Eldrazi Winter vs 12 Post | Grand Finals - Quest for the Best Modern Deck Ever
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2023
- What was the best Modern deck ever? We made our community vote for one deck to represent each year since 2011, played four rounds of Swiss, and now we bring you each match of the Top 8. Carl is playing Thoralf and either Small Eldrazi or Big Eldrazi could be crowned The Best Deck Ever
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wait there are only 11 posts?
The list only runs 3 glimmer posts interestingly enough!
12 post won the tournament tho it has a massive flavor fail!
@@Olivia_Spring Wait, what? We've been lied to! The most powerful Modern deck of all time is 11-post!!!
@@Olivia_Spring the 12th post was in our hearts all along
This series brought me so much joy. Can't explain how I can be nostalgic for years I didn't even play in. I'd watch another 18 of these series happily.
@Olivia__Winter yes haha! We tried to pick the most optimized list of every deck. 12 post started by playing the full 12 but eventually realized you did not need all 4 glimmerpost. So it's 11 post on paper, but 12 post in our hearts 🔥
Taking infinite extra turns with Emrakul is an amazing way to win a tournament
At 1 life, no less
So many noodles.
sorry, back to magic after a long while. Why/ how is the Emrakul leaving the battlefield at that point?
@@timellinslegend rule
@@timellins The way the legend rule works now is that when one comes in, you chose whether it or the existing one dies, which in this case created the loop.
Carl forgets to cherish his last draw step and proceeds to take infinite turns to get more draw steps. fantastic series, well done
Huge credit to Carl. Piloting the deck pretty much flawless and all the decisions made by thinking about chances of possible game states, perfect scapeshift choices and such really gave him the edge of surviving the eldrazi winter. xD
Amazing. You couldn't have scripted a better ending. What a bold decision by Carl to skip on the life and go straight for the big land value.
As much as I wanted my deck to win, that ending was ridiculously fun
Agreed! So much fun to see the loop!
He got lucky none of the decks had damping sphere xD
@@saedbcruzreyes6064 Actually a few of them DID!
A few had blood moon in play but somehow he was able to top deck perfectly
Especially because Carl only had 1 life left 🤣
Super close game 👍
🎉🎉🎉 COME ON 12-POST TAKE IT HOME 🎉🎉🎉
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@MyNameIsAlph 'translate to English' (t): create 20 'O's
Winning with 1 life left... on game 5... insane... this is why I love Magic
That's just an efficient use of resources there.
You know, in the leadup to this I was wondering how much scarier all of the decks that participated would have been if we got to see them play with modern upgrades.
Twelve-post went and showed me it didn't even need that while making me even more terrified of what it would have been if it was still here today.
Absolutely adored the series, guys! Thanks for making this!
Can’t believe the Eldrazi deck won
Edit: the Infinite Emrakul combo is NOT something I, nor Thoralf, and probably not even Carl was expecting. That’s the PERFECT way to end this series
Technically it's a bug, not a feature of the deck: the legend rule was different back in 2011 so both Emrakul would have gone to the graveyard.
Although thinking about it more... he still would have been able to grab an Emrakul each turn so really the only change would be that he can only attack every other turn with it
@@jumpanamaYeah it was still infinite turns, so eventually the loop would draw into more threats
@@Jack-uh2db Exactly. It still worked in 2011, it was just a little different. Functionally it's still infinite turns and attacks with Emmy.
Dude, uncool. You spoiled the entire thing.
Eldrazi didn’t win though?
love this series and really appreciate the way you visually track the game state with the little text bubbles and showing the stack in a similar way Arena does, really helps keep everything clear and concise. Wish the actual pro-tour coverage did this.
To be fair, doing it in a more live vs. heavily edited pre-recorded session, would be much more difficult. Still possible - and I think it would help out their coverage significantly - but quite a lot of work.
Yes if this was done live, it would require a team of about 10 people to manage every aspect of the HUD. We get to record these first so it's just me, a computer, and endless coffee refills 😅
@@CardmarketMagic do you get to expense fancy coffee?
