Let’s be honest. Christians are really sad and lame individuals. Christ himself had a genius level IQ and had knowledge and fire of living and understanding which knew very few boundaries. There is about 0.000000000001 percent who actually care who Christ was and is, and if you think he doesn’t know this, your wrong!
The Chosen is beautifully made, and it is a great way to attract people to the Gospel. But I'm sure Jesus was so much deeper and smarter than depicted by the main character.
@@JT-gk8rc Scripture says that when He came to earth He laid aside His divinity and became like us, except without sin. He Himself said that He could do nothing unless He saw the Father doing it, and that the Father did His works through Him. Yes, He, Jesus, was and is God! But He became like us, very human. We know of His tremendous sacrifice for us in suffering on the cross physically, and the even more profound sacrifice in having the Father, with whom He had always been one, turn His face away from Him, but a huge part of His sacrifice that we often overlook was His laying aside His divine nature and taking on our humanity with its limitations and weaknesses. He did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.
@ You don’t love the lost or grow the kingdom by only testifying to one another. It’s the sick who need healing by the doctor. The lost sheep who need finding by the shepherd. The standing harvest that needs harvesters. The uninvited who need invitations to the wedding feast. How many other metaphors that Christ used should we recall.?
I love Jordan Peterson. I think he's one of the most important intellects of our time...but my God the man needs to learn how to let other people speak, or at least let them finish their sentences 😂
The only part I haven't enjoyed is Jesus in the show choosing not to heal people since we don't have a biblical example of Jesus doing that in the gospels. Scripture only says He healed "every disease and every affliction" like in Matthew 4:23. I know what they're doing is trying to encourage believers in this post-Jesus walking on earth era, where we don't see instant healing every time like with Jesus, but the time to do that is in the book of Acts like we see in scripture in 2 Timothy and Philippians with Epaphroditus and Trophimus, not with Jesus Himself. That is too much creative liberty because it's changing what the scriptures said He did. Jesus is Lord (1 Corinthians 12:3).
"That eliminates me as a reader". Yeah, Russian literature generally goes right past me. However, I do like "Sympathy for the Devil" which was much easier and (as I understand it) inspired by The Master and Margarita. And I like margaritas. And, The Chosen has been an inspiration for me. As JP mentioned, exploring the humanity of Jesus, to paraphrase, becomes important. It would be easy for God to manifest and die on the cross. He can do anything. But to become FULLY human, with our fears and mortality, and THEN to die on the cross, is a completely different proposition. To see his fear in the show makes it so much more real to me!
After season 2, I stopped watching, sorry but I don’t buy the way that story was told, the series story didn’t seem like a story will endure time just like the real life story of Jesus!
I didn’t make it past the second show. It’s basically a work of fiction based upon real people. Read what Dallas Jenkins says about the Morman faith. That was enough for me right there.
I have been a Christian for many years and have read and studied the Bible. I have watched maybe 3 episodes of The Chosen and feel that there is so much added to it that is not in the Bible that I do not want those things in my mind, the made up stuff of writers, actors, producers. I did appreciate seeing the visuals of biblical times....places, dress, way things were spoken, etc. Helps to understand it better to some degree. I may give it a shot again sometime but don't know if it's right for me. I do appreciate if it has brought others to Jesus or strengthened their faith.
The video to which my comments are attached is only an excerpt. Dallas Jenkins repeated statement that he is narcissistic will be seen in the full length video. The Chosen is what happens when you pass the truth from God's message to humanity through the filter of a narcissistic personality.
There is some good in the chosen series. However there are far too many liberties taken. Christ character is devalued by trying to make him more like us FALLEN humans. Like Christ making a joke and wanting to sleep in the possessed bed room
@ I’m not forgetting it. He was not fallen in his character. I doubt he found spirits possession in a room funny. Doubt the apostles were immature to the degree they were getting in fist fights w/each other and being kiddy kids. We have the scriptures. Far too many liberties taken in the series. Trying to make Christ more like us than he was. He was perfect man.
The Chosen is an amazing show and very accurate as much as a very good show can be. If it was exactly accurate it would be the visual Bible. And it would not draw as many people in as this show has done. I truly believe the hand of God is behind it. Like Jesus says in Mark 9:38-41.
@@Baseballisbest67 As I said to someone else here, "Be grateful that 'The Chosen' has helped countless many people awaken and come to the Bible! The incessant push for atheism--with the lie that the Bible is supposedly in competition with Science--in America alone is reason to rejoice that 'The Chosen' has made Christ and the Bible real to them in a way they never knew before."
