Amazing Juliana Airport St.Maarten MD-80 Cockpit Video 720p
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Today's video was filmed by our master mechanic on jump-seat JAAN, landing with a heavy 58000kg or 128000lbs in our MADDOG, with a slight crosswind. Enjoy it and a penny for your thoughts..
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Analogue cockpit......like a warm fireplace on a cold winters night.
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I only have eight hours flight time as a student from the 90's. The new glass cockpits look confusing as hell. Too many computers. Give me the old school method. lol
Yep. I had about 5,000 DC-9/30 PIC time in the 80s.. Same cockpit, with 14 feet more fuselage.
Sorry: 5,000 hours.
What a joyful crew and a legend of an aircraft in such a beautiful part of the world. Living the dream lads!
Old cockpits are sexier than newer glass cockpits.....
Did you said cockpit”?
Yes
Why did people dislike this video just having an MD-80 in the video is enough for a like
Totally agree, bonus points for every time you hear the 'Stabilizer Motion' buzzer!!!
Racists.
@@acrobaticcripple8176 Plane isn't a race
My grandpa flew it
@@acrobaticcripple8176 how?
I love the MD-80 layout. The placment of everything is so practical. :)
+Ruben Kelevra its like a modern lawn mower
I just want you to know that atleast 1,000 of those views are mine. I watch this video every day.
you should know that the majority of landings nowadays is still done by the pilots (manual landing). autoland is only applied when it's really needed, e.g. when there's a lot of fog/rain and visibility is very low.
btw Princess Juliana Airport doesn't have ILS, pilots always have to land 'by hand' there. what you see them do right before landing is adjusting the autopilot for a possible go-around
Nice to see the MD-80 cross wind landing at St.Maarten . Not many MD-80 still flying. It was a great airplane in it's generation. There was a very noticeable crosswind during final requiring alot of yoke movement for correction. Very nice landing in spite of the wind by the F/O!
why not crabbing with a constant angle?
The pilot is going crazy with the yoke at final approach! xD
ProNerd YES AT LEAST HE DIDN'TFUCK LIKE AMERICAN A310 THAT CRASHED IN NEW YORK DUE 2 PILOTS OVER CORRECTION ON THE RUDDER 4 WAKE TURBULENCE OF FFKN kal thatJUST DEPARTED!
ProNerd Assume the MD-80 requires a lot of control wheel input when landing SXM with light cross wind.....
Yeah, still awesome how the pilot puts this bird on the ground ;)
Matthew Wells its probably becuase of the control tabs. The yoke on the MD80 does not directly move the control surfaces, they instead move small control tabs on each control surface which then flies the aileron or elevators into position.
However, in the event of a stall the elevators can be powered into the down position hydraulically. This is why you often see split elevator positions of a parked MD80.
It takes allot of input. Your just moving small tabs on the control surfaces which in turn move the larger surface. I don't miss this dinosaur at all. Lovin me some Airbus!!!!
That worn-out yoke at 04:38 shows the plane's age. Good job by the FO nailing the centerline (05:37)
Those were the days, I'd give anything to fly a pilots aeroplane like that. I fly the 737 now, most pilots would freak out on a visual approach like that. Everything is flown LNAV VNAV now, if its visual, build it in the box or fly an RNP. So sad, but the way of the future I guess. Cheers for the video
combination. the md80 at these max lnd weights tents to run out of trim. big deflections are needed (lower airspeeds) and sxm has a huge mountain right in front of the rwy. gives a choppy wind. and we're based on a small island so all parts are imported. we try to save on tires and brakes. looking for that smooth touchdown each n every time plus we let it roll till the end for the brakes(when traffic permits)
I think that another important factor is the use of servotabs in order to move the controls
All the "pilots" who comment on aviation videos... you should know that flight sim/video game flying isn't the same thing as real flying.
Clearly. There is no turbulence. No birds to look out for or other aircraft. No thousand different gauges and switches. No ATC. It is like comparing movie racing to the real thing. But it is still fun.
sim flying is excellent for training though. but that alone doesn't qualify you to make real life input. and that's why they say every flight is different
when i fly a flight sim, i turn off crash detection and only rein-act the movie flight
***** No it isn't... Makes you develop bad habits
@rebelyell22 no it isn't... Bad habits come from yourself, and not from anything else.
you must be the type that blames others for your failures
That was a lot of yoke wrestling on landing, nice work, but.. Is this solely based on vfr and feeling at this stage or instrument based? Silly question I know, I presumed at landing speed with flaps full it takes a lots more work to battle the lessened stability. Dom (going back to school to achieve some stripes!)