@@CardmarketMagiclove you Carl ❤
@@petermoglia we get free coffee, I think it's costing cardmarket as much as my salary 😅
That was the most unexpected ending I’ve ever seen. This game can do some incredible things.
The finals ending with a gutsy play enabling the silliest loop I've ever seen is the perfect conclusion for a Cardmarket series. GGs to all for an incredible tournament, and shoutout to Karl for the editing magic!
Thank you :) I'm particularly happy with how this one went
Edit: also fun editing fact! We had to film that last game a second time. Because the first time I only won because thoralf made only one eldrazi scion with his drowner of hope. Winning me the game. We saw the misplay and decided to reshoot the last game 2 weeks later. Which is why our hair is longer 😅 and it was so great because then I got to win with that emrakul loop 🥳
Carl piloted that last turn so well!
I was rooting for 12-post so hard, I was on the edge of my seat for the whole match, this was INCREDIBLE, what a fitting conclusion, and as always you're SO entertaining and you have beaming personalities. The plays were excellent, loved the explanations of the lines, awesome games, awesome series, thank you so much!
I'm so happy you enjoyed it! I hope it was as fun to watch as it was for us to play :D
That infinite Emrakul combo was absolutely hilarious. No wonder the deck is so powerful
this has been one of the most entertating series I have seen in a while... obviously rooting for 12post the whole series
After the great win against scam, to win with ONE life was so amazing on the FINAL game.
I believe 12post was banned after the very first modern tournament
They cared more about the integrity of their new format than selling cards, thats why Eldrazi wasnt banned straigh away, most of their cards were from the newest set, and history repeats itself nowadays with The one ring, that will only get banned just before they print the even more powerfull infinity gauntlet.
Post and Green Sun's I believe were banned after PT Philly
@@RoyInverse Are you talking about The One Ring that is only being played in Tron? Not a single other deck actually plays the card because it just kinda sucks to play without actual synergies. But I guess a card is banworthy when a Tier 2 deck plays it.
@@sugar5374 Also Omnath, UB Control, Urza, Scapeshift, Cabal Coffers, Amulet Titan...
The One Ring isn’t even the most problematic card in modern right now. Grief and Fury need to get the axe, but won’t because they are still in print and making WotC money.
rooting for the one with the eldrazi!
Big eldrazi or baby eldrazi?
I love my squiggly bois
@@darkrexkigntstone8773 yes
Clearly eldrazi are the best cards in modern
And the one with the Eldrazi won!!
Absolutely excellent gameplay. Playing to your outs to perfection. I don't think I have ever watched a game of magic on RUclips and been more impressed with the skill of the pilots. Bravo.
Never have I ever been this happy to see Emerkul resolve. Excellent match
I think 12-post was the only deck from before my time, so it was really cool to see how busted it was. I've seen the decklist before, but seeing it in action, its far stronger than I've imagined. I'd love to see Pauper or Legacy next
Not sure how legacy would work since Delver has been the best deck for over a decade, with the exception of some short lived competition that got banned. Miracles was the last time a non-Delver deck was best.
Went back and watched the entire Best Deck Ever Standard version AGAIN while waiting for this - those grand finals were absolutely incredibly. Can't wait to see how this tops them!
What a joy it was to see Carl realize they had infinite Emrakuls/Turns, oh!!
Between impressive plays like Thoralf's bluffing and Carl's calculated searching gambles (both in this match and against Scam), both players really did both great decks justice.
Didn't even know what 12 post was before this series, but I rooted for it from the beginning and happy it won!
Wow. What a game. Really happy with who won. So much for mh2 being overpowered. The winner faced a really tough path to there as well. Also, I did not expect to see an infinite combo in this, good job on finding that one in the game. I would not have seen it and not have thought about using an opponent’s land like that
mh2 IS overpowered. because in the real world, 12 post is not legal and almost all the top decks are based on mh2 cards ;)
@@MrPiotrVMH2 isn’t an overpowered set though.
It was a set with strong answers but MH1 was the stronger of the two.