I tried watching a couple of episodes of The Chosen but could only watch a few minutes before I started to feel physically sick and angry. The depiction of an at times befuddled, unsure, self directed Jesus that would refer to and deffer to mere humans bears no resemblance to the Biblical record. Likewise you will not find in the Biblical record; periferal characters as depicted in Dallas Jenkins' The Chosen. Who is it that would want to present a distorted, diminished Jesus ? Satan and his minions always want to offer an alternative, a counterfeit Christ. The "The Chosen" project from it's conception, inception, through it's production and presentation, has nothing to do with the Spirit of God ; the Holy Spirit. But is instead inspired by an unholy spirit. In his delusion Dallas Jenkins presumes to create a better version of Jesus; after a pattern of himself and other mere humans that he favors. Ah! Man creating God in his own image and likeness; complete with similar foibles and flaws. Hence Jenkins' Jesus having to rehearse before giving a teaching, ( never mind that the real Jesus says plainly in Biblical scripture, " I never say anything that I don't hear the Father say and I never do anything that I don't see the Father do". Apparently Jenkins is unaware of this essential truth from the Biblical record. Or knowing what God has said, he has chosen to ignore it and instead put his words in God's mouth. How is this not blasphemous ? It would appear that Jenkins believes that God's Word is not sufficient to convey his truth with effectual supernatural power. Dallas Jenkins is deceived and is deceiving others with his false Christ. If you watch the entirety of this video; you will hear Dallas Jenkins say repeatedly that he is narcissistic. Dallas Jenkins and Jordan Peterson have this dictating trait in common and both are demonic puppets. They are both false teachers in effect; one from inside the camp; the other from outside. The "The Chosen" is a Satanically inspired, demonically implemented counterfeit of Jesus' story designed to deceive the scripturally ignorant within the self identifying Christian community and those that are yet unsaved. Wake up! Understand the times we are living in. The spirit of Antichrist is already in the world. Spiritual deception is pervasive and increasing. Read, study and commit to memory the truth of Biblical scripture. Reject the poisonous koolaid of emergant and progressive theology so that you will not be duped by the lie that is The Chosen.
@@suehamblin9652Mt. 4:4 Jesus answered, " It is written: ' Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God". The feast is always ready. Keep the faith. God is for you. Your Father has great plans for you.
It’s good advice to keep to the Bible, the round table discussions on theology show the producers are searching out what the Bible says. I have also heard interviews where those actors and Director Dallas advice the same thing … the Bible should be read. Always checking what the Bible says. It’s not that The Chosen will be word for word of the Bible in every scene, it actually does exegesis and contextualises the Bible, I love The Chosen attempts to fill in gaps.. it enriches the Bible for me as it shows the humanity of Jesus.
The Chosen led me to Jesus...... Reading the Bible made me an Atheist. I loved the Jesus I saw depicted in the Chosen and started going to Church and reading the Bible from page 1 all the way through. I tried very hard to mentally make allot of problematic stuff into metaphor to rationalize it but by the time I got to Samuel 2 I was sure the baby killing, genocidal psychopath of a God in the Old Testament was not Jesus or vice versa. I still love the idea of Jesus and I think Jonathan Roumie's portrayal is just beautiful. I still tear up watching him. I wish that the belief around Jesus was just of a wise teacher or prophet to follow and aspire to but all the other baggage of the OT, Hell and being the only path to salvation is just bunk and unfortuneately makes the whole thing impossible to believe. I'd rather just live my life following the golden rule and trying be the best person I can be. If that's not good enough for any "God" then so be it.
I cannot understand how a REAL Christian, who knows the wonder of seeing Jesus with SPIRITUAL eyes, wants to taint that with images of a fantasy Jesus…
We are not to add or take away from what is in the Bible ( Rev 22:18-19, and Deut 4:2). I think that is what The Chosen does when it just makes up this story. I also have a problem with the Jesus they present and using Jesus as entertainment.
Its not that isnfake. Is that events such as jesus baptism and transfiguracion are central to displaying his divinity. The chosen reflects jesus' humanity but not his divinity as it should have been according to scripture. @Spurgeon_General
The first episode I ever watched was the scene with Nicodemus a la John Chapter 3. The smiling Jesus saying to Nicodemus, “What does your heart tell you?” ruined it for me for ever. I understand poetic license but that was ridiculous and clearly demonstrated to me that the producers clearly did not understand Christ or the Gospel message and the rest was going to be sentimental hogwash. Subsequent viewings of different episodes confirmed that for me. Don’t waste your time if you want to understand what the fight of the Faith really is.
@@CSUnger but here you are, wasting your time reading posts about the show and offering your generous critique. I guess this means you understand the Gospel better those folks at The Chosen.
@singingpretty: “ [3] Beloved, being very eager to write to you of our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. [4] For admission has been secretly gained by some who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” Jude 1:3-4 I’ve been a Christian for 51 years now and if I’ve learned anything at all about our faith it is this: that in the end times, many will come IN HIS NAME, and lead many astray (Matt.24:11) and the way they will lead many astray is through three methods: “a false Christ, a false Gospel, and a false spirit” 2 Cor. 11:4. “Take heed that no one leads you astray” Matt.24:4. Don’t think that just because it has Jesus’s name on it that it is from God. Being “lead astray” isn’t the same thing as “falling away”. You are still moving forward but you are just on a different path than the one you may have started out on. Don’t be so proud as to think you have all wisdom and knowledge.
I agree. The whole project of The Chosen is a work primarily of fiction based upon real people. Jesus has been so humanized, He is basically unrecognizable to the Bible.
Scripture is not open to interpretation nor is it about…. What does this scripture mean to you. Scripture is intended to have my opinion come in line with God’s Word, not God’s WORD LINE UP WITH MY OPINION,
Look to the Sumerian writings about the Annunaki and the hybridization of the Homo Erectus specie. That hybridization started with the Hewbrews. They were the chosen.
@@YourStylesGeneric321 The oldest writings are from the Sumarians. Just Google it or watch the many videos. The Annunake are also referenced in the Bible. These extraterrestrials were considered as Gods by man at that time. "The Sons of God saw the daughters of Men that they were fair."