Ahhh! The MD-80.
I spent years of my life working on the SEM for the fuel system, (the main computer), and the CDU, (fuel quantity gauge), brings back memories!
That's "Princess Juliana" to you, fella. Used to keep my sailboat there in the Lagoon, and also flew in there as a 727, and later a 757, Captain. I could see my boat as I turned off RW 08, but we never over-nighted at SXM. So I had to fly down as a passenger.
Amazing yoke work! ...and for Faris Mufti, as far as the pilot "being so hard with the flight controls", that's called flying an airliner "hands on", FYI :)
Ah, the memories of landing there on DC-3s and Convairs!!
Gonna start FSX right away..
yeah me too
FSXNOOB - GᗩᗰᕮS & ᗰOᖇᕮ 0?
@@bulbul687 fUUCk yoUU?
Well worn MD. Flew them with MidEx back in the day. Moved on to bigger...but not better...aircraft. I'll always have a special place in my heart for them! Loved being able to pull 20deg deck angle departures and scoot out of low scud in no time. Although the 75's I flew were referred to as "muscle" jets...the MD's were no slouch. I'd happily jump into one of the seats for old times sake!
great video, im 15 and really wanting to be an airline pilot
+peter hoover ...Do it.....don't let anything get in your way and don't look back
Tourism or contract pilot better, much more interesting. Airliners now are like flying buses and as boring as too.
Want to be a pilot huh ? Well........try this first. Tonight at midnight clear out your wardrobe & put a chair in it. Now sit in it & close the door & stay there for 15 hours. This will simulate a back of the clock night flight. Every half hour get your mom to complainingly bring you a cold cup of coffee & shine a flash light directly in your face then drop a blacksmiths anvil on the cockpit floor. This will simulate in flt crew service & flight attendants job dissatisfaction by opening & slamming the cockpit door with cabin lights on full bright. Then get your mom to light a ships flare & put it on the wardrobe shelf near your face. This will simulate the sun rising.
Still interested ?
Don't listen to @@graemewilliams1308 , airline pilots are one of the coolest jobs to have in the world. They are one of the few well respected, well paid jobs that you don't have to sit in a cubicle or office for and do the same thing every day as the time passes. You get to see the world from above, doing things others only dream of. There's a reason they call it 'having your head in the clouds', its so amazing that to most people, it seems unattainable. Try looking up videos of people filling out insurance, bank loans, or writing wills for old people. You won't, but you can find videos of airline pilots, because THEY LOVE THEIR JOB!
@@graemewilliams1308 i guess that's what your mum told you when you want to becomes a pilot too?
seems like you were moving on the controls quite a bit when landing. is this caused by wind. i hear it is usually very windy there at times. nice job.
pigskin1000 actually the controls become very mushy as one slows down to landing speed so requires greater inputs
So much of inputs! I can just imagine thewinds.. Well that was pretty late n a hard landing right?
Not a very 'sterile cockpit" and very little landing callouts or acknowledgements. Yes it is the Mad Dog but you still are transporting humans that you are responsible for.
less planes than cars, but over greater distances, planes transport more people than cars.
birds are a problem really, but 99.999% of the time, the birds you'd see, will not make contact with the plane. and if it would, it will be transformed into a small red coloured splash on the fuselage. no dent. dangerous,..? yes,.. should you worry about that risk? no
Got to love the Submariner in his wrist. Very nice.
This is an old video of an even older aircraft. That cockpit looks sooooooo old fashioned compared to current airliners.
After years of flying the yoke gets hand acid and so removes the paint.
At 5:18 and 5:47 why is he rocking the yoke from side to side like a formula one driver?
5:51 why i don't hear 50 40 30 20 10?
That craft didnt have that
I flew insel air and pawa had so much fun flying the md80s great video sad that they are bankruot niw 🥺
on older boeings, they dont have the countdown. the aircraft owner could install it. we have it installed on some md80's. not all. check the other videos and you'll see. greetings
The good ole' maddog! My most favorite aircraft!
but there is no loc and gs in tncm ! so were left with altitude, descent rate, speed and Good airmanship :)
i really love such old cockpits! modern cockpits are too tidy and boring for me XD
did he just land a plane using one hand like its nothing ?