@@ZakanaHachihaCBCthe problem is that the most powerful mh2 cards right now are the entire cycle of elementals which have all seen play
@@demiurge2501 Yeah, but MH2 was still a pretty underpowered set compared to MH1 and even the sets released around it.
It was a good set that provided answers the now caught up to the threats.
@@ZakanaHachihaCBCwhat r u on modern horizons 2 is way more busted the MH1 the only really busted thing in MH1 was hogaak other then that it was way better balanced then MH2. All of the most played cards in modern are from modern horizons 2. 6/10 of the most played creatures in modern r from MH2. So how is it not a completely busted set. And on the lines of it fixing modern by adding more answers the most played no creature spell from MH2 is prismatic ending which only shows up in 10% of decks. While force of negation and force of vigor from MH1 show up in way more decks.
What a finale!!!! Not only was it an intense best-of-5, but the last few plays were so completely over-the-top that it truly showed the power of that deck!
Crazy how decks that were made so many years apart don’t really have any sideboard plans for the other deck 😂
That really makes sense, honestly. Sideboards of a deck were made for the year they were made for, so....
Didn't know you played magic as well! I love your DBD videos!
That was the most genuinely "awesome" endings to what is probably the best paper Magic series on RUclips. Thanks for the incredible games!
I'm really happy you enjoyed it :) I hope you had as much fun as we had
The fact that the whole tournament ended with infinite spaghettis is absolutely incredible.
I've never seen a more cinematic set in my life, and what an ending! Thank you so much for this series Cardmarket, it was a treat from start to finish
I'm really happy you enjoyed this series :) we had so much fun making it
This was INSANE. I was rooting for 12 post and this clutch as the end was just beautiful. I didn't know this deck before this serie but I fell in love with it. Every game Carls plays a new combo, and it's so funny to see Thoralf falling apart :D Thank you for all your content ❤
Here we go, the best of the best is apon us. And its a 35 minute video this time! Glad its not a wash
That's what I'm talkin about! Down to the wire and even getting to see the rare ultimate play pattern 12-post by looping Emrakul? What a fantastic series! Great job guys. Happy to see my baby from back in the day take home the gold.
The comeback from 1 hp with the infinite loop. Couldn't have been done better even if it was scripted.
Beautiful.
How can I hit like more often??? What an incredible ending to an amazing series. Infinite Emrakul is the stuff of nightmares and dreams, and I'm so happy to have witnessed it! Thank you Cardmarket!
I'm so happy you enjoyed it :D I'm really proud of this series and my friends played so well! I hope you enjoy our next one as well
Waiting with baited breath for the next series, and any other video really!
I really like the flavor of the Emrakul loop, Emrakul infinitely shows up in the same place and then disappears, as if it's some time-defying causal loop of the same Emrakul arriving, assisting its past self and then departing to travel back in time and arrive again, just a few instants earlier, so that it can cooperate with its future self. It's this very powerful, very Eldrazi type of thing for this creature to do.
That ending was everything I'd ever hoped for and so much more. VERY fun series! Love to see that deck in particular beat up the field!
That prop crown sure gets a lot of value, being reused far more than expected. :D
Infinite prop crown loop combo.
That ending is one of the best things I have ever seen. 12 post looks like such a fun deck!
What a finale, omg! Great series, I had such a blast watching this one.
if I didn't know any better I'd think you guys were stacking decks for content. what an insane series, even for you guys. excited to see how you top it because you somehow always do!
Spoilers:
Please, who would stack 3 Reality Smashers? And we see them shuffle. But I know what you mean. There is however, a perfectly reasonable explanation. 12-post got banned after the FIRST tournament in the format. Nobody remembered it even being a thing. Oldest deck in the series and the one with the shortest lifespan. Eldrazi Winter on the other hand is legendary. It took over the game for a season. I wouldn't say that EVERYONE is familiar with the composition of the deck, but everyone on this channel is. So, Carl had the edge. He knew what was in Thoralf's deck and sideboard, he knew what he had to play around. Thoralf didn't know Carl had a second Emrakul, or that his deck could go infinite. I'm surprised it won Rakdos Scam.