I am blessed that I don’t have to consume everything the world make: have not watched and will not watch the Chosen. also, I didn’t watch the movie Titanic
Dallas Jenkins thinks Christians worship the same God as The Mormons. His lack of fundamental understanding should give anyone pause before watching The Chosen.
I read that the Mormons produced the chosen and it definitely made me watch it with a more critical eye, they don’t believe in the trinity, hence Jesus is not God to them, just a chill guy, but I’m giving it a chance.
@@brandona25the show has manifested many times that Jesus is God, for example in Season 2 episode 1, at the end of that episode Jesus says: "I am who I am"
Consider how many have come to the Bible as a result of watching "The Chosen." NB: "The Chosen" doesn't claim to "save" anyone; you shouldn't condemn it for a crime it is not committing.
I feel like some people have made "The Chosen" their Bible. Just here to say to the few of you who have done this: yes, it's based of Truth and historical fact but it's still a work of fiction. A midrash to be used for lectio divina and not for replacement of the bible. ❤
Be grateful that "The Chosen" has helped countless many people awaken and come to the Bible! The incessant push for atheism--with the lie that the Bible is supposedly in competition with Science--in America alone is reason to rejoice that "The Chosen" has made Christ and the Bible real to them in a way they never knew before.
You can fill your head with anything, when you know that you stop doing it ...because you are the kingdom the freedom the words that speak them ...hello there fellow one...all is one ...mind you dont forget mind❤
I dislike the chosen for the way the main caracter performs our Lord Christ. Even if I listen Peterson often, I don't think the way he thinks and I don't follow him in the way the host says. Maybe he says so because that is what he does.
"The Last Temptation" by Kazantzakis is a good book. The movie was disappointing. I watched the first two seasons of Chosen, and might have continued watching it. Recently heard from somewhere on ytube that they dropped in some quotes from the Book of Mormon (season three?), so that makes it propagandistic (and false). Erick Avari was really good as Nicodemus, and those bits of the story were perhaps the most interesting.
I tend to agree with you a bit. They drag it out by putting these unimportant fillers in like the fighting apostles and personality differences and made up problems to prolong the series to make more money. It becomes distracting to the whole purpose of Jesus Christ.
Fascinating to see J.P. suffering from the greatest form of cognitive dissonance there is. We all need one another in order to thrive...except in the most important Relational concept of all. "Look out for you own salvation" = "Leave me the h*ll alone!" 🤣 Classic. "I (Jesus) am THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life. NO ONE comes to the Father but by ME." There's your pidgeon-hole Jordan
Might have to give up on Peterson. Instead of leading by truth and standing up against compelled speech. He's becoming a mouth piece for celebrity. That and I'm starting to see the chameleon that buddy from Rutfeld saw. :(
..... a Christian show that isn't just for Christians to watch. The target audience is in fact the same as Christ's own target audience while He walked the Earth; Everyone!
The author of The Master and Margharita born in Kyiv, Russian Empire and may be considered Ukrainian, appropriated as Russia does to Ukrainian culture. 🇺🇦
Notice that he never answered the question regarding what HE believes but rather moved the conversation to his wife’s belief/faith… also, his body language shows him closing up. What’s he hiding? Oh yeah, the fact that he’s a PSY OP! Just like religion is a PSY OP.
Thanks for honoring free speech. If Jordan had studied religious history, he would be aware that long before the Jesus son of a god myth ... many other sons of gods myths were hallucinated in the minds of men in ancient times. My perception is that the cavemen claimed that gods were talking to them ... but that story was not as “real to life” as future generations expected … so … as time went by … offspring of those cavemen created stories that humans were SO evil ... and SO disobedient to the gods, that the gods felt impelled to send their own sons to earth ... to in turn warn the evil humans that they MUST repent of sin TO these sons of gods ... or the gods would see to it that they would spend eternity in the "afterlife" suffering. The supposed savior of souls of Christians, was just the most recent savior-myth story. Example as follows, and please note how Chrishna was spelled, before the Christians came up with the word Christ, and how the Hindus then changed the spelling of their supposed savior to "Krishna." From the book … The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875. and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven. 1. Chrishna of Hindostan. 2. Budha Sakia of India. 3. Salivahana of Bermuda 4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt. 5. Odin of the Scandinavians. 6. Crite of Chaldea. 7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia. 8. Baal and Taut, “the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia. 9. Indra of Thibet. 10. Bali of Afghanistan. 11. Jao of Nepaul. 12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese. 13. Thammuz of Syria. 14. Atys of Phrygia. 15. Xamolxis of Thrace. 16. Zoar of the Bonzes. 17. Adad of Assyria. 18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam. 19. Alcides of Thebes. 20. Mikado of the Sintoos. 21. Beddru of Japan. 22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids. 23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls. 24. Cadmus of Greece. 25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites. 26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico. 27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls. 28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa. 29. Divine teacher of Plato. 30. Holy One of xaca. 31. Fohi and Tien of China. 32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece. 33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome. 34. Prometheus of Caucasus. 35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia. These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
Claims of Krishna’s resurrection don’t emerge until the sixth or seventh century. So, like Krishna, many stories on that list are simply coppying Christ.... Also how many of those were historical figures who were actually crucified and risen from the dead and changed world history. None.
