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Hi everyone, he's Nizzahon and this is the best blog series
If you watch this video, you'll be able to rumble effectively and get some "serious value". :-)
@@jarrodmaistros9224 we got videos like this for every set, always playable, easily the top pick of most packs.
What card has the highest GIH WR ever recorded on 17lands?? ...... Times up, If you answered Orcish Bowmasters at 71% you would be correct
I remember drafting that bad boy sheeeeeesh stupidly good
This was before Arena's time, but i'm really curious to know what Pack Rat's WR was.
Throw from the saddle is at 59% GIHWR which is notably lower than some of these.
I wonder if it just older set design vs newer set design or just 17land data pool being alot bigger now.
I think Novice Inspector last set was over 60% winrate, and Preening Champion in MoM almost certainly was, so I think the tried and true method of “good body that 2 for 1s in some way” is still a winning formula
Man o War style cards have certainly gotten worse over time, but it definitely doesn’t help that our last 2 just sucked. Ropemaster has that crippling tapped rider and the MKM Vedalken was 6 mana and trapped in THE ward set
omg I didn't even notice his pride shirt that's so awesome!
I know right! made my day
I am dying to find out what pib is on the orange stripe. I mean, the other five are the colours. But orange?
Oh didn’t notice until this comment!
This is actually super useful for the chaos draft I'm playing today!
I haven't been playing magic as much this year but still catch all your videos. Thanks for keeping me in the loop!
No Sarulf’s pack mate is quite surprising!
It has a GIH winrate of 60.1% and is the best common in kaldheim
I don't know anything about Arena beyond what Nizzahon shows but I'll trust him.
My favorite two keyword abilities together have to be double strike and trample. "Let's meet in combat!!!"
"I might die, but it will be painful"
I think for quite a few of these you also have to take into consideration that usually their color was really good in the format too.
Healers Hawk: Boros was arguably the stronegst color pair and GW was also solid.
Organ Hoarder: UB was by far the strongest color pair and utilized the organ horder very very well.
Claim the precious: black was by far the strongest color (I think?).
For Toll of the Invasion I think a big part of what made it good was that the set had so sooooo many expensive-ish bombs that you could really only cleanly answer with counternagic (which sucked in the format) or by discarding it before your opponent could cast them.
Inspiring Overseer is in white and esper was the best color pair by far in capenna I think? Bant and Naya were also good iirc. Not 100% sure on this, barely played the format.
Yeah definitely. I like to look at how the card improves win rates (final column on 17lands) as well as pure win rate to try to avoid the color imbalance bias
Nah, it was Bant that dominated New Capenna Limited, with other combinations being far behind.
@@sallomon2357 ah right Ty. Still a white deck for the angel
Yeah, but the best commons would usually be in the best color or best color combo
@@jonsnow3855 what I want to say is that especially at lower rarities the WR data becomes less clear. Like imagine if blue has an absolutely bonkers common but all the other commons and uncommons suck, the blue deck synergies never come together and the other colors have better bombs. That card's winrate would take a serious dip.
Compare that to a very powerful rare or mythic bomb which can singelhandidly turn around games, suddendly the GIH WR is a lot more reliable because the card had a much larger impact on each individual game.
One card I'm surprised not to see on this list is Jewel Thief, the 3 mana 3/3 Vigilance Trample that made a treasure token from New Capenna, I remember that card being incredibly good.
Was surprised to see aven eternal over preening champion at 1 and then read the card and realized it’s slightly better preening champion lmao
This video is so good RUclips autoplay recommended I watch it twice in a row (I am)
I know a keyword stat line that is better than first strike deathtouch. Double strike deathtouch
Nice video! Now imagine if 17 lands had comprehensive Urza block data to work with.
Was surprised to not see Environmental Sciences. It's been more useful than Expanded Anatomy from my memories of the set, and it has been taken higher, but apparently has 6% lower winrate-in-hand. Yea it was good, but wouldn't've guessed, huh.
Do note though that Lessons probably have inflated winrate-in-hand stat, because you almost never have them in hand when they're bad. This is a case where I wish 17lands had "win rate when taken" stat, because Lessons also suck when you have to maindeck them, so that stat is useless.