It's funny because after shooting the finals, we were afraid that it was kind of boring 😅 but there is nothing music and snappy editing can't fix! Oh, and emrakul. She makes everything more exciting :)
This was amazing! What a match! Loved the change to Best of 5 for the Finals too.
Absolutely Epic finale! Didn't know much about 12Post until this series. Watching it go off against the more modern "efficient" modern decks has been a wild ride.
I think I predicted this deck to win right from the community poll. It seemed like the most broken thing you could do at the time and the video proved this. Excellent series, the editing was superb and as usual you guys are a lot of fun with the banter and playful comments. Thanks for making this, hopefully the next best deck of all time series won't be too far off ;)
Carl, that was an absolutely awesome line. What a great series.
Thank you :) what you don't see is that it took me 10 minutes to come up with 😅 but I am very proud of it
I’ve rewatched this so many times. The games are so good and it feels like I’m watching a legit world tournament final. I love Hogaak, but both of these decks are just so fun to watch since they can pop off at any moment. Kudos to the channel for a killer tournament and incredible games.
Congrats to the winner! What a series. Really glad you guys took my advice of doing a BO5 for the grand championship, now there can be no doubt!
I like this series. Have you guys ever considered doing draft/limited videos? I'm curious about how you guys would evaluate card picks.
I second this ! A draft would be a great idea !
We tried doing draft videos but they bombed. As limited is our favourite way to play, we talk about it a lot. We're working on a way to make limited videos worth watching :)
@@CardmarketMagicA sealed video - or even a series! - could be fun? Might be neat to present it as a for beginners thing, maybe starting with Prerelease kits and adding a couple packs each run? Show folks how to evaluate cards and work with what you have?
@@CardmarketMagicI've always thought that it'd be cool to see a series where people do sealed/limited "snapshots" from past standards that were regarded as being some of the best of all time...like original innistrad or original zendikar etc... if you guys did something like that I'd totally watch it!!!
What an epic match! Well played by both players and that last game was a great way to finish the series. Looking forward to more from you guys.
That was amazing!!! Such a good ending and it was awesome to watch these powerhouse decks duke it out across multiple matches. I'm really enjoying these matches and appreciate all the time & effort that goes into making these episodes.
Truly INCREDIBLE! Thanks so much for making and sharing this, the series has been a BLAST to watch. I hope you have a great rest of your day
Have a wonderful day, you as well :) thank you for your kind comment
Great series! I absolutely love these, idk what format you'd do next but I welcome it.
legacy
pauper!!
Legacy would be nuts
Welp, this series just proved Cloudpost isn't going to be unbanned in Modern for some time
That was an amazing ending! (Spl below)
I love that it went to 5 as both decks are very powerful and pretty evenly matched it seems, but the loop to win was nuts!
Kudos to the editing team. You got me back into MTG. And your clear edits that clarify what cards do are whatmakes MTG watchable for an outsider. I've tried other channels and it's impossible. You are the best MTG entertainment channel.
Edge of the seat worthy finale. What an ending 😮
LMAO thoralf at 18:16 when carl is not looking
I can't possibly overstate how much I appreciate you having players that are better than me playing and sharing their thoughts. When I see a line to win and the creator doesn't even mention it, it drives me crazy. When you pull a line to win I never even considered, it's mind-blowingly good. Great series, great video!
I need the music from this video, especially the song that was playing while Karl clutched the win with looping Emrakul’s! That just perfectly set the mood, and really helped everyone know that THIS was the moment everyone was waiting for!
Yes, we need another tourney like this. Also, yeah, 12post is absurd! It doesn't shock me that it won. What an ending!
Something I've noticed is that the more powerful the decks are, the more strong going first gets. Going first is just so strong, and it's lame if the winner of the game is always just the winner of the dice roll. That's why power creep is scary boys
Yep, welcome to the new Yu-Gi-Oh in which going first gives you a 70%+ chance to win the match
yeap, that is one of the problems with everything getting faster and more powerful all the time.