Not for the small minded. The chosen is such an arrogant notion. The plain fact of the matter is that you are all wrong about God. God is a mechanism, not a winged magic being. The following is a taste of things to come and just for the sake of pushing back, people like me were “chosen” to put the world of silly back in its box. The mind employs a set of a’ priori modes to systemically align and thus, synthesise with the order and symmetry of things. Adding is an obvious mode to most. You can’t add up what I am about to relay without it. We can’t add up the variables of evolution without it. It’s not just there for adding up the pennies in your purse. Categorisation is another mode. We categorically define the world we are of. I categorise adding as a mode of thought. We move in and out of categories continuously. Identification is another mode. Identify the structure of the cell. Identify our root on the evolutionary ladder. Identify categorisation as a mode. We can’t seem to be able to identify our own nature as human in a fixed way. Just can’t ground the predicate. Configuration is another mode. When things don’t figure, it’s because the mind hasn’t combined with the correct configuration. Unification is another mode. To unify what we are searching for. To add it up and unify it. There are many more modes. Considered together as a constellation set; as a concatenation of modes, the mind can be seen as a systemic tool. A tool prior to ego and experience. A tool for systemising and synthesising its place in the order of things as I said. You are employing them right now as you engage with me. This set is in everyone. It is a universal set and thought is impossible without it. Language by extension is impossible without it. From a phenomenological perspective, this set is what we are until we know more. It is this set that allows us to abstract and see that appearances are not what things are. It is this set that allows us to see that the body has no fixed predicate so it is a loose idea at best. In essence, we are a set of systemic modes floating in an ocean of dissipating variables and until we can say more we are that. This set is responsible for all knowledge structures. Science and philosophy are impossible without the systemic lens/eye. Kant employed them to ground his categories. Einstein employed them to ground his perspective and so forth. One ring to rule them all. One eye to systemise it all. This is the eye of consciousness/god becoming whole again.
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Let’s be honest. Christians are really sad and lame individuals. Christ himself had a genius level IQ and had knowledge and fire of living and understanding which knew very few boundaries. There is about 0.000000000001 percent who actually care who Christ was and is, and if you think he doesn’t know this, your wrong!
“The Chosen Series: I am the law of Moses” (Full scene) - quote is from book of Mormon and not in the Bible!
I am more than pleased to continue watching the Chosen. It is visually beautiful and it is high-quality acting and story line.
The Chosen started out good, progressed to great and then went beyond. Amazing. Can't wait for upcoming seasons.
I love The Chosen, every time I watch it, it brings me closer to God. I so Love IT. The Holy Sprit spoke to me on the first episode
Test the spirits….
I’ve read the book. 😂😂😂
We are more than pleased to hear Dr. Jordan Peterson's thoughts about The Chosen. Sounds like Dallas needs to add a few books to his list. 😉
Right on! Thanks for creating a series that has inspired so many people to learn about the gospel for the first time.
The Chosen is beautifully made, and it is a great way to attract people to the Gospel. But I'm sure Jesus was so much deeper and smarter than depicted by the main character.
The main character is smart and deep. It's for the first time EVER showing Jesus as Human too. Not just all knowing and fully divine.
He was human.
@@fonz114Only in body. His nature was divine. The Chosen does a poor job of showing of that.
@@JT-gk8rc Scripture says that when He came to earth He laid aside His divinity and became like us, except without sin. He Himself said that He could do nothing unless He saw the Father doing it, and that the Father did His works through Him. Yes, He, Jesus, was and is God! But He became like us, very human. We know of His tremendous sacrifice for us in suffering on the cross physically, and the even more profound sacrifice in having the Father, with whom He had always been one, turn His face away from Him, but a huge part of His sacrifice that we often overlook was His laying aside His divine nature and taking on our humanity with its limitations and weaknesses. He did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.
@@rebecca120xmany exactly how did Jesus lays aside His Devine nature?
@@JT-gk8rc How do you capture divine on film?
Why does this dude continually interrupt
He is very obnoxious. Has been since the show began. The show itself is very good but he I could do without.
He maybe just excited.
Hes excited. For good reason. Over eagerness can sometimes seem desperate but digging into it he has good reason to be so happy and eager to discuss.
You did not watch the whole interview, Jordan barely gave him a chance to speak
My thought exactly. Let your guest talk!
JP: “Look to your own salvation “ 🙌☝️🙏
Salvation is in CHRIST alone.
Not a Christian precept. Sorry. We are called to make disciples.
@ yes make disciples testifying to one another and work out your own salvation..pick up your cross
@ You don’t love the lost or grow the kingdom by only testifying to one another. It’s the sick who need healing by the doctor. The lost sheep who need finding by the shepherd. The standing harvest that needs harvesters. The uninvited who need invitations to the wedding feast. How many other metaphors that Christ used should we recall.?
I love Jordan Peterson. I think he's one of the most important intellects of our time...but my God the man needs to learn how to let other people speak, or at least let them finish their sentences 😂
I wish he read comments because this is a common complaint. It’s rude to not let people finish their thought.
Strange how being a renowned psychologist J.P. doesn't seem to recognize he fits the textbook definition of
a conversational narcissist.
He's a good intellectual. NOT a good interviewer.
thank you for sharing this clip. God bless ya’ll 🍃🦋🤍🦋🍃
I love the Chosen series
The only part I haven't enjoyed is Jesus in the show choosing not to heal people since we don't have a biblical example of Jesus doing that in the gospels. Scripture only says He healed "every disease and every affliction" like in Matthew 4:23. I know what they're doing is trying to encourage believers in this post-Jesus walking on earth era, where we don't see instant healing every time like with Jesus, but the time to do that is in the book of Acts like we see in scripture in 2 Timothy and Philippians with Epaphroditus and Trophimus, not with Jesus Himself. That is too much creative liberty because it's changing what the scriptures said He did. Jesus is Lord (1 Corinthians 12:3).