DJ ryan socarevolution Yes. That's his job.
tnx! no not always do you need a lot of control input. depends on the wind, and of course weight of aircraft, runway etc. about adding power to smooth out the landing... well some people tend to do it. im not sure about doing that, if preferred to do "one" big flare input instead of adding the power. but again it all depends on the current situation. the aircraft when at max landing weight(or higher weights)tends to run out of elevator trim. hence maddog ! sometimes you just need to be agressive
Over 25 years on the mad dog, nice job guys.
Hope you get things resolved with Insel.
Tnx
We are brothers... Just different paint jobs...never forget that....
Good for you. I’m not a pilot but ‘in the end’ it looked like a pretty good touchdown. Now, where is my “penny?” Haha! :-)!!!
How not to land an md80: putting too much load on jackscrew
you learned about a md80 part :) good for you :P
PJ-MDA Never gonna fly again. In the process of being parted out. Willemstad / Curacao - Hato (CUR / TNCC) Curacao, March 23, 2014
That's a shame. Another Maddog parted out as beer cans.
es correcto, los ajustes son basados en calculaciones mental. siempre hay e possibilidat den hacerlo sin calculos pero en un pista como en st.maarten que es muy limitada, no lo puedes dejar solo al ojo. el possibilidad automatico via el fmc tambien es possible, pero porque volar un avion classico automatico???
In most airliners, moving the control wheel drives hydraulic actuators which deflect the ailerons. On the MD80 however, the control wheel is connected by a system of cables and pulleys to a 'servo tab'. This is a small control surface that is hinged at the trailing edge of the aileron. Deflection of the servo tab creates aerodynamic forces on the aileron which in turn push them up and down. The lack of a direct link results in 'sloppier' controls (for want of a better word).
Very nice video ! This maddog has -for me- a cool history. It was originally delivered new to Aero Lloyd (former german airline) in 1987. I had a trip to Mallorca (Spain) exactly on this plane in 1997. So I´am very glad to see that this bird is still flying. And I´am even more excited to know that this aircraft is now landing on my favourite airport St. Maarten. Good work ! Thank´s for sharing !!
With a car, if I lose the engine, I pull over to the side of the road and call a to tow truck. In the air, if lose an engine or both, there is no pulling over to the side of the road, it's down you go. Power controls altitude, pitch controls airspeed and with the md83, no pwr means no hydraulics which means no pitch etc. Just messing with you haitiano1982, maybe.
4325air, that sound is the horizontal stabiliser motion alert. The autopilot uses it to trim the pitch. If it moves more than 2 deg in 3 seconds or so, then bitchin betty also chimes in with a "stabilser motion" verbal warning. You hear this all the time flying in turbulence, and it's nothing to worry about :)
Sir I take my hat off to your skills as a pilot. Awesome footage :0)
Does the MD-80 not respond to input that low to the ground? It looks like the FO was banking to the left and right like crazy, but nothing was happening. Almost like the control surfaces were not responding. Or, maybe is the characteristics of the MD-80 that low the ground?
Was sorry to hear about what happened with Insel, had great times watching them and many others at St Maarten shame a lot of the classic aircraft no longer in use now.
PS, How about someone getting a small can of spray paint or normal paint and put some on the yokes? If you want I will come and do it for you, but only if you fly me to St Juliana return as your jump seat passenger. Deal?;)
almost used the whole runway, amazing
great....!!!!
AA 191? It's the only 191 I can find on Google.
That's a DC 10, which actually has its design flaw in its tail I believe; however that was not the issue with that flight. That flight lost its left engine.. literally...
It was preventable though, just the stupidity of AA trying to save money (go figure). That's why I never fly AA, horrible customer service, and they go the cheap route with everything. Their pilots are amazing though.
But you notice that during the jiggling the plane is not varying it's course by that much. The left to right simply moves the ailerons on the wings. I don't want to imply that this is like the steering wheel in your car (because it is not), but, you do tend to move your steering wheel left to right when you drive to make adjustments for the shape of the road without really thinking about it too much. Similarly, here, they are making adjustments for the wind--the air.