I said as much about lessons
Since this is in hand win rate, it makes sense for expanded anatomy to be higher. If you took the sciences off of a learn card, you apparently needed fixing, so you're not doing great. It helped improve your chances on games that didn't start out as good as you wanted them to. Taking the anatomy made sense when you were ahead and beating down. At parity, you might have picked one of the sorceries that made creatures. Very interesting to see how difficult it is to compare these with just one statistic.
I was surprised that jewel thief wasn’t on this list. I’m sure it was close
Learn/lesson is a great concept and i hope we see it again.
Also, if that happens i hope they make it commander compatible (like companions are) as i dont see any problem with any of those cards in this format.
Given that 17lands has skewed sample size to overall playerbase, think it would be reasonable to normalize win rate of each card by win rate in the format. I suspect it fluctuates a bit as well - sometimes 17lands has 54, sometimes 56
Noticing a distinct lack of green cards on the list... as a green player this makes me sad.
The Jounreymage would be more interesting if it could bounce your creatures as welll. Especially in a wizard deck. I wonder why they added restriction, would not be broken common otherwise, I think
kinda surprised blood curddle has a higher GIH WR than some random cycler from ikoria considering how deck was the clear no1
Huh. Was really expecting the 1 mana toxic 1 creature that created a mite with toxic 1 on death.
sick shirt dude
I think Double Strike lifelink ist even better than First Strike ;) nice Video :)
Love this topic of video
Give us most expensive multicolour and artifact commons!
Did you mean Ixalan when you said Eldraine wasn't in 17lands?
Academy journeymage is surprising mly high in this list because the effect is well known and always good but not generaly not the best
Please tell me you didn't graduate from OU.
Weren't there any other common lessons which were which were better?
Hell yeah
Random fact: None of these cards are red or green
I only play commander format
I dig the shirt
Interesting topic today and also i’m here to cheers on the shirt!
Toll of the Invasion is very surprising. I thought it was a solid card but not a top common.
Back when WAR released, while I played MTG, I wasn't super Limited-aware, so I didn't know just how good TotI was. But the moment I played a flashback draft of the set on Arena I had LotR fresh in memory, which basically had a bigger brother of the Toll, which was one of the top commons for black in that set. So I immediately picked it, and it did not disappoint lol
Cool shirt. I'm happy to see more supportive comments on it, than people bitching about it in your audience.
Also nice content 😉
Hey man, loved the video. But really loved that shirt. Where do they sell it?
Video idea: the best Alchemy Cards in MTG Arena.
Love the t-shirt!
I think regardless of what the numbers say, anybody that has been drafting on Arena since its been around knows that Inspiring Overseer and Organ Hoarder were the best commons.
Very rigged game should be given an award. 😁
No green cards. Sadface.
I’m confused… does magic arena just have a crappy card pool? I’ve never played arena but I play mtgo almost every day and almost none of these cards would be played in mtgo pauper…
This video is about draft, not pauper
@@benana2222 I’m an idiot… it clearly says limited in the title. woops. still outside of organ grinder and inspiring overseer I don’t see the incredible value…
@@benwierchowski3496 I think a lot of these are contextual and don’t fully make sense outside of the format or even the deck they were best in. From what I know of these commons that I played the format of, they felt as crazy as their winrates imply
Im all for inclusivity. But do you know why baby blue and baby pink were deliberately chosen for that flag? Maybe you should look into it and use the traditional LGBTQ flag colors instead
I'm genuinely curious why you feel this way....
@@ohno8569 I think it's important that if people support LGBTQ they know the symbolism in the flags. Most people don't know what the pink and blue are about, and they might not feel comfortable with something outright targeting children and the implications that may have. I'm just asking for people to be a bit more informed of their choices. Cheers.
@@timmyg316 kinda figured you'd be one of those people....if your worried about pedos, go protest the catholic church, the boy scouts, or the YMCA. Have fun being an npc. I hope you get over being scared of your own shadow. Cheers.
How is that targeting children? "pink, white, and blue stripes in reference to the Trans Pride flag"
Supports trans people... just like the whole flag supports people to be free to be who they are without being prosecuted. Seems reasonable to me
@@timmyg316how is the trans flag targeting children?
what a terrible shirt, lol wow, pander