"That eliminates me as a reader". Yeah, Russian literature generally goes right past me. However, I do like "Sympathy for the Devil" which was much easier and (as I understand it) inspired by The Master and Margarita. And I like margaritas. And, The Chosen has been an inspiration for me. As JP mentioned, exploring the humanity of Jesus, to paraphrase, becomes important. It would be easy for God to manifest and die on the cross. He can do anything. But to become FULLY human, with our fears and mortality, and THEN to die on the cross, is a completely different proposition. To see his fear in the show makes it so much more real to me!
Lot of bots in here for that stupid magnetic aura book
Having Prayer's answered...thank s God for Jorden have prayered for years
Modern day interviewers would be wise to learn when to shut up and listen. You are there to dig up answers, not to become part of them.
After season 2, I stopped watching, sorry but I don’t buy the way that story was told, the series story didn’t seem like a story will endure time just like the real life story of Jesus!
I didn’t make it past the second show. It’s basically a work of fiction based upon real people. Read what Dallas Jenkins says about the Morman faith. That was enough for me right there.
I have been a Christian for many years and have read and studied the Bible. I have watched maybe 3 episodes of The Chosen and feel that there is so much added to it that is not in the Bible that I do not want those things in my mind, the made up stuff of writers, actors, producers. I did appreciate seeing the visuals of biblical times....places, dress, way things were spoken, etc. Helps to understand it better to some degree. I may give it a shot again sometime but don't know if it's right for me. I do appreciate if it has brought others to Jesus or strengthened their faith.
Why are there so many bots here?
Dead Internet.
We're still in the matrix?
bleep blop blorp. 😆
Love Peterson's jacket. Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top must be envious.
The video to which my comments are attached is only an excerpt. Dallas Jenkins repeated statement that he is narcissistic will be seen in the full length
video. The Chosen is what happens when you pass the truth from God's message to
humanity through the filter of a narcissistic personality.
There is some good in the chosen series. However there are far too many liberties taken. Christ character is devalued by trying to make him more like us FALLEN humans. Like Christ making a joke and wanting to sleep in the possessed bed room
He’s fully divine and fully human. You are forgetting the last part
@ I’m not forgetting it. He was not fallen in his character. I doubt he found spirits possession in a room funny. Doubt the apostles were immature to the degree they were getting in fist fights w/each other and being kiddy kids. We have the scriptures. Far too many liberties taken in the series. Trying to make Christ more like us than he was. He was perfect man.
The Chosen is an amazing show and very accurate as much as a very good show can be. If it was exactly accurate it would be the visual Bible. And it would not draw as many people in as this show has done. I truly believe the hand of God is behind it. Like Jesus says in Mark 9:38-41.
@ some good comes from it. My opinion is it is over rated and watered down.
@@Baseballisbest67 As I said to someone else here, "Be grateful that 'The Chosen' has helped countless many people awaken and come to the Bible! The incessant push for atheism--with the lie that the Bible is supposedly in competition with Science--in America alone is reason to rejoice that 'The Chosen' has made Christ and the Bible real to them in a way they never knew before."
Don't get the truth of the Bible or Jesus from any t.v. show or movie.
exactely as i would say as well: The chosen as good that i can imagine :)
"Non propagandistic".......I might just check it out.
As a non-believer I watched it and enjoyed it. It's fun and wholesome.
I tried watching a couple of episodes of The Chosen but could only watch a few minutes before I started to feel physically sick and angry. The depiction of an at times befuddled, unsure, self directed Jesus that would refer to and deffer to mere humans bears no resemblance to
the Biblical record. Likewise you will not
find in the Biblical record; periferal characters as depicted in Dallas Jenkins'
The Chosen. Who is it that would want to
present a distorted, diminished Jesus ?
Satan and his minions always want to
offer an alternative, a counterfeit Christ.
The "The Chosen" project from it's conception, inception, through it's production and presentation, has nothing
to do with the Spirit of God ; the Holy Spirit. But is instead inspired by an unholy
spirit. In his delusion Dallas Jenkins presumes to create a better version of Jesus; after a pattern of himself and other
mere humans that he favors. Ah! Man creating God in his own image and likeness; complete with similar foibles and flaws. Hence Jenkins' Jesus having to
rehearse before giving a teaching, ( never mind that the real Jesus says plainly in Biblical scripture, " I never say anything that I don't hear the Father say and I never
do anything that I don't see the Father do".
Apparently Jenkins is unaware of this essential truth from the Biblical record. Or
knowing what God has said, he has chosen to ignore it and instead put his words in God's mouth. How is this not blasphemous ? It would appear that Jenkins believes that God's Word is not
sufficient to convey his truth with effectual
supernatural power. Dallas Jenkins is deceived and is deceiving others with his
false Christ. If you watch the entirety of this video; you will hear Dallas Jenkins say repeatedly that he is narcissistic.