Mulligan rework???
modern was known for being a very uninteractive format for years. it wasn't until fatal push and then later modern horizons got printed that there was enough cheap interaction to slow things down
Modern doesn't have the checks and balances that legacy does. Going first matters much less in that format. Pretty much the reason I play legacy as opposed to anything else
What a wonderful series! I've been anticipating these videos each week. There were so many memorable moments like Thoralf's amazing topdecks and Carl's skillful sequencing. Such a brilliant conclusion. I'm sad that it's over, but happy that it happened. I can't wait for the next one. Thank you guys so much.
I'm so happy you enjoyed it :) it was SO MUCH FUN to make these and play with old decks that hold so much nostalgia for us! Hopefully you enjoy the next series as well
I think that was one my favorite matches y’all have had so far! Excellent plays by both of you
Whaaat! For some reason I was looking forward for this on Friday.
I don't know how I never realized you guys are posting tue and thu lol
The best series ever had an amazing end.
Good job as always guys.
Already hyped for your next project.
YEEEEES. IT WON !!!! I thought the semi finals was the dopest with Carl's last draw. But this final ? IT'S THE BEST modern match i ever watched. (As a Yugioh player, i love when a magic deck perform those combos).
The ending of this episode had me cheering a little! This was an awesome series- you guys are doing great work
(also cackling at "I think I know how Louis XIV felt...")
Amazing series
I’ve been watching you guys from the beginning! love what y’all are doing, please keep making more series like this! This is my favorite content on RUclips.
We will make more series like this for sure :) it's one of our favourite content to make! I hope you enjoy watching it as much as we enjoy making it
i couldn´t have imagined a better ending to the series! The big Eldrazi rules the magic world!
That was a great ending for a great series. I had never seen 12-post before this series, but I absolutely fell in love with it. That loop at the end 🤤
I would really love to see a Quest for the Best Pioneer Deck Ever next, but the format would have to change a little since it's only been around for 4 years lol
We have it on our list. Pioneer isn't old enough yet. We thought of combining it with modern but after looking at the modern lists, we realized it wasn't fair 😅
That Game 1 - that's the power of 12 Post, a turn 3 Emerakul!
That's why I was lol'ing at the people who didn't think 12-Post was strong in the comments before this video. It's almost an exact copy of the Legacy version except it doesn't have Dark Depths, Crop Rotation, or Maze of Ith.
this series was the best thing I've seen on youtube in a long time. I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. Well done!
Thank you :) I'm thrilled you enjoyed it!
This is one the best matches so far. Had me at the edge of my seat just after game 1. Congrats on the win Carl.
I respect this comments section for not spoiling the winner
Amazing series with an amazing final showdown with an amazing final turn! 🎉❤
Ralph! I'm happy you enjoyed it! You get a fun exclusive behind the scenes fact :) we actually filmed the final twice! The first time, I won but when editing the video, I realized I only won because thoralf forgot to make a second scion with drowner of hope. Meaning a few turns later, he could have used that second scion to tap down my emrakul and win the game. We decided to reshoot because it tainted the tournament and that game was boring anyway and the got this amazing game with looping emrakuls and we are so happy with the outcome :)
Poetic justice to have a final turn of the tournament that explosive and combotastic! The best deck won! Thanks for a great series.
Thanks a lot for this series, been really fun to watch it all!
Having played Cloudpost myself, it is an INSANE deck
Oh yeah! Here it is! The Grand Finale!!!
I guess there's a good reason half of the core cards in 12-Post are banned lmao!
Incredible!
Love a bit of 1v1 and this series was powerful magic played powerfully! Great work all!
18:16 LMAO Thoralf 😂
I’ve officially fallen in love with this channel. Great videos guys!
The infinite loop was something I did not expect.
Spoiler for the result:
What a perfect ending, a 22* mana per turn infinite turn loop
Looping the biggest eldrazi ever printed in an eldrazi mirror
Always sad when the end of the video is the first comment 😢
@@jshavluk4342 - I dont scroll down or check the run time for this reason.