=) hello ! i flew an A321 and the feeling isnt the same u dont have that "feeling" in a fbw aircraft. but the responses are the same... the sidestick has a modern computer that interprets ur moves .. if u move smoothly the plane will move the same and wild the plane will do that but you wont have that "feeling" that you do have in "column" control.
Every time I see the MD80 cockpit I can't help but think of Denzel Washington.
+Jaydon Ayache the plane in the movie flight was fictitious, based on the MD-80 called a JR-88 in the movie. I still am wondering just what the hell those rods they pulled up and turned were for? never seen them in any aircraft.
Those guys know their business, how in the world can they know what hundreds of gauges , buttons , lights , switches go to what and when , hard training I guess. Got to give them their dues. 👌😀👌
jim beasley and a 9
Huas
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For those that don't understand how to fly a large jet, or don't understand the ATC system or limitations of TNCM, its better if you don't comment..
Not remended to crash the aircraft ever Eh?/ this is a dificult airport to land at. IRL or in sims lol. this polit/polits did quite nicely i must admit.
the u.s is ur best choice. cheapest and one of the best education levels
would cost around 36,000 till 48,000 u.s dollars depending on the school,location, multi engine or single engine.
add like 9,000 u.s dollars more if ur getting a type rating (a big jet flying certificate or license)
My gosh! I'm a commercial/instrument pilot but have never flown a large jet. I am shocked at the amount of throw on the co-pilots control wheel! Is that normal? It seemed REALLY excessive and looks like a mechanical issue (I'm also an A&P but never worked on MD80). Anybody?
buddy thats 261 and i hate to burst your bubble but the jackscrew(the cause of the accident) is on all planes so it could happen to anyone, but let me ask you a question how many times has a jackscrew failed in over 100 years of flight...yeah once so theres no need to worry and we know better now
I'd avoid T-shaped tail planes.
They're beautiful, but in the case of a deep stall...
Plus when the engines are attached to the fuselage and there's explosion in one of them the debris of the explosion can damage hydraulics that leads to the control surfaces on the tail.
only because there are less planes than cars!! planes are dangerous on takeoff and landing. mainly because of birds at certain heights, one bird can kill an engine. pretty lethal machines. perhaps we should leave the skies for the birds!!
also to mention that there are probably over 100,000 flights a day so really buddy theres nothing to worry about theres more chance of you dieing getting to the airport rather than in a plane crash so theres nothing to worry about
They are just controlling altitude, descent rate and speed as well as loc and gs. Just making the needed inputs to the ap for approach. It becomes monotonous after doing it enough times. The fun part is when you disconnect the ap.
@stevegauth30 Yep. The amber lights indicate that the reversers are unlocked, and the blue lights indicate that reverse is available.
Thats because TNCM has no taxiways allowing you to exit after a landing on RWY10. You have to go down to the far end of the runway for a 180° turn, taxi back some of the runway before you can turn into the apron.
Great video Haitiano. Just a quick question...At what point did you disengage the Auto Throttle? I can see the switch on the ON position the whole time until the reverse 4 lights come on. Am I mistaken on this observation?
Wouldn't an FBW equipped aircraft leave the job of computing how much more deflection is needed to the computer rather than the pilot?So the pilot would have to make less big inputs but the outcome would be the same.
Just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos. I film thunderstorm videos from my plane for a living. I'm looking forward to the convective weather you will encounter this spring and summer. Great work!
Watch yourself, haitiano1982... 123ypaul has over 60 hours in Microsoft Flight Simulator. The guy knows what he is talking about.
@haitiano1982 Sabes como sabe el piloto cuanto ponerle al selector de velocidad vertical? Veo que lo ajusta varias veces y pareciera que lo hace tanteando al ojo, a menos que este haciendo calculos en su mente.
0:21 captain speaking ... 🤔 ... "sterile concept" already implemented in cockpit comms back in 2011?
It was flight related!
What I thought was amazing is the a amount of control stick movement the pilot made as the aircraft flared for landing. Wow!
I don't know, but the plane is registered in the netherlands antilles. i found that on wikipedia.
Every single cockpit video, you get a bunch of nerds that critique things they know nothing about, and think they're experts because they play flight sim. Drives me crazy.