Dallas Jenkins and Jordan Peterson have this dictating trait in common and both are demonic puppets. They are both false teachers in effect; one from inside the camp; the other from outside. The "The Chosen" is a Satanically inspired, demonically implemented counterfeit of Jesus' story designed to deceive the scripturally ignorant within the self identifying Christian community and those
that are yet unsaved. Wake up! Understand the times we are living in. The spirit of Antichrist is already in the world.
Spiritual deception is pervasive and increasing. Read, study and commit to memory the truth of Biblical scripture.
Reject the poisonous koolaid of emergant
and progressive theology so that you will
not be duped by the lie that is The Chosen.
Spot on! Thank you!
@@suehamblin9652Mt. 4:4 Jesus answered,
" It is written: ' Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the
mouth of God". The feast is always ready.
Keep the faith. God is for you. Your Father has
great plans for you.
I miss Quintas
I don't think he is gone. I think he will show up again soon and I shutter the thought of when I think we will see him.
You won't find it in the Bible but......Jesus went to the toilet.😮
Best show ever
If you do want to come to Christ, follow what the Bible says. Ask God and he can lead you.
It’s good advice to keep to the Bible, the round table discussions on theology show the producers are searching out what the Bible says. I have also heard interviews where those actors and Director Dallas advice the same thing … the Bible should be read. Always checking what the Bible says. It’s not that The Chosen will be word for word of the Bible in every scene, it actually does exegesis and contextualises the Bible, I love The Chosen attempts to fill in gaps.. it enriches the Bible for me as it shows the humanity of Jesus.
Dallas. A word of advice. Ask the question, then SHUT UP and LISTEN!
You are all Chosen, Jesus Christ chose you over his own life.
Universalism? No. The chosen are the elect.
We must chose Jesus for ourselves.
The only unforgivable sin is turning our backs on Him.
@maryann7619 God opens the eyes and gives a heart of flesh first. Saved by grace. Do you understand what grace is?
@@roberttyler1206 Let me guess -- you see yourself as one of the elect. Congratulations.
@@jimscott9974 All glory to God.
Wasen; t "Sympathy for the Devil" of the Stones based on that book?
Yes. It's the Temptation of Christ that Nikos Kazanzakis wrote.
Theologically it’s fatally compromised
The Chosen led me to Jesus...... Reading the Bible made me an Atheist. I loved the Jesus I saw depicted in the Chosen and started going to Church and reading the Bible from page 1 all the way through. I tried very hard to mentally make allot of problematic stuff into metaphor to rationalize it but by the time I got to Samuel 2 I was sure the baby killing, genocidal psychopath of a God in the Old Testament was not Jesus or vice versa. I still love the idea of Jesus and I think Jonathan Roumie's portrayal is just beautiful. I still tear up watching him. I wish that the belief around Jesus was just of a wise teacher or prophet to follow and aspire to but all the other baggage of the OT, Hell and being the only path to salvation is just bunk and unfortuneately makes the whole thing impossible to believe. I'd rather just live my life following the golden rule and trying be the best person I can be. If that's not good enough for any "God" then so be it.
I cannot understand how a REAL Christian, who knows the wonder of seeing Jesus with SPIRITUAL eyes, wants to taint that with images of a fantasy Jesus…
How about let Petterson talk
We are not to add or take away from what is in the Bible ( Rev 22:18-19, and Deut 4:2). I think that is what The Chosen does when it just makes up this story. I also have a problem with the Jesus they present and using Jesus as entertainment.
I always notice the Christians that are devoted to the Biblical Jesus have distain for Jesus of the Chosen.
It’s a false Christ.
Its not that isnfake. Is that events such as jesus baptism and transfiguracion are central to displaying his divinity. The chosen reflects jesus' humanity but not his divinity as it should have been according to scripture. @Spurgeon_General
Agreed
@@Spurgeon_General Ik several Christians that are devoted to the Biblical Jesus who love The Chosen. It’s not that simple.
I am devoted to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and do not disdain the Jesus of The Chosen. Just sayin'. @Spurgeon_General
The first episode I ever watched was the scene with Nicodemus a la John Chapter 3. The smiling Jesus saying to Nicodemus, “What does your heart tell you?” ruined it for me for ever. I understand poetic license but that was ridiculous and clearly demonstrated to me that the producers clearly did not understand Christ or the Gospel message and the rest was going to be sentimental hogwash. Subsequent viewings of different episodes confirmed that for me. Don’t waste your time if you want to understand what the fight of the Faith really is.
Ignore the above comment.
Watch for yourselves.
This series is wonderful.
@@CSUnger but here you are, wasting your time reading posts about the show and offering your generous critique. I guess this means you understand the Gospel better those folks at The Chosen.
@singingpretty: “ [3] Beloved, being very eager to write to you of our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
[4] For admission has been secretly gained by some who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly persons who pervert the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” Jude 1:3-4
I’ve been a Christian for 51 years now and if I’ve learned anything at all about our faith it is this: that in the end times, many will come IN HIS NAME, and lead many astray (Matt.24:11) and the way they will lead many astray is through three methods: “a false Christ, a false Gospel, and a false spirit” 2 Cor. 11:4.
“Take heed that no one leads you astray” Matt.24:4.
Don’t think that just because it has Jesus’s name on it that it is from God. Being “lead astray” isn’t the same thing as “falling away”. You are still moving forward but you are just on a different path than the one you may have started out on. Don’t be so proud as to think you have all wisdom and knowledge.
I agree. The whole project of The Chosen is a work primarily of fiction based upon real people. Jesus has
been so humanized, He is basically unrecognizable to the Bible.
