sounds delicious!
I love the plastic knife holder!
once i got older i slimmed it down to one soft leather bag with 3 pockets with a tape holster on it and a hammer hoop made do with that and if i needed more gear i would gat a small pail and use it as a caddie for that particular job but for most basic trim and door hanging one was enough for the last 10 years or so when your over 50 the weight matters lol
I have to say I have the same problem with the diamondback 6 inch belt. It's very frustrating. Especially when you consider the price for these rigs and they claim their belts are superior. The bags are great but I'm searching for a new belt to mount the on. Great review!
Great Info can you please make a video about occidental leather vest
Being in my early 50s now I have abandoned the tool belt unless I am working off a ladder. It's just too much on my back now and I keep an open top, multi pouch tool bag at my side.
I’m a finish guy. I’m a big fan of an old school carhartt nail apron
I have 3 diamond back rigs now and 2 oxy that sit in the garage. The DB is my go to because I swap bags based on what I’m doing. I didn’t like how oxy didn’t have that ability for me at the time
First view! I love your channel and work. I am really just starting in finish carpentry and your content here and on instagram has been so helpful. Thank you and keep grindin'!
Glad to hear its helping. 👍
🍪... for being first!
Very cool man look I’m a young finish carpenter well not young I’m the same age as you but I’m writing this post cuz I’m saw you describe the the black hard case as something but it a chisel case i have the adjust -to- fit set up and it will
Be the last pre of bags I’ll ever own anyways I started watching you a couple years ago and man let me tell you I’ve modeled most my game after you now I’m no follower but I do demand excellence outa my work so you made the right choice I have the adjust -]to
-fit occidental converted into a right handed trim carpenter rigging and omg man it’s just so happy please keep making these videos hours from SEATTLE WA
Have you looked into badger tool belts? They are tied in with occidental. They have smaller shorter setups. I definitely like the hammer sleeve they diamondback and badger has
I use the Husky belt and bag setup. Combine that with a 5 gallon bucket for my big items and I'm good. $40.
Just got these bags to replace the same pair that got stolen. The only difference is I had the vest with the trim bags. I am liking the belt so far.
I’m a form worker and love my occidental I’ve went through side pouches within every 6 months and once I got my occidental almost 2 years ago and well enough said.. you get used to the weight and the belt forms to your body
not sure diamond back is listening. i find them long as well, gonna have to check these out. Nice work on your videos.
I’m occidental too, I use the adjust to fit and I have to have suspenders though, but everyone’s fit is different 💯
I’ve had the occidental pro carpenter bags for about 10 years I really like them but I’m a suspender guy I’m 6ft4 with no butt I need the help holding them up lol great info thanks
We must be kin. I'm 6 4 also. I'm considering butt implants......just to keep my pants and tool bags up :) I do a good mix of finish and rough Carpentry. I have adjust to fit frames for rough work and adjust to fit finished for finish work. I swap my Occidental suspenders back and forth depending on which bags I need that day. I wish Occidental would make a carpenter's "badonkadonk". I would prefer to retire the suspenders.
Thanks. Just ordered one.
I agree with you I hade a DB and I switch to a ox and I am totally in love with my ox nylon much better then DB
Good video. Thanks.
I wonder if gluing a magnet on the stud finder and gluing one to the bag to keep the stud finder from falling out would interfere with the stud finder function. That is what I did to my utility knife and plastic case but haven’t tried it on a stud finder.
I keep my Bosch laser tape in an open nylon sheath that is glued into the bag to make removal easier. Am thinking of getting a new laser tape... if I do I’ll be sure to use your link. Thanks
Ron
As a finisher I run the Bucket Boss ballistic rig myself. Price is great, and plenty of small compartments you speak of that your ocy is missing. Light weight and has a nice wide waist belt. I also ditched the suspenders.
Thanks for the video. I really enjoy looking for the perfect tool belt. I know it won’t happen. I have the Occidental Leather pro framer. I have been looking at the Diamondback Artisan. Have you looked into that one? If so, another video reviewing that would be awesome. Thanks for al your educational videos. I really enjoy them.
Finally some1 like me. Speed square on right! Not left!
I watched your video on the diamondback a while ago. I was surprised at the huge size of it. Especially in finished homes its risky to be walking around with huge belts.
From what I see, many finish carpenters are switching to vests, and naturally companies are going to try and cater to that, leaving bags for rough carpenters. That’s a bummer because I tried the snickers vest, and although it was easier on my hips, it just didn’t flow well for me. The loose pockets and dropping a tape down into a deep pocket and fishing it out was terrible. I’ve since switched back to my modified occidental green nylon framers. I understand vests/ euro style pocket pants for cabinets, but production finish carpenters need something tough, with pockets suited for us.
Just like Brent said , iam also was around Delicate stuff., I travel pretty lite. I keep a Utility cart with everything on it, there to many things to get into on a daily basis.