@@jshavluk4342 fair, I didn’t put a warning because I didn’t expect it to be a high up comment. Fixed
@@DismemberTheAlamo if you’re on mobile it shows the top/top few comments automatically so you have to actively avoid seeing it. It’s a totally fair thing to have an issue with.
"I don't like your tone of voice" lololol that floored me.
Eldrazi are officially the greatest of magics beings
I want 12Post to win because it would be cool to see the first deck to hold its own
The best deck of all time deserves the best video of all time, and yall delivered! Can't wait until the next one!
I remember my first SCG Open in Louisville KY in the winter of 2016. I brought my brand new Affinity deck, after studying the meta relentlessly for 6 months, memorizing all of the best lines of play for every single deck in the format. I had been a regular at my LGS for modern night, entering every week and practicing my Affinity deck constantly, learning how to pilot it. Then, while on vacation, the weekend before the SCG event, I read about the new Eldrazi decks that people were theorycrafting, and how powerful they were in testing. I was undaunted, because I had my ultra powerful Affinity deck, the only deck that could take games off Eldrazi reliably. Plus, this deck was barely a week old. Everyone is going to be playing the old staples. It's not like they could all have the new Eldrazi deck.... At the end of day one, I had lost all but one game. Eldrazi decks took me down on the only games where I had good hands, being all but one of my matches. The game I won was against RDW.
I looked at the top 8 after the weekend was over, and 6 of the 8 were Eldrazi. They dominated modern until the ban hit them, and beat me down harder than I had ever known. This, followed by a move out of town, and then a ban to my Mox Opals, made the Eldrazi Winter my last memory of modern. I was one of the early casualties.
These days I live a quiet life of peace, far away from the drama of 60 card formats, living in a nice cottage with my husband and two dogs, where we play commander with friends and family. Occasionally they ask me about my time as a competitive MTG player, and I smile and lie and tell them all about the format, and how I had a good run at it, and I tell them about the glory days of modern circa 2012-2014, but I leave out the tale of my fall. When I close my eyes at night, I can still see the Reality Smashers and Thought-knot Seers being turned sideways, bashing their way through my tiny robots, as my pride and ego shattered. I still feel the biting chill of the Eldrazi Winter.
Btw I said this on community post, but bonus episode would be really cool. Making a custom deck that's targeted at beating the winner deck and seeing how it would go. Either 1 or 3 decks and each much being different deck
the winner of the tournament is a little to easy to metagame against unfortunately. not much it’s going to do against a deck full of stone rain effects
@@sohpeeah3131 Hmm well that's true :/
It would be too easy to metagame against one deck.
Maybe 3 different decks with different approaches would be fun. 1 round per deck, so land destruction is one and other two need to get more creative.
@@cryptorcd9352 the second one is easily blood moon monored.)
Game1: If you draw a cloudpost can't you just get a Vesuva for the 4th cloudpost when you scapeshift?
No, for the same reason that getting phantasmal image + another creature off of a collected company doesn’t work if your board is empty. Vesuva can’t enter as a copy of something that is entering at the same time as it.
@@faseel4392 makes sense. Figured this would be the reason but wasn't sure. And since if you choose not to sacrifice the cloudpost in play you won't get to untap it with the ammy that doesn't work either. Thanks
That was seriously the best finale to an already awesome series!!! So excited for more of these in the future!
What a fantastic series. The editing and music really make this feel special. Thanks for the wonderful, entertaining, content guys.
Cant believe the mana cheating Eldrazi deck won against the mana cheating Eldrazi deck
This was an incredible end to the series. Absolutely loved everything about it, it was a perfect finisher.
What a crazy run for 12 Post!! Great series, you guys always look like you're having so much fun playing Magic! Thank you for this idea and tournament!!
such an amazing mini series. So awesome getting to see all these decks that existed before i started playing magic
12 post is so strong that back when i played this deck among friends in 2010-2011, it became an Archenemy game of 1 vs 3 right away and I would still win often