Scripture is not open to interpretation nor is it about…. What does this scripture mean to you. Scripture is intended to have my opinion come in line with God’s Word, not God’s WORD LINE UP WITH MY OPINION,
Why Director or Chosen talk to Peterson about his opinion abt “The Chosen”?
Who cares what he thinks!!!!
Look to the Sumerian writings about the Annunaki and the hybridization of the Homo Erectus specie. That hybridization started with the Hewbrews. They were the chosen.
Yeah like which writings?
Details please.
Are these theological writings or biological/paleobiological papers?
@@maryann7619 Sumerian writings. Google it. There are also Utube videos on it.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂🤣
@@YourStylesGeneric321 The oldest writings are from the Sumarians. Just Google it or watch the many videos.
The Annunake are also referenced in the Bible. These extraterrestrials were considered as Gods by man at that time.
"The Sons of God saw the daughters of Men that they were fair."
I am blessed that I don’t have to consume everything the world make: have not watched and will not watch the Chosen. also, I didn’t watch the movie Titanic
Great comment! All my friends have raved about the Chosen and consumed it. It hasn't captured me.
Dallas Jenkins thinks Christians worship the same God as The Mormons. His lack of fundamental understanding should give anyone pause before watching The Chosen.
Evidence?
@@DarekFalen
Jenkins has said these things publicly.
The Jesus of the Chosen is a misrepresentation of the Biblical Jesus.
Is that you Satan?
I read that the Mormons produced the chosen and it definitely made me watch it with a more critical eye, they don’t believe in the trinity, hence Jesus is not God to them, just a chill guy, but I’m giving it a chance.
@@brandona25the show has manifested many times that Jesus is God, for example in Season 2 episode 1, at the end of that episode Jesus says: "I am who I am"
Jesus was human also the chosen is a realistic portrayal of this
The Chosen won't save you. The BIBLE way to Heaven ruclips.net/video/8x_5BNfozyk/видео.html
Consider how many have come to the Bible as a result of watching "The Chosen." NB: "The Chosen" doesn't claim to "save" anyone; you shouldn't condemn it for a crime it is not committing.
I feel like some people have made "The Chosen" their Bible. Just here to say to the few of you who have done this: yes, it's based of Truth and historical fact but it's still a work of fiction. A midrash to be used for lectio divina and not for replacement of the bible. ❤
Be grateful that "The Chosen" has helped countless many people awaken and come to the Bible! The incessant push for atheism--with the lie that the Bible is supposedly in competition with Science--in America alone is reason to rejoice that "The Chosen" has made Christ and the Bible real to them in a way they never knew before.
You can fill your head with anything, when you know that you stop doing it ...because you are the kingdom the freedom the words that speak them ...hello there fellow one...all is one ...mind you dont forget mind❤
I dislike the chosen for the way the main caracter performs our Lord Christ. Even if I listen Peterson often, I don't think the way he thinks and I don't follow him in the way the host says. Maybe he says so because that is what he does.
last temptation of christ
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"The Last Temptation" by Kazantzakis is a good book. The movie was disappointing.
I watched the first two seasons of Chosen, and might have continued watching it. Recently heard from somewhere on ytube that they dropped in some quotes from the Book of Mormon (season three?), so that makes it propagandistic (and false).
Erick Avari was really good as Nicodemus, and those bits of the story were perhaps the most interesting.
What bits were from the book or Mormon???
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Propaganda entertainment is a major turn off
I don't like The Chosen. Seems to have a sleep signal sent in it.
The chosen is interesting but really a money maker, like his dad and left behind series.
I tend to agree with you a bit. They drag it out by putting these unimportant fillers in like the fighting apostles and personality differences and made up problems to prolong the series to make more money. It becomes distracting to the whole purpose of Jesus Christ.
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The Book was better.
For a super smart psychologist, Jordan's body language is very interesting. He telegraphs his lack of comfort in having his beliefs interrogated.
He's a great psychologist. Not a Christian...yet.
Yes, his uncomfortable body language is so noticeable.
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you probably shouldn’t read the book Magnetic Aura if you’re cool with missing out on how attraction really works.
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Nice tryyyyy
That isn’t missing out on anything
All of these lost comments. So many of you are just LOST. Wake tf UP.
The casting of modern Jews to play the part of Israelites is problematic.
A bit like casting the modern American urban population for Pilgrims.
Only two of the actors portraying any of the disciples are Jewish. Who should they use?
Fascinating to see J.P. suffering from the greatest form of cognitive dissonance there is. We all need one another in order to thrive...except in the most important Relational concept of all. "Look out for you own salvation" = "Leave me the h*ll alone!" 🤣 Classic.
"I (Jesus) am THE Way, THE Truth and THE Life. NO ONE comes to the Father but by ME." There's your pidgeon-hole Jordan
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seriously, don’t pick up the book Magnetic Aura unless you’re ready to see things differently, no joke.
I suggest to everyone watching this, to read the Son of man by Khalil Gibran
Is Jordan Peterson a narcissist?
We saw you kiss the wall, Jordan. Disappointing.
Too right mate
Casting the first stone I see,
How very un christian
don’t read the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki if you’re fine staying like everyone else, it’s not for you.
The Chosen sucks, and is a 2nd commandment violation
Satan???