Bobs Leather, citrus heights, ca.
Had them all, love DB for framing, but Bob's is tiptop
Clicked cause I saw the stud finder. That's the best affordable one I've ever found. I dread the day mine dies because they no longer carry them anywhere local.
Lee Valley carries the Franklin. You can order it online.
Companies should go out and ask guys on the ground. Maybe we can get a perfect belt one day
Diamondback does do field testing and ask for a lot of feedback on social media, They make much more compact sets and have much smaller belts available... much more compact than the occidental set he choose. He is comparing a larger size of diamondback to a fairly small size of occidental. Diamondback has the biggest range I’ve seen from super compact “punch list” setups all the way huge rigs and bolt bags.
fotopdo that’s true but his main problem was the belt not fitting which is a huge annoyance. It took me like two months to figure out how to wear mine comfortably. I like diamondbacks but I think they do a terrible job explaining how to wear and adjust them.
Its ludicrous to think they don't
@@loganpatterson4674 He also said he had a large belt, he doesn't look to me like he should be wearing a large belt. I wear 31 pants size and the small DB belt is what i got and it would fit this guy imo. With a smaller belt he could made it tighter and then it might of stayed up on his waist, idk i could be wrong just my observation.
Checkout badger toolbelts
nice reveiw,and set up of your belt
I do a lot of cabinet work and you have to be very careful with a belt full of tools scratching doors and finished panels. I end up just filling my pockets full of tools and screws. My wife loves all the treasures she finds in the washer/dryer hahaha
@@HBSuccess I've been thinking about a vest but there aren't a ton of options and I don't want to look like a nerd lol
Same
@@BrentDarlington a few years ago I used a vest for a while. I think it was from Duluth trading, maybe. Every time I bent over tools fell out of the pockets
@@timbarry5080 I could see that being an issue. That would drive me crazy so no vest for me
I use my shop apron during cabinet installs and trim jobs
Spencer, check out the Hart professional 9 led stud finder. Walmart.com sells it for $26. They're not on Amazon. Almost identical look-wise to the Franklin which I agree is the best stud finder out there. I bought a couple Hart's to give them a test drive, but have to take them out of the package. Downside of the Franklin's is that they're a little fragile and the push button seems to fail on them way too quickly. Just some food for thought.
Try suspenders on your pants to keep them from dropping and no pants belt for the tool belt to snag on. There will be less obstruction around your waist for the tool belt to sit more comfortably.
I used the occidental adjust to fit comfort series pro framers for years...
But i upgraded to the diamondback grrandes recently. Its perfect for me 👌. And it sounds like you had too large of a belt on yer diamondbacks, they have ultimate adjustability if your belt pad is sized correctly...
Hey you need to check out the Occidental 5520 hammer loop and the Stanley Titan utility knife.
thak you~ im using occi 5080 tool belt. but so heavy. so im buying this tool belt set~
I use the occidental finisher every day, great bags, also bought the diamondback hammer holster and stitched it on under the right pouch, I’ve always hated hammer loops so it works great for me. Would recommend these bags to anyone, I use suspenders though as I usually have a fair weight in my bags all day with the things I carry like nail guns and such
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Man I've cut apart and then stitched/ riveted together so many different configurations over the years, and the search still continues! Currently running a hybrid vest and pouch combo...
I wonder if Diamondback would work with you to create a better trim carpenters set up? I think they did some special pouches for Kyle at RR Buildings.
I think they knew they needed an offering for trim guys but I feel like they rushed the design to get something in production too quickly. What they have now definitely doesn't trip my trigger. Too bad, because they are a great company. I'd love to see them come up with something better.
@@InsiderCarpentry Yup and hopefully they will. Did you use their hammer sheath on your last set up and if so did you like it? Thats one thing I've wanted to try from Diamondback...
@@cliftonobrien588 Yes, its nice. Pretty easy to pull out kneeling or crouching.
Surprised you didn’t go to the Dback Artisan or Raptor? I bought an Artisan but was too small for when I do more remodel work and so went to the Raptor. It’s still lean enough to scale down for doing trim and cabinetry but also large enough to set up for demo, framing or drywall.
Occidental is all I've worn for 20 + years .. I just bought my 2nd set
Where can I find the straight ball end hex wench for bathroom hardware that u showed us on the Diamondbag review video?
Take a look at Badger tool belts and Atlas vests.
Why do you use a speed square in your right hand?
Excellent review!
I have a OL setup framing left bag and a drywall utility style right bag. I usually use it for TI projects and its pretty versatile for everything. It also has a knife holster. I sometimes switch to a cheap short apron depending on the project, but aprons are awful for leaning on your knees (everything will fall out).
Have you had a look at akribis leather fully customisable I haven’t been lucky to get order in yet as stores normally only open for a day
I haven't looked at them super seriously but they look like a great product. I'm sure I could use them and be happy with them.