@haitiano1982 I believe that is because the control wheel is linked to cables, rather than a Fly-by-Wire electronic system found on newer jets. Am I right?
I can't believe how much a pilot has to jiggle the controls right and left in and out to land. About 7:21 minutes you can see what I'm talking about.
@BustBunker since there were crosswinds turning the yoke stops the winds from changing there approach and landing and makes the plane strait at touchdown
hello haitiano ! how are you ? please, can you explain me what's that chime/alarm/sound in 05':45" ?
thank you a lot and great vids !!
Why did you take the whole runway to stop? I've seen larger aircraft land there. Not trying to judge trying to learn. Thanks
lol that end bit wen you were flopping the stick around is how i do it on my flight sim game, i dont feall like a dick now hehe
A plane is the 3rd safest place in the world. (I think its third but its up there). A car is more dangerous than a plane
Not bad however it would be epic if you were in a more modern airliner such as an a330 or a340 but good non the less.
What were all of those alarms and warning sounds? I am sure they all meant something but what? And why were they constantly changing the switches and knobs on those devices with the numbers?
It tells them how low they are to the ground if there was once to be a crash, they change the knobs to make the distance higgher so the alarms don't go off when they are about to land.
Alot of them seem to be what this aircraft has in place of actual altitude callouts, another was the pilot disabling autopilot. All the buttons and nobs being twisted are the pilots adjusting the aircraft's auto pilot to comply with ATC instructions.
ThtIsRllyNice (Officialy starting in 2014) That daunting array of numbers, switches, dials, and knobs is the autopilot control panel or better known as the MCP panel. This panel controls the aircraft's autopilot in compliance to what the aircraft's pilots want it to do. For example, the pilots want a descent at -900 FPM to an altitude of 3,000 ft. What you saw the pilot adjusting up and down on the panel was the vertical speed selector, which sets the desired vertical speed to descend down to a specified altitude. There is also a speed selector, an altitude selector, a course selector, a heading selector, and much much more. An autopilot is designed to keep the workload down in the larger jet aircraft so the crew can concentrate on important matters. Of course, the autopilot can be disconnected and the aircraft can be hand flown at any point at the pilot's discretion. Autopilots transfer the job of hand flying to multiple servos which control all of the different axis's of the aircraft while in flight. Autopilots are quite useful. Very useful in fact! Anyways, I did the best I could!! Autopilots come in many, many different varieties but they all have one job in common. I hope I've answered your question! Happy Flying!!
The occasional horn, is the stab trim horn. Makes the same noise whether the a/p trims or the pilot trims. The increasing woooo near the runway is the radio altimeter sound. It starts at DH and continues woooo as it approaches the ground. Basically an old fashion 100, 50, 40, etc, call out from newer systems.
HEY HATIANO.......when you push the yoke forward suddenly @ 6:54, does it put the plane on the runway?
Great landing thanks for posting.
Which airline is this? I really wanna be a pilot but people say its hard to secure jobs that pay well
What is the constant short-duration buzzing sound? A vibrator for the altimeter or other indicator?
Great Video, hope the rest of the plane is in better condition than the steering wheel!
why was the first officer moving the yoke like crazy from left to right and up and down ?!?!????
If you would have googled the registration PJ-MDA, you would have seen that this is Insel air...
One word for this EXCELLENT. Hopi bon brother danki pa bo infight videos for di e flight deck
Thanks for share. Excelent!!!. From Bahía Blanca, Argentina
all the sewage still going into to ocean? nothing to do there but eat and drink. nude beach sucks. much of resorts still in ruins. French side has some stunning women.
your back?! :) more uploads pleaseee!! ive missed you ;)
MD-80 that damn thing will land anywhere ! Great post !. Why did you set the altitude to 4000 after you disengaged the autopilot ?
The particular missed approach procedure states to climb and maintain 4000. It gets set as the next alt to maintain IF we have to GoAround
Makes a lot of sense , thanks.
That was God awful. And that steering wheel has duct tape all over it. Can't wait to visit LOL
Desde el aire no se ve tan mal lapista es buena y me gusto el aterrizaje muy jovenes los pilotos Felicitaciones por el video
Gracias haitiano!
What does "sticking" mean in aviation terminology? :p
Holy Molly, did anyone see what that guy was doing to the control column just before touchdown?