😂😂😂😂
Might have to give up on Peterson. Instead of leading by truth and standing up against compelled speech. He's becoming a mouth piece for celebrity. That and I'm starting to see the chameleon that buddy from Rutfeld saw. :(
I stop listening to Jordan Peterson when he posted “ give them h3ll” to human beings. Lost all respect for this creature. 😢
I've lost all respect for you
Then why are you here?
Why do we care about what someone who’s not even a Christian thinks about a Christian show?
Because Christians want non Chrisitains to watch it. Their opinion matters.
..... a Christian show that isn't just for Christians to watch.
The target audience is in fact the same as Christ's own target audience while He walked the Earth; Everyone!
Is it a Christian show? Doesn't it have tinges of catholicism and Mormonism?, neither of which are Christians
Imagine if Jesus had an attitude like yours, he wouldn't have even bothered 😂😂😂
@kristophstjames4143 what are you talking about. Catholicism is Christian. You may not agree with Catholicism, but what an ignorant statement.
if you’re not ready for real change, skip the book Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, it’s too much for most people.
Selfchosen is like Self-fulfilling prophecy
Chosen or prophecy they are not
there is no god
And you absolutely Know this beyond any doubt because?...
So what are you doing here? I mean here on planet Earth?
I used to think that. There is though
Is that an absolute? But you obviously don’t believe in absolutes if you say there is no god.
The author of The Master and Margharita born in Kyiv, Russian Empire and may be considered Ukrainian, appropriated as Russia does to Ukrainian culture. 🇺🇦
Notice that he never answered the question regarding what HE believes but rather moved the conversation to his wife’s belief/faith… also, his body language shows him closing up. What’s he hiding? Oh yeah, the fact that he’s a PSY OP!
Just like religion is a PSY OP.
Oh dear.
The Chosen is very nice, but it's not healthy.
Remember who signs Peterson's paychecks.
Only if one is a Proto Orthodox Judeo Christain. Justin Peterson is not my guru... makes one wonder if he knows anything about Gnostic Christianity.
Thanks for honoring free speech.
If Jordan had studied religious history, he would be aware that long before the Jesus son of a god myth ... many other sons of gods myths were hallucinated in the minds of men in ancient times.
My perception is that the cavemen claimed that gods were talking to them ... but that story was not as “real to life” as future generations expected … so … as time went by … offspring of those cavemen created stories that humans were SO evil ... and SO disobedient to the gods, that the gods felt impelled to send their own sons to earth ... to in turn warn the evil humans that they MUST repent of sin TO these sons of gods ... or the gods would see to it that they would spend eternity in the "afterlife" suffering.
The supposed savior of souls of Christians, was just the most recent savior-myth story. Example as follows, and please note how Chrishna was spelled, before the Christians came up with the word Christ, and how the Hindus then changed the spelling of their supposed savior to "Krishna."
From the book … The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.
and finally these twenty Jesus Christs (accepting their character for the name) laid the foundation for the salvation of the world, and ascended back to heaven.
1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut, “the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.
These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
Claims of Krishna’s resurrection don’t emerge until the sixth or seventh century. So, like Krishna, many stories on that list are simply coppying Christ....
Also how many of those were historical figures who were actually crucified and risen from the dead and changed world history. None.
Oh my, are you ever a troubled soul.
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Not for the small minded. The chosen is such an arrogant notion. The plain fact of the matter is that you are all wrong about God. God is a mechanism, not a winged magic being.
The following is a taste of things to come and just for the sake of pushing back, people like me were “chosen” to put the world of silly back in its box.
The mind employs a set of a’ priori modes to systemically align and thus, synthesise with the order and symmetry of things.
Adding is an obvious mode to most. You can’t add up what I am about to relay without it. We can’t add up the variables of evolution without it. It’s not just there for adding up the pennies in your purse.
Categorisation is another mode. We categorically define the world we are of. I categorise adding as a mode of thought. We move in and out of categories continuously.
Identification is another mode. Identify the structure of the cell. Identify our root on the evolutionary ladder. Identify categorisation as a mode. We can’t seem to be able to identify our own nature as human in a fixed way. Just can’t ground the predicate.
Configuration is another mode. When things don’t figure, it’s because the mind hasn’t combined with the correct configuration.
Unification is another mode. To unify what we are searching for. To add it up and unify it.
There are many more modes. Considered together as a constellation set; as a concatenation of modes, the mind can be seen as a systemic tool. A tool prior to ego and experience. A tool for systemising and synthesising its place in the order of things as I said. You are employing them right now as you engage with me.
This set is in everyone. It is a universal set and thought is impossible without it. Language by extension is impossible without it.
From a phenomenological perspective, this set is what we are until we know more. It is this set that allows us to abstract and see that appearances are not what things are. It is this set that allows us to see that the body has no fixed predicate so it is a loose idea at best.
In essence, we are a set of systemic modes floating in an ocean of dissipating variables and until we can say more we are that.
This set is responsible for all knowledge structures. Science and philosophy are impossible without the systemic lens/eye. Kant employed them to ground his categories. Einstein employed them to ground his perspective and so forth. One ring to rule them all. One eye to systemise it all. This is the eye of consciousness/god becoming whole again.
Lolol this clown is calling others arrogant while claiming he alone knows what god is all about? Go take a nap junior.
Lol
@ debunk rather than laugh.
Perhaps you would know more about God if you read what he reveals about himself in the Bible.
@ perhaps you would know more if you moved beyond the bible.
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